From nobody Fri Nov 1 00:23:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03F4120115 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 00:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QaEAV-N6W2x3 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 00:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B3731200FA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 00:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0B3A091B for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 00:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572593026; bh=dxHtR5VqpboLPBmMGx12UBINq7rnDcISj7xGKwER9oA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=z4LsMRCWqleM/3f9lA63fQc5i53nB+TJCIhznroKLo+Di2ionBMDf0JExr03nJun4 MnF6lP0ztPzU1NaXOgN38Z9OixChXiilChARv7osmK669RETzVZsN1ChLWCE3+soQl NSK1crWbNFImHY11H0yVPnqCEWG1eCH2kliN9x1o= Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 00:23:46 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Immediately close with INVALID_TOKEN (#3107) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbbdd8210b2d_186e3ffd7e8cd9608895d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 07:23:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbbdd8210b2d_186e3ffd7e8cd9608895d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token, +it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. It can either I don't understand this sentence. How would the server know this for sure? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#pullrequestreview-310320520 ----==_mimepart_5dbbdd8210b2d_186e3ffd7e8cd9608895d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

I don't understand this sentence. How would the server know this for sure?

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An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are used to protect the +packet. The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set of 1-RTT +packets and toggled to signal each subsequent key update. I think that this sentence, along with the sentence stating that "an endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received an acknowledgment for a packet that it sent protected with keys from the current key phase" is introducing a design change. At the moment, we allow the first key update to be executed when the handshake is confirmed, while prohibiting subsequent key updates happening before receiving an ACK for the preceding key update. That has meant that if an endpoint were to send its first 1-RTT packet after the handshake has been confirmed could send the first 1-RTT packet with the Key Phase bit set to 1. 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@kazuho requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.
+The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are used to protect the
+packet.  The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set of 1-RTT
+packets and toggled to signal each subsequent key update.

I think that this sentence, along with the sentence stating that "an endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having received an acknowledgment for a packet that it sent protected with keys from the current key phase" is introducing a design change.

At the moment, we allow the first key update to be executed when the handshake is confirmed, while prohibiting subsequent key updates happening before receiving an ACK for the preceding key update. That has meant that if an endpoint were to send its first 1-RTT packet after the handshake has been confirmed could send the first 1-RTT packet with the Key Phase bit set to 1. The new text prohibits that.

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Aside from my previous review comment, I only have nitpicks. Sorry for submitting comments at this moment. > @@ -1168,89 +1168,226 @@ anticipation of receiving a ClientHello. # Key Update -Once the handshake is confirmed, it is possible to update the keys. The -KEY_PHASE bit in the short header is used to indicate whether key updates -have occurred. The KEY_PHASE bit is initially set to 0 and then inverted -with each key update. +Once the handshake is confirmed (see {{handshake-confirmed}}), it is possible to +update the keys used to protect packets. We might want to change "possible to update the keys" to "possible to initiate a key update"? This is because an endpoint might receive a key update(s) before it confirms the handshake. Or, we can punt such a change to the PR that will fix the handshake key discard problem. > For the sending of packets, construction and protection of packet payloads and packet numbers MUST be free from side-channels that would reveal the packet number or its encoded size. +During a key update, the time taken to generate new keys could reveal through +timing side-channels that a key update has occurred. Alternatively, where an +attacker injects packets this side-channel could reveal the value of the Key +Phase on injected packets. After receiving a key update, an endpoint SHOULD +generate and save the next set of receive packet protection keys. By generating Maybe add ", following the advices in {{receive-key-generation}}"? I suggest this is because without such a note, "After receiving a key update" could be confusing. > For the sending of packets, construction and protection of packet payloads and packet numbers MUST be free from side-channels that would reveal the packet number or its encoded size. +During a key update, the time taken to generate new keys could reveal through +timing side-channels that a key update has occurred. Alternatively, where an +attacker injects packets this side-channel could reveal the value of the Key +Phase on injected packets. After receiving a key update, an endpoint SHOULD +generate and save the next set of receive packet protection keys. By generating +new keys before a key update is received, receipt of packets will not create +timing signals that leak the value of the Key Phase. + +This depends on not doing this key generation during packet processing and it +can require that endpoints maintain three sets of packet protection keys for +receiving: for the previous key phase, for the current key phase, and for the +next key phase. Endpoints MAY instead choose to defer generation of the next Maybe s/MAY/can/ as we have concrete advice using normative language in {{receive-key-generation}}. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3050#pullrequestreview-310324691 ----==_mimepart_5dbbe5606e833_167e3fd5312cd968903576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

Aside from my previous review comment, I only have nitpicks.

Sorry for submitting comments at this moment.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1168,89 +1168,226 @@ anticipation of receiving a ClientHello.
 
 # Key Update
 
-Once the handshake is confirmed, it is possible to update the keys. The
-KEY_PHASE bit in the short header is used to indicate whether key updates
-have occurred. The KEY_PHASE bit is initially set to 0 and then inverted
-with each key update.
+Once the handshake is confirmed (see {{handshake-confirmed}}), it is possible to
+update the keys used to protect packets.

We might want to change "possible to update the keys" to "possible to initiate a key update"? This is because an endpoint might receive a key update(s) before it confirms the handshake.

Or, we can punt such a change to the PR that will fix the handshake key discard problem.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
 For the sending of packets, construction and protection of packet payloads and
 packet numbers MUST be free from side-channels that would reveal the packet
 number or its encoded size.
 
+During a key update, the time taken to generate new keys could reveal through
+timing side-channels that a key update has occurred.  Alternatively, where an
+attacker injects packets this side-channel could reveal the value of the Key
+Phase on injected packets.  After receiving a key update, an endpoint SHOULD
+generate and save the next set of receive packet protection keys.  By generating

Maybe add ", following the advices in {{receive-key-generation}}"?

I suggest this is because without such a note, "After receiving a key update" could be confusing.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
 For the sending of packets, construction and protection of packet payloads and
 packet numbers MUST be free from side-channels that would reveal the packet
 number or its encoded size.
 
+During a key update, the time taken to generate new keys could reveal through
+timing side-channels that a key update has occurred.  Alternatively, where an
+attacker injects packets this side-channel could reveal the value of the Key
+Phase on injected packets.  After receiving a key update, an endpoint SHOULD
+generate and save the next set of receive packet protection keys.  By generating
+new keys before a key update is received, receipt of packets will not create
+timing signals that leak the value of the Key Phase.
+
+This depends on not doing this key generation during packet processing and it
+can require that endpoints maintain three sets of packet protection keys for
+receiving: for the previous key phase, for the current key phase, and for the
+next key phase.  Endpoints MAY instead choose to defer generation of the next

Maybe s/MAY/can/ as we have concrete advice using normative language in {{receive-key-generation}}.

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----==_mimepart_5dbbe5606e833_167e3fd5312cd968903576-- From nobody Fri Nov 1 01:03:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D070120108 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 01:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Y3EL_yF63B6 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 01:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79D3E1200F5 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 01:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 01:03:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572595415; bh=wb8KV6zL8GJxvImOZD4Af01iEKL8bkaaxA+AJmfx834=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dFCNKsAN/8BTCrIg8a64PgtAFCum0mAATXPyuAdS25JFeB5DVsEIWxbhauGXidHgv uQ2ZzYZFU3iQTHZoK+BZ2Dg/p8n0pRDboZZac+pD+yp2jyqrb59B71md7+lVkc9NGt GOq9aTxmYLSTLGsCXA6a25jt2SRUNF/LGRboAihg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Immediately close with INVALID_TOKEN (#3107) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbbe6d7b44a2_67b83fed5b2cd96c7051a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 08:03:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbbe6d7b44a2_67b83fed5b2cd96c7051a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token, +it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. It can either That's a keen observation (I think). There is a chance where a Retry token is considered invalid due to packet becoming corrupt while being transmitted. A server can only say for sure that "the client will not accept another Retry token" unless either of the following conditions are met: * The token is accompanied by a checksum (or an integrity protection). The checksum is correct, but the contents of the Retry token is invalid. * The server successfully unprotects the Initial. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#discussion_r341481158 ----==_mimepart_5dbbe6d7b44a2_67b83fed5b2cd96c7051a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

That's a keen observation (I think).

There is a chance where a Retry token is considered invalid due to packet becoming corrupt while being transmitted. A server can only say for sure that "the client will not accept another Retry token" unless either of the following conditions are met:

  • The token is accompanied by a checksum (or an integrity protection). The checksum is correct, but the contents of the Retry token is invalid.
  • The server successfully unprotects the Initial.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

The client could also connect to an unexpected endpoint or the token could have expired.

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LGTM. I have one editorial suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

Let me retract my comment above. We do not need to care about the packet becoming corrupt on the wire, because the prerequisite for responding with a CONNECTION_CLOSE is that the Initial that has been received can be unprotected.

To avoid confusion, maybe change "If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token" to "If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an invalid Retry token"?

The client could also connect to an unexpected endpoint or the token could have expired.

I'd say that that's a failure in the server deployment. We do not discuss how that should be handled.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

I'd say that that's a failure in the server deployment. We do not discuss how that should be handled.

Since Retry is processed before handshake, why can't it just be the client sending to the wrong IP address?

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out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB81A1200CE for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 06:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:31:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572615072; bh=ggTK2AGzGawZ4gtWF9IBOiRepGSOy5nmXCdVPN2c79U=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=crRc/oDTXUP48PcwDwxJpXFAZFZFN66ImStv2F0u/N/txHbmaGdRPWymJb+Nqi6ze LmdxhLKZGmC0Qoplrkt3hzOLeEMFhwtS/pmObwjQruNnLT3adDPeJBtq5n+R5e50fU lWmleC2MKctWbwciTrwp91p/omhUR5FOHbvaC/fc= From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 35c7a5: Initial secrets change after Retry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1153,8 +1174,9 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
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-  loss_time, pn_space = GetEarliestLossTime()
-  if (loss_time != 0):
+  earliest_loss_time, pn_space =
+    GetEarliestTimeAndSpace(loss_times)

Thanks, I missed that one.

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3181 -- Commit Summary -- * HTTP changelog * Nothing non-editorial for QPACK -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (8) M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3181.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3181.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3181 ----==_mimepart_5dbc466c38902_7d063fe400acd96414759f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Since QPACK only had editorial changes, I threw that in here as well.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3181

Commit Summary

  • HTTP changelog
  • Nothing non-editorial for QPACK

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
+it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either

#3128 requires being able to distinguish between the two types of tokens. I updated the text with Kazuho's suggestion about being able to unprotect the Initial.

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After reading this, it feels a bit duplicative to whether a loss_time is present to me, but I'm writing a PR so people can take a look.

Fixes #3151

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3182

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[ci skip] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:46:29 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 34faad762ecd591c9432cc262491dcef4656e592 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/34faad762ecd591c9432cc262491dcef4656e592 Author: ID Bot Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-http.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-http.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-tls.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html A ianswett-timer-mode/draft-ietf-quic-transport.txt A ianswett-timer-mode/index.html M index.html Log Message: ----------- Script updating gh-pages from ac7d4791. 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I wrote up #3182, but I don't think it's an improvement. Maybe it wasn't what you had in mind, @marten-seemann ?

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When not pacing packets, limit the CWND increase to 2 packets per ACK frame received and cite RFC3465.

Fixes #3094

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This time period includes the estimated network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar), and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might -delay sending an acknowledgement. +delay sending an acknowledgement. When the PTO is armed for Initial or +Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0. "The endpoint may not have the peer's max_ack_delay when sending Initial or Handshake packets. The endpoint SHOULD set the max_ack_delay to 0 when arming a PTO for Initial or Handshake packet number spaces." This brings up a question: I don't think transport params are available until the handshake is completed. I think we need tighter text around this to say that max_ack_delay needs to be assumed 0 until transport params are available. I'll file a separate issue for that. > The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. +A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. +When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces, +the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, +except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake +completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. Not arming the PTO for +ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server +from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT "from sending a 1-RTT packet in response to a PTO expiration before ..." > The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring immediately. +A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. +When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces, +the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, +except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake +completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. Not arming the PTO for +ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server +from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT +packet. When probe packets from two different packet number spaces are sent +when the PTO fires and both spaces have in-flight packets, this simplifies to +setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number space. Can you reword this sentence? It's got two "when"s and it is a mouthful > When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe -congestion. The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is -limited by the endpoint's idle timeout. +congestion. Even when there are ack-eliciting packets in-flight in multiple +packet number spaces, the exponential increase in probe timeout occurs across +all spaces to prevent excess load on the network. For example, a timeout in +the Initial packet number space doubles the length of the timeout in the +Handshake packet number space. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -461,21 +464,34 @@ The PTO period is the amount of time that a sender ought to wait for an
 acknowledgement of a sent packet.  This time period includes the estimated
 network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar),
 and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might
-delay sending an acknowledgement.
+delay sending an acknowledgement.  When the PTO is armed for Initial or
+Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0.

"The endpoint may not have the peer's max_ack_delay when sending Initial or Handshake packets. The endpoint SHOULD set the max_ack_delay to 0 when arming a PTO for Initial or Handshake packet number spaces."

This brings up a question: I don't think transport params are available until the handshake is completed. I think we need tighter text around this to say that max_ack_delay needs to be assumed 0 until transport params are available. I'll file a separate issue for that.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT

"from sending a 1-RTT packet in response to a PTO expiration before ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  When probe packets from two different packet number spaces are sent
+when the PTO fires and both spaces have in-flight packets, this simplifies to
+setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number space.

Can you reword this sentence? It's got two "when"s and it is a mouthful

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
 value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
 the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
-congestion.  The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is
-limited by the endpoint's idle timeout.
+congestion.  Even when there are ack-eliciting packets in-flight in multiple
+packet number spaces, the exponential increase in probe timeout occurs across
+all spaces to prevent excess load on the network.  For example, a timeout in
+the Initial packet number space doubles the length of the timeout in the
+Handshake packet number space.

Are all timers restarted at this point?

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----==_mimepart_5dbc7319a0fb1_7893fecee2cd95c1624de-- From nobody Fri Nov 1 11:08:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12C01208BD for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fUajfdzaOAox for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A9D12098F for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 11:08:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572631724; bh=vv/EGGUjGEd2I0HJiSj9hN1Qr1UdWxJdYEm05+RQbXU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ozyhey8deVeiYXyAPdfxGcOkPYOxI/tH1OPBffkEWSJstJtlYgTWAnqv7k8cxojar eev92IHcSBw6o+nJHLV2CJpPau4D1hZ3QS7bxOUTCNS7YdYwkozrJ17+wx9Fcel/p/ gPrZZXK296LAfbZJZyR+eryYodje5pkI88a+/iO0= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change PTO to be per packet number space (#3066) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbc74ac8ded5_6b1e3f86db8cd95c1562c1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 18:08:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbc74ac8ded5_6b1e3f86db8cd95c1562c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -461,21 +464,34 @@ The PTO period is the amount of time that a sender ought to wait for an acknowledgement of a sent packet. This time period includes the estimated network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar), and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might -delay sending an acknowledgement. +delay sending an acknowledgement. When the PTO is armed for Initial or +Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0. We already fixed this issue, see Issue #2638 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3066#discussion_r341690443 ----==_mimepart_5dbc74ac8ded5_6b1e3f86db8cd95c1562c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -461,21 +464,34 @@ The PTO period is the amount of time that a sender ought to wait for an
 acknowledgement of a sent packet.  This time period includes the estimated
 network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar),
 and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might
-delay sending an acknowledgement.
+delay sending an acknowledgement.  When the PTO is armed for Initial or
+Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0.

We already fixed this issue, see Issue #2638

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----==_mimepart_5dbc86a85dbd0_548d3fedb9ecd95c726b8-- From nobody Fri Nov 1 14:21:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759371208B6 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 14:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id REZMa2mE8K1K for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 14:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C78AB120826 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2019 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 14:21:02 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572643262; bh=uxnFFFpOEaIxlbpAztv151P+JsRj4tfCTxvku+7nGRk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TLRKoaKcUeF0imyYy9B98I+x5GFUBfeAZTARvuysohKIMS9yRpUQ5tc5J0nM1Yqt7 BrE39+HECIMk8UzV/CoxcPo5ZyPbBrF6oPrhYZSF7QT8CL8N03dn9i6HdlWBJl17tI nlOh/YSNEgdrH6crIT22UUS1bsEzWd7QHa9bZbiA= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout indicates you will timeout (#3099) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbca1bed8e98_41533f9f3d0cd96c28058d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:21:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbca1bed8e98_41533f9f3d0cd96c28058d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A few comments. I think it would help readability immensely if you could articulate a new timeout period, Idle Timeout (ITO) explicitly. Also, can you change the title of the PR? It's not particularly clarifying. > @@ -2344,28 +2344,30 @@ source address. ## Idle Timeout {#idle-timeout} -If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection is silently closed and the state is -discarded when it remains idle for longer than both the advertised -idle timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and three times the +If the idle timeout is enabled by either peer, a connection is silently closed +and the state is discarded when it remains idle for longer than the ```suggestion and its state is discarded when it remains idle for longer than the ``` > -containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet; see -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent -since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that -connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing ```suggestion at an endpoint is computed as the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing ``` > -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent -since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that -connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close ```suggestion a max_idle_timeout, an endpoint commits to initiating an immediate close ``` > -processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending a packet -containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet; see -{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent -since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that -connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value ```suggestion Each endpoint advertises a max_idle_timeout, but the effective value ``` > -since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that -connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. ```suggestion ({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons the connection prior to the effective value. ``` > -since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that -connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. I don't understand this sentence... what does it mean for an endpoint to initiate an immediate close if it abandons the connection prior to the min? I thought that the endpoint was to initiate an immediate close _at_ the min. Why are we talking about abandoning? > - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is Do you mean an idle timeout timer? I would say that explicitly. Maybe even give it a name - ITO? > -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is +received and processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending +a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet; +see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been +sent since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures Can you write some rationale for these restarting rules? > -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is +received and processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending +a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet; +see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been +sent since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures +that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. + +An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period +risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state +before the packets arrive. If a peer could time out within an Probe Timeout This is not a great construction: "If a peer could time out within a Probe Timeout". It's also confusing ... maybe change this to "When an endpoint is about to send data that cannot be retried safely, it is possible that the peer may have reached the end of its idle timeout period before this data arrives at the peer. To avoid such situations, it is recommended that an endpoint test for liveness when it expects that the peer might be close, within a Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section ...) period for instance, to the end of its idle timeout period." > -: The idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer; see - ({{idle-timeout}}). If this parameter is absent or zero then the idle - timeout is disabled. +: The max idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer; + see ({{idle-timeout}}). Idle timeout is disabled when this parameter is + absent or zero on both sides. Rephrase -- not both sides, but when the parameter is advertized as zero by both endpoints. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Do you mean an idle timeout timer? I would say that explicitly. Maybe = even give it a name - ITO?

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Can you write some rationale for these restarting rules?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective=
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This is not a great construction: "If a peer could time out within a P= robe Timeout". It's also confusing ... maybe change this to "When an end= point is about to send data that cannot be retried safely, it is possible= that the peer may have reached the end of its idle timeout period before= this data arrives at the peer. To avoid such situations, it is recommend= ed that an endpoint test for liveness when it expects that the peer might= be close, within a Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section ...) period for insta= nce, to the end of its idle timeout period."

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+  see ({{idle-timeout}}).  Idle timeout is disabled when this parameter =
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I can see this potentially being easier to read. A few comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,12 +1157,13 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  loss_time, pn_space = GetEarliestLossTime()
-  if (loss_time != 0):
-    // Time threshold loss Detection
-    DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
-    SetLossDetectionTimer()
-    return
+  if (timer_mode == LOSS_DETECTION):
+    loss_time, pn_space = GetEarliestLossTime()
+    if (loss_time != 0):

So, this should not be required. Specifically, I think what we might want here is an ASSERT(loss_time != 0), though an assert might be too harsh. Maybe a warning and return.

Also below, under the else for a PTO, add an assert that mode is PTO.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,12 +1157,13 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():

Perhaps rename this to OnTimeout

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -932,6 +932,10 @@ max_ack_delay:
 loss_detection_timer:

rename this to "timer", with description "multi-modal timer used for loss detection and for sending probes."

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This is fine, but Vidhi is working on a PR for this that includes pseudo-code changes. I'd suggest that we wait for that.

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A few comments. > @@ -1623,6 +1623,14 @@ also constrained in what they can send by the limits set by the congestion controller. Clients are only constrained by the congestion controller. +### Token Construction + +Tokens sent in NEW_TOKEN frames or Retry packets MUST be constructed in a way ```suggestion A token sent in a NEW_TOKEN frame or a Retry packet MUST be constructed in a way ``` > @@ -1675,22 +1683,20 @@ one. The client MUST NOT use the token provided in a Retry for future connections. Servers MAY discard any Initial packet that does not carry the expected token. -A token SHOULD be constructed in a way that allows the server to distinguish it -from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same -field. - -The token MUST NOT include information that would allow it to be linked by an -on-path observer to the connection on which it was issued. For example, it -cannot include the connection ID or addressing information unless the values are -encrypted. - Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used. Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit Make this a MUST too? I don't see why this is a SHOULD. > Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used. Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp that can be used to dynamically calculate the expiration time. A server can store the expiration time or include it in an encrypted form in the token. +A token issued with NEW_TOKEN MUST NOT include information that would allow +values to be linked by an on-path observer to the connection on which it was +issued. 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Make this a MUST too? I don't see why this is a SHOULD.

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Thanks for the changes, @kazuho's text suggestion answers my question. I have a couple more comments. > @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. +It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or +immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection ```suggestion immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an INVALID_TOKEN ``` > @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. +It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or +immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection +error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of ```suggestion error to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of ``` > @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. +It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or +immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection +error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of +waiting for the client to timeout. This suggests 2 options at the server, when there are 3: it can simply drop the packet and let the client time out. You may want to call out all three options. Suggestion: "If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect loss of this connection, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client. If possible, the server SHOULD either immediately close the connection with an INVALID_TOKEN error or proceed with the handshake without verifying the token." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#pullrequestreview-310717275 ----==_mimepart_5dbcaea51f1cd_6c703f9e2b6cd960995be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Thanks for the changes, @kazuho's text suggestion answers my ques= tion. I have a couple more comments.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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lishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to=0D
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance=
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 more resources available for new connections.=0D
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+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contai=
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+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry t=
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+It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or=0D=

+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection estab=
lishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to=0D
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance=
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 more resources available for new connections.=0D
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+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contai=
ns an=0D
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry t=
oken.=0D
+It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or=0D=

+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection=
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+error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of=
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+waiting for the client to timeout.=0D
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This suggests 2 options at the server, when there are 3: it can simply= drop the packet and let the client time out. You may want to call out al= l three options.

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Suggestion: "If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprote= cted but contains an invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not ac= cept another Retry token. The server can drop such a packet and allow the= client to time out to detect loss of this connection, but that is a sign= ificant latency penalty to the client. If possible, the server SHOULD eit= her immediately close the connection with an INVALID_TOKEN error or proce= ed with the handshake without verifying the token."

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Given pacing is the recommended approach, what is the motivation to change the pseudocode?

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The text is reflected in the psuedo-code, so changes to text should be reflected as well. I think it's useful to provide code for those not pacing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or
+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection
+error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of
+waiting for the client to timeout.

I agree that listing all the three options would be an improvement.

At the same time, I have a concern regarding the suggestion of doing either an immediate close or proceeding the handshake. Those two options both require the server to retain state that cannot be delayed by providing a Retry to token to the client.

I think it we might want to downgrade the SHOULD to MAY, or, suggest that a server can send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame (with INVALID_TOKEN) without retaining state.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or
+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection
+error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of
+waiting for the client to timeout.

It should be possible to detect an invalid token without per-connection state, right?

That said, I realized that I don't think we should recommend that a server that might be getting DoSsed SHOULD send out another packet in response. How about "A server that is able to maintain enough state MAY either ..."

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@ianswett Thanks for the PR! I was planning to submit a PR myself to fix the issue I raised, but I got sidetracked by other stuff.

Don't we also need a timer mode for the amplification limit on the client side?

