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Hi

Since I'm attending this Igov session here at the ietf 88 I take an =
opportunity to test your newly set up email box. :-)

The ITU has launched what they call a "consultation" about the Role of =
Governments in MSM - advertised but it's really a web page with =
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An opportunity to ignore - however- a couple of talk about limiting the =
role of governments. lol

http://ideas.itu.int/category/1424

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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi<div><br></div><div>Since I'm attending this Igov session here at the ietf 88 I take an opportunity to test your newly set up email box. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>The ITU has launched what they call a "consultation" about the Role of Governments in MSM - advertised but it's&nbsp;really a web page with comments.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>An opportunity to ignore - however- a couple of&nbsp;talk about limiting the role of governments. lol</div><div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://ideas.itu.int/category/1424">http://ideas.itu.int/category/1424</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Desiree</div><div>--</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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Well, the social-media-digg style is not bad at all.

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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Desiree <desiree@relax.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Since I'm attending this Igov session here at the ietf 88 I take an
> opportunity to test your newly set up email box. :-)
>
> The ITU has launched what they call a "consultation" about the Role of
> Governments in MSM - advertised but it's really a web page with comments.
>
> An opportunity to ignore - however- a couple of talk about limiting the
> role of governments. lol
>
> http://ideas.itu.int/category/1424
>
> Cheers
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><=
br></div><div>Since I&#39;m attending this Igov session here at the ietf 88=
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<div><br></div><div>The ITU has launched what they call a &quot;consultatio=
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Desiree,

Something to keep in mind concerning this consultation...

This is actually a Secretary General consultation, not an ITU consultation.=
  At ITU Council, the Secretary General asked for the ITU to hold a consult=
ation on this issue that would feed into the Council Working Group on Inter=
national Internet-related Public Policy.  The ITU Council declined to call =
for a consultation, but it was stated that the Secretary General could hold=
 his own consultation and submit the results to the CWG under his name.  Th=
is will be submitted as an information document to the meeting and there is=
 no requirement for the meeting to consider or act on an information docume=
nt.=20

This is different from the consultations being held by the CWG-Internet as =
described in its Terms of Reference.

It isn't clear that the result of the two different consultations will be t=
reated very differently at the meeting itself, but they are two different p=
rocesses.

Chip

>=20
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Desiree <desiree@relax.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
>=20
> Since I'm attending this Igov session here at the ietf 88 I take an oppor=
tunity to test your newly set up email box. :-)
>=20
> The ITU has launched what they call a "consultation" about the Role of Go=
vernments in MSM - advertised but it's really a web page with comments.=20
>=20
> An opportunity to ignore - however- a couple of talk about limiting the r=
ole of governments. lol
>=20
> http://ideas.itu.int/category/1424
>=20
> Cheers
> Desiree
> --



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except that the first time I try to sign in, I get:

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One of the big challenges in managing lots of volunteers is that everyone
wants to do the tasks that they know about which are typically the tasks
that are already being done.

A role that many governments could usefully contribute is to provide
reference cryptographic services analogous to the reference time services
that many weights and measures organizations already provide (e.g.
Greenwich observatory, NIST, etc.).

There is a need for trustworthy timestamps in a wide number of protocols.
While commercial notaries can provide this service at a technical level,
the legal validity of such services might be expensive to prove in court.
Having a national reference assures users that there is some level of
government recognition of the status of the service.

A national cryptographic bureau would play an analogous role to the weights
and measures bureaus and provide reference services against which
commercial providers would benchmark their offerings from time to time. It
would not be necessary for every country to operate such a bureau just as
it is not necessary for every country to provide reference weights and
measures. As with weights and measures based on physical objects there is a
value to having multiple reference labs but unlike with physical objects
there is no penalty for having a large number.

As with weights and measures, the primary consumers of the services would
be commercial providers who would in turn provide services to other
businesses. Governments could of course operate a direct service but that
would entail the usual commercial risks, overheads and constraints.


I don't see CA certificate services as being among the services that would
be provided except where the government is already providing those
functions. Where governments recognize PKI, they recognize particular CAs
for particular purposes and with specific validation requirements. These
are not commodity services suitable for inter-government standardization.
The services I see as being useful are timestamp authority services, and
pre-committed unpredictable sources. These are or at least can be provided
on a commodity basis.


A timestamp authority produces a chain of hash values where each successive
hash value is computed from the previous hash value and inputs from one or
more external sources. For a national notary the sources would be
commercial notaries (and potentially peer national notaries).

A pre-committed unpredictable source is formed by choosing a random seed s
and a hash function H(x) and computing H(...H(s)) to a very large power.
The provider releases H^n(s) at the start, H^n-1(s) on the next 'tick',
H^n-2(s) on the next and so on.

All the outputs of the authority are digitally signed.


Combining the two functions allows a notarized document to be fixed in time
with near absolute certainty. This is of great benefit in fixing evidence
in actual and potential lawsuits. For example, data recorded on digital
cameras, etc. may be fixed and the time at which it is fixed put beyond
reasonable doubt. Contracts, bids, trades may be fixed with recognized
legal authority.

The last time serious consideration was given to these possibilities was
the mid 1990s when many governments passed forward thinking legislation to
support digital signatures, electronic notaries, etc. Unfortunately much of
this thought proved to be perhaps a little too forward thinking. Just as it
took business 40 years to understand the full potential of containerized
transport, business is only just beginning to realize the full potential of
the Web.





