From nobody Sun Mar 2 02:25:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC41A0C5E for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:25:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87H2mF4QPPFr for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198BD1A0C2A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C342408EA for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:25:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maila2.tigertech.net Received: from dhcp-bc03.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-bc03.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.188.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94923240172 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:25:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53130701.6040604@joelhalpern.com> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 05:25:05 -0500 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/ZjhhT4vzEH9kFE1HtkXY_4fdygg Subject: [lisp] Presenters X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 10:25:10 -0000 If you have a slot and are planning to use slides, we need them ASAP! Please get them to the chairs. Thank you, Joel From nobody Mon Mar 3 02:00:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98771A0DAD for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:00:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.747 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.747 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NAQthYgLM0rO for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2362E1A0643 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:00:22 -0800 From: Terry Manderson To: "lisp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:00:20 -0800 Thread-Topic: [lisp] Presenters Thread-Index: Ac82x2OiH0/oJ1KNQ0qUm5GWVWx5rg== Message-ID: References: <53130701.6040604@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <53130701.6040604@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3476721620_8198188" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/36NzFv5QkNY3VeWN3p-jnwO11Fk Subject: Re: [lisp] Presenters X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:00:34 -0000 --B_3476721620_8198188 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Folks, Wearing my stern looking WG Bowler.. If you are listed as having a slot in the agenda (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/89/agenda/lisp/), and you DO NOT see your slides here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/89/materials.html (under 'LISP') Please email me your slides by midday today. Cheers Terry On 2/03/14 8:25 PM, "Joel M. Halpern" wrote: >If you have a slot and are planning to use slides, we need them ASAP! >Please get them to the chairs. > >Thank you, >Joel > >_______________________________________________ >lisp mailing list >lisp@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --B_3476721620_8198188 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIITvAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIITrTCCE6kCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC EYgwggcDMIIF66ADAgECAhAPz2lJUZsAlD35l4oJxf0FMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlVTMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxEaWdpQ2VydCBJbmMxGTAXBgNVBAsTEHd3dy5kaWdpY2Vy dC5jb20xITAfBgNVBAMTGERpZ2lDZXJ0IEFzc3VyZWQgSUQgQ0EtMTAeFw0xMjAzMjcwMDAw MDBaFw0xNTAzMjcxMjAwMDBaMIGsMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzETMBEGA1UECBMKQ2FsaWZvcm5p YTEXMBUGA1UEBxMOTWFyaW5hIGRlbCBSZXkxPDA6BgNVBAoTM0ludGVybmV0IENvcnBvcmF0 aW9uIGZvciBBc3NpZ25lZCBOYW1lcyBhbmQgTnVtYmVyczEXMBUGA1UECxMORE5TIE9wZXJh 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http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/9UlGPy1UNBZ-vun7RO0IgWhFryM Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-00 posted last week X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 15:56:16 -0000 --089e013a07f09c45ee04f3b5d3b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dino, Thx for presentation ! Is the idea to use Dif=EF=AC=81e-Hellman forever ? Don't you need some space for the versioning to accommodate easy upgrades of the algorithms used between ITRs and ETRs ? IMHO ON/OFF indication is not sufficient. Thx, R. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote= : > Just an FYI at a first stab at providing data-plane confidentiality in > LISP. > > Dino > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > --089e013a07f09c45ee04f3b5d3b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dino,

Thx for presentation !=C2=A0

Is the idea to use=C2=A0Dif=EF=AC=81e-Hel= lman forever ?=C2=A0

Don't you need some space for the ver= sioning to accommodate easy upgrades of the algorithms used between ITRs an= d ETRs ?=C2=A0

IMHO ON/OFF indic= ation is not sufficient.=C2=A0

Thx,
R.
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Just an FYI at a first stab at providing dat= a-plane confidentiality in LISP.

Dino

_______________________________________________
lisp mailing list
lisp@ietf.org
ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp

--089e013a07f09c45ee04f3b5d3b0-- From nobody Mon Mar 3 08:01:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C263E1A00AF for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:00:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AtYz5LEaan43 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x233.google.com (mail-ie0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2101A0051 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id lx4so1083665iec.10 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 08:00:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8o1k4UalWiLpUdGAKqQO+X519TPFq0o9+I54+jUWQF4=; b=BC51BtEHMH1BM/c7Xa7YbV0y+Ql4QY3AlaCAMitXvCgLW6P9+fUYkGlwGZsnVGtLc9 LwVnWqdbXbQSAcheFjrcwS5NR+zbOhWZ0giwTzurT7R653mXkbj2IzThBPaXB08w3AtV B3JFyWOVj5MB1zo5T2/cxZhkmKHmXFKh4iR7mI3HJqB9EBXscWQeuHmw7e8dodEqRqSB JtzTFfVAVHGP/+xeRj/RsuQD9qmVYQVdq6wAy3FTvQc+PHXyw7/73s69iGjsY2G/g28p 8BadKATW86ZiiT708p7hUtVvXxLpcDIGtlzFwYfhqVuD6+NBW+QGg/LFX+D2K1vmol8n lMAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.225 with SMTP id z1mr22536026igl.29.1393862450084; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 08:00:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.251.199 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:00:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <77CBDACC-F544-4C2C-8AB3-BD3C2E41A408@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:00:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uX1548FVpPG0rKpraank9qxg2DA Message-ID: From: Robert Raszuk To: Dino Farinacci Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8dd63406b104f3b5e4da Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/8BGiitgls_BCmpGLHu_vKoryBUU Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-00 posted last week X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:00:59 -0000 --089e010d8dd63406b104f3b5e4da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thx Joel ! Yes I did not mean to load mapping system with anything. It all should stay out of mapping plane and be only exchanged between xTRs. Cheers, R. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hi Dino, > > Thx for presentation ! > > Is the idea to use Dif=EF=AC=81e-Hellman forever ? > > Don't you need some space for the versioning to accommodate easy upgrades > of the algorithms used between ITRs and ETRs ? > > IMHO ON/OFF indication is not sufficient. > > Thx, > R. > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Dino Farinacci wrot= e: > >> Just an FYI at a first stab at providing data-plane confidentiality in >> LISP. >> >> Dino >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >> > > --089e010d8dd63406b104f3b5e4da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thx Joel !=C2=A0

Yes I did not mean to load mapping system with anything. It all should stay= out of mapping plane and be only exchanged between xTRs.

Cheers,
R.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Robert R= aszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
Hi Dino,

Thx for presentation !=C2=A0

Is the idea to use=C2=A0Dif=EF=AC=81e-Hel= lman forever ?=C2=A0

Don't you need some space for the ver= sioning to accommodate easy upgrades of the algorithms used between ITRs an= d ETRs ?=C2=A0

IMHO ON/OFF indic= ation is not sufficient.=C2=A0

Thx,
R.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',mono= space;font-size:small">


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM,= Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
Just an FYI at a first stab at providing dat= a-plane confidentiality in LISP.

Dino

_______________________________________________
lisp mailing list
lisp@ietf.org
ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp


--089e010d8dd63406b104f3b5e4da-- From nobody Mon Mar 3 08:01:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411971A018C for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:01:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eG8MKCrLI-nz for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197721A0171 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8136124323C; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:01:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maila2.tigertech.net Received: from dhcp-bfe8.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-bfe8.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.191.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 093C424116C; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:01:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5314A750.7090100@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 11:01:20 -0500 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Raszuk , "lisp@ietf.org" References: <77CBDACC-F544-4C2C-8AB3-BD3C2E41A408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/l_kdJuy4_zrwL7mm97570PEZ3OY Subject: Re: [lisp] draft-farinacci-lisp-crypto-00 posted last week X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 16:01:26 -0000 Not sure if you are in the room, or listening remotely. Just brought this up in the room, and indicated that we need to address agility in both key derivation functions and encryption algorithms. Yours, Joel On 3/3/14, 10:56 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hi Dino, > > Thx for presentation ! > > Is the idea to use Diffie-Hellman forever ? > > Don't you need some space for the versioning to accommodate easy > upgrades of the algorithms used between ITRs and ETRs ? > > IMHO ON/OFF indication is not sufficient. > > Thx, > R. > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Dino Farinacci > wrote: > > Just an FYI at a first stab at providing data-plane confidentiality > in LISP. > > Dino > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > From nobody Mon Mar 3 10:14:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F2A1A0122 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:14:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.737 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.737 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mW_3Wcuri9oI for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.fortinet.com (smtp.fortinet.com [208.91.113.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AD11A003B for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:13:13 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Lopez To: "lisp@ietf.org list" Thread-Topic: A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP Thread-Index: AQHPNww8b2z7LAwvt0OI7waAfMayqQ== Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:13:10 +0000 Message-ID: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [31.133.160.246] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_005_6BC34AAFE8D84D94BF8667BA834564CCfortinetcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FEAS-SYSTEM-WL: 192.168.221.212 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/W7Vzua32Q9OHKFDg2QPgfLwfOzM Subject: [lisp] A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:14:04 -0000 --_005_6BC34AAFE8D84D94BF8667BA834564CCfortinetcom_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6BC34AAFE8D84D94BF8667BA834564CCfortinetcom_" --_000_6BC34AAFE8D84D94BF8667BA834564CCfortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First off, I apologize to all for my absence on the mailing list, particu= larly Dino. My company is relatively new to IETF WG participation, and t= here were some backend discussions I had to have back at corporate to ens= ure that I was both in compliance with the IETF Note Well, as well as my = company=92s internal IP processes. This has been resolved, and I will be= resuming active participation on the list. At the time, I was working with Dino on crypto solutions for LISP. Enclo= sed in my draft regarding opportunistic encryption for LISP. While there= are significant similarities with regard to the goals of one exchange of= key material, non-reliance on PKI, nor storing keys on the mapping syste= m, I proposed the use of IPSec ESP in transport mode for the actual encry= ption of packets between xTRs, as opposed to developing support for encry= ption within the LISP protocol itself. I feel this has significant advan= tages toward ease of deployment and hardware acceleration, as well as sup= port for multiple available encryption/hash algorithms. The use of the security type (11) LCAF is very similar, except I propose = that the Key Algorithm field be used to support encryption/hash algorithm= sets, rather than individual algorithms. In this way, we can use Key Co= unt values to signify ITF preferences. Another significant different is that this draft makes use of the R-bit t= o signal when Keys should be revoked, and can be used locally by xTRs to = signal expiry conditions such as lifetime, peer detection failure, etc. Thanks! Ed Lopez *** Please note that this message and any attachments may contain confid= ential and proprietary material and information and are intended only for the us= e of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are= hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or= copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have r= eceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy thi= s e-mail and any attachments and all copies, whether electronic or printed. Please also note that any views, opinions, conclusions or commitments exp= ressed in this message are those of the individual sender and do not necessarily= reflect the views of Fortinet, Inc., its affiliates, and emails are not binding o= n Fortinet and only a writing manually signed by Fortinet's General Counsel= can be a binding commitment of Fortinet to Fortinet's customers or partners. Tha= nk you. *** --_000_6BC34AAFE8D84D94BF8667BA834564CCfortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <418F99D512B4F14F810A9745BD74BBFE@fortinet-us.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First off, I apologize to all for my absence on the mailing list, pa= rticularly Dino.  My company is relatively new to IETF WG participat= ion, and there were some backend discussions I had to have back at corpor= ate to ensure that I was both in compliance with the IETF Note Well, as well as my company=92s internal IP processes= .  This has been resolved, and I will be resuming active participati= on on the list.

