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Subject: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019
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Hello,

NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:

  *   Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session
  *   Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN worksho=
p

Please let us know, by Tuesday, July 8th, in case you are interested to pre=
sent/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.
Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Networking work items ([=
1], slide 8 for details).

Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the interim meeting/wo=
rkshop.

Thank you, best regards,
J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/sli=
des-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides


From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: J=E9ferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>; Pedro Martinez-Julia (p=
edromj@gmail.com) <pedromj@gmail.com>
Subject: NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019

Dear NMRG,

In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings at IETF 105, we would l=
ike to get your inputs on the following options, ideally before Wednesday, =
May 22nd 2019, AoE:

- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeting ("regular" NMRG session=
(s))
  We plan to allocate time for discussion on intent based networking and th=
e research group re-chartering.
  We could have time for other topics based on expressed needs, such as fol=
low-up on the AI for Network Management discussion in IETF 104/Prague/March=
 2019. Presentations on other topics are also welcome.


- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of the NMRG ("informal" NMRG=
 session(s). outcome could eventually be reported in the regular session if=
 timing allows)
  IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured time during mornings and ev=
enings of the IETF week.
  To maximize the efficiency of such unstructured time, we advise to organi=
ze in advance and call for specific items to be discussed and inform partic=
ipants accordingly.


- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated workshop/meeting as done at IETF =
102/Montreal/July 2018 ("interim" NMRG meeting).
  Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on intent based networking tog=
ether with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.
  We could repeat a similar experiment based on expressed needs.
  The topic could be again intent based networking or another one.
  We can try to accommodate another day to the extent possible. However it =
seems Friday would again be the best option wrt. to other planning constrai=
nt of the week.


Please note that Applied Networking Research Workshop (ANRW) will be taking=
 place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IRTF sessions will be schedu=
led on that day.

Thank you, best regards,
Laurent.


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">NMRG will meet at least twice in the w=
eek of IETF 105:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">=
Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session<o:p></o:p></span></li><li c=
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">=
Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN workshop<o:p>=
</o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Please let us know,
<b>by Tuesday, July 8<sup>th</sup></b>, in case you are interested to prese=
nt/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Primary topics of interest are on the =
Intent Based Networking work items ([1], slide 8 for details).<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Note: we will soon send details on the=
 logistics for the interim meeting/workshop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you, best regards,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeti=
ng/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-=
slides<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa=
clay) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07<br>
<b>To:</b> nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> J=E9ferson Campos Nobre &lt;jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br&gt;; Pedro Mart=
inez-Julia (pedromj@gmail.com) &lt;pedromj@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019<o:p></o:=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings =
at IETF 105, we would like to get your inputs on the following options, ide=
ally before Wednesday, May 22<sup>nd</sup> 2019,
 AoE:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeti=
ng (&quot;regular&quot; NMRG session(s))<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; We plan to allocate time for discussion on in=
tent based networking and the research group re-chartering.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; We could have time for other topics based on =
expressed needs, such as follow-up on the AI for Network Management discuss=
ion in IETF 104/Prague/March 2019. Presentations on
 other topics are also welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of=
 the NMRG (&quot;informal&quot; NMRG session(s). outcome could eventually b=
e reported in the regular session if timing allows)<o:p></o:p></span></b></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured=
 time during mornings and evenings of the IETF week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; To maximize the efficiency of such unstructur=
ed time, we advise to organize in advance and call for specific items to be=
 discussed and inform participants accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated worksho=
p/meeting as done at IETF 102/Montreal/July 2018 (&quot;interim&quot; NMRG =
meeting).<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on=
 intent based networking together with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; We could repeat a similar experiment based on=
 expressed needs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; The topic could be again intent based network=
ing or another one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; We can try to accommodate another day to the =
extent possible. However it seems Friday would again be the best option wrt=
. to other planning constraint of the week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">Please note that Applied Networking Research Work=
shop (ANRW) will be taking place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IR=
TF sessions will be scheduled on that day.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Thank you, best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Laurent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 10:41:39AM +0000, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:
> 
>   *   Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session
>   *   Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN workshop
> 
> Please let us know, by Tuesday, July 8th, in case you are interested to present/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.
> Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Networking work items ([1], slide 8 for details).
> 
> Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the interim meeting/workshop.

Dear Laurent and others,

I would like to continue with my (insistent) position and discuss some
challenges and other topics in relation to AI. Please, if possible, give
me some time for Thursday. I'm sorry I will not be there on Friday but I
will keep an eye to the follow-up as I am very interested on this. Thank
you very much.

> Thank you, best regards,
> Jérôme and Laurent.

Regards,
Pedro

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Dear Laurent, J=E9r=F4me,


I hope you are doing well.


I am wondering whether it would be possible to have a timeslot on Friday 20=
19-07-26.


I can present the main features of FlexNGIA, a futuristic Internet architec=
ture and focus on how it could help to deploy and implement intents through=
 some use-cases (https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.07137). I can adjust the presen=
tation time to the provided timeslot.


Thank you very much.


Cheers,

Faten--


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From: nmrg <nmrg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia -=
 FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
Sent: July 4, 2019 6:41 AM
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org
Subject: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Mont=
real / July 2019


Hello,



NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:

  *   Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session
  *   Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN worksho=
p



Please let us know, by Tuesday, July 8th, in case you are interested to pre=
sent/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.

Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Networking work items ([=
1], slide 8 for details).



Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the interim meeting/wo=
rkshop.



Thank you, best regards,

J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.



[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/sli=
des-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides





From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: J=E9ferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>; Pedro Martinez-Julia (p=
edromj@gmail.com) <pedromj@gmail.com>
Subject: NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019



Dear NMRG,



In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings at IETF 105, we would l=
ike to get your inputs on the following options, ideally before Wednesday, =
May 22nd 2019, AoE:



- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeting ("regular" NMRG session=
(s))

  We plan to allocate time for discussion on intent based networking and th=
e research group re-chartering.

  We could have time for other topics based on expressed needs, such as fol=
low-up on the AI for Network Management discussion in IETF 104/Prague/March=
 2019. Presentations on other topics are also welcome.





- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of the NMRG ("informal" NMRG=
 session(s). outcome could eventually be reported in the regular session if=
 timing allows)

  IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured time during mornings and ev=
enings of the IETF week.

  To maximize the efficiency of such unstructured time, we advise to organi=
ze in advance and call for specific items to be discussed and inform partic=
ipants accordingly.





- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated workshop/meeting as done at IETF =
102/Montreal/July 2018 ("interim" NMRG meeting).

  Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on intent based networking tog=
ether with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.

  We could repeat a similar experiment based on expressed needs.

  The topic could be again intent based networking or another one.

  We can try to accommodate another day to the extent possible. However it =
seems Friday would again be the best option wrt.. to other planning constra=
int of the week.





Please note that Applied Networking Research Workshop (ANRW) will be taking=
 place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IRTF sessions will be schedu=
led on that day.



Thank you, best regards,

Laurent.



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<p>I am wondering whether it would be possible to have a timeslot on Friday=
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<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I can present the main features of FlexNGIA, a futuristic Internet archi=
tecture and focus on how it could help to deploy and implement intents thro=
ugh some use-cases (<a href=3D"https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.07137" class=3D"O=
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 I can adjust the presentation time to the provided timeslot. <br>
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<p>Thank you very much.</p>
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</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
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<p>Faten--<br>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:</spa=
n></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in;" type=3D"disc">
<li style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session</span></li><li style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(31, 73, 125); margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN workshop</sp=
an></li></ul>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">Please let us know,
<b>by Tuesday, July 8<sup>th</sup></b>, in case you are interested to prese=
nt/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Networki=
ng work items ([1], slide 8 for details).</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the in=
terim meeting/workshop.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">Thank you, best regards,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-=
05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;=
 color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none; border-left:solid blue 1.5pt; padding:0in 0in 0i=
n 4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none; border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<b>From:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07<br>
<b>To:</b> nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> J=E9ferson Campos Nobre &lt;jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br&gt;; Pedro Mart=
inez-Julia (pedromj@gmail.com) &lt;pedromj@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>Dear NMRG,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings at IETF 105, we would =
like to get your inputs on the following options, ideally before Wednesday,=
 May 22<sup>nd</sup> 2019, AoE:</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,ser=
if">- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeting (&quot;regular&quot=
; NMRG session(s))</span></b></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; We plan to allocate time for discussion on intent based networking =
and the research group re-chartering.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; We could have time for other topics based on expressed needs, such =
as follow-up on the AI for Network Management discussion in IETF 104/Prague=
/March 2019. Presentations on other topics are also
 welcome.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,ser=
if">- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of the NMRG (&quot;infor=
mal&quot; NMRG session(s). outcome could eventually be reported in the regu=
lar session if timing allows)</span></b></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured time during mornings =
and evenings of the IETF week.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; To maximize the efficiency of such unstructured time, we advise to =
organize in advance and call for specific items to be discussed and inform =
participants accordingly.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,ser=
if">- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated workshop/meeting as done at I=
ETF 102/Montreal/July 2018 (&quot;interim&quot; NMRG meeting).</span></b></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on intent based networki=
ng together with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; We could repeat a similar experiment based on expressed needs.</spa=
n></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; The topic could be again intent based networking or another one.</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp; We can try to accommodate another day to the extent possible. Howev=
er it seems Friday would again be the best option wrt.. to other planning c=
onstraint of the week.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,ser=
if">Please note that Applied Networking Research Workshop (ANRW) will be ta=
king place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IRTF sessions will be sc=
heduled on that day.</span></b></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>Thank you, best regards,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"=
>Laurent.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;, sans-serif;">
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Hi,

With the current focus of the NMRG on AI and network  automation, this could


be of interest to NMRG members.

Manuscript Due: October 1, 2019

 

Call for Papers

 

IEEE JSAC Special issue on 

Advances in Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning for Networking

 

 <https://tinyurl.com/AI4NET> https://tinyurl.com/AI4NET

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Artificial Intelligence (AI)  and  Machine  Learning (ML)  approaches  have 

emerged in the networking domain with  great promise. They can be clustered 

into  AI/ML  techniques  for network  engineering and  management,  network 

design for  AI/ML applications,  and  system aspects.  AI/ML techniques for 

network management, operations  and  automation improve  the way we address 

networking today. They support efficient, rapid, and trustworthy management 

operations.  The current interest  in softwarization  and  network program-

mability  fuels the  need for improved  network automation  in agile infra-

structures, including edge and fog environments. Network design and optimi-

zation for AI/ML applications address the complementary topic of supporting 

AI/ML-based  systems  through  novel networking  techniques, including  new 

architectures and performance models. A third topic area is system mplemen-

tation and open-source software development.

 

This special issue will focus on  networking aspects (mostly, network layer 

and above). Work with  primary contribution  to physical layer  concepts or 

wireless access  should be submitted  to other venues.  Prospective authors 

are invited to submit  high-quality,  original manuscripts on the following 

topics, but not limited to:

 

Fundamental Frameworks

* Network theory inspired by machine learning

* Transfer learning and reinforcement learning for networking

* Big data analytic frameworks for networking data

 

Network analytics

* Machine learning, data mining and big data analytics for networking

* Representation learning on operational data

* Data  mining, statistical  modeling, and machine learning for network 

  management

* User experience-driven network planning

* Learning  algorithms and tools for  network diagnostics and root cause 

  analysis

 

Network decision making and optimization

* Protocol design and optimization using machine learning

* Network architecture and optimization for AI/ML applications at scale

* Resource allocation for shared/virtualized networks using machine learning

* Energy-efficient network operations based on AI/ML algorithms

* AI/ML Algorithms for network security

* Network Reliability, robustness and safety based on AI/ML concepts

* Security for networks optimized and operated based on AI/ML concepts

 

Network automation

* Self-driving networks

* Self-Learning and adaptive networking protocols and algorithms

* Deep learning and reinforcement learning in network control & management

* Predictive or self-aware networking maintenance

* Open-source AI software for networking or networked applications

 

Submission Guidelines

All  submissions must  follow the  Guide for Authors  as published  on the 

Journal website at http://www.comsoc.org/jsac/paper-submission-guidelines.

