From nobody Mon May 4 01:00:13 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228691ACDC9; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:00:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CmpC-OI0OqOx; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF6D1ACDC3; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:00:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 01:00:10 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 08:00:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. Title : How to Write an RTP Payload Format Author : Magnus Westerlund Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt Pages : 60 Date : 2015-05-04 Abstract: This document contains information on how to best write an RTP payload format specification. It provides reading tips, design practices, and practical tips on how to produce an RTP payload format specification quickly and with good results. A template is also included with instructions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon May 4 01:03:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1DB1ACDC7 for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:03:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R75nLuM9JYwF for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1365D1ACDC6 for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 01:03:54 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-f798d6d0000009ec-33-554727e870d5 Received: from ESESSHC012.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sesbmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 8D.51.02540.8E727455; Mon, 4 May 2015 10:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.210.2; Mon, 4 May 2015 10:03:52 +0200 Message-ID: <554727E7.4040009@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:03:51 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupjluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3RveFunuowZUlphaXLp5lcmD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXRt+PNqaCD0IVl06/YGtg/M3XxcjJISFgInHu8B0mCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgJHGSVe9rczQjjLGCUudb5lB6niFdCWeNM5jRnEZhFQkbi8dS0riM0mYCFx80cj G4gtKhAlMfHrIRaIekGJkzOfgNkiQBsevj8L1iss4Cbx8tJ9sJlCAg4SH1/8BevlFHCUODxx FVCcg4NZwF7iwdYykDCzgLxE89bZzBDl2hINTR2sExgFZiHZMAuhYxaSjgWMzKsYRYtTi5Ny 042M9FKLMpOLi/Pz9PJSSzYxAgPw4JbfBjsYXz53PMQowMGoxMO74JJbqBBrYllxZe4hRmkO FiVxXjvjQyFCAumJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5qcWHGJk4OKUaGGdfWbtB43L785+77cVkbad1WClf KL9hueaRzJRE7nW/72/f/f/4v59WKx1nM1hdWexzSTHph5xHYlR1xAz+WVqf6peavdS+vzn9 6vwSPu/3EpJdr3pfWrczz3nsskJQmGFPBfO3zZ1Bab3JHnunfpwbq7ek/qTw3bsv6reUV5Y4 Om1bY/mmS0KJpTgj0VCLuag4EQB5+U3jIQIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 08:03:57 -0000 WG, This version updates the boiler plate security consideration based on the discussion a few weeks back. I also replaced references to drafts with their published RFCs. I do note that XML2RFC appears to have updated its practice in line folding URIs, which results in some additional diff changes. Cheers Magnus internet-drafts@ietf.org skrev den 2015-05-04 10:00: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : How to Write an RTP Payload Format > Author : Magnus Westerlund > Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt > Pages : 60 > Date : 2015-05-04 > > Abstract: > This document contains information on how to best write an RTP > payload format specification. It provides reading tips, design > practices, and practical tips on how to produce an RTP payload format > specification quickly and with good results. A template is also > included with instructions. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > payload mailing list > payload@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Thu May 7 05:32:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A241A88ED for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B_KI3B3bVISX for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 05:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7EEB1A88DE for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 05:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgin8 with SMTP id n8so41953761wgi.0 for ; Thu, 07 May 2015 05:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=YqjFh2mh0ncGs8vU9JZsmBRk+QaUXhLjwkYhW3DD5mI=; b=vvKs539gIwXBUHN4rjvZXRJ7gblYkMdyLjij4JD8jPJBJTRxIIAD2Hz03u3w8/2YGm UxAjMp43Pq2Ch3bRCRTTIko53bLyv+pZETuPMP40FZ4zfBASnhdiEwLEvvHSWYqLvprW cX4HMyZjQYg+by/AEeLsI+wNjNc/nh7mO/NinG0BgXJ+PpMzCutDG1V/LACTDxdWfQpQ EpGtvxQ6WLkj5jcxSEl75OsxmLdzt5xl8YbrcvGQJ9C6PXa8UIcZC+6k+sDMogWAS6zf IoVX4/HTSON/mxFB/PeNyJUHiRCK1RUItqAiw3mC3K+tWuLCb1x3uVWb35N7K53Bq95i m88A== X-Received: by 10.194.60.67 with SMTP id f3mr7222906wjr.28.1431001944504; Thu, 07 May 2015 05:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniE (bzq-109-65-181-16.red.bezeqint.net. [109.65.181.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l6sm3248099wjz.4.2015.05.07.05.32.22 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 May 2015 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 15:32:19 +0300 Message-ID: <07a901d088c1$dddda320$9998e960$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_07AA_01D088DB.032ADB20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdCIv0yqnr0p8d0gTOOYCfzRoovRvQ== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265@tools.ietf.org Subject: [payload] WGLC for H.265 - RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Coding X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 12:32:27 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_07AA_01D088DB.032ADB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WG, The document went to publication but since there were technical changes we will have another WGLC before the AD will progress the document. We are starting the second WGLC for the RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Coding (H.265) draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 The WGLC is for three weeks till May 28th ( a bit long to allow for enough time for reviews) The version that was sent to publication was the 06 version Please send your comments and approvals to the payload list. Thanks Roni Even Payload co-chair ------=_NextPart_000_07AA_01D088DB.032ADB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The document went to publication but since there were = technical changes we will have another WGLC before the AD will progress = the document.

