From damien.saucez@gmail.com Thu Aug 9 13:13:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C448A21F86DA for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fgdDPPUfw-gq for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAC621F86CA for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so499123wgb.13 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=oudmebF3zcTut9pq3OEH4FHBGXSVBL426xW81nHIy8g=; b=r3xGHbHGpuSEdIg95hUm0sKyz/+lL0xszlVCntF1K6QJfGL1KKwrTtGgzN/vGqchQQ 1u+jaw6cnR458ba+tS8PW1XE0yyDH5f/y9dDVwQhrVm+9KPncyDD4c4c3XEuDJSATQpt gksjyTbq+37UOp4jNRVzjvq66fNlSd8fYA3S3C/XCrpxn0i5mCBu8tqQzjYeoeVxVVKV guvYTkMpI/IkpU2NBREAe54oGqBShP8numTpMSH00FH5HfCh6iqJwHSdfI4LB0rBWRF2 L6vq4ayNatWPLJEmn7XDvxogmu46Pe/px0rm2LyCT2Ni7LAJbxp7uhbAp2svByLEWTIG EAgw== Received: by 10.180.105.163 with SMTP id gn3mr1259468wib.2.1344543212771; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.139.253] (46.189.101.84.rev.sfr.net. [84.101.189.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu1sm3548132wib.6.2012.08.09.13.13.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Damien Saucez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:13:28 +0200 Message-Id: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> To: LISP mailing list list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Benoit Donnet Subject: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:13:34 -0000 Hello, We finally had no time to briefly present a measurement campaign we made on the mapping system. The slides are on http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-lisp-8.pdf and I invite you to comment. As you certainly know, the mapping system has been migrated to LISP-DDT with success on 3/14/2012. As the migration was planed, we have decided to measure it! To do so, we used vantage points around the world in different network types (EID space, commercial Internet, research Internet...). These vantage points have measured for a period of about one month the mapping system. To do so, they have send a Map-Request for all the EID prefixes with lig, and this every 15 minutes. We expected to observe a big difference of delay and mappings between ALT and DDT. However, the result we obtain is that the change is not very significant. There is no particular loss of map-Request/Map-Reply during the transition and the delay is not significantly increased or reduced. However, we observe a much more variable delay now with DDT than before where delays were very stable with time. After these measurements, we looked at the long term trends in the mapping system thanks to lispmon. The general trend is that the number of mapping increases (and more particularly the negative mappings) and that very few mappings use several RLOCs. Looking at this. This work is very brief and only show basic results, however, it raises two interesting questions. First, how can we make the DDT retrieval delay more stable (maybe it is just a question of organisation and trafic). Second, can we imagine to simplify the mappings such a way that all the complexity of mappings with the priority, weight, R-bit... is there only when necessary? I am looking forward for your comments, Damien Saucez From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Thu Aug 9 13:26:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F100221F86AD for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.307 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.292, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M3bt13kkShs5 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7532D21F8606 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 9515718C0F3; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:26:35 -0400 (EDT) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20120809202635.9515718C0F3@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: benoit.donnet@ulg.ac.be, jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:26:37 -0000 > From: Damien Saucez > However, we observe a much more variable delay now with DDT than before > where delays were very stable with time. Is this variation for a single MR<->{something} interaction, or is this the overall time from i) an ITR needing a mappping to ii) it getting the mapping? If the latter, it makes sense that there is more variation. Previously, the Map-Request was sent over the ALT (via the ALT's root, in almost all cases) to the ETR, and then the reply came back. Not a lot to vary there (although the path from the root to the Map-Server would vary a bit). Now, depending on how the delegation tree is configured (i.e. how many layers from the root to the Map-Server for the mapping in question), how many of those delegations are cached in the Map-Resolver the ITR is talking to, etc you would expect to see a certain amount of variation. Noel From damien.saucez@uclouvain.be Thu Aug 9 13:36:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C621F86F9 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.182 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.182 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RxyiQMmeEMMm for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B31E21F86F8 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,742,1336341600"; d="scan'208";a="152789594" Received: from 9.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net (HELO [172.16.139.253]) ([86.69.82.9]) by mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 09 Aug 2012 22:36:33 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: <20120809202635.9515718C0F3@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:36:33 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120809202635.9515718C0F3@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> To: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: benoit.donnet@ulg.ac.be, lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:36:37 -0000 Noel, On 09 Aug 2012, at 22:26, jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: >> From: Damien Saucez >=20 >> However, we observe a much more variable delay now with DDT than = before >> where delays were very stable with time. >=20 > Is this variation for a single MR<->{something} interaction, or is = this the > overall time from i) an ITR needing a mappping to ii) it getting the = mapping? > If the latter, it makes sense that there is more variation. It's the average delay among all the EID retrieved at the given time = from the vantage point. >=20 > Previously, the Map-Request was sent over the ALT (via the ALT's root, = in > almost all cases) to the ETR, and then the reply came back. Not a lot = to vary > there (although the path from the root to the Map-Server would vary a = bit). >=20 > Now, depending on how the delegation tree is configured (i.e. how many = layers > from the root to the Map-Server for the mapping in question), how many = of > those delegations are cached in the Map-Resolver the ITR is talking = to, etc > you would expect to see a certain amount of variation. >=20 agree, we therefore need to figure out where to place DDT nodes, how = much the (root) nodes must be replicated, and how deep the tree must be to = achieve stable and low delays. Damien Saucez > Noel From ljakab@ac.upc.edu Thu Aug 9 18:21:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891FA21F85CC for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oKRXhva8hAFe for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A759121F857E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.ac.upc.edu (gw.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.3]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7A1LiFv024109 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:21:44 +0200 Received: from [10.154.213.19] (128-107-239-233.cisco.com [128.107.239.233]) by gw.ac.upc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AE26B024A for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50246225.20409@ac.upc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:21:41 -0700 From: Lori Jakab Organization: UPC/BarcelonaTECH MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> OpenPGP: url=http://personals.ac.upc.edu/ljakab/lorand.jakab.pub.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:21:47 -0000 On 08/09/12 13:13, Damien Saucez wrote: > After these measurements, we looked at the long term trends in > the mapping system thanks to lispmon. The general trend is that > the number of mapping increases (and more particularly the > negative mappings) and that very few mappings use several > RLOCs. Looking at this. One of the reasons for more negative mappings may be some operational changes that happened first on the ALT, and then the way DDT works. When I started monitoring the beta network, all the 153.16.0.0/16 prefix was considered EID space, and a Map-Request would either return a positive reply, or nothing at all. Only queries outside 153.16/16 returned forward-native. At one point that changed, and depending on active registrations, negative Map-Replies were returned from within that block. And with DDT, I think there is even more granular information about prefix status. -Lori From terry.manderson@icann.org Sun Aug 12 23:08:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7083211E808D for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:08:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9PhM4Wqo0jTI for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956FA11E8072 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:08:26 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:08:25 -0700 Thread-Topic: Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 Thread-Index: Ac15GgyIHLFT3YYGiky+ddstAl9NJg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3427718905_43601889" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:08:28 -0000 --B_3427718905_43601889 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following documents to be adopted as WG items. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the following charter item: - Architecture description: This document will describe the architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation of the protocol. Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the item. If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or review, (or both) the drafts. Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. 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terry.manderson@icann.org Sun Aug 12 23:09:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EE711E8072 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.458 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.458 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.141, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zv+LWdGBq4hm for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5875F11E8097 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:02 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:01 -0700 Thread-Topic: Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Thread-Index: Ac15GiH9sjNDAotm8EibaoZD/2z9Rw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3427718941_43619180" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:09:02 -0000 --B_3427718941_43619180 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be adopted as a WG item. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the item. If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or review, (or both) the draft. Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. 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Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:22 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:09:21 -0700 Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 Thread-Index: Ac15Gi3pzIoHIt+IhkysY3NEb1NzCw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3427718961_43609175" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lisp] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:09:23 -0000 --B_3427718961_43609175 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have requested a work group last call. Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will end on Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. You will find its text here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. 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Vince Fuller To: Terry Manderson Message-ID: <20120813065029.GA38015@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:50:30 -0000 > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: > > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol. > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. Accept documents. Have already contributed to and reviewed both drafts; willing to do further work in that area. --Vince From damien.saucez@gmail.com Mon Aug 13 00:39:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB3D21F8687 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TBH5OXgzdkJL for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6010A21F8639 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so2081831wgb.13 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=mzliGjTwjzbnj72T/AV75mCWRoikQt5r1LlWrlPd19I=; b=fyxh+kPABClrnQL4do3e3Ab8lR6bc66ql0n49W+xdpiChnsUns9l9UtI7yhXCRxMYW nH8mYuK9i6nxdwJZ+3WlNUoOvmurCHacrC/MSAgyZo3gfZTctsFeyQUnNzHF0KIWfuOf FEQgQkptFLJOpYNBqSvdZcFN21pTepMUh7zYUeFFEBnX2TTw6dsDqoh0JWLuNbLKT72Z saayxpGvsu8h3m6JbnjqZYz9EYOBdiDqJKvKapDdf34xs0D+BcwKlwhA6yPNExEkKBBI xX5iVbeSu2uDRdgbCRef9qaUfq4XudvGPpjeaOIoFqnq3bwB4vlmNonutq9uMwy1NtfV qb4g== Received: by 10.180.84.1 with SMTP id u1mr16186623wiy.15.1344843587545; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faucon.inria.fr (faucon.inria.fr. [138.96.201.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm21923766wiz.7.2012.08.13.00.39.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:39:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <51810683-AF3E-413B-B257-E83DF78C1704@gmail.com> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:39:49 -0000 Hello, I accept this draft to be WG item. Willing to review. Damien Saucez On 13 Aug 2012, at 08:09, Terry Manderson = wrote: >=20 > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document = to be > adopted as a WG item. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, = please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From ggx@gigix.net Mon Aug 13 01:28:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FB321F8512 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IwQGkaVsmVEC for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5431A21F8501 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so2482054wib.13 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=c5/QXIdOsbAAC8paxacFWoHkq6bzyVukTTN8wM+srFw=; b=MHAiP0L3+lZB77NQVZr6JigNw3V/wGzsAyJVF+hQgCMj9uNKjTK+pvZ/le9W0lHNqy Ifi7drS+psM7v1M3Ejnvx9L7kDnaLa9t2XMEED/jTMZ06gS8DznQyKwafJEdAeUfgZis FEM6Od624RwHJMOzq0MZku1YI6Lcje2y1c6PD/HXg911mOfz7M9eZjovSdepZoaYLFut UgasJlQdgw/XRS19WzyIAoc/I08hjefp+Khg1txKkhIDdPlncOHAkw6R2AzjU6z7ixmt lTUJBUCxhE7jNf7AcGSlWM270gN43eEwmTpfuNPCq2gGhasaYVLAICc0gAKHCgDgTtgM HrnA== Received: by 10.180.80.134 with SMTP id r6mr16574267wix.1.1344846519667; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp164-03.enst.fr (dhcp164-03.enst.fr. [137.194.165.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu1sm15274526wib.6.2012.08.13.01.28.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:28:37 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkd7BVx4mW32SvcP2kP9ua5iMv+jL+ShKFKfaH/nJqoQChJJa/H2tYZHVOy/JBwOP3CPpzT Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:28:42 -0000 Hi, I am in favor of adopting the documents. I read the documents and I think they completely fulfill the charter = item. I will send comments very soon. Luigi On Aug 13, 2012, at 08:08 , Terry Manderson wrote: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction >=20 > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 >=20 > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would = satisfy the > following charter item: >=20 > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol.=20 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG = item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute = to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From ggx@gigix.net Mon Aug 13 01:29:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712021F86D7 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a4XazZIS5rDa for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CEE21F8501 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so2482624wib.13 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=T8PJH/zvjr/p891bTUFznNxejQhvqpqIh9p9TGE0gZA=; b=cMJRNiggc2pKXE+QLoM6hoJAtoyiCOhId/qkUgRJntyODZ4fM6K3e3zX6zzA00YP3M 71UiIuZbDUzTc9gXZFMaXpR5uW9Srt+RKyjuN9MVpe8i/C38+CA+kQMsiZaOX5PgvXZ9 5lzTZBUw9YV1R4yWNcBEoQ/6LDpYnYCLW51mq1N7O/SdQFWM+2/2BagyqcCZg6+2CQDV JFNCAaXGq5Tuz/E1mZ58w4e5orMgPAJE+L4ktN2k7Xi9Rl1BevH00Xy4zSHo7zKcJLez Zh2Kd4lqDaaAL7U96MNmo1AiL7QSCtSJqmtBASx3Ns1skCnZD8WilrqkCObW58RML971 M0oQ== Received: by 10.216.182.210 with SMTP id o60mr5261500wem.110.1344846585464; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp164-03.enst.fr (dhcp164-03.enst.fr. [137.194.165.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm22220795wix.6.2012.08.13.01.29.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:29:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlLtPob7sqq5hx7Q0SyPTc031V67XwaPDM78lUihD5ik30AFx1ZqGw2sWYDOGr7E9BEWdLI Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:29:47 -0000 I am in favor to adopt this document and will provide review. Luigi On Aug 13, 2012, at 08:09 , Terry Manderson wrote: >=20 > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document = to be > adopted as a WG item. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, = please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From damien.saucez@gmail.com Mon Aug 13 01:39:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5DD21F86CF for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.061 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.061 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.188, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ypd8It5+Sd4l for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BD721F86CB for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so2487809wib.13 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=70iOJlYelbGHdAMqbuECmIN7Gsdtcv1IZ3lwrxHQ91w=; b=l3l82+9wyP/cYc3a8BnUAxtVzmSan0PdJ8ilZqZqfP3v4sjmf4qDvoL25DONLSZttd Cuy0nhYfdWsp2RjExQrkFC+2iw2lyvKZDB6t2yvCDKxxD/+nLfTeOkW2+ac2NGyu/UOu rZPdKvXyijWXQ5ZZaBKTAQtP+ESXW138/VB1kfJ2KdLOKWKXx4FRMkgnvOap4U6ZxbUt +QzfUYv5GjqwDlEdqwth/TC45zbHs9PmypGlo1sZ337PQaHwH08YIdorrMM/D/odV4Ho dER2ljwYbJbQ1mu5LzUKDGUDSRPIpxeOgfUQV5vkWN+271NYnI1VLsM5mCPsy3z3AQdF SAEw== Received: by 10.180.78.4 with SMTP id x4mr16573559wiw.19.1344847144214; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faucon.inria.fr (faucon.inria.fr. [138.96.201.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm15321622wiz.4.2012.08.13.01.39.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:39:05 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6234672C-A8F0-4379-B83B-65D37C7C0BC6@gmail.com> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:39:06 -0000 Hello, I accept this draft to become WG document. Willing to contribute and to review. Regards, Damien Saucez On 13 Aug 2012, at 08:08, Terry Manderson = wrote: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction >=20 > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 >=20 > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would = satisfy the > following charter item: >=20 > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol.=20 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG = item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute = to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From fcoras@ac.upc.edu Mon Aug 13 02:24:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6260621F8734 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gzsk50dgpD06 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED6521F8732 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.ac.upc.edu (gw.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.3]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7D9OQww023247; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:26 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (233.pool85-58-61.dynamic.orange.es [85.58.61.233]) by gw.ac.upc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19126B0094; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5028C7C6.8010108@ac.upc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:22 +0200 From: Florin Coras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120724 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:24:31 -0000 Hi, I'm in favor of adopting both documents as WG items. Willing to contribute and provide review. Florin On 08/13/2012 08:08 AM, Terry Manderson wrote: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: > > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol. > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From fcoras@ac.upc.edu Mon Aug 13 02:24:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE0021F873E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KlRDurIvzpfW for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BAF21F873B for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.ac.upc.edu (gw.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.3]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7D9OWYJ023250; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:32 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (233.pool85-58-61.dynamic.orange.es [85.58.61.233]) by gw.ac.upc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3D6B0094; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5028C7CF.7070103@ac.upc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:24:31 +0200 From: Florin Coras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120724 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:24:35 -0000 Hi, I'm in favor of adopting this draft as WG item. Will provide review. Florin On 08/13/2012 08:09 AM, Terry Manderson wrote: > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From olivier.bonaventure@uclouvain.be Mon Aug 13 02:28:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36A221F873B for ; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uclouvain.be; s=selucl; t=1344850119; bh=n+4zX5uRkemMPgLt6fAIazdaj0NfN7BP5DT2cYcemwU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RUHcolFQXRNohY7xQl5QLDmYUdYGl4iPo+friiL+Fc6cT6UxgPEPG4tLwG0S9TRtr 367YCt3mzv3L3lO+8LqiATXAOdCZ4OBdhu7aOUuqyBwc4u4+MUXtYXR3EI9fay/8KK cHzYWk3VfsF0zhB2Qw4QxATdB8X9NdbtpKHbkS+U= Message-ID: <5028C8C6.4080703@uclouvain.be> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:28:38 +0200 From: Olivier Bonaventure User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3-exp at smtp-6.sipr-dc.ucl.ac.be X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Sgsi-Spamcheck: SASL authenticated, X-SGSI-MailScanner-ID: 2B83C1C5BB4.A14C9 X-SGSI-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SGSI-From: olivier.bonaventure@uclouvain.be X-SGSI-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:28:46 -0000 Terry, > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: I support both documents and will provide comments Olivier -- INL, ICTEAM, UCLouvain, Belgium, http://inl.info.ucl.ac.be From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 13 06:33:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C60821F875B for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:33:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.352 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.352 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.247, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ifER0Qw1V8Eq for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D004E21F874F for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id BB02C18C09F; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:32:58 -0400 (EDT) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20120813133258.BB02C18C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:33:00 -0000 > From: Luigi Iannone > I will send comments very soon. Comments will be most useful (and I look forward to them - assuming of course that that the WG decides to take these two up):. One minor thing to note; as I indicated when I first announced them: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp/current/msg03786.html These are rough drafts (and the second one is only partially complete), so as I indicated in that message: we're not (yet) at the 'detailed editorial comments' stage - although if anyone reads it, and has high-level comments (e.g. 'you ought to talk about topic X', or 'it would be better if you talked about P before you get to Q'), I would be most grateful for, and interested in, hearing things like that. I tend to fiddle with text details extensively, so at the detail level there will have been lots of changes before the next draft version. After that, then we'll be ready for the detailed editorial comments! :-) Noel From gschudel@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 07:19:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B402621F86EA for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:19:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DXs0BcsuY5d6 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A33B21F8527 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=gschudel@cisco.com; l=1434; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344867556; x=1346077156; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Uax2wepo0ZJ3VdWKt8Vz82g/o98tSRlSloAaazuoD7s=; b=Qay3YF63HCvK8k71euIFYTzLAe+9yu3bT3GwfdF8vGK7QsauMn+IUC8S nw0MgaXlby3aGSoxYz+yVdd57DwNG0em1dUeb01gDdh1/iuFhECcm7PbE iBTFBS6IaRYYA1mZX5TKYBCkl4T8U6JnkQD0v0KMmSm91VrjGQ/ll84Bt 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAI8MKVCtJXHA/2dsb2JhbABCA7oFgQeCIAEBAQQBAQEPAQobNgEJEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBFTAGAQwGAgEBHodrC5djoA2LEoMQgyEDiBk1jH2BFI0WgWaCf4E/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,759,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="111018556" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 14:19:15 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com [173.37.183.78]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DEJFhE001113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:19:15 GMT Received: from sjc-vpn2-261.cisco.com (10.21.113.5) by xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com (173.37.183.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:19:15 -0500 Message-ID: <50290CE1.6080905@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:19:13 -0700 From: Gregg Schudel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: , Terry Manderson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.21.113.5] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19108.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--20.334200-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:19:16 -0000 Hello, I am in favor to adopt this draft to be WG item. I am willing to review and provide comments. cheers gregg On 8/12/12 23:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- .:|:.:|:. | gregg schudel (ccie#9591) LISP technical mrkting engr cisco | mobile: +1 571 332 2222 email: gschudel@cisco.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- cisco corporate legal statement: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From dino@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 08:14:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9C21F86D0 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9e6gyqog+VGk for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5288021F8731 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=dino@cisco.com; l=962; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344870880; x=1346080480; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Y2xzF28BTa5WM8fv6Xg7/wFaACwpejKZhu99yrrW+qg=; b=HwIh8W++yOsd87njMMDpcwVniir6STg9ypzSuqzUcOMmoPWuiD0TICpK 6BXVjJ05jMCE06ZmHmy2rzTZGbuHr3qNTSXviK3ZgCPT+F+HjOwzLXhO8 /qjyVazM4zgdxfqdgP6KJ6rSG5+PpGmx43qT5SuKtsB+nvLabp0tcv+fd U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAHAYKVCrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABFhTq0S4EHgiABAQEDAQEBAQ8BCh00AQoQC0YnMAYTIodlBQyXfKAbixKFUWADiE6MfYEUhEiIToFmgn+BPw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,761,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="54941757" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 15:14:34 +0000 Received: from [10.21.86.54] ([10.21.86.54]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DFEXOe013115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:14:33 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:32 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6958FA51-79AB-41EE-AADD-5F7E32349F5D@cisco.com> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:14:41 -0000 I support this draft to be WG item. Dino On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson = wrote: >=20 > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document = to be > adopted as a WG item. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, = please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From dino@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 08:14:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A4321F87A3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u3yiCd-L-tRl for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFC021F87A2 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=dino@cisco.com; l=684; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344870885; x=1346080485; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=QEEwqugj6GyOFI/SC5vA9NBtOEduzEgBcXqjx70Azmk=; b=kAh/ih7PHq6I3jT6SOsEZEbF/0TtSJ/HZ0kP7SbsQoYiSMy75iVfeHa5 8BP5x4gu4LHXiBygcZhN0F/5TAmz4oXuxbp4PBCZ9Cjsqgd0+k03wpHtn iEPvpSqTYgHGmSglJEZYu7RE2w+eJfps5X6kQ2aTrcuZBlgZ4z2nG6Gfq o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAHAYKVCrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABFhTq0S4EHgiABAQEDAQEBAQ8BCh00AQoFCwtGJzAGEyKHZQUMl3ygG4sShVFgA4hOjH2BFIRIiE6BZoJ/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,761,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="52370397" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 15:14:44 +0000 Received: from [10.21.86.54] ([10.21.86.54]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DFEXOf013115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:14:44 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:14:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <61B3106F-C0BF-421C-AB96-38A1BCC9CE8A@cisco.com> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:14:46 -0000 I support this draft to be WG item. Dino On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson = wrote: > As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have > requested a work group last call. >=20 > Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will = end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > You will find its text here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 >=20 > Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. >=20 > Cheers > Terry > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From fmaino@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 09:47:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E6F21F8652 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLhtnOOEgfah for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D380721F8639 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fmaino@cisco.com; l=4414; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344876442; x=1346086042; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to; bh=X0fsPaz+tFi3Dwx6oozAezenORa1uh0DSmbyZCOl79U=; b=R2aGrgNBlTayU5TKEgS8rDfNWxuV/sPpzW83K/FUVVDiYvuIVI2TkLrX zEW4lo7WHfCuEGSkfWA2F2m34OZoqE4eVQLH/HszLiI6+jrUdGfYn8SVE /8W0ZtUlatjw2fIxpCVg9Sxv9gv2LJJKwbz/3e7pcTC1smAEgTYfCr3S6 M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8FAHguKVCrRDoI/2dsb2JhbABFi1+uKIEHgiABAQEEAQEBDwEKUQEJEQsEDgYJFgQLCQMCAQIBFSIOEwYCAQEeh2oMmCSgKYsShjEDiE6MfYEUjRaBZoJ/gT8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,761,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="51835872" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 16:47:22 +0000 Received: from fmaino-mac-2.local ([10.21.73.11]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DGlMNV002950 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:47:22 GMT Message-ID: <50292F99.3060705@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:47:21 -0700 From: Fabio Maino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080006060806040909090401" Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:47:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080006060806040909090401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the acceptance of both documents, and I'm willing to review. Fabio On 8/12/12 11:08 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: > > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol. > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --------------080006060806040909090401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I support the acceptance of both documents, and I'm willing to review.

