From hartmans@mit.edu Mon Nov 2 17:58:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8813D28C142 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:58:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.349, BAYES_40=-0.185, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NvA7gqBTsCTa for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE62928C140 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7921B20205 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 0556D446D; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:52 -0500 (EST) To: lisp@ietf.org From: Sam Hartman Message-Id: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:58:35 -0000 Folks, is there any interest in getting together for interop testing Sunday at IETF? Margaret and I will have an ITR and ETR functioning for v4 and hopefully V6 at that point. Assuming people are going to be around it would be great to get together with others who have implementations of the current drafts to see what works and what does not. --Sam From dino@cisco.com Tue Nov 3 10:36:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34B328C182 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5mINbuHOs8WA for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2EC28C137 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:12 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJMH8EqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADHCZgZhD0Ei2g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,675,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="220791747" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2009 18:36:33 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA3IaXxL002987; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:36:33 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.187]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:33 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([10.21.122.164]) by xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:36:32 -0800 Message-Id: <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> From: Dino Farinacci To: Sam Hartman In-Reply-To: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:31:00 -0800 References: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2009 18:36:32.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[90DC8440:01CA5CB4] Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:36:13 -0000 > Folks, is there any interest in getting together for interop testing > Sunday at IETF? Margaret and I will have an ITR and ETR functioning > for v4 and hopefully V6 at that point. Sam, think we can do this Monday night? Some of us are not getting into Hiroshima until late on Sunday night. > Assuming people are going to be around it would be great to get > together with others who have implementations of the current drafts to > see what works and what does not. Yes, this would be great. Maybe it can evolve into an implementation report that can be given at the Thu or Fri working group sessions? Dino > > --Sam > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From mrw@sandstorm.net Tue Nov 3 10:48:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4743A6A58 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.373 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.108, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4qyQp-o7XSCS for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76863A6A4A for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.0.20] (ip-69-33-111-74.bos.megapath.net [69.33.111.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id nA3ImwhY005253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:48:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mrw@sandstorm.net) Message-Id: <11FB5F34-E15C-4FDB-8D0F-E92CDCE140DA@sandstorm.net> From: Margaret Wasserman To: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:48:58 -0500 References: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:48:48 -0000 On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: >> Folks, is there any interest in getting together for interop testing >> Sunday at IETF? Margaret and I will have an ITR and ETR functioning >> for v4 and hopefully V6 at that point. > > Sam, think we can do this Monday night? Monday night would work for me. > > Some of us are not getting into Hiroshima until late on Sunday night. > >> Assuming people are going to be around it would be great to get >> together with others who have implementations of the current drafts >> to >> see what works and what does not. > > Yes, this would be great. Maybe it can evolve into an implementation > report that can be given at the Thu or Fri working group sessions? That would be excellent! Margaret From hartmans@mit.edu Tue Nov 3 11:15:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372AE3A6814 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.990, BAYES_20=-0.74, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a3lEw3kZlp4Y for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A9A3A63D3 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37605201C9; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 9E1034496; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:15:57 -0500 (EST) To: Dino Farinacci References: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> From: Sam Hartman Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:15:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> (Dino Farinacci's message of "Tue\, 3 Nov 2009 10\:31\:00 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:15:39 -0000 Dino, Monday works great for me too. From damien.saucez@uclouvain.be Tue Nov 3 11:20:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E105C28C0E6 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:20:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FqL58QwHQnRr for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.sgsi.ucl.ac.be (smtp.sgsi.ucl.ac.be [130.104.5.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EA53A681A for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ip-62-235-235-32.dsl.scarlet.be [62.235.235.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dsaucez@smtp4.sgsi.ucl.ac.be) by smtp4.sgsi.ucl.