From nobody Tue Oct 4 14:52:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C734129531; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.996] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MAkN3eljeAxT; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46E2212952F; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.21] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u94Lq0Lp024210 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Oct 2016 16:52:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.21] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Thomas Edwards" Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 16:51:59 -0500 Message-ID: <719D66CF-63FF-42B1-9AAC-66A1D1ECCDA5@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <65AF893B-A752-4D12-AC6F-ABE7DF2DB534@fox.com> References: <245276B7-8A49-450C-A98A-C3026BF0F9E5@nostrum.com> <65AF893B-A752-4D12-AC6F-ABE7DF2DB534@fox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.5r5263) Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary.all@ietf.org" , "payload@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [payload] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-05 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 21:52:04 -0000 Hi, please see my comments (inline). I removed sections that don't seem to need further discussion. Thanks! Ben. On 14 Sep 2016, at 14:45, Thomas Edwards wrote: > I would like to thank the AD for the thorough evaluation! > > I have developed a draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-06 in response to > the AD evaluation, and can submit it if desired. Please submit it when you are ready. draft versions are cheap, and it's easier to use the standard diff tools against a submitted draft. [...] >> Added in first paragraph > > The 6th paragraph says ancillary data flag (ADF) word is not carried > in > this payload.  But > section 2.1, under "horizontal offset" says "A value of 0 means that > the > Ancillary Data > Flag (ADF) of the ANC data packet begins immediately following SAV." > These seem to > conflict--are they talking about something different? > >> The ADF word marks the beginning of an ancillary data packet in SDI. >> Since the ADF may depend on the >> particular SDI interface (SD-SDI versus HD-SDI versus 3G-SDI), we >> feel it is best to leave it out of the RTP >> payload and leave it up to the device that would embed ANC packets >> into the SDI to determine the >> appropriate ADF. (Of course some applications may do away with SDI >> altogether and only use RTP >> and no SDI, in which case the ADF is superfluous). That seems to support the arugment to not carry ADF in the payload, but what about the second part of my comment that talks about the ADF payload of the ANC data? Is that _not_ part of the payload? [...] > > - 3.1, Required Parameters: > "When an ANC RTP stream is to be associated with an RTP video stream, > the RTP timestamp > rates SHOULD be the same to ensure that ANC data packets can be > associated with the > appropriate frame or field." > > Why not MUST? Do you anticipate that there might be situations where > it's reasonable for > the rates not to match? > >> It is possible that sometimes one might have ANC RTP streams that are >> logically associated via SDP >> with video flows that have a different timestamp rate. We do not >> want to encourage this, but >> felt it was worth leaving an option to allow it. > Are there negative consequences if that happens? Do you end up with incorrectly associated ANC packets? If so, it would be helpful to mention it. > -- intended usage: Is "Common" the right choice? Do you expect this to > be widely used, or > just in some very specific applications? > >> We copied RFC 4175 “Common”. I think it is reasonable to say >> that this would be widely used within >> professional video production, but perhaps rarely outside that area. >> Do you feel that there should be >> different intended usage language? No, that's probably okay. [...] > > - 5: The security considerations do not include the recommended text > from > draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-14, section A.13. Should it? > >> Sure, and recommended text added. I assume the references in the >> recommended text (such as >> RFC 7201) should be informative? 7201 and 7202 can be informative. The rest of them should generally be normative. > > [...] > *** Editorial Comments ***: [...] > >> Added in Section 1 > > - section 1.1, last paragraph: By "data model", does this talk about > the > packet format, or > something else? > >> The data model for the RTP payload It would be helpful to say that. [...] > > It would be helpful to mention that DID_SDIS can occur multiple times > (or be a list of > values, depending on your perspective.) > >> Not sure what you mean, Section 3.2 states “Multiple DID_SDID >> parameters may be specified (separated >> by semicolons) to signal the presence of multiple types of ANC data >> in the stream.” I missed that. No change needed. 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DQpMb3MgQW5nZWxlcywgQ0EgOTAwMzUNCg0KIA0KDQoNCg0KDQo= From nobody Wed Oct 5 20:35:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFD1127058; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 20:35:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147572491812.28135.10556077519554453385.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 20:35:18 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-06.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 03:35:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data Author : Thomas G. Edwards Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-06.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2016-10-05 Abstract: This memo describes an RTP Payload format for SMPTE Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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[109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b8sm6714337wjq.40.2016.10.11.07.13.17 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:13:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:11:48 +0300 Message-ID: <0ac201d223c9$69645f30$3c2d1d90$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0AC3_01D223E2.8EB31DD0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIjyU4fwq4SpojVSqmqsDK9MKuQNA== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] draft-ietf-payload-vp9-02 status X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:13:25 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0AC3_01D223E2.8EB31DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, The draft have recently expired, can you please submit a new revision Thanks Roni Even Payload co-chair ------=_NextPart_000_0AC3_01D223E2.8EB31DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = guys,

