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Hi Thomas

We received several comments (also from the SDP directorate). Could you
please respond to these comments and make the necessary changes for a new
version?

Thanks.


On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Ali C. Begen <acbegen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I am starting a WGLC on the following draft:
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-03.txt
>
> It is a short document. Please review and send any comments to the list by
> May 2nd.
>
> -acbegen (as a co-chair)
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hi Thomas</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">We received several c=
omments (also from the SDP directorate). Could you please respond to these =
comments and make the necessary changes for a new version?</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Thanks.</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Ali C. Begen <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acbegen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">acbegen@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hi everyone<div><br></div><div>I am starting a WGLC on the following draf=
t:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-anci=
llary-03.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-payload-=
rtp-ancillary-03.txt</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It is a short documen=
t. Please review and send any comments to the list by May 2nd.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>-acbegen (as a co-chair)</div></div>
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Den 19. april 2016 15:40, skrev Ali C. Begen:
> I believe this was discussed in the session during Thomas' first
> presentation. The room was somewhat split IIRC. I personally prefer
> application/smpte291 as well but someone had an argument for the video
> mime-type, which I cannot recall right now.

If one wishes to multiplex the video and these packets on the same
SDP-negotiated RTP session without using BUNDLE, the top level mime-type
has to be "video".

Sadly.

> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:11 PM, James Barrett <James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk
> <mailto:James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>     I think that the mime-type should probably not be video/smpte291,
>     but rather application/smpte291. The data carried here isn’t video
>     data, so it seems incorrect to use video as the type.
> 
>     --
>     James P. Weaver (né Barrett)
>     Research Engineer
>     BBC R&D North Lab,
>     Floor 5 Dock House, MediaCity,
>     M50 2LH
>     Tel: +44(0)30 3040-9521 <tel:%2B44%280%2930%203040-9521>
>     e-mail: james.barrett@bbc.co.uk <mailto:james.barrett@bbc.co.uk>
> 
>     > On 19 Apr 2016, at 11:28, Ali C. Begen <acbegen@gmail.com <mailto:acbegen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com <mailto:jonathan@vidyo.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> On Apr 18, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Ali C. Begen <acbegen@gmail.com <mailto:acbegen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hi everyone
>     >>
>     >> I am starting a WGLC on the following draft:
>     >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-03.txt
>     >>
>     >> It is a short document. Please review and send any comments to the list by May 2nd.
>     >
>     > I don’t have the expertise to review the payload format itself.  However, I have several comments about its signaling.
>     >
>     > The offer/answer section is very vague and needs work, assuming anyone cares about using this format with offer/answer. (If no one does, presumably it should say that use with offer/answer is undefined, but that would be unfortunate.)
>     >
>     > No mechanism is given to associate the video/smpte291 streams with their associated video/raw or video/jpeg2000 streams.  In complicated scenarios (multiple video streams, e.g.) some SDP grouping might be necessary to provide this association.
>     >
>     > The RTP clock rate isn’t specified.  Presumably it should be the same as the associated video streams; i.e., normally 90000, but variable for JPEG2000.
>     >
>     > I will let the author respond to these questions. My assumption is that these cases won't be necessary for this payload but I will let the author confirm.
>     >
>     > Chairs: have you sent this document for an SDP directorate review?
>     >
>     > I just did. Thanks.
>     >
>     > -acbegen
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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Dear Mo Zanaty, Giridhar Mandyam, Varun Singh, Ali C. Begen:


An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "RTP
Payload Format for Flexible Forward Error Correction (FEC)"
(draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat
on  and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights
Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2794/). The title of the IPR
disclosure is "Cisco Systems, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to
draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme"


Thank you

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I support this work.

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On 5/25/16, 6:29 AM, "James Barrett" <James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

>What would be the best way to start going about getting a call for
>adoption for draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01? The draft hasn=B9t spawned
>much commentary on the list at this point, and no direct issues in need
>of addressing that I=B9m aware of. It might be useful to get it (or a
>subsequent version) put on the agenda for the July meeting.
>
>
>
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>James P. Weaver (n=E9 Barrett)
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>Floor 5 Dock House, MediaCity,
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>M50 2LH
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>Tel: +44(0)30 3040-9521
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>e-mail: james.barrett@bbc.co.uk
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Subject: [payload] Call for adoption (was Re: draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01)
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Hi everyone

Please have a look at the draft and let the list know whether you support
the adoption by the Payload WG or not. There has been support from two
individual so far, but let's see what the rest of the working group thinks.
Please respond by Friday June 3rd.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01

-acbegen

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:29 PM, James Barrett <James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk>
wrote:

> What would be the best way to start going about getting a call for
> adoption for draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01? The draft hasn=E2=80=99t =
spawned
> much commentary on the list at this point, and no direct issues in need o=
f
> addressing that I=E2=80=99m aware of. It might be useful to get it (or a =
subsequent
> version) put on the agenda for the July meeting.
>
> --
> James P. Weaver (n=C3=A9 Barrett)
> Research Engineer
> BBC R&D North Lab,
> Floor 5 Dock House, MediaCity,
> M50 2LH
> Tel: +44(0)30 3040-9521
> e-mail: james.barrett@bbc.co.uk
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hi everyone</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Please have a look at the=
 draft and let the list know whether you support the adoption by the Payloa=
d WG or not. There has been support from two individual so far, but let&#39=
;s see what the rest of the working group thinks. Please respond by Friday =
June 3rd.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-0=
1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01</a><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">-acbegen=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May=
 25, 2016 at 4:29 PM, James Barrett <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:=
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">What would be the best way to start goin=
g about getting a call for adoption for draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01? =
The draft hasn=E2=80=99t spawned much commentary on the list at this point,=
 and no direct issues in need of addressing that I=E2=80=99m aware of. It m=
ight be useful to get it (or a subsequent version) put on the agenda for th=
e July meeting.<br>
<br>
--<br>
James P. Weaver (n=C3=A9 Barrett)<br>
Research Engineer<br>
BBC R&amp;D North Lab,<br>
Floor 5 Dock House, MediaCity,<br>
M50 2LH<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%280%2930%203040-9521" value=3D"+443030409521">+44=
(0)30 3040-9521</a><br>
e-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:james.barrett@bbc.co.uk">james.barrett@bbc.co.uk<=
/a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
payload mailing list<br>
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<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload</a><br>
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Hello

After reviewing and working with draft-weaver-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01 and
having implemented VC-2 as a VHDL core, I would like to add my support =
for
the adoption of this draft by the Payload Working Group.

Kind regards

Keith Jenkins
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