From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Feb 2 16:04:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015A221F84F4; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:04:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AQVROpM3U9r4; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3D821F8536; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:04:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.37 Message-ID: <20130203000443.12599.41961.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:04:43 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-09.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:04:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IP= v6 Author(s) : Sri Gundavelli Xingyue Zhou Jouni Korhonen Rajeev Koodli Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-09.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-02-02 Abstract: This specification defines a new mobility option, IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector option, for Proxy Mobile IPv6. This option can be used by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway for negotiating IPv4 traffic offload policy for a mobility session. Based on the negotiated IPv4 traffic offload policy, a mobile access gateway can selectively offload some of the IPv4 traffic flows in the access network instead of tunneling back to the local mobility anchor in the home network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-09 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Feb 12 13:19:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C2721F8B5B; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:19:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.082, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t2cdrYNV76OP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC29921F8B7E; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.37 Message-ID: <20130212211948.31921.81963.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:19:48 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-10.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:19:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IP= v6 Author(s) : Sri Gundavelli Xingyue Zhou Jouni Korhonen Rajeev Koodli Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-10.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-02-12 Abstract: This specification defines a new mobility option, IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector option, for Proxy Mobile IPv6. This option can be used by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway for negotiating IPv4 traffic offload policy for a mobility session. Based on the negotiated IPv4 traffic offload policy, a mobile access gateway can selectively offload some of the IPv4 traffic flows in the access network instead of tunneling back to the local mobility anchor in the home network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-10 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sravikum@cisco.com Tue Feb 12 15:37:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD2E21F8994; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:37:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OzX2IuUC8Bll; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDA421F898A; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:37:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1481; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1360712226; x=1361921826; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=wEkT0wKsTkr9sWsdIDmEeIeoaIB5fA9VwEw2kHvKWtI=; b=kP7VJCxxCv9cTQH60nikBA8FgHNZghuXAwbexycRsEb/aSa00qEHdwtK sLp6lYAfbiP3jXPjZ0HtoChT1uv49FIqYmMg3xROqC272yCngvFDmMRWJ 9M86sYma2Ar/Sjj3SQIfC8/JgfIiJ8ftOtn3TTG0Xkjyj+VTsXJKnTSx6 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgoFABXRGlGtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABEgmyBDbxyFnOCHwEBAQQ6PRQBCCIUQhsBBgMCBAEaARKHdwEGBa9hkAORJGEDl0GPNoMGgic X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,652,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="176393995" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2013 23:37:06 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com [173.36.12.78]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1CNb6Gn002618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:37:06 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([fe80::5404:b599:9f57:834b]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:37:05 -0600 From: "Ravikumar Chandrasekaran (sravikum)" To: "netext@ietf.org" , "pcp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHOCXncpwwka3rr0EiPH8wZ4KtDgA== Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:37:04 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130211162000.17677.55270.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.65.66.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7F4FE1495142754FA38C4A0692CA8973@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [netext] FW: New Version Notification for draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-02.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:37:07 -0000 This updated revision of our draft addresses comments from Gang Chen. Thanks, Ravikumar > >A new version of I-D, draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-02.txt >has been successfully submitted by Ravikumar Chandrasekaran and posted to >the >IETF repository. > >Filename: draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery >Revision: 02 >Title: PCP Server Discovery with IPv4 traffic offload for Proxy Mobile >IPv6 >Creation date: 2013-02-11 >WG ID: Individual Submission >Number of pages: 13 >URL: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-0 >2.txt >Status: =20 >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery >Htmlized: =20 >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-02 >Diff: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-rpcw-pcp-pmipv6-serv-discovery-02 > >Abstract: > This document proposes a solution to PCP Server Discovery problems in > Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6) networks when both home network traffic > and traffic off-loaded to local access network require traversing a > gateway implementing NAT and/or Firewall. This draft proposes > enhancements to DHCPv4 Relay Agent by introducing a new sub-option > under DHCPv4 Relay Option and to PMIPv6 signaling through additional > options to Proxy Binding Update/Acknowledgement messages. > > =20 > =20 > > >The IETF Secretariat > From brian@innovationslab.net Wed Feb 13 10:17:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80CA21F8A3F; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:17:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1Xinssl+-yQ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AE721F892D; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F189188155; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from 102526165.rudm1.ra.johnshopkins.edu (addr16212925014.ippl.jhmi.edu [162.129.250.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C47413000C; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:17:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <511BD8BA.8070601@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:17:30 -0500 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmm@ietf.org, "netext@ietf.org" , mip4@ietf.org References: <511BD640.80700@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <511BD640.80700@ieee.org> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <511BD640.80700@ieee.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000000030507040708010300" Subject: [netext] IEEE802 OmniRAN Executive Committee Study Group seeking for input on use cases X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:17:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000000030507040708010300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, The OmniRAN effort within the IEEE is looking for input on use cases. Regards, Brian -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ieee-ietf-coord] IEEE802 OmniRAN Executive Committee Study Group seeking for input on use cases Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:06:56 +0100 From: Max Riegel Organization: -- To: ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org, Dan Romascanu CC: Paul Nikolich , Roger Marks , Juan Carlos Zuniga Dear Dan, The IEEE 802 OmniRAN Executive Committee Study Group decided in its first meeting in the week of January 14th, 2013 in Vancouver, BC, Canada to create a use cases document showing potential applications of an OmniRAN specification. It hereby solicits input documents to progress the development of the work. Please find the liaison letter and the call for contributions document attached to this email. We kindly appreciate input from IETF. 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_______________________________________________ ieee-ietf-coord mailing list ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieee-ietf-coord --------------000000030507040708010300-- From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Wed Feb 13 10:24:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D4C21F8821 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:24:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WbkKpBZbILtj for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425DC21F8816 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49558 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U5h0m-0001Cz-3s; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:24:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:24:52 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/12#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.e1b81f2e36781de90e260334486aa93b@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <066.21c3ae47b2fbf187e34cb9093fff7c09@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 12 In-Reply-To: <066.21c3ae47b2fbf187e34cb9093fff7c09@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Resent-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Resent-Message-Id: <20130213182453.425DC21F8816@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:24:53 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding policies X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:24:58 -0000 #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding policies Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): (apologies for not addressing this until now) I agree policy consistency is critical, and this is actually reflected in the draft. However, since the charter does not allows any type