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This draft is a work item of the Message Tracking Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Message Tracking Query Protocol Author(s) : T. Hansen Filename : draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt Pages : 20 Date : 01-Apr-02 Customers buying enterprise message systems often ask: Can I track the messages? Message tracking is the ability to find out the path that a particular message has taken through a messaging system and the current routing status of that message. This document describes the Message Tracking Query Protocol that is used in conjunction with exten- sions to the ESMTP protocol to provide a complete message tracking solu- tion for the Internet. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020401141727.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020401141727.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 2 19:21:26 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA09421 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g330ISR23684 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (root@horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g330IRm23680 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g330ITRn009163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g330ITdH009160; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:18:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15530.19028.982977.831442@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:18:28 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: Re: Reissue: last call on all working group protocol documents In-Reply-To: <15419.32337.223028.972260@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <15419.32337.223028.972260@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gshapiro> Just a reminder that I had posted comments for mtqp-04 and gshapiro> model-04. Tony ack'ed the changes so once the -05 versions of gshapiro> those two documents are sent to the I-D repository I think we can gshapiro> move forward with the last call. I see the new I-D's are out, thanks Tony! All of my old comments were integrated. But what good would I be if I didn't make new ones? :) draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt states: +1.2. Changes Made for -06 +Added opt-parameter to STARTTLS and description. + +1.3. Changes Made for -05 But the STARTTLS optional parameter was added to the -05 version, not the -06 version. I don't think this really matters for last call. Unfortunately, this one should be fixed before last call: + option identifier: STARTTLS + option parameters: none + added commands: STARTTLS + standard commands affected: none + specification reference: RFC TBD + discussion: see RFC TBD I think "option parameters" should list the optional [hostname] parameter. Also, do we need to define "hostname" in section 12? starttls-command = "STARTTLS" [hostname] CRLF I had used opt-text instead of [hostname] in patch I mailed to avoid this. From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 2 23:16:36 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA15319 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g334EtQ28040 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from kcmso2.proxy.att.com (kcmso2.att.com [192.128.134.71]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g334Erm28036 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from maillennium.att.com ([135.25.114.99]) by kcmso2.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-3.0) with ESMTP id g334Eq109007 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from att.com ([135.210.112.32]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20020403041450gw100h7uj7e> (Authid: tony); Wed, 3 Apr 2002 04:14:51 +0000 Message-ID: <3CAA7FBA.99C0AD1@att.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:06:18 -0500 From: Tony Hansen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro CC: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: Re: Reissue: last call on all working group protocol documents References: <15419.32337.223028.972260@horsey.gshapiro.net> <15530.19028.982977.831442@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To make it more confusing, you'll soon be seeing the real -05 that should have shown up in January appearing (probably tomorrow), followed by the real -06 versions that were supposed to come out today. :-( More below. Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > gshapiro> Just a reminder that I had posted comments for mtqp-04 and > gshapiro> model-04. Tony ack'ed the changes so once the -05 versions of > gshapiro> those two documents are sent to the I-D repository I think we can > gshapiro> move forward with the last call. > > I see the new I-D's are out, thanks Tony! > > All of my old comments were integrated. But what good would I be if > I didn't make new ones? :) > > draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-05.txt states: > > +1.2. Changes Made for -06 > +Added opt-parameter to STARTTLS and description. > + > +1.3. Changes Made for -05 > > But the STARTTLS optional parameter was added to the -05 version, not the > -06 version. I don't think this really matters for last call. > > Unfortunately, this one should be fixed before last call: > > + option identifier: STARTTLS > + option parameters: none > + added commands: STARTTLS > + standard commands affected: none > + specification reference: RFC TBD > + discussion: see RFC TBD > > I think "option parameters" should list the optional [hostname] parameter. Yes, it should be listed. I think it can be fixed during last call, though. > Also, do we need to define "hostname" in section 12? > > starttls-command = "STARTTLS" [hostname] CRLF > > I had used opt-text instead of [hostname] in patch I mailed to avoid this. It's already defined. In the intro, it says that any ABNF leafs not defined in this doc will be found in one of four other documents. Hostname is defined in one of those. Tony From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 5 07:05:13 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA02339 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 07:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g35C0cu08461 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 04:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g35C0am08457 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 04:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA02167; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 07:00:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200204051200.HAA02167@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-06.txt Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:00:34 -0500 Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Message Tracking Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Message Tracking Model and Requirements Author(s) : T. Hansen Filename : draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-06.txt Pages : 10 Date : 04-Apr-02 Customers buying enterprise message systems often ask: Can I track the messages? Message tracking is the ability to find out the path that a particular message has taken through a messaging system and the current routing status of that message. This document provides a model of message tracking that can be used for understanding the Internet-wide message infrastructure and to further enhance those capabilities to include message tracking, as well as requirements for proposed message tracking solutions. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-06.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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This draft is a work item of the Message Tracking Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Message Tracking Query Protocol Author(s) : T. Hansen Filename : draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-06.txt Pages : 20 Date : 04-Apr-02 Customers buying enterprise message systems often ask: Can I track the messages? Message tracking is the ability to find out the path that a particular message has taken through a messaging system and the current routing status of that message. This document describes the Message Tracking Query Protocol that is used in conjunction with exten- sions to the ESMTP protocol to provide a complete message tracking solu- tion for the Internet. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-06.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020404153323.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020404153323.