At the time, I was working with Dino on crypto solutions for LISP. &= nbsp;Enclosed in my draft regarding opportunistic encryption for LISP. &n= bsp;While there are significant similarities with regard to the goals of = one exchange of key material, non-reliance on PKI, nor storing keys on the mapping system, I proposed the use of IPSec ESP = in transport mode for the actual encryption of packets between xTRs, as o= pposed to developing support for encryption within the LISP protocol itse= lf.  I feel this has significant advantages toward ease of deployment and hardware acceleration, as well as support = for multiple available encryption/hash algorithms.

The use of the security type (11) LCAF is very similar, except I pro= pose that the Key Algorithm field be used to support encryption/hash algo= rithm sets, rather than individual algorithms.  In this way, we can = use Key Count values to signify ITF preferences.

Another significant different is that this draft makes use of the R-= bit to signal when Keys should be revoked, and can be used locally by xTR= s to signal expiry conditions such as lifetime, peer detection failure, e= tc.

Thanks! 

Ed Lopez


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localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5301A021E for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:19:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.737 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.737 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iZUitE0PAIMY for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.fortinet.com (smtp.fortinet.com [208.91.113.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77B11A0213 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:19:36 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Lopez To: "lisp@ietf.org list" Thread-Topic: A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP Thread-Index: AQHPNww8b2z7LAwvt0OI7waAfMayqZrQp5CA Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 01:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: <8D969E27-2BBE-4BE7-80C1-14675C2255B5@fortinet.com> References: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> In-Reply-To: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [78.149.18.188] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_005_8D969E272BBE4BE780C114675C2255B5fortinetcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FEAS-SYSTEM-WL: 192.168.221.212 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/doVsOlMR4nxKjKhOdW5Cb_PxGws Subject: Re: [lisp] A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 01:19:42 -0000 --_005_8D969E272BBE4BE780C114675C2255B5fortinetcom_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8D969E272BBE4BE780C114675C2255B5fortinetcom_" --_000_8D969E272BBE4BE780C114675C2255B5fortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I=92ve previously noted, there was a significant lapse in time since I= was able to last work on this draft for lisp-oe. Even then, there was a= significant difference between myself and Dino regarding the methodology= of actually encrypting the packets, where lisp-oe using IPSec ESP, and l= isp-crypto is evolving its own methodology. While we will both construct= ively agree to disagree, Dino has asked me to remove his name from my dra= ft, as to not misrepresent his position. Both lisp-crypto and lisp-oe agree on the need to establish a key within = a single packet exchange, which I do believe is the critical work. It ma= y be possible to join work on commonality within the key-exchange aspects= of the drafts, while working separately on the actual LISP packet encryp= tion scheme. Attached is 'draft-lopez-lisp-oe-01=92, which reflects this change. Thanks! Ed Lopez *** Please note that this message and any attachments may contain confid= ential and proprietary material and information and are intended only for the us= e of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are= hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or= copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have r= eceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy thi= s e-mail and any attachments and all copies, whether electronic or printed. Please also note that any views, opinions, conclusions or commitments exp= ressed in this message are those of the individual sender and do not necessarily= reflect the views of Fortinet, Inc., its affiliates, and emails are not binding o= n Fortinet and only a writing manually signed by Fortinet's General Counsel= can be a binding commitment of Fortinet to Fortinet's customers or partners. Tha= nk you. *** --_000_8D969E272BBE4BE780C114675C2255B5fortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <8664C1571D22B945B3533EA2BDDCD67D@fortinet-us.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I=92ve previously noted, there was a significant lapse in time since I= was able to last work on this draft for lisp-oe.  Even then, there = was a significant difference between myself and Dino regarding the method= ology of actually encrypting the packets, where lisp-oe using IPSec ESP, and lisp-crypto is evolving its own methodology= .  While we will both constructively agree to disagree, Dino has ask= ed me to remove his name from my draft, as to not misrepresent his positi= on.

Both lisp-crypto and lisp-oe agree on the need to establish a key wi= thin a single packet exchange, which I do believe is the critical work. &= nbsp;It may be possible to join work on commonality within the key-exchan= ge aspects of the drafts, while working separately on the actual LISP packet encryption scheme.

Attached is 'draft-lopez-lisp-oe-01=92, which reflects this change.<= /div>

Thanks!
Ed Lopez


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(Postfix) with ESMTP id B01761A0123 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.sniff.de [127.0.0.1]) by door.sniff.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61382AA0F; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 02:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:01:04 -0800 From: Marc Binderberger To: Isidoros Kouvelas (kouvelas) , ccassar@cisco.com, Darrel Lewis (darlewis) , LISP mailing list list Message-ID: <20140303180104006703.80a87a81@sniff.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.5.15 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/fvFxB_yewdAB40IhKCVWrT2ntyM Subject: [lisp] Some questions about draft-kouvelas-lisp-reliable-transport-00 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 02:01:14 -0000 Hello LISP experts, hello Isidoros/Christian/Darrel, had a quick look at your draft - and now I have some questions. You make the statement that your proposal avoids the load problem of periodic registration and processing. But I wonder if you simply move the problem out of the LISP domain. What do I mean: protocols like BGP and LDP use explicit KeepAlive messages on the TCP session. The rationale is (from the LDP and BGP RFCs): LDP uses the regular receipt of LDP PDUs on the session transport connection to monitor the integrity of the session. KEEPALIVE messages may be sent periodically to ensure that the connection is live. Have there been improvements in TCP implementations that make such checks unnecessary today? My guess is what you can achieve is reducing per-EID refresh/timeout with a per-session or per-xTR timeout (?). Which is no small achievement. But your statement goes further - and I don't fully buy into it :-) Another statement in your draft says The use of the reliable transport session for EID prefix registration is an alternative and does not replace the existing UDP based mechanism. Okay, you describe the coexistence of periodic and stateful in section 6.2 but the question I have is: is this wise to mix a soft-state and a stateful protocol definition? I'm not arguing in favour for one of them but it seems a duplication of work to implement both. Which again is fine for some interim period if you plan to morph LISP from soft state to hard state (?). But that's not what you state. So I wonder if splitting this into at least two orthogonal aspects was considered: (1) replacing the UDP socket with a TCP socket to allow large updates and get PMTU discovery, retransmit etc. for free, solving the reliability for large EID updates. And (2) per-xTR keepalive to address large scale problems on the map server. That is large scale either in EID prefixes and/or large number of xTRs. This would keep the soft state at the core but add improvements. Again, just wonder if this was discussed and if so what made the decision to go for an additional hard-state implementation? Best regards, Marc From nobody Tue Mar 4 06:58:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0296A1A00F1 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 06:58:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.747 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.747 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eFOxHEgJmGDR for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 06:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.fortinet.com (smtp.fortinet.com [208.91.113.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01481A01CA for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 06:58:37 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Lopez To: "lisp@ietf.org list" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHPN6voCbGgTQHSCUCbWbq3vtMDYA== Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:58:33 +0000 Message-ID: <9409D39D-DC4F-49B9-87F3-2519AED51399@fortinet.com> References: <20140304131605.26052.44723.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [90.152.43.254] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9409D39DDC4F49B987F32519AED51399fortinetcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FEAS-SYSTEM-WL: 192.168.221.213 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/H-nBy25VFd7W6O0UvFhr7_nNdyM Subject: [lisp] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:41 -0000 --_000_9409D39DDC4F49B987F32519AED51399fortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=92ve submitted draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt. I apologize for being a new= bie with regards to drafts, so please discard any versions of the draft I= sent directly on the list, and use the submitted version relative to rev= iew and comments Thanks! Ed Lopez Begin forwarded message: From: > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:16:05 AM EST To: "elopez@fortinet.com" >, Edward Lopez > A new version of I-D, draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Edward Lopez and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-lopez-lisp-oe Revision: 00 Title: Opportunistic Encryption for the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (L= ISP) Document date: 2014-03-04 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 11 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lopez-lisp-oe-0= 0.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lopez-lisp-oe/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00 Abstract: The Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP), allows the creation of VPNs between routing locators (RLOCs). As LISP encapsulated packets are generally expected to traverse publically routed spaces, it is desirable to encrypt the payloads of these packets, to protect them from pervasive surveillance attacks. This document describes a methodology to encrypt LISP encapsulated packets, as they traverse between RLOCs. For a full description of LISP, please consult [RFC6830]. 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I=92ve submitted draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt.  I apologize for b= eing a newbie with regards to drafts, so please discard any versions of t= he draft I sent directly on the list, and use the submitted version relat= ive to review and comments

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A new version of I-D, draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Edward Lopez and posted to the
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Name: draft-lopez-= lisp-oe
Revision: 00
Title: Opportunist= ic Encryption for the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP)
Document date: <= /span>2014-03-04
Group: Individual = Submission
Pages: 11
URL:            = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lopez-lisp-oe-00.txt
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Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lopez= -lisp-oe-00


Abstract:
  The Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP), allows the creatio= n of
  VPNs between routing locators (RLOCs).  As LISP encapsul= ated packets
  are generally expected to traverse publically routed spaces, = it is
  desirable to encrypt the payloads of these packets, to protec= t them
  from pervasive surveillance attacks.  This document desc= ribes a
  methodology to encrypt LISP encapsulated packets, as they tra= verse
  between RLOCs.

