From nobody Mon Nov 4 06:41:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DF81200A4; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:41:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cBbjiO7pfZC5; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB2E412018B; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:41:36 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.68,267,1569276000"; d="scan'208";a="325540971" Received: from eduroam-64-100.loria.fr (HELO [152.81.64.100]) ([152.81.64.100]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 04 Nov 2019 15:41:34 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= To: "nmrg@irtf.org" Cc: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" References: <12b9da8d-47dd-9058-4608-66be10dd202e@inria.fr> Message-ID: <10f7493f-6df8-c4bd-9322-4c443130b145@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:41:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <12b9da8d-47dd-9058-4608-66be10dd202e@inria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG Session 2 at IETF 106 / Singapore / November 2019 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 14:41:40 -0000 Dear all, In addition to regular NMRG session, we propose to have a side meeting on the AI topic in NMRG similarly to what have been done in IETF 104. The aim is to continue on identifying challenges as we started to do last time (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-nmrg-sessa-ai-for-nm-01.pdf). If you are intersted,  please fill out the following doodle (we'll use one of the morning slot at 8:30) https://doodle.com/poll/t6eixa7he25hyr5g Best regards NMRG chairs Jérôme & Laurent On 23/10/2019 13:51, Jérôme François wrote: > Dear all, > > We will have two NMRG sessions in IETF 106 planned as below (subject to changes): > > - Session 1: Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 (local time) > - Session 2: Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 – 13:50 (local time) > > Session 2 will be dedicated to the following topics > 1) NMRG recharter > 2) Network AI challenge > 3) Artificial intelligence for networking and network for AI > > For item 3), we kindly invite you to submit presentations in the area of using > artificial intelligence for network or leveraging network to support AI with the > objective to start seeing what could be a proposed roadmap to this area in the > context of IRTF. Below is the list of topics to be considered accordingly: > - AI-based architectures (centralized/distributed AI, offline/realtime AI...) > - Requirements to apply AI for networking and gap analysis (what is missing to > apply more efficiently AI for network) > - AI-enabled functional components for networking highlighting why we need AI > and if the particularity of network make the use of AI different than in other > areas > - Network technologies to support AI (can AI benefit from advances in networking > technologies?) > - Data models and datasets to be proposed for relevant use cases > > In all cases, we are expecting some feedback about the challenges you have been > faced when developing an approach using AI. > We also would like to bring more attendants from other communities in regards to > this topic. So, if you know somebody who could be interested to join in, please > make some publicity knowing that remote participation is free. > > Please reply to chairs with your proposals by Thursday, October 31st 2019. > > Best regards > Jérôme & Laurent > NMRG chairs > > --- > [1]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-intent-driven-networks-some-challenges-and-research-directions > [2]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-08-sessa-towards-an-intent-lifecycle > [3]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-nmrg-update-on-ibn-concepts-lifecycle-and-functionality-00.pdf > > From nobody Thu Nov 7 04:29:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B076412020A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 04:29:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c_euUPSrGDmM for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 04:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56F3120178 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 04:29:10 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.68,278,1569276000"; d="scan'208";a="325978487" Received: from tadam.loria.fr (HELO [152.81.3.52]) ([152.81.3.52]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 07 Nov 2019 13:29:08 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= To: nmrg@irtf.org Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 13:28:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: fr Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] CFP ICIN 2020 - Keynotes and journal publication announced - Submissions by Nov. 15, 2019 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 12:29:14 -0000 (Apologies if you received duplicate copies of this CFP) 23rd Conference on Innovation in Clouds, Internet and Networks (ICIN 2020) February 24-27, 2020 - Paris, France --> Keynote speakers announced <-- * A Speed of Light Internet Service Provider   Prof. Bruce Maggs - Duke University USA * Network Operations and AI   Dr. Rafia Inam – Ericsson Sweden * Softwarization and IoT evolution   Prof. Lefteris Mamatas - University of Macedonia Greece --> Journal publication <-- The best papers presented at the conference will be invited to submit an extended version for fast-track review in the following journals:     - IEEE Communications Magazine (Impact Factor: 10.356)     - IEEE Transactions on Network Service and Management (Impact Factor: 4.682)     - MDPI Sensors (Impact Factor: 3.031) ********************************************************************************** CALL FOR PAPERS - ICIN 2020 23rd Conference on Innovation in Clouds, Internet and Networks February 24-27, 2020 - Paris, France https://www.icin-conference.org Technically sponsored by IEEE, IEEE Communications Society In cooperation with ACM SIGMOBILE All accepted and presented papers will be published in IEEE Xplore Digital Library. IMPORTANT DATES Paper Submission: November 15th, 2019 (EXTENDED) Paper Acceptance Notification: December 15th, 2019 Camera-Ready Papers: January 13th, 2020 LINK TO SUBMISSION PAGE https://edas.info/N26190 ********************************************************************************* The ICIN conference, established in 1989 and praised for the high quality of its technical program and richness of its social networking, is also recognized for its continuous adaptation to emerging technical trends. The year 2020 will be a keystone in the evolution toward the networks of the future, with the first commercial deployments of large-scale 5G infrastructures, the increasing interest in network intelligence and machine learning techniques applied to network management and orchestration, the progress of precision networking technologies toward low-latency services, and the end of the Horizon 2020 research framework program in Europe superseded by the next Horizon Europe. In this scenario and considering the many challenges that the aforementioned paradigms and technologies will bring, ICIN 2020 will focus on: "Beyond 5G: building network sense" The conference will foster new ideas and novel approaches to future service delivery in a smart network environment, able to show what could be qualified as sense, “a sane and realistic attitude to situations and problems”, according to Oxford Dictionary. With this vision, the conference will look beyond the current state of the art and promote the advances of network management and orchestration technologies. ICIN 2020 aims at providing an international forum for researchers and practitioners from academia, industry, network operators, and service providers to discuss and address the challenges posed by innovation in clouds, Internet and networks. Interested authors are invited to submit papers presenting novel technical studies as well as broader position and visionary papers. Contributions that discuss lessons learnt and best practices, describe practical deployment and implementation experiences, and demonstrate innovative use-cases are especially encouraged. ********************************************************************************** ICIN 2020 solicits original, unpublished work not currently under review by other conferences or journals. Papers submitted to ICIN 2020 will be assessed based on originality, technical soundness, clarity and interest to a wide audience. All submissions must be written in English and must use standard IEEE two-column conference template, available for download from the IEEE website: https://www.ieee.org/conferences/publishing/templates.html Only PDF files will be accepted for the review process and all submissions must be done electronically through EDAS using the following link: https://edas.info/N26190 Technical papers can be of two types: full papers or short papers, up to 8 pages and 5 pages respectively, including tables, figures and references. Demo papers of length of 3 pages are also solicited. At least one author is required to register, at the full rate, to present accepted papers at the conference and for the paper to appear in the conference proceedings. The best technical papers presented at the conference will be invited to submit an extended version for fast-track review in the following journals:     - IEEE Transactions on Network Service and Management (Impact Factor: 4.682)     - MDPI Sensors (Impact Factor: 3.031) Extended versions of ICIN 2020 papers must include at least 30% of new material (algorithms, results, related work) compared to the conference version. Particularly innovative and visionary papers will be invited to submit a tutorial-style, magazine version for fast-track review in:     - IEEE Communications Magazine (Impact Factor: 10.356) Areas of interest and topics include, but are not limited to: - Cloud and networking aspects of IoT, 5G, and beyond     * Vertical industries and digital twins     * Automotive and vehicular networking, including vehicular cloud services     * Tactile Internet and precision networking     * Protocols for ultra-low latency and ultra-high reliability     * Fog, edge and multi-access computing and networking     * Security, trust and privacy, especially applied to IoT and 5G networks - Enablers and services for 5G networks: from experiments to reality and beyond     * 5G network architecture, services, protocols, and use cases     * Service-Based Architecture (SBA) design applied to the control plane,       data plane and management plane     * 5G functional decomposition and composition     * Advanced 5G infrastructure slicing     * Scalability and multi-tenancy in 5G networks and 5G network slicing - Network automation and orchestration architectures and protocols     * Intent-based network management and cloud resource orchestration     * Network programmability architectures and systems     * Orchestration of distributed cloud and network resources in vertical markets     * Network artificial intelligence, machine learning and reasoning     * Network data analytics, anomaly detection, and feature extraction     * Autonomic and cognitive networking     * Societal and legal aspects of network automation - Technologies for innovation in clouds, Internet and networks     * Software Defined Networking (SDN)     * Network Function Virtualization (NFV)     * Service function chaining, function placement and network embedding     * Big data and fast data processing and management     * Use of Distributed Ledger Technologies in networking and network services     * CDN architectures and network cache allocation schemes     * Advanced multimedia and real-time communications, QoS/QoE design     * Lightweight virtualization technologies, software and hardware acceleration     * Performance, optimization and resource dimensioning     * Energy-efficient software-defined infrastructures     * Measurement, monitoring and telemetry     * Testbeds, open-source projects and open standards ********************************************************************************** General Co-Chairs --------------------------- Bruno Chatras (Orange, France) Diego Lopez (Telefónica, Spain) Technical Program Committee Co-Chairs --------------------------- Shingo Ata (Osaka City University, Japan) Walter Cerroni (University of Bologna, Italy) Keynotes and Panels Co-Chairs --------------------------- Alex Galis (University College London, UK) Dirk Kutscher (University of Applied Sciences Emden/Leer, Germany) Workshops Co-Chairs --------------------------- Eduard Grasa (i2CAT Foundation, Spain) Eduardo Jacob (University of the Basque Country, Spain) Tutorials Co-Chairs --------------------------- Barbara Martini (CNIT, Italy) Rogier Noldus (Ericsson, The Netherlands) Demo Co-Chairs --------------------------- Bessem Sayadi (Nokia, France) Pierre Lynch (Keysight, Canada) Publication Chair --------------------------- Piotr Borylo (AGH, Poland) Publicity Co-Chairs --------------------------- Lei Shu (Nanjing Agricultural University, China) Xiaodi Huang (Charles Sturt University, Australia) Jérôme François (INRIA, France) Muge Sayit (Ege University, Turkey) Patrons Chair --------------------------- Jeremie Leguay (Huawei, France) Finance Chair --------------------------- Guy Pujolle (DNAC, France) International Steering Committee Chair --------------------------- Noel Crespi (IMT, France) Overall Arrangements --------------------------- Aziza Lounis (DNAC, France) Web Chair --------------------------- Elia Kallas (DNAC, France) We are looking forward to your submission to ICIN 2020 ------------------------------------------------------------ For further information, see https://www.icin-conference.org ------------------------------------------------------------ From nobody Fri Nov 8 06:12:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E15D120105 for ; 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Fri, 8 Nov 2019 14:12:17 +0000 From: "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" To: "nmrg@irtf.org" Thread-Topic: Draft agendas for NMRG @ IETF 106 sessions Thread-Index: AdWWPgc4UMnWHmK/RsC/e7nlsMGJ8w== Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 14:12:17 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com; x-originating-ip: [37.164.215.151] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 3d825469-bb0b-4134-5fc0-08d76455a983 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: PR1PR07MB4874: x-ms-exchange-purlcount: 2 x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:5236; x-forefront-prvs: 0215D7173F x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(136003)(396003)(346002)(376002)(366004)(39860400002)(199004)(189003)(66544003)(63294003)(497574002)(7696005)(478600001)(8936002)(966005)(4743002)(1730700003)(81166006)(81156014)(8676002)(33656002)(54896002)(6306002)(2351001)(55016002)(66574012)(9686003)(236005)(5640700003)(25786009)(6436002)(9326002)(3846002)(2906002)(6116002)(790700001)(6916009)(86362001)(2501003)(256004)(14444005)(52536014)(66066001)(66476007)(66556008)(64756008)(66446008)(5660300002)(186003)(7736002)(14454004)(76116006)(66946007)(99286004)(6506007)(71190400001)(71200400001)(316002)(102836004)(74316002)(476003)(26005)(606006)(486006); 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, The draft agendas for the two NMRG sessions @ IETF 106 are available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessa/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessb/ And copied below for your convenience. See you soon in Singapore! Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent. --- NMRG 58th meeting IETF 105, Montreal RG Chair: Laurent Ciavaglia J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois Useful links: Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/session/nmrg Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf106/nmrg/ Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-106-nmrg Audio recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf106/ Video recording: https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/playlists *********** Session 1 *********** Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 Room: Olivia Agenda: 1. Introduction + RG information, Chairs 10:00 10 min. 2. Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of IBN, and= follow-ups 10:10 15 min. +Q&A 3. Status and progress of active I-Ds 3.1 Update on Intent Classification, Olga Havel https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/ 10:30 10 min.+ Q&A 3.2 Update on IBN Concepts and Overview, Alex Clemm https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/ 10:45 10 min. + Q&A 3.3 (TBC) Update on An intent-driven management framework 4. Technical presentations and discussion 4.1 IBN for network slicing in 5G-EVE project, Luis M. Contreras, 11:00 15 min + Q&A 4.2 Framework for Use of ECA (Event Condition Action) in Network Self-M= anagement, Daniel King https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bwd-netmod-eca-framework-00 11:20 15 min. + Q&A 4.3 Intent management framework for OTT applications, Sabine Randriamas= y 11:35 10 min.+ Q&A 4.4 Next steps on Architecture and functionalities, use cases and techn= iques remaining time. 5. AOB *********** Session 2 *********** Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 - 13:50 Room: Collyer Agenda: 1. NMRG recharter, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois & Laurent Ciavaglia 12:20, 7 min + Q&A 2. Network AI challenge Update on the NMRG activity on the AI challenge, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois 12:35 Challenge proposition, Albert Cabellos 12:45 3. Artificial intelligence for networking and network for AI 3.1 AI activities in other communities 3.1a) IEEE Emerging Technologies Initiative for Network Intelligence, L= aurent Ciavaglia 12:55 3.1b) ETSI Zero-touch network and Service Management (ZSM), Laurent Cia= vaglia 13:05 3.1c) ITU Focus Group on Machine Learning for Future Networks including= 5G, TBC 13:15 3.1d) ETSI Experiential Networked Intelligence, Will Liu 13:25 3.2 Technical presentation TBC on Network AI, TBC 13:35 4. AOB --_000_PR1PR07MB4891EB9D25B501C10F7D1F3FF37B0PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