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@ianswett I have a half-baked PR on my disk, but I still need to figure out the details of how this interacts the amplification limit. It seems like on the client side, there's a third timer mode (send anything to unblock the server from the 3x limit).
I'll put some more work into my PR and post it by early next week.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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=0D= = ----==_mimepart_5dbd13c1826a_1f553fd02fecd968185981-- From nobody Sat Nov 2 04:46:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05911213D0 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 04:46:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c5BF0OaYMxO7 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 04:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C69D121206 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 04:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647ABC60481 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 04:46:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572695197; bh=Y+97ADRA0oe3i5aEWGDXGAfZfem5JSb2tTQWZYctxLU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LfZ5rEu+E9rfvTa2A6vRnbByntFNdsHrRcpEVgrefidyVPlzexS9oW9HEI/1SbYwz RkRSdJhBpzBMC5e8iFGxMykJjxQKIjBt3pjSAiuD/u/daiqz0tAiXc6mzEmEv0eaDn NKjdkxJMDJQmzejMrr+fx/egHLI0OiGTfQQFa2hU= Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:46:37 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add an enum indicating the timer_mode (#3182) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbd6c9d55ce2_6793f9d802cd960212253"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 11:46:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbd6c9d55ce2_6793f9d802cd960212253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am treating(and think of) the client amplification mode as a case of PTO, but it sounds like you're writing a PR, so let's wait for that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3182#issuecomment-549036449 ----==_mimepart_5dbd6c9d55ce2_6793f9d802cd960212253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I am treating(and think of) the client amplification mode as a case of PTO, but it sounds like you're writing a PR, so let's wait for that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1151,12 +1157,13 @@ Pseudocode for OnLossDetectionTimeout follows:
 
 ~~~
 OnLossDetectionTimeout():
-  loss_time, pn_space = GetEarliestLossTime()
-  if (loss_time != 0):
-    // Time threshold loss Detection
-    DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
-    SetLossDetectionTimer()
-    return
+  if (timer_mode == LOSS_DETECTION):
+    loss_time, pn_space = GetEarliestLossTime()
+    if (loss_time != 0):

I think we either need an if check or an ASSERT. The following code does not work correctly if you did enter it code and loss_time was 0.

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Closed #3182.

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One other idea would be to add a second timer, so you'd have a loss_timer and pto_timer. I was strongly against this when we had handshake retransmissions and TLP retransmissions and RTO retransmissions, but now that we're down to PTO, I like the idea better. I think that might be simpler to understand than an enum, and you could split the pseudocode into two methods.

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=0D > that we're down to PTO, I like the idea better. I think that mig= ht be
=0D > simpler to understand than an enum, and you could split the pseudoco= de into
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By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. +It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or +immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection +error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of +waiting for the client to timeout. I added a sentence about not creating any state in this case. PTAL. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#discussion_r341824577 ----==_mimepart_5dbde3b9e5a9c_78c43fc7ab0cd96c139647 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,13 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+It can either proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or
+immediately close ({{immediate-close}}) the connection with a connection
+error of INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of
+waiting for the client to timeout.

I added a sentence about not creating any state in this case. PTAL.

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This time period includes the estimated network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar), and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might -delay sending an acknowledgement. +delay sending an acknowledgement. When the PTO is armed for Initial or +Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0. I add a citation to QUIC-TRANSPORT for this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3066#discussion_r341825030 ----==_mimepart_5dbde7b1e1deb_20403fb0f20cd9641046850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -461,21 +464,34 @@ The PTO period is the amount of time that a sender ought to wait for an
 acknowledgement of a sent packet.  This time period includes the estimated
 network roundtrip-time (smoothed_rtt), the variance in the estimate (4*rttvar),
 and max_ack_delay, to account for the maximum time by which a receiver might
-delay sending an acknowledgement.
+delay sending an acknowledgement.  When the PTO is armed for Initial or
+Handshake packet number spaces, the max_ack_delay is 0.

I add a citation to QUIC-TRANSPORT for this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT

"In response to" sounds like it's from the peer, which I find more confusing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  When probe packets from two different packet number spaces are sent
+when the PTO fires and both spaces have in-flight packets, this simplifies to
+setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number space.

Agreed, I tried to reword it.

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This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe -congestion. The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is -limited by the endpoint's idle timeout. +congestion. Even when there are ack-eliciting packets in-flight in multiple +packet number spaces, the exponential increase in probe timeout occurs across +all spaces to prevent excess load on the network. For example, a timeout in +the Initial packet number space doubles the length of the timeout in the +Handshake packet number space. There's only one timer still. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3066#discussion_r341825301 ----==_mimepart_5dbde9b7c52c6_674c3fe8474cd960592115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When a PTO timer expires, the PTO period MUST be set to twice its current
 value. This exponential reduction in the sender's rate is important because
 the PTOs might be caused by loss of packets or acknowledgements due to severe
-congestion.  The life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs is
-limited by the endpoint's idle timeout.
+congestion.  Even when there are ack-eliciting packets in-flight in multiple
+packet number spaces, the exponential increase in probe timeout occurs across
+all spaces to prevent excess load on the network.  For example, a timeout in
+the Initial packet number space doubles the length of the timeout in the
+Handshake packet number space.

There's only one timer still.

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----==_mimepart_5dbdeb9daff68_5f3e3f8a820cd96475972b-- From nobody Sat Nov 2 13:50:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C704120024 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gb65EvESpkpl for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DD8B12001E for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 13:50:41 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572727841; bh=W9a0HA2vkM6RFvq7ZOW8nCwQ/KgPyaTqBN77uDIuNRY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=drCsdxPOzBrZmICQuAMvjZ10EzpFc+aH/KE7Y7OTdE0NA4YxBaSKMjC6ID8bkUcAC MxUtNz8qyaGaLdKUC8vGqx/UuzbX7UTxRMM9Eyr1POeqUTQuFi+Pq5ypMWT5x3PO8Y GrXyqYqZfd863OFhG8igABX09CQ7zxaAC4u3eOto= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Idle timeout indicates you will timeout (#3099) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbdec2187b6b_3ce33fdae8ecd96899999e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 20:50:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbdec2187b6b_3ce33fdae8ecd96899999e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is The text from here down is pre-existing, so I'd prefer not to change it as part of this PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3099#discussion_r341825531 ----==_mimepart_5dbdec2187b6b_3ce33fdae8ecd96899999e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by an
-endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that
-endpoint.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout
-period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
-draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within a
-Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
-that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will
-know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is

The text from here down is pre-existing, so I'd prefer not to change it as part of this PR.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
-draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within a
-Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
-that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will
-know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is
+received and processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending
+a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet;
+see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been
+sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending packets ensures

Also pre-existing text, so maybe in a different PR?

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within a
-Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
-that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will
-know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max idle timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max idle timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is
+received and processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending
+a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet;
+see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been
+sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending packets ensures
+that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity.

Also pre-existing.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is
+received and processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending
+a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet;
+see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been
+sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending packets ensures
+that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity.
+
+An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period
+risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state
+before the packets arrive.  If a peer could time out within an Probe Timeout

Agreed, I'll file an issue to address your and Mike's comments.

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In #3099 I received a number of comments on the existing text from @MikeBishop and @janaiyengar . This is an issue to track improving that text in a separate PR.

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@MikeBishop and @janaiyengar I filed a new issue(#3184) for your comments on the existing idle timeout text. I hope all of those comments can be addressed in an editorial PR.

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----==_mimepart_5dbe07ef597cb_6c6e3f98454cd96c120385c-- From nobody Sat Nov 2 16:09:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FFE120071 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HDrFFqfiiE3r for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5551120020 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2019 16:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 16:09:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572736146; bh=yvOy4vbIrP6Ml0yTfgVzmXiHltSBmcFzIglH6+pI+0k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=m7mlmz/sWrco75sLymiU3M4k/bHyqm12Ltbq+Ki9rBHr0ti0NQkhkaMi73qD4WvzS mNhYaOu4/zjvmv44u6SUUwuxfwhMKRS5Ima3KpD01RXHlGcUOuR79ObgRxVuEXOzOi 1u4dCaJJRSdKObos5npXJ6MGsCo0zIUqc2M5PPlA= From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 35c7a5: Initial secrets change after Retry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:09:11 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-symmetric-timeout=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: 35c7a5982639ba2e965e0c62faa608b68797cac8=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/35c7a5982639ba2e965e0c= 62faa608b68797cac8=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-07-03 (Wed, 03 Jul 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Initial secrets change after Retry=0D =0D This was implied, but not explicit previously.=0D =0D Closes #2823.=0D =0D =0D Commit: b71c607b6e43bf5ae79b5859b1aabc6c936ad0bd=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b71c607b6e43bf5ae79b58= 59b1aabc6c936ad0bd=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-07-04 (Thu, 04 Jul 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D First Initial is misleading=0D =0D =0D Commit: 78520c873f5ea45399d683e32f8437c87c79736a=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/78520c873f5ea45399d683= e32f8437c87c79736a=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-08-08 (Thu, 08 Aug 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Un- plural=0D =0D Co-Authored-By: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: 7af6d612244fb2056eea105620eba01d7ed9dc73=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7af6d612244fb2056eea10= 5620eba01d7ed9dc73=0D Author: David Schinazi =0D Date: 2019-09-17 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Allow ClientHello to span multiple QUIC packets=0D =0D =0D Commit: 721d42f89c0f739dc8514363856328c9adcecc35=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/721d42f89c0f739dc85143= 63856328c9adcecc35=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2019-09-17 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Retransmitting an ACK frame warning=0D =0D It can result in an inflated RTT, as well as being a waste of bytes.=0D =0D Fixes #2748=0D =0D =0D Commit: 1d7abab6b77b9ea678143b12c0d308d89362cfa0=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1d7abab6b77b9ea678143b= 12c0d308d89362cfa0=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2019-09-17 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Jana's suggestion=0D =0D =0D Commit: f77bd1e5395bbac2bd1fe2ab575f1beac4c8bf32=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f77bd1e5395bbac2bd1fe2= ab575f1beac4c8bf32=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2019-09-19 (Thu, 19 Sep 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clients send datagrams with 1200 byte payloads=0D =0D I was a bit unsure. 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What is the motivation behind not sending a PTO for the application data packet number space until the handshake is completed? If I had to guess, we're trying to not put too much load onto the network (and thereby increase the chance that PTO packets containing Initial / Handshake data make it through) until we know that we're done with the handshake.
However, this only works for the server side. The client completes the handshake after sending its cert and the CFIN, but it doesn't know if those packets were actually received.

Maybe the signal we're actually looking for here is handshake confirmed, and not handshake completed?

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@marten-seemann The key is there's no point in arming the PTO for ApplicationData if you don't have keys to process the ACK frame if it was received. I tried to make that clear in the text, but suggestions are welcome.

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I see a lot of value in alternative "a or c" for CDNs. The purpose of the token is to prove to the server that the client owns the address. It should not matter why the client received the token (similar to TFO token).

As for the privacy, I do not see a problem. The gateway already sees everything and knows everything. If the backends cooperate, they already know everything. If they do not cooperate, this is no different than a multi-CDN case.

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Includes #3066, which I plan to merge Monday morning.

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I already have special case code to send a PING when there are bytes in flight but nothing to send, so this is very similar. I agree it's not necessary, but I find the simplification appealing, and when we first discussed this problem, no one suggested this solution, so I thought it was worth writing up. If we keep the existing text that the client has to keep sending, I'm not sure doing this on the server side is a valuable optimization, so I'd prefer to stick with one mechanism or the other. To me, the main negative is the server sending extra datagrams, as you said. And maybe that's enough to stick with what we have. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3161#issuecomment-549172711 ----==_mimepart_5dbf31ae5241c_4c413f8d3dccd96817815f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe this is simpler to implement assuming one is implementing both a client and server. I already have special case code to send a PING when there are bytes in flight but nothing to send, so this is very similar.

I agree it's not necessary, but I find the simplification appealing, and when we first discussed this problem, no one suggested this solution, so I thought it was worth writing up.

If we keep the existing text that the client has to keep sending, I'm not sure doing this on the server side is a valuable optimization, so I'd prefer to stick with one mechanism or the other.

To me, the main negative is the server sending extra datagrams, as you said. And maybe that's enough to stick with what we have.

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----==_mimepart_5dbf31ae5241c_4c413f8d3dccd96817815f1-- From nobody Sun Nov 3 15:32:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD29912083E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Csvqs4xTf7Db for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44D0B120026 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 15:31:57 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572823918; bh=/teHaBY2/HQD8URWXj09TAJVn6mScK7mtxFiYGJZgQU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=g+LSYiu1JacRghyHlWVkotKB5O+LCv/qlEghhMaQ4BKblOIsAlMFXDeuTmY4VVJRW NDViLrnZDM7/QWQ05QN2v+WibixGYnKRnfT0AYNlOGS4CJ4yjTSNVgj8W7MF6z5WSy 5s0YxJ+8nmFPDH1ZYgE8EOsrEk+gV8LxjuY0Oocg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rewrite key update section (#3050) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbf636dea3da_35393fa820ecd968654223"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 23:32:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbf636dea3da_35393fa820ecd968654223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material -without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the -change. An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and -decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit. +The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are used to protect the +packet. The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set of 1-RTT +packets and toggled to signal each subsequent key update. I don't follow this comment. Handshake confirmation requires ACK of a packet that was sent after handshake completion. I'll try to remove that dependency, but it is currently functionally identical. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3050#discussion_r341880148 ----==_mimepart_5dbf636dea3da_35393fa820ecd968654223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.
+The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are used to protect the
+packet.  The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set of 1-RTT
+packets and toggled to signal each subsequent key update.

I don't follow this comment. Handshake confirmation requires ACK of a packet that was sent after handshake completion. I'll try to remove that dependency, but it is currently functionally identical.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Nov 3 15:56:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24AC12004D for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:56:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LzQc7FV_BhHP for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E05512003E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:56:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 15:56:07 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572825367; bh=NBMV6fjXFVLrC8YGWJBAQLO8BVvoapWN5RHOibRWxyg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ttbwwJDfIRC4Jpk9rNNY02kjejfQPxurr4kz90OB2updxhbQFlVcB02PJdHUHL1cD 07phGBy1aEKwcnP7Xfkmnt22eXnDHz6Qy3mmWi3qpicisMhjZPewGGcs1bbkrUY0L7 YQI3U7xa7nM0TmZa+/bt5SuNyhJvyzuL+Obvlwg4= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change idle_timeout to max_idle_timeout (#3099) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbf691726fde_227a3ffc766cd95c5646a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 23:56:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbf691726fde_227a3ffc766cd95c5646a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. > current Probe Timeout (PTO). -Each endpoint advertises its own idle timeout to its peer. An endpoint -restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is received and -processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending an +Each endpoint advertises a max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +at an endpoint is computed as the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, an endpoint commits to initiating an immediate close > a max_idle_timeout, an endpoint declares that after being idle for longer than the advertised time it will not send any packets and it could generate a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) in reaction to any received packet. An endpoint commits to initiating an immediate close [...] > - -The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric. The value advertised by an -endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that -endpoint. An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout -period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the -draining state before the packets arrive. If a peer could timeout within a -Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to -test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely. Note -that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is I don't think that we need new names. New names are best when you need to refer to them in many places, but idle timeout logic is all constrained to this one section. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3099#pullrequestreview-310849894 ----==_mimepart_5dbf691726fde_227a3ffc766cd95c5646a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  current Probe Timeout (PTO).
 
-Each endpoint advertises its own idle timeout to its peer.  An endpoint
-restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is received and
-processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending an
+Each endpoint advertises a max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+at an endpoint is computed as the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, an endpoint commits to initiating an immediate close

a max_idle_timeout, an endpoint declares that after being idle for longer than the advertised time it will not send any packets and it could generate a stateless reset ({{stateless-reset}}) in reaction to any received packet. An endpoint commits to initiating an immediate close [...]

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by an
-endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that
-endpoint.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout
-period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
-draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within a
-Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
-that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will
-know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is

I don't think that we need new names. New names are best when you need to refer to them in many places, but idle timeout logic is all constrained to this one section.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

I found some of the wording to be awkward. I'm not sure that my formulation is better, but you can integrate as you like.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

Maybe instead:

The server could discard such a packet, but this could result in the client continuing to send the invalid Initial packet until it is eventually forced to abandon the connection attempt. A server that requires address validation SHOULD immediately close ({{imm...}}) the connection with an INVALID_TOKEN error to allow the client to detect the error sooner. Note that a server has not established any state for the connection at this point and so does not enter the closing period. Alternatively, a server MAY proceed with the connection without verifying the token, though the server MUST NOT consider the client address to be valid.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
-The KEY_PHASE bit allows a recipient to detect a change in keying material
-without necessarily needing to receive the first packet that triggered the
-change.  An endpoint that notices a changed KEY_PHASE bit can update keys and
-decrypt the packet that contains the changed bit.
+The Key Phase bit indicates which packet protection keys are used to protect the
+packet.  The Key Phase bit is initially set to 0 for the first set of 1-RTT
+packets and toggled to signal each subsequent key update.

Yeah that's true, but it's like filling a land mine that would explode once we change the definition of handshake complete.

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Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:58:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572832713; bh=/HxW6jKjUnjTdMfmXjMwkI7/bnAFpUns99sUZhUZ32U=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=MQOa3PIMgKUWdxp7Vpd1noeZSpCIZJKJG46o8VSCzHAos0XswkRTpH5x20zobZmoE YxOupeLZGeeZhEkqwvbMWJCpSfeqbyNeweIHTT4AOHw7nvLzAD6XBYTuunwt5iK/HG WAMLMuD4A9PKK5sE0dkYMISh4dooHigcYwxxZHRQ= Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:58:33 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 85db1f: Rewrite key update section Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 01:58:38 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 85db1f71811872bc01e4ac3692e545620258b82e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/85db1f71811872bc01e4ac3692e545620258b82e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-09-19 (Thu, 19 Sep 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrite key update section This makes some significant editorial changes to the key update section, hopefully making the various activities clearer and more explicit. In the process, I am also trying to address #2792, which is the timing sidechannel created by having the generation of updated keys inline with packet processing. In doing so, I'm suggesting that endpoints create the next keys at some time after the key update happens. Right now, I'm thinking 1-2 PTOs is probably close enough to workable. I've limited this at 3PTO. This is, however, just a (firm) suggestion at this stage. For endpoints that only want to keep 2 sets of keys, this is probably the right time frame, especially if we keep the current advice for 3PTO before a subsequent update. The effect of this is that attempts to update at certain times could cause all packets after the update to be discarded. That would only happen if implementations consistently ignored advice on update frequency, so I think that's tolerable, but I'd like input on this. (This also attempts to take up the advice from the other, older PRs on this subject.) Closes #2792, #2791, #2237. Commit: 678c0486f91012173e827b1d708429b153bc3037 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/678c0486f91012173e827b1d708429b153bc3037 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-09-19 (Thu, 19 Sep 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Kazuho is a great help here Commit: 1b4d136a4ac9593b8211d378789ed2d08e16ea6e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1b4d136a4ac9593b8211d378789ed2d08e16ea6e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-09-20 (Fri, 20 Sep 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Attempt to improve readability in a few places. Also, record that this closes #3054. Commit: b35a5e4870cac65f2d7b0d37b21a837a7142a472 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b35a5e4870cac65f2d7b0d37b21a837a7142a472 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-10-11 (Fri, 11 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's review comments Commit: c131d08809b85bc2cdf56c67eab62741414571f2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c131d08809b85bc2cdf56c67eab62741414571f2 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-10-11 (Fri, 11 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Restore implementation advice Commit: c764362e3e50f0647b930648de5b645e4cc65ad4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c764362e3e50f0647b930648de5b645e4cc65ad4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Move some text around Commit: b1d56947b2cf5542481ec65fa7dfb7e4d434fcf9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b1d56947b2cf5542481ec65fa7dfb7e4d434fcf9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- janaiyengar's suggestions Commit: bf1394db3c610de54286bbf7aafdb235599ba46f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bf1394db3c610de54286bbf7aafdb235599ba46f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-04 (Mon, 04 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Some small adjustments Commit: 289e57d5ed1f37e2f3ef1c36dc427c782b418576 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/289e57d5ed1f37e2f3ef1c36dc427c782b418576 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-04 (Mon, 04 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md A ietf.json Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into rework-key-update-2 Commit: a7b0addaa2cb1a0fab865adb8f1d2437dca302d9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7b0addaa2cb1a0fab865adb8f1d2437dca302d9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-04 (Mon, 04 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Split first from subsequent again Commit: cd91b144a45472b77039c158c2dc7f7b226e497f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cd91b144a45472b77039c158c2dc7f7b226e497f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-03 (Sun, 03 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3050 from quicwg/rework-key-update-2 Rewrite key update section Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/3b22f6646dde...cd91b144a454 From nobody Sun Nov 3 17:58:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00A512089A for ; 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----==_mimepart_5dbf85d1ebdbf_317f3fcc310cd9643324cc-- From nobody Sun Nov 3 17:59:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DADF12001E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s501EPiVwJtC for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45EAB12086B for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC1A0357 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:58:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572832732; bh=cjZ4stAiKPTISH3s/eheiIX/it8Kpe8wfmf9VF0dc8I=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=DjdEM93h0LJQmZRoKuhMX9ColhSiUmWBP0cSzM4gd+SqjcbSYxU+XqDNGLbyuSm4V BCYov+/Zg7MvzhtXX2fLZE+7GzNewIBBF+XvXPVNNzyJ5SZBAWDaB7vsVqfu4Yrwhq fsjccEDEPlNvYFhmCI2d0LfYpF6NAYUfa1sS6H6g= Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:58:52 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 89f30a: Recovery changelog for -24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 01:58:56 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 89f30aae27fc5ce841165ef6c540323369fcd930 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89f30aae27fc5ce841165ef6c540323369fcd930 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-03 (Sun, 03 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Recovery changelog for -24 Includes #3066, which I plan to merge Monday morning. 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Re-reading the text, I think this makes sense now. I noted that this also prevents the client from PTO-ing on 0-RTT packets, which is nice. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3066#issuecomment-549207457 ----==_mimepart_5dbf8be6e260f_74ca3f98f62cd96c7667ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett Thanks for the explanation. Re-reading the text, I think this makes sense now. I noted that this also prevents the client from PTO-ing on 0-RTT packets, which is nice.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

I'm not sure if I understand this sentence. Consider the server that has just sent ServerHello and it's certificate, i.e. has outstanding Initial and Handshake data.
Isn't the whole point of this PR to arm the PTO timer based on both packet number spaces?

This is what I'd imagine would happen if no ACKs from the client are received:
t = 0: send Initial, immediately afterwards send Handshake. Set PTO timer for the Initial.
t = 1: PTO timer expires for the Initial packet. Send an Initial probe packet. Now the Handshake packet sent at t = 0 is the earliest outstanding packet, so set a PTO timer (with exponential backoff) for this packet.
t = 2: PTO timer expires for the Handshake packet. Send a Handshake probe packet. Now the Initial probe packet sent at t=1 is the earliest outstanding packet. The PTO timer for this packet would expire at t=5.

Is this correct?

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@martinthomson, @kazuho: I added text for CRYPTO, MAX_STREAMS and STREAMS_BLOCKED frames, however:

  • for CRYPTO frames, there's no flow control. It would be awkward to use a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR here, so I opted for just using a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR,
  • for MAX_STREAMS frames FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR is the only applicable error. We do have a STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR, but this error is described as "Too many streams opened", and MAX_STREAMS doesn't open any streams by itself.

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----==_mimepart_5dbf9d689f920_ebc3fb0270cd96c1372a3-- From nobody Sun Nov 3 19:39:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52E3120121 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9tDirFWwuHcV for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B3B6120129 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2239660509 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572838760; bh=hCm7MRkpepFJgUfT8BNvhH/rdd30BkCJwG4gK/AGYnE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oja2ZX/laQjfAwIMY6S75AfdAjsqGFvivTPIS9ezRYot39GajekkgKcVZ/9bZQyFZ 0w4Zyh15VtQ4Qc3maJ/+WcvQrrYpFpAmGRAQVUR3ncrYGPjrMdqBTrAf2GZOvGri9D hRIdRVm0PYBGoM73XHjnNAvKgM77yQI3r77P2lzk= Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 19:39:20 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use the FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR for errors in frame encoding (#3042) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbf9d68a3673_18a83f8cb74cd9609595c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 03:39:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbf9d68a3673_18a83f8cb74cd9609595c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3042 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3042#event-2766494455 ----==_mimepart_5dbf9d68a3673_18a83f8cb74cd9609595c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Merged #3042 into master.

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Those seem like reasonable conclusions to me. I'm happy taking this. Now I just need to ensure that the changelog is updated.

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@kazuho There's no flow control in the sense that you don't advertise a window and you don't update any window.

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for CRYPTO frames, there's no flow control. It would be awkward to use a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR here, so I opted for just using a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR,

I'm not sure if I follow the logic here.

If there is no flow control, then I'd presume that exceeding 262 bytes is totally fine, and therefore that that the receiver should not be required (i.e. MUST) to send an error.

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----==_mimepart_5dbfaa0d78431_ff83f7f166cd96c935420-- From nobody Sun Nov 3 20:43:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0AD1200C7 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:43:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZO9iuN8G7pxy for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B9CB120046 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:43:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 20:43:17 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572842597; bh=t338tIuYrLqFiba9mp53W2BLsUClEXfhZldqcC35AFw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P6gX5SpQbx07zal7kWebX1DjUSizv28KR3lbKsUCutreZywDTNSV7kcm2zhWvi9r6 UVSstpO5oGOmvt6lF1z0bxGAajRuxW508U1nO+sxaMX8Nf5I667QPmB5iTNCe6WYpj 4bAeoPyzjEqC7aPWr92Cd+/WIbKNzKpJ3a0nkWZw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The method of identifying "the same server" (#3155) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbfac6586dcf_35d33fb0f20cd96486887f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 04:43:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbfac6586dcf_35d33fb0f20cd96486887f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord > As for the privacy, I do not see a problem. The gateway already sees everything and knows everything. Only when the gateway is encrypting / decrypting the traffic. Counterexample is QUIC-LB, where the gateway just forwards the packets to different backend servers. > If they do not cooperate, this is no different than a multi-CDN case. (c) is exactly the same as what we state for TLS session tickets in RFC 1.3, which covers the multi-CDN case. If we want to be more lax, I think we need to present that there is no privacy concerns in doing so. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3155#issuecomment-549223382 ----==_mimepart_5dbfac6586dcf_35d33fb0f20cd96486887f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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As for the privacy, I do not see a problem. The gateway already sees everything and knows everything.

Only when the gateway is encrypting / decrypting the traffic. Counterexample is QUIC-LB, where the gateway just forwards the packets to different backend servers.

If they do not cooperate, this is no different than a multi-CDN case.

(c) is exactly the same as what we state for TLS session tickets in RFC 1.3, which covers the multi-CDN case. If we want to be more lax, I think we need to present that there is no privacy concerns in doing so.

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@marten-seemann Are you suggesting that the CRYPTO stream has implicit limit of 262 bytes that can be transferred? I think my question is how you would justify it. My claim is that it's an unnecessary complexity.

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@kazuho That's what's written in the spec. I was not happy with our decision from Tokio to not communicate a limit for the data that can be sent on a CRYPTO stream, and have peers just drop any frames sent on that stream in the future instead. But that's what the working group decided to do.

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@marten-seemann I think you are conflating two different issues. #2524 is an issue about the amount of data buffered, while this issue is about the maximum offset of data an endpoint can ultimately represent.

Let me explain why "MUST respond with a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR" for a CRYPTO stream is a problem.

The reason we have allowed the use of FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR for STREAM frames is because that is an error that can be caught by the stream-level receive buffer (and it's logic), rather than the frame decoder.

Stating that the error code MUST be FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR in this particular case goes against that agreement.

That logic that we used for STREAM frames can be equally applied to CRYPTO streams. The error code can either be CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED or FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR. I don't mind either. But requiring FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR is different, because it could require the stream-level logic to respond either with a stream-level error code (CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED or FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR) and frame-level error code (FRAME_DECODING_ERROR) based on the input. As can be seen, this requirement to distinguish between the two cases is the same as the one we argue for the STREAM frame case.

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@kazuho You're right. I missed that we have a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error. I'll prepare a follow-up PR later today. Unfortunately, it looks like it won't make it into -24 any more though.

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----==_mimepart_5dbfb18ca4777_775f3fa276ecd96853598d-- From nobody Sun Nov 3 21:12:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A911A1200CD for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZgSS3FYOFMgu for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F8BC120096 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:12:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 21:12:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572844351; bh=ugNdMjVupAlUSfSQuPlDdemSCWx3d1jWFwZlqe17TZU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TtFhDB4enzCHHkMzeZJ2iV6bz008FUnC2TenfNbgYDF07vpsHcZe12ZR77Z50hmnj /sejgvUbg0xIfKnGZ/I2Xj3ZJZLTO/CfXKTNLpupA0YumpDE50d1xvFbXQOO9arJPS X3JI4pWW6RlYXWGb6cRoewsO5+BqjIxg0VxC3LhQ= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame (#3186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dbfb33f1c68d_5bde3fb9904cd96459938c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 05:12:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dbfb33f1c68d_5bde3fb9904cd96459938c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As @kazuho pointed out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3042#issuecomment-549225351, I missed that there's a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED that would equally valid to send when a CRYPTO frame exceeds the 2^62-1 limit. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186 -- Commit Summary -- * allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186 ----==_mimepart_5dbfb33f1c68d_5bde3fb9904cd96459938c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As @kazuho pointed out in #3042 (comment), I missed that there's a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED that would equally valid to send when a CRYPTO frame exceeds the 2^62-1 limit.