  For a full description of LISP, please consult [RFC6830].
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--_000_9409D39DDC4F49B987F32519AED51399fortinetcom_-- From nobody Tue Mar 4 08:41:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934F91A0191 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:41:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yjU4BPLhZYKX for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C681A01A8 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:41:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3641; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1393951303; x=1395160903; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=KfSLi8zKsJwu4tMIrYoCIFDlAOZ/ZTOF2dOpUHgWrbE=; b=P4CdAJZ3p19YlCJdIQjhxz9tC+cTh82JIARP4BoTgvEcE4TavgCw4OaF zKLJ0144KucJHBurDeKwDV5GNa4A/RViIohP2s99p9HEZiVOTL2KNwny1 k8URAyt4J4CdK7Lfwa+4yO22oVw5VOt2FHPqcI2tzQoSRKQCX5E7Vy5Yq 8=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,585,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="2377846" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2014 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from dhcp-10-61-106-71.cisco.com (dhcp-10-61-106-71.cisco.com [10.61.106.71]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s24Gfdkg012873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:41:41 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Isidoros Kouvelas In-Reply-To: <20140303180104006703.80a87a81@sniff.de> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:41:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3DD09DE8-4230-4515-9123-822979A50A3C@cisco.com> References: <20140303180104006703.80a87a81@sniff.de> To: Marc Binderberger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/KBWkfKmNS_vhEICh-atV_I-lM4U Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Some questions about draft-kouvelas-lisp-reliable-transport-00 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:41:48 -0000 Marc, Thanks for the comments. Inline=85 On Mar 4, 2014, at 4:01, Marc Binderberger wrote: > Hello LISP experts, hello Isidoros/Christian/Darrel, >=20 > had a quick look at your draft - and now I have some questions. >=20 >=20 > You make the statement that your proposal avoids the load problem of=20= > periodic registration and processing. But I wonder if you simply move=20= > the problem out of the LISP domain. What do I mean: >=20 > protocols like BGP and LDP use explicit KeepAlive messages on the TCP=20= > session. The rationale is (from the LDP and BGP RFCs): >=20 > LDP uses the regular receipt of LDP PDUs on the session transport > connection to monitor the integrity of the session. >=20 > KEEPALIVE messages may be sent periodically to ensure that the > connection is live. >=20 > Have there been improvements in TCP implementations that make such=20 > checks unnecessary today? >=20 >=20 > My guess is what you can achieve is reducing per-EID refresh/timeout=20= > with a per-session or per-xTR timeout (?). Which is no small=20 > achievement. But your statement goes further - and I don't fully buy=20= > into it :-) We have two different requirements. One is to be able to communicate EID = to RLOC registrations the other is to be able to detect session = liveness. The periodic UDP registrations cover both as if the MS reloads = the next periodic registration will rebuild the MS state. With the = reliable transport what we are doing is eliminating the periodic = overhead of EID registrations. You are correct that some periodic = processing is still necessary for liveness purposes (either at the TCP = level or through keep-alives on top of the session). The benefit is that = the keep-alive is now independent of the EID prefix scale. > Another statement in your draft says >=20 > The use of the reliable transport > session for EID prefix registration is an alternative and does not > replace the existing UDP based mechanism. >=20 > Okay, you describe the coexistence of periodic and stateful in section=20= > 6.2 but the question I have is: is this wise to mix a soft-state and a=20= > stateful protocol definition? I'm not arguing in favour for one of=20 > them but it seems a duplication of work to implement both. Which again=20= > is fine for some interim period if you plan to morph LISP from soft=20 > state to hard state (?). But that's not what you state. >=20 > So I wonder if splitting this into at least two orthogonal aspects was=20= > considered: (1) replacing the UDP socket with a TCP socket to allow=20 > large updates and get PMTU discovery, retransmit etc. for free, = solving=20 > the reliability for large EID updates. And (2) per-xTR keepalive to=20 > address large scale problems on the map server. That is large scale=20 > either in EID prefixes and/or large number of xTRs. > This would keep the soft state at the core but add improvements. >=20 > Again, just wonder if this was discussed and if so what made the=20 > decision to go for an additional hard-state implementation? Maintaining compatibility with existing code and keeping the barrier for = new implementations low is significant. There are also several use cases = with a small number of EID prefixes per xTR that can still work = perfectly well with the existing UDP based registration model. For = example mobile node would never have more than a single EID prefix and = the changing RLOC would complicate reliable transport session = maintenance. thanks Isidor From nobody Tue Mar 4 23:33:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28B51A0341 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwGAfQYzNK_L for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20071A02C7 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id t61so702962wes.31 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 23:33:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=inba0rZn1IS3O01gL3LXS7WB9qNBFKMvk0F2dVxV0VE=; b=mNTrgwbLH0BxYX3C30XQe42vEz0+71lvD8AiIdbLKajghp+Vejdg0xDWj46lOc909g z76g8qptXzxtz8hRUGgSw2aMge/7oG46+5ohQiLEVmFSHNRjeC8slQ2XAUdgveeT6/eg ch+ebAxBroTjoRARYxtTOKjCf5jFqmoZiLgfiPknkztmXzTCnOHnykQwKMuWe5UE9m8K WTZJNeM7KCKNINgd/f5CwCImwcD43MtPbNZzJsv+Qa5SnI7xy5dfu+dxVjXyMDYJByAx X9s1rk3Xfq8j4j+HggjKZ4cmY0TTkwQwnECDxL9fUY+SGaMlNDkVXHYIalIaVGplG20Y LDVw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.204.229 with SMTP id lb5mr5783134wjc.67.1394004784899; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 23:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.175.74 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Mar 2014 23:33:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> References: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:33:04 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_J=F8rgensen?= To: Edward Lopez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/dmSQClJLFim5sTKz8mUhl7TiWco Cc: "lisp@ietf.org list" Subject: Re: [lisp] A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:33:11 -0000 Not sure where to start but here we go. In short - on the background of that draft, I think it's quite respect less what you have gone and done. That's how _I_ see it. On the technical part, IPSec is nothing new, but I'm not going to comment on that. Some months ago I contacted Dino and started to discuss how we could encrypt all traffic between xTR's without involving the users at all. Or there could be an option for the EID-space holder to tell the mapping system that he only would accept encrypted traffic, or only some encryptions. I thought we could get something done and that work are in Dino's draft. And that's where _I_ started. During my discussion with Dino he involved other people, including you. I understood there was some previous work in progress and we was discussing to merge all that into one draft that you should write together with Dino and me. Then you went silent for weeks, I got no spare time so Dino went and wrote it all himself, that's Dino's draft. And now you show up with a draft with your name on, Dino has asked his to be removed for obvious reason since we've worked on his draft for quite some time now. You could have told us some weeks/months ago that you were working on a draft on your own, that's the least _I_ would have expected. Any future comments/involving from my side will be on technical things. --- Roger J --- On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Edward Lopez wrote: > First off, I apologize to all for my absence on the mailing list, > particularly Dino. My company is relatively new to IETF WG participation, > and there were some backend discussions I had to have back at corporate to > ensure that I was both in compliance with the IETF Note Well, as well as my > company's internal IP processes. This has been resolved, and I will be > resuming active participation on the list. > > At the time, I was working with Dino on crypto solutions for LISP. Enclosed > in my draft regarding opportunistic encryption for LISP. While there are > significant similarities with regard to the goals of one exchange of key > material, non-reliance on PKI, nor storing keys on the mapping system, I > proposed the use of IPSec ESP in transport mode for the actual encryption of > packets between xTRs, as opposed to developing support for encryption within > the LISP protocol itself. I feel this has significant advantages toward > ease of deployment and hardware acceleration, as well as support for > multiple available encryption/hash algorithms. > > The use of the security type (11) LCAF is very similar, except I propose > that the Key Algorithm field be used to support encryption/hash algorithm > sets, rather than individual algorithms. In this way, we can use Key Count > values to signify ITF preferences. > > Another significant different is that this draft makes use of the R-bit to > signal when Keys should be revoked, and can be used locally by xTRs to > signal expiry conditions such as lifetime, peer detection failure, etc. > > Thanks! > > Ed Lopez > > > ________________________________ > *** Please note that this message and any attachments may contain > confidential and proprietary material and information and are intended only > for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, > dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments > is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please > immediately notify the sender and destroy this e-mail and any attachments > and all copies, whether electronic or printed. 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Thank > you. *** > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rogerj@gmail.com | - IPv6 is The Key! http://www.jorgensen.no | roger@jorgensen.no From nobody Wed Mar 5 05:36:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2611A0041 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 05:36:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y4Cw8gtbwiQb for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 05:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.fortinet.com (smtp.fortinet.com [208.91.113.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19881A011B for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2014 05:36:12 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Lopez To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Roger_J=F8rgensen?= Thread-Topic: [lisp] A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP Thread-Index: AQHPNww8b2z7LAwvt0OI7waAfMayqZrSok0AgABlbgA= Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 13:36:07 +0000 Message-ID: <82219FA3-931F-4B62-A532-C6AA0E747050@fortinet.com> References: <6BC34AAF-E8D8-4D94-BF86-67BA834564CC@fortinet.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [31.133.165.29] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_82219FA3931F4B62A532C6AA0E747050fortinetcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FEAS-SYSTEM-WL: 192.168.221.212 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/bHMT4qgtwh5UwvUoe1gKmQG0mTU Cc: "lisp@ietf.org list" Subject: Re: [lisp] A Stab At Opportunistic Encryption for LISP X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:36:17 -0000 --_000_82219FA3931F4B62A532C6AA0E747050fortinetcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger, Perfectly fair comments. I can only apologize by saying that security com= panies like Fortinet are highly protective of their intellectual property= . As a product VP, any external submissions I make are internally subjec= t to legal review. As this was my first draft submission, and my company= =92s first forays in IETF WG participation, I was blocked pending interna= l review. To satisfy both the IETF Note Well as well as my company=92s i= nternal policies, I was effectively gagged. I did not post to any WG dur= ing that time. This was my situation until I met with counsel back at HQ= while attending the RSA conference last week. I could have submitted the draft at that time, but as you noted, Dino=92s= draft was up for discussion, and I thought it best not to confuse the to= pic. However, prior to my going silent, there was a direction towards pe= rforming a single packet exchange for key material. I also admit that we= had differences regarding my suggestion to use IPSec ESP as the mechanis= m for encrypting LISP packets. As my draft suggests, I still feel that w= hile the use of mapping messages and the Security Type LCAF to perform a = key material exchange is highly relevant to our efforts. However, the cr= eation of yet another encryption mechanism should not be, in my opinion. = IPSec is a very well established, both from a standards standpoint, as = well as from access to available code and commercial implementation. The= re are also many options to support hardware acceleration of ESP. I=92m = generally suggesting that while the use of IKE as a key exchange is not u= seful to us for obviously reasons, the use of ESP will allow us to provid= e opportunistic encryption for LISP, with a fast path toward multi-vendor= implementation. I admit there are negative aspects towards using ESP, most notably the in= crease in packet size and MTU calculation. My view is that this is an is= sue with any cryptographic system, particularly in the use of block cyphe= rs such as AES. Some packet expansion is inevitable. I also discount ar= guments that we should not change the outer header encapsulation, as the = use of an ESP header both obscures the fact that it is a LISP packet, as = well as provides the basic for maintaining the integrity of the encrypted= packet via cryptographic hashing. Again I apologize for the silence, and I hope you can accept my explanati= on. It was not my intention to be duplicitous, and I am as well disappoi= nted that there are competitive drafts. I believe that there is still co= mmon ground on the LCAF-based key exchange, and would like to work togeth= er on that aspect. However, in my view, the use of ESP as the LISP packe= t encryption mechanism is the better path to sustained interoperable impl= ementations. This is not intended to dissuade efforts towards lisp-crypt= o, but we may have to agree to disagree relative to the encryption mechan= ism Kind Regards Ed Lopez On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Roger J=F8rgensen > wrote: Not sure where to start but here we go. In short - on the background of that draft, I think it's quite respect less what you have gone and done. That's how _I_ see it. On the technical part, IPSec is nothing new, but I'm not going to comment on that. Some months ago I contacted Dino and started to discuss how we could encrypt all traffic between xTR's without involving the users at all. Or there could be an option for the EID-space holder to tell the mapping system that he only would accept encrypted traffic, or only some encryptions. I thought we could get something done and that work are in Dino's draft. And that's where _I_ started. During my discussion with Dino he involved other people, including you. I understood there was some previous work in progress and we was discussing to merge all that into one draft that you should write together with Dino and me. Then you went silent for weeks, I got no spare time so Dino went and wrote it all himself, that's Dino's draft. And now you show up with a draft with your name on, Dino has asked his to be removed for obvious reason since we've worked on his draft for quite some time now. You could have told us some weeks/months ago that you were working on a draft on your own, that's the least _I_ would have expected. Any future comments/involving from my side will be on technical things. --- Roger J --- On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Edward Lopez > wrote: First off, I apologize to all for my absence on the mailing list, particularly Dino. My company is relatively new to IETF WG participation= , and there were some backend discussions I had to have back at corporate t= o ensure that I was both in compliance with the IETF Note Well, as well as = my company's internal IP processes. This has been resolved, and I will be resuming active participation on the list. At the time, I was working with Dino on crypto solutions for LISP. Enclo= sed in my draft regarding opportunistic encryption for LISP. While there are= significant similarities with regard to the goals of one exchange of key material, non-reliance on PKI, nor storing keys on the mapping system, I proposed the use of IPSec ESP in transport mode for the actual encryption= of packets between xTRs, as opposed to developing support for encryption wit= hin the LISP protocol itself. I feel this has significant advantages toward ease of deployment and hardware acceleration, as well as support for multiple available encryption/hash algorithms. The use of the security type (11) LCAF is very similar, except I propose that the Key Algorithm field be used to support encryption/hash algorithm= sets, rather than individual algorithms. In this way, we can use Key Cou= nt values to signify ITF preferences. Another significant different is that this draft makes use of the R-bit t= o signal when Keys should be revoked, and can be used locally by xTRs to signal expiry conditions such as lifetime, peer detection failure, etc. Thanks! Ed Lopez ________________________________ *** Please note that this message and any attachments may contain confidential and proprietary material and information and are intended on= ly for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachment= s is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy this e-mail and any attachments= and all copies, whether electronic or printed. Please also note that any views, opinions, conclusions or commitments expressed in this message are= those of the individual sender and do not necessarily reflect the views o= f Fortinet, Inc., its affiliates, and emails are not binding on Fortinet an= d only a writing manually signed by Fortinet's General Counsel can be a binding commitment of Fortinet to Fortinet's customers or partners. Thank= you. *** ________________________________ _______________________________________________ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rogerj@gmail.com | - IPv6 is The Key! http://www.jorgensen.no | roger@jorgensen.no= *** Please note that this message and any attachments may contain confid= ential and proprietary material and information and are intended only for the us= e of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are= hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or= copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have r= eceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy thi= s e-mail and any attachments and all copies, whether electronic or printed. 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Roger,