 

Manuscript Due: October 1, 2019

Acceptance notification: March 1, 2020

Final manuscript due: March 15, 2020

Expected Publication of the Special Issue: Second quarter 2020

 

Guest Editors

Rolf Stadler, KTH Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden, stadler@kth.se
(Lead Guest Editor)

Prosper Chemouil, Orange Labs (retired), France, prosper.chemouil@ieee.org 

Pan Hui, University of Helsinki, Finland & Hong Kong University of Science
and Technology, Hong Kong, panhui@cse.ust.hk 

Noura Limam, University of Waterloo, Canada, noura.limam@uwaterloo.ca

Wolfgang Kellerer, Technical University of Munich, Germany,
wolfgang.kellerer@tum.de 

Yonggang Wen, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore, ygwen@ntu.edu.sg 

 

 

 


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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>With =
the current focus of the NMRG on AI and network &nbsp;automation, this =
could <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>be of interest to NMRG =
members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Manuscript Due: <b>October 1, =
2019</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Call for Papers</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>IEEE JSAC Special issue =
on&nbsp;</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Advances in Artificial Intelligence and =
Machine Learning for Networking</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><a =
href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/AI4NET"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>https://tinyurl.com/AI4NET</span></a></span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Artificial Intelligence (AI)&nbsp; =
and&nbsp; Machine&nbsp; Learning (ML)&nbsp; approaches&nbsp; have =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>emerged in the networking domain =
with&nbsp; great promise. They can be clustered <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>into&nbsp; AI/ML&nbsp; techniques =
&nbsp;for network&nbsp; engineering and&nbsp; management,&nbsp; network =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>design for&nbsp; AI/ML =
applications,&nbsp; and&nbsp; system aspects.&nbsp; AI/ML techniques for =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>network management, operations&nbsp; =
and&nbsp; automation improve&nbsp; the way we address =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>networking today. They support efficient, =
rapid, and trustworthy management <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>operations.&nbsp; The current =
interest&nbsp; in softwarization&nbsp; and&nbsp; network =
program-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>mability&nbsp; fuels the&nbsp; need for =
improved&nbsp; network automation&nbsp; in agile =
infra-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>structures, including edge and fog =
environments. Network design and optimi-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>zation for AI/ML applications address the =
complementary topic of supporting <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>AI/ML-based&nbsp; systems&nbsp; =
through&nbsp; novel networking&nbsp; techniques, including&nbsp; new =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>architectures and performance models. A =
third topic area is system mplemen-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>tation and open-source software =
development.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>This =
special issue will focus on&nbsp; networking aspects (mostly, network =
layer <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>and above). Work with&nbsp; primary =
contribution&nbsp; to physical layer&nbsp; concepts or =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>wireless access&nbsp; should be =
submitted&nbsp; to other venues.&nbsp; Prospective authors =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>are invited to submit&nbsp; =
high-quality,&nbsp; original manuscripts on the following =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>topics, but not limited =
to:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Fundamental =
Frameworks<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Network theory inspired by =
machine learning<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Transfer learning and =
reinforcement learning for networking<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* =
Big data analytic frameworks for networking data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Network analytics<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* =
Machine learning, data mining and big data analytics for =
networking<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Representation learning on operational =
data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Data&nbsp; mining, statistical&nbsp; =
modeling, and machine learning for network <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>&nbsp;&nbsp;management<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* User experience-driven network =
planning<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Learning&nbsp; algorithms and tools =
for&nbsp; network diagnostics and root cause <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>&nbsp;&nbsp;analysis<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Network decision making and =
optimization<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Protocol design and =
optimization using machine learning<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* =
Network architecture and optimization for AI/ML applications at =
scale<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Resource allocation for =
shared/virtualized networks using machine =
learning<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Energy-efficient network operations =
based on AI/ML algorithms<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* =
AI/ML Algorithms for network security<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* =
Network Reliability, robustness and safety based on AI/ML =
concepts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Security for networks optimized and =
operated based on AI/ML concepts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Network =
automation<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Self-driving =
networks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Self-Learning and adaptive networking =
protocols and algorithms<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Deep learning and =
reinforcement learning in network control &amp; =
management<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Predictive or self-aware networking =
maintenance<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>* Open-source AI software for networking =
or networked applications<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Submission =
Guidelines<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>All&nbsp; submissions must&nbsp; follow =
the&nbsp; Guide for Authors&nbsp; as published&nbsp; on the =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Journal website at =
http://www.comsoc.org/jsac/paper-submission-guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Manuscript Due: <b>October 1, =
2019</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Acceptance notification: March 1, =
2020<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Final manuscript due: March 15, =
2020<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Expected Publication of the Special =
Issue: Second quarter 2020<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Guest Editors<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Rolf =
Stadler, KTH Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden, stadler@kth.se (Lead =
Guest Editor)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Prosper Chemouil, Orange =
Labs (retired), France, prosper.chemouil@ieee.org =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Pan Hui, University of Helsinki, Finland =
&amp; Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, Hong Kong, =
panhui@cse.ust.hk <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Noura Limam, University of =
Waterloo, Canada, noura.limam@uwaterloo.ca<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Wolfgang Kellerer, Technical University =
of Munich, Germany, wolfgang.kellerer@tum.de <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas'>Yonggang Wen, Nanyang Technological =
University, Singapore, ygwen@ntu.edu.sg <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Dear All,

We have just submitted a new draft named an Intent-driven Management =
Framework. Your comments are more than welcome!

Best wishes
Qiong Sun from China Telecom

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Name:		draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework
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Title:		An Intent-driven Management Framework
Document date:	2019-07-08
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Abstract:
   Intent was defined as an abstract high-level policy (or instruction)
   used to trigger network operations (not only configuration aspects,
   but also continuous tuning to adjust the measured/actual network
   state to an expected state). This document describes the intent-
   driven management architecture, its key elements, and interfaces.

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Hello Faten,

Thanks for your proposal.
We will include it in the agenda for the NMRG interim meeting / workshop on=
 Friday, July 26th.

Best regards, Laurent.

From: Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca <Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 07:30
To: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.c=
om>; nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org
Subject: Re: Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montrea=
l / July 2019


Dear Laurent, J=E9r=F4me,



I hope you are doing well.



I am wondering whether it would be possible to have a timeslot on Friday 20=
19-07-26.



I can present the main features of FlexNGIA, a futuristic Internet architec=
ture and focus on how it could help to deploy and implement intents through=
 some use-cases (https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.07137). I can adjust the presen=
tation time to the provided timeslot.



Thank you very much.



Cheers,

Faten--

________________________________
From: nmrg <nmrg-bounces@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org>> on behalf =
of Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.co=
m<mailto:laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>>
Sent: July 4, 2019 6:41 AM
To: nmrg@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg@irtf.org>
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg-chairs@irtf.org>
Subject: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Mont=
real / July 2019


Hello,



NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:
=B7         Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19:10, NMRG session
=B7         Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:30, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN w=
orkshop



Please let us know, by Tuesday, July 8th, in case you are interested to pre=
sent/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.

Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Networking work items ([=
1], slide 8 for details).



Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the interim meeting/wo=
rkshop.



Thank you, best regards,

J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.



[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/sli=
des-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides





From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07
To: nmrg@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg@irtf.org>
Cc: J=E9ferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br<mailto:jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.=
br>>; Pedro Martinez-Julia (pedromj@gmail.com<mailto:pedromj@gmail.com>) <p=
edromj@gmail.com<mailto:pedromj@gmail.com>>
Subject: NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019



Dear NMRG,



In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings at IETF 105, we would l=
ike to get your inputs on the following options, ideally before Wednesday, =
May 22nd 2019, AoE:



- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeting ("regular" NMRG session=
(s))

  We plan to allocate time for discussion on intent based networking and th=
e research group re-chartering.

  We could have time for other topics based on expressed needs, such as fol=
low-up on the AI for Network Management discussion in IETF 104/Prague/March=
 2019. Presentations on other topics are also welcome.





- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of the NMRG ("informal" NMRG=
 session(s). outcome could eventually be reported in the regular session if=
 timing allows)

  IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured time during mornings and ev=
enings of the IETF week.

  To maximize the efficiency of such unstructured time, we advise to organi=
ze in advance and call for specific items to be discussed and inform partic=
ipants accordingly.





- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated workshop/meeting as done at IETF =
102/Montreal/July 2018 ("interim" NMRG meeting).

  Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on intent based networking tog=
ether with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.

  We could repeat a similar experiment based on expressed needs.

  The topic could be again intent based networking or another one.

  We can try to accommodate another day to the extent possible. However it =
seems Friday would again be the best option wrt.. to other planning constra=
int of the week.





Please note that Applied Networking Research Workshop (ANRW) will be taking=
 place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IRTF sessions will be schedu=
led on that day.



Thank you, best regards,

Laurent.



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Hello Faten,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for your proposal.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">We will include it in the agenda for t=
he NMRG interim meeting / workshop on Friday, July 26<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Best regards, Laurent.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca =
&lt;Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 6, 2019 07:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) &lt;laurent.ciavagl=
ia@nokia.com&gt;; nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nmrg-chairs@irtf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105 / =
Montreal / July 2019<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">D=
ear Laurent, J=E9r=F4me,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I=
 hope you are doing well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I=
 am wondering whether it would be possible to have a timeslot on Friday 201=
9-07-26.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I=
 can present the main features of FlexNGIA, a futuristic Internet architect=
ure and focus on how it could help to deploy and implement intents through =
some use-cases (<a href=3D"https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.07137">https://arxiv.=
org/abs/1905.07137</a>).
 I can adjust the presentation time to the provided timeslot. <o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">T=
hank you very much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">C=
heers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">F=
aten--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> nmrg &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org">nmrg-bounces@irtf.org</a>&gt;
 on behalf of Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com">laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> July 4, 2019 6:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nmrg@irtf.org">nmrg@irtf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nmrg-chairs@irtf.org">nmrg-chairs@irtf.org</a>=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG activities at IETF 105=
 / Montreal / July 2019</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">Hello,</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">NMRG will meet at least twice in the week of IETF 105:</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=B7<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &q=
uot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Thursday, 2019-07-25, 17:40-19=
:10, NMRG session</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-li=
st:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=B7<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &q=
uot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Friday, 2019-07-26, 10:00-16:3=
0, NMRG interim meeting aka IBN workshop</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">Please let us know,
<b>by Tuesday, July 8<sup>th</sup></b>, in case you are interested to prese=
nt/discuss something in one/both of these meetings.</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">Primary topics of interest are on the Intent Based Network=
ing work items ([1], slide 8 for details).</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">Note: we will soon send details on the logistics for the i=
nterim meeting/workshop.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">Thank you, best regards,</span><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">[1]
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materi=
als/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/slides-=
interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-chairs-slides</a></span><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia =
- FR/Paris-Saclay)
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2019 13:07<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:nmrg@irtf.org">nmrg@irtf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> J=E9ferson Campos Nobre &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.=
br">jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br</a>&gt;; Pedro Martinez-Julia (<a href=3D"mailto:p=
edromj@gmail.com">pedromj@gmail.com</a>) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pedromj@gmai=
l.com">pedromj@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> NMRG activities at IETF 105 / Montreal / July 2019<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">Dear NMRG,</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">In order to plan the various possible NMRG meetings at IETF =
105, we would like to get your inputs on the following options, ideally bef=
ore Wednesday, May 22<sup>nd</sup> 2019, AoE:</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,s=
erif;color:black">- Topics for discussion during the IETF 105 meeting (&quo=
t;regular&quot; NMRG session(s))</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; We plan to allocate time for discussion on intent bas=
ed networking and the research group re-chartering.</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; We could have time for other topics based on expresse=
d needs, such as follow-up on the AI for Network Management discussion in I=
ETF 104/Prague/March 2019. Presentations on other
 topics are also welcome.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,s=
erif;color:black">- Use of unstructured time to progress on work of the NMR=
G (&quot;informal&quot; NMRG session(s). outcome could eventually be report=
ed in the regular session if timing allows)</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; IETF 105 schedule will allow for unstructured time du=
ring mornings and evenings of the IETF week.</span><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; To maximize the efficiency of such unstructured time,=
 we advise to organize in advance and call for specific items to be discuss=
ed and inform participants accordingly.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,s=
erif;color:black">- Side meeting in the form of a dedicated workshop/meetin=
g as done at IETF 102/Montreal/July 2018 (&quot;interim&quot; NMRG meeting)=
.</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; Last year we've organized a 1-day workshop on intent =
based networking together with the ETS Montreal, on the Friday.</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; We could repeat a similar experiment based on express=
ed needs.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; The topic could be again intent based networking or a=
nother one.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp; We can try to accommodate another day to the extent p=
ossible. However it seems Friday would again be the best option wrt.. to ot=
her planning constraint of the week.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,s=
erif;color:black">Please note that Applied Networking Research Workshop (AN=
RW) will be taking place on the Monday of IETF 105, and no other IRTF sessi=
ons will be scheduled on that day.</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">Thank you, best regards,</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,seri=
f;color:black">Laurent.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thanks for your review. I=E2=80=99m sorry that we used an old document =
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version.

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Thanks a lot!

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Best wishes

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Hi Sun,

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Thank you for the document. I didn't go through it yet but something =
hits my eye:

   This Internet-Draft will expire on January 8, 2009.