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  • allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2096,7 +2096,7 @@ more likely to indicate an intentional migration rather than an attack.
 ## Loss Detection and Congestion Control {#migration-cc}
 
 The capacity available on the new path might not be the same as the old path.
-Packets sent on the old path SHOULD NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT
+Packets sent on the old path MUST NOT contribute to congestion control or RTT
 estimation for the new path.

I'd tend to agree with Ian that it's probably not necessary to add text covering that -- you're doing the safest thing if you treat them as completely independent, and you're likely to have new data from the new path just from validation or within a few RTTs.

(That said, I'd be quite interested in the results of experiments in this area, and there's no enforcement here that prevents such experimentation.)

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Thanks @mirjak! There's a section, migration-linkability, that discusses linkability and sets out the requirements there. I wasn't originally thinking that we wanted to duplicate that in security considerations, but it could be really good to write up some of the guarantees that we think are/n't provided there (probably in a separate issue, though).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2343,28 +2343,30 @@ source address.
 
 ## Idle Timeout {#idle-timeout}
 
-If the idle timeout is enabled, a connection is silently closed and the state is
-discarded when it remains idle for longer than both the advertised
-idle timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and three times the
+If the idle timeout is enabled by either peer, a connection is silently closed
+and its state is discarded when it remains idle for longer than the
+max_idle_timeout (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and three times the

This sentence seems to contradict the next paragraph: The connection is closed when it remains idle for longer than the minimum of the max_idle_timeouts.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-: The idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer; see
-  ({{idle-timeout}}).  If this parameter is absent or zero then the idle
-  timeout is disabled.
+: The max idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer;
+  see ({{idle-timeout}}).  Idle timeout is disabled when both endpoints omit this
+  transport parameteter or specify a value of 0.

In its current wording, this would mean that if one of the endpoints omits the parameter or sets it to 0, the resulting idle timeout would be 0 (since we're taking the minimum of both values).

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@kazuho If gateway does not have the keys, it has no more info than a multi-CDN case. In fact, it has less info -- it cannot tell when the new connection is for the same or different hostname than the one that issued the token.

I am interested in anyone presenting a material reduction in privacy in case (a) that is absent in a multi-CDN case with case (c). (I am not aware of a way to prove lack of privacy concerns other than making an attempt to find some and falling to do so).

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@igorlord How about #3155 (comment)?

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@kazuho I did see this but am confused where the risk is. If a party can see all traffic going to a specific IP, is the concern that it is giving them some extra information when there are multiple clients behind a NAT?

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@igorlord No.

The concern is on the server-side, where three parties are involved: a) owner of LB (that only sees unencrypted traffic), b) owner of one server behing a, c) owner of another backend server behind a, who can also monitor the traffic between clients and a.

The attack goes like this:

  1. c accepts a connection from a legitimate client (through a), and issues a NEW_TOKEN token
  2. The client reconnects to b (through a), using the the token obtained in step 1. At this point, c can tell that who connected to b.

Going back to our design principle; we require NEW_TOKEN tokens (and also TLS session tickets) to be sent using an encrypted channel, and to be used only once, because the fact that the client is connecting to a particular server should not be exposed to a third party. In this example, we are violating that requirement.

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@kazuho So why is the answer to my question of whether the scheme above gives out extra information only in case of multiple users behind a NAT: no?

If there is only a single user behind an IP, a party that can observe all traffic to load balancer "a" can know who is connecting to "c" and "b" just by matching on the src ip and seeing that they are the same.

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----==_mimepart_5dc0275dea4e6_38463fcae40cd96c2682de-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 05:55:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1581200E7 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 05:55:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j3YWAlDE65kF for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 05:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B7A7120099 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 05:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137E66E15B3 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 05:55:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572875724; bh=A6MFBNdqMuIzcSD2Q6FlDbl+F3ADf0rC++La8u41EDo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cHAfVEjbpJDM/kiuLJp9g+/HOIr/nSvjuvI9qPktv9+DdV98LvmoglRjNfVzaioCK qATUTmtzN9JoOzq3O9fh+G3rEfSleHRUFNzVO5AYQsk+N0stGuIv4x6zB/Lg4L/Ct3 oSrBuff81xN4lPbMuY78XP+oype7qatRGT9SpLA0= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 05:55:24 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The method of identifying "the same server" (#3155) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc02dcc4f82_e1d3fcb770cd9603830b7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:55:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc02dcc4f82_e1d3fcb770cd9603830b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord > If there is only a single user behind an IP, a party that can observe all traffic to load balancer "a" can know who is connecting to "c" and "b" just by matching on the src ip and seeing that they are the same. I think the hidden assumption in your argument is that the client is connecting to "b" and "c" at the same time. When that assumption is met, I think you are correct that the attack is only viable when the client is behind a NAT. But it could also be the case that the client first connects to "c", disconnects, then connect to "b" using the token obtained from "c" from a different address. In that case, the attack becomes concerning even when the client is not behind a NAT. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3155#issuecomment-549363852 ----==_mimepart_5dc02dcc4f82_e1d3fcb770cd9603830b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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If there is only a single user behind an IP, a party that can observe all traffic to load balancer "a" can know who is connecting to "c" and "b" just by matching on the src ip and seeing that they are the same.

I think the hidden assumption in your argument is that the client is connecting to "b" and "c" at the same time. When that assumption is met, I think you are correct that the attack is only viable when the client is behind a NAT.

But it could also be the case that the client first connects to "c", disconnects, then connect to "b" using the token obtained from "c" from a different address. In that case, the attack becomes concerning even when the client is not behind a NAT.

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Apparently I should have submitted #3066 last night...

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But it could also be the case that the client first connects to "c", disconnects, then connect to "b" using the token obtained from "c" from a different address. In that case, the attack becomes concerning even when the client is not behind a NAT.

This is an address validation token. It is coded for a particular client address. The client will not use the token if it has migrated to a different address.

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While working on the proof of correctness of packet decoding, my intern discovered an error in the reference code of Appendix A. More precisely, we tried to prove the following lemma:

let bound_npn (pn_len:nat2) = pow2 (8 * (pn_len+1))

let in_window (pn_len:nat2) (last pn:nat) =
  let h = bound_npn pn_len in
  (last+1 < h/2 /\ pn < h) \/
  (last+1 >= pow2 62 - h/2 /\ pn >= pow2 62 - h) \/
  (last+1 - h/2 < pn /\ pn <= last+1 + h/2)

val reduce_pn:
  pn_len:nat2 ->
  pn:nat62 ->
  npn:nat{npn < bound_npn pn_len}

val expand_pn :
  pn_len:nat2 ->
  last:nat{last+1 < pow2 62} ->
  npn:nat{npn < bound_npn pn_len} ->
  pn:nat62{in_window pn_len last pn /\ pn % bound_npn pn_len = npn}

val lemma_pn_correct : pn_len:nat2 -> last:nat{last+1 < pow2 62} -> pn:nat62 -> Lemma
  (requires in_window pn_len last pn)
  (ensures expand_pn pn_len last (reduce_pn pn_len pn) = pn)

However, the proof fails because in the first case candidate_pn <= expected_pn - pn_hwin, the returned value candidate_pn + pn_win can overflow:

      candidate_pn = (expected_pn & ~pn_mask) | truncated_pn
      if candidate_pn <= expected_pn - pn_hwin:
         return candidate_pn + pn_win
      // Note the extra check for underflow when candidate_pn
      // is near zero.
      if candidate_pn > expected_pn + pn_hwin and
         candidate_pn > pn_win:
         return candidate_pn - pn_win
      return candidate_pn

Instead, the first condition should be if candidate_pn <= expected_pn - pn_hwin and candidate_pn + pn_win < 2^62. Using this condition we are able to prove the lemma above (the proof is at https://github.com/project-everest/everquic-crypto/blob/master/src/QUIC.Spec.fst#L2685). It may also be a good idea to better document the in_window condition, as it can help with the choice of the pn_len parameter.

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----==_mimepart_5dc055e6b0805_2fb93f8e500cd9607441c-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 08:55:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596FF120100 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:55:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v1o7-YNYOh7Q for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 972E51200FE for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB8C960230 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:54:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572886498; bh=4ObT+mSyb+/dOCiMdsFih+1Q0jELcoTKr3zmXfVKah8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vcz8EP73+UMWsHTJti6FZuXgfyrB3AollNPYMYJBpPU9QE8fgQcuCbDqrOX89QHZ9 zPwZ7prUv6VU9VgDPRD5B5sCst0xndaJaDIvP+RObq3ggbcSH2fTfmBNgzhi1ezSoE 3bBqdKg9aQWjXFJoHGBloKteU+MQgYLQQP8kFrVU= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 08:54:58 -0800 From: Antoine Delignat-Lavaud Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Overflow in appendix A packet number decoding sample (#3187) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc057e2b1916_6cc43fee1d8cd96c14006e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ad-l X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 16:55:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc057e2b1916_6cc43fee1d8cd96c14006e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, there is another mistake in the underflow case, the condition `candidate_pn > expected_pn + pn_hwin and candidate_pn > pn_win` should be `candidate_pn > expected_pn + pn_hwin and candidate_pn >= pn_win`, as we may want to decode an underflow to 0. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3187#issuecomment-549446610 ----==_mimepart_5dc057e2b1916_6cc43fee1d8cd96c14006e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Actually, there is another mistake in the underflow case, the condition candidate_pn > expected_pn + pn_hwin and candidate_pn > pn_win should be candidate_pn > expected_pn + pn_hwin and candidate_pn >= pn_win, as we may want to decode an underflow to 0.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

The Handshake PTO would expire at t=3, because of the backoff, which may have been what you meant.

The second Initial PTO would expire at t=5, as you said.

One note is that the text does recommend you send a packet in other packet number spaces when possible
"In addition to sending data in the packet number space for which the timer
expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet
number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible."

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It allows them to locate segments with an abnormal contribution= to=0D latency by dichotomy, since observing the Spin Bit at a given middle poin= t=0D allows to compute separately the contribution to RTT of both sides.=0D =0D This is good, but in many cases, latency is not the crucial element; pack= et loss=0D is the real killer. The reason for this lies on the foreseeability of the= fault=0D location:=0D =0D 1. The location of significant latency buildup is most often known in adv= ance: it is the last segment of the access network (capacity bottleneck w= ith a large per-user buffer)=0D 2. Packet loss, by contrast, happens in all segments of the end-to-end pa= th, with low correlation with latency (high-speed interfaces of core rout= ers with limited RAM and large amounts of cross-traffic). =0D =0D For a network operator, the key feature is thus the ability to do dichoto= my on=0D packet loss. One might imagine that it is doable by simultaneous packet c= aptures=0D on both ends of a suspected segment; this simply doesn't help further=0D investigations on other segments, since one doesn't know in which directi= on to=0D proceed (upstream or downstream). Dichotomy is impossible.=0D =0D In this context, it is very frustrating to anybody in network operations = to see=0D QUIC v1 ship with the less important of on-path measurements, the Spin Bi= t, and=0D without an effective way to identity and locate loss. This means several = years=0D of near blindness on network issues and degraded network QoS for QUIC. Ev= erybody=0D (including content providers and customers) will directly or indirectly s= uffer=0D from this.=0D =0D Early in the discussions around the Spin Bit, two "reserved" bits have be= en=0D secured "for experimentation" in the first byte of short headers. These b= its are=0D currently unused. We propose to use them for on-path exposure of packet l= oss in=0D =0D https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ferrieuxhamchaoui-quic-lossbits/=0D= =0D Note the efficiency of the method ("QL bits") has been verified in the fi= eld=0D through a full-size experiment in 4 countries conducted by Orange and Aka= mai, as=0D described at IETF105 in TSVWG and MAPRG=0D =0D https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-tsvwg-sessb= -32-loss-signaling-for-encrypted-protocols-03=0D =0D https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-maprg-packe= t-loss-signaling-for-encrypted-protocols-01=0D =0D The purpose of the current Issue is to raise awareness of the upcoming=0D= difficulty to debug networks in the current state of the specification, a= nd to=0D request the inclusion of the QL bits in the transport draft, with the sam= e=0D status as the Spin Bit =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cexperimental=E2=80=9D in v1 and= with anti-ossification=0D requirement to only activate the QL bits on no more than 80% of connectio= ns. We=0D are hereby suggesting the constitution of a design team to conduct the sa= me=0D analysis of privacy and ossification impacts as was done for the Spin Bit= .=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189= ----==_mimepart_5dc06f1c599f4_56cf3fbd66ecd96c15368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

QUIC exposes the Spin Bit to the path in order to help operators debug= their
=0D networks. It allows them to locate segments with an abnormal contribution= to
=0D latency by dichotomy, since observing the Spin Bit at a given middle poin= t
=0D allows to compute separately the contribution to RTT of both sides.

=0D=

This is good, but in many cases, latency is not the crucial element; p= acket loss
=0D is the real killer. The reason for this lies on the foreseeability of the= fault
=0D location:

=0D
    =0D
  1. The location of significant latency buildup is most often known in ad= vance: it is the last segment of the access network (capacity bottleneck = with a large per-user buffer)
    2. =0D
  2. Packet loss, by contrast, happens in all segments of the end-to-end p= ath, with low correlation with latency (high-speed interfaces of core rou= ters with limited RAM and large amounts of cross-traffic).
    3. =0D
=0D

For a network operator, the key feature is thus the ability to do dich= otomy on
=0D packet loss. One might imagine that it is doable by simultaneous packet c= aptures
=0D on both ends of a suspected segment; this simply doesn't help further
= =0D investigations on other segments, since one doesn't know in which directi= on to
=0D proceed (upstream or downstream). Dichotomy is impossible.

=0D

In this context, it is very frustrating to anybody in network operatio= ns to see
=0D QUIC v1 ship with the less important of on-path measurements, the Spin Bi= t, and
=0D without an effective way to identity and locate loss. This means several = years
=0D of near blindness on network issues and degraded network QoS for QUIC. Ev= erybody
=0D (including content providers and customers) will directly or indirectly s= uffer
=0D from this.

=0D

Early in the discussions around the Spin Bit, two "reserved" bits have= been
=0D secured "for experimentation" in the first byte of short headers. These b= its are
=0D currently unused. We propose to use them for on-path exposure of packet l= oss in

=0D

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fer= rieuxhamchaoui-quic-lossbits/

=0D

Note the efficiency of the method ("QL bits") has been verified in the= field
=0D through a full-size experiment in 4 countries conducted by Orange and Aka= mai, as
=0D described at IETF105 in TSVWG and MAPRG

=0D

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-tsvwg-= sessb-32-loss-signaling-for-encrypted-protocols-03

=0D

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-maprg-pa= cket-loss-signaling-for-encrypted-protocols-01

=0D

The purpose of the current Issue is to raise awareness of the upcoming=
=0D difficulty to debug networks in the current state of the specification, a= nd to
=0D request the inclusion of the QL bits in the transport draft, with the sam= e
=0D status as the Spin Bit =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cexperimental=E2=80=9D in v1 and= with anti-ossification
=0D requirement to only activate the QL bits on no more than 80% of connectio= ns. We
=0D are hereby suggesting the constitution of a design team to conduct the sa= me
=0D analysis of privacy and ossification impacts as was done for the Spin Bit= .

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5dc06f1c599f4_56cf3fbd66ecd96c15368-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 11:06:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A7D120112 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:06:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tYDmd_OcyblQ for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F49B120047 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:06:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:06:29 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572894389; bh=xzZqifDtv0txsEBCvPzcPgIMxsph1CAa1vK4uPWX2Kw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qpDenVm5kaFQa9Urk3JTayjsENoFh1KAO3u+QlBeSjFrDBYmWdeIq7kBrZ7JHnkB1 k4FbgcGyFTgTVQ05bbL+F8nwALG/tc7EeLl3eocjyGCxgKXyY5TDyk6vbJFTYoQ8gR 6Ys6qQR4gjwp85ZCUPDwvlbpWs8AlegQ7h2aR5CU= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc076b5bacb0_8db3f8e7c6cd9603901b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:06:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc076b5bacb0_8db3f8e7c6cd9603901b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I certainly support this. The amount of changes required from existing implementation is probably 1 line (allow bits to be what they may). The only real work that this Issue proposes is a design team to assess privacy & ossification concerns. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189#issuecomment-549500906 ----==_mimepart_5dc076b5bacb0_8db3f8e7c6cd9603901b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I certainly support this. The amount of changes required from existing implementation is probably 1 line (allow bits to be what they may). The only real work that this Issue proposes is a design team to assess privacy & ossification concerns.

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We have experimented the proposed solution. It helped us identify losses occuring before a satellite gateway. Operating a network involves dealing with different equipment providers proposing specific management API and with 'old' equipment with specific management API. This solution is a real helper when it comes to identify the faulty segment in a network composed of various equipment.

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@ianswett: I am working on the PR for pseudocode changes.

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----==_mimepart_5dc094c3292c8_41073f99cd4cd9603100ce-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 13:45:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AE120885 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:45:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ftdRn9ghDfWR for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0172F120949 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDBF6619D1 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:45:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572903907; bh=injZ0rwGRl9OK3M3NHy7FG6/mY+yeA42OXAwDuVqcLc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oOVn9bah5msm+RgrYERNuYmWKx4sHPtIm6p061+PD7/pzqm84GuPZF4b3uVOlMQnq nUyVudKIA6GAGYV5JYxTueHgBY0edP9zNsgQpB5I7rtmOokQRtEtyhsG6iJpzQ9Ffa 59X1jjwGA857VTmLCl1ab0XrHPKJESLnzTUAcmuY= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 13:45:07 -0800 From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame (#3186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc09be31e7a3_31e03fa7856cd95c6599ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 21:45:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc09be31e7a3_31e03fa7856cd95c6599ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can see how this can simplify some decoding logic, but I am not sure we should consider such a value valid in the first place. If the value is invalid it is meaningless to discuss length and then there is only a frame error left. Otherwise we could probably revisit a gazillion other places where this principle could also apply. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186#issuecomment-549561406 ----==_mimepart_5dc09be31e7a3_31e03fa7856cd95c6599ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I can see how this can simplify some decoding logic, but I am not sure we should consider such a value valid in the first place. If the value is invalid it is meaningless to discuss length and then there is only a frame error left. Otherwise we could probably revisit a gazillion other places where this principle could also apply.

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@ianswett requested changes on this pull request.

Actually, I thought the principle we have is that if you could identify a frame as being invalid with no other information, it should be a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR, so the existing text is correct?

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@ianswett yes this is largely what I meant. The PR introduces a new principle.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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----==_mimepart_5dc0b8a854434_4fd03fec7aacd9643145e9-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 15:54:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55909120131 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:53:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Xkzc7whug3q for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ECB9120114 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9905C8C00AE for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:53:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572911635; bh=+IYdgARo5gNUbNDUNJ/S9yGWxp6r39lY9VUVT+cAJ9k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GHNu2cGdy7917IMBla3751kehLEO6V5Ix2+qGTZsssiQVG4A2aBeQvyvY3P/ckPpQ jZFXI+FEzzlTFphjTcN9lL1t1lxo/Erk+R8P6uFIn1/W0vTk+7Z71Mg8Si/imL8XsF DU1oIR5ovF3lJ9sUE5MdP3SwQDbfPYJpUYdMkPPM= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 15:53:55 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Overflow in appendix A packet number decoding sample (#3187) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0ba13891ee_55593fca786cd96427691c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 23:53:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0ba13891ee_55593fca786cd96427691c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for finding these. I'm not concerned about overflow on the upper end (you get other problems at that point), but it's worth getting right. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3187#issuecomment-549600368 ----==_mimepart_5dc0ba13891ee_55593fca786cd96427691c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for finding these. I'm not concerned about overflow on the upper end (you get other problems at that point), but it's worth getting right.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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I think that we can use a single comment here for both.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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-   if candidate_pn <=3D expected_pn - pn_hwin:=0D
+   // Note the extra check for overflow when candidate_pn=0D
+   // is near MAX_PACKET_NUMBER=0D
+   if candidate_pn <=3D expected_pn - pn_hwin and=0D
+      candidate_pn + pn_win < 1 << 62:=0D
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This issue was discussed previously in #632. Is there new information that might result in us reaching a different conclusion?

The last comment from @martinthomson in #632 was:

In the future, if there are more concrete proposals for what can be measured (and ideally how), then we will need a thorough analysis along the lines of that performed for the spin bit.

This issue references a concrete proposal as well as a measurement study of that proposal performed on actual user QUIC traffic. It is asking for a consideration along the lines of that performed for the spin bit. Is that not so?

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Yes, that comment also says "this is not going to happen for QUIC version 1".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -
-The value for an idle timeout can be asymmetric.  The value advertised by an
-endpoint is only used to determine whether the connection is live at that
-endpoint.  An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout
-period of a peer risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the
-draining state before the packets arrive.  If a peer could timeout within a
-Probe Timeout (PTO; see Section 6.3 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), it is advisable to
-test for liveness before sending any data that cannot be retried safely.  Note
-that it is likely that only applications or application protocols will
-know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is

It's a new timeout. It's not covered by any existing timeouts, so calling it out explicitly avoids use of generic language below.

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I believe this is simpler to implement assuming one is implementing both a client and server. I already have special case code to send a PING when there are bytes in flight but nothing to send, so this is very similar.

When a PTO fires, the endpoint is supposed to try and retransmit something if there is data to retransmit. In this case, you'd need to special-case it so that the server doesn't in fact retransmit but sends a PING instead. That's what I meant by adding more code.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1675,22 +1683,20 @@ one.  The client MUST NOT use the token provided in a Retry for future
 connections. Servers MAY discard any Initial packet that does not carry the
 expected token.
 
-A token SHOULD be constructed in a way that allows the server to distinguish it
-from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same
-field.
-
-The token MUST NOT include information that would allow it to be linked by an
-on-path observer to the connection on which it was issued.  For example, it
-cannot include the connection ID or addressing information unless the values are
-encrypted.
-
 Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time
 between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used.
 Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit

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One suggestion to change a normative to a MUST, on existing text.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

I definitely like this text better. That said, I'm not sure that we should recommend sending a connection close. Esp. when under DoS, we do not want servers doing more work than necessary.

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+1 that we should require this behavior. We know that implementers will try out tricks here if they want to, and there's no enforcement to stop that from happening.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT

"from sending a 1-RTT packet on a PTO before ..."

We don't have a "PTO packet"

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

@marten-seemann is right, I missed this too. The text says that the PTO is set on the "lowest active PN space", which is incorrect. I would simply drop this sentence.

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@marten-seemann : I'm confused too. For consistency, I would keep it at FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR, since that's what we do for the flow control error too.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1675,22 +1683,20 @@ one.  The client MUST NOT use the token provided in a Retry for future
 connections. Servers MAY discard any Initial packet that does not carry the
 expected token.
 
-A token SHOULD be constructed in a way that allows the server to distinguish it
-from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are carried in the same
-field.
-
-The token MUST NOT include information that would allow it to be linked by an
-on-path observer to the connection on which it was issued.  For example, it
-cannot include the connection ID or addressing information unless the values are
-encrypted.
-
 Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time
 between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used.
 Thus, a token SHOULD have an expiration time, which could be either an explicit

Problems with existing text can be taken up on a new issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

What does Roberto say again? I think that if the server is under duress, then dropping the packet is fine. This is a recommendation that allows the server to help the client, that's all. Do you think we need to acknowledge the possibility that the server is overloaded and add the third case?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

The text seems to assume that an implementer will handle the third case, where I was leaning towards being explicit. Perhaps something like: "When under duress, the server could discard such a packet. Dropping such a packet could however result in ..." That makes it a bit more explicit.

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----==_mimepart_5dc0dc5a24e3d_46bf3f8cb24cd9608254c-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 18:25:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6800120033 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:25:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FdA0SlrW3fyH for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CAD712000F for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764D1C0D5E for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:25:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572920715; bh=w3dAieTTy+8XJ7ZS5qAUDdB3a+KfEp+jgFZUwGUTKg4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lkUS1w4bTNdmlulbmrP96oZz/m7fbDO/82CUMnJ26Fy0qqaxZXKnHRKkJIXEgpPtC cL6514cVK9RHcBSo7azRXQdfNnYArltstmRwy6ruhaOHoa09P2dq/5qwLrLZOWJ7E7 s7eBoML8vGfIRVLv7CNvanp+L/p9C8gwxBQURWP0= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:25:15 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0dd8b69227_1dce3fed24ecd960775a1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 02:25:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0dd8b69227_1dce3fed24ecd960775a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Specifically, we discussed this in Tokyo and decided to not pursue this f= or=0D QUICv1. From #632: "Tokyo conclusion: this requires something more concre= te=0D and anything about this is not going to happen for QUIC version 1."=0D =0D I'll echo Martin's comment -- what has changed?=0D =0D On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 4:30 PM Martin Thomson =0D= wrote:=0D =0D > Yes, that comment also says "this is not going to happen for QUIC versi= on=0D > 1".=0D >=0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > ,=0D > or unsubscribe=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189#issuecomment-549634907= ----==_mimepart_5dc0dd8b69227_1dce3fed24ecd960775a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Specifically, we discussed this in Tokyo and decided to not pursue this f= or
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This leaves us out of sync. Let's not add PRs/Issues to changelogs until they've been merged please. It's a good thing to get eyes on PRs and we may not always be able to land them as planned. That's perfectly fine.

I would recommend keeping the changelog accurate to what's already merged, and adding a line amending the changelog in the pending PR.

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----==_mimepart_5dc0e05543da6_19893fa69aecd9688508e-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 18:37:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E76812004D for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L5acHbIgQ8lF for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91685120033 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:37:14 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572921434; bh=eaQj3r9z1nw5NqeFN4HSpVyxBFRXervitN0NgQQ1JPY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aBmnFgzCTbV4Rm/kllwkczEfeOo5ST4ezTqsPZdbSE32mNJaECXgE4luLGWEecdaS nx6/Y67KIsVtIsZaugRltAoure9zYhbUvlpeMy0/0dOgCaldFudKX/cG/Ic6m6Idj3 wBQkK9wk+sJWiX4UEcrU28FRZ9wTHT/PvQ5iHdbY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame (#3186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0e05a898e8_1f733fc168ecd95c114418"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 02:37:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e05a898e8_1f733fc168ecd95c114418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett @janaiyengar I am with @marten-seemann. Let me explain why. There are two reasons we decided to allow use of FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR for STREAM frames: * The overflow can be detected by the flow control logic. Then, there is not need to have a logic to detect the error in the frame decoder. * The flow control logic might be capable of returning only one error. * FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR is more specific than FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR. These reasons equally hold for CRYPTO streams sending CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED, as CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED is the error code used to indicate flow control error with CRYPTO streams. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186#issuecomment-549637548 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e05a898e8_1f733fc168ecd95c114418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett @janaiyengar I am with @marten-seemann. Let me explain why.

There are two reasons we decided to allow use of FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR for STREAM frames:

  • The overflow can be detected by the flow control logic. Then, there is not need to have a logic to detect the error in the frame decoder.
  • The flow control logic might be capable of returning only one error.
  • FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR is more specific than FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

These reasons equally hold for CRYPTO streams sending CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED, as CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED is the error code used to indicate flow control error with CRYPTO streams.

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----==_mimepart_5dc0e05a898e8_1f733fc168ecd95c114418-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 18:37:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BF212004D for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mJCyLKM3dA4i for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C9DB120033 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:37:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:37:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572921451; bh=F8Kt2GMd3T9Zb0mZsHdPrbVMRdILRca3Z7KckLOBUIA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RA0lx8J7Tk6uelGVXwtkzpbuiSumh+6KLa1fqVzPwKL4JRZIR3c57XIi5ayEfn9TY pvW2vTcgt5SicjhYlQRPvfmxcnzochwm3TLy37Xi/pv4Cz8mvej3HKRE3b5dHF1ZDz SWTZ8M94JZI/f1Moe1A4Vd7aFzKBISYkktmHhwfQ= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0e06be0b85_19473fe4b88cd96c11934a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 02:37:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e06be0b85_19473fe4b88cd96c11934a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar See my reply to @martinthomson. What's changed is that we now have a concrete proposal and it has been validated to work on real world traffic. The lack of the above was the reason #632 was not pursued further, per the entirety of the quoted comment. The WG may still decide not to pursue this, but it would have to be for a different reason. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189#issuecomment-549637589 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e06be0b85_19473fe4b88cd96c11934a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@janaiyengar See my reply to @martinthomson. What's changed is that we now have a concrete proposal and it has bee= n validated to work on real world traffic. The lack of the above was the = reason #632 was not pursued further, per the entirety of the quot= ed comment.

The WG may still decide not to pursue this, but it would have to be fo= r a different reason.

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= ----==_mimepart_5dc0e06be0b85_19473fe4b88cd96c11934a-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 18:38:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC1612080A for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:38:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W4_nrUFl6-aL for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E52AD120839 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:38:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:38:50 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572921530; bh=AjN4db4DYdehIr8ABA4ZFuUKQBps8XaItSp9SpBPFwo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Espt7Jn67xY9ENycJzQJBYI0P/6OFw+am5Vie3jY5h2kvbUo/umB+9swR4sohAC8c 68/iwP+USnEIF5IZyNKregP+z7W6XqSKM8B4Xo1X+7cgxfVnGDh79Y10C//jHK6/VR q+x4JOXCmwU73Cjoilaq7HsfkPPTrA9gJnHcew3U= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change idle_timeout to max_idle_timeout (#3099) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0e0ba178ec_1be13faccbacd96c140394"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 02:38:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e0ba178ec_1be13faccbacd96c140394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > -know what information can be retried. +Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value +is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing +a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close +({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value. + +An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is +received and processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending +a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet; +see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been +sent since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures +that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity. + +An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period +risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state +before the packets arrive. If a peer could time out within an Probe Timeout I think the text should be fixed here... why introduce text here and then fix it in a new PR? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3099#discussion_r342361117 ----==_mimepart_5dc0e0ba178ec_1be13faccbacd96c140394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is
+received and processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending
+a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet;
+see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been
+sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending packets ensures
+that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity.
+
+An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period
+risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state
+before the packets arrive.  If a peer could time out within an Probe Timeout

I think the text should be fixed here... why introduce text here and then fix it in a new PR?

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It also SHOULD send a PING only packet if there are bytes in flight but nothing to send.

