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Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
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Thanks for resolving most of my discuss points. I remain unconvinced
about the wisdom of including section 5, hence my abstain ballot.



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Thanks Stephen for time spent on this. You are making LISP better and =
certainly more secure.

Grateful,
Dino

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Hi All,

feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we =
decide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December =
16th.

Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for =
publication.

Silence is NOT consensus.

Ciao

Luigi & Joel

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> Hi All,
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> The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document =
[https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/>] asked for WG =
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> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  =
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> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Hi All,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this =
reason we decide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending =
December 16th.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready =
for publication.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Silence is NOT consensus.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ciao</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Luigi &amp; Joel</div><div class=3D""><br=
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17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" =
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi All,<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/</a>] =
asked for WG Last Call.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This email starts the usual two weeks =
WG Last Call, to end December &nbsp;1st, 2016.</div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please review this WG =
document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready for handing =
to the AD.</div></div><div class=3D"">If you have objections, please =
state your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your =
concerns.</div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></font><div class=3D"">Thanks</div></div><div class=3D""><font =
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Joel</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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HI All,

the  call for adoption for this document is now over.
=46rom the replies received we can conclude that=20
there is consensus in adopting the document as WG document.
The authors are invited to submit a new version of the document with =
name draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis-00.txt.
Such document should include all comments received so far.

Thanks you all =20

ciao

Luigi=20
Joel

> On 16 Nov 2016, at 03:58, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> Folks,
>=20
> The chairs received a request for the following document to be
> adopted as a WG item:
>=20
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farinacci-lisp-rfc6833bis/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farinacci-lisp-rfc6833bis/>
>=20
> Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on
> Wednesday the 30 November, 2016.
>=20
> Please email the WG list stating whether or not you support =
acceptance.
>=20
> If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, =
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> also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or =
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class=3D"">=46rom the replies received we can conclude =
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HI All,

the  call for adoption for this document is now over.
=46rom the replies received we can conclude that=20
there is consensus in adopting the document as WG document.
The authors are invited to submit a new version of the document with =
name draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-00.txt.
Such document should include all comments received so far.

Thanks you all =20

ciao

Luigi=20
Joel
> On 16 Nov 2016, at 03:57, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> Folks,
>=20
> The chairs received a request for the following document to be
> adopted as a WG item:
>=20
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farinacci-lisp-rfc6830bis/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farinacci-lisp-rfc6830bis/>
>=20
> Here starts a 14 day call for adoption, this call will end on
> Wednesday the 30 November, 2016.
>=20
> Please email the WG list stating whether or not you support =
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>=20
> If you email to support the acceptance of this document as a WG item, =
please
> also indicate if you are able and willing to either contribute to, or =
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> Sitting in silence does not indicate support, please respond =
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The document is absolutely necessary to complete the full-feature =
security model that the LISP architecture needs. There are multiple =
implementations of it and it is ready to advance and has been in that =
state, IMO, for a long time.

So I support moving it along the process.

Dino

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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF)'
  (draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-22.txt) as Experimental RFC

This document is the product of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah
Brungard.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf/





Technical Summary

This document describes a canonical address format encoding
used in the ocator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP), more precisely
in the lookup keys of the LISP mapping system and related control
messages. The intent is to define a general syntax that includes
Address Family Identifier (AFI), length, and value fields.
Such general syntax aims at enabling an easy evolution of the
protocol to support future applications.
   
Working Group Summary

The document has been around for a while, and has been discussed
several times. From the beginning, there was strong support, because
the WG felt that the flexibility introduced by a canonical address
encoding was an important feature, which would enable using LISP
to be used for use-cases and applications which are not in the
original scope of the protocol. Such support never faded.
Discussion in the WG group mostly focused on the initial type allocation
and their definition. The WG converged on splitting the initial type allocation
and their usage in two different sections. Section 4 of the document
defines types for which the use-cases are well defined and
implementation exists or are ongoing. Section 5 contains
types that have a more experimental nature, for which they usage
is either not yet clearly identified or not completely defined.

Document Quality

The LCAF is currently supported by various LISP implementations.
May be not all of the types are supported but the basic encoding
syntax and types are there.
  
