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Dear all,

In order to to organize the next NMRG virtual meeting by the end of June or begin 
of July, please fill out the doodle below by June 7th.
Duration: 2 hours
Location: Webex
https://doodle.com/poll/2gdkdfx5u5z9pi8d

Thank you,
JÃ©rÃ´me


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[Apologies for cross and multiple postings]

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                 CALL FOR PAPERS =E2=80=93 CNSM 2019
  15th International Conference on Network and Service Management

             21-25 October 2019, Halifax, Canada

           Paper Submission Deadline: 15 June 2019 (extended)

               http://www.cnsm-conf.org/2019/

********************************************************************

The 15th International Conference on  Network and Service Management
(CNSM) is  inviting  authors  to  submit  original  contributions in
the network  and  service  management  research  area.  CNSM 2019 is
a selective single-track  conference, covering  all  aspects  of the
management of networks and services, pervasive systems, enterprises,
and  cloud computing environments. CNSM 2019 will focus on the theme
"Embracing the New Wave of AI". The core track  is accompanied  by a
series of workshops and poster sessions.

Papers  accepted  and  presented at CNSM 2019 will be published open
access  on  the  conference  Web site (with IFIP copyright). Authors
of  selected  papers  accepted  for  publication  in  the CNSM  2019
proceedings  will  be invited to submit an extended version of their
paper to the IEEE  Transactions  on  Network and Service Management.

Topics of interest include but are not limited to:

Network Management
 - Software-defined networks
 - Virtual networks
 - Overlay networks
 - Wireless networks and cellular networks
 - Sensor networks
 - Internet of Things networks
 - Information-centric networks
 - Enterprise networks and campus networks
 - Data center networks
 - Optical networks
 - IP networks
 - Home networks
 - Access networks
 - SCADA networks and distributed control systems
 - Smart cities and smart grids

Management Paradigms
 - Centralized management
 - Distributed management
 - Hierarchical management
 - Federated management
 - Autonomic and cognitive management
 - Policy-based management
 - Pro-active management
 - Energy-aware management
 - Quality of experience-centric management=09

Service Management
 - Cloud computing services
 - Content delivery services
 - Multimedia services
 - Internet connectivity and Internet access
 - Internet of Things services
 - Security services
 - Context-aware services
 - Information technology services

Business Management
 - Economic aspects
 - Multi-stakeholder aspects
 - Service level agreements
 - Lifecycle aspects
 - Process and workflow aspects
 - Legal perspective
 - Regulatory perspective
 - Privacy aspects

Functional Areas
 - Deployment management
 - Fault management
 - Configuration management
 - Accounting management
 - Performance management
 - Security management=09

Management Technologies
 - Network function virtualization
 - Software-defined networking
 - Orchestration
 - Cloud computing and cloud storage
 - Communication protocols
 - Middleware
 - Data models, information models semantic models
 - Operations support systems and business support systems
 - Information visualization

Methods
 - Mathematical optimization
 - Control theory
 - Probability theory, stochastic processes, and queuing theory
 - Machine learning, artificial intelligence
 - Evolutionary algorithms
 - Economic theory and game theory
 - Mathematical logic and automated reasoning
 - Data mining and (big) data analysis
 - Monitoring and measurements
 - Computer simulation experiments
 - Prototype implementation and testbed experimentation
 - Field trials

--------------------------------------------------------------------
SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

Authors  are  invited  to  submit  original  contributions that have
not been published  or  submitted  for publication elsewhere. Papers
should  be prepared using the IEEE 2-column conference style and are
limited to 8 pages excluding references (full  papers)  or  4  pages
excluding  references (short  papers). They  have  to  be  submitted
electronically  in PDF  format  through  EDAS. Papers exceeding page
limits, multiple  submissions, and  self-plagiarized  papers will be
rejected  without  further  review. All  other  papers  will sustain
a  thorough  single-blind  review process, followed  by  a  rebuttal
phase.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
IMPORTANT DATES

Paper Submission       :  June 15, 2019 (extended)
Acceptance Notification:  August 5, 2019
Camera Ready due       :  August 30, 2019
Conference             :  October 21-25, 2019

--------------------------------------------------------------------
ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

General Chair

    Hanan Lutfiyya, University of Western Ontario, Canada
    Yixin Diao, PebblePost, USA

Technical Program Co-Chairs

    Nur Zincir-Heywood, Dalhousie University, Canada
    Remi Badonnel, Telecom Nancy, France