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<div dir=3D"ltr">One of the big challenges in managing lots of volunteers i=
s that everyone wants to do the tasks that they know about which are typica=
lly the tasks that are already being done.<div><br></div><div>A role that m=
any governments could usefully contribute is to provide reference cryptogra=
phic services analogous to the reference time services that many weights an=
d measures organizations already provide (e.g. Greenwich observatory, NIST,=
 etc.).</div>
<div><br></div><div>There is a need for trustworthy timestamps in a wide nu=
mber of protocols. While commercial notaries can provide this service at a =
technical level, the legal validity of such services might be expensive to =
prove in court. Having a national reference assures users that there is som=
e level of government recognition of the status of the service.</div>
<div><br></div><div>A national cryptographic bureau would play an analogous=
 role to the weights and measures bureaus and provide reference services ag=
ainst which commercial providers would benchmark their offerings from time =
to time. It would not be necessary for every country to operate such a bure=
au just as it is not necessary for every country to provide reference weigh=
ts and measures. As with weights and measures based on physical objects the=
re is a value to having multiple reference labs but unlike with physical ob=
jects there is no penalty for having a large number.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As with weights and measures, the primary consumers of =
the services would be commercial providers who would in turn provide servic=
es to other businesses. Governments could of course operate a direct servic=
e but that would entail the usual commercial risks, overheads and constrain=
ts.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t see CA certificate services =
as being among the services that would be provided except where the governm=
ent is already providing those functions. Where governments recognize PKI, =
they recognize particular CAs for particular purposes and with specific val=
idation requirements. These are not commodity services suitable for inter-g=
overnment standardization. The services I see as being useful are timestamp=
 authority services, and pre-committed unpredictable sources. These are or =
at least can be provided on a commodity basis.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A timestamp authority produces a chain o=
f hash values where each successive hash value is computed from the previou=
s hash value and inputs from one or more external sources. For a national n=
otary the sources would be commercial notaries (and potentially peer nation=
al notaries).</div>
<div><br></div><div>A pre-committed=A0unpredictable=A0source is formed by c=
hoosing a random seed s and a hash function H(x) and computing H(...H(s)) t=
o a very large power. The provider releases H^n(s) at the start, H^n-1(s) o=
n the next &#39;tick&#39;, H^n-2(s) on the next and so on.</div>
<div><br></div><div>All the outputs of the authority are digitally signed.<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Combining the two functions allows =
a notarized document to be fixed in time with near absolute certainty. This=
 is of great benefit in fixing evidence in actual and potential lawsuits. F=
or example, data recorded on digital cameras, etc. may be fixed and the tim=
e at which it is fixed put beyond reasonable doubt. Contracts, bids, trades=
 may be fixed with recognized legal authority.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The last time serious consideration was given to these =
possibilities was the mid 1990s when many governments passed forward thinki=
ng legislation to support digital signatures, electronic notaries, etc. Unf=
ortunately much of this thought proved to be perhaps a little too forward t=
hinking. Just as it took business 40 years to understand the full potential=
 of containerized transport, business is only just beginning to realize the=
 full potential of the Web.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><br></div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker.com/">http://hal=
lambaker.com/</a><br>
</div></div></div>

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FYI. Marc.

=
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-17nov13-en.htm

Resolution Re: Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance
RATIONALE FOR RESOLUTIONS 2013.11.17.01 =96 2013.11.17.02
=20
Resolution Re: Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance
Whereas, on 28 September 2013, the ICANN Board authorized the CEO to, =
among other things, "work with other key organizations and leaders to =
establish a coalition towards the formation of a movement or initiative" =
("Coalition"), in order to address increasing concerns regarding the =
effectiveness of a "global, open, multi-stakeholder Internet governance =
system."

Whereas, the Board considered that without strengthening a global, =
coherent approach to Internet governance, ongoing and emerging issues =
will not be properly addressed in a collective, collaborative way, which =
may inadvertently affect the operational unity of the Internet, =
consistent with ICANN's mandate.

Whereas, on 28 September 2013, the Board further resolved that ". . . =
should the CEO recommend an additional longer term strategy based on =
Coalition results, the CEO shall present such a plan of action, =
including any additional financial resources required, for further =
consideration by the Board."

Whereas, the CEO has executed the mandate of the 28 September 2013 Board =
resolution and has helped facilitate a number of activities, including: =
(i) the expansion and launch of a previously announced strategy panel =
now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet Governance;" (ii) =
development of and participation in the "1net initiative"; and (iii) =
encouraging the establishment of and support for a meeting on =
multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to take place =
in Brazil in April 2014.

Whereas, the CEO regularly reported to the Board as these activities =
were emerging, to which the Board provided insight, guidance, and =
support through reports at Board meetings on 23 October 2013, 8 November =
2013 and 16 November 2013.

Whereas, these three initiatives are now commencing, the CEO confirmed a =
plan for ICANN to continue participating with all other interested =
participants.

Whereas, the Board looks forward to the next stages of these initiatives =
and to the discussion and debate that has been ignited on global =
multi-stakeholder participation in Internet governance.

Whereas, ICANN is participating in these initiatives in furtherance of =
ICANN's mission and anticipates continued participation in these =
endeavors well into the future.

Whereas, the Board welcomes the collaboration with I* organizations that =
led to the Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation. =
(See =
http://www.1net.org/news/entry/montevideo-statement-on-the-future-of-inter=
net-cooperation/en).