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From the original issue, the proposed principle was: "If you can detect an error while parsing the frame, and without consulting any connection state, it should be a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR."

It seems clear you can do that in this case, but maybe we changed the principle?

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----==_mimepart_5dc0e8f663149_4bcd3ff7330cd9641089c1-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 19:51:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFF412002F for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 19:51:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lNIxIxN1RDPx for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 19:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01B2B120020 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 19:51:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:51:41 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572925901; bh=hwbI21VlxHNgveEnPU70yhxn6iltEFtbl0c+iz+/Lo4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WaP7vs1ejmzo7rAKSxRTtjhrZ8iOM/ck0GNl5laMJFvcoQoffY+bgglVD/RoAOM6l 4ypr0SZuz9O8gul4Fmf6GYuyf/daRJqpHb4bKrKEU4lGJi8jj6qgFW+LbV6MYUA97K uVkAstAFdqTMuYLVwFPC+m2CY5DZz4zmiToihIhI= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame (#3186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0f1cd3f576_2b423fb1ff8cd96c59543"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 03:51:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0f1cd3f576_2b423fb1ff8cd96c59543 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett That would also apply to the STREAM frame then. I'd be fine just using the FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR in all these cases, but people pushed back against that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186#issuecomment-549651826 ----==_mimepart_5dc0f1cd3f576_2b423fb1ff8cd96c59543 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett That would also apply to the STREAM frame then. I'd be fine just using the FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR in all these cases, but people pushed back against that.

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@ianswett Yeah I think I should have said that the exceptional rule within the principles.

Specifically, I mean the discussion starting from #3042 (review), that talks if we should allow FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR and why.

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----==_mimepart_5dc0f365f33b6_5abf3f91a36cd9681041db-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 20:13:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAA212003F for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:13:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FHDxBGdY75B8 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FCD0120020 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83168C083C for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:13:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572927221; bh=fBHkt8rwYELWMtunksgkxRlctiHaGkX8FLg2KBqEdzw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AVcW7fBaAo/J+8lcS4RvowihF8kQ1JAfuVNhB0/3TuQB3bMm3hHkwEUzqjzz/OmLY mnFXYy4A/jsCKjk9qGtTgqs/+iByq0qrmS21HRlBJQXtZ0mcPHfu64Eg7nJz++Tc1a xkGaYdAZ44W5Fc58w3QYpQd69I/MOlPjhJP04bxg= Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 20:13:41 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] The method of identifying "the same server" (#3155) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc0f6f5c8f69_18d43fcd350cd9644117d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 04:13:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc0f6f5c8f69_18d43fcd350cd9644117d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The client will not use the token if it has migrated to a different address. The specification is not written as such. Section 8.1.2 states, that _if the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the Token field of its Initial packet._ There is no requirement for the client to check it's address (or the network). I think that the approach used by the specification is correct. In practice, I think we cannot assume that all the clients would correctly deal with their source address explicitly (as well as the change of the address). Besides, a change of source address does not necessarily mean that the client has migrated to a different network. Consider the case where a client goes out of one DHCP network, then returns to that network. In such case, the client might receive a different address, but it is still on the same network. After all, we are requiring the server to associate NEW_TOKEN tokens and the original source address. Then, why not let the server decide if a token can be reused? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3155#issuecomment-549655583 ----==_mimepart_5dc0f6f5c8f69_18d43fcd350cd9644117d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The client will not use the token if it has migrated to a different address.

The specification is not written as such. Section 8.1.2 states, that if the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the Token field of its Initial packet. There is no requirement for the client to check it's address (or the network).

I think that the approach used by the specification is correct. In practice, I think we cannot assume that all the clients would correctly deal with their source address explicitly (as well as the change of the address). Besides, a change of source address does not necessarily mean that the client has migrated to a different network. Consider the case where a client goes out of one DHCP network, then returns to that network. In such case, the client might receive a different address, but it is still on the same network. After all, we are requiring the server to associate NEW_TOKEN tokens and the original source address. Then, why not let the server decide if a token can be reused?

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For the client, the consequences of a bad guess is a wasted token and (maybe) the wasted bytes. That's all. So in general, there is no reason to constrain use of tokens where the client thinks that they might be useful AND that the client is willing to risk linkability between sessions.

The latter condition is where the various linkages come into play, but the point remains that the client is responsible for making an assessment. This text is about setting a common baseline for that.

If a client wants to extend the set of servers that might be able to link sessions, I think that's OK, but it has to do this on the understanding of what that means. The server that issued the token might see this new usage and link it to a specific prior context. Without ESNI, that means things like knowing where previous users are now trying to connect.

As @kazuho says, a client might choose to constrain token use to particular networks, but it doesn't have to. I might even go so far as to say that they should probably not reuse a token from a different network location, but that depends on having information that I know is hard to acquire. A requirement that the token only be used from a certain network location wouldn't be implemented because in some cases it couldn't be implemented reliably.

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----==_mimepart_5dc11b5d6596b_67523f950dacd9607690e9-- From nobody Mon Nov 4 22:50:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCD9120020 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:50:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_SUMOF=5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gPBR8ICK9-S9 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 414C8120013 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:50:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:50:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572936638; bh=jwlE59ZoeEICxduVEjQ7hT51QPvz6wXIRrYYl8XSDNQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=E1pqwm7isCWGj2ThjoNxmB2XYb+M1fuCh8KLaap/FkoWqq7O8pQX4HDWhbVOAnr+M 1nOxPZU2fCdde1dw59YWN5cW8wACTxougJljNiErpSdPOvOwpLQUZ8FLk77WOSBhHP LejO0qT44n7pw3BFE+8mSu2GP09fGkwSRt4HL6Tk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] token-based greasing / initial packet protection (#3166) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc11bbe5ba8d_3ac63fcb550cd964550424"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 06:50:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc11bbe5ba8d_3ac63fcb550cd964550424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. I think that this is generally the right design, though I think that the framing here could be improved. "Seeding" doesn't seem to be the right concept here. The point here is that this creates **version aliases** for QUIC version 1. As such, I think that this belongs as a subsection of [Section 15](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#versions). It almost makes sense to move this much earlier to [Section 6](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#version-negotiation), but that is before the concept of address validation is introduced. I would however suggest that this section have a forward-pointer to this new text. This PR is heavily biased toward server behaviour. For instance, there is no subsection for client procedures. I think that this would read more clearly if client behaviour were specified, as that is relatively straightforward: when you use a token that came from NEW_TOKEN, these values replace the equivalent values in the protocol. More inline, including a rewrite :/ > @@ -2721,6 +2724,96 @@ between endpoints. Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint. +# Seeding {#seeding} + +In order to avoid ossification of the cleartext and obfuscated fields of QUIC +packets, a server can announce a set of alternative initial values to be used, +which is comprised of: I think that these definitions are better left to NEW_TOKEN. That reduces the scope of this text considerably. > +which is comprised of: + +* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in + place of the version number specified in this document. This value MUST NOT + be a reserved version ({{versions}}). + +* Packet type modifier; a two-bit value that obfuscates the Long Packet Type of + a long header packet ({{long-header}}). The long packet type bits of a long + header packet is encoded as an bit-wise exclusive or (XOR) of the packet type + modifier and the type numbers defined in {{long-packet-types}}. + +* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial + salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. + +A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}. +The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds. This property can be Tokens don't permit anything. I think that what you want to say here is that the server needs to properly recognize this new version and associated parameters as equivalent to QUIC version 1 for the full duration described by the Lifetime field. > +* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial + salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. + +A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}. +The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds. This property can be +achieved for example by embedding these seeds in the encrypted token. + +For the non-default seeds to work, all the servers within the scope of a +NEW_TOKEN token are required to have a shared knowledge of those seeds being +issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server +deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement. + +A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to +using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number, +default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames +it sends. I think that the mailing list discussion has provided sufficient input on this text that it is probably time to revise it. > + +A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to +using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number, +default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames +it sends. + +The rest of this section applies to the servers that advertise non-default +values as their seeds. + + +## Server Behavior + +Typically, a server that advertises the alternative seeds would act in the +following steps: + +* The server pre-allocates a set of unused version numbers as the alternative This implies that you can't provide a different salt for version 1. But I am fairly certain that you can with this design. The same applies to ?a?a?a?a. If you only support versions that include tokens, then those tokens can encode the real version and you can fill the real version number with noise (that you should still authenticate, of course). If there are different real versions that carry tokens in different places, you might have some trouble finding tokens. But I believe that this is achievable if you reorder or restructure token contents. If a real version you support doesn't carry a token in the Initial-equivalent packet, then you just need to avoid clobbering that version (or versions, if it uses a different aliasing scheme). > +issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server +deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement. + +A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to +using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number, +default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames +it sends. + +The rest of this section applies to the servers that advertise non-default +values as their seeds. + + +## Server Behavior + +Typically, a server that advertises the alternative seeds would act in the +following steps: I think that this advice is too constraining. I would instead say, probably as the sum of total of this section: > To protect against the possibility of third parties fixating on specific aspects of the encoding of unprotected Initial packets, an optional version aliasing function is provided that is bound to address validation tokens provided using NEW_TOKEN. > > A server that supports version aliasing includes an alias version, a packet type mask, and replacement Initial salt with every NEW_TOKEN message. This provides obfuscation of Initial packets for subsequent connections to the same server. Use of this capability is optional for servers. A server MAY use default values to avoid creating aliased versions. > > A client MUST use aliased versions if tokens from NEW_TOKEN are used. Details of how version alias fields are used are included in {{frame-new-token}}. > > A server commits to supporting an aliased version for the entire time that the token is valid (as indicated by the Lifetime field). Therefore, servers need to ensure that the process used to select version alias fields is the same for all servers that might accept the token, both across different server instances in the same deployment and across potential crashes or reboots that might cause servers to lose state. > > The purpose of version aliases are to confound attempts by third parties to fixate on a specific form of Initial packets. Therefore, the information that a server uses to interpret aliased versions does not need to be based on secret information and it does not have to change frequently. Consequently, building values into software is a viable means of ensuring that values are not lost. > > As an example of an implementation that is both robust against loss of state and still difficult for third parties to fixate on, a server could generate an aliased version and associated values using a pseudorandom function that uses a static key. Including a key identifier in the token should allow the server to identify the key that is in use, which allows for periodic key rotation. As long as old keys are retained until all tokens issued using that key have expired, the server is able to correctly recognize any valid aliased version. > > A server that provides aliased versions needs to remove any version aliasing prior to determining whether to send a Version Negotiation packet when processing incoming packets as described in {{server-pkt-handling}}. I think that you might also want to update the text in [Section 5.2.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#server-pkt-handling) to refer to this new section. > @@ -2721,6 +2724,96 @@ between endpoints. Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint. +# Seeding {#seeding} + +In order to avoid ossification of the cleartext and obfuscated fields of QUIC +packets, a server can announce a set of alternative initial values to be used, +which is comprised of: + +* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in + place of the version number specified in this document. This value MUST NOT + be a reserved version ({{versions}}). I don't think that it is necessary to prohibit the use of any allocated version, including the reserved versions. > + server, thereby conforming to the requirements in {{validate-future}}. After + that, the server sends a NEW_TOKEN frame that contains the generated token and + the seeds that have been embedded into that token. + +* When the client reconnects to the server by using the provided token and the + seeds, the server first checks if the version number field of the incoming + packet contains one of the alternative version numbers it advertises, then if + that is the case, applies the corresponding packet type modifier to recover + the correct packet type. If the recovered packet type is an Initial packet + and that packet contains a NEW_TOKEN token, the server decrypts the embedded + token and recovers the initial salt, uses that to decrypt the payload of the + Initial packet. + +* When sending a Retry in response to an Initial packet carrying an alternative + version number, the server embeds the NEW_TOKEN token found in the Initial + packet within the retry token it issues. Once the server receives a response This is an important design point that is hidden: the aliased version applies to all Initial packets that are sent. That means that the alternative salt is used when the server provides an updated connection ID. Do the Handshake and 0-RTT packets also use the aliased version? That needs to be right up front. > +numbers it issues. Such design is not recommended, as an active attacker might +build a list of known alternative version numbers and their initial salts and +use that list to decrypt the payload of Initial packets using those alternative +version numbers. But still, having a set of version numbers and initial salts +used concurrently is considered better than just using the default values of +QUIC in terms of preventing ossification. + +A server MUST NOT send a Version Negotitation packet in response to a long +header packet with an alternative version number it has advertised. + + +## Distributing the Seeds + +This specification defines how the seeds are used as well as how they are +advertised using a NEW_TOKEN frame. Other specifications MAY define other +methods for distributing or deducing these seeds. I don't think that we need to say this here. I think that this subsection can be removed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3166#pullrequestreview-311511865 ----==_mimepart_5dc11bbe5ba8d_3ac63fcb550cd964550424 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I think that this is generally the right design, though I think that the framing here could be improved.

"Seeding" doesn't seem to be the right concept here. The point here is that this creates version aliases for QUIC version 1. As such, I think that this belongs as a subsection of Section 15. It almost makes sense to move this much earlier to Section 6, but that is before the concept of address validation is introduced. I would however suggest that this section have a forward-pointer to this new text.

This PR is heavily biased toward server behaviour. For instance, there is no subsection for client procedures. I think that this would read more clearly if client behaviour were specified, as that is relatively straightforward: when you use a token that came from NEW_TOKEN, these values replace the equivalent values in the protocol.

More inline, including a rewrite :/

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2721,6 +2724,96 @@ between endpoints.  Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling
 streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint.
 
 
+# Seeding {#seeding}
+
+In order to avoid ossification of the cleartext and obfuscated fields of QUIC
+packets, a server can announce a set of alternative initial values to be used,
+which is comprised of:

I think that these definitions are better left to NEW_TOKEN. That reduces the scope of this text considerably.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +which is comprised of:
+
+* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in
+  place of the version number specified in this document.  This value MUST NOT
+  be a reserved version ({{versions}}).
+
+* Packet type modifier; a two-bit value that obfuscates the Long Packet Type of
+  a long header packet ({{long-header}}).  The long packet type bits of a long
+  header packet is encoded as an bit-wise exclusive or (XOR) of the packet type
+  modifier and the type numbers defined in {{long-packet-types}}.
+
+* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial
+  salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+
+A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}.
+The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds.  This property can be

Tokens don't permit anything. I think that what you want to say here is that the server needs to properly recognize this new version and associated parameters as equivalent to QUIC version 1 for the full duration described by the Lifetime field.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial
+  salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+
+A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}.
+The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds.  This property can be
+achieved for example by embedding these seeds in the encrypted token.
+
+For the non-default seeds to work, all the servers within the scope of a
+NEW_TOKEN token are required to have a shared knowledge of those seeds being
+issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server
+deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement.
+
+A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to
+using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number,
+default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames
+it sends.

I think that the mailing list discussion has provided sufficient input on this text that it is probably time to revise it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to
+using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number,
+default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames
+it sends.
+
+The rest of this section applies to the servers that advertise non-default
+values as their seeds.
+
+
+## Server Behavior
+
+Typically, a server that advertises the alternative seeds would act in the
+following steps:
+
+* The server pre-allocates a set of unused version numbers as the alternative

This implies that you can't provide a different salt for version 1. But I am fairly certain that you can with this design. The same applies to ?a?a?a?a.

If you only support versions that include tokens, then those tokens can encode the real version and you can fill the real version number with noise (that you should still authenticate, of course).

If there are different real versions that carry tokens in different places, you might have some trouble finding tokens. But I believe that this is achievable if you reorder or restructure token contents.

If a real version you support doesn't carry a token in the Initial-equivalent packet, then you just need to avoid clobbering that version (or versions, if it uses a different aliasing scheme).

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server
+deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement.
+
+A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to
+using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number,
+default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames
+it sends.
+
+The rest of this section applies to the servers that advertise non-default
+values as their seeds.
+
+
+## Server Behavior
+
+Typically, a server that advertises the alternative seeds would act in the
+following steps:

I think that this advice is too constraining. I would instead say, probably as the sum of total of this section:

To protect against the possibility of third parties fixating on specific aspects of the encoding of unprotected Initial packets, an optional version aliasing function is provided that is bound to address validation tokens provided using NEW_TOKEN.

A server that supports version aliasing includes an alias version, a packet type mask, and replacement Initial salt with every NEW_TOKEN message. This provides obfuscation of Initial packets for subsequent connections to the same server. Use of this capability is optional for servers. A server MAY use default values to avoid creating aliased versions.

A client MUST use aliased versions if tokens from NEW_TOKEN are used. Details of how version alias fields are used are included in {{frame-new-token}}.

A server commits to supporting an aliased version for the entire time that the token is valid (as indicated by the Lifetime field). Therefore, servers need to ensure that the process used to select version alias fields is the same for all servers that might accept the token, both across different server instances in the same deployment and across potential crashes or reboots that might cause servers to lose state.

The purpose of version aliases are to confound attempts by third parties to fixate on a specific form of Initial packets. Therefore, the information that a server uses to interpret aliased versions does not need to be based on secret information and it does not have to change frequently. Consequently, building values into software is a viable means of ensuring that values are not lost.

As an example of an implementation that is both robust against loss of state and still difficult for third parties to fixate on, a server could generate an aliased version and associated values using a pseudorandom function that uses a static key. Including a key identifier in the token should allow the server to identify the key that is in use, which allows for periodic key rotation. As long as old keys are retained until all tokens issued using that key have expired, the server is able to correctly recognize any valid aliased version.

A server that provides aliased versions needs to remove any version aliasing prior to determining whether to send a Version Negotiation packet when processing incoming packets as described in {{server-pkt-handling}}.

I think that you might also want to update the text in Section 5.2.2 to refer to this new section.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2721,6 +2724,96 @@ between endpoints.  Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling
 streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint.
 
 
+# Seeding {#seeding}
+
+In order to avoid ossification of the cleartext and obfuscated fields of QUIC
+packets, a server can announce a set of alternative initial values to be used,
+which is comprised of:
+
+* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in
+  place of the version number specified in this document.  This value MUST NOT
+  be a reserved version ({{versions}}).

I don't think that it is necessary to prohibit the use of any allocated version, including the reserved versions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  server, thereby conforming to the requirements in {{validate-future}}.  After
+  that, the server sends a NEW_TOKEN frame that contains the generated token and
+  the seeds that have been embedded into that token.
+
+* When the client reconnects to the server by using the provided token and the
+  seeds, the server first checks if the version number field of the incoming
+  packet contains one of the alternative version numbers it advertises, then if
+  that is the case, applies the corresponding packet type modifier to recover
+  the correct packet type.  If the recovered packet type is an Initial packet
+  and that packet contains a NEW_TOKEN token, the server decrypts the embedded
+  token and recovers the initial salt, uses that to decrypt the payload of the
+  Initial packet.
+
+* When sending a Retry in response to an Initial packet carrying an alternative
+  version number, the server embeds the NEW_TOKEN token found in the Initial
+  packet within the retry token it issues.  Once the server receives a response

This is an important design point that is hidden: the aliased version applies to all Initial packets that are sent. That means that the alternative salt is used when the server provides an updated connection ID. Do the Handshake and 0-RTT packets also use the aliased version? That needs to be right up front.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +numbers it issues.  Such design is not recommended, as an active attacker might
+build a list of known alternative version numbers and their initial salts and
+use that list to decrypt the payload of Initial packets using those alternative
+version numbers.  But still, having a set of version numbers and initial salts
+used concurrently is considered better than just using the default values of
+QUIC in terms of preventing ossification.
+
+A server MUST NOT send a Version Negotitation packet in response to a long
+header packet with an alternative version number it has advertised.
+
+
+## Distributing the Seeds
+
+This specification defines how the seeds are used as well as how they are
+advertised using a NEW_TOKEN frame.  Other specifications MAY define other
+methods for distributing or deducing these seeds.

I don't think that we need to say this here. I think that this subsection can be removed.

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This property can be +achieved for example by embedding these seeds in the encrypted token. + +For the non-default seeds to work, all the servers within the scope of a +NEW_TOKEN token are required to have a shared knowledge of those seeds being +issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server +deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement. + +A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to +using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number, +default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames +it sends. Am I correct in assuming that what you are looking for is a clarification that servers can announce a set of alternative versions, each of them tied to a fixed initial salt and packet type modifier? I think that this is the correct text explaining the multi-CDN use-case, where servers cannot agree on anything. To paraphrase, we'd be explaining: 1. a server that generates a new initial salt for every connection and embeds it into NEW_TOKEN 2. a server that has a fixed mapping between alternative versions vs. salt (and packet type modifier). 3. a server that does not do greasing at all (multi-CDN). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3166#discussion_r342404704 ----==_mimepart_5dc11da7a0d0f_5ac93f91a36cd9686897b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial
+  salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+
+A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}.
+The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds.  This property can be
+achieved for example by embedding these seeds in the encrypted token.
+
+For the non-default seeds to work, all the servers within the scope of a
+NEW_TOKEN token are required to have a shared knowledge of those seeds being
+issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server
+deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement.
+
+A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to
+using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number,
+default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames
+it sends.

Am I correct in assuming that what you are looking for is a clarification that servers can announce a set of alternative versions, each of them tied to a fixed initial salt and packet type modifier?

I think that this is the correct text explaining the multi-CDN use-case, where servers cannot agree on anything.

To paraphrase, we'd be explaining:

  1. a server that generates a new initial salt for every connection and embeds it into NEW_TOKEN
  2. a server that has a fixed mapping between alternative versions vs. salt (and packet type modifier).
  3. a server that does not do greasing at all (multi-CDN).

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----==_mimepart_5dc11da7a0d0f_5ac93f91a36cd9686897b7-- From nobody Tue Nov 5 00:25:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF00F1200F9 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:25:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 895P9ji2854m for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F6D6120103 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B6E660551 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:25:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572942314; bh=anurkbhdRvcVEz2a4fFPGLjVN0ZvCZs4X/oB503YUpk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ll5NOFaNmYSwVUICgp54dRXTH9ACZJNX96vwFkt0HOwfKPaZ4g1yNLJF7CwynDhRp E2Ki0TLAZ+JG6j8sLp8dzsnX9jqS1gCXGYjsl/lzFjfA9mmvwePP0nwyyS45NhsT8t MGPVMgX3fehNevXn9vepCqQg7NZByhoGE+qoYxx4= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:25:14 -0800 From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc131ea84c30_32d43fa8d56cd96041211d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 08:25:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc131ea84c30_32d43fa8d56cd96041211d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it works, if it is tested, and if it is easy to implement, there are great benefits to having it in version 1 because then equipment can monitor all QUIC traffic without exceptions. But if there is the slightest doubt that the design is absolutely right it definitely would be premature to introduce this now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189#issuecomment-549714684 ----==_mimepart_5dc131ea84c30_32d43fa8d56cd96041211d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If it works, if it is tested, and if it is easy to implement, there are great benefits to having it in version 1 because then equipment can monitor all QUIC traffic without exceptions.

But if there is the slightest doubt that the design is absolutely right it definitely would be premature to introduce this now.

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The latter condition is where the various linkages come into play, but the point remains that the client is responsible for making an assessment. This text is about setting a common baseline for that.

I think it is a good thing to cover multiple networks because you can hide from external observers. But, if you are on a corporate or government MITM proxy matters are only going to get worse. That said, QUIC cannot possibly accommodate deliberately broken networks.

Also, clients have interests adverse to users as well - for example Google and Facebook need qualified advertising traffic and if QUIC tokens can slip under the Cookie radar, they will. I can't manage a Google cloud cluster without logging in to Youtube on an account that has never signed up for Youtube, and now I can't watch cat videos without getting cluster management commercials which really goes against the point of watching cat videos in the first place (or something roughly equivalent), so on.

So, there is tension in how much to leave for the client to decide vs actual user privacy.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6057,12 +6057,15 @@ DecodePacketNumber(largest_pn, truncated_pn, pn_nbits):
    // The following code calculates a candidate value and
    // makes sure it's within the packet number window.
    candidate_pn = (expected_pn & ~pn_mask) | truncated_pn
-   if candidate_pn <= expected_pn - pn_hwin:
+   // Note the extra check for overflow when candidate_pn
+   // is near MAX_PACKET_NUMBER
+   if candidate_pn <= expected_pn - pn_hwin and
+      candidate_pn + pn_win < 1 << 62:

Yes, agreed

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----==_mimepart_5dc16d8c1a615_229e3f87feccd95c176414-- From nobody Tue Nov 5 07:28:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE01200D7 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:28:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R5-28Wcckpgd for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1C3F12082E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEE28C0647 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:28:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572967703; bh=JFRHQzv+FraruIMaFtkAqm7xzx+nQsKrGEJSnCCqn9I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xdFiECR23zl43X+8OAtd9pbN8ZODxpxOVRsUNXQnpnAqM9IMxi8uT3sVF2+EFCbc7 Eqmv0JVzMCRXU2BYfWrEmgXY+CQfBltG2xWUaEJ/R9ls5Ocm0Dsk4vGeSFoCVXawr5 9Dp7PJx5iXfTowwElP6GHYmANX1UmBB3VKRWCnhw= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 07:28:23 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] token-based greasing / initial packet protection (#3166) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc19517dd7f5_c063fb0e26cd9641030664"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 15:28:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc19517dd7f5_c063fb0e26cd9641030664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > +which is comprised of: + +* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in + place of the version number specified in this document. This value MUST NOT + be a reserved version ({{versions}}). + +* Packet type modifier; a two-bit value that obfuscates the Long Packet Type of + a long header packet ({{long-header}}). The long packet type bits of a long + header packet is encoded as an bit-wise exclusive or (XOR) of the packet type + modifier and the type numbers defined in {{long-packet-types}}. + +* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial + salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. + +A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}. +The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds. This property can be That's true as well, but the processing flow is: - Server recognizes version alias, which permits it to find the token field - Server is able to obtain the Initial salt using the combination of version and token (whether it needs both is implementation-dependent) - Server uses salt to decrypt Initial packet contents I suggested the "permit ... to recover" language to remove the implication that the token *contains* the salt, but a server could certainly send the same version alias to different clients with different salts if the token enables the mapping. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3166#discussion_r342604097 ----==_mimepart_5dc19517dd7f5_c063fb0e26cd9641030664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +which is comprised of:
+
+* Version number; a 32-bit unsigned number that is to be presented on wire in
+  place of the version number specified in this document.  This value MUST NOT
+  be a reserved version ({{versions}}).
+
+* Packet type modifier; a two-bit value that obfuscates the Long Packet Type of
+  a long header packet ({{long-header}}).  The long packet type bits of a long
+  header packet is encoded as an bit-wise exclusive or (XOR) of the packet type
+  modifier and the type numbers defined in {{long-packet-types}}.
+
+* Initial salt; a 16-byte binary blob that is to be used in place of the initial
+  salt defined in section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
+
+A server advertises these seeds using a NEW_TOKEN frame {{frame-new-token}}.
+The token MUST permit the server to recover these seeds.  This property can be

That's true as well, but the processing flow is:

  • Server recognizes version alias, which permits it to find the token field
  • Server is able to obtain the Initial salt using the combination of version and token (whether it needs both is implementation-dependent)
  • Server uses salt to decrypt Initial packet contents

I suggested the "permit ... to recover" language to remove the implication that the token contains the salt, but a server could certainly send the same version alias to different clients with different salts if the token enables the mapping.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +issued and / or how they can be recovered from the tokens. Certain server
+deployments might have difficulty in meeting such a requirement.
+
+A server (or a set of servers) that cannot satisfy this requirement can stick to
+using the default values by consistently advertising the default version number,
+default initial salt, and a packet type modifier of zero in the NEW_TOKEN frames
+it sends.
+
+The rest of this section applies to the servers that advertise non-default
+values as their seeds.
+
+
+## Server Behavior
+
+Typically, a server that advertises the alternative seeds would act in the
+following steps:

Your "MUST use aliased versions" text seems to override the "MAY use default values" text in the preceding line. I don't think you mean it to, but it could be read that way.

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@kazuho I thought that might have been the relevant discussion. In general, I'd prefer to have principles decided on issues, but I understand these things happen.

I don't think this is the end of the world, but I prefer the original principle because I think it's easy to reason about. If we've decided against that principle, I'd suggest we state a new principle.

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@ianswett I don't think we ever actually discussed this in the working group. If I remember correctly, using two error codes was a suggestion that came up on my original PR, and then the editors decided in Cupertino that I should update the PR accordingly.

Actually, I'd prefer to take the principled approach, and just use FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR wherever possible.

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----==_mimepart_5dc1a82b131ea_41153ff1530cd9685639a3-- From nobody Tue Nov 5 09:22:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659A4120116 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 09:22:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LNhkREJV7nCD for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 09:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 621A0120104 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 09:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9B2C62054 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 09:22:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572974549; bh=M5cSRkXkFBv3TYoINXsO2uV8zEWOPh5mzmNhwTOJN9Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=E0TYtxD6+dL9RLovuTJ9e0FOfahV+q9cY4nHDsTxodTjetjCUezks6LGAU23KpU0s tMMXo4bBNIxfmP+n9BIwbuIqS5YkzEh3/pEJF5mueRqJjC8V+0XTrw4t8aNss34G46 OxBoQP7wvvypXBOYMWxQAMfeVfFYXaLXzi+Ml+yc= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 09:22:29 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED when overflowing a CRYPTO frame (#3186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc1afd58bfa5_401c3f8042ccd95c10031f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:22:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc1afd58bfa5_401c3f8042ccd95c10031f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann I think we did discuss at the interim. https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-19-10/minutes.md#issue-3027-codes-for-frame-encoding-errors -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3186#issuecomment-549919076 ----==_mimepart_5dc1afd58bfa5_401c3f8042ccd95c10031f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann I think we did discuss at the interim. https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-19-10/minutes.md#issue-3027-codes-for-frame-encoding-errors