Steering Committee

    Raouf Boutaba, University of Waterloo, Canada
    Marcus Brunner, Swisscom, Switzerland
    Prosper Chemouil, Orange Labs, France
    James Hong, POSTECH, Korea
    Deep Medhi, University of Missouri-Kansas City, USA
    Aiko Pras, University of Twente, The Netherlands
    Doug Zuckerman, Applied Communication Sciences, USA

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  15th International Conference on Network and Service Management

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               <a href=3D"http://www.cnsm-conf.org/2019/">http://www.cnsm-c=
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The 15th International Conference on  Network and Service Management
(CNSM) is  inviting  authors  to  submit  original  contributions in
the network  and  service  management  research  area.  CNSM 2019 is
a selective single-track  conference, covering  all  aspects  of the
management of networks and services, pervasive systems, enterprises,=20
and  cloud computing environments. CNSM 2019 will focus on the theme
&quot;Embracing the New Wave of AI&quot;. The core track  is accompanied  b=
y a
series of workshops and poster sessions.=20

Papers  accepted  and  presented at CNSM 2019 will be published open
access  on  the  conference  Web site (with IFIP copyright). Authors=20
of  selected  papers  accepted  for  publication  in  the CNSM  2019=20
proceedings  will  be invited to submit an extended version of their=20
paper to the IEEE  Transactions  on  Network and Service Management.

Topics of interest include but are not limited to:

Network Management
 - Software-defined networks=20
 - Virtual networks=20
 - Overlay networks=20
 - Wireless networks and cellular networks=20
 - Sensor networks=20
 - Internet of Things networks=20
 - Information-centric networks
 - Enterprise networks and campus networks=20
 - Data center networks=20
 - Optical networks=20
 - IP networks=20
 - Home networks=20
 - Access networks=20
 - SCADA networks and distributed control systems=20
 - Smart cities and smart grids
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Management Paradigms
 - Centralized management
 - Distributed management
 - Hierarchical management
 - Federated management
 - Autonomic and cognitive management
 - Policy-based management
 - Pro-active management
 - Energy-aware management
 - Quality of experience-centric management=09

Service Management
 - Cloud computing services
 - Content delivery services
 - Multimedia services
 - Internet connectivity and Internet access
 - Internet of Things services
 - Security services
 - Context-aware services
 - Information technology services
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Business Management
 - Economic aspects
 - Multi-stakeholder aspects
 - Service level agreements
 - Lifecycle aspects
 - Process and workflow aspects
 - Legal perspective
 - Regulatory perspective
 - Privacy aspects
=20
Functional Areas
 - Deployment management
 - Fault management
 - Configuration management
 - Accounting management
 - Performance management
 - Security management=09

Management Technologies
 - Network function virtualization
 - Software-defined networking
 - Orchestration
 - Cloud computing and cloud storage
 - Communication protocols
 - Middleware
 - Data models, information models semantic models
 - Operations support systems and business support systems
 - Information visualization
=20
Methods
 - Mathematical optimization
 - Control theory
 - Probability theory, stochastic processes, and queuing theory
 - Machine learning, artificial intelligence
 - Evolutionary algorithms
 - Economic theory and game theory
 - Mathematical logic and automated reasoning
 - Data mining and (big) data analysis
 - Monitoring and measurements
 - Computer simulation experiments
 - Prototype implementation and testbed experimentation
 - Field trials

--------------------------------------------------------------------
SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

Authors  are  invited  to  submit  original  contributions that have
not been published  or  submitted  for publication elsewhere. Papers=20
should  be prepared using the IEEE 2-column conference style and are=20
limited to 8 pages excluding references (full  papers)  or  4  pages=20
excluding  references (short  papers). They  have  to  be  submitted=20
electronically  in PDF  format  through  EDAS. Papers exceeding page=20
limits, multiple  submissions, and  self-plagiarized  papers will be=20
rejected  without  further  review. All  other  papers  will sustain=20
a  thorough  single-blind  review process, followed  by  a  rebuttal=20
phase.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
IMPORTANT DATES

Paper Submission       :  June 15, 2019 (extended)
Acceptance Notification:  August 5, 2019
Camera Ready due       :  August 30, 2019
Conference             :  October 21-25, 2019

--------------------------------------------------------------------
ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

General Chair

    Hanan Lutfiyya, University of Western Ontario, Canada
    Yixin Diao, PebblePost, USA=20

