Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5N9pCQc022706 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:12 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3DF39A60 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13758-03 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.50.250.214]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE36839A5F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8D34C34CE4D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:38:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:38:40 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20050623093840.GA1368@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -1.524 () BAYES_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [nmrg] voip nmrg meeting draft call for participation X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:51:13 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dear all, attached is a draft call for participation which I intend to distribute via the IRTF announce list in order to make some more people aware of the workshop. Please have a look at it (and also on the web page which I am now updating). I plan to distribute the call for participation during the weekend so please respond quickly. Thanks, /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VoIP-cfp.txt" Management of VoIP Workshop of the NMRG Call for Participation Nancy (France) on July 30-31 2005 (Saturday/Sunday before the 63. IETF in Paris) The 18th meeting of the Network Management Research Group (NMRG) of the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) will focus on management aspects of Voice over IP (VoIP) networks. The goal of the workshop is to survey ongoing activities related to the management of VoIP networks, to discuss how they relate to each other and how they fit into a common picture, and to identify areas where research or standardization work is needed. Discussions on the NMRG mailing list resulted in the following list of topics important to the management and operation of VoIP networks: * call quality monitoring (loss, latency, jitter) * reliability (standby configurations, fast fail-overs) * emergency service capabilities * expected call quality and maximum call volume prediction * diagnosis of VoIP problems * security and VoIP abuse prevention * gateway utilization monitoring * device provisioning models (using web services-like interfaces) * device management behind NATs and firewalls * mechanisms to secure software downloads to terminals The workshop format will be short prepared presentations (15-20 minutes) followed by extensive discussion. The presentations will introduce and survey technologies which are under development and which focus on one of the VoIP management topics listed above. In addition to technology presentations, presentations by VoIP network operators are especially welcome in order to contrast technology aspects with operational experiences and requirements. Minutes will be taken during the workshop. Some authors/editors will be selected who volunteer to work towards an RFC or some other suitable publication after the workshop which summarizes the state of the art and any insights gained during the workshop. All interested parties are invited to join the workshop. However, the number of attendees will be limited due to the limited space available and to achieve a productive workshop atmosphere. In case of over subscription, preference will be given to people who are willing to prepare a presentation and to lead a discussion. The list of accepted presentations will be posted on the NMRG meeting web page which will be updated regularly and also contains information about the logistics. http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/nmrg/meetings/2005/nancy/ Please contact the meeting chair Juergen Schoenwaelder if you plan to join the meeting with a short description how you plan to contribute to a successful workshop. Looking forward to meet you in France! -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- Received: from boskop.local (Ibbd2.i.pppool.de [85.73.187.210]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5MFS1Qc019419 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:28:02 +0200 Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id BFC2534882B; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:46:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:46:42 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Subject: Re: [nmrg] voip management meeting Message-ID: <20050622114642.GA933@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , Olivier Festor , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.9 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Cc: Olivier Festor , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:28:03 -0000 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 04:40:03PM +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Olivier, Juergen, > > Can you confirm that this meeting is still on track. I need to finalize > travel arrangements before prices skyrocket. Any details concerning the > agenda? The workshop is going to take place as documented on the web page . I will spend some more time this week on getting an agenda going and perhaps inviting some additional people. I would like to have several short prepared presentations (say 20 minutes) which present different viewpoints on the overall VoIP management problem space followed by disucssions. If successful, we would be able to produce a landscape of what "VoIP management" actually means, which activities are underway, where standardization might be needed or where new approaches should be researched. Dan, you would be the ideal candidate to talk about the RAQMON work that you have been involved in. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5LDeNQd007440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:40:24 +0200 Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j5LDSOAK012344 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j5LDSBAK011927 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:28:14 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C57666.BA2D220A" Subject: RE: [nmrg] voip management meeting Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:40:03 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] voip management meeting Thread-Index: AcUztTXSU/uGToBCTWqQCHsrExtAJBCsURKg From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: "Olivier Festor" , X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0.319 () HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:40:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C57666.BA2D220A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olivier, Juergen, =20 Can you confirm that this meeting is still on track. I need to finalize travel arrangements before prices skyrocket. Any details concerning the agenda?=20 =20 Thanks and Regards, =20 Dan =20 _____ =20 From: Olivier Festor [mailto:Olivier.Festor@loria.fr]=20 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:44 PM To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de Cc: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: Re: [nmrg] voip management meeting =09 =09 Dan & All, =09 If you arrive from abroad, you will land in Roissy - Charle De Gaulle Airport in Paris.=20 From there you can take a suburb train (RER-B) that takes you to "Gare du Nord" Train station (journey ~35 minutes). From "Gare du Nord" you have to go to the "Gare de l'Est" train station. This takes 3 minutes by feet, 10 minutes by metro. Gare de l'Est is the train station which deserves all trains to the east of France. From there, just take a train to Nancy (2h40 minutes). I'll provide you with maps and other meeting details on Juergens Web page in 7 days from now (I will travel again next week). =09 If you land in Orly which is unusual except if you come from soemwhere else in France, things are a bit more complicated (i.e. you have to cross Paris since Orly is in the south and Gare de L'est in the North/Est). I'll put the metro data in the web for this. =09 Concerning hotel reservations, there is absolutely no problem on july 30 August 1st. If I know the number of participants and the arrival+departure dates, INRIA can make the reservation for the participants. Usually hotel rooms are between 45 - 65 Euros / night in Nancy. I'll provide links as well on the web page next week. =09 /Olivier =09 Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:=20 On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:30:23AM +0200, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: =09 =20 I plan to attend. Will there be hotel arrangements, or at least=20 recommendations for Nancy? Also, some directions about how to get=20 there (what train lines, connections form the two principal=20 airports in Paris, etc.) would be welcome.=20 =20 =09 I am sure Olivier will provide this information after the easter break and I will assemble this on the meeting web page.=20 =09 /js =09 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C57666.BA2D220A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Olivier, Juergen,
 
Can you confirm that this meeting is still on track. I need to = finalize=20 travel arrangements before prices skyrocket. Any details concerning the = agenda?=20
 
Thanks and Regards,
 
Dan
 

From: Olivier Festor=20 [mailto:Olivier.Festor@loria.fr]
Sent: Monday, March 28, = 2005 6:44=20 PM
To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de
Cc: Romascanu, = Dan=20 (Dan); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
Subject: Re: [nmrg] voip = management=20 meeting

Dan & All,

If you arrive from abroad, you will = land in=20 Roissy - Charle De Gaulle Airport in Paris.
From there you can = take a=20 suburb train (RER-B) that takes you to "Gare du Nord" Train station = (journey=20 ~35 minutes). From "Gare du Nord" you have to go to the "Gare de = l'Est" train=20 station. This takes 3 minutes by feet, 10 minutes by metro. Gare de = l'Est is=20 the train station which deserves all trains to the east of France. = >From there,=20 just take a train to Nancy (2h40 minutes). I'll provide you with maps = and=20 other meeting details on Juergens Web page in 7 days from now (I will = travel=20 again next week).

If you land in Orly which is unusual except = if you=20 come from soemwhere else in France, things are a bit more complicated = (i.e.=20 you have to cross Paris since Orly is in the south and Gare de L'est = in the=20 North/Est). I'll put the metro data in the web for = this.

Concerning=20 hotel reservations, there is absolutely no problem on july 30 August = 1st. If I=20 know the number of participants and the arrival+departure dates, INRIA = can=20 make the reservation  for the participants. Usually hotel rooms = are=20 between 45 - 65 Euros / night in Nancy. I'll provide links as well on = the web=20 page next week.

/Olivier

Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:=20 
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:30:23AM +0200, =
Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:

  
I plan to attend. Will =
there be hotel arrangements, or at least=20
recommendations for Nancy? Also, some directions about how to get=20
there (what train lines, connections form the two principal=20
airports in Paris, etc.) would be welcome.=20
    

I am sure Olivier will provide this information after the easter
break and I will assemble this on the meeting web page.=20

/js
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