Whereas, the Board wishes to express its appreciation for the management =
team accomplishing the objectives of the 28 September 2013 resolution, =
and the Board finds it admirable that such progress has been made in =
such a short period of time.

Resolved (2013.11.17.01), the Board hereby directs the CEO to continue =
supporting the three emerging and evolving initiatives and recognizes =
that ICANN, as part of the Internet ecosystem, is just one of the many =
participants providing resources and support to the following =
initiatives: (i) the expansion and launch of a previously announced =
strategy panel now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet =
Governance"; (ii) development and participation in the "1net =
initiative"; and (iii) encouraging the establishment of and support for =
a meeting on multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to =
take place in Brazil in April 2014.

Resolved (2013.11.17.02), the Board highly encourages all parties =
interested in the Internet ecosystem and Internet governance to =
participate in these emerging initiatives and notes the importance of an =
active and committed participation by all stakeholders.

RATIONALE FOR RESOLUTIONS 2013.11.17.01 =96 2013.11.17.02

This resolution is a continuation of the Board's 28 September 2013 =
resolution providing ICANN's President and CEO with a mandate to explore =
how ICANN could coordinate with stakeholders from across the globe to =
address the pressing issue of the future of Internet governance. In =
September, the Board directed the President and CEO to work towards the =
establishment of a coalition to start an effort to form an Internet =
cooperation agenda, and to do so in a manner consistent with ICANN's =
mission. That initial work has been completed, and the Board thanks the =
President and CEO for his leadership in this regard and the rest of the =
management team for all of their efforts.

Since the 28 September resolution, a substantial amount of coordination =
work has been achieved, and the discussions among stakeholders around =
the world have been ignited. In less than two months, the following =
initiatives have formed: (i) the expansion and launch of a previously =
announced panel now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet =
Governance;" (ii) development and participation in the 1net initiative; =
and (iii) encouraging the establishment of and support for a meeting on =
multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to take place =
in Brazil in April 2014.

To remain accountable to ICANN's mission and community, the Board =
recognizes that the future of the work of this Coalition and in these =
initiatives is not ICANN's; while ICANN has important contributions to =
make to the work of the Coalition, the necessary work now requires all =
other parties interested in the Internet ecosystem to participate in =
this work. This Coalition requires multi-stakeholder involvement and =
support.

Encouraging further coordination among all Internet stakeholders does =
not have any immediate impact on the security, stability or resiliency =
of the DNS, though the outcomes of these initiatives are likely to have =
positive benefits on the coordination of DNS stability and security =
issues in the future.

This is an Organizational Administrative Function for which public =
comment is not required.

