Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Delivered-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by salvator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029B5141F7 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.47]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3685C000C; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGsSt0kTbwRN; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEA8C000B; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4B23C159A0ED; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 02:50:27 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20101109015027.GA55296@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, irtf-chair@irtf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at salvator X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_SUBJECT, NO_RECEIVED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on salvator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Cc: irtf-chair@irtf.org Subject: [nmrg] future of the nmrg - call for co-chairs X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:50:38 -0000 Hi, Back at the Philadelphia NMRG meeting (March 2008), I announced that I like to step down as NMRG chair and that I am looking for volunteers to take over responsibility for the NMRG by becoming co-chairs. Since then, it has been relatively quiet on the NMRG list, even though we had two interesting NetFlow/IPFIX related meetings in October 2008 and in July 2010. So here is second attempt to find people who are interested in taking over some responsibility for the NMRG. Please consider volunteering if you believe the NMRG has been a valuable resource in the past for you. I am more than happy to provide guidance during the transition phase in case someone feels not too familiar with IETF/IRTF procedures etc. If you want to volunteer - or you happen to know good candidates, you can either contact me or directly the IRTF chair, Aaron Falk, who can be reached at . /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From Olivier.Festor@inria.fr Thu Nov 10 02:10:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6172221F8B1C for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B4tQZ2W+dhvL for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5C821F8AD6 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,488,1315173600"; d="scan'208";a="129590237" Received: from eduroam-64-68.loria.fr ([152.81.64.68]) by mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 10 Nov 2011 11:10:39 +0100 From: Olivier Festor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:10:39 +0100 Message-Id: To: nmrg@irtf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIX in Network Management - Call for Presentation X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:10:42 -0000 [Apologies for possibly receiving multiple copies of this mail] Call for Presentations 4th Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIX in Network Management (27th NMRG meeting) March 26, 2012, Paris, France (Monday, second day of the 83rd IETF meeting in Paris) Flow-based approaches are used in various areas of network management today, such as link monitoring, accounting, and security. As in the previous years, the goal of this workshop is to be a place where researchers, operators and manufacturers can exchange and discuss their experiences and ideas in the usage of Netflow/IPFIX in network management. Topics of interest are new applications of flows in the above mentioned and other areas, practical experiences, recent developments, as well as related topics such as: - flow processing and storage techniques - learning and classification techniques - visualization of flow data - software projects and tools We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to exchange and discuss their experiences and ideas. Presentations typically last around 20 minutes, and are followed by discussion rounds. To propose a presentation, please send a short abstract (15 lines) to Ramin Sadre, r.sadre@utwente.nl University of Twente before January 25th, 2012. You might also be interested to take a look at the program and minutes of the third workshop with 45 participants at the 78th IETF meeting in 2010: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/NMRG.txt http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/NMRG.html On behalf of the workshop chairs /Olivier Festor From dbharrington@comcast.net Sun Nov 13 18:07:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B2311E810F for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:07:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jpYqUWEzclY3 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079A411E808E for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wptG1h0041wfjNsA8q7mdw; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:07:46 +0000 Received: from davidPC ([130.129.19.147]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wq471h00v3APkkq8jq4Bfg; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:04:23 +0000 From: "David B Harrington" To: "'Olivier Festor'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:07:30 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyfkQRp0qjivil1SxKcZnM6YN8k6QCJY8Gw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Subject: Re: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:07:58 -0000 Hi, are you really scheduling this to run against the IETF schedule??? that seems a bad idea. The IETF does not schedule to avoid conflicts with NMRG, so we could end up with the ipfix WG scheduled on the same day as your workshop. I recommend scheduling this for the weekend