Fabio


On 8/12/12 11:08 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction

As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the
following documents to be adopted as WG items.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01

I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the
following charter item:

- Architecture description: This document will describe the
architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the
rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion
about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include
a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization
essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation
of the protocol. 

Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on
Tuesday the 28th August, 2012.

Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the
item.

If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item,
please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or
review, (or both) the drafts.

Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately.

Cheers
Terry




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--------------080006060806040909090401-- From vaf@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 09:57:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A463A21F8700 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.216 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.216 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.383, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nk4l7NzxIML1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A7821F86B3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=vaf@cisco.com; l=667; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344877029; x=1346086629; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=NfeBSHpt6za2cuerFiNCMXtdQBGQxVs72DGVBa8btjg=; b=CVeahEkz/zOq6NBYjlWQ9cl05MAzREpq1RFi5yk3HKmFkLDV7iF7QTFZ qdFX+bOY9b41BkeUqm1DvXMaGJMTlBbraVFLVY0hEVX+9//ik0ewedKhi sAgg+AMRDFVyAiO8Vo1GpWU6OI3czse5T5Js/+QeO4G2EarKmnwQ9IOlV g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAMMwKVCrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABFhTq0TYEHgiABAQEEEgEKHTUKEAsYLhQYMTWHagELmCWgKosShVFgA4hOjHyBFY0WgWaCf4E/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,761,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="54949085" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 16:57:07 +0000 Received: from vaf-mac1.cisco.com (vaf-mac1.cisco.com [128.107.165.254]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DGv70D021976; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:57:07 GMT Received: by vaf-mac1.cisco.com (Postfix, from userid 113818) id 3A11426D93E1; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:07 -0700 From: Vince Fuller To: Terry Manderson Message-ID: <20120813165707.GA41920@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:57:09 -0000 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:09:01PM -0700, Terry Manderson wrote: > > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. Accept document, willing to review (again) From hoefling@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Mon Aug 13 10:37:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A121F86E5 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HELO_MISMATCH_DE=1.448] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id afxzogtQzoOF for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx5.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 60E1D21F86E4 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B6852BE for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:37:01 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Received: from mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KRSTsgAlOyvS for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:36:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (zcs-bs.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.62]) by mx5.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589BD5132 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:36:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.0.65] (p5DDE6CD4.dip.t-dialin.net [93.222.108.212]) by zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C564C1A0F0 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:36:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50293B2F.20802@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:36:47 +0200 From: Michael Hoefling Organization: Unversity of Tuebingen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:37:16 -0000 I accept these drafts to become WG documents and I am willing to contribute and to review. Regards, Michael Am 13.08.2012 08:08, schrieb Terry Manderson: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: > > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol. > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > -- Dipl.-Inform. Michael Hoefling, M.Sc. University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70507, fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto: hoefling@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de/staff/hoefling From hoefling@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Mon Aug 13 10:39:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE50D21F86F5 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HELO_MISMATCH_DE=1.448] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ckdwSqtNk0IW for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx3.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F1A8521F86F1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFA95331 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:43 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZhMcDBXmkb4z for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (zcs-bs.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.62]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB41C5325 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.0.65] (p5DDE6CD4.dip.t-dialin.net [93.222.108.212]) by zcs-bs.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422CA4C1A11D for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50293BD6.5050204@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:34 +0200 From: Michael Hoefling Organization: Unversity of Tuebingen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:39:46 -0000 I support this draft to be WG item. Regards, Michael Am 13.08.2012 08:09, schrieb Terry Manderson: > > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > -- Dipl.-Inform. Michael Hoefling, M.Sc. University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70507, fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto: hoefling@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de/staff/hoefling From job@instituut.net Mon Aug 13 10:41:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F6321F85F9 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blUQuZ6lQ0NB for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AD221F8514 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eekb45 with SMTP id b45so1064442eek.31 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=dwn4ZCSWWGoN4EpE14DFjRAN8wm2bYip/Ek2zDKBj9I=; b=WnksVvBk+dK5XUdbLSAt2p/i+2slPL3rPLEn9BkYVJzzsuw/ZLtAwfCwPVgadhxhNb oRfpqGNw4oBZpvZ2AWjIf21YXp65azKeKvCdSmLIkmln4cjU2bxlmIpoAZVp6DnN2xQZ 9qefoPCSHCnHjL8MxlDtbGsfNJhMVNQmSKdgUnYtNJRyRmiVpEgYPMML87DXHARtb9B8 iTl+iSTwkjJx6WCZdMNjAGsA6dkGamYf9/foL0waXHhsD1uoTSn5shKakQ7bXP4NFbUj 8bIJsz4POlVl8+f7JYRdqtFopP+Bn7oTL76AoQRH54RIJMSk+c4EmJ6aoRwpAmfYBLQ/ SNcA== Received: by 10.14.179.200 with SMTP id h48mr15313510eem.12.1344879667028; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.184.184.28] ([85.184.184.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h42sm230753eem.5.2012.08.13.10.41.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Job Snijders In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:41:02 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <464BA261-DA0F-4DE1-83E5-B8C19884AD88@instituut.net> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlwbcBiv/HmNQ38MRAVFLojWl0os0MrfHXB8YTmShlNKZ7RL8qoy3rlD0f7DvJ6B5iqk32w Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:41:08 -0000 Hi, On 13 aug. 2012, at 08:09, Terry Manderson wrote: > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. Accept, can, have and will contribute. 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Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:44:10 -0500 From: "Michael Kowal (mikowal)" To: Terry Manderson Thread-Topic: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Thread-Index: AQHNeXs8bHsMuq3mzE+cNBkc+7tGUQ== Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:44:07 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51810683-AF3E-413B-B257-E83DF78C1704@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.86.244.198] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19108.006 x-tm-as-result: No--40.153700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:44:20 -0000 In favor of adopting this draft to be a WG item and willing to review/comment. >On 13 Aug 2012, at 08:09, Terry Manderson >wrote: > >>=20 >> In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document >>to be >> adopted as a WG item. >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >>=20 >> Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on >> Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >>=20 >> Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, >>the >> item. >>=20 >> If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, >>please >> also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or >> review, (or both) the draft. >>=20 >> Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond >>appropriately. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Terry >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From fmaino@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 10:49:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9224621F8627 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the draft and I'm willing to review. Fabio On 8/12/12 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --------------040809060705060006070500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I support the draft and I'm willing to review.

Fabio

On 8/12/12 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be
adopted as a WG item.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10

Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on
Tuesday the 28th August, 2012.

Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the
item.

If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please
also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or
review, (or both) the draft.

Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately.