Personnel

   Who is the Document Shepherd for this document?  Luigi Iannone
   Who is the Responsible Area Director?  Deborah Brungard


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I support handing the document to the AD.=20

Florin

> On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we =
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>=20
> Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for =
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>=20
> Silence is NOT consensus.
>=20
> Ciao
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
>=20
>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net =
<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi All,
>>=20
>> The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document =
[https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/>] asked for WG =
Last Call.=20
>>=20
>> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  =
1st, 2016.
>>=20
>> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
it is ready for handing to the AD.
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>>=20
>> Thanks
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class=3D"">I support handing the document to the AD.&nbsp;<div =
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi All,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">feedback for this last =
call has been quite low. For this reason we decide to extend the last =
call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please state your opinion on whether =
this document is ready for publication.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Silence is NOT consensus.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ciao</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Luigi &amp; =
Joel</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
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space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi All,<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
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class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/</a>] =
asked for WG Last Call.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This email starts the usual two weeks =
WG Last Call, to end December &nbsp;1st, 2016.</div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please review this WG =
document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready for handing =
to the AD.</div></div><div class=3D"">If you have objections, please =
state your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your =
concerns.</div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br =
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I support publication of this document.

Regards,
Reshad.

From: lisp <lisp-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf =
of Florin Coras <fcoras.lists@gmail.com<mailto:fcoras.lists@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, December 2, 2016 at 4:26 PM
To: Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>>
Cc: "lisp-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:lisp-chairs@ietf.org>" <lisp-chairs@ietf.o=
rg<mailto:lisp-chairs@ietf.org>>, LISP mailing list list <lisp@ietf.org<mai=
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Subject: Re: [lisp] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lisp-sec-12.txt

I support handing the document to the AD.

Florin

On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net<mailto:ggx@gigix.n=
et>> wrote:

Hi All,

feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we decide t=
o extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.

Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for publication=
.

Silence is NOT consensus.

Ciao

Luigi & Joel

On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net<mailto:ggx@gigix.net=
>> wrote:

Hi All,

The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [https://datatracker.i=
etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/] asked for WG Last Call.

This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  1st, 2=
016.

Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is =
ready for handing to the AD.
If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it =
would take to address your concerns.

Thanks

Luigi & Joel

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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, December 2, 2016 at 4=
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:ggx@gigix.net">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:lisp-ch=
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<div class=3D"">On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
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Hi All,
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this re=
ason we decide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending Decemb=
er 16th.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready=
 for publication.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Silence is NOT consensus.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Ciao</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Luigi &amp; Joel</div>
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<div class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line=
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Hi All,<br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -=
webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [<a hr=
ef=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/" class=3D"">htt=
ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/</a>] asked for WG Last C=
all.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end =
December &nbsp;1st, 2016.</div>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you a=
gree that it is ready for handing to the AD.</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"">If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and =
explain what it would take to address your concerns.</div>
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Hi all,

I think the document is ready for publication.

Thanks,
Alberto

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we decide
> to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.
>
> Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for
> publication.
>
> Silence is NOT consensus.
>
> Ciao
>
> Luigi & Joel
>
> On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/] asked for WG Last
> Call.
>
> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  1st,
> 2016.
>
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is
> ready for handing to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it
> would take to address your concerns.
>
> Thanks
>
> Luigi & Joel
>
>
>
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s ready for publication.<br><br></div>Thanks,<br></div>Alberto<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 =
at 8:50 AM, Luigi Iannone <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix=
.net" target=3D"_blank">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi All,<div><br></di=
v><div>feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we d=
ecide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Please state your opinion on whether this document=
 is ready for publication.</div><div><br></div><div>Silence is NOT consensu=
s.</div><div><br></div><div>Ciao</div><div><br></div><div>Luigi &amp; Joel<=
/div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On=
 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" =
target=3D"_blank">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_38348844=
86947456251Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-wo=
rd">Hi All,<br><div><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div=
>The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [<a href=3D"https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
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ease review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is re=
ady for handing to the AD.</div></div><div>If you have objections, please s=
tate your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your conce=
rns.</div><div><font color=3D"#00afcd"><br></font><div>Thanks</div></div><d=
iv><font color=3D"#00afcd"><br></font>Luigi &amp; Joel</div></div></div></d=
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On 12/2/16 6:50 PM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we
> decide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.
> 
> Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for publication.