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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>FYI. =
Marc.</div><div><br></div><a =
href=3D"http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-17nov13=
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3-en.htm</a><div><br></div><div><ol style=3D"margin: 10px 35px 18px =
20px; padding-left: 15px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Arial, =
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5px;"><strong><a =
href=3D"http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-17nov13=
-en.htm#1" style=3D"outline: none; color: rgb(239, 103, 62); =
text-decoration: none;">Resolution Re: Multi-Stakeholder Internet =
Governance</a></strong><ul class=3D"none" style=3D"margin: 10px 35px =
18px 20px; padding-left: 15px; list-style-type: none;"><li =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 5px;"><a =
href=3D"http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-17nov13=
-en.htm#1.rationale" style=3D"outline: none; color: rgb(239, 103, 62); =
text-decoration: none;">RATIONALE FOR RESOLUTIONS 2013.11.17.01 =96 =
2013.11.17.02</a></li></ul></li></ol><div style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 21px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Arial, =
Heveltica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, =
255, 0.6);">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><ol =
style=3D"margin: 10px 35px 18px 20px; padding-left: 15px; color: rgb(85, =
85, 85); font-family: Arial, Heveltica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; =
line-height: 21px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6);"><li =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 5px;"><h3 style=3D"font-family: 'Klavika =
Medium'; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 8px;"><a name=3D"1" id=3D"1" =
style=3D"outline: none; color: rgb(86, 159, 204);"></a>Resolution Re: =
Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance</h3><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, on 28 September 2013, the&nbsp;<abbr =
title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" =
style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>&nbsp;Board authorized the CEO to, among other =
things, "work with other key organizations and leaders to establish a =
coalition towards the formation of a movement or initiative" =
("Coalition"), in order to address increasing concerns regarding the =
effectiveness of a "global, open, multi-stakeholder Internet governance =
system."</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: =
1.45em;">Whereas, the Board considered that without strengthening a =
global, coherent approach to Internet governance, ongoing and emerging =
issues will not be properly addressed in a collective, collaborative =
way, which may inadvertently affect the operational unity of the =
Internet, consistent with&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for =
Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; =
border-bottom-style: dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s mandate.</p><p =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, on 28 =
September 2013, the Board further resolved that ". . . should the CEO =
recommend an additional longer term strategy based on Coalition results, =
the CEO shall present such a plan of action, including any additional =
financial resources required, for further consideration by the =
Board."</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: =
1.45em;">Whereas, the CEO has executed the mandate of the 28 September =
2013 Board resolution and has helped facilitate a number of activities, =
including: (i) the expansion and launch of a previously announced =
strategy panel now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet =
Governance;" (ii) development of and participation in the "1net =
initiative"; and (iii) encouraging the establishment of and support for =
a meeting on multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to =
take place in Brazil in April 2014.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, the CEO regularly reported to the Board =
as these activities were emerging, to which the Board provided insight, =
guidance, and support through reports at Board meetings on 23 October =
2013, 8 November 2013 and 16 November 2013.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, these three initiatives are now =
commencing, the CEO confirmed a plan for&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet =
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: =
1px; border-bottom-style: dotted;">ICANN</abbr>&nbsp;to continue =
participating with all other interested participants.</p><p =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, the Board =
looks forward to the next stages of these initiatives and to the =
discussion and debate that has been ignited on global multi-stakeholder =
participation in Internet governance.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas,&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet =
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: =
1px; border-bottom-style: dotted;">ICANN</abbr>&nbsp;is participating in =
these initiatives in furtherance of&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet =
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: =
1px; border-bottom-style: dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s mission and =
anticipates continued participation in these endeavors well into the =
future.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: =
1.45em;">Whereas, the Board welcomes the collaboration with I* =
organizations that led to the Montevideo Statement on the Future of =
Internet Cooperation. (See&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.1net.org/news/entry/montevideo-statement-on-the-future-=
of-internet-cooperation/en" style=3D"outline: none; color: rgb(239, 103, =
62); text-decoration: =
none;">http://www.1net.org/news/entry/montevideo-statement-on-the-future-o=
f-internet-cooperation/en</a>).</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 1.45em;">Whereas, the Board wishes to express its =
appreciation for the management team accomplishing the objectives of the =
28 September 2013 resolution, and the Board finds it admirable that such =
progress has been made in such a short period of time.</p><p =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Resolved =
(2013.11.17.01), the Board hereby directs the CEO to continue supporting =
the three emerging and evolving initiatives and recognizes =
that&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and =
Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>, as part of the Internet ecosystem, is just one of =
the many participants providing resources and support to the following =
initiatives: (i) the expansion and launch of a previously announced =
strategy panel now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet =
Governance"; (ii) development and participation in the "1net =
initiative"; and (iii) encouraging the establishment of and support for =
a meeting on multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to =
take place in Brazil in April 2014.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 1.45em;">Resolved (2013.11.17.02), the Board highly =
encourages all parties interested in the Internet ecosystem and Internet =
governance to participate in these emerging initiatives and notes the =
importance of an active and committed participation by all =
stakeholders.</p><h4 style=3D"font-family: 'Klavika Basic'; font-size: =
1em; margin: 15px 0px 8px;"><a name=3D"1.rationale" id=3D"1.rationale" =
style=3D"outline: none; color: rgb(239, 103, 62);"></a>RATIONALE FOR =
RESOLUTIONS 2013.11.17.01 =96 2013.11.17.02</h4><p style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">This resolution is a continuation of the =
Board's 28 September 2013 resolution providing&nbsp;<abbr =
title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" =
style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s President and CEO with a mandate to explore =
how&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and =
Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>&nbsp;could coordinate with stakeholders from =
across the globe to address the pressing issue of the future of Internet =
governance. In September, the Board directed the President and CEO to =
work towards the establishment of a coalition to start an effort to form =
an Internet cooperation agenda, and to do so in a manner consistent =
with&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and =
Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s mission. That initial work has been completed, =
and the Board thanks the President and CEO for his leadership in this =
regard and the rest of the management team for all of their =
efforts.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: 1.45em;">Since =
the 28 September resolution, a substantial amount of coordination work =
has been achieved, and the discussions among stakeholders around the =
world have been ignited. In less than two months, the following =
initiatives have formed: (i) the expansion and launch of a previously =
announced panel now entitled "Panel on the Future of Internet =
Governance;" (ii) development and participation in the 1net initiative; =
and (iii) encouraging the establishment of and support for a meeting on =
multi-stakeholder Internet governance that is now likely to take place =
in Brazil in April 2014.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 1.45em;">To remain accountable to&nbsp;<abbr =
title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" =
style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s mission and community, the Board recognizes that =
the future of the work of this Coalition and in these initiatives is =
not&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and =
Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">ICANN</abbr>'s; while&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation =
for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; =
border-bottom-style: dotted;">ICANN</abbr>&nbsp;has important =
contributions to make to the work of the Coalition, the necessary work =
now requires all other parties interested in the Internet ecosystem to =
participate in this work. This Coalition requires multi-stakeholder =
involvement and support.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; =
line-height: 1.45em;">Encouraging further coordination among all =
Internet stakeholders does not have any immediate impact on the =
security, stability or resiliency of the&nbsp;<abbr title=3D"Domain Name =
System" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: =
dotted;">DNS</abbr>, though the outcomes of these initiatives are likely =
to have positive benefits on the coordination of&nbsp;<abbr =
title=3D"Domain Name System" style=3D"border-bottom-width: 1px; =
border-bottom-style: dotted;">DNS</abbr>&nbsp;stability and security =
issues in the future.</p><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 8px; line-height: =
1.45em;">This is an Organizational Administrative Function for which =
public comment is not required.</p></li></ol><p style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
8px; line-height: 21px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: Arial, =
Heveltica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, =
255, 0.6); position: static; z-index: auto;">Published on 17 November =
2013</p></div></body></html>=

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Forwarded with permission. This looks like something of interest to this li=
st.

Ross

From: isoc-advisory-council-bounces@elists.isoc.org [mailto:isoc-advisory-c=
ouncil-bounces@elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Lynn St.Amour
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:27 PM
To: isoc-advisory-council@elists.isoc.org
Subject: [isoc-advisory-council] Internet Governance Update - Nov. 15, 2013

Dear AC members,

Please find the second of what is planned to be regular updates on key Inte=
rnet governance activities.  Future updates will be shorter.  The backgroun=
d included here is to help layout today's overall environment.