We are starting the second   WGLC for the RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Coding = (H.265) draft http:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 =

The WGLC is for three weeks till May 28th  ( = a bit long to allow for enough time for reviews)

The version that was sent to publication was the 06 = version

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Roni = Even

Payload = co-chair

 

------=_NextPart_000_07AA_01D088DB.032ADB20-- From nobody Fri May 8 00:15:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E581ACDE2; Fri, 8 May 2015 00:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0W2mHX3TWQYe; Fri, 8 May 2015 00:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681831ACDDB; Fri, 8 May 2015 00:15:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150508071503.21068.15447.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 00:15:03 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-00.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 07:15:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data Author : Thomas G. Edwards Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2015-05-07 Abstract: This memo describes an RTP Payload format for SMPTE Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, KLV metadata, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon May 11 18:46:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8971B2B31; Mon, 11 May 2015 18:46:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nBlrBDD2e4ll; Mon, 11 May 2015 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADD01B2B2E; Mon, 11 May 2015 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150512014643.8549.4982.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 18:46:43 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-g7110-06.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 01:46:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for G.711.0 Authors : Michael A. Ramalho Paul E. Jones Noboru Harada Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Lei Miao Filename : draft-ietf-payload-g7110-06.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2015-05-11 Abstract: This document specifies the Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) payload format for ITU-T Recommendation G.711.0. ITU-T Rec. G.711.0 defines a lossless and stateless compression for G.711 packet payloads typically used in IP networks. This document also defines a storage mode format for G.711.0 and a media type registration for the G.711.0 RTP payload format. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-g7110/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-g7110-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-g7110-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue May 12 10:56:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17201ACDE3 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 10:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LH366iAVS5DH for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 10:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02CE11ACDBE for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.239.2.42]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 8DB38D7B9F2A4; Tue, 12 May 2015 17:56:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t4CHub9X027482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 May 2015 19:56:38 +0200 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.203]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 12 May 2015 19:56:38 +0200 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: Magnus Westerlund , "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt Thread-Index: AQHQhkBiloZGn9XB70urI9BNyl0fSp1rU66AgA1ZDaA= Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:56:36 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B69713E8A@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <554727E7.4040009@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <554727E7.4040009@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:56:52 -0000 The datatracker contains no evidence of why this change occurred after appr= oval, or at least I could find nothing. The latest record is the approval o= f the -13 version, and nothing in relation to the -14 version. Could we find a relevant way of documenting this, and the approval process. Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: payload [mailto:payload-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Magnus Westerlund > Sent: 04 May 2015 09:04 > To: payload@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt >=20 > WG, >=20 > This version updates the boiler plate security consideration=20 > based on the discussion a few weeks back. I also replaced=20 > references to drafts with their published RFCs. >=20 > I do note that XML2RFC appears to have updated its practice=20 > in line folding URIs, which results in some additional diff changes. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Magnus >=20 >=20 > internet-drafts@ietf.org skrev den 2015-05-04 10:00: > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line=20 > Internet-Drafts directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport=20 > Payloads Working Group of the IETF. > > > > Title : How to Write an RTP Payload Format > > Author : Magnus Westerlund > > Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt > > Pages : 60 > > Date : 2015-05-04 > > > > Abstract: > > This document contains information on how to best write an RTP > > payload format specification. It provides reading tips, design > > practices, and practical tips on how to produce an RTP=20 > payload format > > specification quickly and with good results. A template is also > > included with instructions. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto/ > > > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are=20 > available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > payload mailing list > > payload@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Magnus Westerlund >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > payload mailing list > payload@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > = From nobody Tue May 12 11:09:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9B31A8709 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:09:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lPgkZMMTod6X for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-4.cisco.com (alln-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.142.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1571A1A25 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5670; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1431454176; x=1432663776; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=inPbxZOQqiKjufUkkrSD4Bc72zlY/HBEIw6ehxkob/E=; b=Mxhr8lbLZAk8LIUgIyH7luV/xrz21bVtA5HXTPmbpKLIq137fr6bFlYo hYACftq/utG5Vgtu2/+T/g2gep3MdjOfOlAfJt1iyBh3mP3PNI3+1morP 6p0fD2UljyAmmKpY5mDT2RSWgu8/YrvMFz7q/N48yV2Pgi0cki8pPllwk s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BlBABTQVJV/5JdJa1cgw9UXgaCUkbCCwmBTgqFN04CHIEhOBQBAQEBAQEBgQqEIAEBAQQBAQEJFxE6BBMCAgIBBgIRAwEBAQMCIwMCAgIZDAsUAQgIAgQBEogsDZkdnQeTagEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARcEgR2JFoEChFIYIgaCYi+BFgWGYotrhCWGRoEkPoMgkWgjggkcgVJvgUWBAQEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,416,1427760000"; d="scan'208";a="149478118" Received: from rcdn-core-10.cisco.com ([173.37.93.146]) by alln-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 May 2015 18:09:35 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x08.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x08.cisco.com [173.37.183.82]) by rcdn-core-10.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t4CI9YaH017945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 May 2015 18:09:34 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x01.cisco.com ([169.254.2.87]) by xhc-rcd-x08.cisco.com ([173.37.183.82]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 12 May 2015 13:09:33 -0500 From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" , Magnus Westerlund , "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt Thread-Index: AQHQhkBbIxFce3thAkuzrJ4YbfsZpp1ryQeAgA04RACAADXiAA== Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 18:09:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <554727E7.4040009@ericsson.com> <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B69713E8A@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B69713E8A@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/15.9.0.150408 x-originating-ip: [10.86.245.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video 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(GMT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t4CJ7rT2019492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 May 2015 21:07:54 +0200 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.203]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 12 May 2015 21:07:53 +0200 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" , Magnus Westerlund , "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt Thread-Index: AQHQhkBiloZGn9XB70urI9BNyl0fSp1rU66AgA1ZDaD//+LUAIAAMaIg Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 19:07:53 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B69713F12@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20150504080010.4231.72625.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <554727E7.4040009@ericsson.com> <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B69713E8A@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 19:07:58 -0000 No I did not have a concern with the change. I do have a concern that this is no documentation in the datatracker. Keith=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ali C. Begen (abegen) [mailto:abegen@cisco.com]=20 > Sent: 12 May 2015 19:10 > To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Magnus Westerlund; payload@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt >=20 > Well, the revision has been made after a long discussion with=20 > the IESG members and secdir folks during the approval of the=20 > opus draft.=20 >=20 > Do you have a concern about this? I think it was useful that=20 > the authors did not wait for the auth48 to make this change=20 > as there are active drafts who are referring to this=20 > guideline in developing their drafts. So, the sooner we have=20 > this in the boilerplate, the better it is. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:56 PM > To: Magnus Westerlund, "payload@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt >=20 > >The datatracker contains no evidence of why this change=20 > occurred after approval, or at least I could find nothing.=20 > The latest record is the approval of the -13 version, and=20 > nothing in relation to the -14 version. > > > >Could we find a relevant way of documenting this, and the=20 > approval process. > > > >Keith > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: payload [mailto:payload-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf=20 > Of Magnus=20 > >> Westerlund > >> Sent: 04 May 2015 09:04 > >> To: payload@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action:=20 > >> draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt > >>=20 > >> WG, > >>=20 > >> This version updates the boiler plate security=20 > consideration based on=20 > >> the discussion a few weeks back. I also replaced=20 > references to drafts=20 > >> with their published RFCs. > >>=20 > >> I do note that XML2RFC appears to have updated its=20 > practice in line=20 > >> folding URIs, which results in some additional diff changes. > >>=20 > >> Cheers > >>=20 > >> Magnus > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> internet-drafts@ietf.org skrev den 2015-05-04 10:00: > >> > > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > >> Internet-Drafts directories. > >> > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport > >> Payloads Working Group of the IETF. > >> > > >> > Title : How to Write an RTP Payload Format > >> > Author : Magnus Westerlund > >> > Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14.txt > >> > Pages : 60 > >> > Date : 2015-05-04 > >> > > >> > Abstract: > >> > This document contains information on how to best=20 > write an RTP > >> > payload format specification. It provides reading=20 > tips, design > >> > practices, and practical tips on how to produce an RTP > >> payload format > >> > specification quickly and with good results. A=20 > template is also > >> > included with instructions. > >> > > >> > > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto/ > >> > > >> > There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > >> > > >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14 > >> > > >> > > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from=20 > the time of=20 > >> > submission until the htmlized version and diff are > >> available at tools.ietf.org. > >> > > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > payload mailing list > >> > payload@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > >> > > >> > > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> -- > >>=20 > >> Magnus Westerlund > >>=20 > >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM > >>=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > >> F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > >> SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto:=20 > magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > >>=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >>=20 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> payload mailing list > >> payload@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > >>=20 > >_______________________________________________ > >payload mailing list > >payload@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > = From nobody Mon May 25 15:22:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273061A1B5A; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:22:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3X-vwT7ET47; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9F371A7030; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.23] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t4PMMjQp028945 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 25 May 2015 17:22:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.23] From: "Ben Campbell" To: payload@ietf.org, draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265@ietf.org Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: <31DE4E9A-C2A7-41E3-91BE-BADF559F3084@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.1r5084) Archived-At: Subject: [payload] WGLC Feedback for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 22:22:58 -0000 Hi, This is WGLC feedback for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09: *** Substantive *** -- 1.1.4, forbidden_zero_bit, "HEVC declares a value of 1 as a syntax violation." Does that mean that setting the bit is a syntax violation in itself, or that it _indicates_ a syntax violation? As worded, it sound like the former, but later examples seem to suggest the latter. (e.g. last sentence of 4.4.3) -- 4.4.4, "F1, F2" Does this paragraph impoy a requirement for the receiver to ignore non-zero values? If so, it would be good to state it explicitly. -- 4.4.4.2 and 4.5: Has the working group considered whether PACI extensions need a registry? -- 7.1, "max-cbp" "When not present, the value of max-cpb is inferred to..." The analogous statements for previous parameters used a normative MUST. Is there a reason not to be consistent, one way or the other? (Same for max-dpb and max-tr) -- table 1, Legend, last entry: "not usable, when present SHOULD be ignored" Why not MUST? Can you envision circumstances where it might make sense to _not_ ignore them? -- 7.2.3, bullet starting with "Not usable..." Why not MUST? (same as previous comment) -- 7.2.5, 2nd sentence: This is confusing as written. It may not be clear to all readers whether the SHALL NOT after the I.e. Intended as a new normative statement, or an example of the bits of 4566 that do not apply. -- section 9 Please use the updated security considerations boilerplate from draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14. *** Editorial and nits *** -- General: There is a running theme of convoluted sentence structure with lots of nested clauses. At least for me, that makes reading it harder necessary. I've flagged some instances below, but the draft would benefit from an editorial pass to reduce these. (This is not a show-stopper, just a suggestion for potential improvement.) Several figures appear to have alignment problems. -- 1.1.1, "Entropy Encoding" Can there be an informational reference for CABAC? -- 1.1.2, "Profile tier and level", last sentence Long, convoluted sentence. Can it be broken down into a few simpler sentences? -- 1.1.2, "Random access support", first sentence Missing article before "NAL"? -- 1.1.2, "Ultra low delay support" s/ "... these information ..." / "... this information ..." -- 3.1.1, "coded video sequence" definition Convoluted sentence structure -- 4.1, "Marker bit" definition, first sentence. Convoluted sentence structure. The last sentence of the immediately following informative note is also convoluted. -- 4.1, last paragraph: The text has already used the term bitstream quite a bit. Perhaps this note should occur earlier, possibly in the definitions? -- 4.2, "Fragmentation Units (FUs) specified in Section 4.4.3. APs MUST NOT be nested; i.e. an AP MUST NOT contain another AP." That construction gives you redundant 2119 keywords. I suggest the "i.e." clause be stated descriptively, not normatively. (Note: This construction occurs several times) -- 7.2.2, informative note after the bullet starting with "The parameters sprop-max-don-diff..." : First sentence is convoluted. -- 9, 3rd to last paragraph, starting with "Note that the appropriate mechanism..." Isn't this redundant to the first paragraph in section 9? From nobody Tue May 26 13:48:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545411B31BC; Tue, 26 May 2015 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kno2r9LHUM0b; Tue, 26 May 2015 13:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0126.