Perfectly fair comments. I can only apologize by saying that securit= y companies like Fortinet are highly protective of their intellectual pro= perty.  As a product VP, any external submissions I make are interna= lly subject to legal review.  As this was my first draft submission, and my company=92s first forays in IETF WG parti= cipation, I was blocked pending internal review.  To satisfy both th= e IETF Note Well as well as my company=92s internal policies, I was effec= tively gagged.  I did not post to any WG during that time.  This was my situation until I met with counsel back at = HQ while attending the RSA conference last week.

I could have submitted the draft at that time, but as you noted, Din= o=92s draft was up for discussion, and I thought it best not to confuse t= he topic.  However, prior to my going silent, there was a direction = towards performing a single packet exchange for key material.  I also admit that we had differences regarding my su= ggestion to use IPSec ESP as the mechanism for encrypting LISP packets. &= nbsp;As my draft suggests, I still feel that while the use of mapping mes= sages and the Security Type LCAF to perform a key material exchange is highly relevant to our efforts.  However, the = creation of yet another encryption mechanism should not be, in my opinion= .   IPSec is a very well established, both from a standards standpoi= nt, as well as from access to available code and commercial implementation.  There are also many options to support = hardware acceleration of ESP.  I=92m generally suggesting that while= the use of IKE as a key exchange is not useful to us for obviously reaso= ns, the use of ESP will allow us to provide opportunistic encryption for LISP, with a fast path toward multi-vendor implementation= .

I admit there are negative aspects towards using ESP, most notably t= he increase in packet size and MTU calculation.  My view is that thi= s is an issue with any cryptographic system, particularly in the use of b= lock cyphers such as AES.  Some packet expansion is inevitable.  I also discount arguments that we should not change= the outer header encapsulation, as the use of an ESP header both obscure= s the fact that it is a LISP packet, as well as provides the basic for ma= intaining the integrity of the encrypted packet via cryptographic hashing.

Again I apologize for the silence, and I hope you can accept my expl= anation.  It was not my intention to be duplicitous, and I am as wel= l disappointed that there are competitive drafts.  I believe that th= ere is still common ground on the LCAF-based key exchange, and would like to work together on that aspect.  However,= in my view, the use of ESP as the LISP packet encryption mechanism is th= e better path to sustained interoperable implementations.  This is n= ot intended to dissuade efforts towards lisp-crypto, but we may have to agree to disagree relative to the encryption mechanis= m

Kind Regards
Ed = Lopez

On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Roger J=F8rgensen <rogerj@gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure where to start but here we go.

In short - on the background of that draft, I think it's quite respect less what you have gone and done. That's how _I_ see it.

On the technical part, IPSec is nothing new, but I'm not going to
comment on that.



Some months ago I contacted Dino and started to discuss how we could
encrypt all traffic between xTR's without involving the users at all.
= Or there could be an option for the EID-space holder to tell the
mapping system that he only would accept encrypted traffic, or only
some encryptions. I thought we could get something done and that work
= are in Dino's draft.
And that's where _I_ started.



During my discussion with Dino he involved other people, including
you. I understood there was some previous work in progress and we was
= discussing to merge all that into one draft that you should write
together with Dino and me. Then you went silent for weeks, I got no
spare time so Dino went and wrote it all himself, that's Dino's draft.
And now you show up with a draft with your name on, Dino has asked his to be removed for obvious reason since we've worked on his draft for
quite some time now.


You could have told us some weeks/months ago that you were working on
= a draft on your own, that's the least _I_ would have expected.



Any future comments/involving from my side will be on technical things.


--- Roger J ---

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Edward Lopez <elopez@fortinet.com> wrote:
First off, I apologize to all for my absence on= the mailing list,
particularly Dino.  My company is relatively new to IETF WG particip= ation,
and there were some backend discussions I had to have back at corporate t= o
ensure that I was both in compliance with the IETF Note Well, as well as = my
company's internal IP processes.  This has been resolved, and I will= be
resuming active participation on the list.

At the time, I was working with Dino on crypto solutions for LISP.  = Enclosed
in my draft regarding opportunistic encryption for LISP.  While ther= e are
significant similarities with regard to the goals of one exchange of key<= br> material, non-reliance on PKI, nor storing keys on the mapping system, I<= br> proposed the use of IPSec ESP in transport mode for the actual encryption= of
packets between xTRs, as opposed to developing support for encryption wit= hin
the LISP protocol itself.  I feel this has significant advantages to= ward
ease of deployment and hardware acceleration, as well as support for
multiple available encryption/hash algorithms.