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Hi = guys,

The draft have recently = expired, can you please submit a new version

Thanks

Roni = Even

Payload = co-chair

------=_NextPart_000_0AC8_01D223E2.CD795E30-- From nobody Tue Oct 11 07:40:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64B4129593 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147619680180.32075.11129955333938649081.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:40:01 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [payload] Milestones changed for payload WG X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:40:02 -0000 Changed milestone "submit RTP Payload Format for MELPe Codec", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. Changed milestone "submit RTP Payload Format for VC-2 HQ Profile Video", set state to active from review, accepting new milestone. URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/payload/charter/ From nobody Mon Oct 17 01:11:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED8312959F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8-3URFDm8h0 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x233.google.com (mail-lf0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BE43129465 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x233.google.com with SMTP id l131so232139342lfl.2; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index :content-language; bh=o2Rsq1v2QJ3vckIGnQQI5HPSObeHzKFYf4OtANp8yCU=; b=uhsWRotGGn03c8vFDZnOWS8FLwELlZ8l3d17pYG1Z4vb9M55G6mRidgSUkrhDcKHf/ o5XOlPNRd7GV8W59kAgv8GQx+XWnCNZukxiB52oOQM/V2CSdk2pKJRuiBE8f1lcxEhf3 PDng9RuR+K4UZHIBhhlnY5djc5WA4auHh3/U/1w3moSASO+d7YhA8sEDSlcL8eNeFelZ GZY7wg5BHecFSEO05vOSAT0kVwE8XdC6sOmu9vMPKgiZ6W1CDi53rROp6NHckkTx06HD iKy/eicm9ZAVhdiJLmfXiqXq6OXLxox3HtzDk6SiG9GV7IdshJiftuEztlTxGOslHRt+ Pd2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=o2Rsq1v2QJ3vckIGnQQI5HPSObeHzKFYf4OtANp8yCU=; b=laNx96wZ6xDinS+XxYYidg9BYkOt7Egy0sSWCNSvzAX/2Fa/S9y6phUQzK1UxF0ecS 6Qiy1AYijZB+0oWNmvV6TdqIBVq9RYnTWw5050ejnNuHR863k22zdjW/SzcGqSPWBf6o SaqH0xrSxooebE0ENr2RW2Zp3ST2MJudY4dn4DZgwMj3x+gfldGSnlNZlCXfnH0ExBaj PEXULR3INf9IxF/D+q4ZoahFv+Hspyy1oMVhyWf93sWI48EcICGMJR57lxk9s13hG17m /azUB/b+NQ7B7R7ptoR3SOxYCYyFtAj6sF+X3sNLEQI44clp7uLKPhabR7Xup0KZHrFY sYYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlHZ4IuvWDF07mNXqG1jwGK51vQqGHEVsKnAILTIgLoicJdcqinOq3f43iWBjqPbg== X-Received: by 10.25.92.203 with SMTP id u72mr12887071lfi.62.1476691870751; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniPC (bzq-109-65-75-194.red.bezeqint.net. [109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 89sm7298243lja.42.2016.10.17.01.11.08 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:09:38 +0300 Message-ID: <0e1f01d2284d$cf4564b0$6dd02e10$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E20_01D22866.F492EAD0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIoTSQGO3NZWUQZTJ6RKHsrhAr+AQ== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] Status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-g718 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:11:17 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E20_01D22866.F492EAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We have a milestone for RTP payload for EVBR/G.718 as proposed in draft-ietf-avt-rtp-g718. There was no progress on this work lately. The WG chairs are asking if there is still interest in this work and if none we will remove the milestone. Please provide feedback till November 17th . Thanks Roni Even Payload WG co-chair ------=_NextPart_000_0E20_01D22866.F492EAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

We have a = milestone for RTP payload for EVBR/G.718 as proposed in = draft-ietf-avt-rtp-g718.