Yes, please start the publication process.

-Lori

> 
> Silence is NOT consensus.
> 
> Ciao
> 
> Luigi & Joel
> 
>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net
>> <mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document
>> [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/] asked for WG
>> Last Call. 
>>
>> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December
>>  1st, 2016.
>>
>> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that
>> it is ready for handing to the AD.
>> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain
>> what it would take to address your concerns.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Luigi & Joel
> 
> 
> 
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Given this document describes technology that has not only been thoroughly =
reviewed, and that its been implemented, and finally that its been deployed=
 across thousands of devices, I believe it may just be ready to be publishe=
d.

-Darrel
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
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> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  1st,=
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
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>
> feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we decide to
> extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.
>
> Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for publication.

I think it's ready for publication.


-- 

Roger Jorgensen           | ROJO9-RIPE
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>        Title           : PIM Join Attributes for LISP Environments
>        Authors         : Jesus Arango
>                          Stig Venaas
>                          Isidor Kouvelas
>                          Dino Farinacci
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-pim-join-attributes-for-lisp-06.txt
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>   This document defines two PIM Join/Prune attributes that support the
>   construction of multicast distribution trees where the root and
>   receivers are located in different LISP sites.  These attributes
>   allow the receiver site to select between unicast and multicast
>   underlay transport and to convey the RLOC (Routing Locator) address
>   of the receiver ETR (Egress Tunnel Router) to the control plane of
>   the root ITR (Ingress Tunnel Router).
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol of the IETF.

        Title           : The Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP)
        Authors         : Dino Farinacci
                          Vince Fuller
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                          Albert Cabellos
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-00.txt
	Pages           : 53
	Date            : 2016-12-06

Abstract:
   This document describes the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP)
   data-plane encapsulation protocol.  LISP defines two namespaces, End-
   point Identifiers (EIDs) that identify end-hosts and Routing Locators
   (RLOCs) that identify network attachment points.  With this, LISP
   effectively separates control from data, and allows routers to create
   overlay networks.  LISP-capable routers exchange encapsulated packets
   according to EID-to-RLOC mappings stored in a local map-cache.  The
   map-cache is populated by the LISP Control-Plane protocol
   [REF_TO_RFC6833bis].

   LISP requires no change to either host protocol stacks or to underlay
   routers and offers Traffic Engineering, multihoming and mobility,
   among other features.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol of the IETF.

        Title           : Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Control-Plane
        Authors         : Vince Fuller
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	Filename        : draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis-00.txt
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	Date            : 2016-12-06

Abstract:
   This document describes the Control-Plane and Mapping Service for the
   Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP), implemented by two new types
   of LISP-speaking devices -- the LISP Map-Resolver and LISP Map-Server
   -- that provides a simplified "front end" for one or more Endpoint ID
   to Routing Locator mapping databases.

   By using this control-plane service interface and communicating with
   Map-Resolvers and Map-Servers, LISP Ingress Tunnel Routers (ITRs) and
   Egress Tunnel Routers (ETRs) are not dependent on the details of
   mapping database systems, which facilitates experimentation with
   different database designs.  Since these devices implement the "edge"
   of the LISP infrastructure, connect directly to LISP-capable Internet
   end sites, and comprise the bulk of LISP-speaking devices, reducing
   their implementation and operational complexity should also reduce
   the overall cost and effort of deploying LISP.


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FYI. Feel free to forward.

Looking forward to working with you all
Padma



*From:* Ideas [mailto:ideas-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Padma
Pillay-Esnault
*Sent:* Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:51 AM
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*Subject:* [Ideas] Minutes of IDEAS side meeting @IETF97



Hello IDEAS!



Please find below the minutes of IDEAS side meeting @IETF97.

Thanks to all of you who attended the meeting and to Les Ginsberg for
taking minutes.



Please take a look and let us know if there are any changes needed.



Looking forward to your contributions.