preceding or following IETF, not during IETF week. Sunday is a bad day because IESG and IAB have meetings most of the Sunday preceding IETF. Friday afternoon has been successful in the past, but the IESG and IAB now meet Friday afternoons, and there are quite a few ipfix-interested people nominated for IESG and IAB positions, so this would probably not be a good idea. (nominees include Dan Romascanu, Juergen Schoenwaelder, Benoit Claise, dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On > Behalf Of Olivier Festor > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:11 PM > To: nmrg@irtf.org > Subject: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of > Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation > > [Apologies for possibly receiving multiple copies of this mail] > > Call for Presentations > 4th Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIX in Network Management > (27th NMRG meeting) > March 26, 2012, Paris, France > (Monday, second day of the 83rd IETF meeting in Paris) > > Flow-based approaches are used in various areas of network > management today, > such as link monitoring, accounting, and security. As in the > previous years, > the goal of this workshop is to be a place where researchers, > operators and > manufacturers can exchange and discuss their experiences and > ideas in the > usage of Netflow/IPFIX in network management. > Topics of interest are new applications of flows in the above > mentioned and > other areas, practical experiences, recent developments, as > well as related > topics such as: > - flow processing and storage techniques > - learning and classification techniques > - visualization of flow data > - software projects and tools > > We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to > exchange and discuss > their experiences and ideas. Presentations typically last > around 20 minutes, > and are followed by discussion rounds. > To propose a presentation, please send a short abstract (15 lines) to > Ramin Sadre, r.sadre@utwente.nl > University of Twente > before > January 25th, 2012. > > You might also be interested to take a look at the program > and minutes of > the third workshop with 45 participants at the 78th IETF > meeting in 2010: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/NMRG.txt > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/NMRG.html > > On behalf of the workshop chairs > /Olivier Festor > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > From olivier.festor@inria.fr Sun Nov 13 23:05:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2595911E822C for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:05:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.853 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.853 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FaSTFC4dBCrE for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9430E11E8239 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:05:34 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,506,1315173600"; d="scan'208";a="130210457" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.12.69.20]) ([90.84.144.84]) by mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 14 Nov 2011 08:05:32 +0100 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) From: Olivier Festor Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:03:00 +0100 To: David B Harrington Cc: "" Subject: Re: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:05:38 -0000 Sorry we messed up wirh the date.=20 The meeting will be the saturday before 24th or th saturday right after 31st= the IETF.=20 Best regards /Olivier Festor=20 On 14 nov. 2011, at 03:07, "David B Harrington" w= rote: > Hi, >=20 > are you really scheduling this to run against the IETF schedule??? > that seems a bad idea. > The IETF does not schedule to avoid conflicts with NMRG, so we could > end up with the ipfix WG scheduled on the same day as your workshop. >=20 > I recommend scheduling this for the weekend preceding or following > IETF, not during IETF week.=20 > Sunday is a bad day because IESG and IAB have meetings most of the > Sunday preceding IETF. > Friday afternoon has been successful in the past, but the IESG and IAB > now meet Friday afternoons, and there are quite a few ipfix-interested > people nominated for IESG and IAB positions, so this would probably > not be a good idea. (nominees include Dan Romascanu, Juergen > Schoenwaelder, Benoit Claise,=20 >=20 > dbh >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On=20 >> Behalf Of Olivier Festor >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:11 PM >> To: nmrg@irtf.org >> Subject: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of=20 >> Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation >>=20 >> [Apologies for possibly receiving multiple copies of this mail] >>=20 >> Call for Presentations >> 4th Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIX in Network Management >> (27th NMRG meeting) >> March 26, 2012, Paris, France >> (Monday, second day of the 83rd IETF meeting in Paris) >>=20 >> Flow-based approaches are used in various areas of network=20 >> management today, >> such as link monitoring, accounting, and security. As in the=20 >> previous years, >> the goal of this workshop is to be a place where researchers,=20 >> operators and >> manufacturers can exchange and discuss their experiences and=20 >> ideas in the >> usage of Netflow/IPFIX in network management. >> Topics of interest are new applications of flows in the above=20 >> mentioned and >> other areas, practical experiences, recent developments, as=20 >> well as related >> topics such as: >> - flow processing and storage techniques >> - learning and classification techniques >> - visualization of flow data >> - software projects and tools >>=20 >> We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to=20 >> exchange and discuss >> their experiences and ideas. Presentations typically last=20 >> around 20 minutes, >> and are followed by discussion rounds. >> To propose a presentation, please send a short abstract (15 lines) > to >> Ramin Sadre, r.sadre@utwente.nl >> University of Twente >> before >> January 25th, 2012. >>=20 >> You might also be interested to take a look at the program=20 >> and minutes of >> the third workshop with 45 participants at the 78th IETF=20 >> meeting in 2010: >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/NMRG.