Is that normal?=20

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   Intent was defined as an abstract high-level policy (or instruction)
   used to trigger network operations (not only configuration aspects,
   but also continuous tuning to adjust the measured/actual network
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>Hi =
Mehdi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>Thanks for =
your review. I=E2=80=99m sorry that we used an old document and forgot =
to update this part=E2=80=A6 We will update it in the next =
version.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>Thanks a =
lot!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>Best =
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>Qiong Sun from =
China Telecom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=
=B6=E4=BA=BA<span lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'> Mehdi BEZAHAF =
&lt;mehdi.bezahaf@gmail.com&gt; <br></span><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>=E5=8F=91=E9=80=
=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4<span lang=3DEN-US>:</span></span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'> =
2019</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=E7=AD=89=E7=BA=BF'>=E5=B9=B4<span =
lang=3DEN-US>7</span>=E6=9C=88<span lang=3DEN-US>9</span>=E6=97=A5<span =
lang=3DEN-US> 18:38<br></span><b>=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> =
sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn<br></span><b>=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> nmrg@irtf.org; Kun Xie =
&lt;pat@bupt.edu.cn&gt;<br></span><b>=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98<span =
lang=3DEN-US>:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Re: [nmrg] [NMRG]FW: New =
Version Notification for =
draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework-00.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Hi =
Sun,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Thank you for the document. I =
didn't go through it yet but something hits my =
eye:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><pre =
style=3D'white-space:pre-wrap'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 This Internet-Draft will expire on =
January 8, 2009.<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Is that =
normal?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Mehdi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#B5121B'>M=
ehdi Bezahaf, PhD</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
>Senior Research Associate</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
>D31, InfoLab21</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
>School of Computing &amp; Communications</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
>Lancaster University</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
>+44 (0) 1524 510384</span></b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#616161'=
> </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Le&nbsp;mar. 9 juil. 2019 =
=C3=A0&nbsp;11:26, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn">sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn=
</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit&nbsp;:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Dear All,<br><br>We have just submitted a new draft named =
an Intent-driven Management Framework. Your comments are more than =
welcome!<br><br>Best wishes<br>Qiong Sun from China =
Telecom<br><br>-----</span>=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6<span =
lang=3DEN-US>-----<br></span>=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span =
lang=3DEN-US>: <a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt; =
<br></span>=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4<span lang=3DEN-US>: =
2019</span>=E5=B9=B4<span lang=3DEN-US>7</span>=E6=9C=88<span =
lang=3DEN-US>9</span>=E6=97=A5<span lang=3DEN-US> =
1:46<br></span>=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA<span lang=3DEN-US>: Qiong Sun =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn" =
target=3D"_blank">sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn</a>&gt;; Will Liu =
(Shucheng) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:liushucheng@huawei.com" =
target=3D"_blank">liushucheng@huawei.com</a>&gt;; Kun Xie &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pat@bupt.edu.cn" =
target=3D"_blank">pat@bupt.edu.cn</a>&gt;; Will LIU &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:liushucheng@huawei.com" =
target=3D"_blank">liushucheng@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br></span>=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=
=98<span lang=3DEN-US>: New Version Notification for =
draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework-00.txt<br><br><br>A new version of I-D, =
draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework-00.txt<br>has been successfully =
submitted by Will(Shucheng) Liu and posted to the IETF =
repository.<br><br>Name:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework<br>Revision:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;00<br>Title:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; An Intent-driven =
Management Framework<br>Document date:&nbsp; 2019-07-08<br>Group:&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Submission<br>Pages:&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13<br>URL:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framew=
ork-00.txt" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sun-nmrg-int=
ent-framework-00.txt</a><br>Status:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/=
" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-=
framework/</a><br>Htmlized:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework-00" =
target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-frame=
work-00</a><br>Htmlized:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-frame=
work" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sun-nmrg-in=
tent-framework</a><br><br><br>Abstract:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Intent was =
defined as an abstract high-level policy (or instruction)<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;used to trigger network operations (not only configuration =
aspects,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;but also continuous tuning to adjust the =
measured/actual network<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;state to an expected state). =
This document describes the intent-<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;driven management =
architecture, its key elements, and =
interfaces.<br><br><br><br><br>Please note that it may take a couple of =
minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff =
are available at <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br><br>The IETF =
Secretariat<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br=
>nmrg mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:nmrg@irtf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">nmrg@irtf.org</a><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg</a><o:p></o:=
p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>
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Hello,

NMRG will hold an interim meeting, aka Intent Based Networking workshop, on=
 the Friday of IETF 105 week at ETS Montreal [map<https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9=
wCVBJahaALVA>]:
For logistics, please let us know, by Thursday, July 18th, if you intent to=
 participate by answering the poll at: https://doodle.com/poll/vwysqkq4h34w=
6c5f
Remote participation will be provided.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.


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Dear chairs,

What time do you have in mind=3F =46riday is still a full IET=46 day - es=
pecially for routing gigs among us, it has 2 IDR(BGP)meetings scheduled.

Thanks and see you in Montreal.

Cheers,
Jeff
On Jul 11, 2019, 9:52 AM -0700, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - =46R/Paris-Sa=
clay) <laurent.ciavaglia=40nokia.com>, wrote:
> Hello,
>
> NMRG will hold an interim meeting, aka Intent Based Networking workshop=
, on the =46riday of IET=46 105 week at ETS Montreal =5Bmap=5D:
> =46or logistics, please let us know, by Thursday, July 18th, if you int=
ent to participate by answering the poll at: https://doodle.com/poll/vwys=
qkq4h34w6c5f
> Remote participation will be provided.
>
> Best regards, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me and Laurent.
>
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<div dir=3D=22auto=22>What time do you have in mind=3F =46riday is still =
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<div dir=3D=22auto=22>Thanks and see you in Montreal.&=23160;</div>
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<div class=3D=22match=46ont=22>Cheers,
<div>Jeff</div>
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<div name=3D=22messageReplySection=22>On Jul 11, 2019, 9:52 AM -0700, Cia=
vaglia, Laurent (Nokia - =46R/Paris-Saclay) &lt;laurent.ciavaglia=40nokia=
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<p class=3D=22MsoNormal=22><span style=3D=22font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Courier New&quot;=22>NMRG will hold an interim meeting, aka Intent =
Based Networking workshop, on the =46riday of IET=46 105 week at ETS Mont=
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&quot;Courier New&quot;=22>=46or logistics, please let us know, <b>by Thu=
rsday, July 18<sup>th</sup></b>, if you intent to participate by answerin=
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&quot;Courier New&quot;=22>Best regards, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me and Laurent.</s=
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Hello,

The draft agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105 has just been posted: https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-00

Please check it.

We have been more successful than planned and the agenda is packed.
The chairs will check with presenters how to balance presentation and discu=
ssion time.
Stay tuned for updates.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.

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Dear all,

Please find below and at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019=
-nmrg-08/materials/minutes-interim-2019-nmrg-08-201907011100
or here if you prefer the Etherpad version: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org=
/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701
the minutes of our virtual meeting held on July 1st, 2019.

The next virtual meeting will be in September. We will soon send a doodle p=
oll.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.


---
NMRG Virtual Meeting July 2019
Monday 01-07-2019 11:00-13-00 CEST


Participants (xx):

  *   Laurent Ciavaglia (co-chair, Nokia), J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois (co-chair,=
 INRIA), Pedro Martinez-Julia (NMRG secretary, NICT), Abdelkader Lahmadi (I=
NRIA), Will Liuscheng (Huawei), Minsuk Kim (ETRI), Walter Cerroni (Universi=
ty of Bologna), Marinos Charalambides (UCL), Dhruv Dhody (Huawei), Vishnu R=
am (Technical Consultant, ITU-T ML5G FG), Mehdi Bezahad (Lancaster Universi=
ty)


Useful links:
* Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-08-nmrg=
-01/
* Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/sess=
ion/nmrg
* Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dmf13f05555e4d7f0502d187f3=
804c9148
* Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701


Agenda:

- 10 min Status of WG and next meetings, Laurent & J=E9r=F4me

- 20 min Intent Based Networking, Laurent & J=E9r=F4me
        + Status progress on Intent Based Networking
        + Feedback from San Jose meeting
              ++ Minutes will be sent soon
              ++ Potential use cases: Data-Center Networks and interconnect=
, augmented with Enteprise networks, 5G verticals (different 5G use cases o=
n the same infra, 5G slicing), more "common" digital/communication services=
 provider use case
              ++ WIP: Propose a basic use case template (how to describe an=
d exploit a use case)
              ++ continue work on the terminology
 Marinos: architectural aspects discussed ?
 Laurent: not really. People were not deeply involved in IBN, so we stay at=
 a higher level.
 Marino: how to move this work forward?
 Laurent: yes, refinement of IBN workplan, open call for contributions to f=
ollow (no existing document)

        + Intent lifecycle and operating principles (outcome of the discuss=
ion of Laurent and Alex Clemm)
             ++ different from an architecture
             ++ objective: agree on a lifecycle on IBN (less controversial =
than an architecture), faster confergence time
             ++ Initial lefecycle diagram: will be updated in next days

 Abdelkader: what is the level of automation? seems to be very manual, what=
 is the benefit of using intent in that case?
 Laurent: once the intent is provided, then everything should be automated =
or intent can be extracted from the user-related data. Iterative refinement=
 of the intent with the user (work from Lisandro and Arthur). In the middle=
 of this diagram, there is also the operator to define how the system has t=
o catch the intents. Automation will also depend on the capabilities of the=
 system. On the left side, "user" inputs are manual, everything else on the=
 right side is/could be automatic.
 Abdelkader: so the user is not necessary a human, can be an application?
 Laurent: here the user is more a human user. So we may extend this diagram=
. user may also be an interface or system a human user is using to interact=
 with the IB system (e.g. a vertical industry and 5G network).
 Abdelkader: regarding the work of Arthur, what could be good is to would h=
ave a set of labels to recognize elements in the intent expressions.
 Laurent: an interesting area to explore. The diagram is incomplete, need t=
o identify inputs/ouputs and also supporting elements such as info and data=
 models. In IBN, there is usually a restricted language to express intents =
but in NMRG how can we be more flexible with dynamic environment, dynamic m=
apping of ontologies and system capabilities.
 Walter: need some sort of standardized interface between user space and sy=
stem space, and even at the lower level when applying intents (preparation =
and operation phase). Do you think there could be also standardized interfa=
ces between functions ?
 Laurent: no immediate answer, part of our investigation to define what lev=
el of standardization we would need but the less the better to keep flexibi=
lity. If we document external intertfaces, it will be a good achivement of =
the group. The goal is to minimize the standardization needed.
 J=E9r=F4me: more backward paths to the intermediate functions
 Laurent: agree, need to improve this, not only through report. Avoid to be=
 too much complete/detailed in first shot, in order to avoid entering in ar=
chitectural design, keep as high level bastraction as possible for the life=
cycle but still being useful in guiding work.
 Marinos: operator should express policies (at the right) and need also to =
be decomposed. there could be operators intents.
  Laurent: agree. consider them as orthogonal dimensions: service intent an=
d operation intent. not coming from the same actor, nor targeting the same =
goals.
  Mehdi: is this presentation recorded? Is the user space only humans?
  Laurent: I don't think there is a video recording but materials is availa=
ble on the nmrg webpage. For second question, this is WIP and diagram incom=
plete. The user is a human user (in the diagram). The user space is where i=
ntent are expressed.
  Mehdi: I'm involved in a UK project with BT. Who can ask the intents: pro=
vider, users.. ?
  Laurent: question fully valid, work regarding use case is in progress (ac=
tors, roles)...
  Medhi: who is "we"
  Laurent: Laurent from Nokia, acting as NMRG co-chair and contributor , wh=
at I am presetning here is as a contributor.


        + Montreal meeting call for contributions: call for presentations f=
or the regular session (topic: IBN) and technical meeting (topic also IBN, =
more deep discussion expected).


- Network AI
        + 15 min: challenge, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois
  Laurent: should keep/develop link with IETF (but not only): expertise, kn=
owledge about protocol issues (operational), presentations on measurement a=
nd analysis. WG/RG. bidirectional (bring AI/knowledge/novelty)(and beefit f=
rom feedback, expertise)
  Will: take the use cases from (?)
  J=E9r=F4me: identify existing use cses, document new ones. define the cri=
teria.

        + 20 min: Intelligent Management for Edge-computing, Minsuk kim

  Laurent: we did not give you enough time (sorry), we'll see what we can d=
o as next steps for these work in NMRG. Need to discuss with J=E9r=F4me.

        + 20 min: Intelligent Reasoning on External Events for Network Mana=
gement: Positioning, Challenges, and Framework, Pedro Martinez-Julia
  Will :

        + 20 min: Self-driving networks, Abdelkader Lahmadi

       J=E9r=F4me: Self-driving networks always suppose programmability?
       Abdelkader: yes but of course depends on the level of automation
       Mehdi: if we tweak legacy networks, can we still need programmabilit=
y
       Abdelkader: hard task to tweak
       Mehdi: do we mean a clean-slate approach or do you think that curren=
t network with this enabling technology is sufficent
       Abdelkader: prepare for self-driving networks (clean-slate approach)=
, for current approach we can have less automation


xxmin. - Any other business?