The use of the security type (11) LCAF is very similar, except I propose<= br> that the Key Algorithm field be used to support encryption/hash algorithm=
sets, rather than individual algorithms.  In this way, we can use Ke= y Count
values to signify ITF preferences.

Another significant different is that this draft makes use of the R-bit t= o
signal when Keys should be revoked, and can be used locally by xTRs to signal expiry conditions such as lifetime, peer detection failure, etc.
Thanks!

Ed Lopez


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--_000_82219FA3931F4B62A532C6AA0E747050fortinetcom_-- From nobody Mon Mar 10 18:01:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2902D1A0675 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:01:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VOcfrhuS7e3g for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-5.cisco.com (alln-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.142.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB161A0671 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:01:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9055; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1394499664; x=1395709264; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ZEkMg7gAQaCu0LnvLWxFSH0fAf2SKxDYW9YpyFGlWdY=; b=HACf/Wp3XvhfmC7SAzlXADXkXBbBytt0ZxW33+FXCBIUv1H7A5M7dYER I3xDRj46UlTcpCS6ZVyln3x0vQyxLgweo2Zcsm5xOaCIrabdOfxMrM5Qa jkH3O+/7Jw1dM7VubhqgBFB9LSUFdA9v7/r4D8AnnJazfTHBZlCM+5xcC Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAGpfHlOtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABaDoJ4O1fBTIEeFnSCJQEBAQQBAQFiBgMdAQgOClULJQIEARIbh14N0AUTBI1wEwEkOoQ4BIkZjyySLYJuP4FpAR8i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,627,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="26410792" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by alln-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2014 01:01:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com [173.37.183.84]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s2B114Xm020414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:01:04 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.219]) by xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([173.37.183.84]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:01:03 -0500 From: "Lev Shvarts (lshvarts)" To: Florin Coras , "lisp@ietf.org" , "Marc Binderberger" Thread-Topic: [lisp] Questions about draft-saucez-lisp-itr-graceful-03 Thread-Index: AQHPLPuNuVnprPHu7E6F+XuVgbvMUZq8pqkAgACygICAAAaTgIAAA0qAgAAfu4CAADBygIAAGjaAgB1Sl4A= Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:01:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <530564DF.8030600@ac.upc.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [128.107.166.31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <4DF286E0E4AA8546A55E2EE70E884428@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/qwZrbolVP7xtJqJ4qW9OnCc1lFk Subject: Re: [lisp] Questions about draft-saucez-lisp-itr-graceful-03 X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:01:13 -0000 I think the general feeling is that introducing more complexity into the protocol, where the same can be achieved other ways, is unnecessary; however I agree there should be a general approach at handling the xTR restart. I like the second approach better to be honest - in a case that all the ITRs in the synchronization set be reachable via the same anycast ip. What this would mean is that all the flows will be load-balanced within the site and this will naturally synchronize the map-caches across the xTRs. A gracefully restarted ITR can define a GR timer during which packets arriving at it will trigger a redirect to one of the ITRs In the synchronization set and a [rate-limited] map-request for cache rebuilding. This approach wouldn=B9t solve the map-request storm problem posed, but thi= s can be solved with more rate-limiting! :-) The problem I see with the map-cache synchronization within a site is that a mapping is not retrieved from an authoritative source, so cache errors can propagate throughout the whole site. The LISP-specific part is a proper calculation of the GR timer. Simply it can be a knob, like Marc suggested, or a generally agreed upon timer value. Further implementation-specific bits could be based on the size of the local EID space(configured), or could be based on the rate of the packets that need to be encapsulated. Thank you, Lev. On 2/19/14, 6:13 PM, "Florin Coras" wrote: >On 02/20/2014 01:40 AM, Marc Binderberger wrote: >> Hello Dino et al., >> >>> Yes, what you describe can work. But once you deflect, the other ITR >>> still needs to send Map-Requests for all the new EIDs that are not >>> cached in the map-cache. >> True. Two options I see >> >> (a) rate-limit the map-requests from the just-reloaded ITR. All this >> does is some EIDs are a bit longer deflected >> >> (b) as Darrel explained it to me: if the MR/MS/mapping system cannot >> handle this from a single site then it's probably too weak and not fit >> for the job :-) > >What Dino meant, I think, is that all active, egressing flows passing >through the ITR to be reloaded (ITR1 in your example) will cache miss in >the backup ITR. I don't know if the problem you try to solve is is >theoretical or practical, but in the latter case, maybe it would be >easier just to provision a local caching Map-Resolver, close to the two >ITRs. > >Florin >> >> Regards, Marc >> >> >> >>> Dino >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Marc Binderberger wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Dino et al., >>>> >>>>>> but then the "Traffic deflection to other ITRs (or a PxTR)" could be >>>>>> used to fill the cache of the 2nd ITR (the one that is not >>>>>>reloaded). >>>>> Then you get sub-optimal routing. >>>>> >>>>>> You turn it on on ITR2 (off on ITR1), change your IGP to send all >>>>>>LISP >>>>>> data to remote sites to ITR2, "wait a bit", then ITR2 should be >>>>>>ready, >>>>> This is easier said then done. That means you have to inject *all >>>>> remote EID-prefixes* into your IGP. That is a non-starter. >>>> maybe I think too simple. Assuming you have two xTRs to connect your >>>> site to the LISP cloud. They both originate a default route into your >>>> site IGP. You then e.g. increase the metric of ITR1's default route or >>>> remove the default originated into the site IGP. Routing out of the >>>> site (to another EID) then moves to ITR2. >>>> >>>> Ingress is a different story, probably you need to reduce TTL for >>>> registrations sent from ITR1, so you end up traffic ingress will use >>>> ITR2 only (?). >>>> >>>> Then you are ready to reload ITR1. >>>> >>>> >>>> Long story short: using the "Traffic deflection to other ITRs" plus >>>>the >>>> right operational procedure may solve the problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, Marc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:41:19 -0800, Dino Farinacci wrote: >>>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for the reply! >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a solution to continuously synchronise ITRs caches, we >>>>>>> would be very happy to look at them and integrate them in the >>>>>>>proposed >>>>>>> solution. >>>>>> And I was curious to see a light-weight protocol extension from you >>>>>>:-) >>>>>> Seriously, was wondering if you see an elegant, light way to >>>>>>implement >>>>>> this in the LISP protocol (?). >>>>> Light-weight reads as non-robust and scalable. If you want those >>>>> things, you have to do it right. And you then implemented BGP. >>>>> >>>>> One reason people like LISP is because it is reasonably easy to >>>>> understand and employs *less protocol machinery* rather than more. >>>>> >>>>>>> the purpose of the document is to deal with planned restart of >>>>>>>routers >>>>>>> meaning that we know exactly when the routeur will get down then up >>>>>>> (it is controlled by the operator). >>>>>> but then the "Traffic deflection to other ITRs (or a PxTR)" could be >>>>>> used to fill the cache of the 2nd ITR (the one that is not >>>>>>reloaded). >>>>> Then you get sub-optimal routing. >>>>> >>>>>> You turn it on on ITR2 (off on ITR1), change your IGP to send all >>>>>>LISP >>>>>> data to remote sites to ITR2, "wait a bit", then ITR2 should be >>>>>>ready, >>>>> This is easier said then done. That means you have to inject *all >>>>> remote EID-prefixes* into your IGP. That is a non-starter. >>>>> >>>>>> you turn off deflection on ITR2 and reload ITR1. Then turning on >>>>>> deflection on ITR1 and bring the IGP routing back to active-active >>>>>>(or >>>>>> whatever the setup was before). >>>>> Dino >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, Marc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:38:54 +0100, Damien Saucez wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Marc, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2014, at 23:48, Marc Binderberger wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Damien/Olivier/Luigi/Clarence & LISP experts, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> had a look at draft-saucez-lisp-itr-graceful-03. And wonder if >>>>>>>> there is >>>>>>>> more to come? >>>>>>> Thank you for the interest. We are indeed thinking on ways to >>>>>>>extend >>>>>>> the document and provide more details on the ways the solutions >>>>>>>could >>>>>>> be implemented. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somehow section 4 feels a bit "short". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I mean: if you try to solve the problem of the _two_ >>>>>>>>cache-miss >>>>>>>> storms - first on the 2nd ITR (ITR2) when your restarting ITR >>>>>>>>(ITR1) >>>>>>>> goes down, then on the restarting ITR1 when it picks up traffic >>>>>>>> again - >>>>>>>> then section 4 would probably need to talk about a permanent cache >>>>>>>> synchronization (?). Unless you want to solve a planned restart >>>>>>>>only. >>>>>>>> But for a failure of the ITR1 I don't see how the solution you >>>>>>>> describe >>>>>>>> would work >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o ITR cache synchronization: upon startup, the ITR synchronizes >>>>>>>>its >>>>>>>> cache with the other ITRs in its synchronization set. The >>>>>>>>ITR is >>>>>>>> marked as available only after the cache is synchronized. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as ITR2 would trigger the cache-miss storm for the traffic after >>>>>>>>ITR1 >>>>>>>> failure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or if you want to solve only the cache-miss storm when ITR1 comes >>>>>>>>back >>>>>>>> into the traffic stream then the ITR deflection has the advantage >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>> not require any cache-synchronization protocol, IMHO. The rate of >>>>>>>> Map-Requests could be throttled to turn the storm into a breeze. >>>>>>>>The >>>>>>>> method how to transport traffic to ITR2 could be one of many - a >>>>>>>> direct >>>>>>>> LAN, GRE, Lisp. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So my question in short: are you planning to add some words about >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>> permanent cache synchronization? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> For now we don't have acceptable techniques to keep caches >>>>>>> synchronised in a permanent way but I don't think it is a big >>>>>>>issue as >>>>>>> the purpose of the document is to deal with planned restart of >>>>>>>routers >>>>>>> meaning that we know exactly when the routeur will get down then up >>>>>>> (it is controlled by the operator). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have a solution to continuously synchronise ITRs caches, we >>>>>>> would be very happy to look at them and integrate them in the >>>>>>>proposed >>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Damien Saucez >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>>>> Marc >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> lisp mailing list >>>>>> lisp@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > >_______________________________________________ >lisp mailing list >lisp@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Tue Mar 18 07:44:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37E51A03BC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:43:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.151 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.151 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pYChDtGB0X22 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zproxy120.enst.fr (zproxy120.enst.fr [137.194.52.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9C01A04BC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zproxy120.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3F10FDBC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:43:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zproxy120.enst.fr Received: from zproxy120.enst.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zproxy120.enst.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jq+Q6ecYwaP2 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:43:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp164-05.enst.fr (unknown [137.194.165.5]) by zproxy120.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E52510FCA6 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:43:41 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <7CEA1C07-218E-4616-BDBB-74A0A4ECB471@telecom-paristech.fr> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:43:53 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06706725-8659-4FF9-8D86-DFECA3184002@telecom-paristech.fr> References: <7CEA1C07-218E-4616-BDBB-74A0A4ECB471@telecom-paristech.fr> To: LISP mailing list list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/5gHD0u7B5l3hSO-e_pcj_hYLLqQ Subject: [lisp] EID Block Management Discussion Summary X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:43:55 -0000 Hi All, upon request of Joel during the last meeting in London is is the summary=20= of the changes proposed for the next version of the draft conceding the = EID Block Management. - Delete the trailing paragraph of section 4 (already discussed on the = mailing list) - Delete the fees policy. It is not up to the WG to decide about fees. - Re-phrase the availability of the registration information requirement = avoiding putting specific numbers=20 (in the current version 99% up time is required). Anybody objecting these changes??? Anybody with additional remarks/review/feedback? Thanks Luigi=20 =09 From nobody Tue Mar 18 07:58:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307031A045C for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:58:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g_vY1vFxUYxY for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3511A03BF for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E1C880CA for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 102525116.rudm1.ra.johnshopkins.edu (addr16212925014.ippl.jhmi.edu [162.129.250.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB1871B0001 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:58:04 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BHBe3arE2GBa3BxRjqJLUkBsaPn9wiNwv" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/ptDhz3qy1L3teQ3H79JemDamRN8 Subject: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:58:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BHBe3arE2GBa3BxRjqJLUkBsaPn9wiNwv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi Iannone as a third co-chair. I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on this role. Apologies for not announcing this sooner. Welcome, Luigi! 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Your longstanding contribution to the WG has been key for the success of LISP, and I'm looking forward to work with you in this new role. Fabio On 3/18/14, 7:58 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, > For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi Iannone > as a third co-chair. I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on this > role. > > Apologies for not announcing this sooner. Welcome, Luigi! > > Regards, > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp --------------090702010808050808020203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Congratulazioni Luigi!
Your longstanding contribution to the WG has been key for the success of LISP, and I'm looking forward to work with you in this new role.

