From brian@innovationslab.net Mon Apr 22 06:17:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348FC21F8FA5 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:17:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e2jvpWozexql for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAA121F8F67 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FFD880A9 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 102523189.rudm1.ra.johnshopkins.edu (addr16212925014.ippl.jhmi.edu [162.129.250.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7513000C for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5175386A.10400@innovationslab.net> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:17:30 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <6E5736BD68F770449C74FBAD975F807C98329651@NYDC-EXCH01.vinci-consulting-corp.local> <514F8414.3000506@joelhalpern.com> <6E5736BD68F770449C74FBAD975F807C98329984@NYDC-EXCH01.vinci-consulting-corp.local> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [lisp] Multicast LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:17:26 -0000 Dino, On 3/24/13 8:52 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: > And also, link-local multicast groups are not explicitly joined. The above is not necessarily true. The MLD specifications state that a Report is sent for all multicast addresses except: - link-local all-nodes multicast address - multicast addresses with scopes 0 or 1 I have seen numerous packet traces where nodes have sent MLD Report messages for their solicited-node multicast addresses. This is all done to facilitate the use of snooping switches. 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[64.134.235.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ya4sm25713461pbb.24.2013.04.22.09.20.18 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <5175386A.10400@innovationslab.net> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:20:19 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <452A8C93-F728-4ACC-A63A-26B98B265762@gmail.com> References: <6E5736BD68F770449C74FBAD975F807C98329651@NYDC-EXCH01.vinci-consulting-corp.local> <514F8414.3000506@joelhalpern.com> <6E5736BD68F770449C74FBAD975F807C98329984@NYDC-EXCH01.vinci-consulting-corp.local> <5175386A.10400@innovationslab.net> To: Brian Haberman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Multicast LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:20:22 -0000 > Dino, >=20 > On 3/24/13 8:52 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote: >=20 >> And also, link-local multicast groups are not explicitly joined. >=20 > The above is not necessarily true. The MLD specifications state that = a Report is sent for all multicast addresses except: Yes, so do the IGMP specs but have not been implemented that way in = several implementations. > - link-local all-nodes multicast address > - multicast addresses with scopes 0 or 1 Right, aware of that. > I have seen numerous packet traces where nodes have sent MLD Report = messages for their solicited-node multicast addresses. This is all done = to facilitate the use of snooping switches. I was referring more to IPv4. Dino >=20 > Regards, > Brian >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From wassim.haddad@ericsson.com Fri Apr 26 22:34:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B5021F9910 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:34:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GBDn0jhOOO4Z for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BE521F9909 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f0d6d00000097e-5f-517b637aab5f Received: from EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.96]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 3E.8D.02430.A736B715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:34:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.181) by EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se (147.117.188.96) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.328.9; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:34:49 -0400 Received: from pc122035.exu.ericsson.se (147.117.20.214) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.182) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:34:48 -0400 From: Wassim Haddad Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2AF30863-8DE5-454E-B534-C8B2BF076A21" Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:34:53 -0700 Message-ID: <45906E0D-1454-455D-884F-EA16549A1DFA@ericsson.com> To: Darrel Lewis , Florin Coras , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lor=E1nd_Jakab?= , Albert Cabellos , Jordi Domingo-Pascual MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrNLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPgm5VcnWgwZSbNhYzFm1mtZg38Qmj xbUrjYwWq16fYLOYclbd4uI3SQc2jyVLLjB6TPm9kRXI+skUwBzFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlbFx yjzGgs98FT9mdLE0MM7g7WLk5JAQMJFoWzydBcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5DAUUaJ7XNPMEI4exgl zkz+wgLhbGeUWHlrAxNIC5uAgcTX5WdZQWxmgSSJT8/PsIHYwgLWEhe2L2EHsVkEVCUWHN3D CGLzCthLPDv9lA2i3l5i85eTTCBDRQRuMkrcbvzIAlGkJ7H19So2iJtkJV4/fwMWFxJQl5hy awLLBEb+WUj2zULSAhHXlli28DUzhK0jsWD3J6i4vMT2t3OYYWrOHHjMtICRbRUjR2lxallu upHBJkZggB+TYNPdwbjnpeUhRmkOFiVx3klSlYFCAumJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5qcWHGJk4OKUa GHul5jRO/mbQ63ttYWJV2Rz5hHffj5g8N7RyLTBa6Lpk95HjT2wVAv12LMgpUivS3P3cVpOf iWOV05lwnnjt5ioGYWGN2l/3ZXM2tN/+tner7cGj01+90Jp7LibF+N88i51Hzq95+jRjt5hU wYL6acw716zj1gpfL/P806pvqXvMCk8Z5AU4SCqxFGckGmoxFxUnAgDJgZSRPgIAAA== Cc: lisp@ietf.org Subject: [lisp] Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-07 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 05:34:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2AF30863-8DE5-454E-B534-C8B2BF076A21 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear all, I am the document shepherd for draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-07. In order = for me to complete the shepherd writeup, I would like first to ask the = authors and the WG if any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required = for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have = already been filed. Regards, Wassim H. --Apple-Mail=_2AF30863-8DE5-454E-B534-C8B2BF076A21 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Dear all,

I am the document shepherd for draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-07. In order for me to complete the shepherd writeup, I would like first to ask the authors and the WG if any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed.


Regards,

Wassim H.



--Apple-Mail=_2AF30863-8DE5-454E-B534-C8B2BF076A21-- From johnsonhammond1@hushmail.com Sat Apr 27 10:43:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BB521F9778 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:43:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9pwqeG2Se-Uc for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (smtp5a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7685C21F949A for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (smtp5a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.235]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BA59580B2 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.80]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id EA2D9E6736; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:43:55 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:43:55 -0400 To: lisp@ietf.org From: johnsonhammond1@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20130427174355.EA2D9E6736@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: [lisp] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:30:46 -0000 Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP. DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers about WORLDCOMP. The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever! Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com Search Google using the keyword worldcomp fake for additional links. From ljakab@ac.upc.edu Mon Apr 29 08:21:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7865A21F9D17 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ioXrc3vDoBH5 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5385021F9D12 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.ac.upc.edu (gw.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.3]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r3TFLE3V018813; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:21:14 +0200 Received: from [10.21.150.137] (128-107-239-233.cisco.com [128.107.239.233]) by gw.ac.upc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434A86B01C4; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:21:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <517E8FE3.5000903@ac.upc.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:21:07 +0300 From: Lori Jakab Organization: UPC/BarcelonaTECH MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wassim Haddad References: <45906E0D-1454-455D-884F-EA16549A1DFA@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <45906E0D-1454-455D-884F-EA16549A1DFA@ericsson.com> OpenPGP: url=http://personals.ac.upc.edu/ljakab/lorand.jakab.pub.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lisp@ietf.org, Jordi Domingo-Pascual Subject: Re: [lisp] Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-07 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:31 -0000 Hi Wassim, On 04/27/2013 08:34 AM, Wassim Haddad wrote: > Dear all, > > I am the document shepherd for draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-07. In order > for me to complete the shepherd writeup, I would like first to ask the > authors and the WG if any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required > for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have > already been filed. Nothing has been filed that applies to this draft, and I'm are unaware of any IPR outstanding. Best regards, -Lori