Technical Program Co-Chairs

    Nur Zincir-Heywood, Dalhousie University, Canada
    Remi Badonnel, Telecom Nancy, France=20

Steering Committee

    Raouf Boutaba, University of Waterloo, Canada
    Marcus Brunner, Swisscom, Switzerland
    Prosper Chemouil, Orange Labs, France
    James Hong, POSTECH, Korea
    Deep Medhi, University of Missouri-Kansas City, USA
    Aiko Pras, University of Twente, The Netherlands
    Doug Zuckerman, Applied Communication Sciences, USA</pre></div>

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Dear all,

I would like to consitute a team to work on the second item (Network AI challenge).
If you are interested please let me know.

Best regards
jerome

On 24/05/2019 17:47, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please find below and at: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/minutes-interim-2019-nmrg-05-201905231700
>
> or here if you prefer the Etherpad version: 
> https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523
>
> the minutes of our virtual meeting held on May 23^th , 2019.
>
> *_Summary of main action points:_*
>
>  1. Dean to formalize a problem statement on "residual configurations" and see
>     relevance to add this item to the work plan.
>  2. Creation of a team tasked to document the Network AI Challenge framework.
>  3. Chairs: propose refined work plan and milestones for approval
>
> We will soon send a doodle poll for the next meeting in June/July.
>
> Thanks to all the participants, to Jéferson for the minutes, and looking forward 
> to the next virtual/physical meetings.
>
> Best regards, Laurent.
>
> ---
>
> NMRG Virtual Meeting May 2019
>
> Thursday 23-05-2019 17:00-19-00 CEST
>
> Participants (12):
>
> Laurent Ciavaglia (co-chair, Nokia), Jérôme François (co-chair, INRIA), Jeferson 
> Nobre (secretary, UFRGS), Dean Bogdanovic (Volta Networks), Jeff Tantsura 
> (Apstra), Egemen Cetinkaya (Verizon); Julien Maisonneuve (Nokia), Sabine 
> Randriamasy (Nokia), Luis Contreras (Telefonica), Vishnu Ram (Technical 
> Consultant, ITU-T ML5G FG), Shagufta Henna (TSSG), Alex Clemm (Huawei)
>
> Useful links:
>
> * Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-05-nmrg-01/
>
> * Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/session/nmrg
>
> * Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m3749c133247f0efd650133795d261af1
>
> * Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523
>
> Agenda:
>
> 05min. - Short introduction of new co-chair: Jérôme.
>
> 05min. - Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.
>
> 60min. - Status progress on Intent Based Networking topic
>
> IBN some challenges and research directions
>
> Work plan refinement
>
> 20min. - Network AI Challenge project
>
> Interest expressed from Vishnu Ram (ITU-T ML5G FG)
>
> Draft framework, Jérôme & Laurent
>
> 15min. - Modus Operandi for virtual meetings
>
> What is working well and not
>
> Dedicated meeting per topic? Alternate meetings per time zone
>
> Input: more proactive, only presentations or something more/different
>
> Output: minutes and actions, need more?
>
> How to follow-up between meetings? I-D updates, central place for work plan, 
> progress and issue tracking, back-end / front-end
>
> xxmin. - Any other business?
>
> Meeting notes:
>
>  - Agenda bashing
>
>  - Jérôme presentation
>
> ****************************************************
>
> IBN some challenges and research directions
>
> Dean: In respect to intent from existing systems, there is configuration in the 
> system... Old rules that are still in the systems and are not relevant anymore.
>
> Need some sort of "garbage collector"
>
> Jeff: what is the single source of truth? What the delta of the intent state and 
> the operational state?
>
> The brown field is a complex topic.
>
> There are known frameworks for ACL (references?)
>
> Dean: Single source of truth is the configuration files which are written by 
> humans, but which becomes lost because people leave the organization. Hard 
> problem as seen by people from the operational side.
>
> Jeff: API for users to express the intent...
>
> Laurent: from legacy point of view, it is needed a path to enable the 
> interopetation in order to perform intent extraction from the CLI. It is 
> necessary more data to analyse it.
>
> Jeff: I don't see how to do this fully automatic (intent extraction?).
>
> Jeff: It is needed to reach consensus in distributed systems (refer to slide 10) 
> about the intent state across the system,
>
> Cannot rely on a centralized entity, so have to degin/evaluate a system based on 
> consensus with distributed entities and see the cost ratio (performance vs. 
> complexity).
>
> Stateless and central entity, could be path for lots or research.
>
> Jeff: Planning changes through intent, how it is done? Telemetry framework being 
> proposed by the IETF, it could be some colaboration.
>
> abstracting the view from telemetry and linking to the intent deployment.
>
> Dean: updates on intent, how they would work?
>
> Jeff:?
>
> Laurent: it depends how dependencies on intent would be formulated.
>
> Dean: Intent as an atomic action avoids the dependecies problem.
>
> Laurent: there will be relationships among intents, this could be included in 
> the workplan.
>
> ******************
>
> - IBN Work Plan
>
> Jeff: terminology first.
>
> Dean: garbage colection routine, potentially added to the work plan?
>
> Laurent: formalize the problem and see from there.
>
> **************************
>
> - Network AI Challenge
>
> Vishnu: Uses cases, we have analyzed several use cases considering 5G e future 
> networks.
>
> Vishnu: ITU Focus group on this topic.
>
> Vishnu: We want to participate in the defintions of any of this aspects.
>
> Laurent: form a team to define/document the Network AI challenge.
>
> Jéferson: how do you think that we should pursue that? as a draft?
>
> Laurent: no specific recommendation on form, could be draft, doc, slides
>
> Eventually, if useful to document challenge framework as an I-D to be re-usable.
>
> Dean: would rather see a challenge linking IBN and autonomic networking, incl. 
> ANIMA. more realistic, indutry expectations.
>
> Jeff: I could be interested if it is not too general (AI challenge)
>
> Laurent: Jérôme  would be involved (lead co-chair on the project).
>
> Vishnu ok to be part of the team.
>
> - Virtual meetings
>
> Laurent: wnat to know areas of improvement, what we can do to have 
> efficient/useful meeting. propose issue/topic for more in-depth discussion 
> during the meeting.
>
> Jeff: some level of project management would be great
>
> Jéferson: forming teams maybe would be helpul to track advances
>
> Alex: Meetings are fine
>
> Laurent: careful no to slide to some traditional project management and to no 
> create 'groups within the group" with the design teams.
>
> But if this is what the RG is aksing we will implement that.
>
> Laurent: Virutal meetings specific for IBN?
>
> Dean: ?
>
>
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    Best regards<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dear
            all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Please
            find below and at:
            <a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/minutes-interim-2019-nmrg-05-201905231700"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/minutes-interim-2019-nmrg-05-201905231700</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">or
            here if you prefer the Etherpad version:
            <a
              href="https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">the
            minutes of our virtual meeting held on May 23<sup>th</sup>,
            2019.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
                New&quot;">Summary of main action points:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
              New&quot;">Dean to formalize a problem statement on
              "residual configurations" and see relevance to add this
              item to the work plan.
              <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
              New&quot;">Creation of a team tasked to document the
              Network AI Challenge framework.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo1"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
              New&quot;">Chairs: propose refined work plan and
              milestones for approval<o:p></o:p></span></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">We
            will soon send a doodle poll for the next meeting in
            June/July.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Thanks
            to all the participants, to Jéferson for the minutes, and
            looking forward to the next virtual/physical meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Best
            regards, Laurent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">NMRG
            Virtual Meeting May 2019<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Thursday
            23-05-2019 17:00-19-00 CEST<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Participants
            (12):
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">    
            Laurent Ciavaglia (co-chair, Nokia), Jérôme François
            (co-chair, INRIA), Jeferson Nobre (secretary, UFRGS), Dean
            Bogdanovic (Volta Networks), Jeff Tantsura (Apstra), Egemen
            Cetinkaya (Verizon); Julien Maisonneuve (Nokia), Sabine
            Randriamasy (Nokia), Luis Contreras (Telefonica), Vishnu Ram
            (Technical Consultant, ITU-T ML5G FG), Shagufta Henna