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To be precise, we discussed that two error codes were OK at the interim, then declared that as a consensus in the call started on Oct 22 https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/LrM0w3L3mHSLMn1mH98Xq1E-DQs. I do not think we should be revisiting the discussion.

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I think we should either:

  1. Espouse a new principle that fits the existing text and this PR and use that going forward
  2. Stick with the original principle and remove the OR FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR from the text.

If we don't have a principle that matches the text, we're prone to having this discussion a few more times.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Nov 5 11:34:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8E4120105 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:34:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wz0nZ-70_Q5k for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76B8212093D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4E252060D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:34:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572982483; bh=mu5sAHtBi0Uq48SoYH4LjTisLDoAdwZ+gAUzYZ6iWB8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UENAE/Zsaf1HNgU9dueuWX3iX2RddO4xmLOLqDbLW3mwEQ2fH2VWiQNiD96+uxop/ 8JSRTbP1W7zcSir3PNwg4E4Vzy4n81mihdbieV0pgWmNXDhjcmvYsF5Tu5VvgW00LG 3wZ3fX2j+OBPoQZPEdnlU4twxaaEafKRgqD7SnTo= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:34:43 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify the client's PTO code by allowing the server to send a PING (#3161) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc1ced39e03f_76e93ff131ecd968263816"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:34:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc1ced39e03f_76e93ff131ecd968263816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not new data, _any_ data. This was deliberate. See Section 5.3.1: "When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent unacknowledged data, it MUST be sent." The point of this text was to send data if available, new or previously sent. In the case that we are discussing the server is supposed to send a PING, but it might have data to send. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3161#issuecomment-549983947 ----==_mimepart_5dc1ced39e03f_76e93ff131ecd968263816 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Not new data, any data. This was deliberate. See Section 5.3.1: "When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent unacknowledged data, it MUST be sent." The point of this text was to send data if available, new or previously sent. In the case that we are discussing the server is supposed to send a PING, but it might have data to send.

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Merged #3188 into master.

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Fixes #2863 Commit: c5510411b24a814f432e56a6d5d0d0434f1b7516 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c5510411b24a814f432e56a6d5d0d0434f1b7516 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-09-24 (Tue, 24 Sep 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 3abb83565f1fc9772614f118c5dccc212a45137d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3abb83565f1fc9772614f118c5dccc212a45137d Author: ianswett Date: 2019-09-24 (Tue, 24 Sep 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 33c994e1f8e9123c59f5265e507842ab076433b5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/33c994e1f8e9123c59f5265e507842ab076433b5 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M ietf.json Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-pto-per-pn-space Commit: 6c3ae350dc546bf6756258f93a2d40a64cc2daa4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6c3ae350dc546bf6756258f93a2d40a64cc2daa4 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: 3f0da814e8a6ca8d0223457fbe5bb90157d6df15 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3f0da814e8a6ca8d0223457fbe5bb90157d6df15 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 62e394f7a538c0bf4ef44787510b0229eb118af2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/62e394f7a538c0bf4ef44787510b0229eb118af2 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 8af3d28bd220814a89edce17726f563783deac0d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8af3d28bd220814a89edce17726f563783deac0d Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 49a28334da5cbecebb108424ba5db0dca7840e7b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49a28334da5cbecebb108424ba5db0dca7840e7b Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-23 (Wed, 23 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 054fae193d6d9ccffdf0b20b7011a24ed33eb3b1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/054fae193d6d9ccffdf0b20b7011a24ed33eb3b1 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-24 (Thu, 24 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Jana Iyengar Commit: 2140c28bc8398957967bc017e78974668d95a86e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2140c28bc8398957967bc017e78974668d95a86e Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-24 (Thu, 24 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's suggestion Commit: 69afe421890c5a94de801a9dc5c8876154b441e8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69afe421890c5a94de801a9dc5c8876154b441e8 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-25 (Fri, 25 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Marten's comment Commit: 1c9886e38e9d316d18688b46ed75b9eda9a6bfc8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1c9886e38e9d316d18688b46ed75b9eda9a6bfc8 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-25 (Fri, 25 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Marten's pseudocode Commit: a87a04c1a6607caded4daa780f5a8554a82885ab https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a87a04c1a6607caded4daa780f5a8554a82885ab Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-25 (Fri, 25 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- line wrapping Commit: 545e788428c30217c705ecb05f686dde00681a44 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/545e788428c30217c705ecb05f686dde00681a44 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-28 (Mon, 28 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Define loss_times Commit: a00c4753d038f0861677ea547c4402746f219bae https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a00c4753d038f0861677ea547c4402746f219bae Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-28 (Mon, 28 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Exponential backoff limits the packets sent Instead of creating special rules for PTO when multiple PN spaces have data, describe how the already existing exponential backoff accomplishes this. Commit: 5e81481786d1ba1c24c4d39c4712ac5003a5cbb4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e81481786d1ba1c24c4d39c4712ac5003a5cbb4 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-28 (Mon, 28 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: ed8750ae9d8ae6279a44dde075638ca859b40658 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ed8750ae9d8ae6279a44dde075638ca859b40658 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Don't arm PTO for ApplicationData until complete Commit: 6322d369a5b25b731285b131e77a76b405a6ec16 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6322d369a5b25b731285b131e77a76b405a6ec16 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Initial and Handshake have no max_ack_delay Commit: 45bf06ce64636c9ded8fb178a2bc905be372dc39 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/45bf06ce64636c9ded8fb178a2bc905be372dc39 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 34e3d6173c558fb156166a88709f81fa0211742a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/34e3d6173c558fb156166a88709f81fa0211742a Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Martin Duke's suggestions Commit: 54e26e7a39e80a265a642a512b1a8574ea2aed21 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54e26e7a39e80a265a642a512b1a8574ea2aed21 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: d0e699677b5760be95b93cdb9063747cd1e42f4b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d0e699677b5760be95b93cdb9063747cd1e42f4b Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-31 (Thu, 31 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: 50f670169e4cae5b13065c015674b597515cda2e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/50f670169e4cae5b13065c015674b597515cda2e Author: ianswett Date: 2019-10-31 (Thu, 31 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- loss_times -> loss_time Commit: 355d1e552b4ec41891941f7d1f8993ca3723c3da https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/355d1e552b4ec41891941f7d1f8993ca3723c3da Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M .circleci/config.yml M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M ietf.json Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-pto-per-pn-space Commit: cff00e01280aabf3916edb64508a5d786d779bb3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cff00e01280aabf3916edb64508a5d786d779bb3 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- 1 loss_times -> loss_time Commit: 7b29c66d562641af795196e9be527196cb51ef55 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7b29c66d562641af795196e9be527196cb51ef55 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-02 (Sat, 02 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Reword an awkward sentence Commit: 6e902d3ae04f23269607c914d94e6e86cc6b425e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e902d3ae04f23269607c914d94e6e86cc6b425e Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-05 (Tue, 05 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Jana's comments Commit: ef6241dc80cdd1efffd4d0f60fff26855202487b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef6241dc80cdd1efffd4d0f60fff26855202487b Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-11-05 (Tue, 05 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3066 from quicwg/ianswett-pto-per-pn-space Change PTO to be per packet number space Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c86bfb1675ac...ef6241dc80cd From nobody Tue Nov 5 15:14:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFFA120072 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop approved this pull request. Minor nits; otherwise looks good. > +{{!RFC8126}}. Designated expert(s) are advised that only registrations for an +excessive proportion of remaining codepoint space or the very first unassigned +value (see {{iana-random}}) can be rejected. + +Provisional registrations will include a date field that indicates when the +registration was last updated. A request to update the date on any provisional +registration can be made without review from the designated expert(s). + +All QUIC registries include the following fields to support provisional +registration: + +Value: +: The assigned codepoint. + +Status: +: "Permanent" or "Provisional". Specification: ```suggestion ``` The others here don't have a blank line between them. > +New uses of codepoints from QUIC registries SHOULD use a randomly selected +codepoint that excludes both existing allocations and the first unallocated +codepoint in the selected space. This minimizes the risk that differing +semantics are attributed to the same codepoint by different implementations. +Use of the first codepoint in a range is intended for use by specifications that +are developed through the standards process {{?STD=RFC2026}} and its allocation +MUST be negotiated with IANA before use. + +For codepoints that are encoded in variable-length integers +({{integer-encoding}}), such as frame types, codepoints that encode to four or +eight bytes (that is, values 2^14 and above) SHOULD be used unless the usage is +especially sensitive to having a longer encoding. + +Applications to register codepoints in QUIC registries MAY include a codepoint +as part of the registration. IANA MUST allocate the selected codepoint unless +that codepoint is already assigned or the codepoints is the first unallocated ```suggestion that codepoint is already assigned or the codepoint is the first unallocated ``` > + + +### Reclaiming Provisional Codepoints + +A request might be made to remove an unused provisional registration from the +registry to reclaim space in a registry, or portion of the registry (such as the +64-16383 range for codepoints that use variable-length encodings). This SHOULD +be done only for the codepoints with the earliest recorded date and entries that +have been updated less than a year prior SHOULD NOT be reclaimed. + +A request to remove a codepoint MUST be reviewed by the designated expert(s). +The expert(s) MUST attempt to determine whether the codepoint is still in use. +Experts are advised to contact the listed contacts for the registration, plus as +wide a set of protocol implementers as possible in order to determine whether +any use of the codepoint is known. The expert(s) are advised to allow at least +four weeks for this search. ```suggestion four weeks for responses. ``` > +the registration is made, the codepoint MUST NOT be reclaimed. Instead, the +date on the registration is updated. A note might be added for the registration +recording relevant information that was learned. + +If no use of the codepoint was identified and no request was made to update the +registration, the codepoint MAY be removed from the registry. + +This process also applies to requests to change a provisional registration into +a permanent registration, except that the goal is not to determine whether there +is no use of the codepoint, but to determine that the registration is an +accurate representation of any deployed usage. + + +### Permanent Registrations {#iana-permanent} + +Permanent registrations in QUIC registries require Specification Required policy ```suggestion Permanent registrations in QUIC registries use the Specification Required policy ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Minor nits; otherwise looks good.

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If this parameter is absent or zero then the idle - timeout is disabled. +: The max idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer; + see ({{idle-timeout}}). Idle timeout is disabled when both endpoints omit this + transport parameteter or specify a value of 0. SG, I'm going to no longer make the default 0. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3099#discussion_r342850882 ----==_mimepart_5dc2060cd225b_27d23fc3218cd95c44921b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-: The idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer; see
-  ({{idle-timeout}}).  If this parameter is absent or zero then the idle
-  timeout is disabled.
+: The max idle timeout is a value in milliseconds that is encoded as an integer;
+  see ({{idle-timeout}}).  Idle timeout is disabled when both endpoints omit this
+  transport parameteter or specify a value of 0.

SG, I'm going to no longer make the default 0.

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Did #3172 address your concerns here? If not, you may need to rebase and resolve the conflicts.

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Fixed by #3132

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 23:41:27 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: e5aa3e2570e9d093c5ba61dac58443402808fdf2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5aa3e2570e9d093c5ba61dac58443402808fdf2 Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2019-11-05 (Tue, 05 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add ClientHello changes to transport changelog since -23 Commit: bd7e514967d7b1f5ddc66a4e5b26429aa3ce25fa https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd7e514967d7b1f5ddc66a4e5b26429aa3ce25fa Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-06 (Wed, 06 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3191 from dtikhonov/201911051348-allow-CH-span-to-changelog Add ClientHello changes to transport changelog since -23 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/437472d25998...bd7e514967d7 From nobody Tue Nov 5 15:41:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36EB120112 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:41:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EXM7LDOkOM38 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AE08120072 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1681C07C2 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:41:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572997284; bh=p8JUpuMKLQkzmlsyZVtv627Lg7OILFF5yKeZKGnUbrY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gq/n58w68skBxkR0i/rdOFq8wBDh9iqU/s4A8vfHB4Ccxme91JjSwhR+TykdqYyu8 ygJV0QBsE9C5kcBbc8r/eTStDKH7+sgZN/OeqLMsFcFIuhqgePbV8uCD0tSSaSaR81 D9FoN38sU7iep2BvxYS1S93oOhpyz47g8E/v7tp8= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 15:41:24 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add ClientHello changes to transport changelog since -23 (#3191) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc208a46b49d_72c03f8099acd95c5954d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 23:41:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc208a46b49d_72c03f8099acd95c5954d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3191 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Nov 5 15:47:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A401200C3 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:47:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63mcWAQCwT-O for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D35C120121 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:47:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 15:47:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1572997635; bh=nCQPE+fcs2ynfrlb49Zh2ZSq5vGicmACEzQfDKlXIrM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nYD9eAf77uj5VKL6/XGqGryo7RiD7WaQ87R3msDJ0p8DQFZefUmtOL54FYNQNkzeP Cwja4b0ZjD9hB8d3z+BLBMOB0eS8Pn1nz5lA1l5dBYSnQ/Ck99NvoZerNTb+6XofE7 r63B7VFUgS08cN4w8Eu3f+9XdIMdBlwfhJ0ZQ9cQ= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Backoff on CONNECTION_CLOSE (#3157) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc20a03c3263_28fc3fae9c8cd9646318c3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 23:47:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc20a03c3263_28fc3fae9c8cd9646318c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -2379,15 +2379,23 @@ terminate the connection immediately. A CONNECTION_CLOSE frame causes all streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be implicitly reset. -After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter the closing -state. During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE -frame SHOULD respond to any packet that it receives with another packet -containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. To minimize the state that an endpoint -maintains for a closing connection, endpoints MAY send the exact same packet. -However, endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing a -CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase -the number of packets that it receives before sending additional packets or -increase the time between packets. +After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, an endpoint immediately enters the +closing state. + +During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame +SHOULD respond to any incoming packet that can be decrypted with another packet This is just because you have a cleaner split between decrypting and not here. It's OK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3157#discussion_r342855409 ----==_mimepart_5dc20a03c3263_28fc3fae9c8cd9646318c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2379,15 +2379,23 @@ terminate the connection immediately.  A CONNECTION_CLOSE frame causes all
 streams to immediately become closed; open streams can be assumed to be
 implicitly reset.
 
-After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints immediately enter the closing
-state.  During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE
-frame SHOULD respond to any packet that it receives with another packet
-containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame.  To minimize the state that an endpoint
-maintains for a closing connection, endpoints MAY send the exact same packet.
-However, endpoints SHOULD limit the number of packets they generate containing a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame.  For instance, an endpoint could progressively increase
-the number of packets that it receives before sending additional packets or
-increase the time between packets.
+After sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, an endpoint immediately enters the
+closing state.
+
+During the closing period, an endpoint that sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame
+SHOULD respond to any incoming packet that can be decrypted with another packet

This is just because you have a cleaner split between decrypting and not here. It's OK.

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Fixed in #3188.

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Closed #3187.

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The term "address" is used here to include UDP ports. The definition is buried in 8.2 though: "where an address is the two-tuple of IP address and port." I'll take this as a prompt to move this up.

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@martinthomson kindly shared our principles, and this PR aligns with that.
https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#error-handling

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Fixes #2430.

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That is, any version number where the low four bits of all bytes is 1010 (in binary). A client or server MAY advertise support for any of these reserved versions. -Reserved version numbers will probably never represent a real protocol; a client -MAY use one of these version numbers with the expectation that the server will -initiate version negotiation; a server MAY advertise support for one of these -versions and can expect that clients ignore the value. +Reserved version numbers will never represent a real protocol; a client MAY use +one of these version numbers with the expectation that the server will initiate +version negotiation; a server MAY advertise support for one of these versions QUIC doesn't have version negotiation, right? :) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3575,10 +3575,10 @@ version negotiation to be exercised.  That is, any version number where the low
 four bits of all bytes is 1010 (in binary).  A client or server MAY advertise
 support for any of these reserved versions.
 
-Reserved version numbers will probably never represent a real protocol; a client
-MAY use one of these version numbers with the expectation that the server will
-initiate version negotiation; a server MAY advertise support for one of these
-versions and can expect that clients ignore the value.
+Reserved version numbers will never represent a real protocol; a client MAY use
+one of these version numbers with the expectation that the server will initiate
+version negotiation; a server MAY advertise support for one of these versions

QUIC doesn't have version negotiation, right? :)

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This was closed erroneously... apparently we're not quite fully zen with github's AI yet.

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Reopened #2863.

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This feels like a great idea for Quic V2. Instead of just having 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets, also define 0.5-RTT packets that the sender can emit before the handshake is complete. (Or maybe call them sender side 0-RTT.) Use different key derivations for 0.5-RTT and for 1-RTT, and make the 1RTT key dependent on some nonce carried with the client finished message. Add parameters somewhere (TLS or Quic TP) explaining whether the client will accept 0.5RTT packets or discard them.

But no, not today please, not when we are finishing V1. For V1, we should just stick with the spec we have.

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----==_mimepart_5dc2128693ac8_4db73fb709ecd95c2995b-- From nobody Tue Nov 5 16:39:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBA1200E9 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:39:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TMHR_njxnHAB for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 046781200C3 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434CE52084B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 16:39:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573000746; bh=ZYZ89XQJNoYIX/a7gk8pMw+f0bpUZMZ88F8YzEZH0Kw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YE56wpCofrSOAo5jT3lNXet2C2XxA9QqpAfEB/W0XLSeodI6yo36oJlWejSW8OdQL Mh/w6xJTqj/lZmkBkNT2wHa1onFooj163tZBsvQCHbTduGZwYQULjQlOQLAjSmR+Zb +oHzAjSFbAKYmV82d9S2ZA/lNkoAqMOnoVZZx+JQ= Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 16:39:06 -0800 From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc2162a33260_7f173fadf60cd96815852b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:39:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc2162a33260_7f173fadf60cd96815852b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _Chair hat on_ You have brought what appears to be a concrete proposal, but it comes extremely late in the process; we have come to consensus (in #632) not only that we won't address this in QUICv1, but also that we've [raised the bar for new issues](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/tsm7Dln_ssvHiBSZLp7LH9x44DU) on this draft. The question, then, is whether this proposal counts as new information (and note that the late-stage process consensus call lists the primary types of new information as "security and interoperability impact"). Given not only that higher bar but also that so many participants considered this a settled question, I want to consult with @larseggert about how we should triage this issue, and _if_ we accept it as a new design issue, how the discussion should commence. Until then, there's no need for WG participants to weigh in on this; please use your time to work on other issues and your implementations. P.S. You [mentioned this work](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/FL_6Qxrz-RejKlBpGLxdnivPK5Q) in the IETF105 timeframe (and presented to other groups then), but did not make it clear that it was a proposal for QUIC -- @igorlord's words on list were "The draft is not targeted at the QUIC WG specifically". We took you at your word and did not give your draft time in the meeting then; that's a shame, because if you had been more forthcoming, we would have had more options to evaluate this work. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3189#issuecomment-550088196 ----==_mimepart_5dc2162a33260_7f173fadf60cd96815852b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Chair hat on

You have brought what appears to be a concrete proposal, but it comes extremely late in the process; we have come to consensus (in #632) not only that we won't address this in QUICv1, but also that we've raised the bar for new issues on this draft.

The question, then, is whether this proposal counts as new information (and note that the late-stage process consensus call lists the primary types of new information as "security and interoperability impact"). Given not only that higher bar but also that so many participants considered this a settled question, I want to consult with @larseggert about how we should triage this issue, and if we accept it as a new design issue, how the discussion should commence.

Until then, there's no need for WG participants to weigh in on this; please use your time to work on other issues and your implementations.

P.S. You mentioned this work in the IETF105 timeframe (and presented to other groups then), but did not make it clear that it was a proposal for QUIC -- @igorlord's words on list were "The draft is not targeted at the QUIC WG specifically". We took you at your word and did not give your draft time in the meeting then; that's a shame, because if you had been more forthcoming, we would have had more options to evaluate this work.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

@ianswett No, I didn't mean t=3. The Handshake packet was sent sent at t=0, and we're doing one exponential backoff, meaning that the timer duration should be 2.
Or am I missing something here?

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@mnot, @larseggert I am sure this is not an easy call, and it is late in the process. While this is not a straightforward "draft has an interop [between QUIC implementations] problem" it is a potential "draft has an interop with Internet ops problem" issue. This could be a stretch of what interoperability
impact means, or not; please use your best Hat of Wisdom here.

P.S. In the IETF105 timeframe, while the draft I was presenting was, indeed, not targeting QUIC WG specifically, I did ask for the consideration of the topic by QUIC WG: "if the WG is interested, we are happy to have a quick QUIC-specific presentation on this". But you are correct that I could had been much more forceful in the request. In any case, we got a rejection (and, as you said, we later presented this in other WGs and held a side meeting).

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This value is only advisory though, there's nothing st= opping an implementation from storing more CIDs than this limit, and the = peer is allowed to send more CIDs than this limit:=0D > An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs than the peer=E2=80=99= s limit.=0D =0D We don't specify any behavior in the case the peer provides more CIDs tha= n this limit, but since retiring a CID asks the peer to provide a new CID= , it seems like the reasonable thing to do would be to silently drop the = CID on the floor:=0D > Sending a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame indicates that the connection ID w= ill not be used again and requests that the peer replace it with a new co= nnection ID using a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.=0D =0D This means that a peer cannot fulfill its duty of retiring those discarde= d connection IDs when receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with Retire Pri= or To set:=0D > Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs an= d send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.=0D =0D This, however, is not guaranteed, either. A peer might decide to send a R= ETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for a sequence number that it already forgot.=0D= =0D Furthermore, depending on how implementations decide with all these uncer= tainties, one could end up in a situation where an endpoint only has a si= ngle active CID available, but its peer assumes that it is still keeping = track of `active_connection_id_limit` CIDs and thus won't provide any new= CIDs. In this situation, the endpoint won't be able to initiate or respo= nd to a connection migration any more, leading to a failure of the connec= tion.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193= ----==_mimepart_5dc259168f8b5_17c03fe9bd4cd95c278267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The active_connection_id_limit parameters communicates th= e maximum number of connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames that = an endpoint is willing to store. This value is only advisory though, ther= e's nothing stopping an implementation from storing more CIDs than this l= imit, and the peer is allowed to send more CIDs than this limit:

=0D
=0D

An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs than the peer=E2=80= =99s limit.

=0D
=0D

We don't specify any behavior in the case the peer provides more CIDs = than this limit, but since retiring a CID asks the peer to provide a new = CID, it seems like the reasonable thing to do would be to silently drop t= he CID on the floor:

=0D
=0D

Sending a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame indicates that the connection ID = will not be used again and requests that the peer replace it with a new c= onnection ID using a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.

=0D
=0D

This means that a peer cannot fulfill its duty of retiring those disca= rded connection IDs when receiving a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with Retire = Prior To set:

=0D
=0D

Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs an= d send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.

=0D
=0D

This, however, is not guaranteed, either. A peer might decide to send = a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for a sequence number that it already forgot= .

=0D

Furthermore, depending on how implementations decide with all these un= certainties, one could end up in a situation where an endpoint only has a= single active CID available, but its peer assumes that it is still keepi= ng track of active_connection_id_limit CIDs and thus won't p= rovide any new CIDs. In this situation, the endpoint won't be able to ini= tiate or respond to a connection migration any more, leading to a failure= of the connection.

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Thanks for clarification.
This was confusing for me since it currently uses the specific term "IP addresses" instead of "addresses".

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Transport section 11.1

An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the existence of the error to its peer.

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To @kazuho's point b)

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----==_mimepart_5dc27922ee2d4_78013fd20f0cd96c100959f-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 00:17:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C1E120C0F for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:17:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7EQz_uP7yYzD for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABED3120C0C for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC9C62019 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 00:17:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573028270; bh=2Av5VKBC41mF9BuiAzxkAucSNmMxn8SyvzsNbUkPv0U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vGUGKPhdP+6W4aFl/sIiYLKxDDIzvrNWNV/+5oYqppdRISVjWSdJ74xKEgF+92EVJ XLNpyX9zQFC4gbPXr5/bo4VJhnvfNd/ZT7qVnBkjW8dVWBWPLMVdug8Gy6BVgylUMt a+5UT2TGNjT6a626DGDwdxgJSbg60DEsDRtk3D8c= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 00:17:50 -0800 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc281aec092b_1cd53fa82a8cd964466688"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 08:17:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc281aec092b_1cd53fa82a8cd964466688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > it seems like the reasonable thing to do would be to silently drop the CID on the floor That was the previous recommendation if the peer provided too many CIDs and you didn't want to maintain any more, and I think that still applies if the peer doesn't respect the TP. For context, this came up in several issues, the TP came in via #1994, with the [conclusion from Tokyo](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1994#issuecomment-458820197) being that it would be advisory only (hence the SHOULD). PR #1998 actually made the change which included that SHOULD, and also resolved the concerns from #2403. #2428 helped to clarify some rate-limiting around how quickly you should cycle through CIDs. All that is to say, if you want to use the limit and explicitly communicate it with the TP, then you SHOULD do that. Everyone SHOULD do that. If not, or if your peer doesn't respect it, you can always dump those extra CIDs on the floor, with all the potential for running out that comes from taking that action. In this case, you end up maintaining as many as you wanted, probably the same value that you sent in the TP that the other side ignored... If/when the peer sends RetirePriorTo and requests that you retire them, you retire the ones you haven't yet retired and still know about. Generally, that means that you get a replacement for those, so now you still have `active_connection_id_limit` CIDs. (Side note: The place this gets messy is if the peer suddenly decides to respect the value you put in the TP and doesn't replace them. This has always been a potential consequence of dropping them, though.) For the ones that you discarded, the peer should discard those 3PTO after it sent RetirePriorTo. From [Section 5.1.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#retiring-cids): ``` An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement has been requested once an interval of no less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an acknowledgement is received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement. Until then, the endpoint SHOULD be prepared to receive packets that contain the connection ID that it has requested be retired. Subsequent incoming packets using that connection ID could elicit a response with the corresponding stateless reset token. ``` So the peer that requested retirement can discard any state about them, and you're back to having everyone on the same page about how many are outstanding. That generally seems sufficient, although it would be great to cover another scenario or add some text that could be added to explain this better? If the issuing endpoint doesn't use RetirePriorTo then you're fine holding as many as you wanted to maintain forever. If they do use RetirePriorTo, then you're reset back to a good state. And if you ever get RetirePriorTo indicating an old value, you're also happy since you don't need to do anything. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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it seems like the reasonable thing to do would be to silently drop the= CID on the floor

That was the previous recommendation if the peer provided too many CID= s and you didn't want to maintain any more, and I think that still applie= s if the peer doesn't respect the TP.

For context, this came up in several issues, the TP came in via #1994, with the conclusion from To= kyo being that it would be advisory only (hence the SHOULD).

PR #1998 actually made the change which included that SH= OULD, and also resolved the concerns from #2403. #24= 28 helped to clarify some rate-limiting around how quickly you should= cycle through CIDs.

All that is to say, if you want to use the limit and explicitly commun= icate it with the TP, then you SHOULD do that. Everyone SHOULD do that.

If not, or if your peer doesn't respect it, you can always dump those = extra CIDs on the floor, with all the potential for running out that come= s from taking that action. In this case, you end up maintaining as many a= s you wanted, probably the same value that you sent in the TP that the ot= her side ignored...

If/when the peer sends RetirePriorTo and requests that you retire them= , you retire the ones you haven't yet retired and still know about. Gener= ally, that means that you get a replacement for those, so now you still h= ave active_connection_id_limit CIDs. (Side note: The place t= his gets messy is if the peer suddenly decides to respect the value you p= ut in the TP and doesn't replace them. This has always been a potential c= onsequence of dropping them, though.)

For the ones that you discarded, the peer should discard those 3PTO af= ter it sent RetirePriorTo. From Section 5= .1.2:

An endpoint MAY discard a connection ID for which retirement h=
as been requested =

once an interval of no less than 3 PTO has elapsed since an acknowledgeme=
nt is =

received for the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame requesting that retirement. Unti=
l =

then, the endpoint SHOULD be prepared to receive packets that contain the=
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connection ID that it has requested be retired. Subsequent incoming packe=
ts =

using that connection ID could elicit a response with the corresponding =

stateless reset token.

So the peer that requested retirement can discard any state about them= , and you're back to having everyone on the same page about how many are = outstanding.

That generally seems sufficient, although it would be great to cover a= nother scenario or add some text that could be added to explain this bett= er? If the issuing endpoint doesn't use RetirePriorTo then you're fine ho= lding as many as you wanted to maintain forever. If they do use RetirePri= orTo, then you're reset back to a good state.

And if you ever get RetirePriorTo indicating an old value, you're also= happy since you don't need to do anything.

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@ferrieux. Good job, now supported by a concrete proposal and validated on real world traffic. I hope it can be taken into account by the group as soon as possible.

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Dropping connection IDs worked out fine before we introduced the Retire Prior To field. We added that field in #2769, which was merged in July (about half a year after our discussion in Tokyo and the claryfing PRs).

If/when the peer sends RetirePriorTo and requests that you retire them, you retire the ones you haven't yet retired and still know about.

That's not what the spec says (but maybe what the spec intends to say?). If this was the only issue, we could probably easily resolve this by changing the wording to something like "MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs that it still remembers" or so.

Generally, that means that you get a replacement for those, so now you still have active_connection_id_limit CIDs.

That might or might not happen. It all depends on the peer's assumption of what you did: Does it assume that you dropped connection IDs (if so, which ones?)? Does it assume that you actually enforced the limit that you announced in the TP by dropping all CIDs in excess of it?
The situation gets even worse when you assume that a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame was in flight just when the endpoint provided the new CIDs. In this situation, there's no race-condition-free view of how many CIDs the peer was actually storing, so it's not possible to know how many of the new CIDs were actually stored and how many of them might have been dropped.