of IP signaling between the MAG and LMA, specifying any type of policy alignment signaling as part of the document seems to be clearly out of the scope. The consensus I got from the WG (based on current charter boundaries) was to leave that unspecified, so it can be done using L2 signaling for example (and be specified by other SDOs). Do you have any suggestion on how to give clues without specifying a solution in the document? Would it be enough to provide informative examples (e.g., conveying that info as part of L2 signaling)? -- -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Wed Feb 13 10:26:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6E321E8041 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:26:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Kv9cDVehh76 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C002721E8030 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49712 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U5h1s-0006HA-F4; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:26:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:26:00 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/14#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.329070c2ed1cfbd617590bf6ee10e0ab@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <066.98cfed4dabfacff3dee7d769de9d3aa3@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 14 In-Reply-To: <066.98cfed4dabfacff3dee7d769de9d3aa3@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Resent-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Resent-Message-Id: <20130213182619.C002721E8030@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:26:19 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #14: Align terminology X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:26:27 -0000 #14: Align terminology Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): (apologies for not addressing this until now) Thanks for pointing this out. It will be fixed in the next revision of the document -- -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Wed Feb 13 10:36:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70F321F84F0 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:36:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JZyufMJBZMe5 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72A21F84ED for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50484 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hBW-0008Tn-Vs; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:35:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:35:58 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/16#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.6bc5077dba4b0f70b8827703427f353d@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <066.3e6b8aecad5b672bd54c5b2b61eaa5bd@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 16 In-Reply-To: <066.3e6b8aecad5b672bd54c5b2b61eaa5bd@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Resent-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Resent-Message-Id: <20130213183600.1A72A21F84ED@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:35:59 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #16: requirement for single interface X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:36:01 -0000 #16: requirement for single interface Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): This was introduced to address the review performed by Marco Liebsch, and also the suggestions from the chairs, to remove a strong dependency on the logical interface. If two different IP addresses are configured, IP session continuity is still possible (for each of the configured IP addresses). What is needed is the network to deliver packets for IP X to the right MN's physical interface, and the MN to select the right outgoing interface when sending traffic back (of course using IP X as source address). -- -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Wed Feb 13 10:49:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07BB21F86E6 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1TEUUGoj7uz for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E58B21F86E1 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51390 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U5hOV-0008Eq-GF; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:49:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:49:23 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/15#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <066.92fae5892dd47f6df59125978f3b0285@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 15 In-Reply-To: <066.92fae5892dd47f6df59125978f3b0285@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Resent-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Resent-Message-Id: <20130213184924.3E58B21F86E1@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:49:25 -0000 #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): (apologies for not addressing this until now) Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became draft-ietf-netext- update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA and use the notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility purposes. I think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG could also request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated handover triggers documented there). I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep FMI/FMA or adopt the use of update notifications? -- -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: Keywords: | -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Wed Feb 13 10:56:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4F1F0D08 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:56:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u3AA5oyzVUbl for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (smtp01.uc3m.es [163.117.176.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862F41F0CE7 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAACCC6042 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:56:46 +0100 (CET) X-uc3m-safe: yes X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [163.117.139.72] (acorde.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp01.uc3m.es) by smtp01.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24256C5B979 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:56:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1360781805.4099.76.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: netext@ietf.org Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:56:45 +0100 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-7.0.0.1014-19636.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--13.229-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--13.229-7.0-31-1 Subject: [netext] Addressing tickets submitted via the issue tracker for draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:56:48 -0000 Hi all, First, I want to apologize for leaving the tickets on draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob unattended until now. I want to devote energy to this so we can hopefully make progress in the following weeks. My goal is to submit -06 before the meeting submission deadline (even considering that NETEXT is not meeting in Orlando) and keep on working so we can resolve all the issues during the next couple of months. I've started looking at them and already provided comments to several. Please, provide feedback as the document is owned by the WG. Based on the consensus I'll update accordingly the document. Thanks! Carlos From sarikaya2012@gmail.com Wed Feb 13 11:26:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4973421F86B3 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.202, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K7LkVrY9G+yz for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2669021F86B2 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fq12so1538378lab.33 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aK3RDf0Xuxkyj8N7xGouB6m/GqoN3L7wxbwN0Ji0Usc=; b=DmRbP3gKs98LA9lS2oTZCaHuiEnnYqsd7tarSpHiRDk797bfjVbmTqHStmJbaJr/6B sxBcpvdrii0N6MQ0XDwBrl34m7mTFVbKMswGXM6MpI3DC+3f9yJaSsGbge284y570ufe ZOPE1MELx4P2VEeIEWXvHtyeFOqC0d14/pLozifyGuROM6h2R38sMVVzBsvubOka63iM 15d+BRbqO53hl6nigztPUR2QGCgmHjd5kcaDzvT2+s6xWGYTHkzqKmqz1u6uHjZg+PfV /KfzIc/fWusayPvQWSBlhQjuhGBowR4lecQHRjd0JUxNj/j20OYmZTQCCL6m0yV3zkrx +udA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.28.102 with SMTP id a6mr9065599lbh.109.1360783614892; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.28.168 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:26:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <066.92fae5892dd47f6df59125978f3b0285@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:26:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: netext@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040168b3fb5b9904d5a01f60 Cc: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:26:57 -0000 --f46d040168b3fb5b9904d5a01f60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Carlos, Here is what Suresh wrote on a similar issue: > What are we going to do with LRI/LRA defined in RFC 6705 by Suresh himself? Nothing :-). The LRI is not a generic notification message. It cannot be used for other purposes than LR. FMI also is not a generic notification message, it is quite similar to LRI in semantics. Regards, Behcet On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, netext issue tracker < trac+netext@grenache.tools.ietf.org> wrote: > #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became draft-ietf-netext- > update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA and use the > notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility purposes. I > think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG could also > request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated handover > triggers documented there). > > I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep FMI/FMA or adopt > the use of update notifications? > > -- > -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: enhancement | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > Severity: - | Resolution: > Keywords: | > -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- > > Ticket URL: < > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/15#comment:1> > netext > > _______________________________________________ > netext mailing list > netext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > --f46d040168b3fb5b9904d5a01f60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carlos,