In the last month, there have been many discussions around two developments=
 that took place just prior to and during the Internet Governance Forum (IG=
F) in Bali.  One was the Montevideo Statement<http://www.internetsociety.or=
g/news/montevideo-statement-future-internet-cooperation>, which was distrib=
uted on 7 October and was well received at the IGF. The other was the unexp=
ected announcement at the IGF of an Internet Governance Summit, or High Lev=
el Meeting, to be held in Brazil in early May 2014.

I* CEO Meetings:

With respect to the Montevideo meeting and the statement that was issued af=
terwards, some background might be helpful -- these I* CEO meetings have ta=
ken place regularly for the past three years (usually twice a year, several=
 days).  They were mainly to build relations/common cause across the I* org=
anizations.   We work to understand our respective positions on key issues =
(and hopefully are aligned) or at least to minimize surprises.  The meeting=
s were not meant to be a "standing venue", but rather to build stronger rel=
ations.  The meetings are convened and chaired by ISOC, specifically, by me=
, as ISOC President & CEO, at the request of the other I* organizations.  T=
his reflects our broad Mission and the breadth of our organization and resp=
onsibilities.  Finally, the I* organizations are:  IAB, IANA functions oper=
ator, ICANN, IETF, ISOC, the 5 RIR's, and W3C.

Unlike past meetings, the I* community felt that the surveillance issues (a=
nd the reactions we were seeing affecting the Internet and users) were so s=
erious that we needed to go on record.  And, thanks to Ra=FAl Echeberria fo=
r his leadership throughout the meeting around such a statement.  As virtua=
lly all (maybe all) of the organizations had previously been on record for =
many of these points, we felt it was appropriate to go forward.

Heading to the IGF week, the I* CEO's had planned to work together to "cata=
lyze community-wide efforts towards the evolution of global multistakeholde=
r Internet cooperation" as called for in the Montevideo Statement. This too=
k on an added urgency and dimension with the unexpected announcement of the=
 Brazil meeting.

Brazil High Level Meeting

This "Brazil summit" came out of a discussion between ICANN and the Brazili=
an government and followed the Montevideo I* CEO meeting.  This announcemen=
t caused concern on the part of many of those present at the IGF for variou=
s reasons: it was seen to be potentially competing with the IGF, the role o=
f governments vs. other stakeholders was unclear, the timing prior to sever=
al important ITU and UN meetings raised concerns about its outcomes and the=
ir impact on those meetings. There was also a mistaken assumption that the =
Brazil meeting was linked to the collective I* organization's leadership as=
 an outcrop of the Montevideo statement.

In the course of the discussions at the IGF and since, what was originally =
labeled a "Summit" evolved to a "high level meeting."  Discussions are taki=
ng place with the Brazilians and a number of organizations, and the I* orga=
nizations are also involved, including ISOC.  While nothing is official, th=
e purpose of the Conference is expected to address strengthening Internet c=
ooperation by discussing high-level principles and institutional frameworks=
. This conference is not meant to produce proposals on specific Internet po=
licy issues.

Montevideo Statement and catalyzing community-wide efforts

Many of the discussions during the IGF week focused on clarifying and gaini=
ng support for some possible initiatives (and necessarily included the Braz=
il meeting), as well as gaining support from other communities including th=
e private sector, civil society and governments. These discussions also aim=
ed to clarify/advance: 1) statements about a shift in leadership away from =
the United States as a result of disclosures about surveillance and the sub=
sequent impact on the principles and reality of the open global Internet, a=
nd 2) continuing discussions about the future of Internet Governance and wh=
at was called Internet Governance gaps.

Possible Initiatives

Discussions at IGF and elsewhere seem to be coalescing around the following=
 initiatives:

1.     Gauging support for a multi-stakeholder coalition/dialogue/initiativ=
e that would help close an "Internet Governance gap"
a)     the purpose of and level of formality/structures to support this coa=
lition, etc.
b)     assessing support for a grass-roots campaign (incl. a significant on=
line presence)

2.     The possibility of an independent high level panel to make recommend=
ations on IG principles and recommend frameworks/institutions for IG

3.     Less directly, gauging need for developing a possible new framework/=
mechanisms/institution for Internet governance

IANA and ICANN Globalization

An additional topic of discussion was the globalization of IANA and ICANN. =
This is largely (but not unanimously) seen to be separate from the Internet=
 governance topics above. There is a lot of work being done on this by the =
I* CEO's and ICANN, and separate updates will be sent on this going forward=
.

Status of Initiatives

There have been many meetings held during and since the IGF (some I* CEO me=
etings and many other smaller group meetings), and it has been quite a movi=
ng target.  To cut to the current status:

Coalition/Dialogue: With respect to the first "initiative" above, the emerg=
ing purpose seems to be: catalyse a multi-stakeholder movement to develop, =
through an open processes, a framework for evolving, broadening and strengt=
hening Internet Governance/Cooperation arrangements, and to advocate for it=
s adoption.

In discussions since the IGF with a small group from Industry, Civil Societ=
y, I*, and others there seems to be support for a global dialogue (not a Co=
alition) and a name was agreed 1Net.  ICANN has put up the basic website (s=
ee: http://www.1Net.org<http://www.1net.org/>) and the NRO/AfriNIC CEO is t=
he lead.  There are discussions underway with respect to finalizing the pur=
pose/charter, the management going forward and a possible steering committe=
e. Other open questions remain about the grassroots campaign, what will act=
ually be done with the "dialogue/website", etc.   And, all of these should =
be resolved by the broader community.