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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Please find below and at: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/materials/minutes-interim-2019-nmrg-08-2019=
07011100
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">or here if you prefer the Etherpad version: https://=
etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">the minutes of our virtual meeting held on July 1st,=
 2019.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">The next virtual meeting will be in September. We wi=
ll soon send a doodle poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">NMRG Virtual Meeting July 2019</span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Monday 01-07-2019 11:00-13-00 CEST<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Courier New&quot;,serif">Participants
</span></u></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier Ne=
w&quot;,serif">(xx):&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">Laurent Ciavaglia=
 (co-chair, Nokia), J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois (co-chair, INRIA), Pedro Martinez=
-Julia (NMRG secretary, NICT), Abdelkader Lahmadi (INRIA),
 Will Liuscheng (Huawei), Minsuk Kim (ETRI), Walter Cerroni (University of =
Bologna), Marinos Charalambides (UCL), Dhruv Dhody (Huawei), Vishnu Ram (Te=
chnical Consultant, ITU-T ML5G FG), Mehdi Bezahad (Lancaster University)<o:=
p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Courier New&quot;,serif">Useful links:</span></u></b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Agenda:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-08-nmr=
g-01/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-08-nmrg-01=
/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Materials:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/sessio=
n/nmrg">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/session/nmrg</a><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Webex:
<a href=3D"https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dmf13f05555e4d7f0502d187=
f3804c9148">
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dmf13f05555e4d7f0502d187f3804c9148<=
/a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Etherpad:
<a href=3D"https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701">https:/=
/etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20190701</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Courier New&quot;,serif">Agenda:</span></u></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">- 10 min Status of WG and next meetings, Laurent &am=
p; J=E9r=F4me<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">- 20 min Intent Based Networking, Laurent &amp; J=E9=
r=F4me<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; Sta=
tus progress on Intent Based Networking&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; Fee=
dback from San Jose meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; Minutes will be sent soon<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; Potential use cases: Data-Center Netw=
orks and interconnect, augmented with Enteprise networks, 5G verticals (dif=
ferent 5G use cases on the same infra, 5G slicing),
 more &quot;common&quot; digital/communication services provider use case<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; WIP: Propose a basic use case templat=
e (how to describe and exploit a use case)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; continue work on the terminology<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Marinos: architectural aspects discussed ?<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: not really. People were not deeply in=
volved in IBN, so we stay at a higher level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Marino: how to move this work forward?<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: yes, refinement of IBN workplan, open=
 call for contributions to follow (no existing document)<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; Int=
ent lifecycle and operating principles (outcome of the discussion of Lauren=
t and Alex Clemm)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; different from an architecture<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; objective: agree on a lifecycle on IBN (les=
s controversial than an architecture), faster confergence time<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;&#43; Initial lefecycle diagram: will be updated =
in next days<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Abdelkader: what is the level of automation? s=
eems to be very manual, what is the benefit of using intent in that case?<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: once the intent is provided, then eve=
rything should be automated or intent can be extracted from the user-relate=
d data. Iterative refinement of the intent with the
 user (work from Lisandro and Arthur). In the middle of this diagram, there=
 is also the operator to define how the system has to catch the intents. Au=
tomation will also depend on the capabilities of the system. On the left si=
de, &quot;user&quot; inputs are manual, everything
 else on the right side is/could be automatic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Abdelkader: so the user is not necessary a hum=
an, can be an application?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: here the user is more a human user. S=
o we may extend this diagram. user may also be an interface or system a hum=
an user is using to interact with the IB system (e.g.
 a vertical industry and 5G network).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Abdelkader: regarding the work of Arthur, what=
 could be good is to would have a set of labels to recognize elements in th=
e intent expressions.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: an interesting area to explore. The d=
iagram is incomplete, need to identify inputs/ouputs and also supporting el=
ements such as info and data models. In IBN, there
 is usually a restricted language to express intents but in NMRG how can we=
 be more flexible with dynamic environment, dynamic mapping of ontologies a=
nd system capabilities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Walter: need some sort of standardized interfa=
ce between user space and system space, and even at the lower level when ap=
plying intents (preparation and operation phase). Do
 you think there could be also standardized interfaces between functions ?<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: no immediate answer, part of our inve=
stigation to define what level of standardization we would need but the les=
s the better to keep flexibility. If we document external
 intertfaces, it will be a good achivement of the group. The goal is to min=
imize the standardization needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;J=E9r=F4me: more backward paths to the interme=
diate functions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Laurent: agree, need to improve this, not only=
 through report. Avoid to be too much complete/detailed in first shot, in o=
rder to avoid entering in architectural design, keep
 as high level bastraction as possible for the lifecycle but still being us=
eful in guiding work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;Marinos: operator should express policies (at =
the right) and need also to be decomposed. there could be operators intents=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Laurent: agree. consider them as orthogonal d=
imensions: service intent and operation intent. not coming from the same ac=
tor, nor targeting the same goals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Mehdi: is this presentation recorded? Is the =
user space only humans?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Laurent: I don't think there is a video recor=
ding but materials is available on the nmrg webpage. For second question, t=
his is WIP and diagram incomplete. The user is a human
 user (in the diagram). The user space is where intent are expressed.&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Mehdi: I'm involved in a UK project with BT. =
Who can ask the intents: provider, users.. ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Laurent: question fully valid, work regarding=
 use case is in progress (actors, roles)...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Medhi: who is &quot;we&quot;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Laurent: Laurent from Nokia, acting as NMRG c=
o-chair and contributor , what I am presetning here is as a contributor.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; Mon=
treal meeting call for contributions: call for presentations for the regula=
r session (topic: IBN) and technical meeting (topic also IBN, more deep dis=
cussion expected).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">- Network AI&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &#43; 15 min: challenge, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,=
serif">Laurent: should keep/develop link with IETF (but not only): expertis=
e, knowledge about protocol issues (operational), presentations on measurem=
ent and analysis. WG/RG. bidirectional (bring
 AI/knowledge/novelty)(and beefit from feedback, expertise)<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Will: take the use cases from (?)<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; J=E9r=F4me: identify existing use cses, docum=
ent new ones. define the criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; 20 =
min: Intelligent Management for Edge-computing, Minsuk kim<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Laurent: we did not give you enough time (sor=
ry), we'll see what we can do as next steps for these work in NMRG. Need to=
 discuss with J=E9r=F4me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; 20 =
min: Intelligent Reasoning on External Events for Network Management: Posit=
ioning, Challenges, and Framework, Pedro Martinez-Julia&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Will :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43; 20 =
min: Self-driving networks, Abdelkader Lahmadi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; J=E9r=F4me: Sel=
f-driving networks always suppose programmability?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Abdelkader: yes=
 but of course depends on the level of automation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mehdi: if we tw=
eak legacy networks, can we still need programmability<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Abdelkader: har=
d task to tweak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mehdi: do we me=
an a clean-slate approach or do you think that current network with this en=
abling technology is sufficent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Abdelkader: pre=
pare for self-driving networks (clean-slate approach), for current approach=
 we can have less automation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">xxmin. - Any other business?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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  Dear all,

Following the meeting we had in IETF104/Prague, we propose to have another side 
meeting to discuss AI in/for/* network management in Montreal (date and time TBC)  
to continue our discussion and refine our views on potential application of AI and 
on the  "network AI challenge".

The meeting is open to all who is interested. So, if you are interested, please 
fill out the following doodle:

https://doodle.com/poll/vwfrxs3nxu6ys9hz


Best regards,
Jérôme & Laurent


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Gentle reminder: do not forget to answer the poll for participation in the =
NMRG workshop on IBN - even if you intend to attend remotely.

--Laurent.

From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 18:53
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Subject: Poll NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - ET=
S Montreal

Hello,

NMRG will hold an interim meeting, aka Intent Based Networking workshop, on=
 the Friday of IETF 105 week at ETS Montreal [map<https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9=
wCVBJahaALVA>]:
For logistics, please let us know, by Thursday, July 18th, if you intent to=
 participate by answering the poll at: https://doodle.com/poll/vwysqkq4h34w=
6c5f
Remote participation will be provided.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Gentle reminder: do not forget to answ=
er the poll for participation in the NMRG workshop on IBN &#8211; even if y=
ou intend to attend remotely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">--Laurent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa=
clay) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 11, 2019 18:53<br>
<b>To:</b> nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nmrg-chairs@irtf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Poll NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26=
th - ETS Montreal<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">NMRG will hold an interim meeting, aka Intent Based =
Networking workshop, on the Friday of IETF 105 week at ETS Montreal [<a hre=
f=3D"https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9wCVBJahaALVA">map</a>]:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">For logistics, please let us know,
<b>by Thursday, July 18<sup>th</sup></b>, if you intent to participate by a=
nswering the poll at:
<a href=3D"https://doodle.com/poll/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f">https://doodle.com/pol=
l/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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Hello,

The final agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105 is available:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-01 and c=
opied below for your convenience.


@Presenters: please send your slides at your earliest convenience, or uploa=
d them directly using this new nice feature:
On the meeting materials page for a group, for example https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/meeting/105/session/nmrg
Anyone logged in who is not a chair/secretary for the group gets a [Suggest=
 New Slides]  button.
When they upload slides using that, the chairs will get email, and the sugg=
estions will appear in a new block on that page. Chairs can then accept or =
reject each suggestion.


And for those interested, do not forget to register for the NMRG workshop o=
n IBN: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmrg/F8WIWkNpM6Ide9VleSud4FJqi=
R4
Detailed information will be sent today.


Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.
---


NMRG 54th meeting
IETF 105, Montreal

RG Chair:
   Laurent Ciavaglia <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
   J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois <jerome.francois@inria.fr>

Useful links:
   Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nm=
rg-01
   Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/session/nmrg
   Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf105/nmrg/
   Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-nmrg
   Audio recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf105//
   Video recording: https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/playlists


***********
* Session 1
  Thursday, 25 July 2019, Afternoon Session III 1740-1910
  Room: Viger

  Agenda:
  1. Introduction + RG information, Chairs
     17:40, 5 min.

*** New work ***
  2. Refining Network Intents for Self-Driving Networks, Arthur Selle Jacob=
s
     17:50, 10 min. + 5 min. Q&A

*** Updates + Architecture discussion ***
  3a. Update on Intent Classification, Will Liu
     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/
     18:05, ~7 min.

  3b. Update on IBN Concepts, lifecycle and functionality, Alex Clemm
     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/
     18:15, ~7 min.

  3c. Considerations for intent-based management architecture(s), Laurent C=
iavaglia
      18:25, 10 min.

  3d. An intent-driven management framework, Sun Qiong
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/
      18:35, 10 min.

  3e. Discussion
      18:45, 15 min. Q&A

*** AI topic ***
  4. Summary of AI for Network Management activities, Pedro Martinez-Julia
     incl. presentation on intelligent Reasoning on External Events for Net=
work Management
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pedro-nmrg-intelligent-reasoni=
ng/
     19:00, 7 min. + 3 min. Q&A


From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 10:04
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Subject: Draft agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105

Hello,

The draft agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105 has just been posted: https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-00

Please check it.

We have been more successful than planned and the agenda is packed.
The chairs will check with presenters how to balance presentation and discu=
ssion time.
Stay tuned for updates.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.

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urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">The final agenda for NMRG session at I=
ETF 105 is available:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-01">https://datatracker.ietf.org/me=
eting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-01</a> and copied
 below for your convenience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">@Presenters:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497=
D"> please send your slides at your earliest convenience, or
 upload them directly using this new nice feature:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">On the meeting materials page for a gr=
oup, for example
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/session/nmrg">https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/session/nmrg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Anyone logged in who is not a chair/se=
cretary for the group gets a [Suggest New Slides] &nbsp;button.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">When they upload slides using that, th=
e chairs will get email, and the suggestions will appear in a new block on =
that page. Chairs can then accept or reject each
 suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">And for those interested, do not forge=
t to register for the NMRG workshop on IBN: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/ar=
ch/msg/nmrg/F8WIWkNpM6Ide9VleSud4FJqiR4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Detailed information will be sent toda=
y.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">NMRG 54th meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">IETF 105, Montreal<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">RG Chair:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courie=
r New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Laurent Ciavaglia &lt;laurent.ciavaglia@no=
kia.com&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; J=E9r=F6me Fr=
an=E7ois &lt;jerome.francois@inria.fr&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Useful links:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Agenda: https=
://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-01<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,=
serif;color:#1F497D">Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/se=
ssion/nmrg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Meetecho: http://www.meet=
echo.com/ietf105/nmrg/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Etherpad: https://etherpa=
d.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-nmrg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Audio recording: https://=
www.ietf.org/audio/ietf105//<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Video recording: https://=
www.youtube.com/user/ietf/playlists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">***********<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">* Session 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; Thursday, 25 July 2019, Afterno=
on Session III 1740-1910<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; Room: Viger
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 1. Introduction &#43; RG inform=
ation, Chairs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 17:40, 5 min.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">*** New work ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 2. Refining Network Intents for=
 Self-Driving Networks, Arthur Selle Jacobs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 17:50, 10 min=
. &#43; 5 min. Q&amp;A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">*** Updates &#43; Architecture discuss=
ion ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 3a. Update on Intent Classifica=
tion, Will Liu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https://datat=
racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 18:05, ~7 min=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;3b. Update on IBN Concepts=
, lifecycle and functionality, Alex Clemm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https://datat=
racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 18:15, ~7 min=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 3c. Considerations for intent-b=
ased management architecture(s), Laurent Ciavaglia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 18:25, =
10 min.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 3d. An intent-driven management=
 framework, Sun Qiong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courie=
r New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">18:35, 10 min.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;3e. Discussion=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; 18:45, 15 min. Q&amp;A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">*** AI topic ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp; 4. Summary of AI for Network Ma=
nagement activities, Pedro Martinez-Julia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; incl. present=
ation on intelligent Reasoning on External Events for Network Management<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pedro-nmrg-intelligent-reasoning/<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 19:00, 7 min.=
 &#43; 3 min. Q&amp;A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa=
clay) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2019 10:04<br>
<b>To:</b> nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Draft agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">The draft agenda for NMRG session at IETF 105 has ju=
st been posted:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nm=
rg-00">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-nmrg-0=
0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Please check it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">We have been more successful than planned and the ag=
enda is packed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">The chairs will check with presenters how to balance=
 presentation and discussion time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Stay tuned for updates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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Hello,

Details for the NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - =
ETS Montreal are available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-inte=
rim-2019-nmrg-07-nmrg-01/02/
and copied below for your convenience.


@Participants:
 . Please come prepared, read the drafts, think about intent examples, vali=
dation scenarios - for a fruitful meeting. This will not be presentation-fo=
cused !
. if you have specific topic for discussion and/or presentation, please inf=
orm the chairs.

The chairs would like to thank ETS Montreal, and particularly Mohamed-Faten=
 Zhani, for hosting us (again) in such good conditions!