Here is what Suresh wrote on a similar issue:

> What are we going to do with LRI/LRA defined in RFC 6705 by Suresh hi= mself? Nothing :-). The LRI is not a generic notification message. It cannot be used for other purposes than LR.FMI also is not a generic notificatio= n message, it is quite similar to LRI in semantics.

Regards,

= Behcet

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, = netext issue tracker <trac+netext@grenache.tools.ietf.or= g> wrote:
#15: use "update noti= fication" for FMI/FMA


Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es):<= br>
=A0(apologies for not addressing this until now)

=A0Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became draft-ietf-netex= t-
=A0update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA and use = the
=A0notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility purposes. I =A0think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG could also
=A0request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated handover
=A0triggers documented there).

=A0I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep FMI/FMA or a= dopt
=A0the use of update notifications?

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=A0Reporter: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 = =A0 Owner: =A0draft-ietf-netext-
=A0 pierrick.seite@orange.com<= /a> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org
=A0 =A0 =A0Type: =A0enhancement =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0Sta= tus: =A0new
=A0Priority: =A0major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 Mileston= e:
Component: =A0pmipv6-flowmob =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 Version:
=A0Severity: =A0- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| = =A0Resolution:
=A0Keywords: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |
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Ticket URL: <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/tra= c/ticket/15#comment:1>
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--f46d040168b3fb5b9904d5a01f60-- From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Wed Feb 13 11:45:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E688A21E8040 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:45:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cLrcxMjArRvS for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.176.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221421E803D for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9926989465D; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:45:43 +0100 (CET) X-uc3m-safe: yes X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [163.117.139.72] (acorde.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp02.uc3m.es) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D1C7767187; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:45:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1360784743.4099.105.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: sarikaya@ieee.org Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:45:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <066.92fae5892dd47f6df59125978f3b0285@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-7.0.0.1014-19636.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--25.287-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--25.287-7.0-31-1 Cc: netext@ietf.org, draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:45:47 -0000 Hi Behcet, So you suggest to keep using the FMI? Carlos On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:26 -0600, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > Here is what Suresh wrote on a similar issue: > > > What are we going to do with LRI/LRA defined in RFC 6705 by Suresh himself? > > Nothing :-). The LRI is not a generic notification message. It cannot be > used for other purposes than LR. > FMI also is not a generic notification message, it is quite similar to > LRI in semantics. > > Regards, > > Behcet > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, netext issue tracker +netext@grenache.tools.ietf.org> wrote: > #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA > > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became > draft-ietf-netext- > update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA > and use the > notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility > purposes. I > think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG > could also > request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated > handover > triggers documented there). > > I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep > FMI/FMA or adopt > the use of update notifications? > > -- > -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Reporter: | Owner: > draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | > pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: enhancement | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > > Severity: - | Resolution: > Keywords: | > -------------------------------------+------------------------------------- > > Ticket URL: > > netext > > _______________________________________________ > netext mailing list > netext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > From sarikaya2012@gmail.com Wed Feb 13 11:58:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9044B21E8037 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SmDclEWW5rP9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5467021F866E for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n3so1209828lbo.6 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9QPzPFEk/bpaVGHvMx+SAncfTj8cp5JVSyEOb4eSgN4=; b=XlT0BDTgkwDiNdUuB07Uu+2vBc9dHPovxYz1m9xsiLl9bUw/1/vTsA/Hfxk7334hEI meaqaN6MYZbkcYzCkvNGrdwz9/Nr+kPYTGm1g5znOo4HHs1sTW9AYpNXdgYqU0G7eySj h2P+zxOYN29fnnSECS8IpZJqgDX+pwVn3AIf8PvA25rbVnxINkeO2d2E9VAdfnl74sT7 hAT1tkcHCzEPIUlhx/JpRbXYTXkmLwjIf0XJjs1uNQMvBxXbWhP0o7p1Qu9en2T5GpfQ +apeKW89pb8ByQ8oR+3DeSkcQdBc+HelJniuRWXQ+Nw5Q1Z1faIxl4yJ4kkwHDu0Ccmm Nksw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.109.112 with SMTP id hr16mr18275344lab.38.1360785519233; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.28.168 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:58:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1360784743.4099.105.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> References: <066.92fae5892dd47f6df59125978f3b0285@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> <1360784743.4099.105.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:58:39 -0600 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54eea707d48b904d5a09104 Cc: netext@ietf.org, draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:58:41 -0000 --bcaec54eea707d48b904d5a09104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano < cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote: > Hi Behcet, > > So you suggest to keep using the FMI? > > Carlos > > On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:26 -0600, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > > Hi Carlos, > > > > Here is what Suresh wrote on a similar issue: > > > > > What are we going to do with LRI/LRA defined in RFC 6705 by Suresh > himself? > > > > Nothing :-). The LRI is not a generic notification message. It cannot b= e > > used for other purposes than LR. > > FMI also is not a generic notification message, it is quite similar to > > LRI in semantics. > > > > Regards, > > > > Behcet > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, netext issue tracker > +netext@grenache.tools.ietf.org> wrote: > > #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA > > > > > > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > > > Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became > > draft-ietf-netext- > > update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA > > and use the > > notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility > > purposes. I > > think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG > > could also > > request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated > > handover > > triggers documented there). > > > > I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep > > FMI/FMA or adopt > > the use of update notifications? > > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------+-----------------------------------= -- > > Reporter: | Owner: > > draft-ietf-netext- > > pierrick.seite@orange.com | > > pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > > Type: enhancement | Status: new > > Priority: major | Milestone: > > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > > > > Severity: - | Resolution: > > Keywords: | > > > -------------------------------------+-----------------------------------= -- > > > > Ticket URL: > > > > netext > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > > > > > > --bcaec54eea707d48b904d5a09104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes.



On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:45= PM, Carlos Jes=FAs Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote:
Hi Behcet,

So you suggest to keep using the FMI?

Carlos

On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 13:26 -0600, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Here is what Suresh wrote on a similar issue:
>
> > What are we going to do with LRI/LRA defined in RFC 6705 by Sures= h himself?
>
> Nothing :-). The LRI is not a generic notification message. It cannot = be
> used for other purposes than LR.
> FMI also is not a generic notification message, it is quite similar to=
> LRI in semantics.
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:49 PM, netext issue tracker <trac
> +netext@grenache.too= ls.ietf.org> wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA >
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Comment (by cjbc@it= .uc3m.es):
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(apologies for not addressing this until now)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications be= came
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 draft-ietf-netext-
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0update-notifications, I'd be supportive of remo= ving FMI/FMA
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 and use the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mo= bility
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 purposes. I
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0think this would also help to address issue #17 (th= e MAG
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 could also
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN i= nitiated
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 handover
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0triggers documented there).
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should= we keep
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 FMI/FMA or adopt
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the use of update notifications?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -------------------------------------+----------------= ---------------------
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Reporter: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 =A0 Owner:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-netext-
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 pierr= ick.seite@orange.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pm= ipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: =A0enhancement =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0Status: =A0new
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Priority: =A0major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0| =A0 Milestone:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Component: =A0pmipv6-flowmob =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0= =A0 Version:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Severity: =A0- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0Resolution:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Keywords: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 |
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -------------------------------------+----------------= ---------------------
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ticket URL:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/n= etext/trac/ticket/15#comment:1>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 netext <http://tools.ietf.org/netext/>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 _______________________________________________
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 netext mailing list
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 netext@ietf.org=
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext
>
>