There are important funding implications as well, and this is expected to b=
e a point of discussion not only within the broader "Dialogue", but with th=
e I* CEO's as well.

ISOC is watching this space carefully to see what might be useful, while be=
ing mindful that each organization needs to thoroughly engage its own commu=
nities.  This Dialogue should not be a substitute for that engagement.  Our=
 independent and yet aligned voices are very important components of any In=
ternet governance dialogue, and were clearly instrumental in our considerab=
le success throughout WSIS I and II.

Independent high level panel - this has been modified significantly since i=
t was first moved at the Montevideo I* CEO meeting (where in full transpare=
ncy, virtually all gathered had significant objections to an All Star high =
level panel - for all the reasons one would expect in our community).

It is now meant to be only one possible input and has a more Internet infor=
med panel.    There will be additional information available shortly.

IMPORTANT - NEW!!  Issues Framework: Internet Challenges: A framework for t=
ackling the hard political, technical, operational and social problems faci=
ng the Internet

Finally, I would like to point to a resource ISOC rcently developed in orde=
r to better inform various discussions on Internet Governance Issues. This =
framework for tackling Internet issues was developed by Leslie Daigle and m=
yself in advance of ISOC's opening speech at the IGF.  We pulled it togethe=
r over the course of a day and a half, so please help us improve it.

The framework is, in part, a response to what I believe are somewhat cavali=
er statements being made about Internet governance gaps and so-called orpha=
n issues which entirely belie the underlying complexity of the issues, and/=
or ignore efforts already underway to help address them. We felt we needed =
to engage the broader community in a more thoughtful discussion.  This was =
well received in the IGF, and at the recent IETF meeting where it was also =
featured.

The objective is to categorize possible solution paths for the various IG c=
hallenges we all see.  This is expected to help in subsequent discussions o=
f roles or new mechanisms.

We are looking for input across many communities and would very much apprec=
iate any comments you may have. Over the next few weeks you will see more s=
pecific requests and opportunities to inform, use, and further develop this=
 framework. Find out more at:

http://www.internetsociety.org/internetstrong

and please do start discussions on this "framework/taxonomy" on our lists, =
with members, as well as on other lists. We need broad input and review, th=
ese are cross-cutting issues and require the engagement of many different s=
takeholders.

Closing:

We will post regular updates to our members, and on our website/blogs, etc.=
  We look forward to working together to help make the Internet stronger an=
d we encourage everyone to get engaged in these discussions - locally, nati=
onally, regionally and, of course internationally.   And, bring your friend=
s and colleagues - the more voices the better.

