From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 1 07:33:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A6821E8051 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:33:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kb-hqlZvBPYb for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6910621E809E for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:32:57 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r21FWu9P003213 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:32:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r21FWe48002143 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:32:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5130CA18.8060104@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:32:40 -0500 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pm-dir@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:33:08 -0000 Dear all, What do you think about an informal meeting during the next IETF? Topics for discussion: - the cron job - google document - Synch up on our reviews: we have a bunch of XRBLOCK coming our way, What do you think? May I propose Monday 9AM? I can book a room Note: calendar is pretty full already... Regards, Benoit From dromasca@avaya.com Fri Mar 1 08:10:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585D821E80C6 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:10:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.356 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.356 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.243, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8gUHHHpZlJ2 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DC421E809F for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:10:45 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAP0QA1GHCzI1/2dsb2JhbABFgmu7ZxZzgh4BAQEBAwEBAQ8oNBcEAgEIDQEDBAEBCxQJBycLFAkIAgQBEggah20BC6FYnHAEkF5hA5waijuCd4Ik X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,541,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="345622957" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2013 11:14:15 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.14]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2013 11:09:27 -0500 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.14]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:10:41 -0500 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Benoit Claise , "pm-dir@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF Thread-Index: AQHOFpIgeLNulI0FtEuFG60bE7gNIpiRALHQ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:10:41 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09AFFF@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <5130CA18.8060104@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5130CA18.8060104@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:10:46 -0000 Monday 9AM is not optimal for me but I can arrange to attend.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Benoit Claise > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:33 PM > To: pm-dir@ietf.org > Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > What do you think about an informal meeting during the next IETF? >=20 > Topics for discussion: > - the cron job > - google document > - Synch up on our reviews: we have a bunch of XRBLOCK coming our way, >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > May I propose Monday 9AM? I can book a room > Note: calendar is pretty full already... >=20 > Regards, Benoit > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 1 08:39:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B1921E808A for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:39:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iH5mgF2rRL0B for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5A21F9114 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:39:20 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r21GT3aV008696; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:29:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r21GSb8X002024; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:28:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5130D735.50705@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:28:37 -0500 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" References: <5130CA18.8060104@cisco.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09AFFF@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09AFFF@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "pm-dir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:39:31 -0000 On 1/03/2013 11:10, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Monday 9AM is not optimal for me but I can arrange to attend. The only other slot available is Friday morning. It might be a little bit too late in the week though... Regards, Benoit > > Dan > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Benoit Claise >> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:33 PM >> To: pm-dir@ietf.org >> Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics get-together at the IETF >> >> Dear all, >> >> What do you think about an informal meeting during the next IETF? >> >> Topics for discussion: >> - the cron job >> - google document >> - Synch up on our reviews: we have a bunch of XRBLOCK coming our way, >> >> What do you think? >> >> May I propose Monday 9AM? I can book a room >> Note: calendar is pretty full already... >> >> Regards, Benoit >> _______________________________________________ >> pm-dir mailing list >> pm-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > From bclaise@cisco.com Sun Mar 3 14:06:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE49521F8846 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:06:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GNhzHNCAaSFw for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC7621F88BF for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:06:38 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r23M6bim012711 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:06:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (sweet-brew-5.cisco.com [144.254.10.206]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r23M683h005336 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:06:18 +0100 (CET) Received: (from bclaise@localhost) by sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id r23M65EO025888 for pm-dir@ietf.org; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:06:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:06:05 +0100 From: Benoit Claise To: pm-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130303220605.GA25886@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:06:40 -0000 Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference. It also lists all the IETF internet-drafts that contain "performance metric". Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-08 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active drafts containing performance metric ------------------------------------ draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06 Active draft-ietf-alto-protocol-14 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-bmwg-ca-bench-meth-04 Active draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-02 Active draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-02 Active draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-05 Active draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-06 Active draft-ietf-nvo3-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-06 Active draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-08 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02 Active From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Mar 4 07:26:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9C21F8A6E for ; 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Thread-Index: AQHOD3rskk7cOBCP20yAGfWoyAqM85iD4t1QgABdGmCAEYDVEA== Message-ID: References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:59:28 -0000 pm-dir, This weekend, I experimented with preparing a google doc=20 to track drafts and reviews. I ended-up using a Google Spreadsheet, which seems to be nicely suited to the task and adds features that not possible a static document table. I have just updated the table with the yesterday's script results, adding two new drafts. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bFJv= VUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=3Dsharing "everyone" with the link above should be able to view the sheet. "anyone" in pm-dir who sends me their gmail address (or new address prepared for this purpose) will have the editing rights shared with=20 them, and can volunteer to review drafts, enter status, etc. Hopefully, the words in "quotes" above will be true, subject to testing which begins now. Al your faithful PMDir Admin > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:36 AM > To: Yaakov Stein > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. >=20 >=20 > Not Google Tasks (which I haven't investigated), > just a Google doc with the table: > draft-name + reviewer + status + date >=20 > Which all reviewers can edit WYSIWYG > I'll own the doc and share it with the everyone in the > directorate (who actually does reviews :-) ). >=20 > And, that doc won't be ready till after the draft deadline! >=20 > Al >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > > version. > > > > Sorry for perhaps not catching on, > > but are you suggesting setting up a single account for all of the > > directorate > > and using "Google Tasks" to aggregate the review statuses ? > > > > While this could work, I think there are perhaps better options. > > > > The simplest would be just maintaining a table with draft-name + > reviewer > > + status + date > > on a wiki. > > > > As a reviewer for several academic journals I know they have tools > > (much too advanced for our present needs) > > that select the most appropriate reviewer(s), send them emails, > > receive their acceptance/rejection of the task, > > send email reminders when the due date approaches, > > input the review, etc. > > > > Y(J)S > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behal= f > > Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 17:00 > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise); pm-dir@ietf.org; Paul Aitken (paitken); > Alan > > DeKok > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > > version. > > > > > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" > > > wrote: > > > > > Ok Benoit, > > > I have a version of the doc going, but probably won't finish > > > till after the revised deadline expires... > > > > > > Before going further, it would be useful to know if anyone > > > in the directorate objects to using or establishing a gmail > > > account in order to register their review assignments and status. > > > > > > > No objection. I think it's a great solution. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- Carlos. > > > > > regards, > > > Al > > > > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Mar 4 09:28:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB37721F8D19 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yY3Zl67zzCoN for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE39021F85AC for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=4051; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1362418122; x=1363627722; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=/w8+zXKbvIOg+tY/yKNtTV/KJKcgUpuMYSroi0YKrPA=; b=ODSHQVwKYcQnAsfS6N4sPTsJO+caABKm/KzLpnLcAk/lmxKbnXMROjlf fiNBLcRxHPHXNS4ogPg1YhY+DFqTdPERCM69NAoL/p/UEzq+ZGjrb7glp o6EP10ROS6c+vbjgFp5agHmX9gMU35DbTeuIsFXCGcfKRf0wK0SjTZoC8 I=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,781,1355097600"; d="scan'208,217";a="183570071" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2013 17:28:41 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r24HSfOV017595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:28:41 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com ([169.254.7.138]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:28:41 -0600 From: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" To: "'pm-dir@ietf.org'" , "'Alan DeKok'" Thread-Topic: Performance Metris Directorate (change to Friday) Thread-Index: Ac4Y/bNf/Yuhc08vQ4CSgywwMnCmngAAALAw Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:28:41 +0000 Message-ID: <948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C90EABE@xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.60.67.84] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C90EABExmbalnx12ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" , "Paul Aitken \(paitken\)" , "'MORTON JR., ALFRED \(AL\)'" Subject: [pm-dir] Performance Metris Directorate (change to Friday) X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:28:47 -0000 --_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C90EABExmbalnx12ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Changing to the Friday due to some conflicts with rmcat Regards, Benoit --_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C90EABExmbalnx12ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
 
