Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.wrs.com [147.11.1.11]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h4SKAAoR021608; Wed, 28 May 2003 22:10:11 +0200 Received: from IDLEWYLDE.windriver.com ([147.11.233.8]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17091; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030528160509.0448cdf8@mail.windriver.com> X-Sender: mrw@mail.windriver.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:05:57 -0400 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder From: Margaret Wasserman Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings Cc: Network Management Research Group In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -9.9 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.8 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Juergen, Did you make any decision about this? I could still do a meeting on the Friday/Saturday after the Vienna IETF if that works for others... But, I'd like to know ASAP so that I can book my plane tickets. Thanks, Margaret At 03:25 PM 5/7/2003 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to >hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. >I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > >- what specific topics do you suggest to work on > >- whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil > >Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether >such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > >- next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July > >- next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) > >Please let me know what you think. > >/js > >-- >Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen >Phone: +49 421 200 3587 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany >Fax: +49 421 200 3103 >-- >!! 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Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.34.81]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h4SAU0oS005804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 12:30:00 +0200 Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (strauss@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h4SAU0ru005823; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:30:00 +0200 Received: (from strauss@localhost) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) id h4SATx3C005820; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:29:59 +0200 From: Frank Strauss To: internet-drafts@ietf.org Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Date: 28 May 2003 12:29:59 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -6.4 () USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: [nmrg] NMRG SMIng Internet Drafts Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! Please post the following three documents as Internet Drafts. They are produced by the Network Management Research Group (NMRG) of the IRTF. Their sequence number suffix is "03", because there have been previous incarnations of these documents some time ago. http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-03.txt http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-snmp-03.txt http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-modules-03.txt Thank you. -frank -- Frank Strauss strauss@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Technical University Braunschweig http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/~strauss/ Institute of Operating Systems & Computer Networks Phone: +49 531 391-3266 Muehlenpfordtstrasse 23, 38106 Braunschweig, Germany Fax: +49 531 391-5936 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h4J4qNwt006617; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:52:24 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (funnel.cisco.com [161.44.168.79]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4J4qKkL005957; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdroms-w2k.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-478.cisco.com [10.21.81.222]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20139; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030518182937.0a8f7160@funnel.cisco.com> X-Sender: rdroms@funnel.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 18:30:30 -0400 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder , Network Management Research Group From: Ralph Droms Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: nmrgfuture meetings In-Reply-To: References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -22.4 () DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-22.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 06:46 AM 5/12/2003 -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder said: > >Juergen> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July I would prefer to meet some time during or immediately after the Vienna IETF... - Ralph Droms Received: from netlx014.civ.utwente.nl (netlx014.civ.utwente.nl [130.89.1.88]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h4IBqLwt018619; Sun, 18 May 2003 13:52:21 +0200 Received: from ctit.utwente.nl (adsl219222.adsl.utwente.nl [130.89.225.67]) by netlx014.civ.utwente.nl (8.11.4/HKD) with ESMTP id h4IBqKi02094; Sun, 18 May 2003 13:52:20 +0200 Message-ID: <3EC773F4.8040300@ctit.utwente.nl> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 13:52:20 +0200 From: Aiko Pras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder CC: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -29.5 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-29.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA autolearn=ham version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: A bit late, but here are my answers Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to > hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. > I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > > - what specific topics do you suggest to work on Although the XML, SOAP, WSDL activities are very interesting and fit well in what we've done before, we must take care that we have a clear focus for the meeting, which should NOT be a netconf WG meeting! > > - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil No > > Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether > such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > > - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July Unlikely (because of holiday), but not impossible > > - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) Sure, no problem Aiko > > Please let me know what you think. > > /js > Received: from localhost.localdomain (adsl-66-127-127-227.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [66.127.127.227]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h4CDkLJ6031046; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:22 +0200 Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4CDkH317987; Mon, 12 May 2003 06:46:17 -0700 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Wes Hardaker X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 Organization: Network Associates Laboratories Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 06:46:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> (Juergen Schoenwaelder's message of "Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.5 (brussels sprouts, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [nmrg] Re: nmrgfuture meetings Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder said: Juergen> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July I'd certainly prefer this, as it means I'd actually be able to attend anther one (sorry my appearances are so rare). -- Wes Hardaker Network Associates Laboratories Received: from mail3.bluewin.ch (mail3.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.75]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h4C6kCJ6014693 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:46:13 +0200 Received: from ieee.org (62.202.164.33) by mail3.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.7.018) id 3EBB9BFA0003ECF9 for nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de; Mon, 12 May 2003 06:17:03 +0000 Message-ID: <3EBF3C53.90607@ieee.org> Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:16:51 +0200 From: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" Reply-To: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I cannot attend LANOMS. Next to the IETF meeting, I am currently free from July 12 to 19 included. I have to go on July 19 at 6:00 pm at the latest. Next to DSOM, I am free from October 18 to 25. I would rather stay near Heidelberg than go to Bremen, if possible. Regarding topics, I would like to discuss: - XML-based configuration management - layered information modeling JP Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to > hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. > I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > > - what specific topics do you suggest to work on > > - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil > > Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether > such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > > - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July > > - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) > > Please let me know what you think. > > /js > Received: from cosium01.intelliden.net (cosium01.intelliden.net [12.41.186.248]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h48G0obP004568; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:00:51 +0200 Received: by cosium01.intelliden.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:00:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: John Strassner To: "'Frank Strauss'" , Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group Subject: RE: [nmrg] future meetings Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:00:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3157A.FD751CD0" X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0.2 () MIME_NULL_BLOCK,MAILTO_LINK X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=MIME_NULL_BLOCK,MAILTO_LINK version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3157A.FD751CD0 Content-Type: text/plain I can't make it to Brazil, though I would love to go. I'll be at MMNS in Ireland. Gee Frank, maybe we should talk about the upcoming I-D that I intend to write. ;-) Though I doubt I will submit it to netconf... regards, John John Strassner Chief Strategy Officer Intelliden Corporation 90 South Cascade Avenue Colorado Springs, CO 80903 USA phone: +1.719.785.0648 FAX: +1.719.785.0644 email: john.strassner@intelliden.com -----Original Message----- From: Frank Strauss [mailto:strauss@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 AM To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings Hi! Juergen> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary Juergen> to hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 Juergen> (early September) in Iguassu Falls. I would like to collect Juergen> feedback from you, especially: Juergen> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on My two personally preferred topics are (a) getting deeper into netconf related stuff, especially how to get netconf operations specified and realized with existing RPC technologies (especially WSDL & SOAP) and (b) developing a piece of software to monitor SNMP traffic characteristics. Juergen> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Juergen> Brazil I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would really love to travel to Brazil. However, I have severe doubts that I will be able to get there. Any of the proposed meeting places in DE or AT would seem much more realistic to me personally. -frank -- !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to !! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3157A.FD751CD0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [nmrg] future meetings