Cheers
Terry




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--------------040809060705060006070500-- From vaf@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 13:18:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929F721F8629 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.288, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kGIO5vxAbWdL for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B1021F85FF for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:18:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=vaf@cisco.com; l=2135; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344889122; x=1346098722; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=3wdgr3cEgm22Emq5v6s+LSCUpQfyi8+WPWuAFhhlGlM=; b=ToF2EuwOhKaIzIV3JdUnY81ijwlRuB9KFRm1binXGXG+pOEG6JUODTi5 x2Wiu6y6MNTkBJDbOIqgmhafE2wR05Mp/t11l78YBdzMHAL/5aSjR+9qJ C5kixjZzDtwdpF9GTUYzAzWvcDOnZOu3kBDJR+L24M2M6JjVKEQqi9M6y A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAONfKVCrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABFugaBB4IgAQEBAwESASc/BQsLRhQYMTWHZQUBmDOgV4sShVFgA4hOjHyOK4Fmgn8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,761,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="51852699" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 20:18:40 +0000 Received: from vaf-mac1.cisco.com (vaf-mac1.cisco.com [128.107.165.254]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DKIeuL001421; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:18:40 GMT Received: by vaf-mac1.cisco.com (Postfix, from userid 113818) id CB0F326DB2CF; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:18:40 -0700 From: Vince Fuller To: Damien Saucez Message-ID: <20120813201840.GA43752@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> References: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Benoit Donnet , LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:18:43 -0000 > As you certainly know, the mapping system has been migrated > to LISP-DDT with success on 3/14/2012. As the migration was > planed, we have decided to measure it! To do so, we used > vantage points around the world in different network types (EID > space, commercial Internet, research Internet...). These vantage > points have measured for a period of about one month the > mapping system. To do so, they have send a Map-Request > for all the EID prefixes with lig, and this every 15 minutes. > We expected to observe a big difference of delay and mappings > between ALT and DDT. However, the result we obtain is that > the change is not very significant. There is no particular loss > of map-Request/Map-Reply during the transition and the delay > is not significantly increased or reduced. However, we observe > a much more variable delay now with DDT than before where > delays were very stable with time. Hi Damien- Thanks for the interesting analysis. I'll offer a simple explanation for why lookup delay on the pilot network has become more variable with the deployment of DDT: we have a somewhat pathalogical configuration on the pilot network. In particular, the pilot DDT topology includes regional DDT Map Servers in that can accept registrations from every ETR in a region. The ETRs in the region, though, are only configured to register to a subset of the DDT Map Servers in that region. When a DDT Map Request is sent to a DDT Map Server that doesn't have a particular ETR registered, a Map-Referral message with action code "MS-NOT-REGISTERED" is returned, which causes the requestor to re-try to a different DDT Map Server in the current referral set and results in at least one additional DDT message round-trip-time. This "misconfiguration" is deliberate and is in place for internal testing and configuration management purposes. Such a configuration would not be used on a "real world" network so variable lookup performance on the pilot network should not be considered representative of how things would work in operational deployment. Hope this helps. --Vince From damien.saucez@gmail.com Mon Aug 13 13:35:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5607F21F8645 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kbZtMfhwa70R for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3FA21F8622 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so3307888wgb.1 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=zStSJnjM5bw5ANwaycKfp7O03H1wuSG4m+8VS5yRNCQ=; b=gpmQizEmaD68ooiATDO+DQiMSWykD8KnkFB4gdOVQGoYVwcOpbjW2ueQ8jIuthjF5u NEIZ7xj/1fqim5jr420n1dVXy2Dv+HOugncHS0rTyqhj0BCk5h0tuocltnDdMAzLK2xw 3ZEluZZ7haTKb/nXrj2wgDaCmPEl+x2NLbQa2ZmcXytQxpDRgnBQVrIY1w1chO9RRItO cZWT/5zhHNAFLNcXr2wx8TB81ag4GqpF9ivJJuP4TzVcXB1+WsXEPghiwckiRNjQaK6z bHg+UQWJVaZjaa15O746QGzFAsgT6BOQ+8+hCMFDrUbPOCw6GEp8CKkMa6zte26MfXrP 09Pw== Received: by 10.180.82.39 with SMTP id f7mr21390434wiy.2.1344890134453; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.139.253] (14.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net. [86.69.82.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k20sm18392133wiv.11.2012.08.13.13.35.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: <20120813201840.GA43752@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:35:31 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <676B8E7F-87E9-4AC9-B43E-454E82DCF0CE@gmail.com> References: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> <20120813201840.GA43752@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> To: Vince Fuller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Benoit Donnet , LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:35:36 -0000 Hello Vince, That makes a sense. Is this publicly documented somewhere? Damien Saucez Damien Saucez On 13 Aug 2012, at 22:18, Vince Fuller wrote: >> As you certainly know, the mapping system has been migrated >> to LISP-DDT with success on 3/14/2012. As the migration was >> planed, we have decided to measure it! To do so, we used >> vantage points around the world in different network types (EID >> space, commercial Internet, research Internet...). These vantage >> points have measured for a period of about one month the >> mapping system. To do so, they have send a Map-Request >> for all the EID prefixes with lig, and this every 15 minutes. >> We expected to observe a big difference of delay and mappings >> between ALT and DDT. However, the result we obtain is that >> the change is not very significant. There is no particular loss >> of map-Request/Map-Reply during the transition and the delay >> is not significantly increased or reduced. However, we observe >> a much more variable delay now with DDT than before where >> delays were very stable with time. > > Hi Damien- > > Thanks for the interesting analysis. > > I'll offer a simple explanation for why lookup delay on the pilot network > has become more variable with the deployment of DDT: we have a somewhat > pathalogical configuration on the pilot network. In particular, the pilot > DDT topology includes regional DDT Map Servers in that can accept > registrations from every ETR in a region. The ETRs in the region, though, > are only configured to register to a subset of the DDT Map Servers in that > region. When a DDT Map Request is sent to a DDT Map Server that doesn't > have a particular ETR registered, a Map-Referral message with action code > "MS-NOT-REGISTERED" is returned, which causes the requestor to re-try to > a different DDT Map Server in the current referral set and results in > at least one additional DDT message round-trip-time. > > This "misconfiguration" is deliberate and is in place for internal testing > and configuration management purposes. Such a configuration would not be > used on a "real world" network so variable lookup performance on the pilot > network should not be considered representative of how things would work > in operational deployment. > > Hope this helps. > > --Vince From jgs@juniper.net Mon Aug 13 14:32:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E021F84EC for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.177 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.177 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.178, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qrgUxKYPw43b for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og120.obsmtp.com (exprod7og120.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23E21F84E4 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob120.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUClyYu93YXqoIvo6Gc2q0uNBQJyGPm+K@postini.com; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:39 PDT Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:31:03 -0700 Received: from [172.16.13.202] ([172.16.13.202]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id q7DLV0h08644; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "John G. Scudder" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:30:59 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <228CFDA2-FF0B-4D27-AC5A-FEA63E8A1D75@juniper.net> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:32:42 -0000 Terry, The draft documents, among other things, use of LISP for l3vpn (S. 4.1) = and l2vpn (S. 4.12.2). Neither of these appear related to the WG charter = ("The LISP WG is chartered to continue work on the LISP base protocol, = completing the ongoing work, and any items which directly impact LISP = protocol structures and which are related to using LISP for improving = Internet routing scalability.") --John On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Terry Manderson wrote: >=20 > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document = to be > adopted as a WG item. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >=20 > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >=20 > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the > item. >=20 > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, = please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. >=20 > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From vaf@cisco.com Mon Aug 13 14:38:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4076B21F84E6 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:38:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.369 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.369 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.230, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JToJfiNqYjWK for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bgl-iport-2.cisco.com (bgl-iport-2.cisco.com [72.163.197.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D83D21F84D2 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:38:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=vaf@cisco.com; l=225; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1344893915; x=1346103515; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=4nDkx81wwA1Al6p9AkEeYP3yrWQMbWhoJz3i64xcI5c=; b=PjRd/vlYaHybbA7DCIGry+j5A3euFIm01h7KNgsNXATV3yohthk+JtDK SteVehwRiRTAHiRXm0WTO5sDBLdLAk4p3YBXzLs92w4ArRJLdhYkua1h8 EFP9fXtn7GgzyYfQPFDl8Ug61VkgvelGcIBE2xZm0CU2n2P/j21epIKmE k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EACpzKVBIo8UY/2dsb2JhbABFuxGCIAEBAQMBEgEnPwULC0YUGDE1h2UGmCugYZBjYAOITox8jiuBZoJ/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,762,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="16012920" Received: from vla196-nat.cisco.com (HELO bgl-core-2.cisco.com) ([72.163.197.24]) by bgl-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 21:38:33 +0000 Received: from vaf-mac1.cisco.com (vaf-mac1.cisco.com [128.107.165.254]) by bgl-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7DLcWTM002940; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:38:33 GMT Received: by vaf-mac1.cisco.com (Postfix, from userid 113818) id 2BE7F26DBE1B; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:38:32 -0700 From: Vince Fuller To: Damien Saucez Message-ID: <20120813213832.GA44130@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> References: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> <20120813201840.GA43752@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> <676B8E7F-87E9-4AC9-B43E-454E82DCF0CE@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <676B8E7F-87E9-4AC9-B43E-454E82DCF0CE@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Benoit Donnet , LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:38:36 -0000 > That makes a sense. > > Is this publicly documented somewhere? No, and I don't see much of a reason to document a test configuration that we explicitly *don't* recommend for use by operational networks. --Vince From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 13 15:25:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72A221F86F6 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.06 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.06 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.061, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kwySKfWWbXmu for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754F721F86F2 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 5EF7318C0E8; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:25:31 -0400 (EDT) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20120813222531.5EF7318C0E8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:25:33 -0000 > From: "John G. Scudder" > The draft documents, among other things, use of LISP for l3vpn (S. 4.1) > and l2vpn (S. 4.12.2). N either of these appear related to the WG charter Those are just two minor uses - what about all the other ones? Anyway, do you have a better suggestion for a WG to use to define a core LISP namespace? Noel From damien.saucez@gmail.com Mon Aug 13 15:35:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43421F8697 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DfLfGOYwd5t3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF2B21F8669 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so3254921wey.31 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Uo9aRhoAX6Lyy8gNX9IsmULqL6PQzplXo9Ou9ALfqK8=; b=jqfpRnjK5emk0f2SUMDxRl4r3ubV9JJ1wLSZGOO85CvQPznFoWMUIkXugvdBFi5fKp 95W4TdGfwd6mT28CG/bQmpEn+pw+ASFapLcAljDF8TMgqMQj/wuvG0rUDL54wMsuCgZn LD9HlzVoA44hczCHunwZYBKgNjj3ynTugzMqj8BvoG49nD5AA5FioW+5owedcYTKMCUh KMRCeFecj0QIfkZSWhSiQ3OtttWOIK6fWt+zmZ9D+0ObdU36/fkJaDxatppI3yzJjGzy rl60bT8W08IFqdlG2+GgJNE43pHhGI96JnHXCTIoGvjlS5+5X9/KBO5Ehu7AGLnwVv4B veAQ== Received: by 10.180.84.104 with SMTP id x8mr22047708wiy.20.1344897304700; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.139.253] (14.82.69.86.rev.sfr.net. [86.69.82.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z11sm27475135wiv.10.2012.08.13.15.35.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: <20120813213832.GA44130@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:35:01 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <23D940D7-8996-46DE-8EA7-4E4876001066@gmail.com> References: <0131C52A-B54C-4EEE-9C4A-D623FF00D7D2@gmail.com> <20120813201840.GA43752@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> <676B8E7F-87E9-4AC9-B43E-454E82DCF0CE@gmail.com> <20120813213832.GA44130@vaf-mac1.cisco.com> To: Vince Fuller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: Benoit Donnet , LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Mapping system observations X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:35:06 -0000 On 13 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Vince Fuller wrote: >> That makes a sense. >> >> Is this publicly documented somewhere? > > No, and I don't see much of a reason to document a test configuration that > we explicitly *don't* recommend for use by operational networks. > Sure, but as we are using the beta network, it might help to understand observations if there is a place where we can have a bit of information about the configurations. I usually looked at the rancid, but now the network is too large for me to manually check what is happening. Thanks, Damien Saucez > --Vince From terry.manderson@icann.org Mon Aug 13 17:58:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D678221F875A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.176 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h3PCThbgr9MS for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C57321F8746 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:40 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: "John G. Scudder" Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:38 -0700 Thread-Topic: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Thread-Index: Ac15myvPyM4doD6PTQGkYMX/7BIV0AAHMRsK Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <228CFDA2-FF0B-4D27-AC5A-FEA63E8A1D75@juniper.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3427786718_44294226" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:58:41 -0000 --B_3427786718_44294226 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit John, The draft is a LISP control message data format document, it is not specifying the precise behaviors of l2/l3vpn over LISP. It enables those workgroups to have or work on solutions (should they so choose) that can be transported by LISP. There is no mandatory statements here to say they must. Just as the document describes a geo location (s4.4) LISP is the common denominator here. I do not see any value in splitting this one document into numerous different documents housed in many different workgroups. If this draft is accepted by the WG as a WG item, I will be advising the chairs of the other WGs that are implicated by the fact that LISP could be used as a transport, that a piece of work in LISP should be reviewed by them. I am allowing the call for adoption to go ahead. Thanks Terry On 14/08/12 7:30 AM, "John G. Scudder" wrote: > Terry, > > The draft documents, among other things, use of LISP for l3vpn (S. 4.1) and > l2vpn (S. 4.12.2). Neither of these appear related to the WG charter ("The > LISP WG is chartered to continue work on the LISP base protocol, completing > the ongoing work, and any items which directly impact LISP protocol structures > and which are related to using LISP for improving Internet routing > scalability.") > > --John > > On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:09 AM, Terry Manderson wrote: > >> >> In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be >> adopted as a WG item. >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >> >> Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on >> Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >> >> Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the >> item. >> >> If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please >> also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or >> review, (or both) the draft. >> >> Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond 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(exprod7og107.