Changing to the Friday due to some conflicts with rmcat
 
Regards, Benoit
 
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Thread-Index: AQHOD3rskk7cOBCP20yAGfWoyAqM85iD4t1QgABdGmCAEYDVEIABOIUg Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:31:57 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:32:02 -0000 Hi Al, I am dromasca@gmail.com on Google.=20 However, this is an address which I usually use for personal communication,= and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal and profession= al communications, or about creating another gmail instance of myself. So I= need to ask - what are the advantages / extra capabilities offered by Goog= le Spreadsheet relative to using a wiki page?=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:59 PM > To: Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org > Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. >=20 > pm-dir, >=20 > This weekend, I experimented with preparing a google doc to track drafts > and reviews. I ended-up using a Google Spreadsheet, which seems to be > nicely suited to the task and adds features that not possible a static > document table. I have just updated the table with the yesterday's > script results, adding two new drafts. >=20 > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bF= J > vVUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=3Dsharing >=20 >=20 > "everyone" with the link above should be able to view the sheet. >=20 > "anyone" in pm-dir who sends me their gmail address (or new address > prepared for this purpose) will have the editing rights shared with > them, and can volunteer to review drafts, enter status, etc. >=20 > Hopefully, the words in "quotes" above will be true, subject to testing > which begins now. >=20 > Al > your faithful PMDir Admin >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:36 AM > > To: Yaakov Stein > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > new version. > > > > > > Not Google Tasks (which I haven't investigated), just a Google doc > > with the table: > > draft-name + reviewer + status + date > > > > Which all reviewers can edit WYSIWYG > > I'll own the doc and share it with the everyone in the directorate > > (who actually does reviews :-) ). > > > > And, that doc won't be ready till after the draft deadline! > > > > Al > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > new version. > > > > > > Sorry for perhaps not catching on, > > > but are you suggesting setting up a single account for all of the > > > directorate and using "Google Tasks" to aggregate the review > > > statuses ? > > > > > > While this could work, I think there are perhaps better options. > > > > > > The simplest would be just maintaining a table with draft-name + > > reviewer > > > + status + date > > > on a wiki. > > > > > > As a reviewer for several academic journals I know they have tools > > > (much too advanced for our present needs) that select the most > > > appropriate reviewer(s), send them emails, receive their > > > acceptance/rejection of the task, send email reminders when the due > > > date approaches, input the review, etc. > > > > > > Y(J)S > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 17:00 > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise); pm-dir@ietf.org; Paul Aitken (paitken); > > Alan > > > DeKok > > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > new version. > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Ok Benoit, > > > > I have a version of the doc going, but probably won't finish till > > > > after the revised deadline expires... > > > > > > > > Before going further, it would be useful to know if anyone in the > > > > directorate objects to using or establishing a gmail account in > > > > order to register their review assignments and status. > > > > > > > > > > No objection. I think it's a great solution. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- Carlos. > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Al > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pm-dir mailing list > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From acmorton@att.com Tue Mar 5 06:22:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D2621F89D2 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:22:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6AviYVP8nW5Q for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [192.20.225.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87D721F89C3 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.10]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC881201C8; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com [135.207.177.33]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A53E36D7; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:15:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299]) by njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299%11]) with mapi; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:22:43 -0500 From: "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , Yaakov Stein , "pm-dir@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:22:43 -0500 Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. Thread-Index: AQHOD3rskk7cOBCP20yAGfWoyAqM85iD4t1QgABdGmCAEYDVEIABOIUggAA/PRA= Message-ID: References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:22:49 -0000 Hi Dan, A couple weeks back I posted this: > > I'd prefer a solution where: > > - everyone can view the page > > - directorate reviewers can edit the page > > - all editing is WYSIWYG > > - no collisions between editors > > (if two people are editing, they can see each other and > > pressing save does not overwrite a nested editing session) > > > > Unfortunately, the last two points are beyond Trac's capability. > > I think that I could create a doc on Google Drive that > > would meet all the above criteria. The editing collision aspect is important, because when I posted the link yesterday, several people viewed the page anonymously within a few minutes (as owner with the page on my screen, I could see this). If they had all been=20 editing the Wiki Trac page, over-write collisions would be likely. I established a gmail account to work on a doc with=20 Matt Mathis, and I haven't received any spam in that account as a result of having access to a shared doc or now=20 creating a doc. In fact, the only mail I receive is when=20 Matt Responds to or Resolves a comment. If you don't use the=20 Comment feature, I don't think you'll get any mail at all related to this page. Hope this helps, I will share editing with you now. Al > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:32 AM > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL); Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org > Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. >=20 > Hi Al, >=20 > I am @gmail.com on Google. >=20 > However, this is an address which I usually use for personal > communication, and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing persona= l > and professional communications, or about creating another gmail instance > of myself. So I need to ask - what are the advantages / extra capabilitie= s > offered by Google Spreadsheet relative to using a wiki page? >=20 > Thanks and Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behal= f > > Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:59 PM > > To: Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org > > Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > > version. > > > > pm-dir, > > > > This weekend, I experimented with preparing a google doc to track draft= s > > and reviews. I ended-up using a Google Spreadsheet, which seems to be > > nicely suited to the task and adds features that not possible a static > > document table. I have just updated the table with the yesterday's > > script results, adding two new drafts. > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5= bFJ > > vVUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=3Dsharing > > > > > > "everyone" with the link above should be able to view the sheet. > > > > "anyone" in pm-dir who sends me their gmail address (or new address > > prepared for this purpose) will have the editing rights shared with > > them, and can volunteer to review drafts, enter status, etc. > > > > Hopefully, the words in "quotes" above will be true, subject to testing > > which begins now. > > > > Al > > your faithful PMDir Admin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > Behalf Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:36 AM > > > To: Yaakov Stein > > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > new version. > > > > > > > > > Not Google Tasks (which I haven't investigated), just a Google doc > > > with the table: > > > draft-name + reviewer + status + date > > > > > > Which all reviewers can edit WYSIWYG > > > I'll own the doc and share it with the everyone in the directorate > > > (who actually does reviews :-) ). > > > > > > And, that doc won't be ready till after the draft deadline! > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM > > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > > Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org > > > > Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > > new version. > > > > > > > > Sorry for perhaps not catching on, > > > > but are you suggesting setting up a single account for all of the > > > > directorate and using "Google Tasks" to aggregate the review > > > > statuses ? > > > > > > > > While this could work, I think there are perhaps better options. > > > > > > > > The simplest would be just maintaining a table with draft-name + > > > reviewer > > > > + status + date > > > > on a wiki. > > > > > > > > As a reviewer for several academic journals I know they have tools > > > > (much too advanced for our present needs) that select the most > > > > appropriate reviewer(s), send them emails, receive their > > > > acceptance/rejection of the task, send email reminders when the due > > > > date approaches, input the review, etc. > > > > > > > > Y(J)S > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > > Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 17:00 > > > > To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) > > > > Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise); pm-dir@ietf.org; Paul Aitken (paitken)= ; > > > Alan > > > > DeKok > > > > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - > > > > new version. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok Benoit, > > > > > I have a version of the doc going, but probably won't finish till > > > > > after the revised deadline expires... > > > > > > > > > > Before going further, it would be useful to know if anyone in the > > > > > directorate objects to using or establishing a gmail account in > > > > > order to register their review assignments and status. > > > > > > > > > > > > > No objection. I think it's a great solution. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -- Carlos. > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pm-dir mailing list > > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > > _______________________________________________ > > pm-dir mailing list > > pm-dir@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 8 03:15:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6690421F8507 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 03:15:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iYHs7xJERwIe for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 03:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B70521F84F5 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 03:14:45 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r28B2UaO017148; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:02:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r28B1clV007024; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:01:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:01:38 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Yaakov Stein , "MORTON JR., ALFRED \(AL\)" , "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 11:15:22 -0000 On 5/03/2013 11:31, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi Al, > > I am dromasca@gmail.com on Google. > > However, this is an address which I usually use for personal communication, and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal and professional communications, Same situation here. Anyway, I'm benoit.claise@gmail.com Regards, Benoit > or about creating another gmail instance of myself. So I need to ask - what are the advantages / extra capabilities offered by Google Spreadsheet relative to using a wiki page? > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) >> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 5:59 PM >> To: Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org >> Cc: Alan DeKok (aland@freeradius.org) >> Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new >> version. >> >> pm-dir, >> >> This weekend, I experimented with preparing a google doc to track drafts >> and reviews. I ended-up using a Google Spreadsheet, which seems to be >> nicely suited to the task and adds features that not possible a static >> document table. I have just updated the table with the yesterday's >> script results, adding two new drafts. >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bFJ >> vVUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=sharing >> >> >> "everyone" with the link above should be able to view the sheet. >> >> "anyone" in pm-dir who sends me their gmail address (or new address >> prepared for this purpose) will have the editing rights shared with >> them, and can volunteer to review drafts, enter status, etc. >> >> Hopefully, the words in "quotes" above will be true, subject to testing >> which begins now. >> >> Al >> your faithful PMDir Admin >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On >>> Behalf Of MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) >>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:36 AM >>> To: Yaakov Stein >>> Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - >>> new version. >>> >>> >>> Not Google Tasks (which I haven't investigated), just a Google doc >>> with the table: >>> draft-name + reviewer + status + date >>> >>> Which all reviewers can edit WYSIWYG >>> I'll own the doc and share it with the everyone in the directorate >>> (who actually does reviews :-) ). >>> >>> And, that doc won't be ready till after the