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91237F0D49; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:21:01 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp4.sgsi.ucl.ac.be 91237F0D49 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uclouvain.be; s=selucl; t=1257276061; bh=4Mx8hUhlAhBQdagTFDcSfAzZUGgSLf2K2T1jOhGbF7o=; h=Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=jaR38KNtRNoZGVQqugvl0O5T1s6oEZ/I+I+yF+apcLHqE+ljcwr0mpSPyTyOTtBPx f0uFXhvlLwYUekyG7oQLpvbwXyLZShKWHu+OMjled2ejM8k5ykKbneODKl/bEjAdxH HITJMrrxF7o4vRy5I2dI6PKy8DYjPHLl1SidiUQM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:20:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <759ED4A1-5335-41E7-BB72-CC315E84148C@uclouvain.be> References: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> To: Sam Hartman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at smtp-4.sipr-dc.ucl.ac.be X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sgsi-Spamcheck: SASL authenticated, X-SGSI-MailScanner-ID: 91237F0D49.00000 X-SGSI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SGSI-From: damien.saucez@uclouvain.be X-SGSI-Spam-Status: No Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:20:37 -0000 On 03 Nov 2009, at 20:15, Sam Hartman wrote: > Dino, Monday works great for me too. for me too. Damien Saucez > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From terry.manderson@icann.org Tue Nov 3 15:15:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E3C3A679F for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qd6qkvjaAdHd for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2395F3A6778 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.233]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:16:01 -0800 From: Terry Manderson To: "lisp@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:16:00 -0800 Thread-Topic: Minute taker and scribe for meeting Thread-Index: Acpc25roDuSnOHFL00GAe0BCjRGIqw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en, en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lisp] Minute taker and scribe for meeting X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:15:40 -0000 Hi All, I'm in search for two people to help me in Hiroshima. I'll naturally be taking minutes - but would like an extra set of ears near "the other microphone" to augment what is recorded. I'd also like a jabber scribe to help those who are not physically present. Please contact me off list. Cheers Terry From luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de Wed Nov 4 00:06:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F793A6988 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:06:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zpJ+qBSt2Krr for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C8E3A68B0 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (p4FC25AA9.dip.t-dialin.net [79.194.90.169]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EBF700D292; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:06:37 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <759ED4A1-5335-41E7-BB72-CC315E84148C@uclouvain.be> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:06:37 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20091103015852.0556D446D@carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org> <8B54FD9B-5219-4E35-9C72-5AA3A6981D4B@cisco.com> <759ED4A1-5335-41E7-BB72-CC315E84148C@uclouvain.be> To: Damien Saucez X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Interest in interop testing Sunday X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:06:17 -0000 I am in too. Luigi On Nov 3, 2009, at 20:20 , Damien Saucez wrote: > > On 03 Nov 2009, at 20:15, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> Dino, Monday works great for me too. > for me too. > > Damien Saucez > >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From hartmans@mit.edu Thu Nov 5 06:57:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F257B3A6AA7 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:57:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.689, BAYES_05=-1.11, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZdrzaXvPAexd for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625103A68DE for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECAFA202FA; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 179B9445C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:58:02 -0500 (EST) To: dmm@1-4-5.net,lisp@ietf.org From: Sam Hartman Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:58:02 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:57:44 -0000 Dave's github repository seems to have disappeared. Does anyone know where lig lives now? From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Thu Nov 5 08:18:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC01F3A6916 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:18:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.854 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.854 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gf0rTgjuk+6i for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E7E3A6959 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 806CD6BE656; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:19:15 -0500 (EST) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091105161915.806CD6BE656@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:19:15 -0500 (EST) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:18:54 -0000 > From: Sam Hartman > Dave's github repository seems to have disappeared. > Does anyone know where lig lives now? ??? The link from http://www.lisp4.net/ to the LIG sources: http://github.com/davidmeyer/lig works for me. Noel From hartmans@mit.edu Thu Nov 5 08:22:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C13A3A6B28 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:22:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.909, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id umV2YbAUoajp for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9DC3A6B25 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00129202FA; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 2CAEE43BE; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:22:44 -0500 (EST) To: Sam Hartman References: From: Sam Hartman Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:22:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Sam Hartman's message of "Thu\, 05 Nov 2009 09\:58\:02 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:22:29 -0000 This was user error plus a configuration change on the github side. The repository works fine. From dmm@1-4-5.net Thu Nov 5 08:26:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7354228C1E1 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BJBzEPGnmYVr for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (m106.maoz.com [205.167.76.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731DC28C1F8 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id nA5GQOcr004783; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:24 -0800 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA5GQNEx004782; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:23 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:26:23 -0800 From: David Meyer To: Sam Hartman Message-ID: <20091105162623.GA4762@1-4-5.