Best regards,

Lynn St.Amour





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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lynn St.Amour<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 15, 2013 11:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> isoc-advisory-council@elists.isoc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [isoc-advisory-council] Internet Governance Update - Nov. 1=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Dear AC members,</span><=
o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
Please find&nbsp;the second of what is planned to be regular updates on key=
 Internet governance&nbsp;activities.&nbsp;&nbsp;Future updates will be&nbs=
p;shorter.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;background included here is&nbsp;to help lay=
out today&#8217;s overall environment.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
In the last&nbsp;month, there have been many discussions around two develop=
ments that took place&nbsp;just prior to and during the Internet Governance=
&nbsp;Forum (IGF) in Bali.&nbsp;&nbsp;One was the&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://ww=
w.internetsociety.org/news/montevideo-statement-future-internet-cooperation=
">Montevideo
 Statement</a>, which was distributed on 7 October and was well received at=
 the IGF.&nbsp;The&nbsp;other was the unexpected announcement at the IGF of=
 an Internet Governance&nbsp;Summit, or High Level Meeting, to be held in B=
razil in early May&nbsp;2014.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I* CEO Meetings:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
With respect to the Montevideo meeting and the statement that was&nbsp;issu=
ed afterwards, some background might be helpful -- these I* CEO meetings&nb=
sp;have taken place regularly for the past three years (usually twice a yea=
r,&nbsp;several days). &nbsp;They were mainly to build
 relations/common cause across&nbsp;the I* organizations. &nbsp; We work to=
 understand our respective&nbsp;positions on key issues (and hopefully are =
aligned) or at least to minimize surprises.&nbsp;&nbsp;The meetings were no=
t meant to be a &quot;standing venue&quot;, but&nbsp;rather to build strong=
er
 relations. &nbsp;The meetings are convened and chaired&nbsp;by ISOC,&nbsp;=
specifically, by me, as ISOC President &amp; CEO, at the request of&nbsp;th=
e other I* organizations.&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;reflects our broad Mission a=
nd the breadth of our&nbsp;organization and&nbsp;responsibilities. &nbsp;Fi=
nally, the
 I* organizations are:&nbsp;&nbsp;IAB, IANA functions operator, ICANN, IETF=
, ISOC,&nbsp;the 5 RIR's, and W3C.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Unlike past meetings, the I* community&nbsp;felt that the&nbsp;surveillance=
 issues (and the reactions we were seeing affecting the Internet&nbsp;and u=
sers) were so&nbsp;serious that we needed to go on record.&nbsp;&nbsp;And, =
thanks to Ra=FAl Echeberria for his&nbsp;leadership throughout the meeting
 around such a statement. &nbsp;As&nbsp;virtually&nbsp;all (maybe all) of t=
he organizations had previously been on record for many of&nbsp;these point=
s, we felt it was appropriate to go forward.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Heading to&nbsp;the IGF week, the I* CEO&#8217;s had planned to work togeth=
er to&nbsp;&#8220;catalyze community-wide efforts towards the evolution of =
global&nbsp;multistakeholder Internet cooperation&#8221; as called for in t=
he Montevideo&nbsp;Statement. This took on an added urgency and dimension
 with the&nbsp;unexpected announcement&nbsp;of the Brazil meeting.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Brazil High Level Meeting<br>
&nbsp;<br>
This &#8220;Brazil&nbsp;summit&#8221; came out of a discussion between ICAN=
N and the Brazilian government and&nbsp;followed the Montevideo I* CEO meet=
ing.&nbsp;&nbsp;This&nbsp;announcement caused concern on the part of many o=
f those present at&nbsp;the IGF for various reasons: it was seen to be pote=
ntially
 competing with the&nbsp;IGF, the role of governments vs. other stakeholder=
s was unclear, the timing&nbsp;prior to several important ITU and UN meetin=
gs raised concerns about&nbsp;its outcomes&nbsp;and their impact on those m=
eetings. There was also a mistaken assumption that the&nbsp;Brazil
 meeting was linked to the collective I*&nbsp;organization&#8217;s leadersh=
ip as an&nbsp;outcrop of the Montevideo statement.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
In the&nbsp;course of the discussions at the IGF and since, what was origin=
ally labeled a&nbsp;&#8220;Summit&#8221; evolved to a &#8220;high level mee=
ting.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp;Discussions are taking&nbsp;place with the&nbsp;Bra=
zilians and a number of organizations, and the I* organizations are also in=
volved,&nbsp;including
 ISOC.&nbsp;&nbsp;While nothing is&nbsp;official, the&nbsp;purpose of the C=
onference is expected to address strengthening&nbsp;Internet cooperation by=
 discussing high-level principles and institutional&nbsp;frameworks. This c=
onference is not meant to produce proposals on specific&nbsp;Internet
 policy issues.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Montevideo Statement and&nbsp;catalyzing community-wide&nbsp;efforts<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Many&nbsp;of the discussions during the IGF week focused on clarifying and =
gaining&nbsp;support for some possible initiatives (and necessarily include=
d the&nbsp;Brazil meeting),&nbsp;as well as gaining support from other comm=
unities including the private sector,&nbsp;civil society
 and governments. These discussions also&nbsp;aimed to clarify/advance:&nbs=
p;1) statements about a shift in leadership away from the United States as =
a&nbsp;result of disclosures about surveillance and the&nbsp;subsequent imp=
act on the principles&nbsp;and reality of the open global
 Internet, and 2) continuing discussions about&nbsp;the future of Internet =
Governance&nbsp;and what was called Internet Governance gaps.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Possible Initiatives<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Discussions&nbsp;at IGF and elsewhere seem to be coalescing around the foll=
owing initiatives:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
1.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Gauging&nbsp;support for a multi-stakeholder coa=
lition/dialogue/initiative that would help close&nbsp;an &#8220;Internet Go=
vernance gap&#8221;<br>
a)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the purpose of&nbsp;and level of formality/struc=
tures to support this coalition, etc.<br>
b)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;assessing&nbsp;support for a grass-roots campaig=
n (incl. a significant online presence)<br>
&nbsp;<br>
2.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The possibility of an independent high level&nbsp;pan=
el to make recommendations on IG principles and recommend frameworks/instit=
utions&nbsp;for&nbsp;IG<br>
&nbsp;<br>
3.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Less&nbsp;directly, gauging need for developing =
a possible new framework/mechanisms/institution&nbsp;for Internet governanc=
e<br>
&nbsp;<br>
IANA and ICANN Globalization<br>
&nbsp;<br>
An&nbsp;additional topic of discussion was the globalization of IANA and IC=
ANN. This is&nbsp;largely (but not unanimously) seen to be separate from th=
e&nbsp;Internet governance&nbsp;topics above. There is a lot of work being =
done on this by the I* CEO&#8217;s and&nbsp;ICANN, and separate
 updates will be sent on this&nbsp;going forward.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Status of Initiatives<br>
&nbsp;<br>