Padma





IDEAS Side Meeting Minutes  IETF97





1. Agenda

Padma Pillay-Esnault (Huawei) - Introduction on problem statement for IDEAS
(10 mins)

Presented the problem statement draft and the Use cases.



Robert Raszuk: Should we define what identity is?

Padma: Agree. The document take a stab at this by defining identities and
in which context. There is a table in the document that captures the
different aspects of ID usage, allocation and its impact on a dynamic
mapping system.



Sam Aldrin: What is primary focus? What problem are you really trying to
solve? Narrow the scope - or are we trying to define a problem because we
have a solution?

Padma: The primary focus is the design and deployment of a dynamic mapping
system.

The Problem statement discusses in detail the problems we are trying to
solve. Among those many problems is Session continuity in mobility which is
important as we have more and more mobile modes in cellular as well as ip
mobility(DC). Another important problem that can be solved and is discussed
in the paper is Cross-silo communication. Encourage everyone to read the
document.



Luigi: We have multiple encaps and mappings and want to manage in a common
way.

But what is a common ID? Please clarify.



Padma: In this case we are not necessarily looking for a common single ID.
What we are trying to do is to map an ID to location. So that we can have
the Identity dissociated with the locator so that mobility is fully
supported. What we are proposing is to have a common control plane that
have access to a mapping system used by all. It is not very practical to
deploy one global mapping system per protocol or application.



Luigi: Do we have to solve who is allocating the ID? Maybe we do not have
to solve this problem.

Padma: Well it depends. We have both the case for public and private IDs.
For public IDs to be used by a common control plane, we will require some
rules.

Luigi: But what form will the ID take?

Dino: Different EID types for different purposes. Hopefully they will be
used

for different purposes. Should it be geographical, first come first served,

assigned at birth,...many types allocated differently.

L2 overlays have the MAC address.

ID allocation independent of database.



~General discussion about EID types and mapping systems.



Bob Moskowitz: I am the Last member of the EID cabal. :-)

Many discussions have been already What characteristics required of an EID?
What is good/bad? Capturing that would be good. There is two decades of
experience available =E2=80=93 would be good to make use of that.

Padma: There is a table in the draft which captures some aspects of this
discussion.

How are we actually using IDs today? And how it should be used or
restricted.

Can we use ID properties to provide better security for example?

Georgios: Take into account use cases in 5G and IoT, since they will impose
requirements that we did not have up to now.



**********************************************************

Tom Herbert ( Facebook) - The ILA protocol and NMS (10 mins)

Scale to 100=E2=80=99s of billion aggregate mappings

No aggregation assumed, 1%change per second

Able to attach ancillary data to mapping



Bob: Is this intended to be globally unique?

Tom: Globally unique in a domain.

Bob: with 7B population w 64 bit # 74% probability of collision.

This must be accounted for. Will post the formula for calculating
likelihood of collision.

Tom: We do have a method to generate unique identifiers.

Covers 20 years of experience.

Mapping system detects conflicts at registration.

Bob: Agreed. But 10 devices/person gives high probability of collisions

Kiran: Scope of identifier determined by locator?

Tom: Identifiers unique for a domain.

Reverse translation requires locator to map back to the original prefix.

Ingress/Egress translation. Both sides have to agree on the pairing.

Kiran Makhijani: If age out of cache how can you detect?

Tom: If we lose ILA routers need to have other ILA addresses available.

An open issue

Kiran Makhijani: Need to have reliability solution base requirements
related to NMS



************************************************

Dino Farinacci ( Lispers) - LISP Mapping system, How it works? (10 mins)

Presented LISP Site to access of mapping System, Site Registration

10 years of experience and DDT mapping server.

Hierarchical network structure based on EID Allocation

3 levels of hierarchy to get 1billion registrations: 1 Million for 1 MS

Multiple mapping systems



Tom: With DNS have to wait for resolution - looks like you have same issue

w LISP DDT?

Dino: Solved by LISP has default cache in ITR.

Albert: if you don=E2=80=99t was to resolve, you can set default route to p=
roxy RTR
which has all the mappings

Fabio: Proxy DNS - you send to the router which has all the information.