The draft agendas for the two NMRG sessions @ IETF 1= 06 are available at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessa/=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessb/=

 

And copied below for your convenience.

 

See you soon in Singapore!

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me and Laurent.

---

 

NMRG 58th meeting

IETF 105, Montreal

 

RG Chair:

   Laurent Ciavaglia

   J=E9r=F6me Fran=E7ois

 

Useful links:

   Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/session/nmrg

   Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf1= 06/nmrg/

   Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/n= otes-ietf-106-nmrg

   Audio recording: https://www.ietf.org/a= udio/ietf106/

   Video recording: https://www.youtube.co= m/user/ietf/playlists

 

 

*********** Session 1 ***********<= /p>

  Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00

  Room: Olivia

 

Agenda:

 

1. Introduction + RG information, Chairs

    10:00 10 min.

 

 

2. Quick report on October interim meeting on practi= cal aspects of IBN, and follow-ups

    10:10 15 min. +Q&A

 

 

3.  Status and progress of active I-Ds

    3.1 Update on Intent Classif= ication, Olga Havel

     https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/

     10:30 10 min.+ Q&A<= o:p>

    

    3.2 Update on IBN Concepts a= nd Overview, Alex Clemm

     https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/

     10:45 10 min. + Q&A=

    

    3.3 (TBC) Update on An inten= t-driven management framework

    

4. Technical presentations and discussion

    4.1 IBN for network slicing = in  5G-EVE project, Luis M. Contreras,

    11:00 15 min + Q&A

 

    4.2 Framework for Use of ECA (Eve= nt Condition Action) in Network Self-Management, Daniel King

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft= -bwd-netmod-eca-framework-00

 

    11:20 15 min. + Q&A<= /o:p>

 

    4.3 Intent management framework f= or OTT applications, Sabine Randriamasy

    11:35 10 min.+ Q&A

 

 

    4.4 Next steps on Architecture an= d functionalities, use cases and techniques

    remaining time.=

 

5. AOB

 

 

*********** Session 2 ***********<= /p>

  Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 – 13:50

  Room: Collyer

 

Agenda:

   

1. NMRG recharter, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois= & Laurent Ciavaglia

12:20, 7 min + Q&A

 

2. Network AI challenge

    Update on the NMRG activity on th= e AI challenge, J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois

    12:35

 

    Challenge proposition, Albert Cab= ellos

    12:45

 

 

3. Artificial intelligence for networking and networ= k for AI

 

3.1 AI activities in other communities

    3.1a) IEEE Emerging Technologies = Initiative for Network Intelligence, Laurent Ciavaglia

    12:55

 

    3.1b) ETSI Zero-touch network and= Service Management (ZSM), Laurent Ciavaglia

    13:05

 

    3.1c) ITU Focus Group on Machine = Learning for Future Networks including 5G, TBC

    13:15

 

    3.1d) ETSI Experiential Networked= Intelligence, Will Liu

    13:25

 

 

3.2 Technical presentation TBC on Network AI, TBC

13:35

 

4. AOB

 

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The 6th =C2=A0IEEE =C2=A0International Conference on Networ= k Softwarization (NetSoft 2020)
will =C2=A0be =C2=A0held =C2=A0from =C2= =A0June =C2=A029 =C2=A0to =C2=A0July 3, 2020 in =C2=A0the =C2=A0historic ci= ty of Ghent
in Belgium. IEEE =C2=A0NetSoft =C2=A0has =C2=A0been =C2=A0c= reated =C2=A0as =C2=A0a =C2=A0flagship conference aiming
at =C2=A0addre= ssing =C2=A0 softwarization =C2=A0of =C2=A0networks =C2=A0and =C2=A0systemi= c =C2=A0trends =C2=A0raised =C2=A0by
the =C2=A0 convergence =C2=A0 of = =C2=A0 Cloud =C2=A0 Computing, =C2=A0 Software-Defined =C2=A0Networking (SD= N) =C2=A0
and =C2=A0Network =C2=A0Function =C2=A0Virtualization (NFV), l= eading to a significant evolution
of networks and services.

*** = Scope ***
*************
Over =C2=A0the =C2=A0last =C2=A0few =C2=A0yea= rs, =C2=A0software has become the core value provider in the
telecommun= ications =C2=A0industry.=C2=A0 Boosted =C2=A0by =C2=A0scientific =C2=A0brea= kthrough, continuous
innovation =C2=A0and =C2=A0stringent requirements = for new services, network softwarization
is =C2=A0currently =C2=A0trans= forming =C2=A0telecommunications =C2=A0and networking industry, and is
= bringing =C2=A0 several =C2=A0opportunities, =C2=A0while =C2=A0raising =C2= =A0new =C2=A0challenges, =C2=A0from =C2=A0both
conceptual and operation= al perspectives.

To =C2=A0pave =C2=A0the =C2=A0way =C2=A0for =C2=A0t= he =C2=A0next big step toward full network automation, with
unprecedent= ed capabilities offered by Artificial Intelligence (AI), NetSoft 2020
w= ill =C2=A0serve as =C2=A0a forum to discuss the latest advances in network = softwarization
technologies, =C2=A0AI-based software-defined networks, = autonomic networking, policy-
based network management, network slicing,= and other related research areas that
are =C2=A0anticipated =C2=A0to = =C2=A0radically transform today=C3=ADs networks. The need for further
a= dvances =C2=A0in =C2=A0these =C2=A0topics =C2=A0is =C2=A0reflected in the o= verall theme of NetSoft 2020:
"Bridging the gap between AI and Net= work Softwarization".