draft deadline! >>> >>> Al >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 AM >>>> To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) >>>> Cc: pm-dir@ietf.org >>>> Subject: RE: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - >>>> new version. >>>> >>>> Sorry for perhaps not catching on, >>>> but are you suggesting setting up a single account for all of the >>>> directorate and using "Google Tasks" to aggregate the review >>>> statuses ? >>>> >>>> While this could work, I think there are perhaps better options. >>>> >>>> The simplest would be just maintaining a table with draft-name + >>> reviewer >>>> + status + date >>>> on a wiki. >>>> >>>> As a reviewer for several academic journals I know they have tools >>>> (much too advanced for our present needs) that select the most >>>> appropriate reviewer(s), send them emails, receive their >>>> acceptance/rejection of the task, send email reminders when the due >>>> date approaches, input the review, etc. >>>> >>>> Y(J)S >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 17:00 >>>> To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) >>>> Cc: Benoit Claise (bclaise); pm-dir@ietf.org; Paul Aitken (paitken); >>> Alan >>>> DeKok >>>> Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - >>>> new version. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:36 AM, "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok Benoit, >>>>> I have a version of the doc going, but probably won't finish till >>>>> after the revised deadline expires... >>>>> >>>>> Before going further, it would be useful to know if anyone in the >>>>> directorate objects to using or establishing a gmail account in >>>>> order to register their review assignments and status. >>>>> >>>> No objection. I think it's a great solution. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -- Carlos. >>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Al >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pm-dir mailing list >>> pm-dir@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir >> _______________________________________________ >> pm-dir mailing list >> pm-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir > > From paitken@cisco.com Fri Mar 8 04:15:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE1621F85F5 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:15:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N5ZnYsIFN41v for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-4.cisco.com (ams-iport-4.cisco.com [144.254.224.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A7D21F85BF for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:15:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=222; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1362744918; x=1363954518; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rKoRCAlyp41kzx0fgP0k50a8q3SObVRi9fdN0lAuQfo=; b=lHRcdhT/7kQvDaPmml5bxIft86EF0T02WNrSmnfxwhYvxrawIcLtMoNt e1uETMD1djiHhwtjSA7b4hfRn8Pl2K0tYY2MOhdCPscJKQVaAjqPE9S8M DDPuAmdl1j1/rDF0MPC4QCtuVGuEMNGFLvMGlQNt+j/UOHF6k71OtLuEf s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvAHADTVOVGQ/khM/2dsb2JhbABDhQe4XYZogVkWdIIsAQEBAwE4QAYLCyEMCg8JAwIBAgFFEwgBAYgJBrscjUuBSAoMgyoDllOFeYp5gwqBcg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,807,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="12407946" Received: from ams-core-3.cisco.com ([144.254.72.76]) by ams-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2013 12:15:17 +0000 Received: from [10.55.89.8] (dhcp-10-55-89-8.cisco.com [10.55.89.8]) by ams-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r28CFGlw020850 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:15:17 GMT Message-ID: <5139D656.6020304@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:15:18 +0000 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pm-dir@ietf.org References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:15:19 -0000 Benoit, Dan, Al, > I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal and > professional communications, > Same situation here. Could we create a single shared gmail account exclusively for PM dir? P. From acmorton@att.com Fri Mar 8 05:41:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A85F21F8630 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YaG2RS0lzmcp for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [192.20.225.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEFA21F8600 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.11]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1666E1204A2; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com [135.207.177.33]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B60EF667; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299]) by njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299%11]) with mapi; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:41:55 -0500 From: "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" To: Benoit Claise , "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:41:53 -0500 Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. Thread-Index: Ac4b7HZwHCzNRrqpSJqbgE0v1TUEgAAFB/3g Message-ID: References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Yaakov Stein , "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:41:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:02 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL); Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org; Alan DeKok > (aland@freeradius.org) > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. >=20 > On 5/03/2013 11:31, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > Hi Al, > > > > I am dxxxxxxx@gmail.com on Google. > > > > However, this is an address which I usually use for personal > communication, and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing persona= l > and professional communications, > Same situation here. > Anyway, I'm xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com > >Regards, Benoit You won't receive pm-dir-related email in that account, unless you add a comment and someone replies to or resolves the comment. So, just edit, and when you want to comment on something, send e-mail to pm-dir and your personal/business line should remain intact, AFAICT. I've just shared the editing privileges with you, and you=20 won't get a welcome message :-) but you'll need to sign-in to edit the sheet (it's a sufficiently functional spread-sheet).=20 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bFJv= VUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=3Dsharing Al From acmorton@att.com Fri Mar 8 05:58:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BFC21F85CE for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:58:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D9M8u3dkSwtn for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [192.20.225.