Dino points that if there are too many mappings In LISP we can use proxy
ETRs , where requests can be distributed.

Tom: In ILA had too many mappings in one device and now ILA does something
similar.



************************************************

Gerry Forster ( UoSurrey) - ETSi NGP: GTP, Mobility  & Flat 5G
Architecture( 15 mins) Presented the mobile network as being most
successful system, however GTP is expensive and adds to the cost for
whoever is paying for spectrum. The user data is tunneled at least 3 times
and GTP need to be updated for mobility. Smaller native headers (most of
the time).



Presented UoS work.

Association-based secure membership of each level of network access

Scalable addressing (16 bit most of the time, 52 bit global). 3-level
ID-based Mobility (Cluster, Inter-Cluster, Network)

Routing tables are local, but indexed for gateway function by 3-level ID
lookup (not DNS, but intelligent network hierarchy and Meta-Data). Transmis=
sion
is tailored by profile to level of access, access type and networking level

Lookups/ routes are through intelligent use of meta-data based =E2=80=98Con=
text=E2=80=99 =3D
ID Enabled Networking



Dino: Can we assign IPv6 address but use a 16 bit address?

Gerry : Yes - can virtualize end-to-end.

Gerry: New protocol for access networks - can do the same for wifi.

Dino: Only limit is 65K connections at one time.

Gerry: Limit the number of translations or compromise the delay.



************************************************

Fabio Maino(Cisco) - Deployment experience of  Mapping Systems ( 10 mins)

Presented various use cases and deployment experience Internet based VPN,
IPv6 transition, BGP free multihoming, DC host mobility

Up to now mapping system in the router. Based on current requirements it is
needed to bring mapping system out of the router.



************************************************

Dave Meyer (UoOregon/Brocade) - Machine Learning  and Network Mapping
System  ( 15 Mins)

??: How did you get the parameters from networking? Are they addresses

Dave: Just flattened the number - used different parameters e.g. number of

map requests? Other parameters - will need to learn what works in the
network case.

************************************************

A. Cabellos, J Vilanova & F Maino (UoCatalunya, Ecole P. Lausanne, Cisco) -
A Blockchain-based Mapping System (15 mins)

Padma: Have you looked at scalability?

Fabio: Yes - scales well.

??: Is it clear that use cases are enforcing new requirements other than
are provided by LISP (for example)?

Will problem scope be different than in LISP? What might be the advantage
of IDEAS work rather than LISP?

Padma: Out of time - take it to the list. How can we be most useful?

Need to work on defining the exact scope.

??:Will it be a BOF?

Padma: Not sure yet.



2. Admin & Location

Date: Thursday, 17th November 2016

Time : 6:00 - 8:00pm

Venue: Studio2

Mailing list: IDEAS

List address: ideas@ietf.org

Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dideas

To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ideas

Related areas: RTG, OPS

Scribe: Les Ginsberg

Number of attendees: 40+3.