NetSoft =C2=A02020 =C2=A0will =C2=A0featu= re technical paper presentations, keynotes, tutorials,
workshops, demos= and exhibitions from world-leading experts representing service
provid= ers, vendors, research institutes, open source projects and academia.
*** Topics of interest ***
**************************
The topics of= interest include, but are not limited to:

- Programmable SDN and NF= V: languages and architectures
- Softwarized cloud, fog and edge infrast= ructures
- Cognitive and autonomic networking
- AI techniques to supp= ort network automation
- Big data analytics for managing softwarized net= works
- Network slicing and slice management
- Mobility management in= software networks
- Policy-based and intent-based Networking
- Centr= alized vs distributed control, management & orchestration
- Abstract= ions and virtualization of resources, services and functions
- Service F= unction Chaining
- Container/microservice-based network functions
- E= fficient network/service monitoring in SDN/NFV
- QoS and QoE in softwari= zed infrastructures
- Resilience, reliability, and robustness of softwar= ized networks
- Network softwarization for 5G
- Network management at= the edge for low-latency services
- Cooperative multi-domain, multi-ten= ant SDN/NFV environments
- Security, Safety, Trust and Privacy in virtua= lized environments
- SDN switch/router architecture and design
- Dyna= mic resource discovery and negotiation schemes
- Lifecycle management of= network software
- DevOps methodologies for network softwarization
-= Debugging and introspection of software-defined systems
- Softwarized p= latforms for Internet of Things (IoT)
- Energy efficient and green softw= are-defined infrastructures (SDI)
- Transition strategies from existing = networks to SDN/NFV
- New value chains and service models enabled by sof= twarization
- Socio-economic impact and regulations for softwarization- Experience reports from experimental testbeds and deployments

**= * Important dates ***
***********************
Researchers =C2=A0and = =C2=A0Experts =C2=A0from =C2=A0Industry =C2=A0and Academia are =C2=A0invite= d =C2=A0to =C2=A0submit
technical =C2=A0papers, =C2=A0tutorials, demos = =C2=A0and =C2=A0workshop =C2=A0proposals =C2=A0that =C2=A0fall =C2=A0into = =C2=A0
the =C2=A0conference =C2=A0topics =C2=A0of =C2=A0interest.=C2=A0 = Submission deadlines are the following :

- Workshop Proposal Submiss= ion: 11 November 2019
- Technical Paper Submission: 2 December 2019
-= Tutorial Proposal Submission: 13 January 2020
- Demo Proposal Submissio= n: 24 February 2020

For =C2=A0specific =C2=A0details =C2=A0about =C2= =A0submission =C2=A0format =C2=A0and =C2=A0procedure, please =C2=A0check = =C2=A0 http://ieee-netsoft.org/= authors

*** Important dates for Technical Paper Submission *********************************************************
- Paper submiss= ion deadline: 2 December 2019
- Paper acceptance notification: 9 March 2= 020
- Camera-ready Papers: =C2=A06 April 2020

Important: NetSoft= 2020 is enforcing =C2=A0a strict publication and no-show policy as
sta= ted by IEEE. Please check details on the NetSoft 2020 website.

*** G= eneral Co-Chairs ***
*************************
Filip De Turck, Ghent = University - imec, Belgium
Prosper Chemouil, Orange Labs (retired), Fra= nce

*** TPC Co-Chairs ***
*********************
Tim Wauters, G= hent University - imec, Belgium
Mohamed Faten Zhani, ETS Montreal, Cana= da
Walter Cerroni, University of Bologna, Italy

*** Workshop Pro= gram Co-Chairs ***
**********************************
Noura Limam, Un= iversity of Waterloo, Canada
Imen Grida Ben Yahia, Orange Labs, France
*** Demo Co-Chairs ***
**********************
George Xilouris, = NCSR Demokritos, Greece
Wolfgang John, Ericsson, Sweden
Sujata Tibrew= ala, Intel, USA

*** Tutorial Co-Chairs ***
**********************= ****
Maria Torres Vega, Ghent University =E2=80=93 imec, Belgium
Barb= ara Martini, CNIT, Italy
Flavio Esposito, Saint Louis University, USA
********
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--000000000000eff8690596e87e96-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 03:03:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90112025D; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:03:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YdjnLX5_8qe4; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 090A712003E; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:03:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3135; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1573556590; x=1574766190; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8ubXJJqlIYJM0ZE2VPusW3dXXPqpRr28gm2/W+NKbbg=; b=bMak+GNaHu1ejwyxcielD85uhekx0KGoqC+EjbuhjUyfY6gLrecvlLAg Bsr9Xip1NRk6V3lVOkfdgqd00mMmSP9qe4uKVrTSMoO1RjHrJBBt9EDfL Rj3un9UvxCG7PJf9J2/9N/ziX5Wf/WhPbNX7BcaedfOechKVsqowiHwRy 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.68,296,1569283200"; d="scan'208";a="19097640" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-2.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 12 Nov 2019 11:03:07 +0000 Received: from [10.55.221.36] (ams-bclaise-nitro3.cisco.com [10.55.221.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by aer-core-2.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xACB35wm005665 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:03:07 GMT To: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= , "nmrg@irtf.org" Cc: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" , "Jean Quilbeuf -X (jquilbeu - LIANEO at Cisco)" References: From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <714957dc-3fa2-b236-3a28-55569320a214@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:03:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Authenticated-User: bclaise X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.55.221.36, ams-bclaise-nitro3.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-2.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG Session 1 at IETF 106 / Singapore / November 2019 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:03:13 -0000 Jérôme, Laurent, During the NMRG interim meeting end of July in Montreal, I explained verbally what I believe is the way (to attempt) to solve the intent-based networking. In the end, I finally I wrote those two drafts below. I would like to request a slot to present them, if the agenda time permits:     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-01 The first document describes the architecture for Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking (SAIN). This architecture aims at assuring that service instances are correctly running. As services rely on multiple sub-services by the underlying network devices, getting the assurance of a healthy service is only possible with a holistic view of network devices. This architecture not only helps to correlate the service degradation with the network root cause but also the impacted services impacted when a network component fails or degrades. This second document complements the architecture by providing open interfaces between components, meaning YANG modules. FYI, this architecture has been validated by a proof of concept. In the mean time, NMRG, your feedback is welcome. Regards, Benoit > Dear all, > > We will have two NMRG sessions in IETF 106 planned as below (subject > to changes): > > - Session 1: Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 (local time) > - Session 2: Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 – 13:50 (local time) > > Session 1 will focus on the Intent-based Networking topic with: > 1) Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of > IBN, and follow-ups > 2) Status and progress of active I-Ds > 3) Technical presentations and discussion on > - Architecture/functionality > - Use cases and validation scenarios > - Techniques > > For point 3), we invite presentations on various, AI and non-AI based, > techniques addressing the IBN challenges and problems of IBN. > We are interested in learning which techniques are useful and > applicable, their benefits, limits and drawbacks, including > quantitative and qualitative comparison/evaluation between different > techniques or approaches. > The diagrams in presentations [1], [2] and [3] can help as support to > identify specific functional components or phases with challenges and > issues to solve. > > Please reply to chairs with your proposals by Thursday, October 31st > 2019. > > Best regards > Jérôme & Laurent > NMRG chairs > > --- > [1]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-intent-driven-networks-some-challenges-and-research-directions > [2]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-08/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-08-sessa-towards-an-intent-lifecycle > [3]: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-nmrg-update-on-ibn-concepts-lifecycle-and-functionality-00.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg From nobody Tue Nov 12 06:56:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 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(8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xACJ31ia000699 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:03 GMT To: "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" , =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= , "nmrg@irtf.org" Cc: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" , "Jean Quilbeuf -X (jquilbeu - LIANEO at Cisco)" References: <714957dc-3fa2-b236-3a28-55569320a214@cisco.com> From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <162cda26-4f99-0df6-3287-4af456cd0d3d@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:03:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CD68EF9CE98919CFC6DE58A5" Content-Language: en-US X-Authenticated-User: bclaise X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.55.221.36, ams-bclaise-nitro3.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-3.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG Session 1 at IETF 106 / Singapore / November 2019 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:03:09 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CD68EF9CE98919CFC6DE58A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Laurent, > Hi Benoît, all, > > Thanks Benoît for sharing the links and the proposal towards the NMRG. > We can re-arrange the agenda of session 1 to give you a (10min?) slot, but time will be limited (the agenda was already quite packed). Perfect. > Please give us a title for your presentation. Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking Architecture Thanks and regards, B.* * > > Best regards, Laurent. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Benoit Claise >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:03 >> To: Jérôme François ; nmrg@irtf.org >> Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org; Jean Quilbeuf -X (jquilbeu - LIANEO at Cisco) >> >> Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG Session 1 at IETF 106 / >> Singapore / November 2019 >> >> Jérôme, Laurent, >> >> During the NMRG interim meeting end of July in Montreal, I explained >> verbally what I believe is the way (to attempt) to solve the >> intent-based networking. >> >> In the end, I finally I wrote those two drafts below. I would like to >> request a slot to present them, if the agenda time permits: >> >>     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00 >>     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-01 >> >> The first document describes the architecture for Service Assurance for >> Intent-based Networking (SAIN). This architecture aims at assuring that >> service instances are correctly running. As services rely on multiple >> sub-services by the underlying network devices, getting the assurance of >> a healthy service is only possible with a holistic view of network >> devices. This architecture not only helps to correlate the service >> degradation with the network root cause but also the impacted services >> impacted when a network component fails or degrades. >> >> This second document complements the architecture by providing open >> interfaces between components, meaning YANG modules. >> >> FYI, this architecture has been validated by a proof of concept. >> >> In the mean time, NMRG, your feedback is welcome. >> >> Regards, Benoit >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> We will have two NMRG sessions in IETF 106 planned as below (subject >>> to changes): >>> >>> - Session 1: Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 (local time) >>> - Session 2: Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 – 13:50 (local time) >>> >>> Session 1 will focus on the Intent-based Networking topic with: >>> 1) Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of >>> IBN, and follow-ups >>> 2) Status and progress of active I-Ds >>> 3) Technical presentations and discussion on >>> - Architecture/functionality >>> - Use cases and validation scenarios >>> - Techniques >>> >>> For point 3), we invite presentations on various, AI and non-AI based, >>> techniques addressing the IBN challenges and problems of IBN. >>> We are interested in learning which techniques are useful and >>> applicable, their benefits, limits and drawbacks, including >>> quantitative and qualitative comparison/evaluation between different >>> techniques or approaches. >>> The diagrams in presentations [1], [2] and [3] can help as support to >>> identify specific functional components or phases with challenges and >>> issues to solve. >>> >>> Please reply to chairs with your proposals by Thursday, October 31st >>> 2019. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Jérôme & Laurent >>> NMRG chairs >>> >>> --- >>> [1]: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg- >> 05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-intent-driven-networks- >> some-challenges-and-research-directions >>> [2]: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg- >> 08/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-08-sessa-towards-an-intent-lifecycle >>> [3]: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-nmrg- >> update-on-ibn-concepts-lifecycle-and-functionality-00.pdf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmrg mailing list >>> nmrg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg --------------CD68EF9CE98919CFC6DE58A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Laurent,
Hi Benoît, all,

Thanks Benoît for sharing the links and the proposal towards the NMRG.
We can re-arrange the agenda of session 1 to give you a (10min?) slot, but time will be limited (the agenda was already quite packed).
Perfect. 
Please give us a title for your presentation.
Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking Architecture

Thanks and regards, B.
 