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5837D21F85D9 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.11]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A820A1204A8; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com [135.207.177.33]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D91EF685; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299]) by njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299%11]) with mapi; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:58:09 -0500 From: "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" To: Paul Aitken , "pm-dir@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:58:08 -0500 Thread-Topic: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. Thread-Index: Ac4b9qIjmNWvdBnGQQO2/3xTHWWzagADVmdA Message-ID: References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> <5139D656.6020304@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5139D656.6020304@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:58:15 -0000 It's an interesting idea, and it would allow a limited number of people to edit in parallel, where the limit is unknown. Also unknown (to me) is how Google will respond to many different browsers, ipaddrs, etc. using the same account. It could raise a flag and get blocked, because it might look like account theft to=20 Google. FYI - I plan to make a backup copy of the sheet on every Monday I think of it, in case our sheet is somehow defiled or deleted. Al > -----Original Message----- > From: pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Paul Aitken > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 7:15 AM > To: pm-dir@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new > version. >=20 > Benoit, Dan, Al, >=20 > > I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal and > > professional communications, >=20 > > Same situation here. >=20 > Could we create a single shared gmail account exclusively for PM dir? >=20 > P. > _______________________________________________ > pm-dir mailing list > pm-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-dir From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 8 09:04:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015E21F8783 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:04:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.613 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.613 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xwx590I3xSKH for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7083D21F8767 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:04:57 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r28H4kk2025769; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:04:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r28H3tqO015107; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:04:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <513A19FA.1030601@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:03:54 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)" References: <20130204115318.GA9086@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> <510FA460.3060102@cisco.com> <511E17E4.1020809@cisco.com> <512395D3.7000002@cisco.com> <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED3229935B7@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC904C8C95E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA09E929@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <5139C512.7050003@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , "pm-dir@ietf.org" , Yaakov Stein , "Alan DeKok \(aland@freeradius.org\)" Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new version. X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:04:58 -0000 Thanks. That works for me. Regards, Benoit >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] >> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:02 AM >> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) >> Cc: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL); Yaakov Stein; pm-dir@ietf.org; Alan DeKok >> (aland@freeradius.org) >> Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email - new >> version. >> >> On 5/03/2013 11:31, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >>> Hi Al, >>> >>> I am dxxxxxxx@gmail.com on Google. >>> >>> However, this is an address which I usually use for personal >> communication, and I am not very enthusiastic either about mixing personal >> and professional communications, >> Same situation here. >> Anyway, I'm xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com >> >> Regards, Benoit > You won't receive pm-dir-related email in that account, > unless you add a comment and someone replies to or resolves the > comment. So, just edit, and when you want to comment on something, > send e-mail to pm-dir and your personal/business line should > remain intact, AFAICT. > > I've just shared the editing privileges with you, and you > won't get a welcome message :-) but you'll need to sign-in > to edit the sheet (it's a sufficiently functional spread-sheet). > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmKrqWIOBsprdGZqMnB6dmx5bFJvVUhta3VLSjl3SkE&usp=sharing > > > Al > > From bclaise@cisco.com Sun Mar 10 06:24:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C6B21F8512 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:24:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yh9gKCAlQzDB for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D12621F842A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=4992; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1362921872; x=1364131472; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=zQY88sdTVmNWDHroV7n2OpbzJarOJ4+gu5G8hXCM2pg=; b=asRKw8vyDg44LDohKCmUQ1Lf954z1d3TzzGHWsWO6csObyaSjA445zh3 ZApAr/LneMEKG/wGmXsin5LvqPWi6490qUmqLqFp/WmnmPu5k/4Oq+4u3 /R/fLvbQpGft3nzifJhmc/DjFpamCsNpEqGrTCzCklyt28arF3jlzgg7Z s=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,817,1355097600"; d="scan'208,217";a="185815601" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2013 13:24:32 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r2ADOVHP001547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:24:31 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com ([169.254.7.138]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:24:31 -0500 From: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)" To: "'pm-dir@ietf.org'" , "'Alan DeKok'" Thread-Topic: Performance Metris Directorate (change to Friday) Thread-Index: Ac4dkmt6wxxA3bYEQiyg70XkmgXXpQAACxpw Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:24:30 +0000 Message-ID: <948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C91469D@xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.117.251] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C91469Dxmbalnx12ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:55:25 -0700 Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" , Yaakov Stein , "Paul Aitken \(paitken\)" , Brian Trammell , "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , Andreas Johnsson A , "henk.uijterwaal@gmail.com" , "'MORTON JR., ALFRED \(AL\)'" Subject: [pm-dir] Performance Metris Directorate (change to Friday) X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:24:33 -0000 --_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C91469Dxmbalnx12ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Update with the room : Boca 8 Dear all, Changing to the Friday due to some conflicts with rmcat Regards, Benoit --_000_948BBFADA71C834BAAE1DEF7CC6030940C91469Dxmbalnx12ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Update with the room : Boca 8
 