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "I just had to let it go. John Lennon" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:26:08 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:58:02AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >=20 >=20 > Dave's github repository seems to have disappeared. > Does anyone know where lig lives now? nope. http://github.com/davidmeyer/lig Dave --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkry/K8ACgkQORgD1qCZ2KfG1ACfSmmb4HefmtUGabKhM5pl9Op5 IuYAn0ameIs6jM+BLieudRC4x/EM642Q =W0Sz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From dmm@1-4-5.net Thu Nov 5 08:27:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B0D28C1F7 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwoFdr5g4gjq for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (m106.maoz.com [205.167.76.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F15628C1ED for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id nA5GRnCD004932; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:49 -0800 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA5GRnQN004931; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:49 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:27:49 -0800 From: David Meyer To: Sam Hartman Message-ID: <20091105162749.GA4902@1-4-5.net> References: <20091105162623.GA4762@1-4-5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091105162623.GA4762@1-4-5.net> X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "I just had to let it go. John Lennon" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:27:41 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 08:26:23AM -0800, David Meyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:58:02AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > Dave's github repository seems to have disappeared. > > Does anyone know where lig lives now? >=20 > nope. http://github.com/davidmeyer/lig BTW, there is some bug that makes lig not work on Mac OS. Bill and I spent some time trying to find it but to no avail. If anyone happens to spot it please let me know. Thanks, Dave --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkry/QUACgkQORgD1qCZ2KdCHACgiFxsvzyRr+8CreHvh/cYebTj oUAAn23NyzPX5cZDnMQbLU+P9ovJwUl7 =3ILJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From mrw@sandstorm.net Thu Nov 5 08:50:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0266D3A6823 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.332 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.332 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aUfV6Mkax1Bf for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AD13A659C for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.0.20] (ip-69-33-111-74.bos.megapath.net [69.33.111.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id nA5GoUx9019230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:50:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mrw@sandstorm.net) Message-Id: <1369CF6A-266E-4E8B-8D90-2E9B0339087E@sandstorm.net> From: Margaret Wasserman To: David Meyer In-Reply-To: <20091105162749.GA4902@1-4-5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:50:29 -0500 References: <20091105162623.GA4762@1-4-5.net> <20091105162749.GA4902@1-4-5.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:50:41 -0000 Hi Dave, I've gotten it to work on MacOS in the past, and I'll see if I can get the latest version to do so. If so, I'll show you the code changes in Hiroshima. Margaret On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:27 AM, David Meyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 08:26:23AM -0800, David Meyer wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:58:02AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dave's github repository seems to have disappeared. >>> Does anyone know where lig lives now? >> >> nope. http://github.com/davidmeyer/lig > > BTW, there is some bug that makes lig not work on Mac > OS. Bill and I spent some time trying to find it but to > no avail. If anyone happens to spot it please let me > know. > > Thanks, > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From dmm@1-4-5.net Thu Nov 5 08:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214963A6B2F for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:52:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2FKv2XAOR+74 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (m106.maoz.com [205.167.76.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C393A6B29 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id nA5GrDij007048; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:53:13 -0800 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA5GrDVL007047; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:53:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:53:13 -0800 From: David Meyer To: Margaret Wasserman Message-ID: <20091105165313.GA7023@1-4-5.net> References: <20091105162623.GA4762@1-4-5.net> <20091105162749.GA4902@1-4-5.net> <1369CF6A-266E-4E8B-8D90-2E9B0339087E@sandstorm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1369CF6A-266E-4E8B-8D90-2E9B0339087E@sandstorm.net> X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "I just had to let it go. John Lennon" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Where are the lig sources? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:52:52 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:50:29AM -0500, Margaret Wasserman wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I've gotten it to work on MacOS in the past, and I'll see if I can get = =20 > the latest version to do so. If so, I'll show you the code changes in = =20 > Hiroshima. Thanks, much appreciated. What I observe is that the driver thinks its sent the packet, but the packet never shows up on the wire. A mystery at the moment. Dave --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrzAvkACgkQORgD1qCZ2KfFNgCfTed+xL3P5po7jv/lgGqrOErZ 7ZkAnRKuXSSimlCdvOiUC9A+x+5gu/tC =EprL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From mrw@sandstorm.net Thu Nov 5 13:21:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B323A68F1 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:21:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i7B2N98mmXEC for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994503A68AB for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.0.20] (ip-69-33-111-74.bos.megapath.net [69.33.111.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id nA5LLGdo042498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:21:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mrw@sandstorm.net) Message-Id: From: Margaret Wasserman To: Sam Hartman , "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:21:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: [lisp] Agenda for LISP? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:21:06 -0000 Is there an agenda for the LISP meeting next week? I'm in the process of downloading draft before I head to the airport tomorrow morning, and I'd like to know what I should read in preparation for the session. Thanks, Margaret From darlewis@cisco.com Fri Nov 6 15:33:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AFE3A69D0 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:33:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fvmn1Ve1fZ8Z for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501803A69B4 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:33:39 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAdB9EqtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbADEQJgPhD4EjAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,696,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="66792705" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2009 23:34:02 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA6NY0Ho006001; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:34:02 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-213.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.153]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:34:02 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:34:00 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Agenda for LISP? Thread-Index: AcpeXfCcNvgLhP7NTuOdIVQUTzokxQA2RN5g References: From: "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" To: "Margaret Wasserman" , "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2009 23:34:02.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F2BE8B0:01CA5F39] Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Agenda for LISP? X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:33:40 -0000 >=20 >=20 > Is there an agenda for the LISP meeting next week? I'm in=20 > the process =20 > of downloading draft before I head to the airport tomorrow morning, =20 > and I'd like to know what I should read in preparation for=20 > the session. >=20 > Thanks, > Margaret Margaret, Below is a first cut of the agenda. There may well be changes since I'm still waiting on hearing final word from a couple of the presenters. If we've missed anyone pls send the chairs corrections/comments. -Darrel Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) WG =20 THURSDAY, November 12, 2009 0900-1130 Morning Session I Orchid East = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D =20 CHAIR(s): Darrel Lewis (darlewis@cisco.com) Sam Hartman (hartmans-ietf@mit.edu) =20 SECRETARY: Terry Manderson (terry.manderson@icann.org) =20 =20 AGENDA =20 o Administrivia 5 minutes Lewis =20 - Scribe(s)? Jabber Other - Blue Sheets =20 o Agenda Bashing 5 minutes Lewis/Hartman =20 =20 o Review of Open Issues =20 LISP Mapping Request Format see WG meeting materials page 30 Minutes Halpern =20 LISP Security Analysis & Discussion see wiki and WG mailing list for background 30 Minutes Hartman =20 =20 LISP Deployment Scenarios see WG mailing list for background 20 Minutes Lewis & Wasserman FRIDAY, November 13, 2009 0900-1130 Morning Session I Orchid WEST = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D =20 o Other updates =20 =09 LISP Implementaitons Update 20 Minutes=20 see WG meeting materials page TBD =20 LISP Network Update Meyer/Fuller 10 minutes =20 LISP Internet Groper (LIG) draft-farinacci-lisp-lig-01 Meyer 5 minutes =20 LISP Mobility Archetecture draft-meyer-lisp-mn-00.txt Meyer 20 minutes =20 =20 =20 From jari.arkko@piuha.net Mon Nov 9 02:29:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A0D3A688D for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:29:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QPYaSlPOTCm5 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59093A6851 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F70D492C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:29:51 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d11T2-6OUT7y for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:29:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F65D4926 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:29:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AF7EF1C.5070607@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:29:48 +0900 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [lisp] LISP WG changes after Hiroshima X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:29:26 -0000 You may remember that in September I got several complaints about the working group. I have continued to track the situation. Some amount of controversy is expected in any working group, and there will always be heated discussions in any group. For instance, contributors with different plans to deploy or implement the technology may legitimately have different requirements. Resolving these differences in a balanced way is the key to producing a high quality specification. However, to manage this process it is essential that I have a team of chairs and editors that work well together, trust each other, and want to work together. I do not say this lightly, but unfortunately, I no longer believe we have that in this working group. To be clear, I still believe the fundamentals of the working group are good. There are implementations. There are interested WG participants. This is important work, and we should publish a set of Experimental RFCs as planned next year. Producing those RFCs requires effort but will ultimately pay off in the form of a high quality spec. And we need to learn everything we can about this technology and how it works in practice. I also have the highest trust in everyone both in the chair/editor team and in the working group at large. Everyone is trying to do the right thing. Given that the fundamentals are right, I am making some changes in an attempt to create an environment where the group can move forward again. Here's what we are going to do: 1. After Hiroshima, I will assign new chairs and find a new editor for the base specification. (The current authors of the base document will naturally remain as authors and active contributors.) 