There have&nbsp;been many meetings held during and since the IGF (some I* C=
EO meetings and many&nbsp;other smaller group meetings), and it has been&nb=
sp;quite a moving target.&nbsp;&nbsp;To cut to the current status:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Coalition/Dialogue: With respect to the first &#8220;initiative&#8221;&nbsp=
;above, the emerging purpose seems to be:&nbsp;catalyse a&nbsp;multi-stakeh=
older movement to&nbsp;develop,&nbsp;through&nbsp;an open processes,&nbsp;a=
 framework for evolving,&nbsp;broadening and strengthening&nbsp;Internet&nb=
sp;Governance/Cooperation
 arrangements,&nbsp;and to advocate for its adoption.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
In&nbsp;discussions since the IGF with a small group from Industry, Civil S=
ociety, I*,&nbsp;and others there seems to be support for a global dialogue=
 (not a&nbsp;Coalition)&nbsp;and a name was agreed 1Net.&nbsp;&nbsp;ICANN h=
as&nbsp;put up the basic website (see:&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.1net.org/=
">http://www.1Net.org</a>)
 and the NRO/AfriNIC CEO is the lead.&nbsp;&nbsp;There&nbsp;are discussions=
 underway with respect&nbsp;to finalizing the purpose/charter, the manageme=
nt going forward and a possible&nbsp;steering committee. Other&nbsp;open qu=
estions remain about the grassroots campaign,&nbsp;what will actually
 be done with the &#8220;dialogue/website&#8221;, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And=
, all&nbsp;of these should be&nbsp;resolved by the broader community.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
There are important&nbsp;funding implications as well, and this is expected=
 to be a point of discussion&nbsp;not only within the broader &#8220;Dialog=
ue&#8221;, but with&nbsp;the I* CEO&#8217;s as well.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
ISOC is&nbsp;watching this space carefully to see what might be useful, whi=
le being mindful&nbsp;that each organization needs to thoroughly engage its=
 own&nbsp;communities.&nbsp;&nbsp;This Dialogue should not be a substitute =
for&nbsp;that engagement.&nbsp;&nbsp;Our independent and yet aligned voices=
&nbsp;are
 very important&nbsp;components of any Internet governance dialogue, and we=
re clearly instrumental&nbsp;in our considerable success throughout WSIS I =
and II.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Independent high level panel&nbsp;&#8211; this has been modified significan=
tly since&nbsp;it was first moved at the Montevideo I* CEO meeting (where i=
n full&nbsp;transparency,&nbsp;virtually all gathered had significant objec=
tions to an All Star high level&nbsp;panel &#8211; for all the reasons
 one would expect in our&nbsp;community).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
It is now&nbsp;meant to be only one possible input and has a more Internet =
informed panel.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There&nbsp;will be additional inform=
ation available shortly.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
IMPORTANT - NEW!!&nbsp;&nbsp;Issues Framework:&nbsp;Internet&nbsp;Challenge=
s: A framework for tackling the hard political, technical, operational&nbsp=
;and social&nbsp;problems facing the Internet<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Finally, I&nbsp;would like to point to a resource ISOC rcently developed in=
 order to better&nbsp;inform various discussions on Internet Governance Iss=
ues. This&nbsp;framework for&nbsp;tackling Internet issues was developed by=
 Leslie Daigle and myself in advance&nbsp;of ISOC&#8217;s opening
 speech at the IGF.&nbsp;&nbsp;We&nbsp;pulled it&nbsp;together over the cou=
rse of a day and a half, so please help us&nbsp;improve it.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
The&nbsp;framework is, in part, a response to what I believe are somewhat c=
avalier&nbsp;statements being made about Internet governance gaps and so-ca=
lled&nbsp;orphan&nbsp;issues which entirely belie the underlying complexity=
 of the issues, and/or&nbsp;ignore efforts already underway
 to help address them. We felt we&nbsp;needed to&nbsp;engage the broader co=
mmunity in a more thoughtful discussion.&nbsp;&nbsp;This was well received =
in the IGF, and at the&nbsp;recent IETF meeting where it&nbsp;was also feat=
ured.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
The objective is to categorize possible&nbsp;solution paths for the various=
 IG challenges we all see.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is expected to help in subsequen=
t&nbsp;discussions&nbsp;of roles or new mechanisms.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
We are looking for input across many&nbsp;communities and would very much a=
ppreciate any comments you may have. Over the&nbsp;next few weeks&nbsp;you =
will see more specific requests and opportunities to inform,&nbsp;use, and =
further develop this framework. Find out more at:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.internetsociety.org/internetstrong">http://www.intern=
etsociety.org/internetstrong</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
and&nbsp;please do start discussions on this &#8220;framework/taxonomy&#822=
1; on our lists, with&nbsp;members, as well as on other lists. We need broa=
d input and&nbsp;review, these are&nbsp;cross-cutting issues and require th=
e engagement of many different&nbsp;stakeholders.&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Closing:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
We will post&nbsp;regular updates to our members, and on our website/blogs,=
 etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;We look forward to working together to help&nbsp;make the =
Internet&nbsp;stronger and we encourage everyone to get engaged in these&nb=
sp;discussions &#8211; locally, nationally, regionally and, of course
 internationally.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And, bring&nbsp;your friends and colleag=
ues &#8211; the more voices the better.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Best&nbsp;regards,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Lynn&nbsp;St.Amour<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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Subject: [Internetgovtech] Debate on the African Union Convention on Cyber Security (AUCC)
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Hi Jean Paul,
At 21:54 24-11-2013, Jean Paul NKURUNZIZA wrote:
>Thank you Grace for sharing those updates about the  African Union 
>Convention on Cyber Security(AUCC)
>Just last week ( 21 and 22 November 2013) , the National 
>Telecommunication Regulatory Authority of Burundi  ( I am burundian 
>based in Burundi) has conducted a sensitisation workshop about the 
>issue of cybersecurity.

The (European) Convention on Cybercrime is different from the 
(African Union) draft convention on the confidence and security in 
cyberspace.  The former is somewhat about computer-related offences, 
content-related offences and offences related to infringements of 
copyright and related rights.  As a quick note, it seems that the 
draft convention tries to cover consumer protection, intellectual 
property rights, personal data and information systems.  It is a bit 
odd to mix all that with legislation to tackle activities which are 
legislated as criminal activities.

The differences between the convention and this draft convention are 
that the latter:

   - tries to solve the spam problem

   - includes electronic transaction

   - includes a legal framework for personal data protection

The scope of the draft convention is broad.  The draft convention 
does not have any text about lawful interception.  That can be used 
to address the problems the draft convention attempts to solve.  The 
drawback is that it might entail less personal data protection.

Regards,
-sm 