--bcaec54eea707d48b904d5a09104-- From sgundave@cisco.com Wed Feb 13 15:40:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4672421F8B3A for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jTQmww4XKZWM for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81F721F866D for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:40:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1640; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1360798831; x=1362008431; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=XFBFY5PpbkpX2ZPOmPz3cJrJbnjjLEk1egDce8Ictzo=; b=KaFAfzznnXbDLwh0Q52hFJEM1dnieJl52OA4e1U4niQg6JJV11kFOrxM Yt4F70/tVDCb8Txhc3GiYiBECMMSh+sO8O9R5ZjBcpj401QITpdsw1Dsj m5pVPWihH8YRjIOIvB/1E0DFw0XPmVnyTlYsMGoEIDGZ9JIqOZ3oG81ep g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAOIiHFGtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABFwG4Wc4IhAQQBAQE3NAkCEgEIIhQ3CyUCBAENBQiICgy/bo1Ug09hA5dBiiaFEIMGgic X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,660,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="176822760" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Feb 2013 23:40:31 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com [173.36.12.79]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1DNeVFl019304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:40:31 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.6.8]) by xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com ([173.36.12.79]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:40:31 -0600 From: "Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)" To: netext issue tracker , "draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" Thread-Topic: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA Thread-Index: AQHOCkOCisndsqzZhEilieC/jKTKGw== Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:40:30 +0000 Message-ID: <24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA81015C1E3@xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.154.141.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "netext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:40:33 -0000 Ack. Agree with this. Regards Sri On 2/13/13 10:49 AM, "netext issue tracker" wrote: >#15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA > > >Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became >draft-ietf-netext- > update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA and use the > notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility purposes. I > think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG could also > request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated handover > triggers documented there). > > I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep FMI/FMA or adopt > the use of update notifications? > >--=20 >-------------------------------------+------------------------------------ >- > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: enhancement | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: >Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > Severity: - | Resolution: > Keywords: | >-------------------------------------+------------------------------------ >- > >Ticket URL:=20 > >netext > >_______________________________________________ >netext mailing list >netext@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext From rkoodli@cisco.com Wed Feb 13 21:53:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4EE21F8778 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:53:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wb4WklTSFr7K for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0A721F8611 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:53:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1824; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1360821210; x=1362030810; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=HU23BDPMTu/HQo8/KXLF14FR146vo+k0AGaqn5mjFSM=; b=AKPoYPM34mXLqianT4xqBpckFyeUU2jZfPX8KZp1EBNPJSkK+OuT2eZw x2Ey6oTn1Djqo8xGIh5vaJzHhRf8nIUKnFyuAM940N3ERMSWhLLGJ14px WkVf97LbK5SOb2QL8stlI2o9iR2/a4bjskvpdmcez2Rh2cQi9mZe1XKPJ 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAHZ7HFGtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABEwG0Wc4IhAQQBAQE3NAkCEgEIIhQ3CyUCBAENBQiICgzADI06GoNPYQOXQYomhRCDBoFyNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,662,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="176947204" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2013 05:53:29 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x02.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x02.cisco.com [173.37.183.76]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1E5rT5p027095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:53:29 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x04.cisco.com ([169.254.9.127]) by xhc-rcd-x02.cisco.com ([173.37.183.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:53:29 -0600 From: "Rajeev Koodli (rkoodli)" To: netext issue tracker , "draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" Thread-Topic: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA Thread-Index: AQHOChrp9PVaofNixkaBfN3Pn4qyQ5h4udMA Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:53:29 +0000 Message-ID: <7C52FDEBC843C44DBAF2CA6A30662C6D1DE278@xmb-aln-x04.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <081.da5e4c25a1a1923379bffc472009f9a0@trac.tools.ietf.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.21.75.167] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "netext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netext] #15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:53:31 -0000 Carlos, I am not sure about this.. I would like us to wrap up the the FM draft, without yet another dependency (cf. Suresh's earlier email on #15). So, yes, please keep FMI/FMA and finish the doc. Thanks. -Rajeev On 2/13/13 10:49 AM, "netext issue tracker" wrote: >#15: use "update notification" for FMI/FMA > > >Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > Since draft-krishnan-netext-update-notifications became >draft-ietf-netext- > update-notifications, I'd be supportive of removing FMI/FMA and use the > notification message to trigger PBU/PBA for flow mobility purposes. I > think this would also help to address issue #17 (the MAG could also > request moving a flow to the LMA, covering the MN initiated handover > triggers documented there). > > I'd like to ask the WG opinions on this: should we keep FMI/FMA or adopt > the use of update notifications? > >--=20 >-------------------------------------+------------------------------------ >- > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: enhancement | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: >Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > Severity: - | Resolution: > Keywords: | >-------------------------------------+------------------------------------ >- > >Ticket URL:=20 > >netext > >_______________________________________________ >netext mailing list >netext@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext From pierrick.seite@orange.com Thu Feb 14 02:49:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254CB21F872E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:49:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15wQF1CxiLRy for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAA021F86CC for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.1]) by omfedm14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id F223222C687; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:49:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.183]) by omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id CF82535C05A; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:49:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81f:1640:4749:5d13]) by PEXCVZYH02.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:49:09 +0100 From: To: 'netext issue tracker' , "draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" Thread-Topic: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding policies Thread-Index: AQHOChd9safhqaXeZEySRxx9UiVJYJh5Ebxg Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:49:09 +0000 Message-ID: <9141_1360838949_511CC125_9141_1551_1_81C77F07008CA24F9783A98CFD706F7108D0DA@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <066.21c3ae47b2fbf187e34cb9093fff7c09@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.e1b81f2e36781de90e260334486aa93b@trac.tools.ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <081.e1b81f2e36781de90e260334486aa93b@trac.tools.ietf.org> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.31.121227 Cc: "netext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding policies X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:49:14 -0000 Hi, Clearly, I'm not suggesting to describe mechanism for policy alignment, let= alone specifying MN-MAG signaling. Annex giving example on what can be done with L2 signaling may help. Howeve= r, I think, the draft should state simple and clear assumptions on mobility= control to avoid ambiguity on policy alignment. Basically, I suggest to ad= d the following assumption (at least for prefix sharing scenario): The MN makes the final IP flow mobility decision, then the LMA follows that= decision and update its forwarding state accordingly. Note that, It does n= ot prevent network initiated mobility, the network still could trigger mobi= lity on the MN side via out-of-band mechanisms (e.g. 3GPP/ANDSF sends updat= ed routing policies to the MN)... Actually, I'm suggesting the following st= atement "the MN always makes the final decision" Pierrick > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] De la > part de netext issue tracker > Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 13 f=E9vrier 2013 19:25 > =C0=A0: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org; cjbc@it.uc3m.es > Cc=A0: netext@ietf.org > Objet=A0: Re: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain > consistent forwarding policies >=20 > #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding > policies >=20 >=20 > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): >=20 > (apologies for not addressing this until now) >=20 > I agree policy consistency is critical, and this is actually reflected > in the draft. However, since the charter does not allows any type of > IP signaling between the MAG and LMA, specifying any type of policy > alignment signaling as part of the document seems to be clearly out of > the scope. > The consensus I got from the WG (based on current charter boundaries) > was to leave that unspecified, so it can be done using L2 signaling > for example (and be specified by other SDOs). >=20 > Do you have any suggestion on how to give clues without specifying a > solution in the document? Would it be enough to provide informative > examples (e.g., conveying that info as part of L2 signaling)? >=20 > -- > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > - > -------------------------------------+--- > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: defect | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: > Keywords: | > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > - > -------------------------------------+--- >=20 > Ticket URL: > > netext >=20 > _______________________________________________ > netext mailing list > netext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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From pierrick.seite@orange.com Thu Feb 14 03:41:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D288F21F874C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:41:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UXSyPCYIArF0 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93BC21F874A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.1]) by omfedm10.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 2CCC5264767; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:41:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.186]) by omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 0679035C064; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:41:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81f:1640:4749:5d13]) by PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:41:22 +0100 From: To: 'netext issue tracker' , "draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" Thread-Topic: [netext] #16: requirement for single interface Thread-Index: AQHOChj69s2NLES+PUCmzWM28Y0H75h5NY7Q Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:41:21 +0000 Message-ID: <11267_1360842083_511CCD63_11267_3596_1_81C77F07008CA24F9783A98CFD706F7108D146@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <066.3e6b8aecad5b672bd54c5b2b61eaa5bd@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.6bc5077dba4b0f70b8827703427f353d@trac.tools.ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <081.6bc5077dba4b0f70b8827703427f353d@trac.tools.ietf.org> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.2.14.100316 Cc: "netext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netext] #16: requirement for single interface X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:41:25 -0000 > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] De la > part de netext issue tracker > Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 13 f=E9vrier 2013 19:36 > =C0=A0: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org; cjbc@it.uc3m.es > Cc=A0: netext@ietf.org > Objet=A0: Re: [netext] #16: requirement for single interface >=20 > #16: requirement for single interface >=20 >=20 > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): >=20 > This was introduced to address the review performed by Marco Liebsch, > and also the suggestions from the chairs, to remove a strong > dependency on the logical interface. >=20 > If two different IP addresses are configured, IP session continuity is > still possible (for each of the configured IP addresses). What is > needed is the network to deliver packets for IP X to the right MN's > physical interface, and the MN to select the right outgoing interface > when sending traffic back (of course using IP X as source address). >=20 Ok. I guess that, in this case, mobility of an IP flow requests the MN to s= upport the weak host model, right?=20 May I suggest to reword the following sentence (section 3.2.1) [if the IP layer at the mobile node shows one single interface, then the mo= bile node has one single IPv6 address configured at the IP layer: pref1::mn= 1. Otherwise, two different IPv6 addresses (pref1::if1 and pref1::if2) woul= d be configured.] As [if the IP layer at the mobile node shows one single logical interface [ref= to logical interface I-D], then the mobile node has one single IPv6 addres= s configured at the IP layer: pref1::mn1. Otherwise, per interface IPv6 add= resses (e.g. pref1::if1 and pref1::if2) would be configured; each address m= ust be valid on every interfaces.] > -- > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > - > -------------------------------------+--- > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > Type: defect | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: > Keywords: | > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > - > -------------------------------------+--- >=20 > Ticket URL: > > netext >=20 > _______________________________________________ > netext mailing list > netext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Thu Feb 14 13:20:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB3221F858C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:20:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fzeNg30PXsqx for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (smtp02.uc3m.es [163.117.176.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E7021F85A2 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368A489502B; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:20:34 +0100 (CET) X-uc3m-safe: yes X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [192.168.1.3] (82.158.126.26.dyn.user.ono.com [82.158.126.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp02.uc3m.es) by smtp02.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08CD576760F; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:20:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1360876833.4271.31.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: pierrick.seite@orange.com Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:20:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9141_1360838949_511CC125_9141_1551_1_81C77F07008CA24F9783A98CFD706F7108D0DA@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <066.21c3ae47b2fbf187e34cb9093fff7c09@trac.tools.ietf.org> <081.e1b81f2e36781de90e260334486aa93b@trac.tools.ietf.org> <9141_1360838949_511CC125_9141_1551_1_81C77F07008CA24F9783A98CFD706F7108D0DA@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-7.0.0.1014-19638.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--33.980-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--33.980-7.0-31-1 Cc: 'netext issue tracker' , "netext@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding policies X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:20:41 -0000 Hi Pierrick, Please see inline below. On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 10:49 +0000, pierrick.seite@orange.com wrote: > Hi, > > Clearly, I'm not suggesting to describe mechanism for policy > alignment, let alone specifying MN-MAG signaling. OK, glad we are on the same page :D > > Annex giving example on what can be done with L2 signaling may help. > However, I think, the draft should state simple and clear assumptions > on mobility control to avoid ambiguity on policy alignment. Basically, > I suggest to add the following assumption (at least for prefix sharing > scenario): > > The MN makes the final IP flow mobility decision, then the LMA follows > that decision and update its forwarding state accordingly. Note that, > It does not prevent network initiated mobility, the network still > could trigger mobility on the MN side via out-of-band mechanisms (e.g. > 3GPP/ANDSF sends updated routing policies to the MN)... Actually, I'm > suggesting the following statement "the MN always makes the final > decision" OK, let me add some text along those lines in the next version of the draft. Thanks! > > Pierrick > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] De la > > part de netext issue tracker > > Envoyé : mercredi 13 février 2013 19:25 > > À : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org; cjbc@it.uc3m.es > > Cc : netext@ietf.org > > Objet : Re: [netext] #12: missing considerations on how to maintain > > consistent forwarding policies > > > > #12: missing considerations on how to maintain consistent forwarding > > policies > > > > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > > > (apologies for not addressing this until now) > > > > I agree policy consistency is critical, and this is actually reflected > > in the draft. However, since the charter does not allows any type of > > IP signaling between the MAG and LMA, specifying any type of policy > > alignment signaling as part of the document seems to be clearly out of > > the scope. > > The consensus I got from the WG (based on current charter boundaries) > > was to leave that unspecified, so it can be done using L2 signaling > > for example (and be specified by other SDOs). > > > > Do you have any suggestion on how to give clues without specifying a > > solution in the document? Would it be enough to provide informative > > examples (e.g., conveying that info as part of L2 signaling)? > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > > - > > -------------------------------------+--- > > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > > Type: defect | Status: new > > Priority: major | Milestone: > > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > > Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: > > Keywords: | > > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > > - > > -------------------------------------+--- > > > > Ticket URL: > > > > netext > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:22:54 -0000 Hi Pierrick, Please see inline below. On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 11:41 +0000, pierrick.seite@orange.com wrote: > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] De la > > part de netext issue tracker > > Envoyé : mercredi 13 février 2013 19:36 > > À : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org; cjbc@it.uc3m.es > > Cc : netext@ietf.org > > Objet : Re: [netext] #16: requirement for single interface > > > > #16: requirement for single interface > > > > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > > > This was introduced to address the review performed by Marco Liebsch, > > and also the suggestions from the chairs, to remove a strong > > dependency on the logical interface. > > > > If two different IP addresses are configured, IP session continuity is > > still possible (for each of the configured IP addresses). What is > > needed is the network to deliver packets for IP X to the right MN's > > physical interface, and the MN to select the right outgoing interface > > when sending traffic back (of course using IP X as source address). > > > > Ok. I guess that, in this case, mobility of an IP flow requests the MN > to support the weak host model, right? Yes, that's one possibility. > > May I suggest to reword the following sentence (section 3.2.1) > > [if the IP layer at the mobile node shows one single interface, then the mobile node has one single IPv6 address configured at the IP layer: pref1::mn1. Otherwise, two different IPv6 addresses (pref1::if1 and pref1::if2) would be configured.] > > As > > [if the IP layer at the mobile node shows one single logical interface [ref to logical interface I-D], then the mobile node has one single IPv6 address configured at the IP layer: pref1::mn1. Otherwise, per interface IPv6 addresses (e.g. pref1::if1 and pref1::if2) would be configured; each address must be valid on every interfaces.] I'm fine with your proposal. I'll use that text in the next revision of the draft, unless people disagree. Carlos > > > -- > > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > > - > > -------------------------------------+--- > > Reporter: | Owner: draft-ietf-netext- > > pierrick.seite@orange.com | pmipv6-flowmob@tools.ietf.org > > Type: defect | Status: new > > Priority: major | Milestone: > > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: > > Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: > > Keywords: | > > -------------------------------------+--------------------------------- > > - > > -------------------------------------+--- > > > > Ticket URL: > > > > netext > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Feb 14 15:14:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB5921F8911; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yNh7bIorkjKC; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E061221F8928; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:14:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130214231409.6411.48557.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:14:09 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-11.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:14:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IP= v6 Author(s) : Sri Gundavelli Xingyue Zhou Jouni Korhonen Rajeev Koodli Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-11.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-02-14 Abstract: This specification defines a new mobility option, IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector option, for Proxy Mobile IPv6. This option can be used by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway for negotiating IPv4 traffic offload policy for a mobility session. Based on the negotiated IPv4 traffic offload policy, a mobile access gateway can selectively offload some of the IPv4 traffic flows in the access network instead of tunneling back to the local mobility anchor in the home network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-11 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Sun Feb 24 10:54:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B93B21F908B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:54:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IeTPPWHI+W0 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7E021F9086 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56436 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U9giK-0005wM-H8; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:54:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: sarikaya@ieee.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:54:20 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/19#comment:1 Message-ID: <073.4df49e3187f1b4826e6f9f79caf5f521@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <058.bcc117d55633f322db3cf82014276600@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 19 In-Reply-To: <058.bcc117d55633f322db3cf82014276600@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: sarikaya@ieee.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #19: Issue in using BID from RFC 5648 X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:54:26 -0000 #19: Issue in using BID from RFC 5648 Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): Hi, Apologies for the late reply. Let me explain the background of this solution design decision. The idea is to avoid defining as many new stuff as possible. It is true that the BID, as defined in RFC 5648, is registered by the MN, but here we are just trying to re-use the signaling, though obviusly the context is a bit different. Here is what -05 says about it: "This specification re-uses the extensions defined in [RFC5648] to manage multiple registrations, but in the context of Proxy Mobile IPv6. The binding cache is therefore extended to include more than one proxy care-of addresses and to associate each of them with a binding identifier (BID). Note that the BID is a local identifier, assigned and used by the local mobility anchor to identify which entry of the flow mobility cache is used to decide how to route a given flow." Also note that this BID in the BC of the LMA is used in conjunction with the flow mobility cache, which basically re-uses the extensions defined in RFC6089, which is about flow mobility (in the context of MIPv6). Therefore, I see that RFC5648 + RFC6089 are about flow mobility. -- ----------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: sarikaya@ieee.org | Owner: sarikaya@ieee.org Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: milestone1 Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: 2.0 Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: BID, PMIPv6, flow mobility | ----------------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org Sun Feb 24 10:57:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2FD21F90A2 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:57:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cZt4Ra--7PdJ for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B2B21F90A1 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56873 helo=grenache.tools.ietf.org ident=www-data) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U9gl3-0007wn-Cg; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:57:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "netext issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.3 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.3, by Edgewall Software To: sarikaya@ieee.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es X-Trac-Project: netext Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:57:09 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/netext/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/ticket/18#comment:1 Message-ID: <073.5265aee16be3d6678c67b57bbfa17df2@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <058.1ea82dc2a6722fa4b8df6e5bd9ca98e8@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 18 In-Reply-To: <058.1ea82dc2a6722fa4b8df6e5bd9ca98e8@trac.tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: sarikaya@ieee.org, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, netext@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac+netext@trac.tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #18: Interface marking is needed X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:57:12 -0000 #18: Interface marking is needed Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): Hi, Apologies for the late reply. As I understand it, issue #19 is related to this. In -05, the proposed re- use of some of the extensions defined in RFC5648 and RFC6089 are basically providing support similar to what you are referring in this issue. Please, let me know why the solution described in #19 does not solve your concerns. -- --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: sarikaya@ieee.org | Owner: sarikaya@ieee.org Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: milestone1 Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: 2.0 Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: PMIP flow mobility | --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ticket URL: netext From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 15:20:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5961921F909D; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.097, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y4XSJ--fO1qW; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9598721F90A2; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:20:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130224232013.18208.27137.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:20:13 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:20:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IP= v6 Author(s) : Sri Gundavelli Xingyue Zhou Jouni Korhonen Rajeev Koodli Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-02-24 Abstract: This specification defines a new mobility option, IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector option, for Proxy Mobile IPv6. This option can be used by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway for negotiating IPv4 traffic offload policy for a mobility session. Based on the negotiated IPv4 traffic offload policy, a mobile access gateway can selectively offload some of the IPv4 traffic flows in the access network instead of tunneling back to the local mobility anchor in the home network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sgundave@cisco.com Sun Feb 24 15:38:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95E821F909D for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:38:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dBYno7A+5oDY for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021BC21F8E57 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:38:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2254; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1361749091; x=1362958691; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=GEqBAkAkjOoOtLZMKcfWtm5SoHpfI1zEEQRa4+ArnEs=; b=hJHkM7SO4koC6H85Zz4dZIy/CjsQg94kDEHMu2+5HwxEEClbIQ261sXw VLU9tjbzCg0vsvPQ49j5im0iz7/2O2BNb53AfJfmyBMCh5HHtvBmCjH3Q 4auB2bWcMHyrvD6dzS0EZ3c6lXnPGVYES7iIoYlZAxj25Za3EKbTqD43w w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFANWjKlGtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABFg3i9WIERFnOCIQEEAQEBNzQLEgEIIhQ3CyUCBA4FCAGICgcFvG6OWwIxB4JfYQOXWo9IgweCJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,730,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="180608522" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Feb 2013 23:38:10 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com [173.36.12.77]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1ONcAJc032668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:38:10 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.6.8]) by xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com ([173.36.12.77]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:38:10 -0600 From: "Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)" To: "netext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt Thread-Index: AQHOEugBf3AS5w5qNUysWsENEw+2CQ== Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:38:10 +0000 Message-ID: <24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810175789@xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130224232013.18208.27137.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.32.246.213] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Basavaraj Patil Subject: Re: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:38:11 -0000 WG: FYI. This is the final version that has completed all IESG reviews. The changes that went into the document are mainly in Section 3.2 and 3.3, and 4.0 related to the use of 2119 language and some rewording of the LMA/MAG considerations for better explanation. Changes were also there related to reordering of few sections, moving the option format to the initial sections of the document. Regards Sri =20 On 2/24/13 3:20 PM, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions >Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile >IPv6 > Author(s) : Sri Gundavelli > Xingyue Zhou > Jouni Korhonen > Rajeev Koodli > Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2013-02-24 > >Abstract: > This specification defines a new mobility option, IPv4 Traffic > Offload Selector option, for Proxy Mobile IPv6. This option can be > used by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway for > negotiating IPv4 traffic offload policy for a mobility session. > Based on the negotiated IPv4 traffic offload policy, a mobile access > gateway can selectively offload some of the IPv4 traffic flows in the > access network instead of tunneling back to the local mobility anchor > in the home network. > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-1= 2 > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >_______________________________________________ >netext mailing list >netext@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 07:06:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB1921F92B5; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:06:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuMSNgIryFgo; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B1921F9469; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:06:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130225150623.11793.48184.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:06:23 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob-06.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:06:23 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : Proxy Mobile IPv6 Extensions to Support Flow Mobility Author(s) : Carlos J. Bernardos Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob-06.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2013-02-25 Abstract: Proxy Mobile IPv6 allows a mobile node to connect to the same Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain through different interfaces. However, the ability of movement of selected flows from one access technology to another is missing in the basic Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol. This document describes extensions to the Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol that are required to support network based flow mobility over multiple physical interfaces. The extensions required consist on the operations performed by the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway to manage the prefixes assigned to the different interfaces of the mobile node, as well as how the forwarding policies are handled by the network to ensure consistent flow mobility management. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sgundave@cisco.com Mon Feb 25 09:59:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A1821E805E for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.271 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.271 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.273, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rAaMfvJ2sisc for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B815F21E8082 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:59:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=48297; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1361815144; x=1363024744; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=2Uk0UTUt2iJ6A5+0HiQf6oadsx3Fq8xHoVYSP1AhzlM=; b=b7Ho3GuCyA7pxWWQi3yYA7f51/9vL746O5Hc7CzoEKjqwSZOwP8x6pi4 1TB+6P1Xd+34goNF9B+lqeqr8h9tXUd+2uVQ3psLam6XIInl512ci1w/t CsgFAhSiDuLiAs4CAmCX4CL2t8SOIsZs58mc5okLMitnvegmatom1XJYt Y=; X-Files: draft-ietf-netext-logical-interface-support-06.txt : 33553 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAOKjK1GtJXG+/2dsb2JhbAA7CoJDvxSBBRZzghYLAQQaDUkBARkBCwEOECYfERcQBAoJCAYNh2YDDwyeW5crDYh/jDd7CwaBGoMXYQOKXoRFg1mBZIJ6ijGFF4MHgXI1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,736,1355097600"; d="txt'?scan'208,217";a="180968588" Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Feb 2013 17:59:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com [173.36.12.78]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1PHx3up004862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:59:03 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.6.8]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:59:03 -0600 From: "Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)" To: "netext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Logical Interface Spec - Julien's Update Thread-Index: AQHOE4HMlagSAOQOeECdRDdt3TOFxA== Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561@xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.21.125.82] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561xmbalnx03ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [netext] Logical Interface Spec - Julien's Update X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:59:17 -0000 --_004_24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561xmbalnx03ciscoc_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561xmbalnx03ciscoc_" --_000_24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561xmbalnx03ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the update to the Logical Interface spec from Julien. Thanks to Ju= lien for his help. Please review and comment. We won't be posting a revision today. Some or a= ll of these changes will be incorporated, based on the comments from the WG= /Authors. Regards Sri --_000_24C0F3E22276D9438D6F366EB89FAEA810177561xmbalnx03ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is the update to the Logical Interface spec from Julien.  Th= anks to Julien for his help.

Please review and comment. We won't be posting a revision today.  = ;Some or all of these changes will be incorporated, based on the comments f= rom the WG/Authors.



Regards
Sri







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h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qjJw1EQJR/tYl8CYJ4CgV4raizz2PHBq+peNrOtSdKk=; b=R3eEoGxxKSRXvGdbU/bsBJIZAof41y5ntApVATF46IpZ9fXsArzjAvxPnnoNeIvDIm ZEKIY+6ek1QRGpThHNta2x89HcyrOGtajih5/zdzw70D/l/4zG9BEWCgHclv7GgRAr9J WgGCw8qFcrb1Zz44XGUjNvaQAoPOGgdas7YrfAcRSUGgL37oEynVWw58SMEwz7XAfUVP qwzQFOWpYJ82hbzNiZZzNz2Qod2hxG1A6MV64AEZy4PZSgo+WssVdeKKdfbQ0IbbsjPF tBpfpO0D1CE2s48HRj2iUGtuToZkJv4eFq0zEIfyddXZdUfy+Yxox9hUYctpwhi9ph/E FJuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.28.102 with SMTP id a6mr4711932lbh.109.1361816118383; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.28.168 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:15:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <073.4df49e3187f1b4826e6f9f79caf5f521@trac.tools.ietf.org> References: <058.bcc117d55633f322db3cf82014276600@trac.tools.ietf.org> <073.4df49e3187f1b4826e6f9f79caf5f521@trac.tools.ietf.org> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:15:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: netext issue tracker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040168b3fc54ad04d69085ca Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netext] #19: Issue in using BID from RFC 5648 X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:15:20 -0000 --f46d040168b3fc54ad04d69085ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Carlos, I don't understand why LMA would need the BID? As I mentioned, the problem is MAGs who only see one interface. Another important point you keep missing is that in RFC5648, there is a clear distinction between the home interface and the visited interfaces. When PMIPv6 deviates from RFC 5213 model for the interfaces and start to treat the different interfaces from the same MN in an integrated fashion PMIPv6 also has to do the same. That's why you need interface marking. By using interface marking MAG gets to know about multiple interfaces and LMA can differentiate between the two type of interface registrations. BID is superfluous in that there is already flow id in 6089. Regards, Behcet On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, netext issue tracker < trac+netext@grenache.tools.ietf.org> wrote: > #19: Issue in using BID from RFC 5648 > > > Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es): > > Hi, > > Apologies for the late reply. > > Let me explain the background of this solution design decision. The idea > is to avoid defining as many new stuff as possible. It is true that the > BID, as defined in RFC 5648, is registered by the MN, but here we are just > trying to re-use the signaling, though obviusly the context is a bit > different. Here is what -05 says about it: > > "This specification re-uses the extensions defined in [RFC5648] to > manage multiple registrations, but in the context of Proxy Mobile > IPv6. The binding cache is therefore extended to include more than > one proxy care-of addresses and to associate each of them with a > binding identifier (BID). Note that the BID is a local identifier, > assigned and used by the local mobility anchor to identify which > entry of the flow mobility cache is used to decide how to route a > given flow." > > Also note that this BID in the BC of the LMA is used in conjunction with > the flow mobility cache, which basically re-uses the extensions defined in > RFC6089, which is about flow mobility (in the context of MIPv6). > Therefore, I see that RFC5648 + RFC6089 are about flow mobility. > > -- > ----------------------------------------+-------------------------------- > Reporter: sarikaya@ieee.org | Owner: sarikaya@ieee.org > Type: defect | Status: new > Priority: major | Milestone: milestone1 > Component: pmipv6-flowmob | Version: 2.0 > Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: > Keywords: BID, PMIPv6, flow mobility | > ----------------------------------------+-------------------------------- > > Ticket URL: > > netext > > --f46d040168b3fc54ad04d69085ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carlos,

I don't understand why LMA would need the BID?
As = I mentioned, the problem is MAGs who only see one interface.

Another= important point you keep missing is that in RFC5648, there is a clear dist= inction between the home interface and the visited interfaces.

When PMIPv6 deviates from RFC 5213 model for the interfaces and start t= o treat the different interfaces from the same MN in an integrated fashion = PMIPv6 also has to do the same.

That's why you need interface ma= rking. By using interface marking MAG gets to know about multiple interface= s and LMA can differentiate between the two type of interface registrations= .

BID is superfluous=A0 in that there is already flow id in 6089.

=
Regards,

Behcet

On Sun, Feb 24= , 2013 at 12:54 PM, netext issue tracker <trac+netext@gr= enache.tools.ietf.org> wrote:
#19: Issue in using BID fr= om RFC 5648


Comment (by cjbc@it.uc3m.es):<= br>
=A0Hi,

=A0Apologies for the late reply.