I can't make it to Brazil, though I would love to go. = I'll be at MMNS in Ireland.

Gee Frank, maybe we should talk about the upcoming = I-D that I intend to write. ;-) Though I doubt I will submit it to = netconf...

regards,
John
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Strauss [mailto:strauss@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 AM
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
Cc: Network Management Research Group
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings


Hi!

Juergen> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal = Gaspary
Juergen> <anacris@cpovo.net> to hold a = meeting next to LANOMS 2003
Juergen> (early September) in Iguassu = Falls.  I would like to collect
Juergen> feedback from you, especially:

Juergen> - what specific topics do you suggest to = work on

My two personally preferred topics are (a) getting = deeper into netconf related stuff, especially how to get netconf = operations specified and realized with existing RPC technologies = (especially WSDL & SOAP) and (b) developing a piece of software to = monitor SNMP traffic characteristics.

Juergen> - whether you will be able to travel to = such a meeting in
Juergen> Brazil

I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would = really love to travel to Brazil. However, I have severe doubts that I = will be able to get there.  Any of the proposed meeting places in = DE or AT would seem much more realistic to me personally.

 -frank
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3157A.FD751CD0-- Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.34.81]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h488xAbQ017831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:59:10 +0200 Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h488xAxm015181; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:59:10 +0200 Received: (from strauss@localhost) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) id h488x94p015178; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:59:09 +0200 From: Frank Strauss To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Date: 08 May 2003 10:59:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! Juergen> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary Juergen> to hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 Juergen> (early September) in Iguassu Falls. I would like to collect Juergen> feedback from you, especially: Juergen> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on My two personally preferred topics are (a) getting deeper into netconf related stuff, especially how to get netconf operations specified and realized with existing RPC technologies (especially WSDL & SOAP) and (b) developing a piece of software to monitor SNMP traffic characteristics. Juergen> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would really love to travel to Brazil. However, I have severe doubts that I will be able to get there. Any of the proposed meeting places in DE or AT would seem much more realistic to me personally. -frank Received: from tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (tokyo.ccrle.nec.de [195.37.70.2]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h486h7bP026894; Thu, 8 May 2003 08:43:07 +0200 Received: from venus.office (venus.office [10.1.1.11]) by tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h486h1VI054851; Thu, 8 May 2003 08:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.130] (brunner.office [10.1.1.130]) by venus.office (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id DE41DA3047; Thu, 8 May 2003 08:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:40:34 +0200 From: Marcus Brunner Reply-To: Marcus Brunner To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings Message-ID: <1203931.1052383234@[10.1.1.130]> In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.2 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If next to DSOM I can easily offer rooms here in Heidelberg. Also every other time you like. Marcus -------------------------------------- Dr. Marcus Brunner Network Laboratories NEC Europe Ltd. E-Mail: brunner@ccrle.nec.de WWW: http://www.ccrle.nec.de/ Phone: +49 (0) 6221 905 11 29 Mobile: +49 (0) 163 275 17 43 personal home page: http://www.brubers.org/marcus Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.wrs.com [147.11.1.11]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h47JLobP017468; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:21:51 +0200 Received: from IDLEWYLDE.windriver.com ([147.11.233.24]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12466; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030507151455.046db8e8@mail.windriver.com> X-Sender: mrw@mail.windriver.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:16:51 -0400 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder From: Margaret Wasserman Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings Cc: Network Management Research Group In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Juergen, I would attend a meeting next to the IETF in Vienna, if it is planned soon. I would prefer to meet after the IETF meeting, rather than before, because I am always very busy before the IETF meetings. I probably won't be able to attend other meetings in Europe unless they happen to align with Wind River activities, because of travel budget. Margaret At 03:25 PM 5/7/2003 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to >hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. >I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > >- what specific topics do you suggest to work on > >- whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil > >Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether >such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > >- next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July > >- next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) > >Please let me know what you think. > >/js > >-- >Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen >Phone: +49 421 200 3587 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany >Fax: +49 421 200 3103 >-- >!! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. >!! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or >adjust >!! your settings, send a mail message to >!! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. Received: from ctron-dnm.enterasys.com ([12.25.1.120]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h47H5YYH026969; Wed, 7 May 2003 19:05:34 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ctron-dnm.enterasys.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA28806; Wed, 7 May 2003 11:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(134.141.79.124) by ctron-dnm.enterasys.com via smap (4.1) id xma028715; Wed, 7 May 03 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from NHROCCNC2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.122]) by NHROCAVG2.ets.enterasys.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite for SMTP; Wed, 07 May 2003 11:31:34 -0400 Received: from nhrocmbx1.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.104]) by NHROCCNC2.ets.enterasys.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Wed, 7 May 2003 11:31:33 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [nmrg] future meetings Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:31:33 -0400 Message-ID: <6D745637A7E0F94DA070743C55CDA9BA88CA30@NHROCMBX1.ets.enterasys.com> Thread-Topic: [nmrg] future meetings Thread-Index: AcMUnHpYXdD307OUQt+aRVo9VPTbmQAEO36Q From: "Harrington, David" To: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" , "Network Management Research Group" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2003 15:31:33.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD5D6C60:01C314AD] X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de id h47H5YYH026969 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I didn't plan to attend LANOMS, and so far have no plans for DSOM, and I don't know if I can get sponsorship to do either of these. Next to IETF is always better for me. Let me know if this is a real possibility; I've already booked my flights and hotel and didn't plan on an NMRG meeting. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:26 AM > To: Network Management Research Group > Subject: [nmrg] future meetings > > > > We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to > hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. > I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > > - what specific topics do you suggest to work on > > - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil > > Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether > such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > > - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July > > - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) > > Please let me know what you think. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 > Bremen, Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To > unsubscribe or adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > > !! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > Received: from atlanta.postech.ac.kr (atlanta.postech.ac.kr [141.223.82.74]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h47DrsYH024448; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:53:55 +0200 Received: (from jwkhong@localhost) by atlanta.postech.ac.kr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id WAA20624; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:57:11 +0900 (KST) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:57:11 +0900 From: "Prof. J. Won-Ki Hong" To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: Network Management Research Group , ejiri@jp.fujitsu.com Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings Message-ID: <20030507225711.A20588@atlanta.postech.ac.kr> References: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; from schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de on Wed, May 07, 2003 at 03:25:48PM +0200 X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.4 () IN_REP_TO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Another possibility is to have a meeting next to APNOMS 2003 (www.apnoms.org/2003) which will be held in Fukuoka, Japan, Oct. 1-3, 2003. Cheers! James On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to > hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. > I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: > > - what specific topics do you suggest to work on > > - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil > > Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether > such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: > > - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July > > - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) > > Please let me know what you think. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > !! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Won-Ki Hong, Associate Professor Dept. of Computer Science & Engineering POSTECH, Pohang Korea 790-784 Tel: +82-54-279-2244 Fax: +82-54-279-5663 Mobile: +82-11-810-5641 Email: jwkhong@postech.ac.kr http://dpnm.postech.ac.kr/~jwkhong/ KNOM Chair: http://www.knom.or.kr NOMS 2004: http://www.noms2004.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.34.81]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h47DPmYI019460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200 Received: from hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) with ESMTP id h47DPmxm001671; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200 Received: (from schoenw@localhost) by hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.3) id h47DPmsg001668; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200 Message-Id: <200305071325.h47DPmsg001668@hansa.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Network Management Research Group X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Subject: [nmrg] future meetings Sender: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Errors-To: nmrg-admin@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary to hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls. I would like to collect feedback from you, especially: - what specific topics do you suggest to work on - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are: - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen) Please let me know what you think. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen Phone: +49 421 200 3587 P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103