Dear all,
 
Changing to the Friday due to some conflicts with rmcat
 
Regards, Benoit
 
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Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:06:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:06:06 +0100 From: Benoit Claise To: pm-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130310220606.GA7898@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:09:25 -0000 Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference. It also lists all the IETF internet-drafts that contain "performance metric". Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-08 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active drafts containing performance metric ------------------------------------ draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06 Active draft-ietf-alto-protocol-14 Active draft-ietf-bmwg-ca-bench-meth-04 Active draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-02 Active draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-02 Active draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-05 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-06 Active draft-ietf-nvo3-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-06 Active draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-08 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02 Active From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 15 06:18:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B9A21F87EA for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vfvG-JWstajs for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (av-tac-rtp.cisco.com [64.102.19.209]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0413621F915F for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:18:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FDIXUa010577 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.86.244.15] ([10.86.244.15]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FDIWnf023654 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51431FA8.70105@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:18:32 -0400 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pm-dir@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pm-dir] Cron job X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:18:37 -0000 Dear all, As discussed, here is the cron job: https://github.com/alandekok/ietf-tech-report Regards, Benoit From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 15 07:19:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE5421F848D for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZIRmHQHR8Adn for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (av-tac-rtp.cisco.com [64.102.19.209]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691C021F8488 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FEIpwZ018476; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.86.244.15] ([10.86.244.15]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FEIohc014014; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51432DCA.60804@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:18:50 -0400 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shida Schubert , "pm-dir@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jo@comnet.tkk.fi, "Dan \(Dan\)" , Varun Singh , Gonzalo Camarillo , jo@netlab.tkk.fi Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Request for an RFC6390 review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-05 X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:19:00 -0000 Dear pm-dir, Who is able to help with this review? Note: Alan, Brian, Al, Dan, and I have been taking a couple of drafts today during our meeting at the IETF. Regards, Benoit > Hi Benoit; > > This is Shida, a co-chair of XRBLOCK WG. > > Based on the discussion yesterday, I am requesting > review of the following draft to be reviewed by the > performance metrics directorate. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-05 > > Draft is post-WGLC. > > Many Thanks > Shida > > From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 15 07:20:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5079E21F8857 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9WoGgM9WZAh4 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (av-tac-rtp.cisco.com [64.102.19.209]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD78E21F8841 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FEJxih018613; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.86.244.15] ([10.86.244.15]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2FEJwM4015455; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51432E0E.4090107@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:19:58 -0400 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shida Schubert , "pm-dir@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Dan \(Dan\)" , sunseawq@huawei.com, Gonzalo Camarillo , Alan Clark , Glen Zorn Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Request for an RFC6390 review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:20:16 -0000 Dear pm-dir, And here is another one. Who is willing to help on this one? Regards, Benoit > Hi Benoit; > > This is Shida, a co-chair of XRBLOCK WG. > > Based on the discussion yesterday, I am requesting > review of the following draft to be reviewed by the > performance metrics directorate. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 > > Draft is post-WGLC. > > Many Thanks > Shida > > > From acmorton@att.com Fri Mar 15 08:30:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1345021F8651; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:30:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3pF3LyV-DfD; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [192.20.225.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED98B21F843F; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.11]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F3E12062F; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njfpsrvexg1.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg1.research.att.com [135.207.177.20]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6B1F00ED; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njfpsrvexg7.research.att.com ([fe80::3598:75fe:b400:9299]) by njfpsrvexg1.research.att.com ([fe80::58ce:ca01:5d18:db01%13]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:13 -0400 From: "MORTON JR., ALFRED C (AL)" To: "ops-dir@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss.all@tools.ietf.org" , "pm-dir@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:12 -0400 Thread-Topic: Operations Directorate Review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 Thread-Index: Ac4hjkGJWxOawlqiSY65ILx3HOLRtg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F1312FAF1A1E624DA0972D1C9A91379A1BFB90E34Cnjfpsrvexg7re_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [pm-dir] Operations Directorate Review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:30:18 -0000 --_000_F1312FAF1A1E624DA0972D1C9A91379A1BFB90E34Cnjfpsrvexg7re_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OPS-Dir, authors, ADs, This is a somewhat brief and combined OPS-DIR and PM-DIR review of the subject draft. Al -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- As this draft specifies addition metrics for use in monitoring performance, the operator has the choice to deploy this or not, and the applicability of the metrics is clearly stated (so there should be few misunderstandings of the results). As a result, I don't foresee an operations issue here. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- In Section 3.2: Reserved (resv): 5 bits These bits are reserved. They MUST be set to zero by senders and ignored by receivers (See RFC6709 section 4.2). The block MUST be discarded if the block length is set to a different value. block length: 16 bits The length of this report block in 32-bit words, minus one. For the Burst/Gap Loss block, the block length is equal to 5. The block MUST be discarded if the block length is set to a different value. The last sentence of the Reserved field is not correct, as it refers to block length. What must the receiver do if the resv bits are non-zero? This has next-gen/future implications, of course. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Threshold: 8 bits The Threshold is equivalent to Gmin in [RFC3611], i.e. the number of successive packets that must be received prior to and following a lost packet in order for this lost packet to be regarded as part of a gap. Why is this field re-named? Consistency with 3611 implies using the term Gm= in. The VAD silence Gmin calculation consideration raised in section 4 should be noted here in the definition. (and, the term used in section 4 is Gmin, not Threshold) -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- From: Tina TSOU [mailto:Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:21 PM To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL) Cc: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: Request for Operations Directorate Review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rt= cp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 by 2013-03-15 Hello, As a member of the Operations Directorate you are being asked to review the= following draft which is in IETF last call for it's operational impact. IETF Last Call: The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss/b= allot/ Please provide comments and review to the Ops-dir mailing list (ops-dir@iet= f.org) by 2013-03-15, and include the authors of t= he draft as well. A Check-list of possible questions/topics to address in an OPS-DIR review m= ay be found in Appendix A of RFC 5706. Only include the questions that apply to your review. Would you add the review requests and update the status by yourself at our = wiki page? http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/Reviews Thank you, Tina --_000_F1312FAF1A1E624DA0972D1C9A91379A1BFB90E34Cnjfpsrvexg7re_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OPS-Dir, authors, ADs,