Best regards, Laurent.



-----Original Message-----
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 12:03
To: Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr>; nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org; Jean Quilbeuf -X (jquilbeu - LIANEO at Cisco)
<jquilbeu@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for contributions - NMRG Session 1 at IETF 106 /
Singapore / November 2019

Jérôme, Laurent,

During the NMRG interim meeting end of July in Montreal, I explained
verbally what I believe is the way (to attempt) to solve the
intent-based networking.

In the end, I finally I wrote those two drafts below. I would like to
request a slot to present them, if the agenda time permits:

     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00
     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-01

The first document describes the architecture for Service Assurance for
Intent-based Networking (SAIN). This architecture aims at assuring that
service instances are correctly running. As services rely on multiple
sub-services by the underlying network devices, getting the assurance of
a healthy service is only possible with a holistic view of network
devices. This architecture not only helps to correlate the service
degradation with the network root cause but also the impacted services
impacted when a network component fails or degrades.

This second document complements the architecture by providing open
interfaces between components, meaning YANG modules.

FYI, this architecture has been validated by a proof of concept.

In the mean time, NMRG, your feedback is welcome.

Regards, Benoit


Dear all,

We will have two NMRG sessions in IETF 106 planned as below (subject
to changes):

- Session 1: Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 (local time)
- Session 2: Friday 2019/11/22 12:20 – 13:50 (local time)

Session 1 will focus on the Intent-based Networking topic with:
1) Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of
IBN, and follow-ups
2) Status and progress of active I-Ds
3) Technical presentations and discussion on
- Architecture/functionality
- Use cases and validation scenarios
- Techniques

For point 3), we invite presentations on various, AI and non-AI based,
techniques addressing the IBN challenges and problems of IBN.
We are interested in learning which techniques are useful and
applicable, their benefits, limits and drawbacks, including
quantitative and qualitative comparison/evaluation between different
techniques or approaches.
The diagrams in presentations [1], [2] and [3] can help as support to
identify specific functional components or phases with challenges and
issues to solve.

Please reply to chairs with your proposals by Thursday, October 31st
2019.

Best regards
Jérôme & Laurent
NMRG chairs

---
[1]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-

05/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-05-sessa-intent-driven-networks-
some-challenges-and-research-directions

[2]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-

08/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-08-sessa-towards-an-intent-lifecycle

[3]:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-nmrg-

update-on-ibn-concepts-lifecycle-and-functionality-00.pdf

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Dear all,


The draft agendas for the two NMRG sessions @ IETF 106 have been updated at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessa/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessb/

And copied below for your convenience.


See you soon in Singapore!
Best regards, Jrme and Laurent.

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NMRG 57th meeting
IETF 106, Singapore

RG Chairs:
     Laurent Ciavaglia 
     Jrme Franois 


Useful links:
     Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/session/nmrg
     Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf106/nmrg/
     Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-106-nmrg
     Audio recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf106/
     Video recording: https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/playlists


*********** Session 1 ***********
Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00
Room: Olivia

Agenda:
     1. Introduction + RG information, Chairs
     10:00 - 5 min.

     2. Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of IBN, and follow-ups, Chairs
     10:05 - 5 min. + 5min. Q&A

     3. Status and progress of active I-Ds
     3.1 Update on Intent Classification, Olga Havel (remote)
     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/
     10:15 - 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

     3.2Update on IBN Concepts and Overview, Alex Clemm
     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/
     10:30 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
              
     4. Technical presentations and discussion
     4.1 IBN for network slicing in  5G-EVE project, Luis M. Contreras,
     10:45 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

     4.2 A Solution for Goal-oriented Policy Refinement in NFV Management and Orchestration Systems, Michel Sales Bonfim
     11:00 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

     4.3 Intent-based networking for OTT applications: concepts, lifecycle and challenges, Sabine Randriamasy
     11:15 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

     4.4 Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking Architecture, Benot Claise
     11:30 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00

     4.5 Framework for Use of ECA (Event Condition Action) in Network Self-Management, Daniel King
     11:45 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bwd-netmod-eca-framework-00

     4.6 Next steps on Architecture and functionalities, use cases and techniques
     remaining time.

     5. AOB



*********** Session 2 ***********
Friday 2019/11/22 12:20  13:50
Room: Collyer

Agenda:
1. Introduction + NMRG recharter, Chairs
12:20, 5 min + 5min Q&A

2. Artificial intelligence for networking and network for AI

     2.1 Adversarial Network Benchmarking, Andreas Blenk
     12:30 - 15min + 5min Q&A

     2.2 AI activities in other communities
         2.2.a) ETSI ISG Experiential Networked Intelligence (ENI), Will Liu
         12:50 - 5min + 3min Q&A

         2.2.b) ETSI ISG Zero-touch network and Service Management (ZSM), Laurent Ciavaglia
         12:58 -  5min + 3min Q&A

         2.2.c) IEEE ETI for Network Intelligence (NI), Laurent Ciavaglia
         13:06 - 5min + 3min Q&A

         2.2.d) ITU-T FG on Machine Learning for Future Networks including 5G (ML5G), Vishnu RAM OV
         13:14 - 5min + 3min Q&A

     2.3 Network AI challenge
         2.3.a) Update on the NMRG activity on the AI challenge, Jrme Franois
         13:22 - 6min + 4min Q&A

         2.3.b) Challenge proposition, Albert Cabellos
         13:32 - 6min + 4min Q&A

     2.4 Wrap-up of Network AI side meeting, Chairs
     13:42 - 5min + Q&A



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Dear all,

      

      

      The draft agendas for the two NMRG sessions @ IETF 106 have been
      updated at:

      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessa/

      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-106-nmrg-sessb/

      

      And copied below for your convenience.

      

      

      See you soon in Singapore!

      Best regards, Jrme and Laurent.

      

      ---

      

      
NMRG 57th meeting
IETF 106, Singapore

RG Chairs:
    Laurent Ciavaglia <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
    Jrme Franois <jerome.francois@inria.fr>


Useful links:
    Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/session/nmrg
    Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf106/nmrg/
    Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-106-nmrg
    Audio recording: https://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf106/
    Video recording: https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/playlists


*********** Session 1 ***********
Thursday 2019/11/21 10:00 - 12:00 
Room: Olivia 

Agenda: 
    1. Introduction + RG information, Chairs
    10:00 - 5 min.

    2. Quick report on October interim meeting on practical aspects of IBN, and follow-ups, Chairs
    10:05 - 5 min. + 5min. Q&A

    3. Status and progress of active I-Ds 
    3.1 Update on Intent Classification, Olga Havel (remote)
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification/
    10:15 - 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

    3.2Update on IBN Concepts and Overview, Alex Clemm
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent/
    10:30 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
             
    4. Technical presentations and discussion 
    4.1 IBN for network slicing in  5G-EVE project, Luis M. Contreras, 
    10:45 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

    4.2 A Solution for Goal-oriented Policy Refinement in NFV Management and Orchestration Systems, Michel Sales Bonfim
    11:00 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

    4.3 Intent-based networking for OTT applications: concepts, lifecycle and challenges, Sabine Randriamasy
    11:15 10 min. + 5min. Q&A

    4.4 Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking Architecture, Benot Claise
    11:30 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00

    4.5 Framework for Use of ECA (Event Condition Action) in Network Self-Management, Daniel King
    11:45 10 min. + 5min. Q&A
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bwd-netmod-eca-framework-00

    4.6 Next steps on Architecture and functionalities, use cases and techniques  
    remaining time.

    5. AOB



*********** Session 2 ***********
Friday 2019/11/22 12:20  13:50
Room: Collyer

Agenda:
1. Introduction + NMRG recharter, Chairs
12:20, 5 min + 5min Q&A

2. Artificial intelligence for networking and network for AI

    2.1 Adversarial Network Benchmarking, Andreas Blenk
    12:30 - 15min + 5min Q&A

    2.2 AI activities in other communities
        2.2.a) ETSI ISG Experiential Networked Intelligence (ENI), Will Liu
        12:50 - 5min + 3min Q&A

        2.2.b) ETSI ISG Zero-touch network and Service Management (ZSM), Laurent Ciavaglia 
        12:58 -  5min + 3min Q&A

        2.2.c) IEEE ETI for Network Intelligence (NI), Laurent Ciavaglia
        13:06 - 5min + 3min Q&A

        2.2.d) ITU-T FG on Machine Learning for Future Networks including 5G (ML5G), Vishnu RAM OV 
        13:14 - 5min + 3min Q&A

    2.3 Network AI challenge
        2.3.a) Update on the NMRG activity on the AI challenge, Jrme Franois
        13:22 - 6min + 4min Q&A

        2.3.b) Challenge proposition, Albert Cabellos
        13:32 - 6min + 4min Q&A

    2.4 Wrap-up of Network AI side meeting, Chairs
    13:42 - 5min + Q&A

      

    

  


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Hello,

In last virtual meeting, we presented a procedure and guidelines for adopting an 
individual draft as a RG document in NMRG.
Details are given in slides 7-8 of 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-11/materials/slides-interim-2019-nmrg-11-sessa-intro-chair-slides

Below is the summary of the procedure to be followed by interested authors.