There was no = progress on this work lately.

The WG = chairs are asking if there is still interest in this work and if none we = will remove the milestone.

Please = provide feedback till November 17th .

Thanks

Roni = Even

Payload WG = co-chair

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Hi,

We have a = milestone for RTP payload for EVBR/G.718 as proposed in = draft-ietf-payload-rtp-g718.

There = was no progress on this work lately.

The WG chairs are asking if there is still interest in = this work and if none we will remove the milestone.

Please provide feedback till November 17th = .

Thanks

Roni Even

Payload = WG co-chair

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Hi,

We have a = milestone for RTP Payload Format for Bluetooth's SBC audio codec as = proposed in draft-ietf-payload-rtp-sbc.

There was no progress on this work = lately.

The WG chairs are asking if = there is still interest in this work and if none we will remove the = milestone.

Please provide feedback = till November 17th .

Thanks

Roni = Even

Payload WG = co-chair

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0E2A_01D22867.BB16ECB0-- From nobody Mon Oct 17 01:30:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BD01295CC for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bFyFWcGCCYlz for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x234.google.com (mail-lf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9260212959F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b75so276228966lfg.3; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index :content-language; bh=cAuBQgOHHbZ+GPd4CCnr4HuweiX2bUXqI2Ma+kP5qDQ=; b=Xkpg0Dc3HZiuvx8mCmJ5N90bU50xmT4U4SnT6gP22wuIedsx+1LV8k4Q3jU/a7rPkH /CBCSTiB2CmJx62quSRsUpHskMngUgK7ox7SARqD59ubqdfHSqAzkfalwojt56DLxXs5 29ib0VkZncID7zQqBpy6Gp8kAp9/fI7iLvUVF8kQmEjEsSON/QGLMFeTw43e2a2jEiC3 MAbr2Qd3F1CyioT83L3HxQXGcCyShOvzXlT/voRfhU81TaiYW9doeCaL4IN28Rcdyisk QM/uLxU3IDJ4nffw+hYJk9yO163/U5OJ1JFS9Jkv7J4ZAWSoA3JybxMTooHftCviHEvW 3+pA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=cAuBQgOHHbZ+GPd4CCnr4HuweiX2bUXqI2Ma+kP5qDQ=; b=BTdzZeDd+sfHA/aNas5zy0IUBEnI8Ph02KltcT1hiDdFEZnUvzULE4cy2eq9NLMBGQ 76+vNFksdglw+Fdu5KUwVHzrR8wKjbax8kwEFD1JRuoAiaDgTLDN86QnRU4AvdwYg2b2 jRJ6F4H95zu3ffQ4roaX5IlAA81cMHTdl/ClD0gFPndYOl8RUR0RHoCTiC6BZVA0k3Ux 9n10VtDuNTT8W56KXLes5JqCOgzSaq0rx8LY9j8YAi1mkxjy1n7zsnclYQNGSNQemDVO lxwhjMU5+yU/vhz/one3nZaxFJGWNtzL9lQdniRk/Uulbn1oRs8sY8rpIUJcX4wxE4ZI +c4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmR227i6aaAfcyUmQZqIr5OEpaj/GKG/3KDD3HM4sdqnF6saGU6j4pVBLoFho1ZPw== X-Received: by 10.28.87.85 with SMTP id l82mr6959790wmb.99.1476692995683; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniPC (bzq-109-65-75-194.red.bezeqint.net. [109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ma5sm51023317wjb.47.2016.10.17.01.29.53 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:29:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:28:23 +0300 Message-ID: <0e3401d22850$6dc18720$49449560$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E35_01D22869.931045C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIoT6n2AvRkVA4xQims2WwtiGH2/w== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:29:59 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E35_01D22869.931045C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi , Looking back I noticed that draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication and there were comments from the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the time. We still have the milestone in the payload WG. So this is a question to the editors if they would like to get back and finish this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a payload and not avt document Thank Roni Even ------=_NextPart_000_0E35_01D22869.931045C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = ,

Looking back I noticed that = draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication and there were comments from = the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the time.

