From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Thu Aug 3 11:42:50 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA21514 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17254 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rembrandt.esys.ca (IDENT:root@rembrandt.esys.ca [198.161.92.131]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17247 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kepler (wireless-134-145.ietf.marconi.com [147.73.134.145]) (authenticated) by rembrandt.esys.ca (8.11.0.Beta0/8.11.0.Beta0) with ESMTP id e73FVOl24307 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:31:24 -0600 From: Steve Hole Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:31:01 -0600 To: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: Concensus on separate service port and protocol for mtqp Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 5.1.1 Build (10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: The working group meeting notes outline the pros and cons of using a separate protocol for doing interactive message tracking. We gained concensus in the room that the key issue for making this decision was "unintentional service denial". That is, the natural behaviour of tracking agents to park on a tracking server and continuously ask the question, "has my message been delivered yet". Clearly, this is something that we would like to control (manage). The concensus is that that is best done through a separate service from SMTP. Barring significant disagreement on the list, this will be approach taken by the working group document authors. Now is the time to speak up. 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