            (TSSG), Alex Clemm (Huawei)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Useful
            links:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">*
            Agenda:
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-05-nmrg-01/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-05-nmrg-01/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">*
            Materials:
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/session/nmrg">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/session/nmrg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">*
            Webex:
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m3749c133247f0efd650133795d261af1">https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m3749c133247f0efd650133795d261af1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">*
            Etherpad:
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523">https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190523</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">05min.
            - Short introduction of new co-chair: Jérôme.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">05min.
            - Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">60min.
            - Status progress on Intent Based Networking topic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            IBN some challenges and research directions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Work plan refinement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">20min.
            - Network AI Challenge project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Interest expressed from Vishnu Ram (ITU-T ML5G FG)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Draft framework, Jérôme &amp; Laurent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">15min.
            - Modus Operandi for virtual meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            What is working well and not<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Dedicated meeting per topic? Alternate meetings per time
            zone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Input: more proactive, only presentations or something
            more/different<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            Output: minutes and actions, need more?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            How to follow-up between meetings? I-D updates, central
            place for work plan, progress and issue tracking, back-end /
            front-end<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">xxmin.
            - Any other business?
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Meeting
            notes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">   
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> -
            Agenda bashing  
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"> -
            Jérôme presentation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">****************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">IBN
            some challenges and research directions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            In respect to intent from existing systems, there is
            configuration in the system... Old rules that are still in
            the systems and are not relevant anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Need
            some sort of "garbage collector"
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            what is the single source of truth? What the delta of the
            intent state and the operational state?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The
            brown field is a complex topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">There
            are known frameworks for ACL (references?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            Single source of truth is the configuration files which are
            written by humans, but which becomes lost because people
            leave the organization. Hard problem as seen by people from
            the operational side.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            API for users to express the intent...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            from legacy point of view, it is needed a path to enable the
            interopetation in order to perform intent extraction from
            the CLI. It is necessary more data to analyse it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            I don't see how to do this fully automatic (intent
            extraction?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            It is needed to reach consensus in distributed systems
            (refer to slide 10) about the intent state across the
            system,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Cannot
            rely on a centralized entity, so have to degin/evaluate a
            system based on consensus with distributed entities and see
            the cost ratio (performance vs. complexity).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Stateless
            and central entity, could be path for lots or research.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            Planning changes through intent, how it is done? Telemetry
            framework being proposed by the IETF, it could be some
            colaboration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">abstracting
            the view from telemetry and linking to the intent
            deployment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            updates on intent, how they would work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            it depends how dependencies on intent would be formulated.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            Intent as an atomic action avoids the dependecies problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            there will be relationships among intents, this could be
            included in the workplan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">******************<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">-
            IBN Work Plan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            terminology first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            garbage colection routine, potentially added to the work
            plan?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            formalize the problem and see from there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">**************************<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">-
            Network AI Challenge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Vishnu:
            Uses cases, we have analyzed several use cases considering
            5G e future networks.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Vishnu:
            ITU Focus group on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Vishnu:
            We want to participate in the defintions of any of this
            aspects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            form a team to define/document the Network AI challenge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jéferson:
            how do you think that we should pursue that? as a draft?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            no specific recommendation on form, could be draft, doc,
            slides<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Eventually,
            if useful to document challenge framework as an I-D to be
            re-usable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            would rather see a challenge linking IBN and autonomic
            networking, incl. ANIMA. more realistic, indutry
            expectations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            I could be interested if it is not too general (AI
            challenge)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            Jérôme  would be involved (lead co-chair on the project).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Vishnu
            ok to be part of the team.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">-
            Virtual meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            wnat to know areas of improvement, what we can do to have
            efficient/useful meeting. propose issue/topic for more
            in-depth discussion during the meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jeff:
            some level of project management would be great<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Jéferson:
            forming teams maybe would be helpul to track advances<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Alex:
            Meetings are fine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            careful no to slide to some traditional project management
            and to no create 'groups within the group" with the design
            teams.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">But
            if this is what the RG is aksing we will implement that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Laurent:
            Virutal meetings specific for IBN?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Dean:
            ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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The next NMRG virtual meeting is planned on July 1st 11:00 - 13:00 UTC+2.