Looking forward to meet you at IETF 105 and at the workshop.
Thank you, best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.
---


NMRG 55th meeting
Interim meeting, ETS Montreal, Canada
Friday 26-07-2019 09:30-16:30 EDT


* RG Chair:
   Laurent Ciavaglia <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
   J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois <jerome.francois@inria.fr>


* Meeting Location:
  =C9TS Montreal
  1100 Notre-Dame St W, Montreal, QC H3C 1K3, Canada
  Map: https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9wCVBJahaALVA
  4th Floor
  Department of Software and IT Engineering
  Room A4458 (the room is inside the department)
  How to access: From ETS entrance, take the elevators that are next to the=
 Cafeteria. Go to 4th floor and go to the department of Software and IT Eng=
ineering.


* Registration:
  Participation is free, registration is appreciated: https://doodle.com/po=
ll/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f


* Remote participation:
  https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm81b3d749f415e5456d8161b1db4eedb=
a


* Useful links:
   Agenda and Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-=
nmrg-07/session/nmrg
   Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190726


* Agenda:
  ** The meeting will focus on Intent Based Networking (IBN) and on making =
progress on the current work items, tentatively covering:
     - Concepts definition and terminology
     - Intent examples and validation scenarios, use cases
     - Architecture: requirements, principles, properties, functions/servic=
es, enablers, theory of operations, interworking/integration with other fra=
meworks, human-network interface...

  ** Pleased come prepared:
     - Read the active Internet Drafts
       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/
         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classificati=
on/
         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/

     - Think about examples of intents and how to validate them (on a scena=
rio, on a logical flow, who are the actors/roles involved...)


  ** Schedule:
      9h30-10h   Welcome and coffee
       10h-12h    Morning session
       12h-13h    Lunch break
      13h-14h30 Afternoon session I
      14h30-15h Coffee break
      15h-16h30 Afternoon session II

  ** Agenda items: (to be announced)
     1. Introduction, Chairs
     2. ...
     3. ...
     4. ...
     5. ...









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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Details for the
<b>NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - ETS Montreal =
a</b>re available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-=
nmrg-07-nmrg-01/02/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">and copied below for your convenience.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">@Participants:
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;. Please come prepared, read the drafts, think=
 about intent examples, validation scenarios &#8211; for a fruitful meeting=
. This will not be presentation-focused !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">. if you have specific topic for discussion and/or p=
resentation, please inform the chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">The chairs would like to thank ETS Montreal, and par=
ticularly Mohamed-Faten Zhani, for hosting us (again) in such good conditio=
ns!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Looking forward to meet you at IETF 105 and at the w=
orkshop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Thank you, best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">NMRG 55th meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Interim meeting, ETS Montreal, Canada<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Friday 26-07-2019 09:30-16:30 EDT<o:p></o:p></span><=
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urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* RG Chair:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Laurent Ciavaglia &lt;laurent.ciavaglia=
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</span><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courie=
r New&quot;,serif">J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois &lt;jerome.francois@inria.fr&gt;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Meeting Location:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; =C9TS Montreal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; 1100 Notre-Dame St W, Montreal, QC H3C 1K3, C=
anada
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;Map: https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9wCVBJahaAL=
VA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Room A4458 (the room is inside the department=
)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; How to access: From ETS entrance, take the el=
evators that are next to the Cafeteria. Go to 4th floor and go to the depar=
tment of Software and IT Engineering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Registration:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm81b=
3d749f415e5456d8161b1db4eedba<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Agenda and Materials: https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-07/session/nmrg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.o=
rg/p/nmrg-interim-20190726<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; ** The meeting will focus on Intent Based Net=
working (IBN) and on making progress on the current work items, tentatively=
 covering:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Concepts definition and t=
erminology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Intent examples and valid=
ation scenarios, use cases<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Architecture: requirement=
s, principles, properties, functions/services, enablers, theory of operatio=
ns, interworking/integration with other frameworks, human-network
 interface...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;** Pleased come prepared:<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Read the active Internet =
Drafts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; https://=
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; https://=
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Think about examples of i=
ntents and how to validate them (on a scenario, on a logical flow, who are =
the actors/roles involved...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;** Schedule:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9h30-10h &nbsp; Welco=
me and coffee
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10h-12h &nbsp;&=
nbsp; Morning session
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;12h-13h &nbsp;&=
nbsp; Lunch break<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 13h-14h30 Afternoon s=
ession I<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14h30-15h Coffee brea=
k<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15h-16h30 Afternoon s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Introduction, Chairs<o:p=
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		 CALL FOR PAPERS - NOMS 2020
	IEEE/IFIP Network Operations and Management Symposium
		20-24 April 2020 // Budapest, Hungary
Management in the Age of Softwarization and Artificial Intelligence

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The 17th IEEE/IFIP Network Operations and Management Symposium (NOMS =
2020) will be held on 20-24 April 2020 in Budapest, Hungary. Held in =
even-numbered years since 1988, NOMS 2020 will follow the 32 years =
tradition of NOMS and IM as the primary IEEE Communications Society's =
forum for technical exchange on management of information and =
communication technology focusing on research, development, integration, =
standards, service provisioning, and user communities. The theme of NOMS =
2020 is Management in the Age of Softwarization and Artificial =
Intelligence. It aims to capture recent results, emerging approaches and =
technical solutions for dealing with management of Fixed and Mobile =
Networks and Services, Clouds, and Vertical Eco-Systems (e.g., smart =
cities and smart transportations, etc.) NOMS 2020 will offer various =
types of sessions: keynotes, technical, experience, demo, tutorial, =
poster, panel, and dissertation. Topics of interest include, but are not =
limited to, the following:

Management of Smart Vertical Systems in the Industry 4.0 Era
- Smart Cities, Smart Grid, Smart Homes, Smart Environment
- Internet of Things (IoT)
- 5G networking
- Social Networks
- Cyber-Physical Systems including techniques supported with Augmented =
Reality, Virtual Reality, Mixed Reality, Physical vs. Digital Twins
- Applications and case studies

Artificial Intelligence techniques for Network and Service Management
- Artificial Neural Networks
- Machine Learning & Deep Learning
- Big Data & Data Mining
- Mobile Agents
- AI vs. legacy optimization methods in management

Management of Softwarised Networks, SDN and NFV
- Network virtualization
- Network (data, control, management planes) programmability
- Slicing in 5G and Beyond=20
- Management & Orchestration (MANO)
- Service Function Chaining
- Protocols, languages and frameworks
- Open source networking=20
- Cloud native networking
- Case studies and practical deployments

Management Functional Areas
- FCAPS: Fault, Configuration, Accounting, Performance and Security =
Management
- Green operation & management
- Billing & Accounting
- Service Assurance
- Service Fulfillment
- Service Level Management

Network Management & Operational Experience
- Ad-hoc networks
- Automotive and vehicular networks
- Broadband access networks
- Cognitive radio networks
- e-Maintenance
- Future Internet
- Heterogeneous networks
- Home networks
- M2M networks
- OSS/BSS development
- Overlay networks
- Personal area networks
- Sensor networks
- Wireless & mobile networks

Service Management
- Business management
- Clouds
- Data center management
- Data service management=20
- Hosting
- Infrastructure as a Service, Management as a Service, Platform as a =
Service, Software as a Service
- IT service management
- Managed service provisioning
- Multimedia service management
- OTT service management
- Virtualized infrastructure management
- Security Management
- Intrusion detection, intrusion prevention, intrusion response
- Network security
- Security for peer-to-peer and overlay networks
- Security for smart X and large systems and critical infrastructures
- Privacy and anonymity
- Vulnerability management
- Early warning

Methodologies for Network Operations and Management
- Control theory
- Markov Chains and management
- Data collection and aggregation
- Design and simulation
- Economic/finance theories
- Experimental approaches
- Optimization theory
- Probability and stochastic processes, queuing theory
- Risk management
- Software engineering methodologies Visualization
- Management approaches for Quantum Networking

Management Approaches
- Management architectures
- Standard frameworks and systems
- Integrated management
- Autonomic and self-management
- Best practices and management standards
- Centralized management
- Distributed management
- Organizational aspects
- Policy-based management
- Process oriented management
- IT service management (ITSM)
- Process engineering and frameworks (ITIL, CobIT, RiskIT, ValIT)

PAPER SUBMISSION GUIDELINES
Authors are invited to submit original contributions written in English =
that have not been published or submitted for publication elsewhere. =
Technical papers must be formatted using the IEEE 2-column format and =
not exceed 8 pages (excluding references) for full paper submissions or =
not exceed 4 pages (excluding references) for poster/short paper =
submissions. All papers should be submitted through JEMS.

The authors of the best 15 technical papers will be invited to submit =
extended versions of their papers to a fast-track reviewed Wiley=C3=ADs =
International Journal of Network Management (IJNM) or IEEE =
Communications Magazine series on Telecom Software, Network =
Virtualization, Software Defined Networks

All submitted papers will be peer-reviewed. Accepted and presented =
papers will be published in the conference proceedings and submitted to =
IEEE Xplore.

IMPORTANT DATES
Paper Submission:  30 August 2019
Notification of Acceptance:  8 November 2019
Camera Ready:  12 January 2020

TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE CO-CHAIRS
Imen Grida Ben Yahia, Orange Labs, France
Alex Galis, UCL, UK
Istvan Godor, Ericsson, Hungary
Contact Email: tpc-chairs-noms2020@googlegroups.com =
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Heterogeneous networks<br class=3D"">- Home networks<br class=3D"">- M2M =
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Dear Colleagues,

This is an announcement of JNSM SI on Intelligent and Trustworthy Internet
Edge. Sorry if you had received multiple copies of the emails. The
information of the JNSM SI is given as follows:

JOURNAL OF NETWORK AND SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (SPRINGER)
SPECIAL ISSUE
Intelligent and Trustworthy Internet Edge
*** Submissions due: December 31, 2019 ***
https://www.springer.com/?SGWID=3D0-102-2-1338221-0
 [We encourage early submission, please check the open submission schedule
policy below.]

The emerging and the ever-growing functionality of Internet edges, where
physical and virtual things are connected to the network, are opening a
wide set of new opportunities, both for novel services/applications and
increased efficiency/scalability. These opportunities include locally
sharing information, collaborating, and generating/consuming a huge amount
of data, by involving a variety of entities, such as micro-data centers,
end devices, and resource-sufficient networking nodes. While Fog/Edge
Computing is usually expected to bring the resources, including storage and
computation closer to users (in comparison to Cloud Computing), a
significant effort is needed at the Internet edge to provide a trustworthy
computation edge networking environment able to support new computation
technologies. Indeed, distributed big data analytics, modern Machine
Learning (ML) technology, Artificial Intelligence (AI), real-time data
collection and processing, scalable and distributed security solutions such
as blockchain, and distributed secure data processing, may play a
significant role. Moreover, new networking technologies related to
Information-Centric Networking (ICN), Software-Defined Networking (SDN),
Network Function Virtualization (NFV), and network slicing have emerged as
the novel paradigms for fast and efficient delivering and retrieving data.
This triggers the convergence between the emerging networking concepts and
the new computation technologies to reach the vision of an intelligent and
trustworthy Internet edge.

In order to implement such trustworthy edge networks and services, several
operation and management challenges associated with intelligent and
trustworthy Internet edge need to be addressed. These challenges include:
trustworthy connectivity and network resource management for heterogeneous
networking (HetNet); security monitoring, measurement, and assessment to
ensure networking and management functions to protect data; effective ML
and computation models to consider different resources (storage,
networking, and computing), security requirements, and real-time
constraints; trustworthiness of data sources; in-network data processing
and aggregation, intelligent planning and decision models to handle
security and application requirements.
This special issue aims to bring together leading research on management
infrastructure, applications and the most recent advances in Internet
edge-based secure network management solutions. We hence encourage original
paper submissions, which have not been published or submitted for
publication elsewhere, from both academia and industry presenting novel
research addressing the aforementioned challenges.

Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:
-       Secure intelligent edge systems and networking
architectures/protocols to integrate storage, computation, and networking;
-       Secure intelligent coordination and networking between edge, fog,
and cloud;
-       Software architectures and toolkits for secure intelligent Internet
edge;
-       Trust management and networking among intelligent edges;
-       Intelligent and secure service function/computation chaining;
-       Secure NFV, SDN, and network slicing for distributed computations;
-       Secure ICN with/for edge-enabled Internet;
-       Secure in-network computation for future networks, inter-data
center networking and 5G;
-       Privacy management for intelligent Internet edge;
-       Accountability, reliability, and resiliency for intelligent
Internet edge;
-       Quality of Service/Experience and energy efficiency for secure
intelligent Internet edges;
-       Distributed AI with/for secure edge networking;
-       Distributed ML with enhanced data privacy, ownership, and
obfuscation;
-       Integrating Blockchain with distributed edges and Internet finance;
-       Data mining and big data analytics for security management in edge
networking;
-       Trustworthy data collection and processing for big data at the edge=
;
-       Privacy-preserving big data processing at the edge;
-       Emerging applications for intelligent secure Internet edge, such as
AR/VR, IoT, industrial IoT for Industry 4.0, 5G, cyber-physical systems,
smart cities, vehicular systems, healthcare;
-       Management framework for intelligent secure Internet edge;
-       Security performance monitoring, measurements, modelling, and
evaluations for intelligent Internet edge;
-       SDN/NFV security architectures and applications for Internet edge;
-       Security mechanisms in wireless SDN/NFV.

Planned Schedule
Open-submission schedule: in this special issue, we implement an =E2=80=9Co=
pen=E2=80=9D
submission approach, where we do not have a submission time period.
Interested authors can submit the paper any time before a fixed deadline,
and the review process will be started right after the paper submission,
i.e., in a first-in first-serve fashion. The detailed submission schedule
is presented as follows:
-       Manuscript due: December 31, 2019
-       Revision notification: 2-month after the submission
-       Revised paper due: 1.5-month after the revision notification
-       Final notification: 1-month after the revised paper notification
-       Expected Publication of the Special Issue: third-quarter of 2020
(early accepted papers will be accessible online before the deadline)

Submission Format and Review Guidelines
The submitted manuscripts must be written in English and describe original
research not published nor currently under review by other journals or
conferences. Parallel submissions will not be accepted. All submitted
papers, if relevant to the theme and objectives of the special issue, will
go through an external peer-review process. Submissions should (i) conform
strictly to the Instructions for Authors available on the JNSM website and
(ii) be submitted through the Editorial Management system available at
http://www.editorialmanager.com/jons.

Guest Editors of the Special Issue:
-       Dr. Dijiang Huang, Arizona State University, USA
Email: dijiang.huang@asu.edu
-       Dr. J=C3=A9ferson Campos Nobre, Federal University of Rio Grande do=
 Sul
(UFRGS), Brazil
Email: jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br
-       Dr. Ruidong Li, NICT, Japan
Email: lrd@nict.go.jp
-       Dr. Paolo Bellavista, DEIS, Universit=C3=A0 di Bologna, Italy
Email: paolo.bellavista@unibo.it
-       Dr. Abdelkader Lahmadi, University of Lorraine, France
Email: abdelkader.lahmadi@loria.fr

----------------------------------------------------
Prof. Dr. J=C3=A9ferson Campos Nobre
Instituto de Inform=C3=A1tica
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre
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mail=3D"gmail_signature">Dear Colleagues,<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<br>
This is an announcement of JNSM SI on Intelligent and Trustworthy Internet =
Edge. Sorry if you had received multiple copies of the emails. The informat=
ion of the JNSM SI is given as follows:<br>
<br>
JOURNAL OF NETWORK AND SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (SPRINGER)<br>
SPECIAL ISSUE<br>
Intelligent and Trustworthy Internet Edge<br>
*** Submissions due: December 31, 2019 ***<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.springer.com/?SGWID=3D0-102-2-1338221-0" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.springer.com/?SGWID=3D0-102-2-1338221=
-0</a><br>
=C2=A0[We encourage early submission, please check the open submission sche=
dule policy below.]<br>
<br>
The emerging and the ever-growing functionality of Internet edges, where ph=
ysical and virtual things are connected to the network, are opening a wide =
set of new opportunities, both for novel services/applications and increase=
d efficiency/scalability. These opportunities include locally sharing infor=
mation, collaborating, and generating/consuming a huge amount of data, by i=
nvolving a variety of entities, such as micro-data centers, end devices, an=
d resource-sufficient networking nodes. While Fog/Edge Computing is usually=
 expected to bring the resources, including storage and computation closer =
to users (in comparison to Cloud Computing), a significant effort is needed=
 at the Internet edge to provide a trustworthy computation edge networking =
environment able to support new computation technologies. Indeed, distribut=
ed big data analytics, modern Machine Learning (ML) technology, Artificial =
Intelligence (AI), real-time data collection and processing, scalable and d=
istributed security solutions such as blockchain, and distributed secure da=
ta processing, may play a significant role. Moreover, new networking techno=
logies related to Information-Centric Networking (ICN), Software-Defined Ne=
tworking (SDN), Network Function Virtualization (NFV), and network slicing =
have emerged as the novel paradigms for fast and efficient delivering and r=
etrieving data. This triggers the convergence between the emerging networki=
ng concepts and the new computation technologies to reach the vision of an =
intelligent and trustworthy Internet edge.<br>
<br>
In order to implement such trustworthy edge networks and services, several =
operation and management challenges associated with intelligent and trustwo=
rthy Internet edge need to be addressed. These challenges include: trustwor=
thy connectivity and network resource management for heterogeneous networki=
ng (HetNet); security monitoring, measurement, and assessment to ensure net=
working and management functions to protect data; effective ML and computat=
ion models to consider different resources (storage, networking, and comput=
ing), security requirements, and real-time constraints; trustworthiness of =
data sources; in-network data processing and aggregation, intelligent plann=
ing and decision models to handle security and application requirements. <b=
r>
This special issue aims to bring together leading research on management in=
frastructure, applications and the most recent advances in Internet edge-ba=
sed secure network management solutions. We hence encourage original paper =
submissions, which have not been published or submitted for publication els=
ewhere, from both academia and industry presenting novel research addressin=
g the aforementioned challenges.<br>
<br>
Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure intelligent edge systems and networking =
architectures/protocols to integrate storage, computation, and networking;<=
br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure intelligent coordination and networking =
between edge, fog, and cloud;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Software architectures and toolkits for secure =
intelligent Internet edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Trust management and networking among intellige=
nt edges;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Intelligent and secure service function/computa=
tion chaining;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure NFV, SDN, and network slicing for distri=
buted computations;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure ICN with/for edge-enabled Internet;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Secure in-network computation for future networ=
ks, inter-data center networking and 5G;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Privacy management for intelligent Internet edg=
e;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Accountability, reliability, and resiliency for=
 intelligent Internet edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Quality of Service/Experience and energy effici=
ency for secure intelligent Internet edges;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Distributed AI with/for secure edge networking;=
<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Distributed ML with enhanced data privacy, owne=
rship, and obfuscation;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Integrating Blockchain with distributed edges a=
nd Internet finance;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Data mining and big data analytics for security=
 management in edge networking;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Trustworthy data collection and processing for =
big data at the edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Privacy-preserving big data processing at the e=
dge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Emerging applications for intelligent secure In=
ternet edge, such as AR/VR, IoT, industrial IoT for Industry 4.0, 5G, cyber=
-physical systems, smart cities, vehicular systems, healthcare;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Management framework for intelligent secure Int=
ernet edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Security performance monitoring, measurements, =
modelling, and evaluations for intelligent Internet edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0SDN/NFV security architectures and applications=
 for Internet edge;<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Security mechanisms in wireless SDN/NFV.<br>
<br>
Planned Schedule<br>
Open-submission schedule: in this special issue, we implement an =E2=80=9Co=
pen=E2=80=9D submission approach, where we do not have a submission time pe=
riod. Interested authors can submit the paper any time before a fixed deadl=
ine, and the review process will be started right after the paper submissio=
n, i.e., in a first-in first-serve fashion. The detailed submission schedul=
e is presented as follows:<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Manuscript due: December 31, 2019<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Revision notification: 2-month after the submis=
sion<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Revised paper due: 1.5-month after the revision=
 notification<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Final notification: 1-month after the revised p=
aper notification<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Expected Publication of the Special Issue: thir=
d-quarter of 2020 (early accepted papers will be accessible online before t=
he deadline)<br>
<br>
Submission Format and Review Guidelines<br>
The submitted manuscripts must be written in English and describe original =
research not published nor currently under review by other journals or conf=
erences. Parallel submissions will not be accepted. All submitted papers, i=
f relevant to the theme and objectives of the special issue, will go throug=
h an external peer-review process. Submissions should (i) conform strictly =
to the Instructions for Authors available on the JNSM website and (ii) be s=
ubmitted through the Editorial Management system available at <a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.editorialmanager.com/jons" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.editorialmanager.com/jons</a>.<br>
<br>
Guest Editors of the Special Issue:<br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dr. Dijiang Huang, Arizona State University, US=
A<br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:dijiang.huang@asu.edu" target=3D"_blank">dijiang.h=
uang@asu.edu</a><br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dr. J=C3=A9ferson Campos Nobre, Federal Univers=
ity of Rio Grande do Sul (UFRGS), Brazil<br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br" target=3D"_blank">jcnobre@in=
f.ufrgs.br</a>=C2=A0 <br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dr. Ruidong Li, NICT, Japan <br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:lrd@nict.go.jp" target=3D"_blank">lrd@nict.go.jp</=
a><br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dr. Paolo Bellavista, DEIS, Universit=C3=A0 di =
Bologna, Italy<br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:paolo.bellavista@unibo.it" target=3D"_blank">paolo=
.bellavista@unibo.it</a><br>
-=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dr. Abdelkader Lahmadi, University of Lorraine,=
 France<br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:abdelkader.lahmadi@loria.fr" target=3D"_blank">abd=
elkader.lahmadi@loria.fr</a><br>
<br>----------------------------------------------------<br>Prof. Dr. J=C3=
=A9ferson Campos Nobre<br>Instituto de Inform=C3=A1tica<br>Universidade Fed=
eral do Rio Grande do Sul<br><a href=3D"http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre</a><br>------------------=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I took some time to read and le=
arn -02 version, which updated a lot of content from -01. I have below comm=
ents and questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 4.2.3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Summarized dif=
ferences:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A1=AD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; Policy is a set of rules, typically modele=
d around a variation of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; events/conditions/actions, used =
to express simple control loops<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that can be rendered by devices =
themselves, without requiring</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">=A1=AD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; o&nbsp; Intent is a higher-level declarative polic=
y that operates at the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; level of a network and services =
it provides, not individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; devices.&nbsp; It is used to def=
ine outcomes and high-level operational<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoCommentText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">IMOH, these =A1=B0summariz=
ed differences=A1=B1 may be still not clear enough as if we simplify these =
two sentences and put together, =A1=B0policy is xxx rules, intent is xxx po=
licy=A1=B1. In SUPA we defined two types of policy, imperative
 policy(ECA) and declarative policy (Intent policy). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoCommentText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In this doc, if intent pol=
icy is one kind of policy, you may need to change the definition of policy.=
 In addition, service may also be expressed in an =A1=B0intent=A1=B1 way, l=
ike =A1=B0service intent=A1=B1 at the end of this draft.
 If intent is going to be defined as a kind of policy, then shall we put =
=A1=B0service intent=A1=B1 as a subset of policy?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; One analogy to=
 capture the difference between policy and intent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; systems is tha=
t of Expert Systems and Learning Systems in the field<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; of Artificial =
Intelligence...</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From the description I know aut=
hors wanted to use analogy to describe the relationship, however, may lead =
to even more confusing if we compare policy - expert system vs intent - lea=
rning system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Single Source of Truth (<a name=3D"OLE_LINK1">SSoT</a>) and
<a name=3D"OLE_LINK8">Single Version/View of Truth</a><o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; (SVoT).</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The paragraph of SSoT and SVoT =
was new, however, is this necessary principle as there was no related info =
in the two figures in section 6 and other parts of the doc.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; One t=
ouch but not one shot. &nbsp;<span style=3D"background:yellow;mso-highlight=
:yellow">In an ideal intent-based system, the<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; user expresses its intents=
 in one form or another and then the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; system takes over all subs=
equent operations (one touch).</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;
<span style=3D"background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">A zero-<o:p></o:p></=
span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; touch approach could also =
be imagined in case where the intent-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; based system has the capab=
ilities or means to recognize<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; intentions in any form of =
data.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;
 However, the zero- or one-touch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; approach should not be mistaken the fact that reaching the state<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; of a well-formed and valid intent expression is not a one-shot<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; process.&nbsp; On the contrary,
<span style=3D"background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">the interfacing betw=
een the user and<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the intent-based system co=
uld be designed as
<a name=3D"OLE_LINK7">an interactive and<o:p></o:p></a></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; interactive process</span>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier Ne=
w&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">.</span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;
 Depending on the level of abstraction, the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoCommentText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A1=B0One touch but not on=
e shot=A1=B1, I can guess the meaning. However, as a non-native speaker, I =
am not sure &nbsp;as I searched in google there is no other article writing=
 in this way. Is this term invented by this doc?
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:Wingdings">J</span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As the concept of =A1=AEzero-to=
uch=A1=AF was not defined in this doc or referred to any existing publicati=
on, I am not sure why =A1=AErecognize intentions in any form of data=A1=AF =
can support =A1=AEZero-touch=A1=AF. And what is the difference between
 one-touch and zero-touch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoCommentText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A1=B0an interactive and i=
nteractive process=A1=B1, typo?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Autonomy an=
d Oversight.&nbsp; A desirable goal for an intent-based<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; system is to offer a high degree of flexibility and freedom on<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">=A1=AD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&n=
bsp;to be added: description for feedback, reporting,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; guarantee scope (check points, guard rails, dynamically<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; provisioned, context rich, regular operation vs. exception/<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; abnormal, information zoom in-out, and link to SVoT=A1=AD<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=A1=B0to be added=A1=AD=A1=B1, =
I guess this part is editor note?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5.&nbsp; Expla=
inability.&nbsp; Need expressive network capabilities,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; requirements and constraints to be able to compose/decompose<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; intents, map user's expectation to system capabilities.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;
<span style=3D"background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">capability exposure.=
&nbsp; not just automation of steps that need to<o:p></o:p></span></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be taken, but of bridging =
the semantic gap between &quot;intent&quot; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; actionable levels of instr=
uctions Context: multi providers, need<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; discovery and semantic des=
criptions Explainability: why is a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:=
yellow">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; network doing what it is d=
oing</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This paragraph seem to be diffi=
cult to read as some sentences (from third one) are not complete.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have a couple of comments and=
 questions to the two figures in section 6, and will try to provide in next=
 email.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,&nbsp; / </span><span s=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Shucheng LIU (Will, </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C1=F5=CA=F7=B3=C9</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">), Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span lang=3D"EN-US">Director of Standard Area<o:=
p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span lang=3D"EN-US">Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd<=
o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:liushuchen=
g@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">liushucheng@huawei.com</span></=
a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://www.linked=
in.com/in/shucheng"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">http://www.linkedin.com/i=
n/shucheng</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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The side meeting is planned on Tuesday 23/07 8:30-9:45am in room Sainte-Catherine 
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On 15/07/2019 11:03, Jérôme François wrote:
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> Following the meeting we had in IETF104/Prague, we propose to have another side 
> meeting to discuss AI in/for/* network management in Montreal (date and time 
> TBC)  to continue our discussion and refine our views on potential application 
> of AI and on the "network AI challenge".
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CALL FOR PAPERS - ICIN 2020

23rd Conference on Innovation in Clouds, Internet and Networks

"*Beyond 5G: building network sense*"

February 24-27, 2020 - Paris, France


_https://www.icin-conference.org <https://www.icin-conference.org/>_


Technically sponsored by IEEE, IEEE Communications Society

All accepted and presented papers will be published in IEEE Xplore Digital Library


The best papers presented at the conference will be invited to submit an extended

version for fast-track review in the following journals:

- IEEE Communications Magazine (Impact Factor: 10.356)

- IEEE Transactions on Network Service and Management (Impact Factor: 4.682)

- MDPI Sensors (Impact Factor: 3.031)

*********************************************************************************

IMPORTANT DATES


Paper Submission: October 4th, 2019

Paper Acceptance Notification: December 2nd, 2019

Camera-Ready Papers: January 13th, 2020


LINK TO SUBMISSION PAGE


_https://edas.info/N26190_


*********************************************************************************

The ICIN conference, established in 1989 and praised for the high quality of its

technical program and richness of its social networking, is also recognized for

its continuous adaptation to emerging technical trends.


The year 2020 will be a keystone in the evolution toward the networks of the

future, with the first commercial deployments of large-scale 5G infrastructures,

the increasing interest in network intelligence and machine learning techniques

applied to network management and orchestration, the progress of precision

networking technologies toward low-latency services, and the end of the Horizon

2020 research framework program in Europe superseded by the next Horizon Europe.


In this scenario and considering the many challenges that the aforementioned

paradigms and technologies will bring, ICIN 2020 will focus on:


“Beyond 5G: building network sense”


The conference will foster new ideas and novel approaches to future service

delivery in a smart network environment, able to show what could be qualified as

sense, “a sane and realistic attitude to situations and problems”, according to

Oxford Dictionary. With this vision, the conference will look beyond the current

state of the art and promote the advances of network management and orchestration

technologies.


ICIN 2020 aims at providing an international forum for researchers and

practitioners from academia, industry, network operators, and service providers

to discuss and address the challenges posed by innovation in clouds, Internet and

networks. Interested authors are invited to submit papers presenting novel

technical studies as well as broader position and visionary papers. Contributions

that discuss lessons learnt and best practices, describe practical deployment and

implementation experiences, and demonstrate innovative use-cases are especially

encouraged.


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ICIN 2020 solicits original, unpublished work not currently under review by other

conferences or journals. Papers submitted to ICIN 2020 will be assessed based on

originality, technical soundness, clarity and interest to a wide audience. All

submissions must be written in English and must use standard IEEE two-column

conference template, available for download from the IEEE website:


_https://www.ieee.org/conferences/publishing/templates.html_


Only PDF files will be accepted for the review process and all submissions must

be done electronically through EDAS using the following link:


_https://edas.info/N26190_


Technical papers can be of two types: full papers or short papers, up to 8 pages

and 5 pages respectively, including tables, figures and references. Demo papers

of length of 3 pages are also solicited.


At least one author is required to register, at the full rate, to present

accepted papers at the conference and for the paper to appear in the conference

proceedings.


The best technical papers presented at the conference will be invited to submit

an extended version for fast-track review in the following journals:

- IEEE Transactions on Network Service and Management (Impact Factor: 4.682)

- MDPI Sensors (Impact Factor: 3.031)

Extended versions of ICIN 2020 papers must include at least 30% of new material

(algorithms, results, related work) compared to the conference version.

Particularly innovative and visionary papers will be invited to submit a

tutorial-style, magazine version for fast-track review in:

- IEEE Communications Magazine (Impact Factor: 10.356)


Areas of interest and topics include, but are not limited to:


- Cloud and networking aspects of IoT, 5G, and beyond

* Vertical industries and digital twins

* Automotive and vehicular networking, including vehicular cloud services

* Tactile Internet and precision networking

* Protocols for ultra-low latency and ultra-high reliability

* Fog, edge and multi-access computing and networking

* Security, trust and privacy, especially applied to IoT and 5G networks

- Enablers and services for 5G networks: from experiments to reality and beyond

* 5G network architecture, services, protocols, and use cases

* Service-Based Architecture (SBA) design applied to the control plane,

data plane and management plane

* 5G functional decomposition and composition

* Advanced 5G infrastructure slicing

* Scalability and multi-tenancy in 5G networks and 5G network slicing

- Network automation and orchestration architectures and protocols

* Intent-based network management and cloud resource orchestration

* Network programmability architectures and systems

* Orchestration of distributed cloud and network resources in vertical markets

* Network artificial intelligence, machine learning and reasoning

* Network data analytics, anomaly detection, and feature extraction

* Autonomic and cognitive networking

* Societal and legal aspects of network automation

- Technologies for innovation in clouds, Internet and networks

* Software Defined Networking (SDN)

* Network Function Virtualization (NFV)

* Service function chaining, function placement and network embedding

* Big data and fast data processing and management

* Use of Distributed Ledger Technologies in networking and network services

* CDN architectures and network cache allocation schemes

* Advanced multimedia and real-time communications, QoS/QoE design

* Lightweight virtualization technologies, software and hardware acceleration

* Performance, optimization and resource dimensioning

* Energy-efficient software-defined infrastructures

* Measurement, monitoring and telemetry

* Testbeds, open-source projects and open standards


**********************************************************************************

General Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Bruno Chatras (Orange, France)

Diego Lopez (Telefónica, Spain)



Technical Program Committee Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Shingo Ata (Osaka City University, Japan)

Walter Cerroni (University of Bologna, Italy)



Keynotes and Panels Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Alex Galis (University College London, UK)

Dirk Kutscher (University of Applied Sciences Emden/Leer, Germany)



Workshops Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Eduard Grasa (i2CAT Foundation, Spain)

Eduardo Jacob (University of the Basque Country, Spain)



Tutorials Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Barbara Martini (CNIT, Italy)

Rogier Noldus (Ericsson, The Netherlands)



Demo Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Bessem Sayadi (Nokia, France)

Pierre Lynch (Keysight, Canada)



Publication Chair

---------------------------

Piotr Borylo (AGH, Poland)



Publicity Co-Chairs

---------------------------

Lei Shu (Nanjing Agricultural University, China)

Xiaodi Huang (Charles Sturt University, Australia)

Jérôme François (INRIA, France)

Muge Sayit (Ege University, Turkey)



Patrons Chair

---------------------------

Jeremie Leguay (Huawei, France)



Finance Chair

---------------------------

Guy Pujolle (DNAC, France)



International Steering Committee Chair

---------------------------

Noel Crespi (IMT, France)



Overall Arrangements

---------------------------

Aziza Lounis (DNAC, France)



Web Chair

---------------------------

Elia Kallas (DNAC, France)



We are looking forward to your submission to ICIN 2020


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For further information, see _https://www.icin-conference.org 
<https://www.icin-conference.org/>_

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    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">its
            continuous adaptation to emerging technical trends.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">The
            year 2020 will be a keystone in the evolution toward the
            networks of
            the </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">future,
            with the first commercial deployments of large-scale 5G
            infrastructures,</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">the
            increasing interest in network intelligence and machine
            learning
            techniques</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">applied
            to network management and orchestration, the progress of
            precision </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">networking
            technologies toward low-latency services, and the end of the
            Horizon</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">2020
            research framework program in Europe superseded by the next
            Horizon
            Europe.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">In
            this scenario and considering the many challenges that the
            aforementioned </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">paradigms
            and technologies will bring, ICIN 2020 will focus on:</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">“<font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Beyond
            5G: building network sense”</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">The
            conference will foster new ideas and novel approaches to
            future
            service </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">delivery
            in a smart network environment, able to show what could be
            qualified
            as</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">sense,
            “a sane and realistic attitude to situations and problems”,
            according to </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Oxford
            Dictionary. With this vision, the conference will look
            beyond the
            current </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">state
            of the art and promote the advances of network management
            and
            orchestration</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">technologies.
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">ICIN
            2020 aims at providing an international forum for
            researchers and </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">practitioners
            from academia, industry, network operators, and service
            providers </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">to
            discuss and address the challenges posed by innovation in
            clouds,
            Internet and</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">networks.
            Interested authors are invited to submit papers presenting
            novel </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">technical
            studies as well as broader position and visionary papers.
            Contributions</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">that
            discuss lessons learnt and best practices, describe
            practical
            deployment and</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">implementation
            experiences, and demonstrate innovative use-cases are
            especially </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">encouraged.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">**********************************************************************************</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">ICIN
            2020 solicits original, unpublished work not currently under
            review
            by other</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">conferences
            or journals. Papers submitted to ICIN 2020 will be assessed
            based on </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">originality,
            technical soundness, clarity and interest to a wide
            audience. All </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">submissions
            must be written in English and must use standard IEEE
            two-column </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">conference
            template, available for download from the IEEE website:</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        color="#0563c1"><u><a
            href="https://www.ieee.org/conferences/publishing/templates.html"><font
              face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size:
                12pt" size="3"><span lang="en-US">https://www.ieee.org/conferences/publishing/templates.html</span></font></font></a></u></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <font face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Only
            PDF files will be accepted for the review process and all
            submissions
            must </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">be
            done electronically through EDAS using the following link:</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        color="#0563c1"><u><a href="https://edas.info/N26190"><font
              face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size:
                12pt" size="3"><span lang="en-US">https://edas.info/N26190</span></font></font></a></u></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Technical
            papers can be of two types: full papers or short papers, up
            to 8
            pages</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">and
            5 pages respectively, including tables, figures and
            references. Demo
            papers </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">of
            length of 3 pages are also solicited.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">At
            least one author is required to register, at the full rate,
            to
            present </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">accepted
            papers at the conference and for the paper to appear in the
            conference </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">proceedings.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">The
            best technical papers presented at the conference will be
            invited to
            submit </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">an
            extended version for fast-track review in the following
            journals: </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
          </span></font></font>IEEE Transactions on Network Service and
      Management (Impact Factor: 4.682) </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
          </span></font></font>MDPI Sensors (Impact Factor: 3.031)</p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Extended
            versions of ICIN 2020 papers must include at least 30% of
            new
            material </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">(algorithms,
            results, related work) compared to the conference version.</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Particularly
            innovative and visionary papers will be invited to submit a
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">tutorial-style,
            magazine version for fast-track review in:</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
            IEEE Communications Magazine (Impact Factor: </span></font></font>10.356<font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Areas
            of interest and topics include, but are not limited to:</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
            Cloud and networking aspects of IoT, 5G, and beyond</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Vertical industries and digital twins</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Automotive and vehicular networking, including vehicular
            cloud
            services</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Tactile Internet and precision networking</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Protocols for ultra-low latency and ultra-high reliability</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Fog, edge and multi-access computing and networking</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Security, trust and privacy, especially applied to IoT and
            5G
            networks</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
            Enablers and services for 5G networks: from experiments to
            reality
            and beyond</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            5G network architecture, services, protocols, and use cases</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Service-Based Architecture (SBA) design applied to the
            control plane,
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">data
            plane and management plane</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            5G functional decomposition and composition</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Advanced 5G infrastructure slicing</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Scalability and multi-tenancy in 5G networks and 5G network
            slicing</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
            Network automation and orchestration architectures and
            protocols</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Intent-based network management and cloud resource
            orchestration</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Network programmability architectures and systems</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Orchestration of distributed cloud and network resources in
            vertical
            markets</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Network artificial intelligence, machine learning and
            reasoning</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Network data analytics, anomaly detection, and feature
            extraction</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Autonomic and cognitive networking</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Societal and legal aspects of network automation</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">-
            Technologies for innovation in clouds, Internet and networks</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Software Defined Networking (SDN)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Network Function Virtualization (NFV)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Service function chaining, function placement and network
            embedding</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Big data and fast data processing and management</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Use of Distributed Ledger Technologies in networking and
            network
            services</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            CDN architectures and network cache allocation schemes</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Advanced multimedia and real-time communications, QoS/QoE
            design</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Lightweight virtualization technologies, software and
            hardware
            acceleration</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Performance, optimization and resource dimensioning</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Energy-efficient software-defined infrastructures</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Measurement, monitoring and telemetry</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"> <font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">*
            Testbeds, open-source projects and open standards</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">**********************************************************************************</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">General
            Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Bruno
            Chatras (Orange, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Diego
            Lopez (Telefónica, Spain)</span></font></font></p>
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      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Technical
            Program Committee Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Shingo
            Ata (Osaka City University, Japan)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Walter
            Cerroni (University of Bologna, Italy)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Keynotes
            and Panels Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Alex
            Galis (University College London, UK)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Dirk
            Kutscher (University of Applied Sciences Emden/Leer,
            Germany)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Workshops
            Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Eduard
            Grasa (i2CAT Foundation, Spain)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Eduardo
            Jacob (University of the Basque Country, Spain)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Tutorials
            Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Barbara
            Martini (CNIT, Italy)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Rogier
            Noldus (Ericsson, The Netherlands)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Demo
            Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Bessem
            Sayadi (Nokia, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Pierre
            Lynch (Keysight, Canada)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Publication
            Chair</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Piotr
            Borylo (AGH, Poland)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Publicity
            Co-Chairs</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Lei
            Shu (Nanjing Agricultural University, China)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Xiaodi
            Huang (Charles Sturt University, Australia)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Jérôme
            François (INRIA, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Muge
            Sayit (Ege University, Turkey)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Patrons
            Chair</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Jeremie
            Leguay (Huawei, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Finance
            Chair</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Guy
            Pujolle (DNAC, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">International
            Steering Committee Chair</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------
          </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Noel
            Crespi (IMT, France) </span></font></font>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Overall
            Arrangements</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Aziza
            Lounis (DNAC, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Web
            Chair</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">---------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">Elia
            Kallas (DNAC, France)</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
          size="3"><span lang="en-US">We
            are looking forward to your submission to ICIN 2020</span></font></font></p>
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    </p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
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          size="3"><span lang="en-US">------------------------------------------------------------</span></font></font></p>
    <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%"><font
        face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font style="font-size: 12pt"
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From: "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
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Hello NMRG,

For our workshop on Friday, I would like to share and stress one aspect I w=
ould like us to investigate and exercise. This is the aspect of intent exam=
ples.