We still have the milestone in the payload = WG.

So this is a question to the = editors if they would like to get back and finish this work, and if yes = it will be good to submit as a payload and not avt = document

Thank

Roni Even

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Hi,

We have a = milestone for RTP payload for EVBR/G.718 as proposed in = draft-ietf-payload-rtp-g718.

There = was no progress on this work lately.

The WG chairs are asking if there is still interest in = this work and if none we will remove the milestone.

Please provide feedback till November 17th = .

Thanks

Roni Even

Payload = WG co-chair

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Hi,

We have a = milestone for RTP Payload Format for Bluetooth's SBC audio codec as = proposed in draft-ietf-payload-rtp-sbc.

There was no progress on this work = lately.

The WG chairs are asking if = there is still interest in this work and if none we will remove the = milestone.

Please provide feedback = till November 17th .

Thanks

Roni = Even

Payload WG = co-chair

 

 

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[109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x23sm7228157lfa.4.2016.10.17.01.34.30 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:34:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:33:00 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E46_01D2286A.37CFB7D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000CCA68B95EA340E48BE6AA0F65106252DE4019100 Expiry-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:32:58 +0300 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] Recall: status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:34:35 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E46_01D2286A.37CFB7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roni Even would like to recall the message, "status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac". ------=_NextPart_000_0E46_01D2286A.37CFB7D0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; 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[109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 89sm7347902lja.42.2016.10.17.01.38.52 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: "'Paul E. Jones'" , "'Harald Alvestrand'" , , Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:37:21 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E49_01D2286A.D43456D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIoT6n2AvRkVA4xQims2WwtiGH2/w== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:39:00 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E49_01D2286A.D43456D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi , Looking back I noticed that draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication and there were comments from the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the time. We still have the milestone in the payload WG. So this is a question to the editors if they would like to get back and finish this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a payload and not avt document Thank Roni Even ------=_NextPart_000_0E49_01D2286A.D43456D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = ,

Looking back I noticed that = draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication and there were comments from = the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the time.

We still have the milestone in the payload = WG.

So this is a question to the = editors if they would like to get back and finish this work, and if yes = it will be good to submit as a payload and not avt = document

Thank

Roni Even

------=_NextPart_000_0E49_01D2286A.D43456D0-- From nobody Mon Oct 17 01:52:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C6C1294AA for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8I260vrBDpnA for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x233.google.com (mail-lf0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC68212944E for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x233.google.com with SMTP id x79so283300793lff.0 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index :content-language; bh=qZL9kl6izjZNhxZF+uXKQQhAqvMM18m4ynz6JhPk7KI=; b=E6EOPiZYJfypeXjh5z57RxtFWoR8Jj27MniEbkAulZ3/uXFJG9EgeFEec51UH/aXq/ pkzU94+MBDR3rgAGGPSfaarpNbCVHp/vduWmADqjMAIZ8dQgiAh1CWSWR6+KDQucvnF1 GhCawZdnOdzfLoxiHsPi2TW3KmkiJbiOtkdEkw1S3MA4KNjdAItftDg6fa8lgO+MjlXH eeVdJ0cEd1BtO3VmkqDttWjqEdSrRl8G6f3glhWKfxydrfLJmjfEyRQ8Od/T2SXgFIMO n4oTw6MHlpIYXHOGTt05hCNwMNuuk/wm0O7+Ff3cMd263B2lb0jmKTlYj3s/tQfDEnD7 i0pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=qZL9kl6izjZNhxZF+uXKQQhAqvMM18m4ynz6JhPk7KI=; b=Rj1nS6pYALdifV6vGnsr/Q2J3UH9NPtO1wDSPRa7q4ApNaaVmrqkbfSiMoQWZmlOUL ktoDCRs3AMWqTC1lGkp+18lp9hpU0uyO66WbFv/bM5KWESgrwKEaaAs6oj6sWBVFRpNr RyxxU3XpXBduUCB7yT95t0cp0G3r+pBAMHGwYpRkPKk3E3ihdF5Pc0q1c6vWt0g3gPlM lahtdJazXYCYidE4FolTOU6Tvi2gEZC6eiMZBDGReP7iuN+/UFNL13HOB8AsSvdkz7xJ Vbxh23csTRlTGN8vqtVmk38s+WNZOQUvbyFF9sZC1W88dNBdZXvtuaJUJQ5kL7A4bsyb 0kWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnSYJejJ19Q7Whx7Rn8F3WKXgqAR72Y8M4oRqlm32oqcPdk0w8/WJKsnCTUxvO7zw== X-Received: by 10.25.38.149 with SMTP id m143mr11602296lfm.107.1476694352839; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniPC (bzq-109-65-75-194.red.bezeqint.net. [109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm7353326ljh.21.2016.10.17.01.52.31 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:51:01 +0300 Message-ID: <0e5201d22853$96df0300$c49d0900$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E53_01D2286C.BC2C3B00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIoU5EHiFsOgHUGQXaRQBgvV+iswA== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Subject: [payload] rqeuest for agenda time for payload at IETF97 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:52:36 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E53_01D2286C.BC2C3B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The preliminary agenda of IETF-97 was published. The PAYLOAD WG meeting is scheduled to follow the AVTcore and AVText session as follows: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:10-12:10 Park Ballroom 2 ART Payload Audio/Video Transport Payloads WG Note that this scheduling is subject to change. Please send the chairs your requests for agenda items. Thanks and Regards, Roni Even PAYLOAD WG co-chair ------=_NextPart_000_0E53_01D2286C.BC2C3B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