Fabio

On 3/18/14, 7:58 AM, Brian Haberman wrote:
All,
     For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi Iannone
as a third co-chair.  I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on this
role.

     Apologies for not announcing this sooner.  Welcome, Luigi!

Regards,
Brian




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--------------090702010808050808020203-- From nobody Tue Mar 18 09:49:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523651A06FC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T7YKTKGuHo9t for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5321A0724 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id y13so7286281pdi.5 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=dj4c+5z2e1/NVZCm6kV62v44iVM2H+etLUIPjTIU8zg=; b=v0NqL5Oxy7E06xRfcz5SL+rpHD1HYOVYIbIwWrdLNJ73ZhlzLPSnqkNVO++N2bXpJF jYaQtEhjcbN7Fo2+d9czbCkDeAZn3aKJZgnzEf9zOkSLZi3lNrclFH4UgSKIqhicGwXg apanBTJB5PQ8FF5ji3TfGg/psbc6u5hsmYas4EAVbHL2NfeUm8yqwwND4Fr6FqeZ9ydG NBWFy3EsazZkGg1m1sDqMI062t5+3AcZnyMPhC5E8XhrF7iv0drr0NQ6gpZb/Fj9OMvQ JHGfhJLK/B10wzrB6yzf7HtQ10i6IZbLRT0Ck0mYQgbxZgt24+j8hazd10L2Xk0ONvYH CV+g== X-Received: by 10.68.163.3 with SMTP id ye3mr33890191pbb.78.1395161372994; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (mobile-166-137-176-132.mycingular.net. [166.137.176.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vx10sm90290292pac.17.2014.03.18.09.49.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <5328746C.1050706@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:49:31 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1A1CE1D7-95C4-4E1C-B460-BB3E81D5EC27@gmail.com> References: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> <5328746C.1050706@cisco.com> To: Fabio Maino X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/Qdd4kfqSGUMw6iDklHVMHTEVs3Q Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:49:43 -0000 > Congratulazioni Luigi!=20 > Your longstanding contribution to the WG has been key for the success = of LISP, and I'm looking forward to work with you in this new role.=20 I second the motion! Dino >=20 > Fabio >=20 > On 3/18/14, 7:58 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: >> All, >> For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi = Iannone >> as a third co-chair. I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on = this >> role. >>=20 >> Apologies for not announcing this sooner. Welcome, Luigi! >>=20 >> Regards, >> Brian >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >>=20 >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Tue Mar 18 09:52:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B3C1A0418 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Thl_tuZQ83dZ for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db3lp0079.outbound.protection.outlook.com [213.199.154.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB301A01BE for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DBXPR06MB398.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.14.21) by DBXPR06MB610.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.255.71.166) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.898.11; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:51:59 +0000 Received: from DBXPR06MB399.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.14.23) by DBXPR06MB398.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.14.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.898.11; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:51:59 +0000 Received: from DBXPR06MB399.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.14.23]) by DBXPR06MB399.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.14.23]) with mapi id 15.00.0898.005; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:51:59 +0000 From: Sharon Barkai To: Brian Haberman Thread-Topic: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair Thread-Index: AQHPQrqLlby/56LIO02HlD4+QwvKtJrnD0v0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:51:58 +0000 Message-ID: <863EAF1F-D59D-40B0-9A31-7117FB09DE4F@Contextream.com> References: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> In-Reply-To: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.22.28.27] x-forefront-prvs: 0154C61618 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019001)(6009001)(428001)(24454002)(51704005)(199002)(189002)(47736001)(15975445006)(56816005)(90146001)(76786001)(47976001)(49866001)(92566001)(76796001)(50986001)(86362001)(82746002)(94316002)(47446002)(97186001)(31966008)(74502001)(93516002)(74876001)(2656002)(76482001)(83322001)(74662001)(97336001)(51856001)(92726001)(65816001)(66066001)(19580405001)(80022001)(81686001)(19580395003)(81542001)(54356001)(74366001)(74706001)(83716003)(87936001)(93136001)(56776001)(54316002)(33656001)(81816001)(94946001)(4396001)(87266001)(46102001)(80976001)(85852003)(53806001)(79102001)(59766001)(81342001)(95666003)(95416001)(69226001)(63696002)(77982001)(36756003)(85306002)(20776003)(83072002)(80792004); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DBXPR06MB398; H:DBXPR06MB399.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:38D3C1B4.B6A2A4E2.4CE291B8.D0E558E8.200DC; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (: Contextream.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: Contextream.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/epNvi_X1ZwD0VfILQCjpbdgypkA Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:52:15 -0000 Congratulations. --szb > On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:58, "Brian Haberman" wro= te: >=20 > All, > For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi Iannone > as a third co-chair. I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on this > role. >=20 > Apologies for not announcing this sooner. Welcome, Luigi! >=20 > Regards, > Brian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Tue Mar 18 10:52:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CE11A03F6 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:52:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IAFb5Lii8xnd for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45A11A06EA for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-3.ac.upc.es (gw-3.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.9]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2IHpvbU012539 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:51:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (unknown [46.27.20.114]) by gw-3.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D31BE3DE for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:51:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532887BA.2000007@ac.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:51:54 +0100 From: Albert Cabellos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> <863EAF1F-D59D-40B0-9A31-7117FB09DE4F@Contextream.com> In-Reply-To: <863EAF1F-D59D-40B0-9A31-7117FB09DE4F@Contextream.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/ReI1z6AyD-MtzaiZGtcqaE8EIBQ Subject: Re: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:52:10 -0000 Congrats Luigi! Albert On 18/03/2014 17:51, Sharon Barkai wrote: > Congratulations. > > --szb > >> On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:58, "Brian Haberman" wrote: >> >> All, >> For those of you who have not noticed, I have added Luigi Iannone >> as a third co-chair. I want to thank Luigi for agreeing to take on this >> role. >> >> Apologies for not announcing this sooner. Welcome, Luigi! >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Tue Mar 18 13:39:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11ED71A049E for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GEfzRoFnLiaB for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128331A02FB for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:39:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=310; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1395175150; x=1396384750; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=iLjHXhbWO3g3sP/wG9w+CZEib83SlHzDOrqXzwDvEns=; b=Uam1ZH2rnh8Z03tha9XuPAGlS37jXP1SuCNuPIk79TB+mBG+AWzAfUzr pv34q4FNPXJtf1+zvI9Dz7mN3opXCX0e9KyYx/mzn1/H4V0uCseLTZAg5 YofNkCH6YL02BG4Nd5HtZNKFcZcBgm3hj7TJgD/OWpGcWmyve8EEstOoI I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFADCuKFOtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABagwaBBgzCI4EtFnSCJQEBAQMBeQULAgEIRjIlAgQOBYdxCNA+F44vMweDJIEUAQOYRpIwgy2CKw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,680,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="311263603" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2014 20:39:09 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com [173.37.183.86]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s2IKd9kP010530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:39:09 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.5.137]) by xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com ([173.37.183.86]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:39:09 -0500 From: "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" To: "Fabio Maino (fmaino)" Thread-Topic: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair Thread-Index: AQHPQuoclSrnGB8tnU2RBOwWeHQijw== Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: <59DBA47E-27F5-4388-B7C6-BA9D56144B72@cisco.com> References: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> <5328746C.1050706@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5328746C.1050706@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.19.253.183] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <84B00EEAC15E604AB4ADECC415817329@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/e8QHShzERmN2BvzAQFdbkITU1p0 Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:39:20 -0000 On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Fabio Maino wrote: > Congratulazioni Luigi!=20 > Your longstanding contribution to the WG has been key for the success of = LISP, and I=92m > looking forward to work with you in this new role.=20 >=20 Well said Fabio, and welcome Luigi! -Darrel= From nobody Wed Mar 19 02:19:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2A61A069C for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oe8KYmmo2CEb for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AB81A06F6 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b13so6794574wgh.17 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=McFJM5vaw7devHIOD6ZhVUkgbfjqo8f8hnmXjdfocxc=; b=X8N1vuor743c5jgbmxOKTM2T2KK415mi6yVQwhVWeeYficlkONNW1k2d9yn7aj9v/J XAlpLUFqdpqNB/9Q1RaRYWqRQ7+AZu8Fx3AQOXCzdbqBhdHyaZW9De1JBju16u4ggNoB NWLVcRTAKfdDOKNmu8f+zn5qAtmRISFLs6YQ/wlbahLD809uxAImH76yGIdIL4CvCSqA DetM2+ye41crT2PYhNZ4lzW9g6r9m0YVG0w+8XiAzlvVW2sA0qGuOUffOKN1ogpZJv3Q hLUTFOO9qZ9k9KW4REmwZ40IoFkv/4uWu3MBXOOKabYX00n0/ViExms2u/zieuRzs5p5 5OVg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk8KW0gkGqd0GYF0XHrTzVmr950tlyKxZi9M195GGq4HMIYTCjWuPbTHZXPRsL51mTXE+UN X-Received: by 10.180.89.211 with SMTP id bq19mr18283485wib.58.1395220751214; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp164-05.enst.fr (dhcp164-05.enst.fr. [137.194.165.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f1sm49502136wik.1.2014.03.19.02.19.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <59DBA47E-27F5-4388-B7C6-BA9D56144B72@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:19:28 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <90081B94-861B-42BA-9F98-5F56A806387E@gigix.net> References: <53285EFC.1000508@innovationslab.net> <5328746C.1050706@cisco.com> <59DBA47E-27F5-4388-B7C6-BA9D56144B72@cisco.com> To: "Darrel Lewis (darlewis)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/tNj4Xhk-Q87wcdspfl5-kP63VFc Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] Welcome a new co-chair X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:19:29 -0000 Thanks you Fabio, Darrel, and All. L. On 18 Mar. 2014, at 21:39 , Darrel Lewis (darlewis) = wrote: >=20 > On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Fabio Maino wrote: >=20 >> Congratulazioni Luigi!=20 >> Your longstanding contribution to the WG has been key for the success = of LISP, and I=92m >> looking forward to work with you in this new role.=20 >>=20 >=20 > Well said Fabio, and welcome Luigi! >=20 > -Darrel > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 11:23:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A06D1A0429 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:23:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3VsIv0E3DqkV for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84F51A0406 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0BA240F12 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maila2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [129.192.170.