=A0Let me explain the background of this solution design decision. The idea=
=A0is to avoid defining as many new stuff as possible. It is true that the<= br> =A0BID, as defined in RFC 5648, is registered by the MN, but here we are ju= st
=A0trying to re-use the signaling, though obviusly the context is a bit
=A0different. Here is what -05 says about it:

=A0 =A0 "This specification re-uses the extensions defined in [RFC5648= ] to
=A0 =A0 manage multiple registrations, but in the context of Proxy Mobile =A0 =A0 IPv6. =A0The binding cache is therefore extended to include more th= an
=A0 =A0 one proxy care-of addresses and to associate each of them with a =A0 =A0 binding identifier (BID). =A0Note that the BID is a local identifie= r,
=A0 =A0 assigned and used by the local mobility anchor to identify which =A0 =A0 entry of the flow mobility cache is used to decide how to route a =A0 =A0 given flow."

=A0Also note that this BID in the BC of the LMA is used in conjunction with=
=A0the flow mobility cache, which basically re-uses the extensions defined = in
=A0RFC6089, which is about flow mobility (in the context of MIPv6).
=A0Therefore, I see that RFC5648 + RFC6089 are about flow mobility.

--
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=A0Reporter: =A0sari= kaya@ieee.org =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 =A0 Owner: =A0sarikaya@ieee.org
=A0 =A0 =A0Type: =A0defect =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0= =A0 =A0Status: =A0new
=A0Priority: =A0major =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 Mil= estone: =A0milestone1
Component: =A0pmipv6-flowmob =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 Version: = =A02.0
=A0Severity: =A0Active WG Document =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0Resolution= :
=A0Keywords: =A0BID, PMIPv6, flow mobility =A0|
----------------------------------------+----------------------------= ----

Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/netext/trac/= ticket/19#comment:1>
netext <http= ://tools.ietf.org/netext/>


--f46d040168b3fc54ad04d69085ca-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 13:22:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC0F21E80B2; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F4l5EXMYdw6p; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E756421E80BA; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:22:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130225212209.30230.36261.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:22:09 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:22:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : Quality of Service Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6 Author(s) : Marco Liebsch Pierrick Seite Hidetoshi Yokota Jouni Korhonen Sri Gundavelli Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2013-02-25 Abstract: This specification defines a new mobility option that can be used by the mobility entities in the Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain to exchange Quality of Service parameters associated with a subscriber's IP flows. Using the QoS option, the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway can exchange available QoS attributes and associated values. This enables QoS policing and labeling of packets to enforce QoS differentiation on the path between the local mobility anchor and the mobile access gateway. Furthermore, making QoS parameters available on the MAG enables mapping these parameters to QoS rules being specific to the access technology which operates below the mobile access gateway. After such mapping, QoS rules can be enforced on the access technology components, such as an IEEE 802.11e Wireless LAN controller. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 15:31:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFAD21E816F; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:31:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bGOJOB8OW+dD; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B4721E8176; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:31:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130225233130.16194.5969.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:31:30 -0800 Cc: netext@ietf.org Subject: [netext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-06.txt X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:31:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working= Group of the IETF. Title : Prefix Delegation for Proxy Mobile IPv6 Author(s) : Xingyue Zhou Jouni Korhonen Carl Williams Sri Gundavelli Carlos J. Bernardos Filename : draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-06.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2013-02-25 Abstract: Proxy Mobile IPv6 enables IP mobility for a host without requiring its participation in any mobility signaling, being the network responsible for managing IP mobility on behalf of the host. However, Proxy Mobile IPv6 does not support assigning a prefix to a router and managing its IP mobility. This document specifies an extension to Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol for supporting network mobility using DHCPv6-based Prefix Delegation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 08:48:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C87221F87D3; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mFWFCJYeyY2t; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E58121F8934; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40p1 Message-ID: <20130226164812.22267.38655.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 Cc: netext mailing list , netext chair , RFC Editor Subject: [netext] Protocol Action: 'IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt) X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:48:13 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6' (draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Brian Haberman and Ralph Droms. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option/ Technical Summary: This specification defines a mechanism and a related mobility option for carrying IPv4 Offload traffic selectors between a mobile access gateway and a local mobility anchor in a Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain. Based on the received offload flow selectors from the local mobility anchor, a mobile access gateway can enable offload traffic rule on the selected IPv4 flows. The intent of the option being defined in this I-D is to enable IPv4 traffic associated with a mobile node to be routed from the access network itself instead of having to tunnel it back to the home network (Local Mobility Agent). Working Group Summary: There is nothing unusual about this I-D or WG process w.r.t this I-D that is noteworthy. The I-D has been presented and discussed at various IETF meetings and has been reviewed by several WG members and chair. Since one of the co-authors (Rajeev Koodli) is also a Netext WG chair, he has recused himself from the review or shepherding process and I am acting as the sole chair with responsibility for this I-D. Document Quality: There are no known implementations of this extension at the present time. A few vendors have expressed plans to implement this specification as part of their 3GPP solutions for traffic offloading. All reviewers of this I-D have been acknowledged and there is no reason for a special mention of any specific reviewer. This I-D did not specify a MIB or any Media type and hence such experts were not called upon to provide their feedback. Personnel: Document shepherd: Basavaraj Patil (NetExt WG Co-chair) Responsible AD: Brian Haberman From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 08:48:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF2D21F8891 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qcjjKI7AczJ1; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FDD21F8945; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IANA X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40p1 X-IETF-Draft-string: draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option X-IETF-Draft-revision: 12 Message-ID: <20130226164812.22267.27527.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:48:12 -0800 Cc: netext mailing list , netext chair , RFC Editor Subject: [netext] Protocol Action: 'IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt) X-BeenThere: netext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: noreply@ietf.org List-Id: "Mailing list for discusion of extensions to network mobility protocol, i.e PMIP6. " List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:48:13 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IPv4 Traffic Offload Selector Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6' (draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Brian Haberman and Ralph Droms. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-sipto-option/ Technical Summary: This specification defines a mechanism and a related mobility option for carrying IPv4 Offload traffic selectors between a mobile access gateway and a local mobility anchor in a Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain. Based on the received offload flow selectors from the local mobility anchor, a mobile access gateway can enable offload traffic rule on the selected IPv4 flows. The intent of the option being defined in this I-D is to enable IPv4 traffic associated with a mobile node to be routed from the access network itself instead of having to tunnel it back to the home network (Local Mobility Agent). Working Group Summary: There is nothing unusual about this I-D or WG process w.r.t this I-D that is noteworthy. The I-D has been presented and discussed at various IETF meetings and has been reviewed by several WG members and chair. Since one of the co-authors (Rajeev Koodli) is also a Netext WG chair, he has recused himself from the review or shepherding process and I am acting as the sole chair with responsibility for this I-D. Document Quality: There are no known implementations of this extension at the present time. A few vendors have expressed plans to implement this specification as part of their 3GPP solutions for traffic offloading. All reviewers of this I-D have been acknowledged and there is no reason for a special mention of any specific reviewer. This I-D did not specify a MIB or any Media type and hence such experts were not called upon to provide their feedback. Personnel: Document shepherd: Basavaraj Patil (NetExt WG Co-chair) Responsible AD: Brian Haberman