Best regards,
Laurent & Jérôme

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Step 0 - Precondition (not formally part of the procedure but the way we recommand 
to refine your individual draft)

Update individual drafts as usual
Retrieve comments from the group (mailing lists, meetings)
Address comments and give feedback about comments (mailing lists, meetings)

Step 1 - Check criteria for adoption

- What is the document about ? (clarity and value of the proposal)
-- Purpose / scope of the draft need to be clear (cannot be changed once adopted)
-- The current content must be enough mature
-- Scientific quality and impact

- How to continue the effort?
-- Evolution of the document must be already planned (based on received comment 
for example).
-- Workplan and milestones

- Who will work on the draft?
-- commitment from existing authors

Step 2 - Request adoption

1) Present scope, content and workplan of the document + ask for support at 
meeting or on the mailing list
2) Chairs will issue a “formal” call for adoption support on the mailing list and 
make the final decision


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Hello,

In addition to regular NMRG sessions at IETF106, a side meeting on AI for network 
has been scheduled:
- date: tuesday 19 November 8:30-9:45
- location: code lounge

Everybody is welcome to contribute.

The idea is to follow-up on our previous discussion in IETF104 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-nmrg-sessa-ai-for-nm-01.pdf).

Notably we would like to take this opportunity in order to identify and refine 
what are the specific challenges (technical, practical, metholodical, legal, 
business...) we encounter when we try to use AI techniques in our domain while 
being agnostic to a specific use-case as much as possible.

Best regards
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Dear all,

Some of us (B=C3=B6rje Ohlman, Sabine Randriamasy, Richard Yang) are organi=
zing
a side meeting at the IETF 106 on application and network integration,
including both application aware networking (AAN) and network aware
applications (NAA). The goal is to identify the major missing pieces
(information, mechanisms) based on ALTO but beyond to allow better network
and application integration.

To this end, we have invited a group of speakers willing to share their
experiences and insights about cooperative interactions between networks
and applications. In particular: given today=E2=80=99s network usage trends=
, where
do we identify problems that would be solved with the help of such a
cooperation? Ideally, the speakers represent major stakeholders such as
ISPs, Applications providers, and Vendors.

The purpose of this meeting is to gather input, helping to better identify
how ALTO evolutions can complement with other IETF protocols or research
activities. We, therefore, seek insights  from participants involved in
network operations, applications, or cooperation thereof. You are therefore
kindly invited to participate to this meeting.

Feedbacks that this meeting would like to gather from speakers include: AAN
or NAA: what is it? What problems did we address? What did we try? What
worked? What did not? What is missing? What are the changes in networks,
applications, in research, technologies that we need to take into account?

The meeting is scheduled on Wednesday November 20th morning as follows:

   - Session 1: 8h30 - 9h45 in Room VIP A
      - Meeting context / Brief ALTO introduction
      - Speaker1: Zhenbin Li (Huawei)
      - Speaker2: Yunfei Zhang (Tencent)
      - Speaker3: Luis Contreras (Telefonica)
      - Speaker4: Richard Yang (Yale University)
   - Session 2: 10h - 11h in Room Bras Basah
      - Open discussion

*Remote participation* is possible by using the Zoom link [0]

We look forward to seeing you there,

Best regards,

Danny Lachos

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Dear all,

Some of us (B=C3=B6rje Ohlman, Sabine Randriamasy,=
 Richard Yang) are organizing a side meeting at the IETF 106 on application=
 and network integration, including both application aware networking (AAN)=
 and network aware applications (NAA). The goal is to identify the major mi=
ssing pieces (information, mechanisms) based on ALTO but beyond to allow be=
tter network and application integration.

To this end, we have invit=
ed a group of speakers willing to share their experiences and insights abou=
t cooperative interactions between networks and applications. In particular=
: given today=E2=80=99s network usage trends, where do we identify problems=
 that would be solved with the help of such a cooperation? Ideally, the spe=
akers represent major stakeholders such as ISPs, Applications providers, an=
d Vendors.

The purpose of this meeting is to gather input, helping t=
o better identify how ALTO evolutions can complement with other IETF protoc=
ols or research activities. We, therefore, seek insights =C2=A0from partici=
pants involved in network operations, applications, or cooperation thereof.=
 You are therefore kindly invited to participate to this meeting.

Fe=
edbacks that this meeting would like to gather from speakers include: AAN o=
r NAA: what is it? What problems did we address? What did we try? What work=
ed? What did not? What is missing? What are the changes in networks, applic=
ations, in research, technologies that we need to take into account?
The meeting is scheduled on Wednesday November 20th morning as follows:
  • Session 1: 8h30 - 9h45 in Room VIP A
    • Meeting context / Brief ALTO introduct=
ion
    • Speaker1: Zhenbin Li (Huawei)
      • Speaker2: Yunfei Zhang (Tencent)
    • Speaker3: Luis Contreras (Telefonica)
    • Speaker4: Richard Yang (Yale University)
    Session 2: 10h - 11h in Room Bras Basah
  • Open discussion
Remote par=
ticipation=C2=A0is possible by using the Zoom link [0]

We look f=
orward to seeing you there,

=

Best=
=C2=A0regards,

Danny Lachos



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We've just uploaded 02 version of intent classification draft (https://www.=
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Updates from previous version from July:
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2.                   Addressed Diego's comments about "Provide a framework =
for further intent evolution".  Addressed by adding a new draft: draft-sun-=
nmrg-intent-framework-00
3.                   Addressed Laurent's comments "Suggest to use parameter=
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Section 5 with classification tables for Carrier, DC and Enterprise.
4.                   Addressed comments from Ericsson "Classify based on gr=
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5.                   Chapters 5 and 6 became 6 and 7, as a result of adding=
 new chapter 5
6.                   Section 7: Added explanation about AI related content
7.                   Moved the sections of Policy Continuum and AI after th=
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Best Regards,


Olga






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The IEEE Communications Magazine Series on  Telecom Software, Network
Virtualization, and  Software Defined Networks aims at bringing
together  high-quality articles with applications-driven content on the
latest advances, technical innovations, open source projects, research,
and development in "network softwarization". 


Editorials of the two published issues (May and October 2019) are
available via the following links:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8713805

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8875711


Two more issues are planned to be published in the first half of 2020.


In  our role  as Series Editors,  we strive to achieve a fast,
high-quality, and selective review process  for all submissions, since
the research and development efforts in telecom software are fast-paced. 

Below you can find  the detailed call for papers. We are looking forward
to receiving your submissions.


Walter Cerroni, Alex Galis, Kohei Shiomoto, Mohamed Faten Zhani

Series Editors, IEEE Communications Magazine Series on Telecom Software,
Network Virtualization, and Software Defined Networks


 

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                                                    CALL FOR PAPERS


                                        IEEE Communications Magazine
Series on

                        Telecom Software, Network Virtualization, and
Software Defined Networks


https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/cfp/telecom-software-network-virtualization-and

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The key  role software is  increasingly playing in Telecommunications is
enabling unprecedented levels of abstraction,

disaggregation,   and programmability  in network infrastructures  and
services. This gave birth  to the trend

of "network softwarization" that advocates for network  architectures
that separate the software implementing network

functions, protocols and services from the hardware running them.


Propelled  by the maturity  of technologies like  network function
virtualization, and software-defined networking,

software-based  networking is radically  changing the way communication
infrastructures are designed,  programmed,

integrated  and operated. This enables rapid and innovative service
creation with easy deployment, and  opens the door

for a faster pace of innovation in the networking and ICT industry.


Underpinning this global trend, this IEEE Communications Magazine Series
aims at bringing together the latest advances,

technical  innovations, open  source projects, research, and 
development in Telecom Software, Network Virtualization,

and  Software Defined Networks. Contributions from industry  and
academia are welcome. Authors are invited to submit

manuscripts in all topics within the scope of this Series including, 
but not limited to, the following aspects of

software-based networking:


- Software-based network architectures/infrastructures,  network
slicing, network function virtualization, and service

  function chaining.

- Network operating systems, network  functions, interfaces, deployment
and  integration with software-based control,

  management and orchestration.

- Programmability of data, control and management planes.

- Performance measurements, evaluation and monitoring, validation and
debugging.

- Scalability, elasticity, resilience, maintainability.

- Safety and security.

- Experience reports from experimental testbeds, software-based networks
standards, open-source projects and solutions.

- New  and emerging topics (e.g.,  end-to-end and multi-domain 
software-based networks; Artificial Intelligence-

  assisted networks; high precision network software, infrastructures 
and services with QoS guarantees).


The IEEE Communications Magazine (ComMag) is a flagship publication of
the IEEE Communications Society and the world's

top-ranked magazine in Telecommunications with an Impact Factor (IF) of
10.435 and a Five-Year IF of 9.119.



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SERIES EDITORS

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- Walter Cerroni, University of Bologna, Italy, walter.cerroni@unibo.it

- Alex Galis, University College London, United Kingdom, a.galis@ucl.ac.uk

- Kohei Shiomoto, Tokyo City University, Japan, shiomoto@tcu.ac.jp

- Mohamed Faten Zhani, École de Technologie Supérieure (ÉTS Montreal),
Canada, mfzhani@etsmtl.ca


Series editors could be contacted at
SE-ComMagTelecomSoftware@googlegroups.com



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SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

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Papers  can be submitted  anytime during the year.  They will receive a
review process, and if accepted, they will be

published in the first slot available for this Series.


Authors  are required to ensure that  their submitted manuscripts are
in  full compliance with the magazine’s format

guidelines,  as outlined in the website.  Submissions not complying with
all format guidelines  receive an immediate

(administrative) reject  and are not forwarded to the review process
(IEEE PSPB Operation Manual, 8.2.2.3).


Format guidelines are available here:

https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/author-guidelines/manuscript-submission


Manuscripts      must be   submitted through    the magazine's
submissions   Website available at

http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/commag-ieee.  You will need to register
and then proceed  to the author center.