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As you know - some of the participants are in PDT (US west cost) time zon=
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.francois=40inria.fr>, wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The next NMRG virtual meeting is planned on July 1st 11:00 - 13:00 UTC+=
2.
>
> Proposed items for the agenda:
> - Status progress on Intent Based Networking
> - =46eedback from the San Jose meeting
> - AI/ML in NMRG
> -- Technical presentations
> -- Challenge
> - Other topics=3F
> - Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.
>
> =46eel free to comment and propose things.
> In particular, we would like to have some presentations related to AI/M=
L in net
> management, so please propose.
>
> Best regards
> J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me & Laurent
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<div dir=3D=22auto=22>As you know - some of the participants are in PDT (=
US west cost) time zone, the time proposed makes it for us 2:00-4:00am, w=
hich is extremely unfortunate=E2=80=A6&=23160;</div>
<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Would you please consider a =E2=80=9Cmore user frie=
ndly=E2=80=9D time=3F</div>
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<div class=3D=22match=46ont=22>Cheers,
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<div name=3D=22messageReplySection=22>On Jun 19, 2019, 12:41 AM -0700, J=C3=
=A9r=C3=B4me =46ran=C3=A7ois &lt;jerome.francois=40inria.fr&gt;, wrote:<b=
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in: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid =231abc9c;=22>De=
ar all,<br />
<br />
The next NMRG virtual meeting is planned on July 1st 11:00 - 13:00 UTC+2.=
<br />
<br />
Proposed items for the agenda:<br />
- Status progress on Intent Based Networking<br />
- =46eedback from the San Jose meeting<br />
- AI/ML in NMRG<br />
-- Technical presentations<br />
-- Challenge<br />
- Other topics=3F<br />
- Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.<br />
<br />
=46eel free to comment and propose things.<br />
In particular, we would like to have some presentations related to AI/ML =
in net<br />
management, so please propose.<br />
<br />
Best regards<br />
J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me &amp; Laurent<br />
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Dear JÃ©rÃ´me FranÃ§ois,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    nmrg Session 1 (1:30 requested)
    Thursday, 25 July 2019, Afternoon Session III 1740-1910
    Room Name: Viger size: 200
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iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/sessions/nmrg.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Network Management
Area Name: IRTF
Session Requester: JÃ©rÃ´me FranÃ§ois