 

This is a somewhat brief = and combined OPS-DIR and PM-DIR

<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>review of the sub= ject draft.

 

Al<= o:p>

 

= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-

 

As= this draft specifies addition metrics for use in monitoring

performance, the operator has the choice to deploy this or not,=

and the applicability of the metrics is clearly = stated (so

there should be few misunderstandings= of the results). As a result,

I don't foresee an= operations issue here.

 <= /p>

-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-

 =

In Section 3.2:

   Reserved (resv): 5 bits

 

      These bits are re= served.  They MUST be set to zero by senders and

=

      ignored b= y receivers (See RFC6709 section 4.2).  The block MUST be

      = discarded if the block length is set to a different value.

 

 

   block length: 16 bits

 

      The length of this repor= t block in 32-bit words, minus one.  For

      the Burst/Gap Los= s block, the block length is equal to 5.  The

      block MUST b= e discarded if the block length is set to a different

=

      value.

 

The last sentence of the Reserved= field is not correct, as it refers

to block length.  What must the receiver do if the re= sv bits are non-zero?

 

-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-

 

Threshold: 8 bits

 

      of successive packets that must be rece= ived prior to and following

      a lost packet in order for this los= t packet to be regarded as part

      of a gap.

=

 

Why is this field re-named? Consistency with 3611 im= plies using the term Gmin.

 

The= VAD silence Gmin calculation consideration raised in section 4 =

should be noted here in the= definition.

=  

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>(and, the term us= ed in section 4 is Gmin, not Threshold)

 

-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-

 

=  

 <= /o:p>

 

 

From: Tina TSOU [mailto:Tina= .Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:21 PM<= br>To: MORTON JR., ALFRED (AL)
Cc: ops-ads@tools.ietf.org<= br>Subject: Request for Operations Directorate Review of draft-ietf-= xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 by 2013-03-15

=

 

Hello,

As a member of the Operations Directorate you are being asked to re= view the following draft which is in IETF last call for it's operational im= pact.

 <= o:p>

IETF Last Cal= l:

The file can be obtained via

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap= -loss/

IESG discussion can be tracked via=

http= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss/ballo= t/

&= nbsp;

Please provi= de comments and review to the Ops-dir mailing list (ops-dir@ietf.org) by 2013-03-15, and include the auth= ors of the draft as well.

 

A Check-list of possible questions/topics to address in an OPS-DIR r= eview may be found in Appendix A of RFC 5706.

Only include the questions that apply to y= our review.

&= nbsp;

Would y= ou add the review requests and update the status by yourself at our wiki pa= ge?

http:/= /trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/Reviews

 

 

Thank you,

Tina

 