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.167]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3061121F869A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob107.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUDJAaU5KA9iU1KYJbsWjUz3oHDpeNdO8@postini.com; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:50:25 PDT Received: from magenta.juniper.net (172.17.27.123) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:47:30 -0700 Received: from juniper.net (sapphire.juniper.net [172.17.28.108]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id q7KDlTh68360; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yakov@juniper.net) Message-ID: <201208201347.q7KDlTh68360@magenta.juniper.net> To: Terry Manderson In-Reply-To: References: X-MH-In-Reply-To: Terry Manderson message dated "Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:58:38 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <34981.1345470448.1@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:47:28 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:50:25 -0000 Terry, > John, > > The draft is a LISP control message data format document, it is not > specifying the precise behaviors of l2/l3vpn over LISP. It enables those > workgroups to have or work on solutions (should they so choose) that can be > transported by LISP. There is no mandatory statements here to say they must. > Just as the document describes a geo location (s4.4) LISP is the common > denominator here. I do not see any value in splitting this one document into > numerous different documents housed in many different workgroups. Specifying encoding/format without specifying semantics is not going to produce multi-vendor interoperable implementations. Moreover, doing this would allow a vendor to label their solution as "based on IETF standards", effectively creating an end run to the IETF process. Given that, the WG should not accept the draft, as it defines a whole bunch of code points without any companion document that defines semantics of these code points. Yakov. From jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 20 10:43:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FB421F853B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.358 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.358 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.241, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71-ZsLIsTzhE for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF41121F853A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 707AB18C0BF; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:43:06 -0400 (EDT) To: lisp@ietf.org Message-Id: <20120820174306.707AB18C0BF@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:43:06 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Cc: jnc'@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:43:11 -0000 > From: Yakov Rekhter > Given that, the WG should not accept the draft, as it defines a whole > bunch of code points without any companion document that defines > semantics of these code points. If you're really determined to find something to whine about, I guess maybe we can just delete those code points for now? As soon as someone writes an ID which uses them, they can be re-allocated - and we'll let the IESG worry about which WG to assign that ID to. Noel From vimoreno@cisco.com Tue Aug 21 08:16:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE47221F8757 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0bYrnG+pf6Tt for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D45521F86C3 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 08:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=vimoreno@cisco.com; l=854; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1345562164; x=1346771764; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=LrA6C/7CLtwx6mLbfapC3exYxv9gnV7+WEh9KKM/+b8=; b=VG1X/cY3FuL6qYoFKNjFnLFytUXh1pMl/faFBnqZq1O/23vgJTTfFXtY BpTbknXvQPRxgWZBKE37fo8Lf+XMfYUf1FjvXC82GM4ZvimKiVpMfIK8q 2wslMCDBm/M534S2fPj15iJLliDDUKyovba1FdP8HOXhWzbbAFg2x0kS9 k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAI+lM1CtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABFhTq1KIEHgicSAQodNRwBCDZCJQEBBAESIodrC5kDoECLCIccA5VSgRSNGYFmgmGBYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,802,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="113797731" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2012 15:16:03 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7LFG3XO009159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:16:03 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.3.66]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:16:03 -0500 From: "Victor Moreno (vimoreno)" To: Terry Manderson , LISP mailing list list Thread-Topic: [MARKETING] [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Thread-Index: Ac15GiH9sjNDAotm8EibaoZD/2z9RwGhPloA Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:16:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 x-originating-ip: [10.19.19.179] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19128.005 x-tm-as-result: No--38.678700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:16:04 -0000 I support the adoption of this draft as a WG item, I am willing and able to review and contribute. Regards, Victor On 8/12/12 11:09 PM, "Terry Manderson" wrote: > >In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to >be >adopted as a WG item. > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > >Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on >Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > >Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, >the >item. > >If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, >please >also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or >review, (or both) the draft. > >Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond >appropriately. > >Cheers >Terry > From hannu.flinck@nsn.com Thu Aug 23 06:47:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CF921F85F4 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:47:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I8MahEqRHjQ2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C457121F85A5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q7NDlJMt031258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:47:20 +0200 Received: from demuexc023.nsn-intra.net (demuexc023.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.36]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q7NDlGqO014028; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:47:19 +0200 Received: from FIESEXC008.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.16]) by demuexc023.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:47:17 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:47:17 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120813133258.BB02C18C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 anddraft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 Thread-Index: Ac15WCx/MKo1ZH0rTZWOQz6LC3ZbAQH2akIw References: <20120813133258.BB02C18C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Flinck, Hannu (NSN - FI/Espoo)" To: "Noel Chiappa" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2012 13:47:17.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF5B7660:01CD8135] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 2972 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1345729640-00006F5F-3FAFF59E/0-0/0-0 Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 anddraft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:47:24 -0000 Hello Noel and others These drafts were very interesting readings. =20 I have some comments that you may consider: draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 Section economics you mention here "maximizing" the cost-benefit ratio. I believe we should minimize or optimize it. Section 4. Initial applications These may go a bit too far and some of the text maybe better positioned in the architecture draft rather than in the intro document. This is because that the base documents as such do not suffice for some of the applications you describe here: Traffic engineering and mobility and maybe IP version reciprocal traversal but needs extension on top of the base documents. And these extensions are not yet WG draft even.=20 Should we say something where in the network the LISP nodes/ devices are located (e.g. CPE, CE/PE etc)? Maybe whole section 7 Design approach is better at home in the architecture document. Note that you use terms node and device interchangeable (editorial). draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 I was wondering if draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-02.txt is worth mentioning in the relationship of sections 5.2 and 5.3? One editorial wording nit: "base station" is not a mobile ip term, and in cellular networks it has a certain meaning (@ radio level) that doesn't match what is meant here either. Instead mobile IP talks about "home agents" that know the original location. =20 Thank you for the documents. best regards Hannu -----Original Message----- From: lisp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 4:33 PM To: lisp@ietf.org Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 anddraft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > From: Luigi Iannone > I will send comments very soon. Comments will be most useful (and I look forward to them - assuming of course that that the WG decides to take these two up):. One minor thing to note; as I indicated when I first announced them: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp/current/msg03786.html These are rough drafts (and the second one is only partially complete), so as I indicated in that message: we're not (yet) at the 'detailed editorial comments' stage - although if anyone reads it, and has high-level comments (e.g. 'you ought to talk about topic X', or 'it would be better if you talked about P before you get to Q'), I would be most grateful for, and interested in, hearing things like that. I tend to fiddle with text details extensively, so at the detail level there will have been lots of changes before the next draft version. After that, then we'll be ready for the detailed editorial comments! :-) Noel _______________________________________________ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From terry.manderson@icann.org Tue Aug 28 16:28:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FFA11E80FF for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P6zyYYeLQ6Mg for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13D11E80E7 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:21 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:20 -0700 Thread-Topic: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 Thread-Index: Ac15GiH9sjNDAotm8EibaoZD/2z9RwMWq0Mz Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3429077300_62501897" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] Call for adoption of draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:28:22 -0000 --B_3429077300_62501897 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I view that there is consensus in the workgroup to adopt this draft as a work group item. Can the authors please submit a revision in the appropriate fashion. I'd also like to remind the authors that as a WG document I am expecting that any substantive document changes are the result of WG discussion. I would also like to call the WG's attention to the comments regarding code points for transport of other protocols and ask the WG to consider those comments in the process of developing this draft. Cheers Terry On 13/08/12 4:09 PM, "Terry Manderson" wrote: > > > In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document to be > adopted as a WG item. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, please > also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the draft. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > --B_3429077300_62501897 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIIQAQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIP8jCCD+4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC 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Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id arqgPl1pl3g0 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6611E810E for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:32 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:28:31 -0700 Thread-Topic: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 Thread-Index: Ac15GgyIHLFT3YYGiky+ddstAl9NJgMWskS1 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3429077311_62498701" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:28:34 -0000 --B_3429077311_62498701 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I view that there is consensus in the workgroup to adopt these drafts as work group items. Can the authors please submit a revision in the appropriate fashion. I'd also like to remind the authors that as a WG document I am expecting that any substantive document changes are the result of WG discussion. Cheers Terry On 13/08/12 4:08 PM, "Terry Manderson" wrote: > RE: LISP-Architecture & LISP-Introduction > > As you are aware, in Vancouver the chairs received a request for the > following documents to be adopted as WG items. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 > > I would like to note that these two documents, if adopted, would satisfy the > following charter item: > > - Architecture description: This document will describe the > architecture of the entire LISP system, making it easier to read the > rest of the LISP specifications and providing a basis for discussion > about the details of the LISP protocols. The document will include > a description of the cache management and ETR synchronization > essential characteristics needed to ensure the correct operation > of the protocol. > > Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, the this call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not accept, the > item. > > If you email to support the acceptance of these documents as a WG item, > please also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or > review, (or both) the drafts. > > Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond appropriately. > > Cheers > Terry > --B_3429077311_62498701 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIIQAQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIP8jCCD+4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC Dc0wggcDMIIF66ADAgECAhAPz2lJUZsAlD35l4oJxf0FMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJ 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amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.48 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.48 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.119, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PvGDjZKtlLFW for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B33611E80E7 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:29:11 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: LISP mailing list list Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:29:12 -0700 Thread-Topic: [lisp] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 Thread-Index: Ac15Gi3pzIoHIt+IhkysY3NEb1NzCwMWsAhI Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3429077352_62514546" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:29:13 -0000 --B_3429077352_62514546 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit WG, I have not seen any review nor comments made of this document in this WGLC by anyone in the WG. I am extending this last call by a further 14 days. The extended LC will end on Tuesday the 11th of September. Please WG, cast your eyes over this document, it cannot progress without adequate review! Cheers Terry On 13/08/12 4:09 PM, "Terry Manderson" wrote: > As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have > requested a work group last call. > > Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > You will find its text here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 > > Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. > > Cheers > Terry --B_3429077352_62514546 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIIQAQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIP8jCCD+4CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC Dc0wggcDMIIF66ADAgECAhAPz2lJUZsAlD35l4oJxf0FMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlVTMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxEaWdpQ2VydCBJbmMxGTAXBgNVBAsTEHd3dy5kaWdpY2Vy dC5jb20xITAfBgNVBAMTGERpZ2lDZXJ0IEFzc3VyZWQgSUQgQ0EtMTAeFw0xMjAzMjcwMDAw MDBaFw0xNTAzMjcxMjAwMDBaMIGsMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzETMBEGA1UECBMKQ2FsaWZvcm5p 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(ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UX3rv7bLzNpj for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 02:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sintact.nl (mail.sintact.nl [IPv6:2001:4038:0:16::7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998C21F8555 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 02:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2a00:8640:1::e167:e2c8:c195:932d] (unknown [IPv6:2a00:8640:1:0:e167:e2c8:c195:932d]) by mail.sintact.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6212005; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:35:31 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Sander Steffann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:35:30 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3A441BB0-B467-4670-891E-FC2DA81E6834@steffann.nl> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:35:34 -0000 Hi, > I have not seen any review nor comments made of this document in this = WGLC > by anyone in the WG. >=20 > I am extending this last call by a further 14 days. >=20 > The extended LC will end on Tuesday the 11th of September. Please WG, = cast > your eyes over this document, it cannot progress without adequate = review! I don't see anything wrong with the document. It would have been nice if = notifications had been defined, for example for (certain) changes to = lispEidRegistrationTable, lispMappingDatabaseTable and = lispMappingDatabaseLocatorTable. But everything that is defined in the = document looks good! Thanks, Sander From brian@innovationslab.net Thu Aug 30 05:59:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A904F21F85F7 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AluY9BQ4HVJF for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3742521F84C9 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789388090; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.local (nat-gwifi.jhuapl.edu [128.244.87.