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DFB2240E75 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:23:29 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/gS-i-D4NtjLWSpytq2-c5Ca298s Subject: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:23:43 -0000 The draft LISP Threats Analysis has been significantly revised following the WG last call in November. The working group seems happy with the results of the revision. This email starts a two week last call, to end on April 4th, 2014. Please review the documnet, and comment to the list on whether it is complete and ready to go to the IESG. Thank you, Joel From nobody Thu Mar 20 11:27:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70F41A0429 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:27:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Cp5ZWC3ZMFs for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0251A0406 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CDC2410E0 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:26:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maila2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [129.192.170.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1293C240282 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:26:50 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/gg2kXsSz6Y84XmCHmV0d_SsXk78 Subject: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:27:02 -0000 The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion and comments received. This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the IESG. This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. Yours, Joel From nobody Thu Mar 20 11:32:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521381A0808 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.65 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IUb0ZyMomxBr for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-x22e.google.com (mail-ee0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DD81A06E1 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id t10so970324eei.5 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=1dJiNVAIL+EovNQI5RUsc1VqFwALfzAtfy9gP9kNlIs=; b=MUi7QLOCIv7yrGpvYVdrgvPMEY0naO1P1EmsusnwBfbD87QTsy3w/1G67FM4FYTPgK MQpSxSHxYaov4HGoI0eBcpwzOAzIZT0CVCP4NOQDic0rspic62GoOVaUtAyVxKPeT8ut 5FrAYKpvMIXzbBjJssQbfwlvaxQBRCx3embdd9CmbxihR2zy4eK5umV9KaaVcGT5Dfd4 HTYra5gkpzU/Gs3GEMuiJ4EMvOfY5syn5wRL+5Iz/PeacXPlkD7lviTfObW+INvT300h F3Wpmt0vOa6pTROBaYrWMJFaIKdrW7e10erj82wC7+buFPSjgFszv08W4WEgoDzzJFro b87Q== X-Received: by 10.14.216.3 with SMTP id f3mr28112934eep.66.1395340362482; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faucon.inria.fr (faucon.inria.fr. [138.96.201.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w6sm5928731eex.9.2014.03.20.11.32.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Damien Saucez In-Reply-To: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:32:39 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> To: "Joel M. Halpern" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/_oN3_uTKMQ8Gj6RPx6BHxIlGbPk Cc: LISP mailing list list Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:32:53 -0000 I support the draft as it reflects the last WG discussions. Damien Saucez On 20 Mar 2014, at 19:26, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion = and comments received. >=20 > This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. > Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether = there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the = IESG. >=20 > This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. >=20 > Yours, > Joel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 12:10:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15DE1A048D for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OTPcQecpR3Cq for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x230.google.com (mail-pd0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373271A0410 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id r10so1321857pdi.7 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=sO89ZQYeQWrt+qmv7oPf702PAtUgz2+NVP2vEnQcwVg=; b=G9kX85gCK5OisHBmlc31NAufszK7LSyGeUy4ZsJT8EazXIVy/N8nmYvdI3V7DDuUvb M8/h9PIi30IQjvM/Z2RjLpO6QAjZcfjxMZEY2oCJCzH5VhCQUzJHXbAlwxg2ce75CrRk sVC8oOV62n/3BB0mViF01jzSql+3kMoKOJaMOa3h5pi5UvlKZKjmibLrj1zSufRIMnAy XfRcfM/LNdgHm2mBtAjJpkJd4DeX67BRgtqb1bsulr8qP0SX7LD9+kiNkOKbWcEmNJ3v S63NSZWwzpb2ST7Dwwp/WUcYUvJAkMaYEggnXhefhcxaLJyAMdVmM0nL5TaF84aAN2bS ss8g== X-Received: by 10.66.227.104 with SMTP id rz8mr48985009pac.74.1395342626169; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (173-8-188-29-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [173.8.188.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pl10sm5365739pbb.56.2014.03.20.12.10.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> To: "Joel M. Halpern" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/0k97XSzgFYL1ko9ndyRykk19Qpg Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:10:38 -0000 I support this draft is ready to go to the IESG. Dino On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Joel M. Halpern = wrote: > The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion = and comments received. >=20 > This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. > Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether = there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the = IESG. >=20 > This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. >=20 > Yours, > Joel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 12:12:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5011A042C for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMk4r9C62s8g for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-x22a.google.com (mail-pb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7641A0410 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rr13so1370376pbb.29 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=sO89ZQYeQWrt+qmv7oPf702PAtUgz2+NVP2vEnQcwVg=; b=G9kX85gCK5OisHBmlc31NAufszK7LSyGeUy4ZsJT8EazXIVy/N8nmYvdI3V7DDuUvb M8/h9PIi30IQjvM/Z2RjLpO6QAjZcfjxMZEY2oCJCzH5VhCQUzJHXbAlwxg2ce75CrRk sVC8oOV62n/3BB0mViF01jzSql+3kMoKOJaMOa3h5pi5UvlKZKjmibLrj1zSufRIMnAy XfRcfM/LNdgHm2mBtAjJpkJd4DeX67BRgtqb1bsulr8qP0SX7LD9+kiNkOKbWcEmNJ3v S63NSZWwzpb2ST7Dwwp/WUcYUvJAkMaYEggnXhefhcxaLJyAMdVmM0nL5TaF84aAN2bS ss8g== X-Received: by 10.68.202.8 with SMTP id ke8mr49989879pbc.86.1395342741095; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (173-8-188-29-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [173.8.188.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id te2sm14076619pac.25.2014.03.20.12.12.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> To: "Joel M. Halpern" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/0k97XSzgFYL1ko9ndyRykk19Qpg Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:12:32 -0000 I support this draft is ready to go to the IESG. Dino On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Joel M. Halpern = wrote: > The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion = and comments received. >=20 > This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. > Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether = there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the = IESG. >=20 > This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. >=20 > Yours, > Joel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 12:12:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B721A07C4 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yR7yAjzTS8pG for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1811A078F for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y10so1310590pdj.8 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=PUEtLCSEV+Fw8CW4/S8ZOu07MH+7qRBQnIuUYaOSNfM=; b=vCnoQsMAAvER7MiwKkhuMAaVjnIN3BhjLl6wLyKlEWURk7Fz1K7IMCg6J8olrXtPNs CPsihQEoEBcUfb5zKkS+c2O65Pfz7cx+a+zMczzXxcu2faqnJN9TeFaYO8tWsZGLCSGH qnsi52lrj21Y97vF3XeOuz73i0pg7hVpka9tBVtnSHVIxxxxEw+hy1tIxsFi1JQbFA2r aBG4t8oncwMNw5l1fCRbglog6CvLZ/nWxznAjM8+ih2xiScZrK84dOIT/gYFBQsVZwQi eeOhz6XpN3Cji1YyFBYiFJboJPwvO1DNl68Q4gAN4N5lItCo7Zo264fUKxU3np0R8pyo 4GHA== X-Received: by 10.68.139.137 with SMTP id qy9mr48327842pbb.11.1395342759606; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (173-8-188-29-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [173.8.188.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id te2sm14076619pac.25.2014.03.20.12.12.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Dino Farinacci In-Reply-To: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2B7719DA-611C-406C-8ADE-56FC48A24720@gmail.com> References: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> To: "Joel M. Halpern" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/kvijGmPAbKQMO42DHiH6deoYYcA Cc: "lisp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:12:50 -0000 I support this draft is ready to go to the IESG. Dino On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Joel M. Halpern = wrote: > The draft LISP Threats Analysis has been significantly revised = following the WG last call in November. > The working group seems happy with the results of the revision. >=20 > This email starts a two week last call, to end on April 4th, 2014. > Please review the documnet, and comment to the list on whether it is = complete and ready to go to the IESG. >=20 > Thank you, > Joel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 22:48:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8104B1A092E for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:48:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PntzrknG1CvN for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373A61A092D for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-3.ac.upc.es (gw-3.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.9]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2L5mQNx018726 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:48:26 +0100 Received: from [10.81.80.7] (unknown [89.123.66.34]) by gw-3.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EA2D3F7 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:48:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532BD2A8.1020203@lispmob.org> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:48:24 +0200 From: Lori Jakab Organization: LISPmob MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" References: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/G9tNYvQX2spDTIkOinJONDC8fPc Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:48:39 -0000 I think this draft is complete and ready to go to the IESG. -Lori On 03/20/2014 08:23 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The draft LISP Threats Analysis has been significantly revised following > the WG last call in November. > The working group seems happy with the results of the revision. > > This email starts a two week last call, to end on April 4th, 2014. > Please review the documnet, and comment to the list on whether it is > complete and ready to go to the IESG. > > Thank you, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Thu Mar 20 22:49:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E9A1A0938 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:49:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iit_AnQ9ah6y for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7691A0936 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-3.ac.upc.es (gw-3.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.9]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2L5mwdq018742 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:48:58 +0100 Received: from [10.81.80.7] (unknown [89.123.66.34]) by gw-3.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E8DF3F7 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:48:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532BD2C9.3080702@lispmob.org> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:48:57 +0200 From: Lori Jakab Organization: LISPmob MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/Wlchpf3QwdrZ19ioF4YIzBX0rUg Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:49:10 -0000 I think this draft is complete and ready to go to the IESG. -Lori On 03/20/2014 08:26 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion > and comments received. > > This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. > Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether there > are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the IESG. > > This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. > > Yours, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Fri Mar 21 00:26:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2A1A0077 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:26:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B29DbCNl4US4 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4A91A0078 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-2.ac.upc.es (gw-2.