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 9 13:22:38 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA12803 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g39HHTO29137 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kcmso1.proxy.att.com (kcmso1.att.com [192.128.133.69]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g39HHQm29132 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maillennium.att.com ([135.25.114.99]) by kcmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-3.0) with ESMTP id g39HHMn09569 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from att.com ([135.210.114.35]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20020409171721gw100h7u16e> (Authid: tony); Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: <3CB3219E.2070300@att.com> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 13:15:10 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steve.hole@messagingdirect.com, ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: IESG last call for msgtrk? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just submitted mtqp-07 to the ID, fixing the last couple of nits that were pointed out. I think it's time for us to go to IESG last call for all of the message tracking documents. Steve, what needs to happen for that? Tony Hansen tony@att.com From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 10 08:18:54 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA16397 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3ACDgV19331 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3ACDfm19327 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA16226; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200204101213.IAA16226@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:13:38 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Message Tracking Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Message Tracking Query Protocol Author(s) : T. Hansen Filename : draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt Pages : 20 Date : 09-Apr-02 Customers buying enterprise message systems often ask: Can I track the messages? Message tracking is the ability to find out the path that a particular message has taken through a messaging system and the current routing status of that message. This document describes the Message Tracking Query Protocol that is used in conjunction with exten- sions to the ESMTP protocol to provide a complete message tracking solu- tion for the Internet. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020409132724.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20020409132724.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 10 14:22:56 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28218 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3AII9712936 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (root@horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3AII8m12932 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3AIHwmk054405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g3AIHwub054402; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15540.33238.296041.608480@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:17:58 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Tony Hansen Cc: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: Re: Reissue: last call on all working group protocol documents In-Reply-To: <3CAA7FBA.99C0AD1@att.com> References: <15419.32337.223028.972260@horsey.gshapiro.net> <15530.19028.982977.831442@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3CAA7FBA.99C0AD1@att.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> + option identifier: STARTTLS >> + option parameters: none >> + added commands: STARTTLS >> + standard commands affected: none >> + specification reference: RFC TBD >> + discussion: see RFC TBD gshapiro> I think "option parameters" should list the optional [hostname] gshapiro> parameter. tony> Yes, it should be listed. I think it can be fixed during last call, tony> though. I must apologize -- I was wrong on this one. This block is documenting the capability, not the command. The capability doesn't have parameters, the command does. Sorry about that. From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 12 12:41:30 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA16951 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 12:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3CGb3E10810 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rembrandt.esys.ca (IDENT:root@rembrandt.esys.ca [198.161.92.131]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3CGb1m10806 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kepler.esys.ca (kepler.esys.ca [198.161.92.108]) (authenticated) by rembrandt.esys.ca (8.11.0.Beta0/8.11.0.Beta0) with ESMTP id g3CGb0j30584; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:37:00 -0600 From: Steve Hole Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:35:06 -0700 To: Tony Hansen Subject: Re: IESG last call for msgtrk? Cc: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org In-Reply-To: <3CB3219E.2070300@att.com> References: <3CB3219E.2070300@att.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Linux Phoenix a1 Build (5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id g3CGb1m10807 Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 13:15:10 -0400 Tony Hansen wrote: > I just submitted mtqp-07 to the ID, fixing the last couple of nits that > were pointed out. > > I think it's time for us to go to IESG last call for all of the message > tracking documents. I was actually waiting for the release annoucement from the ID editor to come to this working group mailing list before I reset our internal last call ... but I haven't seen it yet. I saw an announcement through the WG chairs list, but nothing here. Perhaps I simply missed it for some reason. Anyway, the process is to do a working group last call on the new documents. Presumably, as the new version resulted from issues raised on the previous last call, we will proceed through WG last call and I can then put everything into Ned and Patrick's queue. So ... now that everyone knows that Tony's final versions are available, let's reissue WG last call on the entire set of protocol drafts and we'll carry on. You have two weeks, starting now to bring comments to the list. Comments not published to the list will not be accepted as part of the last call process. Cheers. --- Steve Hole Chief Technology Officer - Billing and Payment Systems ACI Worldwide Phone: 780-424-4922 From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Sun Apr 14 04:11:19 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA15486 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 04:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3E86Vn08138 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hongkong.com (hongkong.com [202.84.12.149] (may be forged)) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id g3E86Pm08132 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hongkong.com([10.1.0.101]) by hongkong.com(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm43cb94f66; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 08:13:06 -0000 Received: from loki.ietf.org([132.151.1.177]) by hongkong.com(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm5d3cb449f4; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:59:02 -0000 Received: (from adm@localhost) by loki.ietf.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id JAA27300 for ietf-123-outbound.03@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [10.27.2.28]) by loki.ietf.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26478 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA16226; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200204101213.IAA16226@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:13:38 -0400 X-Auto-Forward: nicklau@hongkong.com Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Message Tracking Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Message Tracking Query Protocol Author(s) : T. Hansen Filename : draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt Pages : 20 Date : 09-Apr-02 Customers buying enterprise message systems often ask: Can I track the messages? Message tracking is the ability to find out the path that a particular message has taken through a messaging system and the current routing status of that message. This document describes the Message Tracking Query Protocol that is used in conjunction with exten- sions to the ESMTP protocol to provide a complete message tracking solu- tion for the Internet. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-07.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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