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A091130017; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:00:37 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [lisp] AD Review: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:59:10 -0000 All, As a part of the publication process, I have completed my initial review of draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block. The draft is well-written and concise and I thank you for that. The only suggestion I would make for this document is to drop the use of the 2119 language. It is only used in a few places and those uses are not really appropriate for 2119 language. I would suggest re-writing those guidelines with normal prose and drop the 2119 boilerplate from the document. Regards, Brian From brian@innovationslab.net Thu Aug 30 06:29:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2550C21F8619 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gr6sHyq6ySdR for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857C221F8611 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCE88808F; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.local (nat-gwifi.jhuapl.edu [128.244.87.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2047C130017; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <503F6B1A.3000104@innovationslab.net> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:31:06 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block@tools.ietf.org References: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> In-Reply-To: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] AD Review: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:29:39 -0000 Ok, so I typed too soon... On 8/30/12 9:00 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, > As a part of the publication process, I have completed my initial > review of draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block. The draft is well-written and > concise and I thank you for that. > > The only suggestion I would make for this document is to drop the > use of the 2119 language. It is only used in a few places and those > uses are not really appropriate for 2119 language. I would suggest > re-writing those guidelines with normal prose and drop the 2119 > boilerplate from the document. This draft would benefit from the addition of enhanced text on why a /16 is needed. What prefix lengths are expected to be allocated to end-sites? How many networks are expected to participate in this experiment? Should there be a termination date for this allocation? To get an idea of what IANA is expecting as far as supporting information for this type of allocation, I suggest a review of the IANA IPv6 Special Purpose Address Registry. http://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-special-registry.xml Regards, Brian From darlewis@cisco.com Thu Aug 30 10:58:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA84F21F85A8 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oEXxgwu32NTR for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638D121F85A7 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=darlewis@cisco.com; l=673; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1346349499; x=1347559099; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=CF1pLqoReqstzKYjVKuBRi6Y0HOyEGkvH5I3B7W7oyo=; b=hgY3zEgB8rfFUJRWahxd08311QHxTUhHO7ccjOZSWwWIOZMYWZVCvQAA saZ5sIMEAPeHG2lOEXP22aHA0Ar4viCtdR5AZ6HPJHIoJx2ErXk2AOAG1 VkcTrZC+2rPOEYf6gfWg134bPaBAYBQJ1gcXJpg1/Oap7YCgHZUTndVnq w=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,342,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="54199397" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Aug 2012 17:58:18 +0000 Received: from [10.154.212.54] ([10.154.212.54]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UHwIao027169; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:58:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Darrel Lewis In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:58:18 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <38F7CFC8-D73A-4003-BF9F-4872B942EBE1@cisco.com> References: To: Terry Manderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:58:20 -0000 I have reviewed this draft and support its adoption as a wg item. -Darrel On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have > requested a work group last call. > > Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > You will find its text here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 > > Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. > > Cheers > Terry > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From darlewis@cisco.com Thu Aug 30 11:10:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8138821F859C for ; 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X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,342,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="56692216" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Aug 2012 18:10:50 +0000 Received: from [10.154.212.54] ([10.154.212.54]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7UIAo43002418; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:10:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Darrel Lewis In-Reply-To: <38F7CFC8-D73A-4003-BF9F-4872B942EBE1@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:10:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <28BEF538-FFC4-41FB-B6B6-CAE4D9E10808@cisco.com> References: <38F7CFC8-D73A-4003-BF9F-4872B942EBE1@cisco.com> To: Darrel Lewis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] [MARKETING] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:10:52 -0000 Sigh, typo (brain type) - I support it moving forward through last call, = its in great shape. -Darrel On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Darrel Lewis wrote: > I have reviewed this draft and support its adoption as a wg item. >=20 > -Darrel > On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: >=20 >> As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have >> requested a work group last call. >>=20 >> Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will = end on >> Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >>=20 >> You will find its text here: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 >>=20 >> Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Terry >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >=20 From dino@cisco.com Thu Aug 30 16:18:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D5121F84EE for ; 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Dino --Apple-Mail=_91E97C68-DF51-4959-95C5-06CB2F2FAFAA Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-00.txt Content-Type: text/plain; x-unix-mode=0644; name="draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-00.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Network Working Group D. Farinacci Internet-Draft D. Meyer Intended status: Experimental cisco Systems Expires: March 3, 2013 J. Snijders InTouch N.V. August 30, 2012 LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-00 Abstract This draft defines a canonical address format encoding used in LISP control messages and in the encoding of lookup keys for the LISP Mapping Database System. Status of this Memo This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. The list of current Internet- Drafts is at http://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/current/. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." This Internet-Draft will expire on March 3, 2013. Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 2012 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the document authors. All rights reserved. This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of publication of this document. Please review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect to this document. Code Components extracted from this document must include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as described in the Simplified BSD License. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 1] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Table of Contents 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2. Definition of Terms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3. LISP Canonical Address Format Encodings . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4. LISP Canonical Address Applications . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 4.1. Segmentation using LISP . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 4.2. Carrying AS Numbers in the Mapping Database . . . . . . . 8 4.3. Convey Application Specific Data . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 4.4. Assigning Geo Coordinates to Locator Addresses . . . . . . 10 4.5. Generic Database Mapping Lookups . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 4.6. NAT Traversal Scenarios . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 4.7. PETR Admission Control Functionality . . . . . . . . . . . 14 4.8. Multicast Group Membership Information . . . . . . . . . . 16 4.9. Traffic Engineering using Re-encapsulating Tunnels . . . . 17 4.10. Storing Security Data in the Mapping Database . . . . . . 19 4.11. Source/Destination 2-Tuple Lookups . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 4.12. Applications for AFI List Type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21 4.12.1. Binding IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . 21 4.12.2. Layer-2 VPNs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22 4.12.3. ASCII Names in the Mapping Database . . . . . . . . . 22 4.12.4. Using Recursive LISP Canonical Address Encodings . . 23 4.12.5. Compatibility Mode Use Case . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 5. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25 6. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26 7. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27 7.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27 7.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27 Appendix A. Acknowledgments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28 Appendix B. Document Change Log . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 29 B.1. Changes to draft-ietf-lisp-00.txt . . . . . . . . . . . . 29 Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30 Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 2] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 1. Introduction The LISP architecture and protocols [LISP] introduces two new numbering spaces, Endpoint Identifiers (EIDs) and Routing Locators (RLOCs) which are intended to replace most use of IP addresses on the Internet. To provide flexibility for current and future applications, these values can be encoded in LISP control messages using a general syntax that includes Address Family Identifier (AFI), length, and value fields. Currently defined AFIs include IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, which are formatted according to code-points assigned in [AFI] as follows: IPv4 Encoded Address: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 1 | IPv4 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv4 Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ IPv6 Encoded Address: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 2 | IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ This document describes the currently-defined AFIs the LISP protocol uses along with their encodings and introduces the LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) that can be used to define the LISP-specific encodings for arbitrary AFI values. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 3] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 2. Definition of Terms Address Family Identifier (AFI): a term used to describe an address encoding in a packet. An address family currently defined for IPv4 or IPv6 addresses. See [AFI] and [RFC1700] for details. The reserved AFI value of 0 is used in this specification to indicate an unspecified encoded address where the the length of the address is 0 bytes following the 16-bit AFI value of 0. Unspecified Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 0 | = | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Endpoint ID (EID): a 32-bit (for IPv4) or 128-bit (for IPv6) value used in the source and destination address fields of the first (most inner) LISP header of a packet. The host obtains a destination EID the same way it obtains a destination address today, for example through a DNS lookup or SIP exchange. The source EID is obtained via existing mechanisms used to set a host's "local" IP address. An EID is allocated to a host from an EID-prefix block associated with the site where the host is located. An EID can be used by a host to refer to other hosts. Routing Locator (RLOC): the IPv4 or IPv6 address of an egress tunnel router (ETR). It is the output of a EID-to-RLOC mapping lookup. An EID maps to one or more RLOCs. Typically, RLOCs are numbered from topologically aggregatable blocks that are assigned to a site at each point to which it attaches to the global Internet; where the topology is defined by the connectivity of provider networks, RLOCs can be thought of as PA addresses. Multiple RLOCs can be assigned to the same ETR device or to multiple ETR devices at a site. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 4] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 3. LISP Canonical Address Format Encodings IANA has assigned AFI value 16387 (0x4003) to the LISP architecture and protocols. This specification defines the encoding format of the LISP Canonical Address (LCA). The first 4 bytes of an LISP Canonical Address are followed by a variable length of fields: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type | Rsvd2 | Length | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Rsvd1: this 8-bit field is reserved for future use and MUST be transmitted as 0 and ignored on receipt. Flags: this 8-bit field is for future definition and use. For now, set to zero on transmission and ignored on receipt. Type: this 8-bit field is specific to the LISP Canonical Address formatted encodings, values are: Type 0: Null Body Type Type 1: AFI List Type Type 2: Instance ID Type Type 3: AS Number Type Type 4: Application Data Type Type 5: Geo Coordinates Type Type 6: Opaque Key Type Type 7: NAT-Traversal Type Type 8: Nonce Locator Type Type 9: Multicast Info Type Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 5] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Type 10: Explicit Locator Path Type Type 11: Security Key Type Type 12: Source/Dest Key Type Rsvd2: this 8-bit field is reserved for future use and MUST be transmitted as 0 and ignored on receipt. Length: this 16-bit field is in units of bytes and covers all of the LISP Canonical Address payload, starting and including the byte after the Length field. So any LCAF encoded address will have a minimum length of 8 bytes when the Length field is 0. The 8 bytes include the AFI, Flags, Type, Reserved, and Length fields. When the AFI is not next to encoded address in a control message, then the encoded address will have a minimum length of 6 bytes when the Length field is 0. The 6 bytes include the Flags, Type, Reserved, and Length fields. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 6] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4. LISP Canonical Address Applications 4.1. Segmentation using LISP When multiple organizations inside of a LISP site are using private addresses [RFC1918] as EID-prefixes, their address spaces must remain segregated due to possible address duplication. An Instance ID in the address encoding can aid in making the entire AFI based address unique. Another use for the Instance ID LISP Canonical Address Format is when creating multiple segmented VPNs inside of a LISP site where keeping EID-prefix based subnets is desirable. Instance ID LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 2 | IID mask-len | 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Instance ID | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ IID mask-len: if the AFI is set to 0, then this format is not encoding an extended EID-prefix but rather an instance-ID range where the 'IID mask-len' indicates the number of high-order bits used in the Instance ID field for the range. Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI address that follows the Instance ID field including the AFI field itself. Instance ID: the low-order 24-bits that can go into a LISP data header when the I-bit is set. See [LISP] for details. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. This LISP Canonical Address Type can be used to encode either EID or RLOC addresses. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 7] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.2. Carrying AS Numbers in the Mapping Database When an AS number is stored in the LISP Mapping Database System for either policy or documentation reasons, it can be encoded in a LISP Canonical Address. AS Number LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 3 | Rsvd2 | 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AS Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI address that follows the AS Number field including the AFI field itself. AS Number: the 32-bit AS number of the autonomous system that has been assigned either the EID or RLOC that follows. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. The AS Number Canonical Address Type can be used to encode either EID or RLOC addresses. The former is used to describe the LISP-ALT AS number the EID-prefix for the site is being carried for. The latter is used to describe the AS that is carrying RLOC based prefixes in the underlying routing system. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 8] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.3. Convey Application Specific Data When a locator-set needs to be conveyed based on the type of application or the Per-Hop Behavior (PHB) of a packet, the Application Data Type can be used. Application Data LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 4 | Rsvd2 | 8 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP TOS, IPv6 TC, or Flow Label | Protocol | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Local Port | Remote Port | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI address that follows the 8-byte Application Data fields including the AFI field itself. IP TOS, IPv6 TC, or Flow Label: this field stores the 8-bit IPv4 TOS field used in an IPv4 header, the 8-bit IPv6 Traffic Class or Flow Label used in an IPv6 header. Local Port/Remote Port: these fields are from the TCP, UDP, or SCTP transport header. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. The Application Data Canonical Address Type is used for an EID encoding when an ITR wants a locator-set for a specific application. When used for an RLOC encoding, the ETR is supplying a locator-set for each specific application is has been configured to advertise. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 9] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.4. Assigning Geo Coordinates to Locator Addresses If an ETR desires to send a Map-Reply describing the Geo Coordinates for each locator in its locator-set, it can use the Geo Coordinate Type to convey physical location information. Geo Coordinate LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 5 | Rsvd2 | 12 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |N| Latitude Degrees | Minutes | Seconds | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |E| Longitude Degrees | Minutes | Seconds | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Altitude | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI address that follows the 8-byte Longitude and Latitude fields including the AFI field itself. N: When set to 1 means North, otherwise South. Latitude Degrees: Valid values range from 0 to 90. degrees above or below the equator (northern or southern hemisphere, respectively). Latitude Minutes: Valid values range from 0 to 59. Latitude Seconds: Valid values range from 0 to 59. E: When set to 1 means East, otherwise West. Longitude Degrees: Value values are from 0 to 90 degrees right or left of the Prime Meridian. Longitude Minutes: Valid values range from 0 to 59. Longitude Seconds: Valid values range from 0 to 59. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 10] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Altitude: Height relative to sea level in meters. This is a signed integer meaning that the altitude could be below sea level. A value of 0x7fffffff indicates no Altitude value is encoded. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. The Geo Coordinates Canonical Address Type can be used to encode either EID or RLOC addresses. When used for EID encodings, you can determine the physical location of an EID along with the topological location by observing the locator-set. 4.5. Generic Database Mapping Lookups When the LISP Mapping Database system holds information accessed by a generic formatted key (where the key is not the usual IPv4 or IPv6 address), an opaque key may be desirable. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 11] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Opaque Key LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 6 | Rsvd2 | n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Key Field Num | Key Wildcard Fields | Key . . . | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | . . . Key | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the type's payload. The value n is the number of bytes that follow this Length field. Key Field Num: the number of fields (minus 1) the key can be broken up into. The width of the fields are fixed length. So for a key size of 8 bytes, with a Key Field Num of 4 allows 4 fields of 2 bytes in length. Valid values for this field range from 0 to 15 supporting a maximum of 16 field separations. Key Wildcard Fields: describes which fields in the key are not used as part of the key lookup. This wildcard encoding is a bitfield. Each bit is a don't-care bit for a corresponding field in the key. Bit 0 (the low-order bit) in this bitfield corresponds the first field, right-justified in the key, bit 1 the second field, and so on. When a bit is set in the bitfield it is a don't-care bit and should not be considered as part of the database lookup. When the entire 16-bits is set to 0, then all bits of the key are used for the database lookup. Key: the variable length key used to do a LISP Database Mapping lookup. The length of the key is the value n (shown above) minus 3. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 12] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.6. NAT Traversal Scenarios When a LISP system is conveying global address and mapped port information when traversing through a NAT device, the NAT-Traversal LCAF Type is used. See [LISP-NATT] for details. NAT-Traversal Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 7 | Rsvd2 | 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | MS UDP Port Number | ETR UDP Port Number | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Global ETR RLOC Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | MS RLOC Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Private ETR RLOC Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | RTR RLOC Address 1 ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | RTR RLOC Address k ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI addresses that follows the UDP Port Number field including the AFI fields themselves. MS UDP Port Number: this is the UDP port number of the Map-Server and is set to 4342. ETR UDP Port Number: this is the port number returned to a LISP system which was copied from the source port from a packet that has flowed through a NAT device. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. Global ETR RLOC Address: this is an address known to be globally unique built by NAT-traversal functionality in a LISP router. MS RLOC Address: this is the address of the Map-Server used in the destination RLOC of a packet that has flowed through a NAT device. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 13] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Private ETR RLOC Address: this is an address known to be a private address inserted in this LCAF format by a LISP router that resides on the private side of a NAT device. RTR RLOC Address: this is an encapsulation address used by an ITR or PITR which resides behind a NAT device. This address is known to have state in a NAT device so packets can flow from it to the LISP ETR behind the NAT. There can be one or more NTR addresses supplied in these set of fields. The number of NTRs encoded is determined by the LCAF length field. When there are no NTRs supplied, the NTR fields can be omitted and reflected by the LCAF length field or an AFI of 0 can be used to indicate zero NTRs encoded. 4.7. PETR Admission Control Functionality When a public PETR device wants to verify who is encapsulating to it, it can check for a specific nonce value in the LISP encapsulated packet. To convey the nonce to admitted ITRs or PITRs, this LCAF format is used in a Map-Register or Map-Reply locator-record. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 14] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Nonce Locator Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 8 | Rsvd2 | 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved | Nonce | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of the AFI address that follows the Nonce field including the AFI field itself. Reserved: must be set to zero and ignore on receipt. Nonce: this is a nonce value returned by an ETR in a Map-Reply locator-record to be used by an ITR or PITR when encapsulating to the locator address encoded in the AFI field of this LCAF type. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 15] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.8. Multicast Group Membership Information Multicast group information can be published in the mapping database so a lookup on an EID based group address can return a replication list of group addresses or a unicast addresses for single replication or multiple head-end replications. This LCAF encoding can be used to send broadcast packets to all members of a subnet when each EIDs are away from their home subnet location. Multicast Info Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 9 | Rsvd2 |R|L|J| 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved | Source MaskLen| Group MaskLen | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Source/Subnet Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Group Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of fields that follow. Reserved: must be set to zero and ignore on receipt. R-bit: this is the RP-bit that represents PIM (S,G,RP-bit) multicast state. This bit can be set for Joins (when the J-bit is set) or for Leaves (when the L-bit is set). See [LISP-MRSIG] for more usage details. L-bit: this is the Leave-Request bit and is used when this LCAF type is present in the destination EID-prefix field of a Map-Request. See [LISP-MRSIG] for details. J-bit: this is the Join-Request bit and is used when this LCAF type is present in the destination EID-prefix field of a Map-Request. See [LISP-MRSIG] for details. The J-bit MUST not be set when the L-bit is also set in the same LCAF block. A receiver should not take any specific Join or Leave action when both bits are set. Source MaskLen: the mask length of the source prefix that follows. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 16] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Group MaskLen: the mask length of the group prefix that follows. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. When a specific AFI = has its own encoding of a multicast address, this field must be either a group address or a broadcast address. 4.9. Traffic Engineering using Re-encapsulating Tunnels For a given EID lookup into the mapping database, this LCAF format can be returned to provide a list of locators in an explicit re- encapsulation path. See [LISP-TE] for details. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 17] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Explicit Locator Path (ELP) Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 10 | Rsvd2 | n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Rsvd3 |L|P|S| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reencap Hop 1 ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Rsvd3 |L|P|S| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reencap Hop k ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of fields that follow. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. When a specific AFI = has its own encoding of a multicast address, this field must be either a group address or a broadcast address. Lookup bit (L): this is the Lookup bit used to indicate to the user of the ELP to not use this address for encapsulation but to look it up in the mapping database system to obtain an encapsulating RLOC address. RLOC-Probe bit (P): this is the RLOC-probe bit which means the Reencap Hop allows RLOC-probe messages to be sent to it. When the R-bit is set to 0, RLOC-probes must not be sent. When a Reencap Hop is an anycast address then multiple physical Reencap Hops are using the same RLOC address. In this case, RLOC-probes are not needed because when the closest RLOC address is not reachable another RLOC address can reachable. Strict bit (S): this the strict bit which means the associated Rencap Hop is required to be used. If this bit is 0, the reencapsulator can skip this Reencap Hop and go to the next one in the list. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 18] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.10. Storing Security Data in the Mapping Database When a locator in a locator-set has a security key associated with it, this LCAF format will be used to encode key material. See [LISP-DDT] for details. Security Key Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 11 | Rsvd2 | 6 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Key Count | Rsvd3 | Key Algorithm | Rsvd4 |R| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Key Length | Key Material ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... Key Material | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Locator Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of fields that start with the Key Material field. Key Count: the Key Count field declares the number of Key sections included in this LCAF. Key Algorithm: the Algorithm field identifies the key's cryptographic algorithm and specifies the format of the Public Key field. R bit: this is the revoke bit and, if set, it specifies that this Key is being Revoked. Key Length: this field determines the length in bytes of the Key Material field. Key Material: the Key Material field stores the key material. The format of the key material stored depends on the Key Algorithm field. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI].This is the locator address that owns the encoded security key. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 19] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.11. Source/Destination 2-Tuple Lookups When both a source and destination address of a flow needs consideration for different locator-sets, this 2-tuple key is used in EID fields in LISP control messages. When the Source/Dest key is registered to the mapping database, it can be encoded as a source- prefix and destination-prefix. When the Source/Dest is used as a key for a mapping database lookup the source and destination come from a data packet. Source/Dest Key Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 12 | Rsvd2 | 4 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved | Source-ML | Dest-ML | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Source-Prefix ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D x | Destination-Prefix ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length value n: length in bytes of fields that follow. Reserved: must be set to zero and ignore on receipt. Source-ML: the mask length of the source prefix that follows. Dest-ML: the mask length of the destination prefix that follows. AFI =3D x: x can be any AFI value from [AFI]. When a specific AFI = has its own encoding of a multicast address, this field must be either a group address or a broadcast address. Refer to [LISP-TE] for usage details. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 20] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.12. Applications for AFI List Type 4.12.1. Binding IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses When header translation between IPv4 and IPv6 is desirable a LISP Canonical Address can use the AFI List Type to carry multiple AFIs in one LCA AFI. Bounded Address LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 1 | Rsvd2 | 2 + 4 + 2 + 16 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 1 | IPv4 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv4 Address | AFI =3D 2 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv6 Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length: length in bytes is fixed at 24 when IPv4 and IPv6 AFI encoded addresses are used. This type of address format can be included in a Map-Request when the address is being used as an EID, but the Mapping Database System lookup destination can use only the IPv4 address. This is so a Mapping Database Service Transport System, such as LISP-ALT [ALT], can use the Map-Request destination address to route the control message to the desired LISP site. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 21] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.12.2. Layer-2 VPNs When MAC addresses are stored in the LISP Mapping Database System, the AFI List Type can be used to carry AFI 6. MAC Address LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 1 | Rsvd2 | 2 + 6 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 6 | Layer-2 MAC Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... Layer-2 MAC Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length: length in bytes is fixed at 8 when MAC address AFI encoded addresses are used. This address format can be used to connect layer-2 domains together using LISP over an IPv4 or IPv6 core network to create a layer-2 VPN. In this use-case, a MAC address is being used as an EID, and the locator-set that this EID maps to can be an IPv4 or IPv6 RLOCs, or even another MAC address being used as an RLOC. 4.12.3. ASCII Names in the Mapping Database If DNS names or URIs are stored in the LISP Mapping Database System, the AFI List Type can be used to carry an ASCII string where it is delimited by length 'n' of the LCAF Length encoding. ASCII LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 1 | Rsvd2 | 2 + n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 17 | DNS Name or URI ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 22] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Length value n: length in bytes AFI=3D17 field and the = null-terminated ASCII string (the last byte of 0 is included). 4.12.4. Using Recursive LISP Canonical Address Encodings When any combination of above is desirable, the AFI List Type value can be used to carry within the LCA AFI another LCA AFI. Recursive LISP Canonical Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 1 | Rsvd2 | 4 + 8 + 2 + 4 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 4 | Rsvd2 | 12 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP TOS, IPv6 QQS or Flow Label | Protocol | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Local Port | Remote Port | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 1 | IPv4 Address ... | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | ... IPv4 Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Length: length in bytes is fixed at 18 when an AFI=3D1 IPv4 address = is included. This format could be used by a Mapping Database Transport System, such as LISP-ALT [ALT], where the AFI=3D1 IPv4 address is used as an EID and placed in the Map-Request destination address by the sending LISP system. The ALT system can deliver the Map-Request to the LISP destination site independent of the Application Data Type AFI payload values. When this AFI is processed by the destination LISP site, it can return different locator-sets based on the type of application or level of service that is being requested. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 23] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 4.12.5. Compatibility Mode Use Case A LISP system should use the AFI List Type format when sending to LISP systems that do not support a particular LCAF Type used to encode locators. This allows the receiving system to be able to parse a locator address for encapsulation purposes. The list of AFIs in an AFI List LCAF Type has no semantic ordering and a receiver should parse each AFI element no matter what the ordering. Compatibility Mode Address Format: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 1 | Rsvd2 | 22 + 6 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 16387 | Rsvd1 | Flags | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Type =3D 5 | Rsvd2 | 12 + 2 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |N| Latitude Degrees | Minutes | Seconds | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |E| Longitude Degrees | Minutes | Seconds | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Altitude | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | AFI =3D 0 | AFI =3D 1 = | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IPv4 Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ If a system does not recognized the Geo Coordinate LCAF Type that is accompanying a locator address, an encoder can include the Geo Coordinate LCAF Type embedded in a AFI List LCAF Type where the AFI in the Geo Coordinate LCAF is set to 0 and the AFI encoded next in the list is encoded with a valid AFI value to identify the locator address. A LISP system is required to support the AFI List LCAF Type to use this procedure. It would skip over 10 bytes of the Geo Coordinate LCAF Type to get to the locator address encoding (an IPv4 locator address). A LISP system that does support the Geo Coordinate LCAF Type can support parsing the locator address within the Geo Coordinate LCAF encoding or in the locator encoding that follows in the AFI List LCAF. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 24] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 5. Security Considerations There are no security considerations for this specification. The security considerations are documented for the protocols that use LISP Canonical Addressing. Refer to the those relevant specifications. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 25] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 6. IANA Considerations The Address Family AFI definitions from [AFI] only allocate code- points for the AFI value itself. The length of the address or entity that follows is not defined and is implied based on conventional experience. Where the LISP protocol uses LISP Canonical Addresses specifically, the address length definitions will be in this specification and take precedent over any other specification. An IANA Registry for LCAF Type values will be created. The values that are considered for use by the main LISP specification [LISP] will be in the IANA Registry. Other Type values used for experimentation will be defined and described in this document. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 26] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 7. References 7.1. Normative References [RFC1700] Reynolds, J. and J. Postel, "Assigned Numbers", RFC 1700, October 1994. [RFC1918] Rekhter, Y., Moskowitz, R., Karrenberg, D., Groot, G., and E. Lear, "Address Allocation for Private Internets", BCP 5, RFC 1918, February 1996. 7.2. Informative References [AFI] IANA, "Address Family Identifier (AFIs)", ADDRESS FAMILY NUMBERS http://www.iana.org/numbers.html, Febuary 2007. [ALT] Fuller, V., Farinacci, D., Meyer, D., and D. Lewis, "LISP Alternative Topology (LISP+ALT)", draft-ietf-lisp-alt-06.txt (work in progress), March 2011. [LISP] Farinacci, D., Fuller, V., Meyer, D., and D. Lewis, "Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP)", draft-ietf-lisp-12.txt (work in progress), April 2011. [LISP-DDT] Fuller, V., Lewis, D., and V. Ermagan, "LISP Delegated Database Tree", draft-fuller-lisp-ddt-01.txt (work in progress). [LISP-MRSIG] Farinacci, D. and M. Napierala, "LISP Control-Plane Multicast Signaling", draft-farinacci-lisp-mr-signaling-00.txt (work in progress). [LISP-NATT] Ermagan, V., Farinacci, D., Lewis, D., Skriver, J., Maino, F., and C. White, "NAT traversal for LISP", draft-ermagan-lisp-nat-traversal-00.txt (work in progress). [LISP-TE] Farinacci, D., Lahiri, P., and M. Kowal, "LISP Traffic Engineering Use-Cases", draft-farinacci-lisp-te-01.txt (work in progress). Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 27] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Appendix A. Acknowledgments The authors would like to thank Vince Fuller, Gregg Schudel, Jesper Skriver, Luigi Iannone, and Isidor Kouvelas for their technical and editorial commentary. The authors would like to thank Victor Moreno for discussions that lead to the definition of the Multicast Info LCAF type. The authors would like to thank Parantap Lahiri and Michael Kowal for discussions that lead to the definition of the Explicit Locator Path (ELP) LCAF type. The authors would like to thank Fabio Maino and Vina Ermagan for discussions that lead to the definition of the Security Key LCAF type. Thanks also goes to Terry Manderson for assistance obtaining a LISP AFI value from IANA. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 28] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Appendix B. Document Change Log B.1. Changes to draft-ietf-lisp-00.txt o Posted first working group draft August 2012. o This draft was renamed from draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10.txt. Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 29] =0C Internet-Draft LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) August 2012 Authors' Addresses Dino Farinacci cisco Systems Tasman Drive San Jose, CA 95134 USA Email: dino@cisco.com Dave Meyer cisco Systems 170 Tasman Drive San Jose, CA USA Email: dmm@cisco.com Job Snijders InTouch N.V. Middenweg 76 1097 BS Amsterdam The Netherlands Email: job@instituut.net Farinacci, et al. Expires March 3, 2013 [Page 30] =0C --Apple-Mail=_91E97C68-DF51-4959-95C5-06CB2F2FAFAA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 28, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Terry Manderson = wrote: >=20 > I view that there is consensus in the workgroup to adopt this draft as = a > work group item. >=20 > Can the authors please submit a revision in the appropriate fashion. >=20 > I'd also like to remind the authors that as a WG document I am = expecting > that any substantive document changes are the result of WG discussion. >=20 > I would also like to call the WG's attention to the comments regarding = code > points for transport of other protocols and ask the WG to consider = those > comments in the process of developing this draft. >=20 > Cheers > Terry >=20 >=20 > On 13/08/12 4:09 PM, "Terry Manderson" = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> In Vancouver the chairs received a request for the following document = to be >> adopted as a WG item. >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farinacci-lisp-lcaf-10 >>=20 >> Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on >> Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. >>=20 >> Please email the WG list stating that you either accept, or not = accept, the >> item. >>=20 >> If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, = please >> also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or >> review, (or both) the draft. >>=20 >> Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond = appropriately. >>=20 >> Cheers >> Terry >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --Apple-Mail=_91E97C68-DF51-4959-95C5-06CB2F2FAFAA-- --Apple-Mail=_ED4EBF38-4153-4E63-BF23-355E4E0E63F8 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) Author(s) : Dino Farinacci Dave Meyer Job Snijders Filename : draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-00.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2012-08-30 Abstract: This draft defines a canonical address format encoding used in LISP control messages and in the encoding of lookup keys for the LISP Mapping Database System. 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[137.194.165.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm7879251wix.6.2012.08.31.01.29.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <503F6B1A.3000104@innovationslab.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:30:08 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> <503F6B1A.3000104@innovationslab.net> To: Brian Haberman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJV72/sMIS/OSO/G3XddPTEbhL79Lbo4r4Qp2IXLZo7ICXfsD6EmzHVlQD0bEvGLgdfCb1 Cc: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block@tools.ietf.org, lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] AD Review: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:29:28 -0000 Hi Brian, thank you for the review. Few comments inline. On 30 Aug. 2012, at 15:31 , Brian Haberman = wrote: > Ok, so I typed too soon... >=20 > On 8/30/12 9:00 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: >> All, >> As a part of the publication process, I have completed my = initial >> review of draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block. The draft is well-written and >> concise and I thank you for that. >>=20 >> The only suggestion I would make for this document is to drop = the >> use of the 2119 language. It is only used in a few places and those >> uses are not really appropriate for 2119 language. I would suggest >> re-writing those guidelines with normal prose and drop the 2119 >> boilerplate from the document. We tried not to use so much the 2119 language, but if you think it is = better to drop it completely, this can be done. But, what do you think about section 8 "Routing Consideration" ? There, = with 2119 language, we recommend that routers that do not support LISP = do not handle the prefix in any special way. WOuldn't be better to = maintain that part? >=20 > This draft would benefit from the addition of enhanced text on why a = /16 is needed. What prefix lengths are expected to be allocated to = end-sites? IMHO, this is something that should not be discussed in the document. = Prefix length allocation will be based on operational reasons and = allocation policies that may change in time. > How many networks are expected to participate in this experiment? Very difficult to say, participants are steadily growing. But let's = have a long term viewpoint, if the LISP "experiment" is successful and = widely adopted wouldn't be better if the reserved prefix does not have = to change and has sufficient space to accommodate any future growth?=20 In addition, I know that all LISP work is marked as "experimental" but = let's also keep in mind that there are companies out there that start = making business out of LISP. > Should there be a termination date for this allocation? I do not see IPv6 addressing space as a scarce resource, and for the = same reasons I cited above I wouldn't put a termination date. Obviously, IANA may decide to allocate the prefix only for a limited = amount of time and decide in few years whether or not to make it a = definitive allocation.=20 >=20 > To get an idea of what IANA is expecting as far as supporting = information for this type of allocation, I suggest a review of the IANA = IPv6 Special Purpose Address Registry. >=20 > = http://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-speci= al-registry.xml >=20 thanks for the pointer. ciao Luigi > Regards, > Brian >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From gwiley@verisign.com Fri Aug 31 07:16:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA5821F8611 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JF-NH4RfkaeB for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og113.obsmtp.com (exprod6og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F321F860E for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob113.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUEDHMlrstshpiBNj50SCfvD480zL4w38@postini.com; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:16:21 PDT Received: from BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexchm01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.255]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id q7VEGDMj029518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:16:15 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:16:04 -0400 From: "Wiley, Glen" To: Noel Chiappa , "lisp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 Thread-Index: AQHNh4MsF415waY9jkmN05M7yuMmwQ== Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:16:12 +0000 Message-ID: <641EE49757824F4BBE5F863B22FDDBF2130EB5@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <20120813133258.BB02C18C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <42E5F4CAA121E24B8EA72516F0B4E95D@verisign.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [lisp] Adoption of draft-chiappa-lisp-architecture-01 and draft-chiappa-lisp-introduction-01 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:16:22 -0000 The draft looks acceptable to me. I have a few high level comments and I'll throw in a few more detailed ones for convenience: There needs to be a discussion of resilience to DDOS, particularly because LISP is based on UDP it may create opportunities for reflector and amplification attacks similar to what we see on large scale DNS resolver footprints. Were you planning on including this in the "Robustness" discussion? I think it warrants a separate section if you are amenable to that idea. I'd be happy to contribute some narrative to that point as well. A few more detailed nits: Section 2: Is DFZ size still a main design driver or is it really more of a question of finer grained routing with a side benefit of DFZ size reductions? Section 3.2: "one at each end" isn't really the case for LISP, "one near each end" I think is a little closer to what you mean, especially since you mention LISP being invisible on both ends. Section 5: Does list really have three key name spaces (thinking DDT nodes) rather than two? Section 11.2.1: Might want to revise language around the DNS registry example. TLDs have different registries (although root of course is unique). In DNS you can't take your domain name to a different registry, you can however take it to a different registrar. -- Glen Wiley Systems Architect Verisign Inc. On 8/13/12 9:32 AM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: > > > From: Luigi Iannone > > > I will send comments very soon. > >Comments will be most useful (and I look forward to them - assuming >of course that that the WG decides to take these two up):. > > >One minor thing to note; as I indicated when I first announced them: > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/lisp/current/msg03786.html > >These are rough drafts (and the second one is only partially complete), >so as >I indicated in that message: > > we're not (yet) at the 'detailed editorial comments' stage - although if > anyone reads it, and has high-level comments (e.g. 'you ought to talk >about > topic X', or 'it would be better if you talked about P before you get to > Q'), I would be most grateful for, and interested in, hearing things >like > that. > >I tend to fiddle with text details extensively, so at the detail level >there >will have been lots of changes before the next draft version. After that, >then we'll be ready for the detailed editorial comments! :-) > > Noel >_______________________________________________ >lisp mailing list >lisp@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From fmaino@cisco.com Fri Aug 31 09:06:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD1F21F86D9 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mrb2ZPMXgaw7 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECDE21F8666 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fmaino@cisco.com; l=2259; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1346429192; x=1347638792; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to; bh=WNIayDfOR8TPZau7hk1/xkCVwEaT/o4kpoh/Z8D7MZ8=; b=afxTvaOokr0tdcy/mwp52LTzvYZ8JRhRwwxTWlqaPP27s7rI3eKqAVt4 ibBkFq4ffu2zcrPslfRl0EvtsnJ+mkORXCuak/z9L/LE2COra7fcuMN4d 4WQSf7Bzc4rM2kGT/BoKqzQBrG9shQqKX8dwphX1dqolsh/TcoJZ2yuT+ w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAFrgQFCrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABFuxmBB4IgAQEBBAEBAQ8BClEKEQsEARMJFg8JAwIBAgEVMBMGAgEBHodqDJtzoCqLCYNlgxwDiE+NCYEUjR+BZ4MD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,347,1344211200"; d="scan'208,217";a="56809098" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2012 16:06:31 +0000 Received: from fmaino-mac-2.local ([10.154.128.98]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q7VG6UUX029282 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:06:30 GMT Message-ID: <5040E106.9080906@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:30 -0700 From: Fabio Maino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010902030308000306030104" Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC for draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:06:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010902030308000306030104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit support On 8/12/12 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have > requested a work group last call. > > Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will end on > Tuesday the 28th August, 2012. > > You will find its text here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 > > Please review this WG item and provide any last comments. > > Cheers > Terry > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --------------010902030308000306030104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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On 8/12/12 11:09 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
As requested in Vancouver, the authors of draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05 have
requested a work group last call.