The = preliminary agenda of IETF-97 was published. The PAYLOAD WG meeting is = scheduled to follow the AVTcore and AVText session as follows: =

 

Thursday, November 17, 2016

11:10-12:10

Park = Ballroom 2     =             ART =             = Payload     =             &= nbsp;       Audio/Video Transport = Payloads WG

 

 

Note that = this scheduling is subject to change.

 

Please send = the chairs your requests for agenda items.

 

Thanks and = Regards,

 

Roni Even

PAYLOAD = WG co-chair

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0E53_01D2286C.BC2C3B00-- From nobody Mon Oct 17 05:30:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA98B129429 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:30:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mgRfC00OnlG5 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vwp12996.webpack.hosteurope.de (vwp12996.webpack.hosteurope.de [5.35.235.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B12E1293E1 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from app05.ox.hosteurope.de ([92.51.170.12]); authenticated by vwp12996.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) id 1bw73v-0003om-VC; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:30:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:30:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Hoene To: "Bont, Frans de" , Roni Even Message-ID: <1971043934.6153.1476707439934.JavaMail.open-xchange@app05.ox.hosteurope.de> In-Reply-To: <0e3e01d22850$ec361df0$c4a259d0$@gmail.com> References: <0e3e01d22850$ec361df0$c4a259d0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.2-Rev60 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; christian.hoene@symonics.com; 1476707442; cfb77a58; Archived-At: Cc: payload Subject: Re: [payload] status of draft-ietf-payload-rtp-sbc X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Christian Hoene List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:30:44 -0000 Hi Roni, > The WG chairs are asking if there is still interest in this work and if none > we will remove the milestone. We do not use SBC anymore. No interest... Christian From nobody Wed Oct 19 08:41:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE220129554 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.431, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=packetizer.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gIj0ssYlTnpp for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dublin.packetizer.com (dublin.packetizer.com [75.101.130.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 591121294BD for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (cpe-098-122-167-029.nc.res.rr.com [98.122.167.29] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by dublin.packetizer.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u9JFfD4X005807 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:41:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=packetizer.com; s=dublin; t=1476891675; bh=G30RTTpo9XKOSBh4CXQP6cpmareltBobjmdQPYRT9yM=; h=From:To:Subject:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To; b=nFc03e0W/fNmex+0BD4qe8HVO24BI4urlRQT4RzaMaOLrfPCgp55ceQFo+BYMDV5g 6OYbAvDTXLzUpGHTzsSfEozRj5DL3FxtGO3RP0wU4gkieyL6kkUCvE0ErEzaXdYKM1 ii0oD/8rbccTJRIIthlP6i1ClcElwVHUMKP/z9qw= From: "Paul E. Jones" To: "Roni Even" , "'Harald Alvestrand'" , phuart@cisco.com, turajs@google.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:41:15 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: eM_Client/7.0.26482.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBF6A0B1CD-9CFE-47E0-BA60-FCEA0589D9A4" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6 (dublin.packetizer.com [10.137.60.122]); Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: Re: [payload] status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Paul E. Jones" List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:41:28 -0000 --------=_MBF6A0B1CD-9CFE-47E0-BA60-FCEA0589D9A4 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Harald, Want to weigh in here? It's been a very long time since we talked about= =20 this, and I think the importance (given Opus) has been increasingly=20 declining. Still, it might be nice to publish for completeness. Paul ------ Original Message ------ From: "Roni Even" To: "'Paul E. Jones'" ; "'Harald Alvestrand'"=20 ; phuart@cisco.com; turajs@google.com Cc: "Ali C. Begen" ; payload@ietf.org; "Ben=20 Campbell" Sent: 10/17/2016 4:37:21 AM Subject: status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac >Hi , > >Looking back I noticed that draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication= =20 >and there were comments from the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the=20 >time. > >We still have the milestone in the payload WG. > >So this is a question to the editors if they would like to get back and= =20 >finish this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a payload and= =20 >not avt document > >Thank > >Roni Even > --------=_MBF6A0B1CD-9CFE-47E0-BA60-FCEA0589D9A4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Harald,

= Want to weigh in here?  It's been a very long time since we talked = about this, and I think the importance (given Opus) has been increasingly= declining.

Still, it might be nice to publish = for completeness.

Paul

------ Original Message ------
From: "Roni Even" <ron.ev= en.tlv@gmail.com>
To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <pau= lej@packetizer.com>; "'Harald Alvestrand'" <hta@google.com>; ph= uart@cisco.com; turajs@google.com<= /a>
Sent: 10/17/2016 4:37:21 AM
Subject: status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac

Hi ,

Looking back I noticed that draft-ietf-avt-isac was= sent to publication and there were comments from the previous AD, Richard= Barnes, at the time.

We still have= the milestone in the payload WG.

So= this is a question to the editors if they would like to get back and finis= h this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a payload and not avt= document

Thank

Roni Even

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Jones" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11419cf6be5eaa053f3b3163 Archived-At: Cc: "phuart@cisco.com" , payload@ietf.org, Turaj Zakizadeh Shabestary Subject: Re: [payload] status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:32:37 -0000 --001a11419cf6be5eaa053f3b3163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yeah, I found it hard to address the comments, because they either required me to dig into the mechanics of the compression mechanism or to remove information so that the document became less informative - the most tortuous question was "how may bits does the value have for an integer that can have only the values 48 and 96", if I remember rightly - with arithmetic coding, I don't think the question even makes sense (it's likely to be 1 bit + some state that influences how you encode the next bit, so it's not even an integer number of bits - but verifying that this is actually a true statement would require me to dive into the C++ implementation, since no independent documentation exists). With the declining importance of iSAC, I kind of forgot about it. But it would be nice to complete. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Paul E. Jones wrote: > Harald, > > Want to weigh in here? It's been a very long time since we talked about > this, and I think the importance (given Opus) has been increasingly > declining. > > Still, it might be nice to publish for completeness. > > Paul > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Roni Even" > To: "'Paul E. Jones'" ; "'Harald Alvestrand'" < > hta@google.com>; phuart@cisco.com; turajs@google.com > Cc: "Ali C. Begen" ; payload@ietf.org; "Ben > Campbell" > Sent: 10/17/2016 4:37:21 AM > Subject: status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac > > Hi , > > Looking back I noticed that draft-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication > and there were comments from the previous AD, Richard Barnes, at the time. > > We still have the milestone in the payload WG. > > So this is a question to the editors if they would like to get back and > finish this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a payload and not > avt document > > Thank > > Roni Even > > --001a11419cf6be5eaa053f3b3163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, I found it hard to address the comments, because the= y either required me to dig into the mechanics of the compression mechanism= or to remove information so that the document became less informative - th= e most tortuous question was "how may bits does the value have for an = integer that can have only the values 48 and 96", if I remember rightl= y - with arithmetic coding, I don't think the question even makes sense= (it's likely to be 1 bit + some state that influences how you encode t= he next bit, so it's not even an integer number of bits - but verifying= that this is actually a true statement would require me to dive into the C= ++ implementation, since no independent documentation exists).

