From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 6 12:53:04 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA20160 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g56GpUK22100 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (root@horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g56GpTn22096 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (wireless-nat.Sendmail.COM [209.246.26.36]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g56GpOtH083617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g56GpPG7033270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g56GpKPH033266; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15615.37639.972789.596255@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:51:19 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org Subject: Last call vs expired drafts? X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do we have to worry that the drafts we are asking for a last call on are expired? current/draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-06.txt current/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-08.txt expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-protocol-00.txt expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-smtpext-03.txt expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-trkstat-03.txt From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 6 19:32:53 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA14509 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g56HWdJ27362 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kcmso2.proxy.att.com (kcmso2.att.com [192.128.134.71]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g56HWan27350 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maillennium.att.com ([135.25.114.99]) by kcmso2.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-4.0) with ESMTP id g56HWVpk024486 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:32:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from att.com (tony-ob.mt.att.com[135.91.35.108]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20020606173230gw1000ma4pe> (Authid: tony); Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:32:30 +0000 Message-ID: <3CFF9BF8.2010004@att.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:29:28 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/20020512 Netscape/7.0b1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Ned Freed CC: ietf-msgtrk@imc.org, Internet-Drafts Administrator Subject: Re: Last call vs expired drafts? References: <15615.37639.972789.596255@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm, I-Ds are not supposed to be expirable when they're in IESG Last Call. Ned? As for -protocol, it was replaced by -smtpext. So it rightly expired a long time ago. Tony Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > Do we have to worry that the drafts we are asking for a last call on are > expired? > > current/draft-ietf-msgtrk-model-06.txt > current/draft-ietf-msgtrk-mtqp-08.txt > > expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-protocol-00.txt > expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-smtpext-03.txt > expired/draft-ietf-msgtrk-trkstat-03.txt From owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 6 19:39:39 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA15954 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g56Nc5T10611 for ietf-msgtrk-bks; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [209.55.107.55]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g56Nc3n10607 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01KILTGO4PWG0001B1@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-msgtrk@imc.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ned.freed@mrochek.com Subject: Re: Last call vs expired drafts? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:29:28 -0400" <3CFF9BF8.2010004@att.com> To: Tony Hansen Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Ned Freed , ietf-msgtrk@imc.org, Internet-Drafts Administrator Message-id: <01KIM88N2JK80001B1@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <15615.37639.972789.596255@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net> <3CFF9BF8.2010004@att.com> Sender: owner-ietf-msgtrk@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Hmmm, I-Ds are not supposed to be expirable when they're in IESG Last > Call. Ned? Quite true when they are in IESG last call. But that doesn't happen until after AD review is complete. Any expired msgtrk drafts should be reposted by the relevant authors ASAP. Ned