2. Going towards Anaheim, one of the tasks of the working group is to form a common understanding of the deployment scenarios. This understanding will help the group make protocol design decisions. I see that Darrel and Margaret have already agreed to lead a discussion about this on Thursday - good. Sam, Darrel, and Dino: I apologize for the situation. I blame myself for this more than anyone else; I should have seen this coming when we set the working group up. I appreciate the fact that you have all promised to continue pursuing work in the LISP WG as key contributor, author, inventor, and implementor roles, despite this being a painful situation. Thank you for the hard work you've done so far and what you will do in the future. Feedback on this plan, nominations and self-nominations for new chairs and editors, and other suggestions are appreciated. There will be a brief slot in the Thursday's meeting to discuss this as well. Jari Arkko Area Director for the LISP WG From terry.manderson@icann.org Mon Nov 9 17:21:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2412A3A6925 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.581 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.581 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MWpLWTKFrkqF for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AFC3A690D for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:58 -0800 From: Terry Manderson To: "lisp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:21:56 -0800 Thread-Topic: [lisp] Minute taker and scribe for meeting Thread-Index: Acpc25roDuSnOHFL00GAe0BCjRGIqwEyJY2N Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en, en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] Minute taker and scribe for meeting X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:21:32 -0000 I'm still in need of a jabber scribe and an extra person to take notes. Please help if you can. Cheers Terry On 4/11/09 9:16 AM, "Terry Manderson" wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > I'm in search for two people to help me in Hiroshima. I'll naturally be > taking minutes - but would like an extra set of ears near "the other > microphone" to augment what is recorded. >=20 > I'd also like a jabber scribe to help those who are not physically presen= t. >=20 > Please contact me off list. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From vgill@vijaygill.com Wed Nov 11 20:48:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A6428C1EA for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.681 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.681 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.296, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q68vKeqjB3Sa for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f204.google.com (mail-px0-f204.google.com [209.85.216.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210AB28C1E2 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi42 with SMTP id 42so1295294pxi.5 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.60.3 with SMTP id i3mr259561wfa.147.1258001305630; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:48:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF7EF1C.5070607@piuha.net> References: <4AF7EF1C.5070607@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:48:25 +0900 Message-ID: <21ef2c1c0911112048o7e510f4ax9db40328fbdc02f0@mail.gmail.com> From: vijay gill To: Jari Arkko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] LISP WG changes after Hiroshima X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:48:03 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Feedback on this plan, nominations and self-nominations for new chairs and > editors, and other suggestions are appreciated. There will be a brief slot > in the Thursday's meeting to discuss this as well. Speaking purely in my individual capacity, I would like to nominate Darrel Lewis and Terry Manderson as WG chairs. /vijay > > Jari Arkko > Area Director for the LISP WG > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > From dmm@1-4-5.net Thu Nov 12 21:31:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A003A67F3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:31:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CcF3vSP-M671 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (m106.maoz.com [205.167.76.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6F93A676A for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id nAD5W8GD017089 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:32:08 -0800 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAD5W8qV017088 for lisp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:32:08 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:32:08 -0800 From: David Meyer To: lisp@ietf.org Message-ID: <20091113053208.GA17055@1-4-5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "I just had to let it go. John Lennon" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: [lisp] if you want to connect to the LISP test network... X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:31:39 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Please send email to lisp-ops@external.cisco.com and we'll exchange information and get it all going. Thanks, Dave --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkr871gACgkQORgD1qCZ2Kd29QCfUKkBf37jtSSV0uogeXACKmSJ 4eoAn1ucx9w9g7MMziCv6/l1HCRK86Nw =omQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 12:58:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364523A687B for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:58:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.234 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.234 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.049, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3yUI76Ucgmvc for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8477F3A6841 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id E93196BE5D7; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:02 -0500 (EST) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091120205802.E93196BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:02 -0500 (EST) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [lisp] Map-Request error X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:58:07 -0000 So, what happens if/when a Map-Request packets arrives at an ETR which is not authoritative for the request EID? I looked at the spec, but I don't think how to handle this is described? (Although perhaps I was just too hasty?) I would assume this should result in an error reply, but I don't think LISP has error replies (yet)? Noel From jmh@joelhalpern.com Fri Nov 20 12:59:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2FC3A690F for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:59:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qm+u1eX2vGxl for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955323A67AF for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429114305B1; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:59:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hermes.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.10.102] (pool-71-161-50-79.clppva.btas.verizon.net [71.161.50.