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.8]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2L7QFmf021283; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:26:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.16] (190.pool85-58-135.dynamic.orange.es [85.58.135.190]) by gw-2.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDAB2736; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:26:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532BE995.20801@ac.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:26:13 +0100 From: Florin Coras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/U2Rl9AqDyXyK3ytAYfy9oT9vc78 Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:26:29 -0000 I think the draft is ready to go to the IESG. Florin On 03/20/2014 07:26 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG discussion > and comments received. > > This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. > Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether > there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the IESG. > > This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. > > Yours, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Fri Mar 21 00:27:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030801A0077 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6u8U-iRdn6kg for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D31F1A04C5 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-2.ac.upc.es (gw-2.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.8]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2L7RZYY021322; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:27:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.16] (190.pool85-58-135.dynamic.orange.es [85.58.135.190]) by gw-2.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7209E7F9; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:27:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532BE9E7.3000708@ac.upc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:27:35 +0100 From: Florin Coras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/ARUmxzebNFfFAIVSMd5tvuZJSAA Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:27:47 -0000 I think the draft is ready to go to the IESG. Florin On 03/20/2014 07:23 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The draft LISP Threats Analysis has been significantly revised > following the WG last call in November. > The working group seems happy with the results of the revision. > > This email starts a two week last call, to end on April 4th, 2014. > Please review the documnet, and comment to the list on whether it is > complete and ready to go to the IESG. > > Thank you, > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Fri Mar 21 14:51:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3F1A076D for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:51:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c1cBEDqi0KXw for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.185]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873B81A0900 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail89-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.226) by CH1EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.43.70.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:13 +0000 Received: from mail89-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail89-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3F20283; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.240.101; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:BL2PRD0510HT003.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -21 X-BigFish: VPS-21(zz9371I542I4015Izz1f42h2148h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h2146h1202h1e76h2189h1d1ah1d2ah21bch1fc6hzz1de098h1033IL8275dh1de097h186068hz2fh109h2a8h839h944hd24hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah224fh1d07h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1de9h1dfeh1dffh1fe8h1ff5h2216h22d0h2336h2461h2487h24d7h2516h2545h255eh25cch25f6h2605h262fh268bh9a9j1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail89-ch1: domain of juniper.net designates 157.56.240.101 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.240.101; envelope-from=rcallon@juniper.net; helo=BL2PRD0510HT003.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ; .outlook.com ; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report-Untrusted: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009001)(6009001)(428001)(377454003)(13464003)(164054003)(189002)(199002)(46102001)(93136001)(33646001)(74662001)(4396001)(20776003)(92566001)(74366001)(74502001)(47446002)(80976001)(85306002)(63696002)(87266001)(31966008)(66066001)(76482001)(74316001)(65816001)(98676001)(80022001)(83322001)(76576001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(81542001)(47976001)(95416001)(47736001)(50986001)(76786001)(54316002)(59766001)(77982001)(86362001)(79102001)(15975445006)(94316002)(90146001)(94946001)(53806001)(56816005)(93516002)(49866001)(97186001)(81342001)(74876001)(81686001)(51856001)(97336001)(2656002)(85852003)(87936001)(83072002)(95666003)(56776001)(81816001)(54356001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR05MB635; H:CO2PR05MB636.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:2C7679B5.1CD287F2.716FB3E7.84E098F8.2019B; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Received: from mail89-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail89-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1395438672462769_11903; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.251]) by mail89-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B4D3A00A3; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0510HT003.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (157.56.240.101) by CH1EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.43.70.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:11 +0000 Received: from CO2PR05MB635.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.199.22) by BL2PRD0510HT003.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.255.100.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.423.0; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:10 +0000 Received: from CO2PR05MB636.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.199.24) by CO2PR05MB635.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.199.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.898.11; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:09 +0000 Received: from CO2PR05MB636.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.199.24]) by CO2PR05MB636.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.199.24]) with mapi id 15.00.0898.005; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:09 +0000 From: Ross Callon To: "Joel M. Halpern" , "lisp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ Thread-Index: AQHPRGmOL9OIAsXOWE6uPRNxqRzeoprsFdoQ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <532B3221.8090208@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.14] x-forefront-prvs: 0157DEB61B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/dVHK1_JSxRMKi1-h6vDRLo1xDQw Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:26 -0000 The most recent version that is on the datatracker is the -08 version from = October 21, 2013. Is this the version that is going through WGLC?=20 Thanks, Ross -----Original Message----- From: lisp [mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:23 PM To: lisp@ietf.org Subject: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-threats/ The draft LISP Threats Analysis has been significantly revised following=20 the WG last call in November. The working group seems happy with the results of the revision. This email starts a two week last call, to end on April 4th, 2014. Please review the documnet, and comment to the list on whether it is=20 complete and ready to go to the IESG. Thank you, Joel _______________________________________________ lisp mailing list lisp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Mon Mar 24 07:40:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54511A0246 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:40:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XYDV_fKxYiFU for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502161A023C for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAD61C285C3 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (pool-70-106-134-57.clppva.east.verizon.net [70.106.134.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79B3B1C28595 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <533043C3.40908@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:40:03 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisp@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/KsGaDv7-hHFbnPr6mL2tdwP765g Subject: [lisp] hold last call - lisp-threats X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:40:08 -0000 While reviewing things, prompted by someone who pointed out the document date, I realized that there were comments on the document that were agreed to and have not been incorporated. The authors will be submitting a revision, and we will restart the last call then. Yours, Joel From nobody Mon Mar 24 17:25:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29CE1A000F for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSfm5zg4lU6I for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454501A000D for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw-2.ac.upc.es (gw-2.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.8]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2P0PblX022684 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 01:25:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (unknown [46.27.20.114]) by gw-2.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDFBD1624 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 01:25:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5330CD01.4070804@ac.upc.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 01:25:37 +0100 From: Albert Cabellos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lisp@ietf.org References: <532B32EA.3090805@joelhalpern.com> <532BE995.20801@ac.upc.edu> In-Reply-To: <532BE995.20801@ac.upc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/2-X31EljYy2FHnhfQLEbqqH7ogA Subject: Re: [lisp] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block/ X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:25:42 -0000 +1 Albert On 21/03/2014 8:26, Florin Coras wrote: > I think the draft is ready to go to the IESG. > > Florin > > On 03/20/2014 07:26 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> The draft LISP EID Block has been revised to reflect the WG >> discussion and comments received. >> >> This starts a last call for this document, ending April 4, 2014. >> Please review thisdocument and indicate to the email lsit whether >> there are issues or you think it is complete and ready to go to the >> IESG. >> >> This document is a companion to draft-iannone-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-03. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list > lisp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp From nobody Tue Mar 25 10:32:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4B91A01E9; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hd4mFZbSjU3y; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A356B1A019F; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA1B1621FB; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (pool-70-106-134-57.clppva.east.verizon.net [70.106.134.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 384A01621F4; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5331BD89.5090802@joelhalpern.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:31:53 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "karp@ietf.org" , "lisp@ietf.org" References: <5331548F.10409@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <5331548F.10409@pi.nu> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <5331548F.10409@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/Nk_6XVrBoyqKgS_c3AfumHU2VcA Subject: [lisp] Fwd: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Area Health Check X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:31:57 -0000 For yoru information, the link below is to a presentation Adrian gave to the MPLS working group on producing drafts that are going to RFC. Some of the thoughts are specific to MPLS. But most of them are widely applicable. Yours, Joel http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-mpls-15.pptx