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Hi,=20

I have a comment related to the IANA Considerations section. First, it refe=
rs [4119] which is not listed in the references. Second it is not clear wha=
t is required from IANA. Is this actually adding a new column to the regist=
ry defined in RFC 4119, section 6.1? This should be clearly explained, and =
this is an update to RFC 4119. There is one more problem however. The regis=
try is extensible according to a first come - first served policy, allowing=
 for new methods for determining location to be added. How will the new num=
eric values be picked. Probably the next available integer - but this also =
needs to be explained.=20

I hope this helps.=20

Regards,

Dan
=20

> -----Original Message-----
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> Zambenedetti Granville
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> To: Network Management Research Group
> Subject: [nmrg] Last Call: draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-05
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> Dear NMRG
>=20
> This message is to start a two week last call (LC) on the following NMRG
> document, on incorporating location information in IP flow-based
> monitoring:
>=20
> . draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-05
>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix/
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> Please review the documents and provide your feedback in this two week
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>=20
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Hi Dan,
Thank you for the feedback. We will update the "IANA Considerations" section of the draft to clarify the mentioned issues.
Comments inline:

> I have a comment related to the IANA Considerations section. First, it refers
> [4119] which is not listed in the references. 

Ok, it will be fixed, thanks.

> required from IANA. Is this actually adding a new column to the registry
> defined in RFC 4119, section 6.1? 

We will clarify and explain this point. Yes, one option is adding a new column with numeric values for the methods available in the registry "Method tokens" 
specified in RFC 4119: https://www.iana.org/assignments/method-tokens/method-tokens.xhtml#method-tokens-1

> This should be clearly explained, and this
> is an update to RFC 4119. There is one more problem however. The registry is
> extensible according to a first come - first served policy, allowing for new
> methods for determining location to be added. How will the new numeric
> values be picked. Probably the next available integer - but this also needs
> to be explained.
> 

Yes, we will clarify this in the draft, as you suggested, numeric values of these methods are attributed according to the next available integer.

Best regards,

> I hope this helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
>  
> 
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> > Zambenedetti Granville
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> > 
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> > document, on incorporating location information in IP flow-based
> > monitoring:
> > 
> > . draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-05
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Sounds good. Thanks for the quick answer and for addressing my concerns.=20

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Dan


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> section of the draft to clarify the mentioned issues.
> Comments inline:
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Network Management of the IETF.

        Title           : Extending IP Flow-Based Network Monitoring with Location Information
        Authors         : Olivier Festor
                          Abdelkader Lahmadi
                          Rick Hofstede
                          Aiko Pras
	Filename        : draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-06.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2016-03-18

Abstract:
   IP Flow-based monitoring lacks a mechanism to associate measured IP
   Flow information with the geographic location of the device where the
   IP Flows have been observed. This document defines a set of
   guidelines and best practices to extend IP Flow monitoring protocols
   with location information of the device (both fixed and mobile) that
   acts as an IP Flow metering process.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Dear Dan

What=E2=80=99s your opinion about this new version of the draft? Does it =
address your observations from your previous review?

Best regards,

Lisandro

> Em 18 de mar de 2016, =C3=A0(s) 05:06, internet-drafts@ietf.org =
escreveu:
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Network Management of the IETF.
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>        Title           : Extending IP Flow-Based Network Monitoring =
with Location Information
>        Authors         : Olivier Festor
>                          Abdelkader Lahmadi
>                          Rick Hofstede
>                          Aiko Pras
> 	Filename        : draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-06.txt
> 	Pages           : 25
> 	Date            : 2016-03-18
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> Abstract:
>   IP Flow-based monitoring lacks a mechanism to associate measured IP
>   Flow information with the geographic location of the device where =
the
>   IP Flows have been observed. This document defines a set of
>   guidelines and best practices to extend IP Flow monitoring protocols
>   with location information of the device (both fixed and mobile) that
>   acts as an IP Flow metering process.
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> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix/
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> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-06
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> A diff from the previous version is available at:
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Dear NMRG,

This message might be of interest to you.

Best regards, Laurent.


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Subject: 	[Maprg] MOOC on Internet Measurements
Date: 	Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:00:04 +0100
From: 	EXT Renata Cruz Teixeira <renata.teixeira@inria.fr>
To: 	maprg@irtf.org



Dear Colleagues,

The MOOC "Internet Measurements: a Hands-on Introduction" will be 
available soon on the platform France UniversitÃ© NumÃ©rique. It will be 
taught by Timur Friedman from UPMC and Renata Teixeira from Inria.

This course is taught in English and will cover internet measurement 
basics, including network topology and routes; connectivity, losses, 
latency, and geolocation; bandwidth; and traffic measurements; with 
hands-on exercises on PlanetLab Europe.

This course is of interest to a wide range of people: system or network 
operators, designers of applications or services running over the 
internet or just curious end-users who would like to better diagnose 
problems.

The prerequisite for this course is a level of understanding of internet 
technology that comes  from an advanced undergraduate course or a first 
Masters course in networking, or equivalent professional experience.

Program:
Week 1 : Introduction
Week 2 : Topology and routes
Week 3 : Connectivity, losses, latency, and geolocation
Week 4 : Bandwidth
Week 5 : Traffic measurements

It will be available from May, 23, to June, 19, 2016.

Registrations are already open: 
https://www.fun-mooc.fr/courses/inria/41011/session01/about

Best,
Renata

-- 

Laurent Ciavaglia

Senior Research Manager

Bell Labs, Nokia

+33 160 402 636

Route de Villejust | 91620 Nozay | France

LinkedIn: laurentciavaglia <http://fr.linkedin.com/in/laurentciavaglia/>




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      <div class="">The MOOC "Internet Measurements: a Hands-on
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        This course is taught in English and will cover internet
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        This course is of interest to a wide range of people: system or
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        The prerequisite for this course is a level of understanding of
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        Week 4 : Bandwidth<br class="">
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