I would invite each of the participants to think and propose one or more ex=
amples of intents.
We will then run through a set of questions and "tests" to see if/how far w=
e can go with the proposed intent examples: are some "parts" missing, incom=
plete, too approximative? Are the functions we are thinking of in the archi=
tecture enough to transform the proposed intents to the required level of o=
utput (e.g. configurations), are we missing some functionality to achieve t=
he process or some capabilities to make the functionality complete, etc
Also, what are the commonalities and differences we could identify between =
the different intent examples proposed, how does it help on the work of int=
ent classification, is it consistent or points to aspects we have overlooke=
d?
Who are the actors/roles involved e.g. expressing intent, validating intent=
, mapping/translating/rendering, etc.
These examples could be linked to simple use cases or technologies to help =
us better grasp the exercise and help us validate the approach.

I strongly believe this will help us to move forward in the several activit=
ies we are engaging on intent based networking: terminology, classification=
, architecture, validation scenarios, human-network interface...

As starting point, after some search and thinking  I could come up with the=
 following proposal/basis, for discussion:
Intents are composed of: a functional and an operational part. The function=
al part consist in the expression of the business goal, the expected outcom=
e. The operation part captures the performance parameters such as network/c=
ompute/memory, time, space/topology ; security ; availability, etc. Units, =
metrics and value/value ranges may also be specified.
I don't know if cost or cost vs. x,y,z ratio should be considered in the in=
tent expression.
We can also consider aspect of logic and operators, semantics... but we hav=
e to set some scope also first not to get lost in the complexity.

I think getting towards such "structures" could help us defining guidelines=
 how to write intents and systems to parse them without imposing a single f=
ormat or language.

I'm also deeply convinced that the intent "expression/refinement" process s=
hould edge towards continuous, iterative and interactive process rather tha=
n one shot intent expression.

We can also try to characterize different categories of intent (and use the=
 corresponding draft as a support): business intents: end-users and operato=
rs: both have business intents for the system under study but have/are in d=
ifferent businesses.

Food for thoughts.
Best regards, Laurent.


From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:21
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org; Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca
Subject: NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - ETS Mon=
treal

Hello,

Details for the NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - =
ETS Montreal are available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-inte=
rim-2019-nmrg-07-nmrg-01/02/
and copied below for your convenience.


@Participants:
 . Please come prepared, read the drafts, think about intent examples, vali=
dation scenarios - for a fruitful meeting. This will not be presentation-fo=
cused !
. if you have specific topic for discussion and/or presentation, please inf=
orm the chairs.

The chairs would like to thank ETS Montreal, and particularly Mohamed-Faten=
 Zhani, for hosting us (again) in such good conditions!

Looking forward to meet you at IETF 105 and at the workshop.
Thank you, best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.
---


NMRG 55th meeting
Interim meeting, ETS Montreal, Canada
Friday 26-07-2019 09:30-16:30 EDT


* RG Chair:
   Laurent Ciavaglia <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com<mailto:laurent.ciavaglia@=
nokia.com>>
   J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois <jerome.francois@inria.fr<mailto:jerome.francois@i=
nria.fr>>


* Meeting Location:
  =C9TS Montreal
  1100 Notre-Dame St W, Montreal, QC H3C 1K3, Canada
  Map: https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9wCVBJahaALVA
  4th Floor
  Department of Software and IT Engineering
  Room A4458 (the room is inside the department)
  How to access: From ETS entrance, take the elevators that are next to the=
 Cafeteria. Go to 4th floor and go to the department of Software and IT Eng=
ineering.


* Registration:
  Participation is free, registration is appreciated: https://doodle.com/po=
ll/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f


* Remote participation:
  https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm81b3d749f415e5456d8161b1db4eedb=
a


* Useful links:
   Agenda and Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-=
nmrg-07/session/nmrg
   Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190726


* Agenda:
  ** The meeting will focus on Intent Based Networking (IBN) and on making =
progress on the current work items, tentatively covering:
     - Concepts definition and terminology
     - Intent examples and validation scenarios, use cases
     - Architecture: requirements, principles, properties, functions/servic=
es, enablers, theory of operations, interworking/integration with other fra=
meworks, human-network interface...


  ** Pleased come prepared:
     - Read the active Internet Drafts
       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/
         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classificati=
on/
         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/

     - Think about examples of intents and how to validate them (on a scena=
rio, on a logical flow, who are the actors/roles involved...)


  ** Schedule:
      9h30-10h   Welcome and coffee
       10h-12h    Morning session
       12h-13h    Lunch break
      13h-14h30 Afternoon session I
      14h30-15h Coffee break
      15h-16h30 Afternoon session II


  ** Agenda items: (to be announced)
     1. Introduction, Chairs
     2. ...
     3. ...
     4. ...
     5. ...










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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Hello NMRG,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">For our workshop on Friday, I would li=
ke to share and stress one aspect I would like us to investigate and exerci=
se. This is the aspect of intent examples.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">I would invite each of the participant=
s to think and propose one or more examples of intents.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">We will then run through a set of ques=
tions and &quot;tests&quot; to see if/how far we can go with the proposed i=
ntent examples: are some &quot;parts&quot; missing, incomplete, too
 approximative? Are the functions we are thinking of in the architecture en=
ough to transform the proposed intents to the required level of output (e.g=
. configurations), are we missing some functionality to achieve the process=
 or some capabilities to make the
 functionality complete, etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Also, what are the commonalities and d=
ifferences we could identify between the different intent examples proposed=
, how does it help on the work of intent classification,
 is it consistent or points to aspects we have overlooked?<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Who are the actors/roles involved e.g.=
 expressing intent, validating intent, mapping/translating/rendering, etc.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">These examples could be linked to simp=
le use cases or technologies to help us better grasp the exercise and help =
us validate the approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">I strongly believe this will help us t=
o move forward in the several activities we are engaging on intent based ne=
tworking: terminology, classification, architecture,
 validation scenarios, human-network interface&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">As starting point, after some search a=
nd thinking&nbsp; I could come up with the following proposal/basis, for di=
scussion:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Intents are composed of: a functional =
and an operational part. The functional part consist in the expression of t=
he business goal, the expected outcome. The operation
 part captures the performance parameters such as network/compute/memory, t=
ime, space/topology ; security ; availability, etc. Units, metrics and valu=
e/value ranges may also be specified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">I don't know if cost or cost vs. x,y,z=
 ratio should be considered in the intent expression.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">We can also consider aspect of logic a=
nd operators, semantics&#8230; but we have to set some scope also first not=
 to get lost in the complexity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">I think getting towards such &quot;str=
uctures&quot; could help us defining guidelines how to write intents and sy=
stems to parse them without imposing a single format or
 language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">I'm also deeply convinced that the int=
ent &quot;expression/refinement&quot; process should edge towards continuou=
s, iterative and interactive process rather than one shot
 intent expression.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">We can also try to characterize differ=
ent categories of intent (and use the corresponding draft as a support): bu=
siness intents: end-users and operators: both
 have business intents for the system under study but have/are in different=
 businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Food for thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D">Best regards, Laurent.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa=
clay) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:21<br>
<b>To:</b> nmrg@irtf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nmrg-chairs@irtf.org; Mohamed-Faten.Zhani@etsmtl.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - =
ETS Montreal<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Details for the
<b>NMRG Interim meeting aka IBN workshop - Friday July 26th - ETS Montreal =
a</b>re available at:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-07-nmr=
g-01/02/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-nmrg-07-nmrg-01/02/</a=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">and copied below for your convenience.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Courier New&quot;,serif">@Participants:
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;. Please come prepared, read the drafts, think=
 about intent examples, validation scenarios &#8211; for a fruitful meeting=
. This will not be presentation-focused !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">. if you have specific topic for discussion and/or p=
resentation, please inform the chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">The chairs would like to thank ETS Montreal, and par=
ticularly Mohamed-Faten Zhani, for hosting us (again) in such good conditio=
ns!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Looking forward to meet you at IETF 105 and at the w=
orkshop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Thank you, best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">NMRG 55th meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Interim meeting, ETS Montreal, Canada<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">Friday 26-07-2019 09:30-16:30 EDT<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* RG Chair:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Laurent Ciavaglia &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com">laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courie=
r New&quot;,serif">J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerome.franc=
ois@inria.fr">jerome.francois@inria.fr</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Meeting Location:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; =C9TS Montreal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; 1100 Notre-Dame St W, Montreal, QC H3C 1K3, C=
anada
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;Map:
<a href=3D"https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9wCVBJahaALVA">https://goo.gl/maps/kGDP9=
wCVBJahaALVA</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; 4th Floor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Department of Software and IT Engineering<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Room A4458 (the room is inside the department=
)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; How to access: From ETS entrance, take the el=
evators that are next to the Cafeteria. Go to 4th floor and go to the depar=
tment of Software and IT Engineering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Registration:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; Participation is free, registration is apprec=
iated:
<a href=3D"https://doodle.com/poll/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f">https://doodle.com/pol=
l/vwysqkq4h34w6c5f</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Remote participation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<a href=3D"https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm81b3d749f415e5456d8161=
b1db4eedba">
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm81b3d749f415e5456d8161b1db4eedba<=
/a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Useful links:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Agenda and Materials:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-07/sessio=
n/nmrg">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-07/session/nmrg</a><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp; Etherpad:
<a href=3D"https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190726">https:/=
/etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190726</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">* Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp; ** The meeting will focus on Intent Based Net=
working (IBN) and on making progress on the current work items, tentatively=
 covering:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Concepts definition and t=
erminology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Intent examples and valid=
ation scenarios, use cases<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Architecture: requirement=
s, principles, properties, functions/services, enablers, theory of operatio=
ns, interworking/integration with other frameworks, human-network
 interface...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;** Pleased come prepared:<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Read the active Internet =
Drafts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/">=
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/</a><o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classifica=
tion/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification=
/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework=
/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework/</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Think about examples of i=
ntents and how to validate them (on a scenario, on a logical flow, who are =
the actors/roles involved...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;** Schedule:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9h30-10h &nbsp; Welco=
me and coffee
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10h-12h &nbsp;&=
nbsp; Morning session
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;12h-13h &nbsp;&=
nbsp; Lunch break<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 13h-14h30 Afternoon s=
ession I<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14h30-15h Coffee brea=
k<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15h-16h30 Afternoon s=
ession II<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;** Agenda items: (to be announced)<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Introduction, Chairs<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. ...<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. ...<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. ...<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. ...<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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Dear NMRG,

The minutes of NMRG54 / IETF105 meeting are available:

  *   On the IETF datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/mat=
erials/minutes-105-nmrg-00
  *   On the Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-nmrg
  *   Attached for your convenience.

Comments, addition and correction are most welcome.

Thanks to Pedro for the notes and Will relaying on Meetecho.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Dear NMRG,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">The minutes of NMRG54 / IETF105 meeting are available:<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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">On the IETF datatracker:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/minutes-105-n=
mrg-00">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/minutes-105-nmrg-00</a><=
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quot;Courier New&quot;">On the Etherpad:
<a href=3D"https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-nmrg">https://etherpa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Comments, addition and correction are most welcome.<o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Thanks to Pedro for the notes and Will relaying on Meetech=
o.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;">Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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Dear NMRG,

The minutes of NMRG55 interil meeting are available:

  *   On the IETF datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-int=
erim-2019-nmrg-07-201907260930/00/
  *   On the Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190=
726
  *   Attached for your convenience.

Comments, addition and correction are most welcome.

Thanks to Faten for the notes and hosting us at the ETS.

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.


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urier New&quot;">Dear NMRG,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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">On the IETF datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim=
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"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">On the Etherpad: htt=
ps://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/nmrg-interim-20190726<o:p></o:p></span></li>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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Dear all,

This is the poll for the next NMRG Virtual Meeting in September 2019.

Meeting details:
- Duration: 2 hours
- Location: NMRG Webex
- Date: please fill in the doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/vd62wbwdw6zcmu66

Please reply to the doodle poll by Monday, August 12th 2019.

Thank you.
Best regards.
J=C3=A9ferson (NMRG co-secretary)

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