On the manuscript details page,   please select "Telecom Software,
Network Virtualization,  and Software Defined

Networks Series" from  the drop-down menu. Manuscripts  should be
tutorial in nature and should not be under review

for any other conference  or journal. They should be written in  a style
comprehensible and accessible  to readers

outside  the specialty  of the article.  Mathematical equations  should
not be used. For  detailed submission 

guidelines, please  refer to the magazine  website for the list of 
guidelines that must be followed  by all

submissions to the IEEE Communications Magazine:
https://www.comsoc.org/commag/paper-submission-guidelines



For further information, please check the following link:

https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/cfp/telecom-software-network-virtualization-and


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Apologies if you received duplicate copies of this CFP

     

      
The IEEE Communications Magazine Series on  Telecom Software,  Network Virtualization,  and  Software  Defined Networks aims  at  bringing  together  high-quality  articles with applications-driven content on the latest advances, technical innovations, open source projects, research, and development in "network softwarization". 

      

      
Editorials of the two published issues (May and October 2019) are available via the following links:

      
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8713805

      
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8875711

      

      
Two more issues are planned to be published in the first half of 2020.

      

      
In  our  role  as  Series  Editors,  we  strive  to achieve a fast, high-quality, and selective review process  for all submissions, since  the  research  and  development  efforts in telecom software are fast-paced. 

      
Below you can find  the detailed call for papers. We are looking forward to receiving your submissions.

      

      
Walter Cerroni, Alex Galis, Kohei Shiomoto, Mohamed Faten Zhani

      
Series Editors, IEEE Communications Magazine Series on Telecom Software, Network Virtualization, and Software Defined Networks

      

      
 

      
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                                                    CALL FOR PAPERS

      

      
                                        IEEE Communications Magazine Series on

      
                        Telecom Software, Network Virtualization, and Software Defined Networks

      

      
https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/cfp/telecom-software-network-virtualization-and

      
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The key  role  software is  increasingly playing in Telecommunications is enabling unprecedented levels of abstraction,

      
disaggregation,   and   programmability  in  network   infrastructures  and  services. This  gave  birth  to  the trend

      
of "network softwarization" that advocates for network  architectures that  separate  the software implementing network

      
functions, protocols and services from the hardware running them.

      

      
Propelled  by  the  maturity  of technologies  like  network  function virtualization, and software-defined networking,

      
software-based  networking  is  radically  changing  the  way  communication infrastructures are designed,  programmed,

      
integrated  and  operated. This enables rapid and innovative service creation with easy deployment, and  opens the door

      
for a faster pace of innovation in the networking and ICT industry.

      

      
Underpinning this global trend, this IEEE Communications Magazine Series aims at bringing together the latest advances,

      
technical  innovations, open  source projects, research, and  development in Telecom  Software, Network Virtualization,

      
and  Software Defined Networks. Contributions from industry  and  academia  are  welcome. Authors are invited to submit

      
manuscripts in all topics within the scope of this Series including,  but  not  limited  to,  the  following aspects of

      
software-based networking:

      

      
- Software-based network architectures/infrastructures,  network slicing, network function virtualization,  and service

      
  function chaining.

      
- Network operating systems, network  functions, interfaces,  deployment  and  integration with software-based control,

      
  management and orchestration.

      
- Programmability of data, control and management planes.

      
- Performance measurements, evaluation and monitoring, validation and debugging.

      
- Scalability, elasticity, resilience, maintainability.

      
- Safety and security.

      
- Experience reports from experimental testbeds, software-based networks standards, open-source projects and solutions.

      
- New  and  emerging topics (e.g.,  end-to-end   and  multi-domain  software-based  networks;  Artificial Intelligence-

      
  assisted networks; high precision network software, infrastructures  and  services  with QoS guarantees).

      

      
The IEEE Communications Magazine (ComMag) is a flagship publication of the IEEE Communications Society and the world's

      
top-ranked magazine in Telecommunications with an Impact Factor (IF) of 10.435 and a Five-Year IF of 9.119.

      

      

      
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SERIES EDITORS

      
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- Walter Cerroni, University of Bologna, Italy, walter.cerroni@unibo.it

      
- Alex Galis, University College London, United Kingdom, a.galis@ucl.ac.uk

      
- Kohei Shiomoto, Tokyo City University, Japan, shiomoto@tcu.ac.jp

      
- Mohamed Faten Zhani, École de Technologie Supérieure (ÉTS Montreal), Canada, mfzhani@etsmtl.ca

      

      
Series editors could be contacted at SE-ComMagTelecomSoftware@googlegroups.com

      

      

      
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SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

      
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Papers  can  be submitted  anytime  during the year.  They will receive a review process, and if accepted, they will be

      
published in the first slot available for this Series.

      

      
Authors  are  required to ensure that  their submitted manuscripts  are in  full compliance with  the magazine’s format

      
guidelines,  as  outlined  in the website.  Submissions not complying  with all format guidelines  receive an immediate

      
(administrative) reject  and are not forwarded to  the review process (IEEE PSPB Operation Manual, 8.2.2.3).

      

      
Format guidelines are available here:

      
https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/author-guidelines/manuscript-submission

      

      
Manuscripts      must        be      submitted     through    the     magazine's   submissions   Website  available  at

      
http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/commag-ieee.  You  will  need  to  register  and  then  proceed  to  the author center.

      
On the manuscript details page,   please   select   "Telecom  Software, Network Virtualization,  and  Software  Defined

      
Networks Series" from  the  drop-down  menu.  Manuscripts  should  be tutorial in nature and should not be under review

      
for any other conference  or journal. They should be written in  a  style  comprehensible  and  accessible  to  readers

      
outside  the  specialty  of  the  article.  Mathematical  equations  should  not  be  used.  For  detailed   submission 

      
guidelines, please  refer  to  the  magazine  website   for  the  list  of  guidelines  that  must be followed  by  all

      
submissions to the IEEE Communications Magazine: https://www.comsoc.org/commag/paper-submission-guidelines

      

      

      
For further information, please check the following link:

      
https://www.comsoc.org/publications/magazines/ieee-communications-magazine/cfp/telecom-software-network-virtualization-and

      

    
  


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Hi NMRG,

J=E9r=F4me and I have been working on a new version of the NMRG charter to =
capture better the current shape and activity of the RG.

We'd like to receive comments from the community. This is on the agenda of =
the session on Friday.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14eHQALG95VHE5N-YIAwH6vriKFG2WvI8d63Ttug=
ZLgU/edit?usp=3Dsharing

Thank you.
Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.

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Hi NMRG,


 


J=E9r=F4me and I have been working on a new version =
of the NMRG charter to capture better the current shape and activity of the=
 RG.


 


We'd like to receive comments from the community. Th=
is is on the agenda of the session on Friday.


 


https://docs.goo=
gle.com/document/d/14eHQALG95VHE5N-YIAwH6vriKFG2WvI8d63TtugZLgU/edit?usp=3D=
sharing


 


Thank you.


Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.






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Hello,

In addition to the previous email, a few additional links for your convenie=
nce:

  *   Version -01 of NMRG charter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e84-=
M4DEDi-LCXjLG0Wf0JhbPXVcIPm2hnFFIQPrkro/edit?usp=3Dsharing
  *   Comparison between version -01 and -02: https://docs.google.com/docum=
ent/d/19xidbplhn5gPr41QdeXBTh2WLhoA9kbhNieZiSh0Uyk/edit?usp=3Dsharing

Also, to clarify:

  *   The intent of the charter revision is not a complete overhaul but mor=
e to capture more recent activities the RG has engaged into and reflect tha=
t in an update of the original charter together with a work plan.
You can see in the comparison, that the first part (original charter) has n=
ot been changed.

Thank you.
Best regards, Laurent.


From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 06:46
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org
Subject: Comments welcome on revised NMRG charter

Hi NMRG,

J=E9r=F4me and I have been working on a new version of the NMRG charter to =
capture better the current shape and activity of the RG.

We'd like to receive comments from the community. This is on the agenda of =
the session on Friday.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14eHQALG95VHE5N-YIAwH6vriKFG2WvI8d63Ttug=
ZLgU/edit?usp=3Dsharing

Thank you.
Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.

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Hello,


 


In addition to the previous email, a f=
ew additional links for your convenience:



 


Also, to clarify:



    

  • 
=
The intent of the charter revision is not a complete overhaul but more to c=
apture more recent activities the RG has engaged into and reflect that in a=
n update of the original charter together with
 a work plan.


You can see=
 in the comparison, that the first part (original charter) has not been cha=
nged.


 


Thank you.


Best regards, Laurent.


 


 








From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa=
clay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>


Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 06:46

To: nmrg@irtf.org

Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org

Subject: Comments welcome on revised NMRG charter






 


Hi NMRG,


 


J=E9r=F4me and I have been working on a new version =
of the NMRG charter to capture better the current shape and activity of the=
 RG.


 


We'd like to receive comments from the community. Th=
is is on the agenda of the session on Friday.


 


https://docs.goo=
gle.com/document/d/14eHQALG95VHE5N-YIAwH6vriKFG2WvI8d63TtugZLgU/edit?usp=3D=
sharing


 


Thank you.


Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.








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Dear all,

As requested by the NMRG chairs in the session right now, I'm forwarding 
this email, sent to OPSAWG.

We updated the drafts, based on the feedback received so far.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture/, 
version 1
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang/, 
version 2

Regards, Benoit

> Dear all,
>
> Let me introduce these two new drafts:
>     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00
>     - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-01
>
> The first document describes the architecture for Service Assurance 
> for Intent-based Networking (SAIN). This architecture aims at assuring 
> that service instances are correctly running. As services rely on 
> multiple sub-services by the underlying network devices, getting the 
> assurance of a healthy service is only possible with a holistic view 
> of network devices. This architecture not only helps to correlate the 
> service degradation with the network root cause but also the impacted 
> services impacted when a network component fails or degrades.
>
> This second document complements the architecture by providing open 
> interfaces between components, meaning YANG modules.
>
> Feel free to read, review, and provide your feedback.
>
> Regards, Jean & Benoit
>
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    Dear all,

    

    As requested by the NMRG chairs in the session right now, I'm
    forwarding this email, sent to OPSAWG.

    


      
 We updated the drafts, based on the
        feedback received so far.