Here starts a 14 day last call for this document, the last call will end on
Tuesday the 28th August, 2012.

You will find its text here:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lisp-mib-05

Please review this WG item and provide any last comments.

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--------------010902030308000306030104-- From brian@innovationslab.net Fri Aug 31 11:09:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68221F8551 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2gmrvrsHvppG for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458EE21F855B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260D488090; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clemson.local (nat-gwifi.jhuapl.edu [128.244.87.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E502130019; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5040FE3D.50207@innovationslab.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:11:09 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Iannone References: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> <503F6B1A.3000104@innovationslab.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block@tools.ietf.org, lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] AD Review: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:09:39 -0000 On 8/31/12 4:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote: > Hi Brian, > > thank you for the review. Few comments inline. > > On 30 Aug. 2012, at 15:31 , Brian Haberman > wrote: > >> Ok, so I typed too soon... >> >> On 8/30/12 9:00 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: >>> All, As a part of the publication process, I have completed my >>> initial review of draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block. The draft is >>> well-written and concise and I thank you for that. >>> >>> The only suggestion I would make for this document is to drop >>> the use of the 2119 language. It is only used in a few places >>> and those uses are not really appropriate for 2119 language. I >>> would suggest re-writing those guidelines with normal prose and >>> drop the 2119 boilerplate from the document. > > We tried not to use so much the 2119 language, but if you think it is > better to drop it completely, this can be done. Given the places it is used and the goal of this document, I don't see the need for 2119 language. > > But, what do you think about section 8 "Routing Consideration" ? > There, with 2119 language, we recommend that routers that do not > support LISP do not handle the prefix in any special way. WOuldn't be > better to maintain that part? > Not really, for two reasons. One, this type of guidance is trying to tell operators how to run their networks. The IETF has a very poor track record of doing that and I can assure you that such direction will raise a few ADs eyebrows. Second, any guidance harvested from this section by equipment vendors does not need 2119 keywords. Those terms are not meant to dictate implementations, they are for interoperability. > >> >> This draft would benefit from the addition of enhanced text on why >> a /16 is needed. What prefix lengths are expected to be allocated >> to end-sites? > > IMHO, this is something that should not be discussed in the document. > Prefix length allocation will be based on operational reasons and > allocation policies that may change in time. > I disagree. There needs to be some justification for why the particular request is being made. For example, 6to4 is allocated an IPv6 prefix and its RFC (3056) describes why its particular prefix size is needed. Moreover, this request is wading into a new area. It is asking for a block of addresses from IANA which will then be sub-delegated to end networks. Who will manage these allocations? Using what guidelines? And given the statements in section 8 about these EIDs being routed natively, are you treading into the RIR space? I will have to discuss with my fellow ADs what their understanding was with respect to the routability of EIDs during the LISP rechartering. > >> How many networks are expected to participate in this experiment? > > Very difficult to say, participants are steadily growing. But let's > have a long term viewpoint, if the LISP "experiment" is successful > and widely adopted wouldn't be better if the reserved prefix does not > have to change and has sufficient space to accommodate any future > growth? I have no issues with planning for success, but one of the key issues with allocating addresses is justifying the request. Typical allocation policies, at least from the RIR perspective, take total number of networks/devices into account when responding to an address block request. > > In addition, I know that all LISP work is marked as "experimental" > but let's also keep in mind that there are companies out there that > start making business out of LISP. > That is their choice. > >> Should there be a termination date for this allocation? > > I do not see IPv6 addressing space as a scarce resource, and for the > same reasons I cited above I wouldn't put a termination date. > > Obviously, IANA may decide to allocate the prefix only for a limited > amount of time and decide in few years whether or not to make it a > definitive allocation. > That is definitely one possibility. Regards, Brian From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Aug 31 11:33:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D77021F852D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7C2eq+CI920N for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA64821F847F for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7VIX03H006405; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:33:00 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7VIWxRb006389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:33:00 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Luigi Iannone'" , "'Brian Haberman'" References: <503F63F5.7030309@innovationslab.net> <503F6B1A.3000104@innovationslab.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:32:59 +0100 Message-ID: <23ec01cd87a7$0ca105e0$25e311a0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQH8TN7f7lWUIpLsTCrCb6W5D0gnCAIBZUt1ArlabxqW8N0sIA== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block@tools.ietf.org, lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] AD Review: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:33:03 -0000 Hi, Just cutting to the discussion of routing... > >> The only suggestion I would make for this document is to drop the > >> use of the 2119 language. It is only used in a few places and those > >> uses are not really appropriate for 2119 language. I would suggest > >> re-writing those guidelines with normal prose and drop the 2119 > >> boilerplate from the document. > > We tried not to use so much the 2119 language, but if you think it is better to > drop it completely, this can be done. > > But, what do you think about section 8 "Routing Consideration" ? There, with > 2119 language, we recommend that routers that do not support LISP do not > handle the prefix in any special way. WOuldn't be better to maintain that part? I am not sure that this document can mandate the behavior of routers that don't support this document. So the use of must/should language in upper or lower case seem inappropriate. Normally what we do is say: "Implementations that are not aware of this special feature will carry on processing as defined in [RFCfoo] with the following results..." Thanks, Adrian