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/NMRG.html >>=20 >> On behalf of the workshop chairs >> /Olivier Festor >> _______________________________________________ >> nmrg mailing list >> nmrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg >>=20 >=20 From dbharrington@comcast.net Mon Nov 14 00:17:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3709311E80B4 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UAIoGfp7y8i0 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA3721F8D6C for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wwEU1h0070EPchoA9wHhuP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:17:41 +0000 Received: from davidPC ([130.129.19.147]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ww6z1h00U3APkkq8Mw735f; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:07:11 +0000 From: "David B Harrington" To: "'Olivier Festor'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:17:31 +0800 Message-ID: <5844BE34DB694704A80D5A7AF19F5DF8@davidPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acyim89kID6jjU+RS2SEsXn7zHIlCwACgglA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Cc: nmrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:17:51 -0000 thx > -----Original Message----- > From: Olivier Festor [mailto:olivier.festor@inria.fr] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:03 PM > To: David B Harrington > Cc: > Subject: Re: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage > of Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation > > Sorry we messed up wirh the date. > The meeting will be the saturday before 24th or th saturday > right after 31st the IETF. > > Best regards > > /Olivier Festor > > On 14 nov. 2011, at 03:07, "David B Harrington" > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > are you really scheduling this to run against the IETF schedule??? > > that seems a bad idea. > > The IETF does not schedule to avoid conflicts with NMRG, so we could > > end up with the ipfix WG scheduled on the same day as your workshop. > > > > I recommend scheduling this for the weekend preceding or following > > IETF, not during IETF week. > > Sunday is a bad day because IESG and IAB have meetings most of the > > Sunday preceding IETF. > > Friday afternoon has been successful in the past, but the > IESG and IAB > > now meet Friday afternoons, and there are quite a few > ipfix-interested > > people nominated for IESG and IAB positions, so this would probably > > not be a good idea. (nominees include Dan Romascanu, Juergen > > Schoenwaelder, Benoit Claise, > > > > dbh > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On > >> Behalf Of Olivier Festor > >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:11 PM > >> To: nmrg@irtf.org > >> Subject: [nmrg] 27th NMRG Meeting - Workshop on the Usage of > >> Netflow/IPFIXin Network Management - Call for Presentation > >> > >> [Apologies for possibly receiving multiple copies of this mail] > >> > >> Call for Presentations > >> 4th Workshop on the Usage of Netflow/IPFIX in Network Management > >> (27th NMRG meeting) > >> March 26, 2012, Paris, France > >> (Monday, second day of the 83rd IETF meeting in Paris) > >> > >> Flow-based approaches are used in various areas of network > >> management today, > >> such as link monitoring, accounting, and security. As in the > >> previous years, > >> the goal of this workshop is to be a place where researchers, > >> operators and > >> manufacturers can exchange and discuss their experiences and > >> ideas in the > >> usage of Netflow/IPFIX in network management. > >> Topics of interest are new applications of flows in the above > >> mentioned and > >> other areas, practical experiences, recent developments, as > >> well as related > >> topics such as: > >> - flow processing and storage techniques > >> - learning and classification techniques > >> - visualization of flow data > >> - software projects and tools > >> > >> We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to > >> exchange and discuss > >> their experiences and ideas. Presentations typically last > >> around 20 minutes, > >> and are followed by discussion rounds. > >> To propose a presentation, please send a short abstract (15 lines) > > to > >> Ramin Sadre, r.sadre@utwente.nl > >> University of Twente > >> before > >> January 25th, 2012. > >> > >> You might also be interested to take a look at the program > >> and minutes of > >> the third workshop with 45 participants at the 78th IETF > >> meeting in 2010: > >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/NMRG.txt > >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/NMRG.html > >> > >> On behalf of the workshop chairs > >> /Olivier Festor > >> _______________________________________________ > >> nmrg mailing list > >> nmrg@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > >> > > >