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E50F41B3185; Tue, 26 May 2015 13:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CY1PR0701MB1276.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.160.149.19) by CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.160.149.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.172.22; Tue, 26 May 2015 20:48:08 +0000 Received: from CY1PR0701MB1276.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.149.19]) by CY1PR0701MB1276.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.149.19]) with mapi id 15.01.0172.012; Tue, 26 May 2015 20:48:08 +0000 From: Stephan Wenger To: Ben Campbell , "payload@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] WGLC Feedback for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 Thread-Index: AQHQlzleVQ2EUNilNkOMutwxhnHkBp2ORqcA Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:48:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <31DE4E9A-C2A7-41E3-91BE-BADF559F3084@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <31DE4E9A-C2A7-41E3-91BE-BADF559F3084@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=stewe@stewe.org; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [24.5.177.48] x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR0701MB1274; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(520003)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:CY1PR0701MB1274; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR0701MB1274; x-forefront-prvs: 0588B2BD96 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(51704005)(24454002)(479174004)(199003)(122556002)(2950100001)(54356999)(76176999)(81156007)(5001770100001)(107886002)(92566002)(5001960100002)(101416001)(62966003)(77156002)(2501003)(68736005)(106116001)(102836002)(50986999)(2900100001)(106356001)(561944003)(4001540100001)(105586002)(40100003)(189998001)(36756003)(99286002)(97736004)(2656002)(87936001)(19580395003)(2201001)(86362001)(66066001)(46102003)(64706001)(230783001)(19580405001)(5001860100001)(5001830100001)(5002640100001)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0701MB1274; H:CY1PR0701MB1276.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: stewe.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <3EA43A86A6BB8B4E951AEED0D839CA23@namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: stewe.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 26 May 2015 20:48:06.9602 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 865fc51c-5fae-4322-98ef-0121a85df0b6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR0701MB1274 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] WGLC Feedback for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:48:42 -0000 Hi Ben, One quick answer: On 5/25/15, 15:22, "Ben Campbell" wrote: >[=8A] > >-- 4.4.4.2 and 4.5: > >Has the working group considered whether PACI extensions need a >registry? >[=8A] I can=B9t point you to an explicit meeting report that says =B3No registry needed=B2, but most assuredly the point was discussed. So yes, we did. The PACI extension mechanism as originally proposed (draft-wenger-payload-h265-payload-header-extension-00) already included a reminder that the option of using a registry needs to be discussed. The proposal, however, was not to use a registry, as 1) the allocated code point space was deemed sufficient for future needs, and 2) both H.265 and the payload format are under tight control of the respective organizations (JCT-VC/IETF) and therefore code point clashes are unlikely. Thereafter, Magnus found that the original extension mechanism was broken, and there was a considerable amount of discussion on this subject on the mailing list and in private (approximately March/April 2014). In none of these discussions a need for the use of a registry was asserted. Stephan From nobody Tue May 26 14:24:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27F61B31E4; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:24:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kULK13p-MYln; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E15E1B31DA; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.23] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t4QLOgkq037973 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 26 May 2015 16:24:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.23] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Stephan Wenger" Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:24:42 -0500 Message-ID: <66FB43F1-7CAF-42B7-ACEA-89FD11EF0EFA@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: References: <31DE4E9A-C2A7-41E3-91BE-BADF559F3084@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.1r5084) Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265@ietf.org" , "payload@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [payload] WGLC Feedback for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-09 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:24:55 -0000 Thanks, that answers the question :-) Ben. On 26 May 2015, at 15:48, Stephan Wenger wrote: > Hi Ben, > > One quick answer: > > On 5/25/15, 15:22, "Ben Campbell" wrote: > >> [Š] >> >> -- 4.4.4.2 and 4.5: >> >> Has the working group considered whether PACI extensions need a >> registry? >> [Š] > > > I can¹t point you to an explicit meeting report that says ³No registry > needed², but most assuredly the point was discussed. So yes, we did. > > The PACI extension mechanism as originally proposed > (draft-wenger-payload-h265-payload-header-extension-00) already included a > reminder that the option of using a registry needs to be discussed. The > proposal, however, was not to use a registry, as 1) the allocated code > point space was deemed sufficient for future needs, and 2) both H.265 and > the payload format are under tight control of the respective organizations > (JCT-VC/IETF) and therefore code point clashes are unlikely. > > Thereafter, Magnus found that the original extension mechanism was broken, > and there was a considerable amount of discussion on this subject on the > mailing list and in private (approximately March/April 2014). In none of > these discussions a need for the use of a registry was asserted. > > Stephan From nobody Fri May 29 15:24:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112651A8898; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.112 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.112 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xzud9g7k2uSR; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabertooth02.qualcomm.com (sabertooth02.qualcomm.com [65.197.215.