3. Related Documents and Reads:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-padma-ideas-problem-statement-00

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-herbert-nvo3-ila-03

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6830

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6833

http://www.3gpp.org/release-14

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Please find below th=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Looking forward to y=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma<u></u><u></u><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">1. Agenda=C2=A0<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma Pillay-Esnault=
 (Huawei) - Introduction on problem statement for IDEAS (10 mins)<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Presented the proble=
m statement draft and the Use cases.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Robert Raszuk: Shoul=
d we define what identity is?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: Agree. The do=
cument take a stab at this by defining identities and in which context. The=
re is a table in the document that captures the different
 aspects of ID usage, allocation and its impact on a dynamic mapping system=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Sam Aldrin: What is =
primary focus? What problem are you really trying to solve? Narrow the scop=
e - or are we trying to define a problem because we
 have a solution?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: The primary f=
ocus is the design and deployment of a dynamic mapping system.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">The Problem statemen=
t discusses in detail the problems we are trying to solve. Among those many=
 problems is Session continuity in mobility which is
 important as we have more and more mobile modes in cellular as well as ip =
mobility(DC). Another important problem that can be solved and is discussed=
 in the paper is Cross-silo communication. Encourage everyone to read the d=
ocument.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Luigi: We have multi=
ple encaps and mappings and want to manage in a common way.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">But what is a common=
 ID? Please clarify.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: In this case =
we are not necessarily looking for a common single ID. What we are trying t=
o do is to map an ID to location. So that we can have
 the Identity dissociated with the locator so that mobility is fully suppor=
ted. What we are proposing is to have a common control plane that have acce=
ss to a mapping system used by all. It is not very practical to deploy one =
global mapping system per protocol
 or application.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Luigi: Do we have to=
 solve who is allocating the ID? Maybe we do not have to solve this problem=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: Well it depen=
ds. We have both the case for public and private IDs. For public IDs to be =
used by a common control plane, we will require some
 rules.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Luigi: But what form=
 will the ID take?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino: Different EID =
types for different purposes. Hopefully they will be used<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">for different purpos=
es. Should it be geographical, first come first served,<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">assigned at birth,..=
.many types allocated differently.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">L2 overlays have the=
 MAC address.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">ID allocation indepe=
ndent of database.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">~General discussion =
about EID types and mapping systems.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Bob Moskowitz: I am =
the Last member of the EID cabal. :-)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Many discussions hav=
e been already What characteristics required of an EID? What is good/bad? C=
apturing that would be good. There is two decades of
 experience available =E2=80=93 would be good to make use of that.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: There is a ta=
ble in the draft which captures some aspects of this discussion.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">How are we actually =
using IDs today? And how it should be used or restricted.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Can we use ID proper=
ties to provide better security for example?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Georgios: Take into =
account use cases in 5G and IoT, since they will impose requirements that w=
e did not have up to now.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>****************************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom Herbert ( Facebo=
ok) - The ILA protocol and NMS (10 mins)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Scale to 100=E2=80=
=99s of billion aggregate mappings<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">No aggregation assum=
ed, 1%change per second<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Able to attach ancil=
lary data to mapping<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Bob: Is this intende=
d to be globally unique?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: Globally unique=
 in a domain.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Bob: with 7B populat=
ion w 64 bit # 74% probability of collision.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">This must be account=
ed for. Will post the formula for calculating likelihood of collision.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: We do have a me=
thod to generate unique identifiers.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Covers 20 years of e=
xperience.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Mapping system detec=
ts conflicts at registration.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Bob: Agreed. But 10 =
devices/person gives high probability of collisions<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Kiran: Scope of iden=
tifier determined by locator?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: Identifiers uni=
que for a domain.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Reverse translation =
requires locator to map back to the original prefix.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Ingress/Egress trans=
lation. Both sides have to agree on the pairing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Kiran Makhijani: If =
age out of cache how can you detect?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: If we lose ILA =
routers need to have other ILA addresses available.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">An open issue<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Kiran Makhijani: Nee=
d to have reliability solution base requirements related to NMS<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>******************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino Farinacci ( Lis=
pers) - LISP Mapping system, How it works? (10 mins)<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Presented LISP Site =
to access of mapping System, Site Registration<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">10 years of experien=
ce and DDT mapping server.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Hierarchical network=
 structure based on EID Allocation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">3 levels of hierarch=
y to get 1billion registrations: 1 Million for 1 MS<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Multiple mapping sys=
tems<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: With DNS have t=
o wait for resolution - looks like you have same issue<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">w LISP DDT?<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino: Solved by LISP=
 has default cache in ITR.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Albert: if you don=
=E2=80=99t was to resolve, you can set default route to proxy RTR which has=
 all the mappings<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Fabio: Proxy DNS - y=
ou send to the router which has all the information.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino points that if =
there are too many mappings In LISP we can use proxy ETRs , where requests =
can be distributed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Tom: In ILA had too =
many mappings in one device and now ILA does something similar.<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>******************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Gerry Forster ( UoSu=
rrey) - ETSi NGP: GTP, Mobility=C2=A0 &amp; Flat 5G Architecture( 15 mins) =
Presented the mobile network as being most successful system,
 however GTP is expensive and adds to the cost for whoever is paying for sp=
ectrum. The user data is tunneled at least 3 times and GTP need to be updat=
ed for mobility.=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"=
>Smaller native headers (most of the time).</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
7.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Presented UoS work.=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Assoc=
iation-based secure membership of each level of network access</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Scala=
ble addressing (16 bit most of the time, 52 bit global). 3-level ID-based M=
obility (Cluster, Inter-Cluster, Network)</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.=
5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Routi=
ng tables are local, but indexed for gateway function by 3-level ID lookup =
(not DNS, but intelligent network hierarchy and Meta-Data)</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:7.5pt">.=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size=
:7.5pt">Transmission
 is tailored by profile to level of access, access type and networking leve=
l</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Looku=
ps/ routes are through intelligent use of meta-data based =E2=80=98Context=
=E2=80=99 =3D ID Enabled Networking=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.=
5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino: Can we assign =
IPv6 address but use a 16 bit address?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Gerry : Yes - can vi=
rtualize end-to-end.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Gerry: New protocol =
for access networks - can do the same for wifi.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dino: Only limit is =
65K connections at one time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Gerry: Limit the num=
ber of translations or compromise the delay.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>******************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Fabio Maino(Cisco) -=
 Deployment experience of=C2=A0 Mapping Systems ( 10 mins)<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Presented various us=
e cases and deployment experience Internet based VPN, IPv6 transition, BGP =
free multihoming, DC host mobility<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Up to now mapping sy=
stem in the router. Based on current requirements it is needed to bring map=
ping system out of the router.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>******************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dave Meyer (UoOregon=
/Brocade) - Machine Learning=C2=A0 and Network Mapping System=C2=A0 ( 15 Mi=
ns)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">??: How did you get =
the parameters from networking? Are they addresses<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Dave: Just flattened=
 the number - used different parameters e.g. number of<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">map requests? Other =
parameters - will need to learn what works in the network case.<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">********************=
**********<wbr>******************<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">A. Cabellos, J Vilan=
ova &amp; F Maino (UoCatalunya, Ecole P. Lausanne, Cisco) - A Blockchain-ba=
sed Mapping System (15 mins)=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: Have you look=
ed at scalability?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Fabio: Yes - scales =
well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">??: Is it clear that=
 use cases are enforcing new requirements other than are provided by LISP (=
for example)?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Will problem scope b=
e different than in LISP? What might be the advantage of IDEAS work rather =
than LISP?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: Out of time -=
 take it to the list. How can we be most useful?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Need to work on defi=
ning the exact scope.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">??:Will it be a BOF?=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Padma: Not sure yet.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">2. Admin &amp; Locat=
ion=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Date: Thursday, 17th=
 November 2016<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Time :=C2=A0<span cl=
ass=3D"m_-4419617848703552326m3551663443916052291gmail-abn">6:00 - 8:00pm</=
span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Venue: Studio2<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Mailing list: IDEAS<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">List address:=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"mailto:ideas@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ideas@ietf.org</a><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Archive:=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dideas" target=
=3D"_blank">https://mailarchive.<wbr>ietf.org/arch/search/?email_<wbr>list=
=3Dideas</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">To subscribe:=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ideas" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://www.ietf.<wbr>org/mailman/listinfo/ideas</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Related areas: RTG, =
OPS=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Scribe: Les Ginsberg=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Number of attendees:=
 40+3.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">3. Related Documents=
 and Reads:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><a href=3D"https://t=
ools.ietf.org/html/draft-padma-ideas-problem-statement-00" target=3D"_blank=
">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>draft-padma-ideas-problem-<wbr>statement=
-00</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><a href=3D"https://t=
ools.ietf.org/html/draft-herbert-nvo3-ila-03" target=3D"_blank">https://too=
ls.ietf.org/html/<wbr>draft-herbert-nvo3-ila-03</a><u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><a href=3D"https://t=
ools.ietf.org/html/rfc6830" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<=
wbr>rfc6830</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><a href=3D"https://t=
ools.ietf.org/html/rfc6833" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<=
wbr>rfc6833</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.3gpp.org/release-14" target=3D"_blank">http://www.3gpp.org/release-14</a>=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
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The RFCs described the intended evolution of the RFC Format are, as per 
the notice from Heather below, now available.  Please take a look.