        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture/,
        version 1

        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang/,
        version 2

        

        Regards, Benoit

        

      

      

        
        Dear all,

        

        Let me introduce these two new drafts:

            - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-00

            - draft-claise-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-01

        

        The first document describes the architecture for Service
        Assurance for Intent-based Networking (SAIN). This architecture
        aims at assuring that service instances are correctly running.
        As services rely on multiple sub-services by the underlying
        network devices, getting the assurance of a healthy service is
        only possible with a holistic view of network devices. This
        architecture not only helps to correlate the service degradation
        with the network root cause but also the impacted services
        impacted when a network component fails or degrades.

        

        This second document complements the architecture by providing
        open interfaces between components, meaning YANG modules.

        

        Feel free to read, review, and provide your feedback.

        

        Regards, Jean & Benoit

        

        

        
_______________________________________________
OPSAWG mailing list
OPSAWG@ietf.org
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As some of you remembe=
r, we asked during the Singapore meeting for adoption of draft-li-nmrg-inte=
nt-classification-02 as an RG draft. After voting, all of those who read it=
 agreed that the draft is very useful.
 You also mentioned that we need to potentially address some additional rev=
iew comments. Could everyone who has any comments please share them with us=
. Laurent, Jerome, could you please share your comments as well? Also, plea=
se let us know what comments you
 think must be addressed in for v2 to be adopted, versus what comments we c=
an address in v3, currently planned for March/April.


Best Regards,


Olga 


 







From: Olga Havel


Sent: Monday 18 November 2019 14:23

To: 'nmrg@irtf.org' <nmrg@irtf.org>

Cc: 'draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification@ietf.org' <draft-li-nmrg=
-intent-classification@ietf.org>

Subject: New Version Notification for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classific=
ation-02.txt






 


Hi,


 


We’ve just uploaded 02 version of intent class=
ification draft (https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf=
t-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt)
 according to the comments in the list and offline discussions. =



 


Updates from previous version from July:



1.      &nbs=
p;           
Addressed Brain’s comments about “Addin=
g solid use cases”. Addressed by adding use cases in section 3.2.



2.      &nbs=
p;           
Addressed Diego’s commen=
ts about “Provide a framework for further intent evolution”.&nb=
sp; Addressed by adding a new draft: draft-sun-nmrg-intent-framework-00



3.      &nbs=
p;           
Addressed Laurent’s comm=
ents “Suggest to use parameter/classification table to do classificat=
ion”. Addressed by adding the whole Section 5 with classification tab=
les for Carrier, DC and Enterprise.




4.      &nbs=
p;           
Addressed comments from Ericsson “Classify based on granularity is not accurate, may change granul=
arity to abstraction of service description”. Addressed by changing S=
ection 4.2 from Granularity Section to Feedback
 Section and adding column Abstraction to the classification table.<=
o:p>



5.      &nbs=
p;           
Chapters 5 and 6 became 6 and =
7, as a result of adding new chapter 5




6.      &nbs=
p;           
Section 7: Added explanation a=
bout AI related content



7.      &nbs=
p;           
Moved the sections of Policy C=
ontinuum and AI after the section for Intent Classification Table



8.      &nbs=
p;           
Updated contributors



9.      &nbs=
p;           
Fixed document format and typo=
s


 


Your comments and contributions are welcome!.


 


Best Regards,


Olga






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So how does this interact with draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03?

I personally find the big tables confusing and not very helpful to
understand the concepts. But perhaps my problem is not classification
of intent but looking for a good and concise definition of what is
intent, what is not intent, how intent relates to prior art on
(declarative) policy languages (or is intent just a new name?)  In
that direction, I find draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03 clearer and
more useful.

/js

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 04:51:50PM +0000, Olga Havel wrote:
> Hi,
> As some of you remember, we asked during the Singapore meeting for adopti=
on of draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02 as an RG draft. After voting, =
all of those who read it agreed that the draft is very useful. You also men=
tioned that we need to potentially address some additional review comments.=
 Could everyone who has any comments please share them with us. Laurent, Je=
rome, could you please share your comments as well? Also, please let us kno=
w what comments you think must be addressed in for v2 to be adopted, versus=
 what comments we can address in v3, currently planned for March/April.
> Best Regards,
> Olga
>=20
> From: Olga Havel
> Sent: Monday 18 November 2019 14:23
> To: 'nmrg@irtf.org' 
> Cc: 'draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification@ietf.org' 
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification=
-02.txt
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
>=20
> We've just uploaded 02 version of intent classification draft (https://ww=
w.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt) acco=
rding to the comments in the list and offline discussions.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Updates from previous version from July:
> 1.                   Addressed Brain's comments about "Adding solid use c=
ases". Addressed by adding use cases in section 3.2.
> 2.                   Addressed Diego's comments about "Provide a framewor=
k for further intent evolution".  Addressed by adding a new draft: draft-su=
n-nmrg-intent-framework-00
> 3.                   Addressed Laurent's comments "Suggest to use paramet=
er/classification table to do classification". Addressed by adding the whol=
e Section 5 with classification tables for Carrier, DC and Enterprise.
> 4.                   Addressed comments from Ericsson "Classify based on =
granularity is not accurate, may change granularity to abstraction of servi=
ce description". Addressed by changing Section 4.2 from Granularity Section=
 to Feedback Section and adding column Abstraction to the classification ta=
ble.
> 5.                   Chapters 5 and 6 became 6 and 7, as a result of addi=
ng new chapter 5
> 6.                   Section 7: Added explanation about AI related conten=
t
> 7.                   Moved the sections of Policy Continuum and AI after =
the section for Intent Classification Table
> 8.                   Updated contributors
> 9.                   Fixed document format and typos
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Your comments and contributions are welcome!.
>=20
>=20
> Best Regards,
> Olga

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Hi J=FCrgen,

Thank you very much for your comments. As draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03 a=
ddressed the differences between the policy, intent and service models, we =
did not address the same. This draft is about intent classification but we =
could add definition here, thank you for your suggestion. Initially we want=
ed to communicate that intent may be different thing for different users in=
 different solutions. But we said in our presentation that the next steps f=
or v3 is: 'Work with community to derive unified intent definition that enc=
ompasses all intent types for all solutions and intent users.'

We added tables based on Laurent's comments (this was the addition from the=
 v1) , and the goal was to include in some tabular form the text that was i=
n the document. Laurent suggested to use the table to position the PoCs / t=
ools, identifying what intent types / categories they address.

Maybe we can together agree the definition of intent that could be used in =
NMRG and we can add it to our draft. What about the following as just a sta=
rting point for discussion in the group:

Intents are objectives of the network users, expressed in the form suitable=
 for different user types. Intents represent what the users require from a =
network and not how these objectives are resolved, realized, configured and=
 assured on the network.=20

Any comments are welcome, would be great to start discussion.=20

Best Regards,
Olga


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From: Sch=F6nw=E4lder, J=FCrgen [mailto:J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.d=
e]=20
Sent: Thursday 28 November 2019 17:24
To: Olga Havel 
Cc: nmrg@irtf.org; draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification@ietf.org; Ciavaglia,=
 Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) ; jerome.fr=
ancois@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [nmrg] New Version Notification for draft-li-nmrg-intent-class=
ification-02.txt

So how does this interact with draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03?

I personally find the big tables confusing and not very helpful to understa=
nd the concepts. But perhaps my problem is not classification of intent but=
 looking for a good and concise definition of what is intent, what is not i=
ntent, how intent relates to prior art on
(declarative) policy languages (or is intent just a new name?)  In that dir=
ection, I find draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03 clearer and more useful.

/js

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 04:51:50PM +0000, Olga Havel wrote:
> Hi,
> As some of you remember, we asked during the Singapore meeting for adopti=
on of draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02 as an RG draft. After voting, =
all of those who read it agreed that the draft is very useful. You also men=
tioned that we need to potentially address some additional review comments.=
 Could everyone who has any comments please share them with us. Laurent, Je=
rome, could you please share your comments as well? Also, please let us kno=
w what comments you think must be addressed in for v2 to be adopted, versus=
 what comments we can address in v3, currently planned for March/April.
> Best Regards,
> Olga
>=20
> From: Olga Havel
> Sent: Monday 18 November 2019 14:23
> To: 'nmrg@irtf.org' 
> Cc: 'draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification@ietf.org'=20
> 
> Subject: New Version Notification for=20
> draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
>=20
> We've just uploaded 02 version of intent classification draft (https://ww=
w.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt) acco=
rding to the comments in the list and offline discussions.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Updates from previous version from July:
> 1.                   Addressed Brain's comments about "Adding solid use c=
ases". Addressed by adding use cases in section 3.2.
> 2.                   Addressed Diego's comments about "Provide a framewor=
k for further intent evolution".  Addressed by adding a new draft: draft-su=
n-nmrg-intent-framework-00
> 3.                   Addressed Laurent's comments "Suggest to use paramet=
er/classification table to do classification". Addressed by adding the whol=
e Section 5 with classification tables for Carrier, DC and Enterprise.
> 4.                   Addressed comments from Ericsson "Classify based on =
granularity is not accurate, may change granularity to abstraction of servi=
ce description". Addressed by changing Section 4.2 from Granularity Section=
 to Feedback Section and adding column Abstraction to the classification ta=
ble.
> 5.                   Chapters 5 and 6 became 6 and 7, as a result of addi=
ng new chapter 5
> 6.                   Section 7: Added explanation about AI related conten=
t
> 7.                   Moved the sections of Policy Continuum and AI after =
the section for Intent Classification Table
> 8.                   Updated contributors
> 9.                   Fixed document format and typos
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Your comments and contributions are welcome!.
>=20
>=20
> Best Regards,
> Olga

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A sensible way may be considerate posting: if a topic is truly core to
the research group, such as the ACM CoNEXT ENCP workshpo for COIN, this
is fine, IMO.  Same goes for ACM ICN on the ICNRG list.

But it is usually considered a sign of degeneration when list traffic
is dominated by (random) CFPs.  So, I would consider it important that
we lead by positive example. And the RG chairs should tell in private
that they are misbehaving.