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No 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X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRgJtwyrQ1do; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8811A88D7; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:32:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.3.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150529223229.23013.20253.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:32:29 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:32:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Coding Authors : Ye-Kui Wang Yago Sanchez Thomas Schierl Stephan Wenger Miska M. Hannuksela Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt Pages : 100 Date : 2015-05-29 Abstract: This memo describes an RTP payload format for the video coding standard ITU-T Recommendation H.265 and ISO/IEC International Standard 23008-2, both also known as High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC) and developed by the Joint Collaborative Team on Video Coding (JCT-VC). The RTP payload format allows for packetization of one or more Network Abstraction Layer (NAL) units in each RTP packet payload, as well as fragmentation of a NAL unit into multiple RTP packets. Furthermore, it supports transmission of an HEVC bitstream over a single as well as multiple RTP streams. When multiple RTP streams are used, a single or multiple transports may be utilized. The payload format has wide applicability in videoconferencing, Internet video streaming, and high bit-rate entertainment-quality video, among others. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri May 29 15:39:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F16B1A8AF2 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ngNYbEvvWVLr for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AD871A8AD6 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1432939163; x=1464475163; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=jSFMOTfArHhNEDTkF3txG48rMlyllCZU9Ay1Zh0Mj5o=; b=U/Dq/UwV017agz6sy7OF5GLx9x+DAP5entYcHQGHS4iSoCGazYeFPV8V IHuu5NPUFeMTPKx8X3PupSLZYsBUgtA56oIfZoBfdCzAEcwpNQjxgFW6Y ehMWzEzeb8BfDWxuSFGOJM0eBPQZV7+E3Amo5epu2HTCmCeXGAWw9mAMZ 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5700,7163,7816"; a="213319142" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 May 2015 15:39:22 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,519,1427785200"; d="scan'208";a="897485987" Received: from nasanexm01b.na.qualcomm.com ([10.85.0.82]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 29 May 2015 15:39:21 -0700 Received: from NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com (10.85.0.34) by NASANEXM01B.na.qualcomm.com (10.85.0.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.25; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:39:21 -0700 Received: from NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com ([10.85.0.34]) by NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com ([10.85.0.34]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.021; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:39:21 -0700 From: "Wang, Ye-Kui" To: "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHQml9cTP26/ie/hka2Ge7rI9VBcZ2Tir3Q Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:39:21 +0000 Message-ID: <3ffcf2fc720b4f018328a8835f2929f5@NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com> References: <20150529223229.23013.20253.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150529223229.23013.20253.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [199.106.115.192] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:39:24 -0000 Compared to -09, the changes are for addressing Ben Campbell's reviewing co= mments. The changes are listed or summarized in authors' responses to the c= omments.=20 BR, YK -----Original Message----- From: payload [mailto:payload-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-draft= s@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:32 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Gr= oup of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Codi= ng Authors : Ye-Kui Wang Yago Sanchez Thomas Schierl Stephan Wenger Miska M. Hannuksela Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10.txt Pages : 100 Date : 2015-05-29 Abstract: This memo describes an RTP payload format for the video coding standard ITU-T Recommendation H.265 and ISO/IEC International Standard 23008-2, both also known as High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC) and developed by the Joint Collaborative Team on Video Coding (JCT-VC). The RTP payload format allows for packetization of one or more Network Abstraction Layer (NAL) units in each RTP packet payload, as well as fragmentation of a NAL unit into multiple RTP packets. Furthermore, it supports transmission of an HEVC bitstream over a single as well as multiple RTP streams. When multiple RTP streams are used, a single or multiple transports may be utilized. The payload format has wide applicability in videoconferencing, Internet video streaming, and high bit-rate entertainment-quality video, among others. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-payload-rtp-h265-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ payload mailing list payload@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload