Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646263A6A1D for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.745 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.745 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v-RskVBYRr7l for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail129.messagelabs.com (mail129.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862D63A6D8F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-129.messagelabs.com!1248855274!25185894!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 30396 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 08:14:35 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-3.tower-129.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Jul 2009 08:14:35 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6T8EYcR010285 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:34 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6T8ESxJ010273 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:29 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6T8ESQw027162 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:28 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6T8ESvU027149 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200907290814.n6T8ESvU027149@alph001.aldc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (vpn-135-70-208-23.vpn.east.att.com[135.70.208.23](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20090729081426gw1003ibo2e>; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:14:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.208.23] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:26 -0400 To: pmol@ietf.org From: Al Morton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Lou Berger , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" Subject: [PMOL] Generalized MPLS LSP Dynamic Provisioning Metrics X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:14:35 -0000 PMOL Working Group, When we were forming-up (as the APM BoF), this draft on GMPLS LSP metrics was just getting started and it was reviewed by several of us: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-06 It's now nearing completion in the CCAMP working group, and a final review was requested in IPPM (Henk has found a volunteer). If any PMOL WG members are willing to give this draft a look, to see how it lines-up with our framework and guidelines draft or other aspects, it may be useful to both PMOL and CCAMP. Please let me know if you plan to do this. thanks and regards, Al pmol co-chair PS - we plan to snack-BoF in room 202 today at 1510 today. >Subject: IPPM expert review request >Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:57:41 -0400 >From: Lou Berger >To: ippm-chairs@tools.ietf.org >CC: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS , >sunwq@mit.edu, zhangguoying > >Hi, > We, the CCAMP WG chairs, would like to request that the > IPPM WG review >a draft that is progressing through the CCAMP WG. This work applies >IPPM approaches to GMPLS. The document we'd like reviewed is available at: > >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-06 > >Is this acceptable? Can you undertake this review? Alternatively, we >can just last call the document in your WG (it has already passed CCAMP >WG LC). > >Thank you, >Lou (and Deborah) Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6853A69CE for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:41:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.725 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.725 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yS8uJrC636PF for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail167.messagelabs.com (mail167.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC843A6D1E for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-167.messagelabs.com!1248723659!15909732!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 5999 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2009 19:40:59 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-13.tower-167.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Jul 2009 19:40:59 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RJewXj009680 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:58 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RJerRa009637 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:53 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6RJerXi001353 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:53 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (mailgw1.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6RJejXR000651 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200907271940.n6RJejXR000651@alph001.aldc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (vpn-135-70-5-60.vpn.west.att.com[135.70.5.60](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20090727194043gw1003ic3ce>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:40:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.5.60] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:41 -0400 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "Vinayak Hegde" From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: References: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> <200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com> <38940f3c0907260658h586896f6g7b4e76eaee1b2a11@mail.gmail.com> <200907262104.n6QL4kFI014989@alph001.aldc.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:41:01 -0000 OK Dan (I was wondering how this time would work-out after the OPS office hours were rescheduled to the same slot!) So far, five people have indicated interest: Henk, Benoit, Vinayak, Dan, and Al At 01:19 PM 7/27/2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >I suggest that you all come to room 202 - we have the OPS-Area open >hours scheduled at this time. If there are no other visitors we can just >hold our discussion. Otherwise we can look for other space. > >Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pmol-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pmol-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Al Morton > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:05 AM > > To: Vinayak Hegde > > Cc: pmol@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... > > > > Hi Vinayak, > > > > We'll plan to meet at the Congresshall Foyer, where the > > afternoon refreshments are scheduled to appear after our > > snack-BoF. I don't know if there will be tables and chairs > > at the foyer, but once everyone who has indicated that they > > will attend arrives, then we can find a suitable place... > > > > see you then, > > Al > > > > At 09:58 AM 7/26/2009, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > > >Where is this happening ? I just went through the archives > > and the IETF > > >agenda but couldn't find the location. Apologies if this has already > > >been notified. > > > > > >-- Vinayak > > > > > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Al Morton wrote: > > > > Since I've already learned of a key conflict with with lunch on > > > > Thursday, I'm now suggesting: > > > > > > > > a Snack-Bof, Wednesday in the Afternoon II slot 15:10 to 16:10. > > > > > > > > that's how the scheduling goes, > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:51 AM 7/14/2009, Al Morton wrote: > > > >> > > > >> PMOL, > > > >> > > > >> As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting > > minutes, PMOL > > > >> will not have a formal session at IETF-75. > > > >> We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). > > > >> We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. > > > >> > > > >> It may be useful to have some informal discussions during > > > >> IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of > > PMOL, so... > > > >> > > > >> I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and > > right now > > > >> the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. > > > >> This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we > > still need to > > > >> pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will > > be present > > > >> and interested. > > > >> > > > >> Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, or > > > >> would like to attend but prefer some other time... > > > >> > > > >> thanks and regards, > > > >> Al > > > >> pmol co-chair > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> PMOL mailing list > > > >> PMOL@ietf.org > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PMOL mailing list > > > > PMOL@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >-- > > >Twitter @ http://twitter.com/vinayakh > > >Blog @ http://thoughts.vinayakhegde.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PMOL mailing list > > PMOL@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F393A68AB for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.329 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.329 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pZjDl170WU-v for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D0D3A6C12 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,277,1246852800"; d="scan'208";a="152318732" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 13:19:24 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 13:19:23 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:19:01 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200907262104.n6QL4kFI014989@alph001.aldc.att.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... thread-index: AcoONL2ZLzaI9FSzToOu0YinBc4Z7AAqWvow References: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com><200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com><38940f3c0907260658h586896f6g7b4e76eaee1b2a11@mail.gmail.com> <200907262104.n6QL4kFI014989@alph001.aldc.att.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Al Morton" , "Vinayak Hegde" Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:19:41 -0000 I suggest that you all come to room 202 - we have the OPS-Area open hours scheduled at this time. If there are no other visitors we can just hold our discussion. Otherwise we can look for other space.=20 Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pmol-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pmol-bounces@ietf.org] On=20 > Behalf Of Al Morton > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:05 AM > To: Vinayak Hegde > Cc: pmol@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... >=20 > Hi Vinayak, >=20 > We'll plan to meet at the Congresshall Foyer, where the=20 > afternoon refreshments are scheduled to appear after our=20 > snack-BoF. I don't know if there will be tables and chairs=20 > at the foyer, but once everyone who has indicated that they=20 > will attend arrives, then we can find a suitable place... >=20 > see you then, > Al >=20 > At 09:58 AM 7/26/2009, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > >Where is this happening ? I just went through the archives=20 > and the IETF=20 > >agenda but couldn't find the location. Apologies if this has already=20 > >been notified. > > > >-- Vinayak > > > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Al Morton wrote: > > > Since I've already learned of a key conflict with with lunch on=20 > > > Thursday, I'm now suggesting: > > > > > > a Snack-Bof, Wednesday in the Afternoon II slot 15:10 to 16:10. > > > > > > that's how the scheduling goes, > > > Al > > > > > > > > > At 11:51 AM 7/14/2009, Al Morton wrote: > > >> > > >> PMOL, > > >> > > >> As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting=20 > minutes, PMOL=20 > > >> will not have a formal session at IETF-75. > > >> We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). > > >> We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. > > >> > > >> It may be useful to have some informal discussions during > > >> IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of=20 > PMOL, so... > > >> > > >> I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and=20 > right now=20 > > >> the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. > > >> This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we=20 > still need to=20 > > >> pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will=20 > be present=20 > > >> and interested. > > >> > > >> Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, or=20 > > >> would like to attend but prefer some other time... > > >> > > >> thanks and regards, > > >> Al > > >> pmol co-chair > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> PMOL mailing list > > >> PMOL@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PMOL mailing list > > > PMOL@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >-- > >Twitter @ http://twitter.com/vinayakh > >Blog @ http://thoughts.vinayakhegde.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > PMOL mailing list > PMOL@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol >=20 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73B3A6838 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:04:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.655 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.655 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.141, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hmxtt+hR8Y7V for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail121.messagelabs.com (mail121.messagelabs.com [216.82.242.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869243A676A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:04:55 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-121.messagelabs.com!1248642295!24035975!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 29418 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2009 21:04:55 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-8.tower-121.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Jul 2009 21:04:55 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6QL4sCu012832 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:55 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6QL4nuH012806 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:50 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6QL4nJt014997 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:49 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (mailgw1.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6QL4kFI014989 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200907262104.n6QL4kFI014989@alph001.aldc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (vpn-135-70-106-184.vpn.swst.att.com[135.70.106.184](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20090726210445gw1003iba4e>; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:04:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.106.184] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:43 -0400 To: Vinayak Hegde From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: <38940f3c0907260658h586896f6g7b4e76eaee1b2a11@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> <200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com> <38940f3c0907260658h586896f6g7b4e76eaee1b2a11@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:04:57 -0000 Hi Vinayak, We'll plan to meet at the Congresshall Foyer, where the afternoon refreshments are scheduled to appear after our snack-BoF. I don't know if there will be tables and chairs at the foyer, but once everyone who has indicated that they will attend arrives, then we can find a suitable place... see you then, Al At 09:58 AM 7/26/2009, Vinayak Hegde wrote: >Where is this happening ? I just went through the archives and the >IETF agenda but couldn't find the location. Apologies if this has >already been notified. > >-- Vinayak > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Al Morton wrote: > > Since I've already learned of a key conflict with > > with lunch on Thursday, I'm now suggesting: > > > > a Snack-Bof, Wednesday in the Afternoon II slot 15:10 to 16:10. > > > > that's how the scheduling goes, > > Al > > > > > > At 11:51 AM 7/14/2009, Al Morton wrote: > >> > >> PMOL, > >> > >> As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting minutes, > >> PMOL will not have a formal session at IETF-75. > >> We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). > >> We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. > >> > >> It may be useful to have some informal discussions during > >> IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of PMOL, > >> so... > >> > >> I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and right > >> now the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. > >> This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we still need > >> to pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will be > >> present and interested. > >> > >> Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, > >> or would like to attend but prefer some other time... > >> > >> thanks and regards, > >> Al > >> pmol co-chair > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PMOL mailing list > >> PMOL@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PMOL mailing list > > PMOL@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > > > > >-- >-- >Twitter @ http://twitter.com/vinayakh >Blog @ http://thoughts.vinayakhegde.com Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC683A6A97 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rOEgg5FR5Gpw for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3973A6A2C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1410837qwd.31 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OzlgD7VA0oYaqiTNx5/TRK8X8Io4GWn0n6XVsWOzfLE=; b=IZ+dKZ9XLbTwMGK0JwrYxIGG4oAK282WwiLE+mV9fPNA8LdBwOPU7VgYEJBtxVBtEh ZJGW8F2E+EmeATrPl/s9px5ZoHsZFcSfaHKlsklEibpzTvT+cHypZwMfYswkEJ9ckhFM ywK+QU/3uxcaAKB1HsVrcM5I9MvOquwLlI5HQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j3WvKFllkSq+9uLptJXpU3j2RR7ZlyefUtNSX1xyRvKX/UAZ7RbmNaxR6lq9yyaZOM YwFwF60KNsAEw7TViRQe2tSgcvt3z92dymMw1usRSXfNP7E8EPG/ATt8+bAivg/rKlLj ClhDXN5TnauE+lGP0o+uf+j70iEf21M93G9VQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.208 with SMTP id v16mr1191194qcn.75.1248616688816; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:58:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com> References: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> <200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:58:08 +0200 Message-ID: <38940f3c0907260658h586896f6g7b4e76eaee1b2a11@mail.gmail.com> From: Vinayak Hegde To: Al Morton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:58:11 -0000 Where is this happening ? I just went through the archives and the IETF agenda but couldn't find the location. Apologies if this has already been notified. -- Vinayak On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Al Morton wrote: > Since I've already learned of a key conflict with > with lunch on Thursday, I'm now suggesting: > > a Snack-Bof, Wednesday in the Afternoon II slot 15:10 to 16:10. > > that's how the scheduling goes, > Al > > > At 11:51 AM 7/14/2009, Al Morton wrote: >> >> PMOL, >> >> As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting minutes, >> PMOL will not have a formal session at IETF-75. >> We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). >> We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. >> >> It may be useful to have some informal discussions during >> IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of PMOL, >> so... >> >> I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and right >> now the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. >> This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we still need >> to pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will be >> present and interested. >> >> Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, >> or would like to attend but prefer some other time... >> >> thanks and regards, >> Al >> pmol co-chair >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PMOL mailing list >> PMOL@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > > _______________________________________________ > PMOL mailing list > PMOL@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol > -- -- Twitter @ http://twitter.com/vinayakh Blog @ http://thoughts.vinayakhegde.com Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EB83A68E2 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:44:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.260, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iMgCGngNrvZW for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail129.messagelabs.com (mail129.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFB33A6816 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-129.messagelabs.com!1247588248!9421668!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 2782 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2009 16:17:28 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-13.tower-129.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jul 2009 16:17:28 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EGHRDk013639 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:27 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EGHLXO013539 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:21 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6EGHLWa025947 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:21 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6EGHFjK025813 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200907141617.n6EGHFjK025813@alph001.aldc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (dyp004276dys.mt.att.com[135.16.251.251](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20090714161714gw1003ibc3e>; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:17:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.16.251.251] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:17:14 -0400 To: pmol@ietf.org From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> References: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:44:35 -0000 Since I've already learned of a key conflict with with lunch on Thursday, I'm now suggesting: a Snack-Bof, Wednesday in the Afternoon II slot 15:10 to 16:10. that's how the scheduling goes, Al At 11:51 AM 7/14/2009, Al Morton wrote: >PMOL, > >As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting minutes, >PMOL will not have a formal session at IETF-75. >We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). >We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. > >It may be useful to have some informal discussions during >IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of PMOL, >so... > >I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and right >now the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. >This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we still need >to pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will be >present and interested. > >Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, >or would like to attend but prefer some other time... > >thanks and regards, >Al >pmol co-chair > >_______________________________________________ >PMOL mailing list >PMOL@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA19B28C330 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7tuNhKjnaQuf for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail129.messagelabs.com (mail129.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9033A6907 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:51:41 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-129.messagelabs.com!1247586671!30622535!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 25159 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2009 15:51:12 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-8.tower-129.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jul 2009 15:51:12 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EFpAwF023065 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:11 -0400 Received: from alph001.aldc.att.com (alph001.aldc.att.com [135.53.7.26]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EFp6dO023020 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6EFp6NI016638 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alph001.aldc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6EFp1lt016046 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200907141551.n6EFp1lt016046@alph001.aldc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (dyp004276dys.mt.att.com[135.16.251.251](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20090714155101gw1003ibbke>; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:51:01 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.16.251.251] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:51:00 -0400 To: pmol@ietf.org From: Al Morton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [PMOL] Bar-BoF at IETF-75, future of PMOL... X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:51:42 -0000 PMOL, As announced at our last meeting and in the meeting minutes, PMOL will not have a formal session at IETF-75. We have concluded a 2nd WGLC on the SIP metrics draft (quietly). We still have the framework and guidelines draft to finish. It may be useful to have some informal discussions during IETF-75 on our remaining topics and the future form of PMOL, so... I propose that interested parties meet during Lunch, and right now the only lunch time I have available is Thursday. This would be a Lunch-BoF more than a Bar-BoF, and we still need to pick a place, etc. if enough people indicate they will be present and interested. Let me know if you will be available to attend on Thursday, or would like to attend but prefer some other time... thanks and regards, Al pmol co-chair