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 80
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: panrg dtn irtfopen anima opsarea
 Second Priority: maprg coinrg dinrg



People who must be present:
  Laurent Ciavaglia
  Jerome Francois

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  Please not scheduled on Friday. 
Preference to be scheduled on Tuesday/Wednesday to have time for offline discussion until a planned workshop (interim meeting) on Friday.
Thanks! JÃ©rÃ´me and Laurent.
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Dear all,

Just a gentle reminder for our virtual meeting today 11:00-13:00 CEST.

Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-08-nmrg-01/
Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/session/nmrg
Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mf13f05555e4d7f0502d187f3804c9148
Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701


Agenda:

- 10 min Status of WG and next meetings, Laurent & JÃ©rÃ´me

- 20 min Intent Based Networking, Laurent & JÃ©rÃ´me
 Â Â Â  + Status progress on Intent Based Networking
 Â Â Â  + Feedback from San Jose meeting
 Â Â Â  + Montreal meeting call for contributions

- Network AI
 Â Â Â  + 15 min: challenge, JÃ©rÃ´me FranÃ§ois
 Â Â Â  + 20 min: Intelligent Management for Edge-computing, Minsuk kim
 Â Â Â  + 20 min: Intelligent Reasoning on External Events for Network Management: 
Positioning, Challenges, and Framework, Pedro Martinez-Julia
 Â Â Â  + 20 min: Self-driving networks, Abdelkader Lahmadi

xxmin. - Any other business?

Best,
Laurent and JÃ©rÃ´me


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On 19/06/2019 16:55, IESG Secretary wrote:
> The Network Management (nmrg) Research Group will hold
> a virtual interim meeting on 2019-07-01 from 11:00 to 13:00 Europe/Paris.
>
> Agenda:
> Agenda in preparation. Identified topics to be discussed:
> - Status progress on Intent Based Networking
> - Feedback from the San Jose meeting
> - AI/ML in NMRG
> -- Technical presentations (Call will be sent)
> -- Challenge
> - Other topics?
> - Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.
>   
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> Information about remote participation:
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/06/2019 16:55, IESG Secretary
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:156095611811.12112.13643112923426815468@ietfa.amsl.com">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The Network Management (nmrg) Research Group will hold
a virtual interim meeting on 2019-07-01 from 11:00 to 13:00 Europe/Paris.

Agenda:
Agenda in preparation. Identified topics to be discussed:
- Status progress on Intent Based Networking
- Feedback from the San Jose meeting
- AI/ML in NMRG
-- Technical presentations (Call will be sent)
-- Challenge
- Other topics?
- Status of the WG, next meetings, etc.
 

Information about remote participation:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mf13f05555e4d7f0502d187f3804c9148">https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mf13f05555e4d7f0502d187f3804c9148</a>

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nmrg mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nmrg@irtf.org">nmrg@irtf.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg">https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg</a>
</pre>
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