 <= /p>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

= --_000_F1312FAF1A1E624DA0972D1C9A91379A1BFB90E34Cnjfpsrvexg7re_-- From bclaise@cisco.com Sun Mar 17 15:09:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C89A21F8A04 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.543 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.543 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LynHV4viptQE for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D3721F89EE for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:09:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2HM6aAA028980 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:06:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (sweet-brew-5.cisco.com [144.254.10.206]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2HM67OD010783 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:06:17 +0100 (CET) Received: (from bclaise@localhost) by sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id r2HM6446026808 for pm-dir@ietf.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:06:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:06:03 +0100 From: Benoit Claise To: pm-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130317220603.GA26794@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:09:38 -0000 Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference. It also lists all the IETF internet-drafts that contain "performance metric". Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active drafts containing performance metric ------------------------------------ draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06 Active draft-ietf-alto-protocol-14 Active draft-ietf-bmwg-ca-bench-meth-04 Active draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-02 Active draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-02 Active draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-05 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-06 Active draft-ietf-nvo3-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-06 Active draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02 Active From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 22 02:10:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664821F9022 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:10:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.336 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.336 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7cXjqrQ6fmBb for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692A421F8F16 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:10:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2M9Afje006464 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:10:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2M9AB6h004247 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:10:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <514C1FD5.7060201@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:09:41 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pm-dir@ietf.org" References: <20130322022816.28303.54185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130322022816.28303.54185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130322022816.28303.54185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020907030603010408040301" Subject: [pm-dir] RFC 6390 use: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10.txt X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:10:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020907030603010408040301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear perf metric reviewers, I spent quite some time with Qin and Dan on the RFC 6390 template section for this document. See the result is in the appendix A. We, as the perf metric directorate, should start to shoot for consistency between all drafts now. Note: for this draft, we compromised on having the RFC 6390 template in the appendix, as opposed to the body of the document. The reason is that there is no clear boundary for this set of perf metrics: these are new metrics, but defined based on existing ones. For any new metric definition, this should be in the draft body. Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10.txt Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:28:16 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: xrblock-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat@tools.ietf.org, gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com, bclaise@cisco.com A new version (-10) has been submitted for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat/ Diff from previous version: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10 IETF Secretariat. --------------020907030603010408040301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear perf metric reviewers,

I spent quite some time with Qin and Dan on the RFC 6390 template section for this document. See the result is in the appendix A.
We, as the perf metric directorate, should start to shoot for consistency between all drafts now.

Note: for this draft, we compromised on having the RFC 6390 template in the appendix, as opposed to the body of the document. The reason is that there is no clear boundary for this set of perf metrics: these are new metrics, but defined based on existing ones.
For any new metric definition, this should be in the draft body.

Regards, Benoit



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10.txt
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:28:16 -0700
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: xrblock-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat@tools.ietf.org, gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com, bclaise@cisco.com 


A new version (-10) has been submitted for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10.txt


The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat/

Diff from previous version:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10

IETF Secretariat.


--------------020907030603010408040301-- From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 22 02:20:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506BE21F903E for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.351 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.351 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PBnN48FmSVMo for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09E321F903C for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 02:20:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2M9JvOo007398; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:19:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2M9IPbk011031; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:18:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <514C21C2.5040808@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:17:54 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shida Schubert , "pm-dir@ietf.org" References: <51432DCA.60804@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <51432DCA.60804@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jo@comnet.tkk.fi, "Dan \(Dan\)" , Varun Singh , Gonzalo Camarillo , jo@netlab.tkk.fi Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Request for an RFC6390 review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-05 X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:20:07 -0000 Dear pm-dir, Any taker? I sent a couple of requests recently. draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-05 draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability Those drafts are in the Waiting for AD Go-Ahead. So it's about time. Regards, Benoit > Dear pm-dir, > > Who is able to help with this review? > Note: Alan, Brian, Al, Dan, and I have been taking a couple of drafts > today during our meeting at the IETF. > > Regards, Benoit >> Hi Benoit; >> >> This is Shida, a co-chair of XRBLOCK WG. >> >> Based on the discussion yesterday, I am requesting >> review of the following draft to be reviewed by the >> performance metrics directorate. >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-05 >> >> Draft is post-WGLC. >> >> Many Thanks >> Shida >> >> > From bill.wu@huawei.com Thu Mar 21 04:09:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB221F9014; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 04:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.253 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.253 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.708, 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Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state drafts containing performance metric ------------------------------------ draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06 Active draft-ietf-alto-protocol-14 Active draft-ietf-bmwg-ca-bench-meth-04 Active draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-02 Active draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-02 Active draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-05 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-07 Active draft-ietf-nvo3-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-06 Active draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-04 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02 Active From bclaise@cisco.com Sun Mar 31 14:25:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pm-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F03021F86C2 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:25:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qVMF3lFG6e+F for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E5C21F86C1 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:25:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2VL6cPp012634 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (sweet-brew-5.cisco.com [144.254.10.206]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2VL68Zj020096 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:06:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from bclaise@localhost) by sweet-brew-5.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id r2VL65lX009664 for pm-dir@ietf.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:06:05 +0200 From: Benoit Claise To: pm-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130331210605.GA9662@sweet-brew-5.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: [pm-dir] Performance metrics doctors generated email X-BeenThere: pm-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics Directorate Discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:25:06 -0000 Dear all, This is an automatically generated email. It lists the IETF internet-drafts that reference the PMOL RFC 6390, as a normative or informative reference. It also lists all the IETF internet-drafts that contain "performance metric". Regards, Benoit =========================================================== Normative References -------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active Informative References ---------------------- draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-11 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state drafts containing performance metric ------------------------------------ draft-ietf-alto-deployments-06 Active draft-ietf-alto-protocol-14 Active draft-ietf-bmwg-ca-bench-meth-04 Active draft-ietf-ippm-rate-problem-02 Active draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-02 Active draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-05 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-07 Active draft-ietf-nvo3-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-08 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-aware-00 Active draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-06 Active draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-02 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-loss-09 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-concsec-03 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-decodability-10 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-11 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-rle-metrics-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-jb-09 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-loss-conceal-05 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-06 Active draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-11 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02 Active