With the declining importance of iSAC, I kind of forgot about it. Bu= t it would be nice to complete.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:
Harald,

Want to weigh in here?=C2= =A0 It's been a very long time since we talked about this, and I think = the importance (given Opus) has been increasingly declining.

=
Still, it might be nice to publish for completeness.

Paul

------ Original Message ------
From: "Roni Even" <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com>
To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <paulej@packetizer.com>; "'= Harald Alvestrand'" <hta@google.com>; phuart@cisco.com; turajs@google.com
Cc: "Ali C. Begen" <ali.begen@networked.media>; payload@ietf.org; "Ben Cam= pbell" <ben@no= strum.com>
Sent: 10/17/2016 4:37:21 AM
Subject: status of draft-ietf-avt-rtp-isac

Hi= ,

Looking back I noticed that draf= t-ietf-avt-isac was sent to publication and there were comments from the pr= evious AD, Richard Barnes, at the time.

We still have the milestone in the payload WG.

So this is a question to the editors if they would like to= get back and finish this work, and if yes it will be good to submit as a p= ayload and not avt document

Thank

Roni Even


--001a11419cf6be5eaa053f3b3163-- From nobody Thu Oct 20 14:48:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3A0126D73; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.35.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <147700011225.20441.4712277694247365309.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:48:32 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload-chairs@ietf.org, acbegen@gmail.com, payload@ietf.org, draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary@ietf.org Subject: [payload] Last Call: (RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:48:32 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Audio/Video Transport Payloads WG (payload) to consider the following document: - 'RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-11-03. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This memo describes an RTP Payload format for SMPTE Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Fri Oct 21 16:26:04 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF1912983F; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:21:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.36.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147709207691.28214.988608602045849105.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:21:16 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] payload - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 97 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 23:21:18 -0000 Dear Roni Even, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. payload Session 1 (1:00:00) Thursday, Morning Session II 1110-1210 Room Name: Park Ballroom 2 size: 125 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Audio/Video Transport Payloads Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Roni Even Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 70 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: tsvwg rmcat xrblock rtcweb avtcore mmusic dispatch avtext netvc perc Second Priority: tram sipcore lmap stir Third Priority: tls Special Requests: will be good directly after avtcore --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sat Oct 22 13:55:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B268129441 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AG6bZBG4WjXR for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56108129666 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id c78so46273388wme.1 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index :content-language; bh=Im0GNlOhLUIkYwuOKq2DqX2l2xDCL7rYDDtXMpt0aOc=; b=KAt7Dkw+gemAKuQWSUcfaiD4/4sH7HlleBuczQVEKE6IQe6yClua8rugZa9TkPBZ8X D49O7MBUQkKe70MY06xNOSmmXppIoITCVkwu0O435Pni456MAJSd56djLkHxF/iaXHyT eaqpBNtvNvbspBM1O3lwpoNTOtgL7wI1RIiKcHzm7qYaowW8sdINKnlQyxqUeFUvGLUM X70oxIrGprhGXvyWccHXT1JH3kdVZLo78eYnA3quDuMiOuSsxGQMATu8m6AvURAHzSL9 ruQeRVbnHlMaWPxxltWBzKQZ6utNAg+zn6S+jogrpU4Mn+VemIJmpTz7mu5bKbq9++5/ HolQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=Im0GNlOhLUIkYwuOKq2DqX2l2xDCL7rYDDtXMpt0aOc=; b=fQfPbl7gmHImJDjRUpOYFub1Er5RyGyVqspDvJZ1ZHb26WcsaLJOizQbzqSznXgGUt qXjm+yORMH0HPX9KNKIsc3ybNVfC6HQentai8VPqNxKnc//zLS22qo0KKG75DeBCElM1 eT4ZpcKPbVPCj/2ctzXpCkpFg1pM9GfdWP9Ga60KC3RZTw+XoheoVnIOO3bIbybwWryy bI6WhewtxhVri2ezJ1dM0fDf6s+VCGtMuYUNuH47jsCGR5R+ec/40ZpSaLvd1N9slI4j Ijr1anuAx3x1JBXrzIfjJ5UDqsQqJ0mqUrMYEpmmMAk5f3GzgLjCywujQIiSr0h40OmW YOqA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvddKPhMzLngPr2HgMx5VaN70G5hBs4gIc3lrKg/b0uDBoycYbpY1X0YBs6dnwQ6ig== X-Received: by 10.194.44.226 with SMTP id h2mr5698040wjm.113.1477169720897; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniPC (bzq-109-65-75-194.red.bezeqint.net. [109.65.75.194]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y2sm10115009wjx.20.2016.10.22.13.55.19 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:53:29 +0300 Message-ID: <122001d22ca6$586eb7d0$094c2770$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1221_01D22CBF.7DBC6500" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIoU5EHiFsOgHUGQXaRQBgvV+iswA== Content-Language: he Archived-At: Subject: [payload] rqeuest for agenda time for payload at IETF97 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:55:25 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1221_01D22CBF.7DBC6500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The preliminary agenda of IETF-97 was published. The PAYLOAD WG meeting is scheduled to follow the AVTcore and AVText session as follows: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:10-12:10 Park Ballroom 2 ART Payload Audio/Video Transport Payloads WG Note that this scheduling is subject to change. Please send the chairs your requests for agenda items. Thanks and Regards, Roni Even PAYLOAD WG co-chair ------=_NextPart_000_1221_01D22CBF.7DBC6500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

