Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jAH4i3kI013035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:44:04 +0100 Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAH4TkPJ022979 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAH4ThPJ022936 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:29:45 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:43:56 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting Thread-Index: AcXrCT6LoghvyZPjQFqQwaDympxAbgAJ9guA From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" To: , "David B Harrington" X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -0.001 () BAYES_40 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de id jAH4i3kI013035 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:44:06 -0000 I would add my request on this respect. As things look now I need to be in the US during at the time of the NMRG meeting due to previous commitments, but jabber would allow to attend remotely part of the time, and streaming would help me fill in the part of the missing. Thanks and Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:21 PM > To: David B Harrington > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 08:00:32AM -0500, David B Harrington wrote: > > > For those of us who may not be able to make it, capturing > the meeting > > in MP3 format would be a great way for us to stay up-to-date on the > > discussions, and the proposed jabber room would be helpful > to let us > > participate remotely. > > I already got other requests to provide an audio stream and a > jabber room. I think each RG has a jabber room which we can > use so it boils down to having audio support. I will check > with the hosts whether they can take up that challenge. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > P.O. Box 750 561, > 28725 Bremen, Germany > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To > unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message > to !! or look at > http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jAGFLI6H012460 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:19 +0100 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A29B4C239; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08556-03; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.50.250.214]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB8F4C237; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B2B3652B3D7; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:21:13 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: David B Harrington Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting Message-ID: <20051116152113.GA9746@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: David B Harrington , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <20051116075548.GD8564@boskop.local> <013201c5eaad$bb22a9a0$0300a8c0@DJYXPY41> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013201c5eaad$bb22a9a0$0300a8c0@DJYXPY41> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.9 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:21:20 -0000 On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 08:00:32AM -0500, David B Harrington wrote: > For those of us who may not be able to make it, capturing the meeting > in MP3 format would be a great way for us to stay up-to-date on the > discussions, and the proposed jabber room would be helpful to let us > participate remotely. I already got other requests to provide an audio stream and a jabber room. I think each RG has a jabber room which we can use so it boils down to having audio support. I will check with the hosts whether they can take up that challenge. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.77.82] (may be forged)) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jAGD0e6H001876 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:00:41 +0100 Received: from djyxpy41 (c-24-62-247-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net[24.62.247.149]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005111613003901200254a0e>; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:00:39 +0000 From: "David B Harrington" To: , Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:00:32 -0500 Message-ID: <013201c5eaad$bb22a9a0$0300a8c0@DJYXPY41> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20051116075548.GD8564@boskop.local> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXqgy5mumsn1dyXSnuCfcFslrSIJwAKjZZg X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -0.001 () BAYES_40 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Cc: X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: dbharrington@comcast.net List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:00:42 -0000 Hi Juergen, I am unsure at this point if I can attend, but will try to make it. For those of us who may not be able to make it, capturing the meeting in MP3 format would be a great way for us to stay up-to-date on the discussions, and the proposed jabber room would be helpful to let us participate remotely. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:56 AM > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting > > On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 07:32:31AM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > I am working on the organization of the next NMRG meeting > and I would > > like to get your feedback. The proposal under discussion is > to have a > > meeting in early 2006 in Sweden or Norway (hosted either by the KTH > > Stockholm or the University College Oslo). The idea is to spend two > > days on the following topics: > > > > a) Promise Theory > > > > Mark Burgess has presented a paper at DSOM 2005 which > introduces a > > model where boxes cooperate based on promises they make. In other > > words, boxes are highly autonomous in their decisions but they > > might promise a certain behavior to others and take > benefits of the > > promises made by other nodes. This model leads to a totally > > different view at policies. For the details, see Mark's DSOM 2005 > > paper. > > > > [Mark, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > > > b) Distributed and P2P Management > > > > Rolf Stadler has done quite some work on highly distributed, P2P > > approaches to network management. The idea is to explore > this area > > further, to investigate whether there are any network management > > specific building blocks that are missing or how such approaches > > related to conventional approaches and what the pros and > cons are. > > > > [Rolf, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > > > One option under discussion is to hold this workshop on > January 11-13 > > in Stockholm, Sweden. This meeting date and location has not been > > finalized yet - so you are invited to provide feedback whether you > > would be able to attend, whether another date would be > preferable for > > you, or whether you have any other constructive suggestions for this > > meeting. > > I have received some limited feedback so far. Since we have to move > forward with the planning, I would very much appreciate to receive > more input whether you are interested, joining, unable to join etc. > > Thanks, > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > P.O. Box 750 561, > 28725 Bremen, Germany > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To > unsubscribe or adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > > !! or look at > http://agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jAG7tq6H001826 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1B39EA2 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24424-07; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.50.250.214]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154AE4BEA7; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 14AEE52AE9C; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:55:48 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20051116075548.GD8564@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <20051109063231.GA4562@boskop.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051109063231.GA4562@boskop.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.9 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [nmrg] Re: plans for the next nmrg meeting X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:55:53 -0000 On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 07:32:31AM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > I am working on the organization of the next NMRG meeting and I would > like to get your feedback. The proposal under discussion is to have a > meeting in early 2006 in Sweden or Norway (hosted either by the KTH > Stockholm or the University College Oslo). The idea is to spend two > days on the following topics: > > a) Promise Theory > > Mark Burgess has presented a paper at DSOM 2005 which introduces a > model where boxes cooperate based on promises they make. In other > words, boxes are highly autonomous in their decisions but they > might promise a certain behavior to others and take benefits of the > promises made by other nodes. This model leads to a totally > different view at policies. For the details, see Mark's DSOM 2005 > paper. > > [Mark, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > b) Distributed and P2P Management > > Rolf Stadler has done quite some work on highly distributed, P2P > approaches to network management. The idea is to explore this area > further, to investigate whether there are any network management > specific building blocks that are missing or how such approaches > related to conventional approaches and what the pros and cons are. > > [Rolf, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > One option under discussion is to hold this workshop on January 11-13 > in Stockholm, Sweden. This meeting date and location has not been > finalized yet - so you are invited to provide feedback whether you > would be able to attend, whether another date would be preferable for > you, or whether you have any other constructive suggestions for this > meeting. I have received some limited feedback so far. Since we have to move forward with the planning, I would very much appreciate to receive more input whether you are interested, joining, unable to join etc. Thanks, /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jABM2QGC017144 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2005 14:02:25 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,119,1131350400"; d="scan'208"; a="229493271:sNHT36295528" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jABM1obA025622; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-236.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.121]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:21 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:20 -0800 Message-ID: <85B2F271FDF6B949B3672BA5A7BB62FBDCA125@xmb-sjc-236.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting Thread-Index: AcXk94hrWztmTmo5QT+EaY0FqBD82wCE+gsg From: "Alexander Clemm \(alex\)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2005 22:02:21.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[9703C3B0:01C5E70B] X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -0.001 () BAYES_44 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de id jABM2QGC017144 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:13:59 +0100 Cc: X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:02:28 -0000 I consider participating but this week doesn't work for me. Later in January would be better. --- Alex -----Original Message----- From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:33 PM To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting Dear all, I am working on the organization of the next NMRG meeting and I would like to get your feedback. The proposal under discussion is to have a meeting in early 2006 in Sweden or Norway (hosted either by the KTH Stockholm or the University College Oslo). The idea is to spend two days on the following topics: a) Promise Theory Mark Burgess has presented a paper at DSOM 2005 which introduces a model where boxes cooperate based on promises they make. In other words, boxes are highly autonomous in their decisions but they might promise a certain behavior to others and take benefits of the promises made by other nodes. This model leads to a totally different view at policies. For the details, see Mark's DSOM 2005 paper. [Mark, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] b) Distributed and P2P Management Rolf Stadler has done quite some work on highly distributed, P2P approaches to network management. The idea is to explore this area further, to investigate whether there are any network management specific building blocks that are missing or how such approaches related to conventional approaches and what the pros and cons are. [Rolf, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] One option under discussion is to hold this workshop on January 11-13 in Stockholm, Sweden. This meeting date and location has not been finalized yet - so you are invited to provide feedback whether you would be able to attend, whether another date would be preferable for you, or whether you have any other constructive suggestions for this meeting. Please comment. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany -- !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to !! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [192.11.222.163]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jABFq0g5004886 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:52:01 +0100 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jABFpusd012792; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:51:58 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155088C7BA5@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: RE: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:51:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Cc: X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:52:02 -0000 I would like to participate and Jan 11-13 works for me. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 07:33 > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting > > > Dear all, > > I am working on the organization of the next NMRG meeting and I would > like to get your feedback. The proposal under discussion is to have a > meeting in early 2006 in Sweden or Norway (hosted either by the KTH > Stockholm or the University College Oslo). The idea is to spend two > days on the following topics: > > a) Promise Theory > > Mark Burgess has presented a paper at DSOM 2005 which introduces a > model where boxes cooperate based on promises they make. In other > words, boxes are highly autonomous in their decisions but they > might promise a certain behavior to others and take benefits of the > promises made by other nodes. This model leads to a totally > different view at policies. For the details, see Mark's DSOM 2005 > paper. > > [Mark, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > b) Distributed and P2P Management > > Rolf Stadler has done quite some work on highly distributed, P2P > approaches to network management. The idea is to explore this area > further, to investigate whether there are any network management > specific building blocks that are missing or how such approaches > related to conventional approaches and what the pros and cons are. > > [Rolf, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] > > One option under discussion is to hold this workshop on January 11-13 > in Stockholm, Sweden. This meeting date and location has not been > finalized yet - so you are invited to provide feedback whether you > would be able to attend, whether another date would be preferable for > you, or whether you have any other constructive suggestions for this > meeting. > > Please comment. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen > P.O. Box 750 561, > 28725 Bremen, Germany > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To > unsubscribe or adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > > !! or look at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jA96WZg5002536 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813F74BF4F for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15991-10; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from boskop.local (unknown [10.222.1.1]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38724BF4B; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3DDE152728D; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:32:31 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20051109063231.GA4562@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -4.9 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [nmrg] plans for the next nmrg meeting X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:32:36 -0000 Dear all, I am working on the organization of the next NMRG meeting and I would like to get your feedback. The proposal under discussion is to have a meeting in early 2006 in Sweden or Norway (hosted either by the KTH Stockholm or the University College Oslo). The idea is to spend two days on the following topics: a) Promise Theory Mark Burgess has presented a paper at DSOM 2005 which introduces a model where boxes cooperate based on promises they make. In other words, boxes are highly autonomous in their decisions but they might promise a certain behavior to others and take benefits of the promises made by other nodes. This model leads to a totally different view at policies. For the details, see Mark's DSOM 2005 paper. [Mark, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] b) Distributed and P2P Management Rolf Stadler has done quite some work on highly distributed, P2P approaches to network management. The idea is to explore this area further, to investigate whether there are any network management specific building blocks that are missing or how such approaches related to conventional approaches and what the pros and cons are. [Rolf, feel free to correct me if this is not a fair summary.] One option under discussion is to hold this workshop on January 11-13 in Stockholm, Sweden. This meeting date and location has not been finalized yet - so you are invited to provide feedback whether you would be able to attend, whether another date would be preferable for you, or whether you have any other constructive suggestions for this meeting. Please comment. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder International University Bremen P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by agitator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id jA70TYoY015877 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:34 +0100 Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5E4C153 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23344-02 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pp111-212.bctel.ca (unknown [10.222.1.1]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EC04C067 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by pp111-212.bctel.ca (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2067B522CCE; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:30 +0100 (CET) Resent-From: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:29:30 +0100 Resent-Message-ID: <20051107002930.GA5123@pp111-212.bctel.ca> Resent-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Received: from merkur.iu-bremen.de ([unix socket]) by merkur (Cyrus v2.2.12) with LMTPA; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:12:52 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de (hermes.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.23]) by merkur.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DF079EAA3A1 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (demetrius.iu-bremen.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A484BDE6 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.iu-bremen.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02978-07 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:51 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: delayed 1098 seconds by postgrey-1.22rc1 at hermes; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:12:49 CET Received: from boskop.local (pp111-212.bctel.ca [209.52.111.212]) by hermes.iu-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746914BDD1 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by boskop.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id BE6C0522B1E; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:12:46 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20051106201246.GA4746@boskop.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 tagged_above=-30.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new 20030616p5 at demetrius.iu-bremen.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -0.904 () BAYES_30 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [nmrg] [falk@ISI.EDU: [IRSG] jabber rooms for RGs] X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:29:35 -0000 Hi, the NMRG has now a jabber room (see note below). I like to make use of it during forthcoming meetings. More about the plans soon here. /js ----- Forwarded message from Aaron Falk ----- Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:24:59 -0800 From: Aaron Falk To: Internet Research Steering Group Subject: [IRSG] jabber rooms for RGs Precedence: list Errors-To: irsg-bounces@mailman.isi.edu Peter Saint-Andre has kindly created a set of logged jabber rooms for RGs to use. Information is available at . This is a parallel site to the one for the IETF at . --aaron _______________________________________________ IRSG mailing list IRSG@mailman.isi.edu http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/irsg ----- End forwarded message -----