Jörg

On 29.11.19 09:37, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wrote:
> We also have a policy in NMRG but the issue I've observed is that the 
> sender is often not aware of it and it's difficult to make them aware 
> before posting.
> 
> So, unless there is prior approval of the emails, most of the times the 
> policy cannot be enforced.
> 
> Best regards, Laurent.
> 
> *From:*Coin  *On Behalf Of *Marie-Jose Montpetit
> *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2019 08:51
> *To:* Carsten Bormann 
> *Cc:* Lars Eggert ; coin@irtf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Coin] CFPs
> 
> I will sound apologetic but I know that we have people on the list who 
> may not receive all the CFPs we do… But then I know who they are and 
> could manage the announcements otherwise.
> 
> mjm
> 
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> 
> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
> 
> mariejose@mjmontpetit.com 
> 
> mariejo@mit.edu 
> 
> On November 29, 2019 at 8:49:22 AM, Carsten Bormann (cabo@tzi.org 
> ) wrote:
> 
>     Note that different RGs may have different policies here, as it is
>     sometimes useful to be a bit more nuanced:
> 
>     https://t2trg.github.io/CFP-POLICY
> 
>     Grüße, Carsten
> 
> 
>     > On Nov 29, 2019, at 08:18, Marie-Jose Montpetit > wrote:
>     > 
>     > Sorry. Will stop. 
>     > 
>     > mjm 
>     > 
>     > Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. 
>     > Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory 
>     > mariejose@mjmontpetit..com 
>     > mariejo@mit.edu 
>     > 
>     > On November 29, 2019 at 7:55:10 AM, Lars Eggert (lars@eggert.org ) wrote:
>     > 
>     >> Hi, 
>     >> 
>     >> I don't find CFP postings terribly useful on IRTF lists. Don't we all get too many of those already?
>     >> 
>     >> Lars 
>     >> -- 
>     >> Coin mailing list 
>     >> Coin@irtf.org 
>     >> https://www.irtf..org/mailman/listinfo/coin
> 
> 


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We seem to be good a finding issues that go beyond COIN :) There is a
sensible solution there.

mjm

Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.
Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
mariejose@mjmontpetit.com
mariejo@mit.edu

On November 29, 2019 at 12:02:31 PM, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia -
FR/Paris-Saclay) (laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com) wrote:

Agreed.
One issue faced it that most of the time senders are not regular RG
participants but publicity chairs for the event, thus telling them in
private about the policy or else, is not helping in limiting new posts from
others.

Should there be a filter on keywords [CFP] to steer the incoming email to
mailing list admins for approval?

-Laurent.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joerg Ott 
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 10:27
> To: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
> ; Marie-Jose Montpetit
> ; Carsten Bormann 
> Cc: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois ; Lars Egger=
t
> ; nmrg@irtf.org; coin@irtf.org
> Subject: Re: [Coin] CFPs
>
> A sensible way may be considerate posting: if a topic is truly core to
> the research group, such as the ACM CoNEXT ENCP workshpo for COIN, this
> is fine, IMO. Same goes for ACM ICN on the ICNRG list.
>
> But it is usually considered a sign of degeneration when list traffic
> is dominated by (random) CFPs. So, I would consider it important that
> we lead by positive example. And the RG chairs should tell in private
> that they are misbehaving.
>
> J=C3=B6rg
>
> On 29.11.19 09:37, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wrote:
> > We also have a policy in NMRG but the issue I've observed is that the
> > sender is often not aware of it and it's difficult to make them aware
> > before posting.
> >
> > So, unless there is prior approval of the emails, most of the times the
> > policy cannot be enforced.
> >
> > Best regards, Laurent.
> >
> > *From:*Coin  *On Behalf Of *Marie-Jose Montpetit
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2019 08:51
> > *To:* Carsten Bormann 
> > *Cc:* Lars Eggert ; coin@irtf.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Coin] CFPs
> >
> > I will sound apologetic but I know that we have people on the list who
> > may not receive all the CFPs we do=E2=80=A6 But then I know who they ar=
e and
> > could manage the announcements otherwise.
> >
> > mjm
> >
> > Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.
> >
> > Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
> >
> > mariejose@mjmontpetit.com 
> >
> > mariejo@mit.edu 
> >
> > On November 29, 2019 at 8:49:22 AM, Carsten Bormann (cabo@tzi.org
> > ) wrote:
> >
> > Note that different RGs may have different policies here, as it is
> > sometimes useful to be a bit more nuanced:
> >
> > https://t2trg.github.io/CFP-POLICY
> >
> > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 29, 2019, at 08:18, Marie-Jose Montpetit
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry. Will stop.
> > >
> > > mjm
> > >
> > > Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.
> > > Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
> > > mariejose@mjmontpetit..com 
> > > mariejo@mit.edu 
> > >
> > > On November 29, 2019 at 7:55:10 AM, Lars Eggert (lars@eggert.org
> ) wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I don't find CFP postings terribly useful on IRTF lists. Don't we
> all get too many of those already?
> > >>
> > >> Lars
> > >> --
> > >> Coin mailing list
> > >> Coin@irtf.org 
> > >> https://www.irtf..org/mailman/listinfo/coin
> >
> >

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=

We s=
eem to be good a finding issues that go beyond COIN :) There is a sensible =
solution there.

mjm=

 
 
Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.=

Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
 
On November 29, 2019 at 12:02:31 PM, Ciavaglia, Laurent (No=
kia - FR/Paris-Saclay) (laur=
ent.ciavaglia@nokia.com) wrote:
 
Agreed.

One issue faced it that most of the time senders are not regular RG par=
ticipants but publicity chairs for the event, thus telling them in private =
about the policy or else, is not helping in limiting new posts from others.



Should there be a filter on keywords [CFP] to steer the incoming email =
to mailing list admins for approval?



-Laurent.



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Joerg Ott <ott@in.tum.de=
>

> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 10:27

> To: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)

> <laurent.ciavagl=
ia@nokia.com>; Marie-Jose Montpetit

> <marie@mjmontpetit.com=
>; Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org<=
/a>>

> Cc: J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois <jerome.francois@inria.fr>; Lars Eggert

> <lars@eggert.org>; nmrg@irtf.org; coin@irtf.org

> Subject: Re: [Coin] CFPs

> =20

> A sensible way may be considerate posting: if a topic is truly cor=
e to

> the research group, such as the ACM CoNEXT ENCP workshpo for COIN,=
 this

> is fine, IMO.  Same goes for ACM ICN on the ICNRG list.

> =20

> But it is usually considered a sign of degeneration when list traf=
fic

> is dominated by (random) CFPs.  So, I would consider it important =
that

> we lead by positive example. And the RG chairs should tell in priv=
ate

> that they are misbehaving.

> =20

> J=C3=B6rg

> =20

> On 29.11.19 09:37, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wr=
ote:

> > We also have a policy in NMRG but the issue I've observed=
 is that the

> > sender is often not aware of it and it's difficult to mak=
e them aware

> > before posting.

> >

> > So, unless there is prior approval of the emails, most of the=
 times the

> > policy cannot be enforced.

> >

> > Best regards, Laurent.

> >

> > *From:*Coin <coin=
-bounces@irtf.org> *On Behalf Of *Marie-Jose Montpetit

> > *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2019 08:51

> > *To:* Carsten Bormann <cab=
o@tzi.org>

> > *Cc:* Lars Eggert <lars=
@eggert.org>; coin@irtf.org

> > *Subject:* Re: [Coin] CFPs

> >

> > I will sound apologetic but I know that we have people on the=
 list who

> > may not receive all the CFPs we do=E2=80=A6 But then I know w=
ho they are and

> > could manage the announcements otherwise.

> >

> > mjm

> >

> > Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.

> >

> > Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory

> >

> > mariejose@mjmont=
petit.com <mailto:marie=
jose@mjmontpetit.com>

> >

> > mariejo@mit.edu <ma=
ilto:mariejo@mit.edu>

> >

> > On November 29, 2019 at 8:49:22 AM, Carsten Bormann (cabo@tzi.org

> > <mailto:cabo@tzi.org&g=
t;) wrote:

> >

> >     Note that different RGs may have different policies here,=
 as it is

> >     sometimes useful to be a bit more nuanced:

> >

> >     https://t2=
trg.github.io/CFP-POLICY

> >

> >     Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

> >

> >

> >     > On Nov 29, 2019, at 08:18, Marie-Jose Montpetit

> <marie@mjmontpetit.com=
 <mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.=
com>> wrote:

> >     >

> >     > Sorry. Will stop.

> >     >

> >     > mjm

> >     >

> >     > Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit, Ph.D.

> >     > Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory

> >     > mariejose@mjmontpetit..com <mailto:mariejose@mjmontpetit.com>

> >     > mariejo@mit.edu <mailto:mariejo@mit.edu>

> >     >

> >     > On November 29, 2019 at 7:55:10 AM, Lars Eggert (lars@eggert.org

> <mailto:lars@eggert.org&=
gt;) wrote:

> >     >

> >     >> Hi,

> >     >>

> >     >> I don't find CFP postings terribly useful on=
 IRTF lists. Don't we

> all get too many of those already?

> >     >>

> >     >> Lars

> >     >> --

> >     >> Coin mailing list

> >     >> Coin@irtf.org <mailto:Coin@irtf.org>

> >     >> https://www.irtf.<=
/a>.org/mailman/listinfo/coin

> >

> >



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Subject: Re: [nmrg] New Version Notification for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 06:27:56PM +0000, Olga Havel wrote:
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> Maybe we can together agree the definition of intent that could be used i=
n NMRG and we can add it to our draft. What about the following as just a s=
tarting point for discussion in the group:
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> Intents are objectives of the network users, expressed in the form suitab=
le for different user types. Intents represent what the users require from =
a network and not how these objectives are resolved, realized, configured a=
nd assured on the network.=20
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> Any comments are welcome, would be great to start discussion.=20

I believe draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent should define the terminology
and concepts and not the classification draft. I do not support the
adoption of the classification draft until we adopt the other draft
and have agreement that draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent will be the one
defining terminology and concepts. Having multiple definitions in
different drafts can't be our goal.

/js

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On Nov 29, 2019, at 12:02, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) =
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> Should there be a filter on keywords [CFP] to steer the incoming email =
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Auto-moderating CFPs is a good idea; unfortunately I don=E2=80=99t see a =
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Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten