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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
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Well, why don't you send us a ptr, maybe there are
people on this list who want to take a look first

Bert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Durham, David [mailto:david.durham@intel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 19:19
> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> 
> There is a document describing MIB transport over COPS. If it 
> were to be
> submitted as a draft, to which wg would it go? Or is informational
> sufficient? 
> 
> Ideally, someone well versed in a variety of usual and unusual MIB
> structures should be willing to review the document. 
> 
> -Dave
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:30 AM
> > To: Durham, David; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of Durham, David
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 18:16
> > > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > >
> > >
> > > There is always COPS-PR :)
> > > ... If only it was standardized to send MIBs instead of the MIB's
> ugly
> > > step-child, the PIB.
> > 
> > And iirc I have asked you (and others) several times if you 
> could not
> > try to write a draft how MIB objects/rows could be transported over
> COPS-
> > PR.
> > Any chance you're ever gonna try?
> > 
> > Bert
> > > -Dave
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> > > > Thirumala
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > > > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > > > > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hai
> > > > >
> > > > > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where
> > > they push
> > > > > performace information at regular intravels with out a
> > > request from
> > > > > manager .this is after manager register with agent for
> performance
> > > > > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > ravinder
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hai
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed
> what
> > > > > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP.
> My
> > > > > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /js
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The MIB Doctors are probably quite accustomed to unusual MIB
structures ;-)
(and no, I'm not volunteering to do this; too much on my plate
already).

David Harrington
dbharrington@comcast.net 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de 
> [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Durham, David
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> There is a document describing MIB transport over COPS. If it 
> were to be
> submitted as a draft, to which wg would it go? Or is informational
> sufficient? 
> 
> Ideally, someone well versed in a variety of usual and unusual MIB
> structures should be willing to review the document. 
> 
> -Dave
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:30 AM
> > To: Durham, David; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of Durham, David
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 18:16
> > > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > >
> > >
> > > There is always COPS-PR :)
> > > ... If only it was standardized to send MIBs instead of the
MIB's
> ugly
> > > step-child, the PIB.
> > 
> > And iirc I have asked you (and others) several times if you 
> could not
> > try to write a draft how MIB objects/rows could be transported
over
> COPS-
> > PR.
> > Any chance you're ever gonna try?
> > 
> > Bert
> > > -Dave
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> > > > Thirumala
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > > > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > > > > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hai
> > > > >
> > > > > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where
> > > they push
> > > > > performace information at regular intravels with out a
> > > request from
> > > > > manager .this is after manager register with agent for
> performance
> > > > > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > ravinder
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder
Thirumala
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hai
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is
needed
> what
> > > > > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of
SNMP.
> My
> > > > > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /js
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There is a document describing MIB transport over COPS. If it were to be
submitted as a draft, to which wg would it go? Or is informational
sufficient? 

Ideally, someone well versed in a variety of usual and unusual MIB
structures should be willing to review the document. 

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: Durham, David; nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of Durham, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 18:16
> > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> >
> >
> > There is always COPS-PR :)
> > ... If only it was standardized to send MIBs instead of the MIB's
ugly
> > step-child, the PIB.
> 
> And iirc I have asked you (and others) several times if you could not
> try to write a draft how MIB objects/rows could be transported over
COPS-
> PR.
> Any chance you're ever gonna try?
> 
> Bert
> > -Dave
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> > > Thirumala
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > > > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hai
> > > >
> > > > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where
> > they push
> > > > performace information at regular intravels with out a
> > request from
> > > > manager .this is after manager register with agent for
performance
> > > > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > ravinder
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hai
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > > > >
> > > > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed
what
> > > > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP.
My
> > > > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > /js
> > > > >
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> [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of Durham, David
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 18:16
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> Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> 
> There is always COPS-PR :)
> ... If only it was standardized to send MIBs instead of the MIB's ugly
> step-child, the PIB.

And iirc I have asked you (and others) several times if you could not
try to write a draft how MIB objects/rows could be transported over COPS-PR.
Any chance you're ever gonna try?

Bert
> -Dave
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> > Thirumala
> > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > >
> > >
> > > hai
> > >
> > > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where 
> they push
> > > performace information at regular intravels with out a 
> request from
> > > manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance
> > > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > ravinder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hai
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > > >
> > > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what
> > > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My
> > > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > > >
> > > > /js
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There is always COPS-PR :)
... If only it was standardized to send MIBs instead of the MIB's ugly
step-child, the PIB.
-Dave

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> Thirumala
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> >
> >
> > hai
> >
> > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push
> > performace information at regular intravels with out a request from
> > manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance
> > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> >
> > thanks
> > ravinder
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hai
> > > >
> > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > >
> > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what
> > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My
> > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > >
> > > /js
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David,

There are two MIB modules in RAQMON. I believe that you are not
referring to the RAQMON MIB module, but rather to the RAQMON-RDS-MIB
module, defined
http://www.ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmonmib-raq
mon-pdu-10.txt. 

Regards,

Dan


 
 

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> [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of David B Harrington
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:16 PM
> To: 'Ravinder Thirumala'; 'Juergen Schoenwaelder'
> Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> Subject: RE: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You might to look at the RAQMON MIB module in the RMON WG. 
> 
> I have seen a leading platform brought to its knees by agents 
> that "pushed" data faster than the application could process.
> 
> SNMP was designed using the trap-directed polling model, 
> rather than the push model. By sending a notification to the 
> manager to say "I have information available", this gives the 
> manager the option of waiting before retrieving the info, or 
> choosing to retrieve only portions of the data at one time. 
> This provides a type of manager-driven flow control, and 
> applications are commonly written to consider this. Of 
> course, it also makes the transaction more complicated for 
> both sides. 
> 
> I think fewer agents are designed to support the push model 
> with some sort of flow control.
> 
> dbh
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
> Thirumala
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> > Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> > 
> > 
> > hai
> > 
> > i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push 
> > performace information at regular intravels with out a request from 
> > manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance 
> > information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents)
> > 
> > thanks
> > ravinder
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > hai
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > > 
> > > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what 
> > > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My 
> > > interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> > > 
> > > /js
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Hi Ravinder,

I am not sure that this is available with all vendors but with Cisco
gear we have the CISCO-BULK-FILE-MIB that will allow you to collect
interface counters and save it a file on the agent. The agent can notify
on completion of collection and you can pull the file using
CISCO-FTP-CLIENT-MIB.

Please look at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/477/SNMP/bulk_file_mib.html

Regards,
  kaushik!



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hai

i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push
performace information at regular intravels with out a request from
manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance
information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents) 

thanks
ravinder



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> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala wrote:
> >  
> > hai
> > 
> > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> 
> To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what 
> precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My 
> interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> 
> /js
> 
> 
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Hi,

You might to look at the RAQMON MIB module in the RMON WG. 

I have seen a leading platform brought to its knees by agents that
"pushed" data faster than the application could process.

SNMP was designed using the trap-directed polling model, rather than
the push model. By sending a notification to the manager to say "I
have information available", this gives the manager the option of
waiting before retrieving the info, or choosing to retrieve only
portions of the data at one time. This provides a type of
manager-driven flow control, and applications are commonly written to
consider this. Of course, it also makes the transaction more
complicated for both sides. 

I think fewer agents are designed to support the push model with some
sort of flow control.

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de 
> [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Ravinder
Thirumala
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:50 PM
> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
> Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> Subject: Re: [nmrg] push model for snmp
> 
> 
> hai
> 
> i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push
> performace information at regular intravels with out a request from 
> manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance 
> information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents) 
> 
> thanks
> ravinder
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala
wrote:
> > >  
> > > hai
> > > 
> > > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> > 
> > To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what
> > precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My
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> > 
> > /js
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>>>>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:20:01 +0530 (IST), Ravinder Thirumala <ravinder@nmsworks.co.in> said:

Ravinder> i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push
Ravinder> performace information at regular intravels with out a request from 
Ravinder> manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance 
Ravinder> information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents) 

Take a look at draft-glenn-mo-aggr-mib-06.txt which has some of what
you're looking for in it.  Unfortunately, the forward path for it was
through the EOS WG which has long since closed.  I still thought it
was useful though.

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>>>>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:04:17 +0530 (IST), Ravinder Thirumala <ravinder@nmsworks.co.in> said:

Ravinder> Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent

The DISMAN-EVENT-MIB sort of implements a push model.  Is this what
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hai

i mean, are there any snmp agents which are in use, where they push
performace information at regular intravels with out a request from 
manager .this is after manager register with agent for performance 
information.(may be like inoctents and outoctents) 

thanks
ravinder



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> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala wrote:
> >  
> > hai
> > 
> > Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent
> 
> To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what
> precisely you mean with "push model" in the context of SNMP. My
> interpretation of this phrase might not be yours.
> 
> /js
> 
> 


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On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:04:17PM +0530, Ravinder Thirumala wrote:
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> Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent

To answer your question, I think some more detail is needed what
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> SIP-enabled VoIP FCAPS Data or Information Model

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For those who are interested in SNMP traversing firewalls, and enjoyed
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Still on my planning.

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Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> : 5) Management implications of VoIP business models. Initiative taken
> :    by Aiko.
> 
> It would be nice if people can report what has been done so far or
> what the plans are to get things moving forward.

Still on my planning.

Aiko


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Dear all,

I hope you all enjoyed the summer (a great time for academics to write
papers and research proposals ;-). I like to followup on our meeting
we had in Nancy before the summer IETF. Looking at the minutes again,
I read the following:

: How to proceed with respect to the various proposals:
: 
: 1) Juergen does not yet sufficiently understand this idea, and asked
:    Michael to create a document that explains this idea a bit better
:    and provides examples. Initiative taken by Michael, Dan is also
:    interested.
: 
: 2) VoIP metric framework could be an article for IEEE Communications
:    Magazine or IEEE Surveys and Tutorials). Initiative taken by Amy,
:    Dan and others.
: 
: 3) Fault incident report. Initiative taken by Henning.
: 
: 4) Fault isolation / Diagnostic procedures. Initiative taken by Henning.
: 
: 5) Management implications of VoIP business models. Initiative taken
:    by Aiko.

It would be nice if people can report what has been done so far or
what the plans are to get things moving forward.

Thanks,

/js

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hai

Is there any push model implemented with SNMP agent

thanks
ravinder