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BA64305AE; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:59:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B070346.4070303@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:59:50 -0500 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noel Chiappa References: <20091120205802.E93196BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20091120205802.E93196BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Map-Request error X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:59:52 -0000 LISP does have negative replies. THe interesting problem in this case is that it is not at all clear that an error reply to the ITR (the normal target of ETR map responses), could do anything with such a message. For a map request to get to an ETR which is not authoritative would imply something went wrong in the ALT. Such things do happen. Yours, Joel Noel Chiappa wrote: > So, what happens if/when a Map-Request packets arrives at an ETR which is not > authoritative for the request EID? I looked at the spec, but I don't think > how to handle this is described? (Although perhaps I was just too hasty?) > > I would assume this should result in an error reply, but I don't think LISP > has error replies (yet)? > > Noel > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Fri Nov 20 13:06:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5BD3A67D3 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:06:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.36 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.36 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.239, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K89rmgdlfldp for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202EC3A67AF for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 04C316BE5D7; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:06:43 -0500 (EST) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20091120210644.04C316BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:06:43 -0500 (EST) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Map-Request error X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:06:48 -0000 > From: "Joel M. Halpern" > LISP does have negative replies. Oh, right you are, I missed that - thanks! > For a map request to get to an ETR which is not authoritative would > imply something went wrong in the ALT. Umm, no. In addition to dimwits (programming error, etc) there is a real circumstance that could provoke this: an RLOC Probe to a cached ETR which has since been removed as a valid ETR for a given destination EID. (I'm on a LISP protocol big-hunt... :-) > Te interesting problem in this case is that it is not at all clear that > an error reply to the ITR (the normal target of ETR map responses), > could do anything with such a message. I would think the proper response in such a case as above (once you have detected that there is a problem, which is why I was enquiring about the error message :-) is to drop the cached mapping, and (probably) request a new one. Noel From hartmans@mit.edu Fri Nov 20 14:03:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE7D3A672F for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:03:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.433, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 294JFqowLIBB for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFB83A63D3 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EDFD2019F; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id A373046BA; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:53 -0500 (EST) To: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) References: <20091120205802.E93196BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Sam Hartman Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20091120205802.E93196BE5D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (Noel Chiappa's message of "Fri\, 20 Nov 2009 15\:58\:02 -0500 \(EST\)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Map-Request error X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:03:02 -0000 >>>>> "Noel" == Noel Chiappa writes: Noel> So, what happens if/when a Map-Request packets arrives at an Noel> ETR which is not authoritative for the request EID? I looked Noel> at the spec, but I don't think how to handle this is Noel> described? (Although perhaps I was just too hasty?) You could send a negative map reply with one of the more useless act codes, although I agree that is not specified. If your ETR happens to be a map resolver, the map request arriving there is indistinguishable from a map resolver request and will thus be proxied. From menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de Wed Nov 25 22:10:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C303A68AE for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:10:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQ6ldCa9KEyz for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailrelay.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (mailrelay.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B226C3A6830 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from virusscan.mail (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay.mail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6005ACEE for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virusscan.mail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CE45ACF0 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:10:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-wuerzburg.de Received: from [10.10.30.146] (unknown [77.109.106.219]) by mailmaster.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 270985CC9D for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:10:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B0E1BBF.8030308@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:10:07 +0100 From: Michael Menth Organization: University of Wuerzburg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [lisp] Question regarding lisp-mn X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:10:40 -0000 Hi, in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-meyer-lisp-mn-00#section-6.1 it seems that map-servers are authoritative sources for the mappings of EIDs for mobile nodes. For other types of EIDs, the ETRs are the authoritative sources. Is that right? in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-meyer-lisp-mn-00#section-9 it is stated that a mobile node's RLOC is an EID which needs to be encapsulated by another RLOC when leaving the edge network. So what's the EID of a mobile node then? Does it still denote an endpoint? I don't believe so. Figure 2 nicely shows that 3 different types of addresses exist: outer-header: typical RLOC for routing between edge networks (global locator) middle-header: address used for routing within an edge network (local locator) inner-header: stable address used for identification on higher layers (location-independent identifier) I see the principle of the three different components in most proposals when they deal with mobility. However, in "normal" LISP, local locators are used for identification, which works well as long as they are stable. This saves an additional encapsulation header. Opinions? Regards, Michael -- Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206 phone: (+49)-931/31-86644 (new), fax: (+49)-931/888-6632 mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn From jari.arkko@piuha.net Mon Nov 30 01:18:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE3D3A6A32 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:18:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7aTHGB0Hbxev for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7613A6824 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDF5D4947; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:18:25 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8JUrG0T9jMmV; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:18:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC1AD4920; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:18:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4B138DE0.7050607@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:18:24 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joel Halpern Subject: [lisp] new working group chairs X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:18:37 -0000 Joel Halpern and Terry Manderson have agreed to chair the group. They are already working to select an editor. I have also asked the routing ADs to assign us a new technical advisor (as Joel was our previous advisor). I would like to thank Joel and Terry for taking on this task, lets all welcome them to the task and work together to move Lisp specifications forward. A lot of effort is needed from everyone to have RFCs out next year! I would also like to thank Darrel, Sam, and Dino very much for their hard work so far. Again, I'm sorry we had to make changes, but nevertheless your efforts have been VERY much appreciated. And I know you are going to do many important things in the future, in LISP and elsewhere. Thank you. Jari From hartmans@mit.edu Mon Nov 30 05:43:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD073A6923 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1fqB0VTwrlM for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A293A67F9 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7EE920206; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id 39861641DA; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:42:56 -0500 (EST) To: Jari Arkko References: <4B138DE0.7050607@piuha.net> From: Sam Hartman Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:42:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B138DE0.7050607@piuha.net> (Jari Arkko's message of "Mon\, 30 Nov 2009 11\:18\:24 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Joel Halpern , lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] new working group chairs X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:19 -0000 >>>>> "Jari" == Jari Arkko writes: Jari> Joel Halpern and Terry Manderson have agreed to chair the Jari> group. They are already working to select an editor. I have Jari> also asked the routing ADs to assign us a new technical Jari> advisor (as Joel was our previous advisor). Excellent! I look forward to working with Joel and Terry and definitely appreciate that they are willing to serve. From hartmans@mit.edu Mon Nov 30 10:53:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18A63A68DF for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:53:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UKaxE+7U-iIx for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.suchdamage.org (permutation-city.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8793A6822 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org [69.25.196.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "laptop", Issuer "laptop" (not verified)) by mail.suchdamage.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 403BF2019F for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by carter-zimmerman.suchdamage.org (Postfix, from userid 8042) id EFEA2641DA; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:52:36 -0500 (EST) To: lisp@ietf.org From: Sam Hartman Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [lisp] issue tracker updates X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:53:02 -0000 Joel has asked me to update the issue tracker to be consistent with my understanding of the current state of issues. So, you'll see some state updates from me as I attempt to do that. From luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de Mon Nov 30 23:56:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D885E3A6B09 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:56:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.957 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.957 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4CCbJRVKg+Zq for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16063A6B1A for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp156.rm.cnr.it (dhcp156.rm.cnr.it [150.146.113.156]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F200C7067A8A for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:56:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <4B138DE0.7050607@piuha.net> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:56:00 +0100 Cc: lisp@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4B138DE0.7050607@piuha.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: [lisp] new working group chairs X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:56:09 -0000 Welcome Joel and Terry. Thanks Darrel, Sam, and Dino. Luigi On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:18 , Jari Arkko wrote: > Joel Halpern and Terry Manderson have agreed to chair the group. They = are already working to select an editor. I have also asked the routing = ADs to assign us a new technical advisor (as Joel was our previous = advisor). >=20 > I would like to thank Joel and Terry for taking on this task, lets all = welcome them to the task and work together to move Lisp specifications = forward. A lot of effort is needed from everyone to have RFCs out next = year! >=20 > I would also like to thank Darrel, Sam, and Dino very much for their = hard work so far. Again, I'm sorry we had to make changes, but = nevertheless your efforts have been VERY much appreciated. And I know = you are going to do many important things in the future, in LISP and = elsewhere. Thank you. >=20 > Jari >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp