From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Mon May 2 02:16:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6DCE0655 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.038 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.038 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.961, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4dMBsp-B6gHH for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A3CE062A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p429GfX9032167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:41 +0200 Received: from demuexc023.nsn-intra.net (demuexc023.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.36]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p429Gf1O021139 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:41 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.103]) by demuexc023.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:40 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:39 +0200 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A640202B3A4@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals Thread-Index: AcwGOdaMMEFgptz2Q7GrDHdzH0ZgZACbYeAAAACC+MA= From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2011 09:16:40.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5BB1BE0:01CC08A9] Subject: [nmrg] FW: Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:16:44 -0000 Hi Olivier, same here. I attend IETF meetings regularly but I will not attend IM = conference. I use the same extended topic list as below. My main interest is on a), b) c), d), g). However, concerning c) I have to admit I don't exactly know what "safe" = means. Is 'safe' used in the context of "secure" or "reliable", or both?=20 Cheers,=20 Mehmet=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf = Of > ext Benoit Claise > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:47 AM > To: Aiko Pras > Cc: nmrg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [nmrg] Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals >=20 > Hi Olivier, >=20 > I will attend the IETF, but not IM. >=20 > Using Dan's / Juergen's list: > a) Management of the Internet of Things > b) Autonomics management / network learning > c) Network-wide safe configuration > d) Energy monitoring and management > e) Network flow measurement and analysis > f) Large-scale network-wide measurements > g) Management of virtual machines and clouds >=20 > My interest is primarily in b), c), d), e), f) > Note that e) was done in Maastricht, so not sure it worth repeating so > closely ... >=20 > Regards, Benoit. >=20 > > Hi Olivier > > > > I will attend IM; I will not attend the next IETF. > > For IM I will arrive sunday evening, and return Friday morning. As > Juergen already mentioned, for many people the agenda may already = quite > full. For me, only monday may work for the NMRG. > > > > My interest is primarily in: > > - Autonomics management / network learning > > - Monitoring and measurment > > > > Using Dan's / Juergen's list: > > a) Management of the Internet of Things > > b) Autonomics management / network learning > > c) Network-wide safe configuration > > d) Energy monitoring and management > > e) Network flow measurement and analysis > > f) Large-scale network-wide measurements > > g) Management of virtual machines and clouds > > > > My interest is primarily in b) and f), although some of the other > topics are interesting as well! > > > > Bye > > > > Aiko > > On 27 apr 2011, at 14:29, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:07:59AM +0200, Olivier Festor wrote: > >>> Dear NMRG'er > >>> > >>> First let's welcome you on the new MNRG list which was moved to = the > irtf.org domain. > >>> We have two opportunities to organize NMRG meetings in the = upcoming > months : one at the IFIP/IEEE IM event in Dublin (23 to 27 of May, > 2011) and one at the next IETF in Qu=E9bec (IETF 81, July 24-29, = 2011). > >>> > >>> Regarding the management topics that are relevant to be addressed > in these meetings are : > >>> > >>> > >>> - Management of Low power lossy networks > >>> - Autonomics management / network learning > >>> - Network level safe configuration > >>> - Monitoring and measurment > >>> > >>> To build a possible topic centered agenda for the meetings, we ask > you if (1) you are interested in participating in initiatives on one = of > the above listed topics, (2) If yes, if you are willing to present = your > work or share your ideas on the subject as part of a presentation in > either Dublin or Qu=E9bec and (3) if you will attend IM and/or IETF = 81. > Feel free to put additional topics in the area of Internet management > that you believe are important to be covered by the NMRG. > >> I am planning to attend IM 2011 and IETF 81. Since IM 2011 is = rather > >> close and most people have already fixed travel schedules, it might > be > >> difficult to organize an NMRG meeting with sufficient time for > >> technical discussion. > >> > >> Concerning the topics, it perhaps makes sense to formulate = questions > >> for each item in the list so that it becomes more clear what the > scope > >> is. Perhaps it makes sense to split the last item into two items > with > >> a more restricted scope: > >> > >> - Energy monitoring and management > >> - Network flow measurement and analysis > >> > >> And perhaps the first item should be broadened to: > >> > >> - Management of the Internet of Things > >> > >> One could also add initiatives that aim at: > >> > >> - Large-scale network-wide measurements > >> > >> Adding Dan's suggestion, I have: > >> > >> a) Management of the Internet of Things > >> b) Autonomics management / network learning > >> c) Network-wide safe configuration > >> d) Energy monitoring and management > >> e) Network flow measurement and analysis > >> f) Large-scale network-wide measurements > >> g) Management of virtual machines and clouds > >> > >> My interest is primarily in a), d), e), and f). > >> > >> /js > >> > >> -- > >> Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > >> Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, = Germany > >> Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nmrg mailing list > >> nmrg@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > > _______________________________________________ > > nmrg mailing list > > nmrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg From dromasca@avaya.com Mon May 2 04:44:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0101E0684 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.161 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.161 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.438, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E9l2OPdNu1JY for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D40E0593 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 04:43:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlABAHCXvk2HCzI1/2dsb2JhbACYFI4Id4hxngACmR6GAASTL4lu X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,302,1301889600"; d="scan'208";a="244419604" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 May 2011 07:43:58 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,302,1301889600"; d="scan'208";a="645969664" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 May 2011 07:43:57 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:43:56 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A640202B3A4@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [nmrg] FW: Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals Thread-Index: AcwGOdaMMEFgptz2Q7GrDHdzH0ZgZACbYeAAAACC+MAABStowA== References: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A640202B3A4@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" , Subject: Re: [nmrg] FW: Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:44:00 -0000 I had a similar un-clarity, asked and never saw a response :-) Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On=20 > However, concerning c) I have to admit I don't exactly know=20 > what "safe" means. > Is 'safe' used in the context of "secure" or "reliable", or both?=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Mehmet=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org]=20 > On Behalf=20 > > Of ext Benoit Claise > > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:47 AM > > To: Aiko Pras > > Cc: nmrg@irtf.org > > Subject: Re: [nmrg] Upcoming NMRG Meetings & Actions Proposals > >=20 > > Hi Olivier, > >=20 > > I will attend the IETF, but not IM. > >=20 > > Using Dan's / Juergen's list: > > a) Management of the Internet of Things > > b) Autonomics management / network learning > > c) Network-wide safe configuration > > d) Energy monitoring and management > > e) Network flow measurement and analysis > > f) Large-scale network-wide measurements > > g) Management of virtual machines and clouds