The IESG has indicated that as the tooling development progress, they 
will allow these features in IDs.  They also note that early testing is 
obviously welcome.

Yours,
Joel

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Subject: 	[rfc-i] The RFC Format docs are now RFCs
Date: 	Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:14:27 -0800
From: 	Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) <rse@rfc-editor.org>
To: 	rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org, ietf@ietf.org



Hello all,

The RFC Format requirements documents were published this morning. This 
represents an enormous amount of work on the part of the RFC Format 
Design Team, and an enormous amount of patience and feedback from the 
community. Of course, the work isn't quite done - all of these RFCs will 
undergo a -bis cycle so we can document the "as built" instead of just 
the "as proposed." But regardless of the amount of work still to come, 
this is a big milestone for the project!

So, thank you all, and stay tuned for the next steps of code 
development, testing, and collecting feedback!

-Heather Flanagan, RSE

The RFC Format Design Team:

   * Nevil Brownlee (ISE)
   * Heather Flanagan (RSE)
   * Tony Hansen
   * Joe Hildebrand
   * Paul Hoffman
   * Ted Lemon
   * Julian Reschke
   * Adam Roach
   * Alice Russo
   * Robert Sparks (Tools Team liaison)
   * Dave Thaler


The RFCs, in suggested reading order:

   * "RFC Format Framework " - https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7990
   * "The "xml2rfc" Version 3 Vocabulary" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7991
   * "HTML Format for RFCs" - https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7992
   * "Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) Requirements for RFCs" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7993
   * "Requirements for Plain-Text RFCs" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7994
   * "PDF Format for RFCs" - https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7995
   * "SVG Drawings for RFCs: SVG 1.2 RFC" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7996
   * "The Use of Non-ASCII Characters in RFCs" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7997
   * ""xml2rfc" Version 3 Preparation Tool Description" -
     https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7997


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Hi All,

the extended WG LC for draft-ietf-lisp-sec-12 is now closed.

Several emails were in favour of moving this document forward and no =
objections were raised.
It seems that there is consensus to request publication of this =
document.

The writeup will follow soon.

Thanks you all for the work done and Merry Xmas

Luigi & Joel


> On 2 Dec 2016, at 17:50, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> feedback for this last call has been quite low. For this reason we =
decide to extend the last call for another two weeks, ending December =
16th.
>=20
> Please state your opinion on whether this document is ready for =
publication.
>=20
> Silence is NOT consensus.
>=20
> Ciao
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
>=20
>> On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net =
<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi All,
>>=20
>> The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document =
[https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/>] asked for WG =
Last Call.=20
>>=20
>> This email starts the usual two weeks WG Last Call, to end December  =
1st, 2016.
>>=20
>> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
it is ready for handing to the AD.
>> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain =
what it would take to address your concerns.
>>=20
>> Thanks
>>=20
>> Luigi & Joel
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Hi All,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">the=
 extended WG LC for draft-ietf-lisp-sec-12 is now closed.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Several emails were in =
favour of moving this document forward and no objections were =
raised.</div><div class=3D"">It seems that there is consensus to request =
publication of this document.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The writeup will follow soon.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks you all for the =
work done and Merry Xmas</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Luigi &amp; Joel</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 2 Dec 2016, at 17:50, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi All,<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">feedback for this last =
call has been quite low. For this reason we decide to extend the last =
call for another two weeks, ending December 16th.</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please state your opinion on whether =
this document is ready for publication.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Silence is NOT consensus.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ciao</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Luigi &amp; =
Joel</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 17 Nov 2016, at 09:36, Luigi =
Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" =
class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi All,<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The authors of the LISP-Security (LISP-SEC) document [<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-sec/</a>] =
asked for WG Last Call.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This email starts the usual two weeks =
WG Last Call, to end December &nbsp;1st, 2016.</div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please review this WG =
document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready for handing =
to the AD.</div></div><div class=3D"">If you have objections, please =
state your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your =
concerns.</div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></font><div class=3D"">Thanks</div></div><div class=3D""><font =
color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font>Luigi &amp; =
Joel</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></body></html>=

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