The = preliminary agenda of IETF-97 was published. The PAYLOAD WG meeting is = scheduled to follow the AVTcore and AVText session as follows: =

 

Thursday, November 17, 2016

11:10-12:10

Park = Ballroom 2     =             ART =             = Payload     =             &= nbsp;       Audio/Video Transport = Payloads WG

 

 

Note that = this scheduling is subject to change.

 

Please send = the chairs your requests for agenda items.

 

Thanks and = Regards,

 

Roni Even

PAYLOAD = WG co-chair

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_1221_01D22CBF.7DBC6500-- From nobody Mon Oct 31 10:12:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0393129951; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.36.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147793396865.32450.4602222564993816981.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 10:12:48 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-03.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:12:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for Flexible Forward Error Correction (FEC) Authors : Varun Singh Ali Begen Mo Zanaty Giridhar Mandyam Filename : draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-03.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2016-10-31 Abstract: This document defines new RTP payload formats for the Forward Error Correction (FEC) packets that are generated by the non-interleaved and interleaved parity codes from a source media encapsulated in RTP. These parity codes are systematic codes, where a number of repair symbols are generated from a set of source symbols. These repair symbols are sent in a repair flow separate from the source flow that carries the source symbols. The non-interleaved and interleaved parity codes which are defined in this specification offer a good protection against random and bursty packet losses, respectively, at a cost of decent complexity. Moreover, alternate FEC codes may be used with the payload formats presented. The RTP payload formats that are defined in this document address the scalability issues experienced with the earlier specifications including RFC 2733, RFC 5109 and SMPTE 2022-1, and offer several improvements. Due to these changes, the new payload formats are not backward compatible with the earlier specifications, but endpoints that do not implement the scheme can still work by simply ignoring the FEC packets. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 31 19:22:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15FA129B16 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:22:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.718 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.718 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06qAUyQgajgs for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FAC8129417 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CZL27241; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 02:22:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML428-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.183) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.130) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 02:22:40 +0000 Received: from SZXEML512-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.114]) by szxeml428-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.183]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 10:22:37 +0800 From: "Zhenghui (Marvin)" To: "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-wei-payload-has-over-rtp-01.txt Thread-Index: AQHSMxQF94QirSAYJkqKNRXOtDM8jaDDZwIw Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 02:22:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <147787641693.20744.10990319054386363723.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <147787641693.20744.10990319054386363723.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.135.87.2] Content-Type: text/plain; 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