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Let's say an endpoint receives a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with Sequence Number: X, Retire Prior To: M. At a later moment, it receives a (reordered) NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with Sequence Number: N (where N < M).

As the spec is currently written, it would be perfectly legal to use CID N at this moment. Obviously, this doesn't make sense, since the receiving peer is about to or has already stopped accepting packets with using CIDs < M. When receiving such a reordered NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, the reasonable thing to do is to immediately send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame for N.

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----==_mimepart_5dc2a159df4b_3c3a3fdc4f8cd9609724-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 02:47:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BC81200C7 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 02:47:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ksdRSTRrry5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 02:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B53B1200B5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 02:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.75]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833CA8C0928 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 02:47:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573037273; bh=LP60vkcx490crBJePSV3isPJNCt6B2/xTX/lPbex53A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n0LI5dc17pjJJDy3aYB5NWxQvK23oUSQtOs19hMoObkhFKJY7pE/AGWga4xRUG+37 9hLLTQ3RbfSexNLHWNQS1isMLATeRh9VW3orbLaGMpWiE0+xP9spUrXKSXnLkC5wc4 LsGjj+8imuEtNh1B903zT7l9qIamFHd5h7jKGopg= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 02:47:53 -0800 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] conflicting advice how to handle Retire Prior To (#3195) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc2a4d974ce0_30053fd00d6cd960829fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 10:47:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc2a4d974ce0_30053fd00d6cd960829fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the section talking about Connection IDs (section 5.1.2) it says: > An endpoint can cause its peer to retire connection IDs by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs and send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. In the description of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame (section 19.15) it says: > The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. [...] The peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner. So it's not clear if you just SHOULD or if you MUST send the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame. As an editorial remark, I find the existing text a bit hard to understand, since it's spread over these two sections. Maybe it would be easier to keep the frame description relatively short, and move more of the logic into the section that describes how CIDs are used and retired. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3195 ----==_mimepart_5dc2a4d974ce0_30053fd00d6cd960829fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In the section talking about Connection IDs (section 5.1.2) it says:

An endpoint can cause its peer to retire connection IDs by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs and send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.

In the description of the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame (section 19.15) it says:

The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs with a sequence number less than the specified value. [...] The peer SHOULD retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.

So it's not clear if you just SHOULD or if you MUST send the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.

As an editorial remark, I find the existing text a bit hard to understand, since it's spread over these two sections. Maybe it would be easier to keep the frame description relatively short, and move more of the logic into the section that describes how CIDs are used and retired.

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Interestingly there is work going on in this area at the IETF 106 Hackathon - https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/106hackathon/formal-languages

Specifically, from draft-macquistin-augmented-asciidiagrams-01 

   This document describes a machine-readable format for specifying the
   syntax of protocol data units within a protocol specification.  This
   format is comprised of a consistently formatted packet header
   diagram, followed by structured explanatory text.  It is designed to
   maintain human readability while enabling support for automated
   parser generation from the specification document.  This document is
   itself an example of how the format can be used.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
 The PTO value MUST be set to at least kGranularity, to avoid the timer expiring
 immediately.
 
+A sender computes its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent.
+When ack-eliciting packets are in-flight in multiple packet number spaces,
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
+except for ApplicationData, which MUST be ignored until the handshake
+completes; see Section 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Not arming the PTO for
+ApplicationData prioritizes completing the handshake and prevents the server
+from sending a 1-RTT PTO packet before it has the keys to process a 1-RTT
+packet.  This simplifies to setting the PTO on the lowest active packet number
+space if packets from two different packet number spaces are sent when the PTO
+fires.

I was thinking a Handshake packet was sent at 1, so it's my mistake. Your example is correct given you're only going to send a single QUIC packet on PTO.

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----==_mimepart_5dc2ae70c69d9_764e3fb08a2cd95c676bc-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 05:13:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B5612087E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:13:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qL44j6i2g27o for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD624120835 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88448C0C31 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:13:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573045982; bh=4Xk1Zydp70EByfSluaROO5Z+rE07a2F9WpUh+IdPlEM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2RLQVR4DjgwNK+AYzr3EZpHZAw+/niqBhdgsVWjIVytSYZbOVNdI71C55runyJu1s M88Aw44WX1nRIGStn0JlMHnOW+rOYyQXoHp0WpY1uqkHEdfN8qUm4mC7ZTaVef6ayQ uLyvXCBi6237yAfY4iNoV00haFPk7kxAJGvq1SeY= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 05:13:02 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc2c6ded6422_378e3fd4beecd95c212969"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:13:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc2c6ded6422_378e3fd4beecd95c212969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the model that @erickinnear's has described is accurate.=0D =0D At the same time, it seems alarming to me that we have failed to incorpo= rate that model into the text.=0D =0D Specifically, as @marten-seemann points out, we have the following text:=0D= > Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs and= send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.=0D =0D and FWIW also:=0D > Connection IDs that are issued and not retired are considered active; a= ny active connection ID can be used.=0D =0D that both assume that all connections IDs are expected to be retired. But= as @erickinnear points out, when the issuer provides more than what `act= ive_connection_id_limit` recommends, those connection IDs are not expecte= d to be retired.=0D =0D I'd like to point out that the way we control the active CIDs sticks out = from other "crediting schemes". For all other crediting schemes (i.e. MAX= _DATA, MAX_STREAMS, MAX_STREAM_DATA), there is a hard limit. It is a prot= ocol violation when the sender exceeds the allowed maximum. It is only fo= r this active_connection_id_limit - RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID pair that we do = not enforce the sender adhering the limit.=0D =0D Considering these aspects, and the fact that implementors are complaining= about the complexity caused by "SHOULD NOT," I think it's worth consider= ing changing the "SHOULD NOT" of "an endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more con= nection IDs than the peer=E2=80=99s limit" to "MUST NOT."=0D =0D The counterargument might be that it's an additional complexity; but I do= ubt if it's that important, compared to the importance of resolving the c= onfusion that we have now.=0D =0D As @erickinnear have stated, the issuer is excepted to stick to providing= *N* active CIDs, where N is a constant throughout the lifetime of a conn= ection. No other approach works. So the *complexity* that is to be added = by changing the "SHOULD NOT" to "MUST NOT" is that the issuer would be re= quired to set N to no greater than the value of "active_connection_id_lim= it" provided by the peer.=0D =0D I think we can pay that cost for buying a consistent design (that avoids = the confusion).=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-550302894= ----==_mimepart_5dc2c6ded6422_378e3fd4beecd95c212969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the model that @erickinnear's has described is a= ccurate.

=0D

At the same time, it seems alarming to me that we have failed to inco= rporate that model into the text.

=0D

Specifically, as @marten-seemann points out, we have = the following text:

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Upon receipt, the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs an= d send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames.

=0D
=0D

and FWIW also:

=0D
=0D

Connection IDs that are issued and not retired are considered active; = any active connection ID can be used.

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that both assume that all connections IDs are expected to be retired. = But as @erickinnear points out, when the issuer provides m= ore than what active_connection_id_limit recommends, those c= onnection IDs are not expected to be retired.

=0D

I'd like to point out that the way we control the active CIDs sticks o= ut from other "crediting schemes". For all other crediting schemes (i.e. = MAX_DATA, MAX_STREAMS, MAX_STREAM_DATA), there is a hard limit. It is a p= rotocol violation when the sender exceeds the allowed maximum. It is only= for this active_connection_id_limit - RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID pair that we = do not enforce the sender adhering the limit.

=0D

Considering these aspects, and the fact that implementors are complain= ing about the complexity caused by "SHOULD NOT," I think it's worth consi= dering changing the "SHOULD NOT" of "an endpoint SHOULD NOT provide more = connection IDs than the peer=E2=80=99s limit" to "MUST NOT."

=0D

The counterargument might be that it's an additional complexity; but I= doubt if it's that important, compared to the importance of resolving th= e confusion that we have now.

=0D

As @erickinnear have stated, the issuer is excepted to = stick to providing N active CIDs, where N is a constant througho= ut the lifetime of a connection. No other approach works. So the comp= lexity that is to be added by changing the "SHOULD NOT" to "MUST NOT= " is that the issuer would be required to set N to no greater than the va= lue of "active_connection_id_limit" provided by the peer.

=0D

I think we can pay that cost for buying a consistent design (that avoi= ds the confusion).

=0D =0D

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5dc2c6ded6422_378e3fd4beecd95c212969-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 05:42:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554D912087E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCMoqYSQjzAF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3E2B12010C for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 05:42:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 05:42:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573047751; bh=iydDzPLc95OinCvoGopsuGYEtH3OMfxE0vEOJ24CuWA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A1Nw0g8Yo3yKRQBPa8hdCTUSSSWMVXsDTL+vmXv8AzdrH49s8ilmjF7aC+ubqbmtF rSrGg8bYD/m6e6/82zbc3q4mbwSIDfkaq/7CGfpO3+krZfBoBR0jextrdwMARCRAVs Z+t/OFB+Xxo/UcdnD8fj/zObz+WvdECcbVkyRhwA= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc2cdc7782c6_5c5d3feaf6acd96c401597"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:42:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc2cdc7782c6_5c5d3feaf6acd96c401597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems like the problem we're facing here is that 3 things can happen with a new CID: 1. It is stored for later use. 2. It is retired via a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame. 3. It is silently dropped. For the endpoint providing the CIDs, 1. and 3. are indistinguishable, which might lead to a mismatching view of how many CIDs are actually active. In the extreme case, this mismatch might mean that an endpoint believes that its peer has enough CIDs available, while it actually doesn't have any CIDs besides the one it is currently using, which would then make it impossible to migrate. At the very least, the indistinguishability between 1. and 3. leads to some non-trivial reasoning about what the peer might or might not have done, if you provide more CIDs than the peer advertised at any point in the connection. I agree with @kazuho that changing the "SHOULD NOT" to a "MUST NOT" would lead to a significant simplification here, since it would eliminate 3. from the list. With that change, a newly provided CID is active until it is retired. Furthermore, I don't think that there's any additional complexity here. On the receiver side, you'll need some logic to protect against a peer that is sending too many CIDs anyway. On the sender side, limiting the number to a constant value seems a lot easier than reasoning about which CIDs might have been dropped. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-550313763 ----==_mimepart_5dc2cdc7782c6_5c5d3feaf6acd96c401597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It seems like the problem we're facing here is that 3 things can happen with a new CID:

  1. It is stored for later use.
  2. It is retired via a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.
  3. It is silently dropped.

For the endpoint providing the CIDs, 1. and 3. are indistinguishable, which might lead to a mismatching view of how many CIDs are actually active. In the extreme case, this mismatch might mean that an endpoint believes that its peer has enough CIDs available, while it actually doesn't have any CIDs besides the one it is currently using, which would then make it impossible to migrate.
At the very least, the indistinguishability between 1. and 3. leads to some non-trivial reasoning about what the peer might or might not have done, if you provide more CIDs than the peer advertised at any point in the connection.

I agree with @kazuho that changing the "SHOULD NOT" to a "MUST NOT" would lead to a significant simplification here, since it would eliminate 3. from the list. With that change, a newly provided CID is active until it is retired.

Furthermore, I don't think that there's any additional complexity here. On the receiver side, you'll need some logic to protect against a peer that is sending too many CIDs anyway. On the sender side, limiting the number to a constant value seems a lot easier than reasoning about which CIDs might have been dropped.

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@mnot :
While this indeed is not new (as in "heavily validated in the field"), we are stepping forth to provide the "last" element that you've been requesting: a manifestation of support from the industry. Here is a list of players who have expressed support so far:

  • Orange
  • Akamai
  • CNES(Satcom)
  • Telefonica
  • British Telecom
  • Microsoft
    The list is growing daily. Shipping v1 without loss observation support would undermine daily network maintenance work in at least that part of the ecosystem.

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Changing to "MUST NOT" SGTM

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I also agree that changing to a "MUST NOT" seems reasonable.

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Did a sweep before; either I missed a few, or these have crept in since.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3196

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  • Semicolons before "see {section}"

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In lots of places, you reference {{iana-policy}} for things that aren't actually described there -- it just contains a pointer to the QUIC spec for the policy. It might be better to point directly to the QUIC spec in those places. (Though given that the section number in QUIC could potentially change, it's also a reasonable argument that we want to have one place to update.) Just want to make sure that's intentional, rather than a copy-paste of the policy from the QUIC registries. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3170#pullrequestreview-312678087 ----==_mimepart_5dc31bdecc39a_14bc3fa8998cd96812565a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In lots of places, you reference {{iana-policy}} for things that aren't actually described there -- it just contains a pointer to the QUIC spec for the policy. It might be better to point directly to the QUIC spec in those places. (Though given that the section number in QUIC could potentially change, it's also a reasonable argument that we want to have one place to update.) Just want to make sure that's intentional, rather than a copy-paste of the policy from the QUIC registries.

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----==_mimepart_5dc31bdecc39a_14bc3fa8998cd96812565a-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 11:20:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24886120044 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:20:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JSr93OVgt60E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C851F120024 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F005211AF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:20:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573068030; bh=dunMYFVywYRx2hWe2rydkJVvufxrNiaPf3ZFJ555s2M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RCoZGVmOQA1mgCY2ZfEstcOSWeDYjsiiYoH+1/kDQLgBZw/aGKlu1o6NaNfPOoWSt iPjuQACGQPZBFF+KuQak7YJrol3f1tZPXEtzrb5P5uvyZtQQX1Mj54vfguflJQBl5Z hUZkdoIZVZj6ncsTnGpYnGl/un8Le1QNLDZKzNiY= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 11:20:29 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] conflicting advice how to handle Retire Prior To (#3195) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc31cfdec63b_37163f8335ccd95c179871"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:20:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc31cfdec63b_37163f8335ccd95c179871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think what we concluded in previous discussion was that you MUST retire them, and SHOULD do so in a timely manner. The suggested reorganization isn't a bad suggestion either. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3195#issuecomment-550460829 ----==_mimepart_5dc31cfdec63b_37163f8335ccd95c179871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think what we concluded in previous discussion was that you MUST retire them, and SHOULD do so in a timely manner. The suggested reorganization isn't a bad suggestion either.

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----==_mimepart_5dc31cfdec63b_37163f8335ccd95c179871-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 11:23:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4F71208B6 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VbtTzpyH24q5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC9B3120886 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 11:22:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 11:22:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573068164; bh=KuGb1Qnp6PQ3jPzzomRFJ3kGNAJFBNtjjWT0dWgY0T8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NPvaE2kc7BNP/jYJBrQ4Tsdbb7d+DWLC+l4hHTzUQ3deorr7bwxxL+67hNfL2BxsI mUquOrQEEjsBsAJUat4lT0hNE7qnwpMatPTfg3RWXp6LuUenzdK9wa0JbaQKLEmehc hwF6scNpzE5BIlktDcKkpCCTPmY2nS78Kl3Xbwqs= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow provisional registrations for all registries (#3170) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc31d848dcdc_5bc83fe2b80cd96c9953"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:22:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc31d848dcdc_5bc83fe2b80cd96c9953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request. > +Permanent registrations in QUIC registries require Specification Required policy +{{!RFC8126}}, unless otherwise specified. The designated expert(s) verify that +a specification exists and is readily accessible. Expert(s) are encouraged to +be biased towards approving registrations unless they are abusive, frivolous, or +actively harmful (not merely aesthetically displeasing, or architecturally +dubious). The creation of a registry MAY specify additional constraints on +permanent registrations. + +The creation of a registries MAY identify a range of codepoints where +registrations are governed by a different registration policy. For instance, +the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricted policies for +codepoints in the range from 0 to 63. + +Any stricter requirements for permanent registrations do not prevent provisional +registrations for affected codepoints. For instance, a provisional registration +for a frame type {{iana-frames}} of 61 could be requested. I fear that ejecting won't always be possible if the provisional code point is widely used. I think disallowing provisional for [0, 63] might be best. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3170#discussion_r343281425 ----==_mimepart_5dc31d848dcdc_5bc83fe2b80cd96c9953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Permanent registrations in QUIC registries require Specification Required policy
+{{!RFC8126}}, unless otherwise specified.  The designated expert(s) verify that
+a specification exists and is readily accessible.  Expert(s) are encouraged to
+be biased towards approving registrations unless they are abusive, frivolous, or
+actively harmful (not merely aesthetically displeasing, or architecturally
+dubious).  The creation of a registry MAY specify additional constraints on
+permanent registrations.
+
+The creation of a registries MAY identify a range of codepoints where
+registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
+the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricted policies for
+codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+
+Any stricter requirements for permanent registrations do not prevent provisional
+registrations for affected codepoints.  For instance, a provisional registration
+for a frame type {{iana-frames}} of 61 could be requested.

I fear that ejecting won't always be possible if the provisional code point is widely used. I think disallowing provisional for [0, 63] might be best.

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I think a MUST NOT is reasonable; there was considerable pushback in Tokyo for reasons I don't remember clearly. I don't think you can get out of sync provided the TP is at least 2.

The other possibility, as an implementation, is to track which IDs you've retired/forgotten. Obviously, the point of not keeping all the CIDs is to reduce the memory consumption and this still requires keeping some memory. But it's worth pointing out that you don't actually need to have the CID in hand in order to promise you'll never use it again.

For that matter, a naive implementation that wants to save memory at the cost of bytes could retire every CID sequence number up to RPT upon receipt of an increase RPT value, whether it has previously retired it or not.

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The implication, of course, is that 0 => infinite, but we don't actually say that anywhere. (This part might be editorial; it omits to say what we all know it means.)

1 is also a mostly-invalid value, since you can't avoid exceeding that limit without the peer dropping to zero CIDs in the interim and therefore stalling the connection for an RTT + any recovery time needed.

This is fine, really, so long as the peer SHOULD NOT exceed the limit; if you send (or default to) a stupid value, the peer will ignore you and all is well. But if we take #3193's suggestion that exceeding the limit be a MUST NOT, the default needs to be infinite and values less than 2 need to be prohibited.

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----==_mimepart_5dc321d59f0a3_73ca3fd2afacd96c206155-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 12:06:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5361B1200A4 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nLpY-iJ-LKsA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E728F120072 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE86961E88 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:06:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573070808; bh=rNxgOoNDysvs0s+9PCuQKWPdiQFjmFXQuSpnF4ms/xg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=avxiG/TZNh2aF2iFIu9o5laOsVHk8N3ioWSQoDO0rk4izIzEEh/Y3JD7rQIzghZf6 YlPRs6mqfBHl+YggoQcIw3ljPMsVp21d0Wv3mlkgBodNoHA7P5DE0QYU0tCB4ULiQu cwRx+nMsc4zMWtJaJdMR25fejzJhyok07RcPAhyo= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:06:48 -0800 From: Brian Trammell Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC lacks on-path exposure of packet loss (#3189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc327d8c0369_51373f93a56cd96414458a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: britram X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:06:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc327d8c0369_51373f93a56cd96414458a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (For the record, despite the length of the following comment, as the repo= rter of #632, let me reiterate that I accept the WG consensus on its clos= ure. But this thread caught my attention because it is relevant to my int= erests.) I'm supportive of the goal of this work - actionable measurability is a k= ey property for any transport protocol traversing networks that might occ= asionally break - but it seems to me we're conflating three questions her= e: - The requirement to determine and localize loss in a network through pur= ely passive measurement (i.e., without resorting to encapsulation-based m= ethods, for which e.g. the IOAM work in IPPM would be more appropriate; o= r just pinging the hell out of everything, which is certainly a common cu= rrent practice if not a best one). = - The requirement to support this loss measurement via bits in the transp= ort protocol header. = - The suitability of the particular mechanism defined in https://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ferrieuxhamchaoui-quic-lossbits/ to address these = requirements. = To the first question, I managed to convince myself a while ago that loss= at the transport layer is overrated as a metric due to the vagaries of c= ongestion control in the pre-ECN world we inhabit: while the lost packets= are the actionable-for-the-operator cause of performance issues, it's th= e reaction of the transport that is interesting to the endpoint users and= therefore likely to annoy the customers -- or in other words, if a packe= t is lost in the woods and there is nobody to NACK it because it was appl= ication-irrelevant, did it make a sound? I clearly haven't convinced anyo= ne else, though, there is a lot of common understanding of what loss mean= s as a metric, and the actions taken in response to that loss do correlat= e with better user experience, so okay, let's stick with the metric we th= ink we know. To the second question, as a proponent of the spin bit, I'm obviously a f= an of this general class of approaches, given that it was not possible to= come to consensus that the IETF should define a common wire image for tr= ansports carried over UDP, which IMO would have been a preferable archite= cture. To the third question, I am delighted to see that there is a proof of con= cept showing that this approach works. Running code is great. :) = I would repeat @DavidSchinazi's point, though, that the privacy implicati= ons of this particular mechanism would need to be clarified. The same app= roach as was followed with the spin bit privacy design team -- determinin= g the space of metrics exposed by the signal, then showing that the margi= nal privacy risk of exposing those metrics compared to the information av= ailable in a version of the protocol without the signal was acceptable --= would work here, but I don't see that that analysis has been done. As on= e of the people driving the effort on the spin bit analysis, I can say it= was a little more than a PAM paper's worth of work. I'm also not convinced it's the best use of the two bits it wants to allo= cate. The spin bit, you may recall, was defined in the [IMC paper](https:= //mami-project.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/spinbit.pdf) we published to= explore its properties as a three bit signal, and the consensus of the w= orking group was that the two bits in the VEC (valid edge counter) could = be replaced with better heuristics for bad edge rejection at the measurem= ent analysis point (and shifting the burden to the measurement point, as = removing the VEC did, is just [good engineering](https://arxiv.org/pdf/16= 12.02902v1.pdf), considering the relative numbers of endpoints and measur= ement points in the Internet). I don't see any analysis done of how well = the proposed signal would work, say, if one dropped Q and just used L (or= vice versa), or the impact of alternate semantics for L. I haven't done = the work (and sadly, my cycles for doing exploratory measurement design a= in't what they used to be, so I probably won't do the work), but I suspec= t a slight redefinition of L to bring its semantics closer to CWR in TCP+= ECN would provide comparable metric fidelity to the proposal here at the = cost of slightly more measurement-point complexity and one fewer header b= it. I'm a little skeptical that we can come to convergence on the privacy-imp= lications question and the alternate-signal-fitness question in a timefra= me that is reasonable for the WG to ship version 1 of the protocol. From = my own personal experience, these two questions took about a year of cale= ndar time to answer satisfactorily for the spin bit. -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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(For the record, despite the length of the following comment, as the r= eporter of #632, let me reiterate that I accept the WG consensus = on its closure. But this thread caught my attention because it is relevan= t to my interests.)

I'm supportive of the goal of this work - actionable measurability is = a key property for any transport protocol traversing networks that might = occasionally break - but it seems to me we're conflating three questions = here:

  • The requirement to determine and localize loss in a network through p= urely passive measurement (i.e., without resorting to encapsulation-based= methods, for which e.g. the IOAM work in IPPM would be more appropriate;= or just pinging the hell out of everything, which is certainly a common = current practice if not a best one).
  • The requirement to support this loss measurement via bits in the tran= sport protocol header.
  • The suitability of the particular mechanism defined in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ferrieuxhamchaoui-qu= ic-lossbits/ to address these requirements.

To the first question, I managed to convince myself a while ago that l= oss at the transport layer is overrated as a metric due to the vagaries o= f congestion control in the pre-ECN world we inhabit: while the lost pack= ets are the actionable-for-the-operator cause of performance issues, it's= the reaction of the transport that is interesting to the endpoint users = and therefore likely to annoy the customers -- or in other words, if a pa= cket is lost in the woods and there is nobody to NACK it because it was a= pplication-irrelevant, did it make a sound? I clearly haven't convinced a= nyone else, though, there is a lot of common understanding of what loss m= eans as a metric, and the actions taken in response to that loss do corre= late with better user experience, so okay, let's stick with the metric we= think we know.

To the second question, as a proponent of the spin bit, I'm obviously = a fan of this general class of approaches, given that it was not possible= to come to consensus that the IETF should define a common wire image for= transports carried over UDP, which IMO would have been a preferable arch= itecture.

To the third question, I am delighted to see that there is a proof of = concept showing that this approach works. Running code is great. :)

I would repeat @DavidSchinazi's point, though, that th= e privacy implications of this particular mechanism would need to be clar= ified. The same approach as was followed with the spin bit privacy design= team -- determining the space of metrics exposed by the signal, then sho= wing that the marginal privacy risk of exposing those metrics compared to= the information available in a version of the protocol without the signa= l was acceptable -- would work here, but I don't see that that analysis h= as been done. As one of the people driving the effort on the spin bit ana= lysis, I can say it was a little more than a PAM paper's worth of work.

I'm also not convinced it's the best use of the two bits it wants to a= llocate. The spin bit, you may recall, was defined in the IMC paper we published to explore its properties as a three bit s= ignal, and the consensus of the working group was that the two bits in th= e VEC (valid edge counter) could be replaced with better heuristics for b= ad edge rejection at the measurement analysis point (and shifting the bur= den to the measurement point, as removing the VEC did, is just good engineerin= g, considering the relative numbers of endpoints and measurement poin= ts in the Internet). I don't see any analysis done of how well the propos= ed signal would work, say, if one dropped Q and just used L (or vice vers= a), or the impact of alternate semantics for L. I haven't done the work (= and sadly, my cycles for doing exploratory measurement design ain't what = they used to be, so I probably won't do the work), but I suspect a slight= redefinition of L to bring its semantics closer to CWR in TCP+ECN would = provide comparable metric fidelity to the proposal here at the cost of sl= ightly more measurement-point complexity and one fewer header bit.

I'm a little skeptical that we can come to convergence on the privacy-= implications question and the alternate-signal-fitness question in a time= frame that is reasonable for the WG to ship version 1 of the protocol. Fr= om my own personal experience, these two questions took about a year of c= alendar time to answer satisfactorily for the spin bit.

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@britram:

Re "okay, let's stick with the metric we know": there is a bit more do be said. In real-world, heterogeneous/not-too-modern networks, we are essentially stuck in a pre-ECN world; there, even the smartest of congestion control algorithms must end up interpreting some loss patterns as congestion, and sometimes, wrongly.

Re privacy analysis: indeed this is what we are explicitly asking for. But using the Spin Bit as a reference to infer the amount of work needed is not really appropriate I think, as the very nature of the exposed signal is entirely different.

Re using the bits differently: you'll surely remember that, as an early admirer of the sheer beauty of the VEC, I certainly have no preconceptions against the principle. However:

  1. As Marcus' research showed, it turns out that observer-side denoising does the job reasonably well, with a definition of "reasonably" that led to the current consensus, a one-bit Spin Bit.

  2. Firsthand experience with debugging in the aforementioned real-life networks in several countries and varied multi-stakeholder scenarii tells that loss is much harder to locate than latency (see this Issue's introductory text for details).

  3. No, dropping one of the bits is not an option: the key feature of the method is dichotomy, meaning we need to somehow convey measurements about either side of the observer. And any ECN-based "trick" to emulate Q and carry only L is, again, predicated on the availability of ECN-capable layer 3 on the uninterrupted path.

As a result, I believe that the Spin+Q+L combination is, given a 3-bit budget, the best compromise to support network troubleshooting.

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----==_mimepart_5dc331ed43ce6_42993fb19c8cd95c879e3-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 12:55:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA48E1200A4 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:55:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b8t_s2yqJHor for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA83C120072 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3020660C4E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 12:55:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573073746; bh=+bKb6heeHtB5rWPPX2w0GagwNvcTYtYH3uWg8xU+YTk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SxSGKIat30hQRoq5xz3KTNYhnjJ7IanYPbK2QmC4bsS3iiAcrBP2KOU7f+k2viCdZ mX0oB4C9acRRjzO5YrE7SI0H0ofYFUOC9u0lgsJmeM7iGBQmwElhLYZkdpDv2ncQaG iw0eXgcq5CsJL9QhqE/o3j0yM4CfmESyhKKKgRLw= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 12:55:46 -0800 From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 is lacking priorities (#3198) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc33352d2b76_252b3f9bd70cd96c1126ed"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:55:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc33352d2b76_252b3f9bd70cd96c1126ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since HTTP/3 is a multiplexed protocol (just as HTTP/2 was) a sender which is servicing multiple requests needs some way to decide which request to send data on. HTTP/2 used a ... baroque ... prioritization scheme that this working groups has decided (rightly, IMO) is a poor fit for HTTP/3. Before shipping HTTP/3 we should settle on some prioritization mechanism for HTTP/3. (Possible a very simple scheme with the opportunity for extensions to provide more sophisticated schemes.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3198 ----==_mimepart_5dc33352d2b76_252b3f9bd70cd96c1126ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Since HTTP/3 is a multiplexed protocol (just as HTTP/2 was) a sender which is servicing multiple requests needs some way to decide which request to send data on. HTTP/2 used a ... baroque ... prioritization scheme that this working groups has decided (rightly, IMO) is a poor fit for HTTP/3. Before shipping HTTP/3 we should settle on some prioritization mechanism for HTTP/3. (Possible a very simple scheme with the opportunity for extensions to provide more sophisticated schemes.)

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There were
already four sentences starting with "Note that" throughout the draft
before this PR (now there are six)....

Thanks for pointing out one of my main writing tics. The other is overuse of em-dashes.

Did #3172 address your concerns here? If not, you may need to rebase and resolve the conflicts.

The Note Bence improved is unnecessary and gone now, but I think Bence's other changes are orthogonal to #3172 and worth keeping.

Thanks. I rebased and rephrased as necessary.

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Correction: HTTP/3 lacks a means of signaling priority. That distinction gets lost too often here.

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----==_mimepart_5dc337ccadafc_4b553f8d72ccd960512d6-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 13:52:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F51C120145 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:52:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XBHXFYBMRRuQ for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE86C12002F for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DF8C60EC2 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:52:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573077131; bh=sJiQPLE9Ns2BXqWLH7HvnZxrwULvZpymNnT2sCPJMVA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TfoZ592WeZ5TV5pVfIyoPwOpGFVUdCJBnct6V6JO8nMVIsaxQuG3ibY0yNVuFWWoV R0KNX2+o/36Cb3ysFGV9duMeodDV3gRAdM45e8TOhr/GkeXswDfKPlOcffXg3hH8yz bWJklhY2bEmM+sCHbFKxnUm7XWWm2ETpz2f43bgo= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:52:11 -0800 From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 is lacking priorities (#3198) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc3408b36b4_42fa3fa7d88cd95c49387"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 21:52:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc3408b36b4_42fa3fa7d88cd95c49387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, HTTP/3 the specification lack priorities in any form whatsoever :) But yes, you're totally right that an HTTP/3 endpoint implementation can do prioritization based on locally available information. What is lacking is a way for and endpoint to provide information to the peer to facilitate the prioritization. I'll be interested to see what sort of normative language we end up with for how an endpoint is required (or not) to act on this information. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3198#issuecomment-550516922 ----==_mimepart_5dc3408b36b4_42fa3fa7d88cd95c49387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, HTTP/3 the specification lack priorities in any form whatsoever :)

But yes, you're totally right that an HTTP/3 endpoint implementation can do prioritization based on locally available information. What is lacking is a way for and endpoint to provide information to the peer to facilitate the prioritization.

I'll be interested to see what sort of normative language we end up with for how an endpoint is required (or not) to act on this information.

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I'm locking this issue until we determine it's in-scope for the WG.

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Request order is an implicit signal. In the absence of anything else I would borrow the text from RFC 7540

... input to a prioritization process.  It does not guarantee any particular processing or transmission order for the stream relative to any other stream.  An endpoint cannot force a peer to process concurrent streams in a particular order...

As discussed elsewhere, a sane default recommendation for servers based on request order might be useful.

But I hope we as a group can come up with a slightly better more complete answer.

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(Design issue please.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Permanent registrations in QUIC registries require Specification Required policy
+{{!RFC8126}}, unless otherwise specified.  The designated expert(s) verify that
+a specification exists and is readily accessible.  Expert(s) are encouraged to
+be biased towards approving registrations unless they are abusive, frivolous, or
+actively harmful (not merely aesthetically displeasing, or architecturally
+dubious).  The creation of a registry MAY specify additional constraints on
+permanent registrations.
+
+The creation of a registries MAY identify a range of codepoints where
+registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
+the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricted policies for
+codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+
+Any stricter requirements for permanent registrations do not prevent provisional
+registrations for affected codepoints.  For instance, a provisional registration
+for a frame type {{iana-frames}} of 61 could be requested.

We're talking about abuse now. Those same people could just deploy in this space without creating a registration.

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----==_mimepart_5dc353c2add49_60223fdb60ecd96888799-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 15:15:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB2D120052 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lzCu0punkaad for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4016120180 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:15:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A68520551 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 15:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573082101; bh=DtUM1GMwAKm2U4TIhgOzvcvJtNXuDnXkF8G6LQCoDVo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wfABUnFPTiT+FkyRtfmiyExW7XFY4Ns7a/bk58OqB7iGAe0FWadtWhiw8+otd6Is3 Q4z7KADUmDpW+MjNoDntaadYETrhKgNif9/WQWzKcx523uWsRoA9rObqqtnciIGg5T 6398k7fCKwqtKHiWoJjx2qu9Yz52W0/r4Vfe2fcU= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 15:15:00 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow provisional registrations for all registries (#3170) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc353f4eaf18_1fe33fe16e8cd964107957"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:15:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc353f4eaf18_1fe33fe16e8cd964107957 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did that intentionally, mostly just to avoid the wordy reference. I'm happy to defer to you on that. (Julian can say "told you so" again if he likes :) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3170#issuecomment-550544414 ----==_mimepart_5dc353f4eaf18_1fe33fe16e8cd964107957 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I did that intentionally, mostly just to avoid the wordy reference. I'm happy to defer to you on that. (Julian can say "told you so" again if he likes :)

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----==_mimepart_5dc353f4eaf18_1fe33fe16e8cd964107957-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 16:22:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8AF12004A for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:22:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5LkD39NkrbJ for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32FC8120025 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCF252041D for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:22:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573086132; bh=F7u5+2gCom3oj5wFCtufrkPe6w9BZwBc4RafvmIMYXY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QNjBgZ0gRDYnhG+VgJd5ZzdlwbNSpwgcumImECjxpxq2187YeiDUPGUInyp8yQgz2 nvq8rseLYVmzTBBpi70lK+3wMpm2PSOEEE/BW5ZSJa+0EtBNx69wYzMkFamgbVFsAB y1EX0d/uQGhWHnydIoNeiPgtgUFpHFmLcIEOTCVg= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 16:22:12 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ChaCha20 header protection sample (#3199) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc363b46e37b_54af3fe4c20cd960143893"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 00:22:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc363b46e37b_54af3fe4c20cd960143893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The sample taken for header protection is interpreted differently in DTLS 1.3. QUIC uses `counter||nonce`, DTLS 1.3 uses `nonce||counter`. That difference is likely to cause problems unless we erase it. It's possible that the DTLS ordering is the right one here, but we should make a conscious decision. See tlswg/dtls13-spec#109. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3199 ----==_mimepart_5dc363b46e37b_54af3fe4c20cd960143893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The sample taken for header protection is interpreted differently in DTLS 1.3. QUIC uses counter||nonce, DTLS 1.3 uses nonce||counter.

That difference is likely to cause problems unless we erase it. It's possible that the DTLS ordering is the right one here, but we should make a conscious decision.

See tlswg/dtls13-spec#109.

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Since QUIC is secure?

  1. Will we need WebSite Certificates?
  2. Will we be able to use HTTP:// and still be secure on QUIC?
  3. Will we still use HTTPS:// or will there be a QUIC://?
  4. will QUIC put and end to Man-in-the-Middle attacks?
  5. Can we secure emails and other communications over QUIC?
    Thanks.

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----==_mimepart_5dc367a190ca5_ec63fbcfb2cd95c1220fd-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 16:45:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C5712013D for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:45:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Aln0i2IBkqy for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC205120045 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:45:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 16:45:41 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573087542; bh=XbhuXwdOjr2yHwvePa2uiYe8UGrfjwoLl7WC4jB+ttE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TZQig0k1J665+fz2hkg+ua3/3JtevFM3OVmsbelBWIisb82qpkqasMmktvtsKoj2u xOjDI6cTQV9IXOm5mgqgCOgCXSM8k7Z3Vb6v02e8DUSRAs3iF0rDY4YU0vzfSwpb1T Py8V1bW45FKE/mHyRiDG3W62g4Nlem7Fp8viIFEw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ChaCha20 header protection sample (#3199) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc36935ecffa_4c9d3f9df7ccd95c183612"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 00:45:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc36935ecffa_4c9d3f9df7ccd95c183612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not have a strong opinion here, though I might point out that [RFC 7539 section 2.3](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7539#section-2.3) states: ``` o Word 12 is a block counter. Since each block is 64-byte, a 32-bit word is enough for 256 gigabytes of data. o Words 13-15 are a nonce, which should not be repeated for the same key. The 13th word is the first 32 bits of the input nonce taken as a little-endian integer, while the 15th word is the last 32 bits. ``` Retaining this order (i.e. `counter||nonce`) might be helpful to certain implementations. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3199#issuecomment-550567909 ----==_mimepart_5dc36935ecffa_4c9d3f9df7ccd95c183612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I do not have a strong opinion here, though I might point out that RFC 7539 section 2.3 states:

   o  Word 12 is a block counter.  Since each block is 64-byte, a 32-bit
      word is enough for 256 gigabytes of data.

   o  Words 13-15 are a nonce, which should not be repeated for the same
      key.  The 13th word is the first 32 bits of the input nonce taken
      as a little-endian integer, while the 15th word is the last 32
      bits.

Retaining this order (i.e. counter||nonce) might be helpful to certain implementations.

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This is what motivated the order that is in QUIC, yes. But the construction of AES-GCM puts the counter second. And here I thought that we were free of endianness issues.

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----==_mimepart_5dc36b87b0be5_4c863f81cd0cd968174440-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 16:57:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFBA120045 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:57:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SNHEnKbVOw_D for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E58C120233 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:57:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 16:57:47 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573088267; bh=R9DZwG9jZdcqlzVqJD5vOvUNZ2ZrVvkvOnqDk7o29Pw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QszHHWYrIb+ApFd5Tt3bXBnN9EodD2+QVHeOc+QS0Ia9l22KJxb/G63H46J3biAdt VXV/jFCnICp7KZTzAaORdQqSw/jsv8NAoGZ7BljGPJA+0HWzGtM6NalDRqCteM8mGn SQQdNxNDYaVucUjbzK6xRvMj2zWxFgWSQskm46AE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] conflicting advice how to handle Retire Prior To (#3195) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc36c0b8b1e4_7b023fd15f6cd96c1687bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 00:57:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc36c0b8b1e4_7b023fd15f6cd96c1687bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on this feedback, this can probably be handled as an editorial matter. I would be happy to receive a PR that reconciled this with [the agreed conclusion](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3195#issuecomment-550460829). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3195#issuecomment-550570713 ----==_mimepart_5dc36c0b8b1e4_7b023fd15f6cd96c1687bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Based on this feedback, this can probably be handled as an editorial matter. I would be happy to receive a PR that reconciled this with the agreed conclusion.

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----==_mimepart_5dc36c0b8b1e4_7b023fd15f6cd96c1687bb-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 17:22:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B31B1208C6 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 17:21:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZAAnGO443kLS for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 17:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D84021208E2 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 17:21:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 17:21:54 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573089714; bh=bweR8FSXsI1Uc/d+fRqOb4m9uW2Zzhc5WnHdurbJakw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dJ71XMVqiElNWlZtjb4a2rA2b9xxKKsPcGyuN8BFGvzOjifDQWef/tgVbJ4p15z7S m3wuRc7q3PDilakop/6KdNZLTFN6ePV6DyDrEVyI7MuE66l7gezcdFuklbIIFjbAwV aXCgFblHj5XzmkcWOBFaChBbH2ZBLUO9prbuVD4E= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Definition of "active connection ID" is misleading (or the name is) (#3200) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc371b239b2b_b8d3fe6d42cd968303755"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 01:22:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc371b239b2b_b8d3fe6d42cd968303755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In [section 5.1.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transpo= rt.html#rfc.section.5.1.1), we state that:=0D > An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of avai= lable and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs = for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willin= g to store with the active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An en= dpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs than the peer=E2=80=99s lim= it.=0D > =0D > An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet= with a previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unl= ess providing the new connection ID would exceed the peer=E2=80=99s limit= .=0D =0D I think that these are correct. However, we also state:=0D > Connection IDs that are issued and not retired are considered active; a= ny active connection ID can be used.=0D =0D I think this is incorrect. This should instead state that "Connection IDs= that are **unused and** not retired are considered active, ..."=0D =0D That said, I think the name is confusing, as it is awkward to argue that = the connection ID that is currently used is "active."=0D =0D Maybe we should rename the parameter to something like "spare_connection_= id_limit."=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3200= ----==_mimepart_5dc371b239b2b_b8d3fe6d42cd968303755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In section 5.1.1, we state tha= t:

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An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of ava= ilable and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs= for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willi= ng to store with the active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An e= ndpoint SHOULD NOT provide more connection IDs than the peer=E2=80=99s li= mit.

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An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packe= t with a previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, un= less providing the new connection ID would exceed the peer=E2=80=99s limi= t.

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I think that these are correct. However, we also state:

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Connection IDs that are issued and not retired are considered active; = any active connection ID can be used.

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I think this is incorrect. This should instead state that "Connection = IDs that are unused and not retired are considered activ= e, ..."

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That said, I think the name is confusing, as it is awkward to argue th= at the connection ID that is currently used is "active."

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Maybe we should rename the parameter to something like "spare_connecti= on_id_limit."

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Though we do not use AES-GCM for header protection. That said, I can see your argument that we tend to favor having the nonce first.

So to me it seems the question is if we should have a generic design for using stream ciphers for header protection, or if we should let each stream cipher have its own.

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Oh, I'm not arguing for the DTLS approach, only pointing out that it is rational when taken from a certain perspective. I'd be happy if QUIC didn't need to change. @davidben tends to favour the QUIC ordering also, FWIW.

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Isn't it impossible to agree on whether a given connection ID was used? In particular, connection IDs sent on unusable paths won't be received by the issuer to allow them to know that they a no longer unused.

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----==_mimepart_5dc378b044ead_6d053fcc42ecd96817343b-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 18:11:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2931200C3 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:11:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oR4URtCRxvo8 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A48312008F for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:11:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:11:06 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573092666; bh=cio44xqf7e2b3v9Xdjgklr+xKxPqSon0Sn0x48vnmCI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UOoM+1vgd4gnMG9Js/HOOydmoGmFDjdNmlQJOhHKStrlnG5NF6b5g3z/gshyYS4oe ZaIO6gJCNIx4gpaTSvvnphdcwA/LfdUk5MjyHSexeewxJRuNLRUAtADvUtS8pRAE1n WyNi0NtkZ4KU1htdAJO8Nlbxg7u4eRvMSAdoCQs0= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc37d3a22c17_462d3fe8682cd964320752"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 02:11:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc37d3a22c17_462d3fe8682cd964320752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I definitely agree that it could cut down a lot of complexity to change from SHOULD NOT -> MUST NOT, although we probably should check the minutes from Tokyo about why we didn't want that at the time. @marten-seemann, for: > it's not possible to know how many of the new CIDs were actually stored and how many of them might have been dropped. I can see where it might be irritating to not know a precise count here, but I'm not sure the two sides actually need to be in sync about that. @MikeBishop's point about being able to retire CIDs that you've forgotten is well taken, although it does run the risk that you'll get a replacement (although maybe you drop that too?). I think @kazuho's argument that changing to a MUST NOT would bring us in line with the other crediting schemes makes a lot of sense, and it would bring us to a much nicer interaction model -- you ask for whatever you want, the peer gives that many to you. (Can they still give you fewer? I think the answer has to be yes, if it's costly to generate and maintain, then the issuer should control that.) I think it would drastically simplify if we made this MUST NOT. Happy to send a PR for that. Do we want a protocol violation if exceeded? We will likely need #3197 too along with this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-550587584 ----==_mimepart_5dc37d3a22c17_462d3fe8682cd964320752 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I definitely agree that it could cut down a lot of complexity to change from SHOULD NOT -> MUST NOT, although we probably should check the minutes from Tokyo about why we didn't want that at the time.

@marten-seemann, for:

it's not possible to know how many of the new CIDs were actually stored and how many of them might have been dropped.
I can see where it might be irritating to not know a precise count here, but I'm not sure the two sides actually need to be in sync about that.

@MikeBishop's point about being able to retire CIDs that you've forgotten is well taken, although it does run the risk that you'll get a replacement (although maybe you drop that too?).

I think @kazuho's argument that changing to a MUST NOT would bring us in line with the other crediting schemes makes a lot of sense, and it would bring us to a much nicer interaction model -- you ask for whatever you want, the peer gives that many to you. (Can they still give you fewer? I think the answer has to be yes, if it's costly to generate and maintain, then the issuer should control that.)

I think it would drastically simplify if we made this MUST NOT. Happy to send a PR for that.
Do we want a protocol violation if exceeded? We will likely need #3197 too along with this.

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Fixes #3193.

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  • forbid exceeding the peer's active_connection_id_limit
  • add an error code for exceeding the connection ID limit

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Fixes #3194.

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The implication, of course, is that 0 => infinite, but we don't actually say that anywhere. (This part might be editorial; it omits to say what we all know it means.)

1 is also a mostly-invalid value, since you can't avoid exceeding that limit without the peer dropping to zero CIDs in the interim and therefore stalling the connection for an RTT + any recovery time needed.

I am literally not sure if this is the case.

As I've pointed out in #3200, the normative language suggests that active_connection_id_limit actually means the number of "spare" CIDs that should be available, though the definition of "active connection ID" is defined differently.

If we are to consider the normative language as being correct, it would be totally valid to set active_connection_id_limit to 1 (i.e. I want one spare CID!), or 0 (i.e. I do not want any).

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Isn't it impossible to agree on whether a given connection ID was used?

I hastily reused the term "unused" from the other text quoted above. So please interpret "unused" as "until receiving a packet with a previously unused connection ID."

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FWIW, the alternative approach (that could better match people's intuition) would be to retain the definition of "active connection IDs" as connection IDs that are issued and not retired are considered active, and change the normative texts.

Actually, I think that might be a better choice, due to the following two reasons:

  • Current text requires you to issue new CIDs under two conditions; i.e., when receiving a packet carrying a previously unused CID, or when receiving RETIRE_CID. We can get rid of the former.
  • Current design has a potential DoS vector that could lead to memory exhaustion on the CID issuer. This is because the number of CIDs that the current text recommends an endpoint to retain is active_connection_id_limit + number_of_CIDs_in_use. The number of CIDs in use is something that the consumer of CIDs controls. Changing the number of CIDs to be retained to just the value of active_connection_id_limit eliminates that attack vector.

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----==_mimepart_5dc383e46cd44_6aa23fb7c8acd9643222df-- From nobody Wed Nov 6 18:40:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E090120123 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:40:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ygqGZ-Hwflp for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BEC712008F for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9335B8C0035 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:40:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573094441; bh=yyk/FBnDyhBLVW0ZKAUOEXmJds4MRP7npqFrquMVe2s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c0pTOaN9+/OBxNm+Y1Qad2SLh6k4T+/IWIusbhNx6bqBVslc8cq+c/vnsD5crPrTJ u8w7HFC0FavhMGjYuDKGDkV0Lmf/NXf0+uRIG1YsMa5yzotyGcbj7YH2HUe4oqtE9z yryut7G0U7pM7aJMW/59qcO5qbFNdhLvH2Qs12b4= Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:40:41 -0800 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit defaults to 0 (#3197) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc3842983f58_76523fad258cd964640018"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 02:40:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc3842983f58_76523fad258cd964640018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The definition of the transport parameter says: > The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. So sending a value of 0 (or, as it currently stands, omitting the TP), is a valid thing to do. It's an endpoint declaring that it will never, under no circumstances, change the connection ID, but to keep on using the connection ID provided during the handshake. Of course this also implies that connection migration is effectively disabled. We might want to decide to make this illegal though. Since the introduction of the Retire Prior To field on the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, implementations have the option to retire connection IDs in case their infrastructure requires that. A peer sending a value of 0 would prevent those implementations from rotating their connection ID mapping, which seems like an awkward special case. As @MikeBishop points out, sending a value of 1 doesn't make any sense, since you can't switch to a new CID without stalling the connection first. Therefore, I agree with @MikeBishop's suggestion to forbid values below 2. I'm undecided if we should define a default value, and if so, what that value should be. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3197#issuecomment-550594525 ----==_mimepart_5dc3842983f58_76523fad258cd964640018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The definition of the transport parameter says:

The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames.

So sending a value of 0 (or, as it currently stands, omitting the TP), is a valid thing to do. It's an endpoint declaring that it will never, under no circumstances, change the connection ID, but to keep on using the connection ID provided during the handshake. Of course this also implies that connection migration is effectively disabled.
We might want to decide to make this illegal though. Since the introduction of the Retire Prior To field on the NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame, implementations have the option to retire connection IDs in case their infrastructure requires that. A peer sending a value of 0 would prevent those implementations from rotating their connection ID mapping, which seems like an awkward special case.

As @MikeBishop points out, sending a value of 1 doesn't make any sense, since you can't switch to a new CID without stalling the connection first.

Therefore, I agree with @MikeBishop's suggestion to forbid values below 2. I'm undecided if we should define a default value, and if so, what that value should be.

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Not exactly the place for this question.

QUIC uses TLS, so you'll need a certificate to terminate a QUIC connection. If a browser implements the mechanism to upgrade http:// URLs to TLS [RFC8164], it could do the same to upgrade to QUIC; I'm not aware that any do. QUIC will not be a separate scheme. QUIC will detect all the same MitM attacks that TLS does; if you trust a malicious root cert, nothing will help you. QUIC is a transport, so it could be used for other application-level protocols in the future if those protocol mappings are defined.

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It might be cleaner to say that when you receive RPT, you need to retire the indicated sequence numbers even if you haven't received them yet. Then you can just discard the NCID frames upon arrival.

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@MikeBishop requested changes on this pull request.

I think we need to fix #3197 at the same time, or this creates broken corner-cases.

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Since there's two NCID frames being referenced here.

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@MikeBishop That brings with it a request to replace them, which could get a little messy if I sent RPT of 10000, it seems like it would cut down on useless traffic if we didn't generate the RCID frames until someone actually tries to use them?

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----==_mimepart_5dc466b8cf8e8_695f3f8e820cd96046973-- From nobody Thu Nov 7 11:35:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215F71209E2 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wC6cxK4JJS4P for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30F611209BB for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804EC661DCB for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573155322; bh=K0mBEUSrb1u9mwWMqbNc/UNdk8Cl7ybe26DPbCYtTLc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OAmizpNqJezL7DKBHfuZE68YmRp78ZFBmUfqMKYhjmfshjAzt9LrrfSoNWTOLLNkg IHNiWoNvvoODQHCseoR+YDY3LP8SloVAcPBisO1+jrI+yhutmToNPxDieLs2gjA6oZ RmYpo1IdT1akTf9UEA+CtwU5VbJ/5jbjaCYdoRqU= Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:35:22 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handle reordered NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames (#3202) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc471fa6e651_5ab13fb411ccd9681343c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:35:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc471fa6e651_5ab13fb411ccd9681343c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The situation is a bit perverse to begin with. RPT isn't permitted to be >= the sequence number of the new CID, which means they've already issued you 10k CIDs for that situation to be real. If the peer revokes a block of 10k CIDs via RPT, they're expecting to get 10k RCID frames, minus any that might already have been sent. Yes, that means they might then issue a similarly large block of CIDs, which you will then forget silently and the insanity will play itself out again the next time they revoke a large batch. This glut is best managed by using the existing TP and not permitting the peer to send you an unlimited number of CIDs. This also argues, perhaps, for making the default something more sensible than "infinite" in #3197. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3202#issuecomment-551230648 ----==_mimepart_5dc471fa6e651_5ab13fb411ccd9681343c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The situation is a bit perverse to begin with. RPT isn't permitted to be >= the sequence number of the new CID, which means they've already issued you 10k CIDs for that situation to be real.

If the peer revokes a block of 10k CIDs via RPT, they're expecting to get 10k RCID frames, minus any that might already have been sent. Yes, that means they might then issue a similarly large block of CIDs, which you will then forget silently and the insanity will play itself out again the next time they revoke a large batch. This glut is best managed by using the existing TP and not permitting the peer to send you an unlimited number of CIDs.

This also argues, perhaps, for making the default something more sensible than "infinite" in #3197.

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Another potential pitfall of "MUST NOT": Assume you've filled the peer's quota, but now need to revoke all prior CIDs and start a new generation. You have to send at least one NCID to carry the RPT and give the client something in the new generation of CIDs. Depending on the client's implementation, the limit might be exceeded during the processing of the frame.

This can be addressed if the client takes actions in this order:

  • Retire all unretired CIDs <= RPT, queuing the RCID frames for transmission
  • Add the new CID to the connection
  • Send the queued RCID frames using the new CID

During this transition, though, there are zero active CIDs on the connection. A more savvy implementation might retire all but one of the old CIDs (so data flow never gets stalled), install the new CID, then retire the last old one. Of course, that gets trickier in a multipath world; you have to make sure that the one you keep is okay for the currently-active path.

What the client can't do is add the new CID first, check the limit, then process any retirements; in that order, the limit gets breached.

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----==_mimepart_5dc47468adce7_6ee83ffb5decd9642087f-- From nobody Thu Nov 7 12:42:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0039812096B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:42:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 875KZLNL0tEU for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F321E12089B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:42:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 12:42:27 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573159347; bh=p7WjSIfiqxMgKQNBHzpco3/8t2cYAO3KBD2dAkux7Yw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QeRGh/dIojMZkOISRChkSNEJ0mW2oH4LakjG3C8f0QFvh8VV3kmp4LeZpZFy2qmQu fmBxZOLat5QQITZ5VKbmoPL8Y6Lxn4HTxOl8fI++KLzLPNloVVdZzs4ocoDfxhTDdh u1DCpvVBc8iR98bCxJcKfv3iHESkGv0o8iAjlEAc= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc481b3beed_22f3fcc1b4cd96c1280af"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:42:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc481b3beed_22f3fcc1b4cd96c1280af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There definitely was a reason we avoided making this a strict requirement= , and I think this played into it, but this is the benefit of having RPT = delivered in the same frame that delivers a new one. =0D =0D Perhaps modify the text to indicate that the error is if the limit is exc= eeded after retiring any in RPT?=0D =0D Or even some non-normative text along the lines of =E2=80=9CIf RPT retire= s all outstanding CIDS, immediately start sending new packets with the ne= w CID and make sure you only check the limit after retiring any indicated= in RPT=E2=80=9D? =0D =0D On one hand, it=E2=80=99s kind of an annoying thing to keep track of. But= on the other, making it a hard requirement does decently simplify a lot = of other scenarios. =0D =0D That said, we should probably go dig up the other reasons we avoided this= the first time around. =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-551254796= ----==_mimepart_5dc481b3beed_22f3fcc1b4cd96c1280af Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There definitely was a reason we avoided making this a strict requirem= ent, and I think this played into it, but this is the benefit of having R= PT delivered in the same frame that delivers a new one.

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Perhaps modify the text to indicate that the error is if the limit is = exceeded after retiring any in RPT?

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Or even some non-normative text along the lines of =E2=80=9CIf RPT ret= ires all outstanding CIDS, immediately start sending new packets with the= new CID and make sure you only check the limit after retiring any indica= ted in RPT=E2=80=9D?

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On one hand, it=E2=80=99s kind of an annoying thing to keep track of. = But on the other, making it a hard requirement does decently simplify a l= ot of other scenarios.

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That said, we should probably go dig up the other reasons we avoided t= his the first time around.

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The minutes aren't super informative.... @kazuho was against it being an error, and @ekr thought it needed to be a hard requirement if present. Nothing else specific about who opposed it or why.

I really wish we audio-recorded these meetings.

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Ah, thanks for looking that up! In that case, probably worth thinking through if there are other situations like this, but even if so I'm inclined towards the proposed change, albeit with additional text to cover the edge cases/provide implementation guidance.

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It might be cleaner to say that when you receive RPT, you need to retire the indicated sequence numbers even if you haven't received them yet. Then you can just discard the NCID frames upon arrival.

@MikeBishop There's a DoS attack here. If the attacker doesn't comply with the rule that new CIDs have to be issued in order (which is one of the non-enforceable MUSTs in the spec) and issues you CID 1000000 while with the same value for Retire Prior To, the endpoint would have to send a million RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. I think the only way to reliable avoid this DoS is to only send RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID for CIDs that you actually received.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5398,6 +5398,10 @@ and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
 retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding
 RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.
 
+An endpoint that receives a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with a sequence number
+smaller than the Retire Prior To field of a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame received
+before, MUST immediately send a corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame.

Thanks! I applied your suggestions.

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Technically design, so we'll need a consensus call, but the PR is probably the best way to address this.

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@erickinnear @MikeBishop As discussed in #3197 I added a minimum value of 2 for the TP, since values below this don't make any sense.
Having an invalid default value seems wrong to me, so I also made 2 the default value for the TP. People might disagree if this a reasonable value.

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Consolidate Retire Prior To instructions in the section that discusses retiring CIDs and clean up the frame description. Left the operational requirements about the frame and its values with the frame, but all of the mechanism for requesting retirement of CIDs is now in one section.

Fixes #3195.

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  • Consolidate Retire Prior To instructions in section, clean up frame description

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----==_mimepart_5dc507a337f8f_148c3f88c86cd9602851eb-- From nobody Thu Nov 7 22:16:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D79B1208D4 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:16:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cN42nfwgOf2f for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C24CE1201B7 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D3C1C3061 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 22:16:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573193765; bh=qTf/qjqSTzfr6KeDWwyoQPX7RRF5mTWzkMMA/RV1Efo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tkkH70PhYMjnCP82GT04sHM5hNrHmhITJGM39Diqaas8XNuVsh+uPLWBGF88FW3gs 9zCj8+o+U4qchwGhj5EusfvbTXdkAGKxz4F4fUMwUWlia1ZY/r0UMa54cvJdXeJfHf 0C96mqRtF4mxsfI9UePxPfojcRUD+k2geCpKo+v8= Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:16:04 -0800 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] conflicting advice how to handle Retire Prior To (#3195) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc50824e7391_268b3fd207ecd95c18657d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 06:16:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc50824e7391_268b3fd207ecd95c18657d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Definitely agree that this is editorial, we just missed this duplicate requirement in the original change. Removed that duplication and cleaned up the frame description a bit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3195#issuecomment-551400183 ----==_mimepart_5dc50824e7391_268b3fd207ecd95c18657d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Definitely agree that this is editorial, we just missed this duplicate requirement in the original change. Removed that duplication and cleaned up the frame description a bit.

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I agree that this seems generally editorial, but either way I think this is ready to go?

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The minutes aren't super informative.... @kazuho was against it being an error, and @ekr thought it needed to be a hard requirement if present. Nothing else specific about who opposed it or why.

IIRC, some mildly opposed to the addition of active_connection_id_limit because it's an unnecessary complexity, arguing that the model could be simple as: issue-some initially, then issue more as the peer uses the CIDs. After the discussion, the middle ground that we agreed was to make it an advisory settings. Note that we made this decision prior to the addition of Retire Prior To.

But now, with the introduction of Retire Prior To, we have another way of retiring CIDs. I think that the simple model is no longer unsustainable.

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  • 8354804 mandate the processing order of NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame fields

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----==_mimepart_5dc51f624d6ca_12113f947aecd96858831b-- From nobody Thu Nov 7 23:57:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BEA12009E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 23:57:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLWV5Bd4MYjl for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 23:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B679F12003E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 23:57:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 23:57:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573199864; bh=fUvLlK6UfQM7vSlbeuGtlpbcfyJpVJdJ30MUnYxVhN4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BmAXKEQn8AFzZ77fZ3Uz0l90hojAxD+sTGTAmXPcG1OJ8Xhn166jMZOfV6Mr3QS0R gNpKXIy2saS7gZ0mivBZGu4heYU1tQpeUsXT2UQS+gVxXvQ7aTXhP8AoeAKYZ1WxAN aB3sbVf+Y87v2ffesvjM4Uk9KYNMWgdAvPAXlssE= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc51ff8a40ee_cd73ff0966cd95c286851"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 07:57:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc51ff8a40ee_cd73ff0966cd95c286851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho That matches what I remember from the discussion in Tokyo. I think we actually need normative text along the lines that @MikeBishop suggests. I don't think it's a problem that during the time you process a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame the number of active connection IDs might temporarily reach 0, if we assume that these frames are processed atomically. And I can't really think of a reason why any implementation might want split processing of the Retire Prior To field and adding the new CID. I updated #3201 with a suggestion in 8354804a2a30580fd1b7deadb19f3baf3ad68fd8. WDYT? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-551424928 ----==_mimepart_5dc51ff8a40ee_cd73ff0966cd95c286851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho That matches what I remember from the discussion in Tokyo.

I think we actually need normative text along the lines that @MikeBishop suggests. I don't think it's a problem that during the time you process a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame the number of active connection IDs might temporarily reach 0, if we assume that these frames are processed atomically. And I can't really think of a reason why any implementation might want split processing of the Retire Prior To field and adding the new CID.

I updated #3201 with a suggestion in 8354804. WDYT?

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Now that max_datagram_size is a variable, other constants that are defined in terms of it need to become variables (or probably function), too. This includes at least kInitialWindow and kMinimumWindow.

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Good point, thanks for filing this.

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Discussed in London; still waiting for text from httpwg/http-core#194.

on 194

mnot closed this on 20 Aug

so are we waiting for something else now?

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Larger change, but one solution to that might be permitting a RCID frame to retire ranges instead of a single CID.

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@MikeBishop what about RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID meaning that all IDs equal or less than that one have been retired? That would force them to be used in order, which seems like a feature in my opinion.

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----==_mimepart_5dc57fd0af122_1c603f9bd12cd95c4440bf-- From nobody Fri Nov 8 06:58:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD4E12025D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 06:58:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lTE3AQkzJ5JA for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 06:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15FDE12021D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 06:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.75]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448CB6A1DF7 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573225097; bh=g6q8c1F2BiBiU/6OT5JSjdKeVm7r5twgMUM5B0jWhr0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uXs7pTtael94terQhBFUS+SGHVqqaA+ehF9ry1H7Z8o9E9ySWkiFVGxjKJQYjh8qm 2TSwU8Y2e9HvWN35Az7tbzs19UqBe+3xBarrajyNCKtrnBHIq80V/tUCYGuyf1Owkk Bh++K/kU54hGmUgW4aI3e9Hx47jwtP90MdYlNmsE= Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 06:58:17 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc58289351e4_32f43fc8512cd964768d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 14:58:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc58289351e4_32f43fc8512cd964768d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to contradict me-from-yesterday a little, or at least complicate the point. The reason we have the 1-RTO window is that some implementations might not be able to actually retire CIDs instantly (packets are queued in hardware offloads, you want to avoid racing in-flight packets against the packet containing the RCID, etc.). If we require the retirement to be done as part of processing the frame, processing the frame can take up to an RTO. What happens to other frames in the packet? Does this packet get ACK'd if you're not done with this process yet? Plus, you can't actually send the RCID frames until you've got the new CID *unless* you have a race with one more RCID frame in a subsequent packet. This can get sticky very quickly. If I had an implementation where I couldn't retire CIDs right away, I would probably tag them for retirement upon receipt of this frame and say those that are tagged don't count toward the limit. But that's not entirely compliant with the text in your commit, and also assumes I have some headroom I'm not telling the peer about, because I have to remember all of them temporarily. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-551859959 ----==_mimepart_5dc58289351e4_32f43fc8512cd964768d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm going to contradict me-from-yesterday a little, or at least complicate the point.

The reason we have the 1-RTO window is that some implementations might not be able to actually retire CIDs instantly (packets are queued in hardware offloads, you want to avoid racing in-flight packets against the packet containing the RCID, etc.). If we require the retirement to be done as part of processing the frame, processing the frame can take up to an RTO. What happens to other frames in the packet? Does this packet get ACK'd if you're not done with this process yet? Plus, you can't actually send the RCID frames until you've got the new CID unless you have a race with one more RCID frame in a subsequent packet. This can get sticky very quickly.

If I had an implementation where I couldn't retire CIDs right away, I would probably tag them for retirement upon receipt of this frame and say those that are tagged don't count toward the limit. But that's not entirely compliant with the text in your commit, and also assumes I have some headroom I'm not telling the peer about, because I have to remember all of them temporarily.

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----==_mimepart_5dc58289351e4_32f43fc8512cd964768d2-- From nobody Fri Nov 8 07:04:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12DF120133 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:04:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LDlxZ7jkAPkV for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25C3612006F for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58082C602DE for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:04:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573225441; bh=enEiS1s3hAX3hxrHKrTaq2VdoohebesVSPNePbwfWXQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fr3lrVCDDDXBLb0/K0c4nQCrzZqaPf0IMb54PnweEtm69cdVsrt+j4vK/So1igJnm U01mZC4IXWpsojsV0t+WmZL5XV4M8SGozOqOluW7ZwFC3b4rtiKGkqgIf7161qOL8Y fxX83ygh7FVGSYxB4566InNkcn8N412hGpptHIKY= Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 07:04:01 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] handle reordered NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames (#3202) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc583e14799b_50943f91104cd96c8886c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:04:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc583e14799b_50943f91104cd96c8886c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We had that at one point, didn't we? It is a feature until you start doing probes on other paths. If you use a CID on a different path, then want to retire it, that also retires a CID you might still be using on the main path. And it's no problem if you have another CID to roll forward to, but it forces you to burn more CIDs than you otherwise would. I believe there was also an objection to that model that the gratuitous CID rolls leaked signals about use of other paths. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3202#issuecomment-551862258 ----==_mimepart_5dc583e14799b_50943f91104cd96c8886c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We had that at one point, didn't we? It is a feature until you start doing probes on other paths. If you use a CID on a different path, then want to retire it, that also retires a CID you might still be using on the main path. And it's no problem if you have another CID to roll forward to, but it forces you to burn more CIDs than you otherwise would. I believe there was also an objection to that model that the gratuitous CID rolls leaked signals about use of other paths.

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httpwg/http-core#194 was split into separate issues; the piece we need is now httpwg/http-core#237.

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Larger change, but one solution to that might be permitting a RCID frame to retire ranges instead of a single CID.

@MikeBishop I'm not sure if there's a problem here that we need to solve. The DoS that I described only works if an endpoint sends RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames for CIDs that it hasn't received / doesn't remember any more. As long as you only retire CIDs that you're actually keeping track of (as the spec currently says), the DoS doesn't work.

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If I had an implementation where I couldn't retire CIDs right away, I would probably tag them for retirement upon receipt of this frame and say those that are tagged don't count toward the limit.

I agree that this would be a reasonable thing to do in this case. Clearly, if you have such an implementation, it's a highly optimized one that uses async processing and / or hardware offloads. I don't think it's too much too ask for that such an implementation takes appropriate steps to bridge the time it takes to retire a CID.
Do you have any suggestion how to improve the text in the PR without getting too much into implementation details?

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Perhaps to say that the peer MUST NOT consider the connection IDs it has been asked to retire when calculating whether the limit has been exceeded, even if they haven't actually retired them yet? That gives implementations the latitude to hang onto them for a bit if needed, but keeps you from going over the limit even so.

Then it's the implementation's business whether it wants to defer adding the CID (and block processing of this frame), add it and exceed the limit temporarily, retire the old CIDs on the spot, or something else.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

"MUST error" requires tracking. It's possible that an implementation might decide to drop some CIDs and reduce the number it keeps without closing the connection. "SHOULD/MAY error" provides the same deterrent effect for the issuer's misbehavior without placing a requirement on the receiver.

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----==_mimepart_5dc5a5633765f_63c63fa43aacd9602524cf-- From nobody Fri Nov 8 10:02:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3A31200CE for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OAtwn95z7cuH for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3597412006D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:02:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:02:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573236159; bh=1xdYkE8hX9R4zD6CWmjQyu4tqMoW8q9sQGBajJPnoy4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Y3vcBXIW0XIeby2uqU3OGFAm3iPUmS/Gb/+GqnXKYPZ2NLcUXqjOGYwWrIXtwfKud t9z8HlXTyJKmrZ9fSzYfpRucy4QMRZyLrvluSKwY+u/wvPElhrvZz4U276FIyQmuJ5 fMjEmjR/ENYbtpsVtw/yurDvDOZGPIWlhRPMn+Mw= From: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 8a47a0: Recommend replacing, not changing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:02:42 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/http/hard_to_change_frames Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 8a47a06ce8c8337f47f5ed86f33532146210d907 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8a47a06ce8c8337f47f5ed86f33532146210d907 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-11-08 (Fri, 08 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Recommend replacing, not changing From nobody Fri Nov 8 10:03:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67630120811 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:03:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YJkdJxkpUE6l for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE72D1200CE for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:03:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:03:24 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573236204; bh=vSE8jF2aHeebZUWlumqxNokSkn3gvN82vgN9EI+NbXY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=OII68/I5OHujC/hoK7rATic1tyXtWMjuyqep7YQBrYDZdLFYzZeXPS0elqq7ULN4B ADP2WRKCg00+SAYEYWMVDytA72t5e9YanVazxNzXG0x0FnOSW0Y7MnF+3GjuuNaT1h ZECm/9yKa6qPxD3ShXhTi//rZEkQ/Bms3U9Iurxs= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] a3d085: Script updating gh-pages from 8a47a06c. 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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Nov 8 10:04:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03B512087C for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qdqib4VSbKnF for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E9CE120876 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510ED1C0691 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 10:04:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573236261; bh=gOUXd2jc57dff7T+9d4T+/rbvbPTjT+h5Ivm54c9/QY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2SCaIobH/H9Yk+VzCiVsWQW/PCGIhwkleL3bljhwub+X6pb7HD50C2hwuEqJ7kK4N BjzJ6rxtnlMcCOZOO71hKm8PLfujRlgQYLA25eDQpb6MfP10J2Y7GNKfo/0Wx7YB0J qgg/qEx2JSXRqfBxRrIyifOZaPd6l7ju9sSRiX3s= Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 10:04:21 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend replacing, not changing, protocol components (#3206) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc5ae2542aff_9063fe4c80cd96418842b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:04:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc5ae2542aff_9063fe4c80cd96418842b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #2985. Simply notes that coordination is hard in the face of SETTINGS, so it's likely to be better to replace than modify. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3206 -- Commit Summary -- * Recommend replacing, not changing -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3206.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3206.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3206 ----==_mimepart_5dc5ae2542aff_9063fe4c80cd96418842b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2985. Simply notes that coordination is hard in the face of SETTINGS, so it's likely to be better to replace than modify.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3206

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Fixes #3130.

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#3035 updated quic-tls but not quic-transport

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----==_mimepart_5dc5cd08e20dc_19643ff1ca0cd964949a3-- From nobody Fri Nov 8 12:35:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8874D120D1B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:35:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1JJIHJhxnX43 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 959A51200E0 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:35:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 12:35:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573245328; bh=gAW0h0fYt8w3yP6R2BjtfMp26O+rA++xutGlcI98UHs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VA5Zefosedda1dILHob9lXu7JsuZMOVp3E/pQv967Vtz28jXtlKzHGQUPwXsYNw97 u1IKQiXqr9YnxWEr/cOZhnO/K3DRLDAy+IaljN7OTrVPf3mpR3FtmoAJi+qIM9YcTs mpHdu0UTvnLoNMkv+1LHHPfrwsqR5wIR2Htg2fVc= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend H3_NO_ERROR for early responses (#3208) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc5d190a1120_4ea63f92024cd9602363e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 20:35:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc5d190a1120_4ea63f92024cd9602363e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RyanAtGoogle commented on this pull request. > @@ -424,13 +424,14 @@ H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE. A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has not been sent and received. When the server does not need to receive the -remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream with error -code H3_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a complete response, and cleanly close the -sending part of the stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a -result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always -discard responses at their discretion for other reasons. If the server sends a -partial or complete response but does not abort reading, clients SHOULD continue -sending the body of the request and close the stream normally. +remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream, send a I know we try to avoid using QUIC transport level vocabulary in the HTTP/3 document, but I've tripped up on this language before and your change reminded me about it. When it says that the server may "abort reading the stream ... " and use "... H3_NO_ERROR" it *sounds* like it's trying to RST_STREAM the stream, but of course it's really just asking the peer to stop sending (via STOP_SENDING). Would it make sense to phrase this like: When the server does not need to receive the remainder of the request, it MAY request that the client stop sending on the the request stream, send a complete response, and cleanly close the sending part of the stream. The error code H3_NO_ERROR SHOULD be used when requesting that the client stop sending on the request stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3208#pullrequestreview-314445324 ----==_mimepart_5dc5d190a1120_4ea63f92024cd9602363e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -424,13 +424,14 @@ H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE.
 A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire
 request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has
 not been sent and received. When the server does not need to receive the
-remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream with error
-code H3_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a complete response, and cleanly close the
-sending part of the stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a
-result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  If the server sends a
-partial or complete response but does not abort reading, clients SHOULD continue
-sending the body of the request and close the stream normally.
+remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream, send a

I know we try to avoid using QUIC transport level vocabulary in the HTTP/3 document, but I've tripped up on this language before and your change reminded me about it. When it says that the server may "abort reading the stream ... " and use "... H3_NO_ERROR" it sounds like it's trying to RST_STREAM the stream, but of course it's really just asking the peer to stop sending (via STOP_SENDING). Would it make sense to phrase this like:

When the server does not need to receive the remainder of the request, it MAY request that the client stop sending on the the request stream, send a complete response, and cleanly close the sending part of the stream. The error code H3_NO_ERROR SHOULD be used when requesting that the client stop sending on the request stream.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -424,13 +424,14 @@ H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE.
 A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire
 request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has
 not been sent and received. When the server does not need to receive the
-remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream with error
-code H3_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a complete response, and cleanly close the
-sending part of the stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a
-result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  If the server sends a
-partial or complete response but does not abort reading, clients SHOULD continue
-sending the body of the request and close the stream normally.
+remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream, send a

The terminology is in the transport spec, and one of the operations is:

abort reading of the stream and request closure, possibly resulting in a STOP_SENDING frame (Section 19.5).

I think rephrasing the second sentence to try and improve the linkage would be good, though.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -424,13 +424,14 @@ H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE.
 A server can send a complete response prior to the client sending an entire
 request if the response does not depend on any portion of the request that has
 not been sent and received. When the server does not need to receive the
-remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream with error
-code H3_EARLY_RESPONSE, send a complete response, and cleanly close the
-sending part of the stream. Clients MUST NOT discard complete responses as a
-result of having their request terminated abruptly, though clients can always
-discard responses at their discretion for other reasons.  If the server sends a
-partial or complete response but does not abort reading, clients SHOULD continue
-sending the body of the request and close the stream normally.
+remainder of the request, it MAY abort reading the request stream, send a

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QUIC ends a loss epoch when a packet sent after loss is declared is acknowledged.

I believe there's an extra "is".

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Can you write a PR? Removing either 'is' doesn't read well to me, but I suspect a sentence rewrite could be an improvement.

ie: "A loss epoch ends when a packet sent after loss is first declared is acknowledged."?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

We're requiring other limit checks (e.g. for STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR and for FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR), so I'd prefer to keep this a requirement as well.

I don't think dropping should be regarded as acceptable behavior (although you can't prevent implementations from doing it), since a CID issued by an endpoint consumes state on that endpoint as well.

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The process of creating new packet protection keys for receiving packets could
reveal that a key update has occurred. An endpoint MAY perform this process as
part of packet processing, but this creates a timing signal that can be used by
an attacker to learn when key updates happen and thus the value of the Key Phase
bit in certain packets. Endpoints SHOULD instead defer the creation of the next
set of receive packet protection keys until some time after a key update
completes, up to three times the PTO; see {{old-keys-recv}}.

I don't believe we had consensus on this -- and there was considerable debate in YUL. It just got pulled in as part of a big PR.

This is a significantly more complicated mechanism than just generating as needed, and I haven't yet seen any real security analysis.

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S 6.1 Says

An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having confirmed
the handshake (Section 4.1.2). An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a
subsequent key update prior unless it has received an acknowledgment
for a packet that was sent protected with keys from the current key
phase.

However, I believe that the requirement to have confirmed the
handshake is redundant. As a reminder, the conditions under which the
handshake is confirmed are:

(1) the handshake is complete, and
(2) the endpoint has received an acknowledgment for a
packet sent with 1-RTT keys

  1. On the client side, the 1-RTT keys aren't available until the handshake
    is complete, so it's not possible to send 1-RTT packet and therefore
    not possible to have them ACKed.

  2. On the server side, the 1-RTT keys are available before the handshake
    is complete, but because the server is forbidden from reading any
    1-RTT data before processing CFIN (S 5.6), it also cannot have
    received an acknowledgement for a packet sent with 1-RTT keys.

In other words, condition (2) implies condition (1), no?

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Fixes #3210

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Nov 10 16:52:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2911200E5 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8U7MXmKywp1I for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E33312001A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DE0C60A00 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:51:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573433519; bh=KuntdcAL8RYIeNzbFo14s2qHYDSv9IbU/+IWeVkmBB0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HAOMWeGA6qQe5v1vSvssI3ct0XDqvEJsMkv6ShCVJclUMbVwDZ1iR+sD986eiIDoG /UrqsGEozOBoOhdLEUcjj1fkOv+el9Eyz2w9sQ4oVS96LKTEjj9TWAlYcMTUtHdso0 Z/Bvj3sK4Tayl/Znas7OuCA1gx5m77+4RFY/M7IE= Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:51:59 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Resolve conflicting advice on how to handle Retire Prior To (#3204) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc8b0af871d8_39353fc3acacd96015136f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 00:52:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc8b0af871d8_39353fc3acacd96015136f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. > @@ -1033,11 +1033,10 @@ longer plans to use that address. An endpoint can cause its peer to retire connection IDs by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, -the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs and send corresponding -RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. Failing to retire the connection IDs within -approximately one PTO can cause packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the -original endpoint to send a stateless reset in response to a connection ID it -can no longer route correctly. +the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs via RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID ```suggestion the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID ``` > @@ -5392,15 +5391,10 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. -The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs -with a sequence number less than the specified value. This includes the initial -and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs. The peer SHOULD -retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding -RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner. - -The Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number -field. Receiving a value greater than the Sequence Number MUST be treated as a -connection error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR. +The Retire Prior To field (see {{retiring-cids}}) includes the initial and +preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs and MUST be less than or Two sentences, I think: > The Retire Prior To field counts connection IDs established during connection setup and the preferred_address transport parameter (see {{retiring-cids}}). The Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number field. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Nov 10 17:04:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133A01200F4 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:04:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4PkghS06YSkO for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 569381200E5 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:04:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:04:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573434293; bh=Fcjsw+lYEfDUkPZ384oJWtE+hTLlOirCfqXEp6HqDSQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hi09ESMTxUc/7PVtZNtwH5SmdRG6AH42AwW7O5y8KmatLSoGgCXU9gol+fNPMk1AT IigG2zw19X/SjaiUiK3JojIye2Lusay6VWOrpoOT1yLsfrh0CYTAug029i9FBmUdZ9 CAp9H+gLHEuA23gPwshMlTIeleUhaPe3FdPdm+3o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove handshake confirmed test for KeyUpdte (#3212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc8b3b5717c6_18233f8dc6acd968118742f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:04:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc8b3b5717c6_18233f8dc6acd968118742f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rather than get bogged down in the minutiae of the requirement and the nature of confirmation, let's just say that this was added when we added the definition of "confirmed". But an endpoint that can accept 1-RTT in key phase 0 can also receive 1-RTT in key phase 1 equally well. So there is no functional reason not to allow updates as soon as 1-RTT keys are available. I think that we should just loosen this entirely. It might not be a good idea to waste a key phase like that, but it certainly doesn't break anything. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3212#issuecomment-552255990 ----==_mimepart_5dc8b3b5717c6_18233f8dc6acd968118742f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Rather than get bogged down in the minutiae of the requirement and the nature of confirmation, let's just say that this was added when we added the definition of "confirmed".

But an endpoint that can accept 1-RTT in key phase 0 can also receive 1-RTT in key phase 1 equally well. So there is no functional reason not to allow updates as soon as 1-RTT keys are available. I think that we should just loosen this entirely. It might not be a good idea to waste a key phase like that, but it certainly doesn't break anything.

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So there is no functional reason not to allow updates as soon as 1-RTT keys are available. I think that we should just loosen this entirely. It might not be a good idea to waste a key phase like that, but it certainly doesn't break anything.

If we are to loosing the requirement, I would prefer also adding the 3 PTO recommendation regarding the transition from 1-RTT key (phase 0) to 1-RTT key (phase 1).

Because there is a concern regarding performance and complexity.

When 0-RTT is used, the client's send key transitions from 0-RTT key -> 1-RTT key (phase 0) -> 1-RTT key (phase 1) -> ...

Implementation-wise, it would be best to recommend every transition between these keys to be no earlier than 3 PTO, because then, the server can have a consistent rule on when it would be creating new key, replacing the old one.

At the moment, we are near to that, by saying that the 1-RTT key cannot be updated until an ACK for an 1-RTT packet is being received. Just loosening this rule would require server developers to have different timing on how it drops 0.5-RTT key vs. 1-RTT keys - it would be a complication.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ not available.
 
 ### Clearer Loss Epoch
 
-QUIC ends a loss epoch when a packet sent after loss is declared is
+A loss epoch ends when a packet sent after loss is first declared is

I don't understand this sentence. There are too many "is".

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----==_mimepart_5dc8be4d6420c_55f73fb4344cd95c3059dc-- From nobody Sun Nov 10 17:50:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CE51200A4 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NUyWloj28YVn for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00277120047 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:50:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:50:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573437033; bh=3z93LwNNXfqq8mdYcgGfdl7D0j2vo6qJF3CBpAQxZjY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xUJcZvZbSxUGOTZQkmWJ1Desx0QQxJXGsYggWQ0XIb9/8UKyQ6/HZq2LgA3YJWmZf 5IUd6sBtjp2tIFZFt+fHAHsfcwDmI0Y81q7QeF25gKRMSPC8OYExZIGwK1Lekkn5Wh pi0cRqrnjC6O7PU7sHBQU722LpuV2w6Rhm6s1nHE= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove handshake confirmed test for KeyUpdte (#3212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc8be693a1e5_18233f8dc6acd96812256b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:50:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc8be693a1e5_18233f8dc6acd96812256b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IMO we don't need to add a 3 PTO before key change. We've done performance tests with msquic and changing the key after each key update is ACK'ed and it showed absolutely no impact on throughput. As far as extra complexity it's hard to say. We implemented key update as it was spec'ed now and didn't have to make any complicated extra logic to get to this state. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3212#issuecomment-552262080 ----==_mimepart_5dc8be693a1e5_18233f8dc6acd96812256b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

IMO we don't need to add a 3 PTO before key change. We've done performance tests with msquic and changing the key after each key update is ACK'ed and it showed absolutely no impact on throughput. As far as extra complexity it's hard to say. We implemented key update as it was spec'ed now and didn't have to make any complicated extra logic to get to this state.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ not available.
 
 ### Clearer Loss Epoch
 
-QUIC ends a loss epoch when a packet sent after loss is declared is
+A loss epoch ends when a packet sent after loss is first declared is

Fair, I tried to rephrase this sentence another time. PTAL

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TCP waits for the gap in the sequence number space to be filled, -and so if a segment is lost multiple times in a row, the loss epoch may not -end for several round trips. Because both should reduce their congestion windows -only once per epoch, QUIC will do it correctly once for every round trip that -experiences loss, while TCP may only do it once across multiple round trips. +QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost and ends one when any packet s/one/it -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3213#pullrequestreview-314667434 ----==_mimepart_5dc8c42b30e69_71ca3f9a9aacd964111989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -217,12 +217,13 @@ not available.
 
 ### Clearer Loss Epoch
 
-QUIC ends a loss epoch when a packet sent after loss is declared is
-acknowledged. TCP waits for the gap in the sequence number space to be filled,
-and so if a segment is lost multiple times in a row, the loss epoch may not
-end for several round trips. Because both should reduce their congestion windows
-only once per epoch, QUIC will do it correctly once for every round trip that
-experiences loss, while TCP may only do it once across multiple round trips.
+QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost and ends one when any packet

s/one/it

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -217,12 +217,13 @@ not available.
 
 ### Clearer Loss Epoch
 
-QUIC ends a loss epoch when a packet sent after loss is declared is
-acknowledged. TCP waits for the gap in the sequence number space to be filled,
-and so if a segment is lost multiple times in a row, the loss epoch may not
-end for several round trips. Because both should reduce their congestion windows
-only once per epoch, QUIC will do it correctly once for every round trip that
-experiences loss, while TCP may only do it once across multiple round trips.
+QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost and ends one when any packet

I actually think one reads more clearly, but maybe that's me?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5392,15 +5391,10 @@ sequence number, or if a sequence number is used for different connection
 IDs, the endpoint MAY treat that receipt as a connection error of type
 PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
-The Retire Prior To field is a request for the peer to retire all connection IDs
-with a sequence number less than the specified value.  This includes the initial
-and preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs.  The peer SHOULD
-retire the corresponding connection IDs and send the corresponding
-RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames in a timely manner.
-
-The Retire Prior To field MUST be less than or equal to the Sequence Number
-field.  Receiving a value greater than the Sequence Number MUST be treated as a
-connection error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.
+The Retire Prior To field (see {{retiring-cids}}) includes the initial and
+preferred_address transport parameter connection IDs and MUST be less than or

Changed in f11934f

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We've done performance tests with msquic and changing the key after each key update is ACK'ed and it showed absolutely no impact on throughput. As far as extra complexity it's hard to say. We implemented key update as it was spec'ed now and didn't have to make any complicated extra logic to get to this state.

I'm not sure if what you describe is following the recommendation. Quoting from the spec:

  • Endpoints SHOULD wait three times the PTO before initiating a key update after receiving an acknowledgment that confirms that the previous key update was received. (section 6.5)
  • Endpoints SHOULD instead defer the creation of the next set of receive packet protection keys until some time after a key update completes, up to three times the PTO. (section 6.3)

Depending on how the peer is implemented, updating the key as soon as receiving an ACK would cause packet drops.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide

This text indicates that the number of "active_connection_id_limit" means the number of "stored" CIDs "for future use." It might be better to address this now. See #3200.

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----==_mimepart_5dc8f2f15e940_2e5f3fa3a90cd96019434d3-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 06:50:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B4A1207FD for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:50:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMVE19KvAKsj for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C2A112000F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:50:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:50:55 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573483855; bh=Nunx70w0QS42O7m4OCLXCIq84+nWilCgD1Q4JzK70is=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=V/vB+dyyM8Kd7O9t5QAjrxgHmuwAEgyqD8+olX4WUkJ+96s38H5tcMSIo7zoeNSo6 i4rHKXD1H54xiAYTtqGCeCrztlOH7ABdig0CBOo3CgzL/uGLhnEPzT2rZk6kE8iYuY 7I0L9VG0qxOXB+9Y+8Psgsc12rQv2ymkvuUq6/Fk= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove handshake confirmed test for KeyUpdte (#3212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9754f196db_156c3fd7c44cd96c59204"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 14:50:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9754f196db_156c3fd7c44cd96c59204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm saying that while in a theoretical sense waiting the 3 PTO (in any of the scenarios) might possibly reduce packet loss, with msquic to msquic it made zero difference. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3212#issuecomment-552475640 ----==_mimepart_5dc9754f196db_156c3fd7c44cd96c59204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm saying that while in a theoretical sense waiting the 3 PTO (in any of the scenarios) might possibly reduce packet loss, with msquic to msquic it made zero difference.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9811a9bce7_38243fdad4ccd960936b4-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 08:55:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D171209F4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:55:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jgbZxi_mueF4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC1701209D7 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D742C3226 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573491335; bh=7VHE24fdu8pIXQ6U5pOrg2oTUAPfOwb6HisDTq9By0w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ALihnJX9nID3KjAtwiyQKpDQdrAG/Hj5FI9rMpcnrvrtJFzndY04n/gkXJx+sTKzV RKqtMY3pgqybplqoJ3LRV8jrhV1CilEwzPrGWcZawS5E1ixssBZhZ5lAGVCyFhAjnm En42fRP+jNSb5obEE6mWzy6oPhLwUvWhavZzYS0c= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:55:35 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add Retry CID change requirement to transport changelog (#3203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc99287cad88_273f3ff6afccd9642364626"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:55:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc99287cad88_273f3ff6afccd9642364626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. This issue documents an existing requirement, so it's not actually a design change, and the issue is labeled editorial. So I don't think we need to add this to the changelog, but we could and instead say "Document why servers have to change Connection IDs in Retry." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3203#pullrequestreview-315026640 ----==_mimepart_5dc99287cad88_273f3ff6afccd9642364626 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This issue documents an existing requirement, so it's not actually a design change, and the issue is labeled editorial. So I don't think we need to add this to the changelog, but we could and instead say "Document why servers have to change Connection IDs in Retry."

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I don't think we need to add this to the changelog,

OK.

but we could and instead say "Document why servers have to change Connection IDs in Retry."

Where would we do that if we closed this PR?

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----==_mimepart_5dc992ec1d8e8_69bd3fae1b0cd95c12420fd-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 08:58:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13414120A2A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:58:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-6hOvtdxgGD for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 715D3120A33 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027E2C333E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:58:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573491523; bh=ugEFrQKRF8qz4rVopuAOEe9h4hhHzQHJigGseVncgA4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mGE5FwZz8tY/HjOB/UsDt8dNwBeGwl37VVD+lsRIgUG+qBoJKTevrnrh/2YGL3cNb wG3WMwLQXiSsp8fP5C9W2v+cBt5PnGR+BTqGBt0WuQVTlDbOTauPSce1KtMEkHtbDx v58Dvnf9RYxj12P0RBX9nJmZEN2m90IiyLJLj+8E= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 08:58:43 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add Retry CID change requirement to transport changelog (#3203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc993437080b_3f123f9b1b4cd95c3760573"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:58:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc993437080b_3f123f9b1b4cd95c3760573 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was saying we could do that in this PR. But it's really @martinthomson and @janaiyengar call, since they're the transport editors. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3203#issuecomment-552526214 ----==_mimepart_5dc993437080b_3f123f9b1b4cd95c3760573 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was saying we could do that in this PR. But it's really @martinthomson and @janaiyengar call, since they're the transport editors.

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----==_mimepart_5dc993437080b_3f123f9b1b4cd95c3760573-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 09:45:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8772812084D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:45:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xAvI-jN3RU56 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62A1012084B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63066A00AB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:45:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573494308; bh=D7Pq7unYktoCRqWTOgvE0w/Lu1IxRNarJnHIQ4kOFvk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wcIAgvuWtm16cEyWkgBPkRRsf+ECoCTZl5XFgKokJXLEJAk56l6ddjhnjfaAqsyII /Cvpord5bmOrEuvgGgdtrFfAnb+CESv2f3XDx1wT0eBoWE8WyrMLF24mMpcmqVXxgW ZzQL/WKnHDHc+3Upjm4lkKXSffAZVkJSBJ7M7HTY= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:45:08 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial-only NITS on QUIC-Transport-24 (#3214) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc99e24a7a91_2b913f8b42ccd96014364ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:45:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc99e24a7a91_2b913f8b42ccd96014364ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable /There are certain operations which an application MUST /=0D - ought this to be /which an /that an/=0D =0D /However, implementations MAY choose to offer the ability to=0D deliver data out of order to a receiving application./=0D - This doesn=E2=80=99t say the default is in-order delivery, which I woul= d have thought was the case. It also doesn=E2=80=99t say whether this is = per-connection, or per-stream (I imagined the latter).=0D =0D /frames in multiple packets in order to make/=0D - Could be read as implying sequencing, I suggest removing /in order/ or = saying /to ensure that=0D =0D /A receiver maintains a cumulative sum of=0D bytes received on all streams, which is used to check for flow=0D control violations./=0D - It would have helped me, had this explained what was intended by =E2=80= =9Ccontrol violations=E2=80=9D - I think it means to detect when the send= er sends more than permitted by the flow control limit. I think the contr= ol part comes in a later sentence? (Is this measured against the largest = advertised offset, or the current offset? =E2=80=A6 given what is written= about reducing the advertised value?)=0D =0D =0D /However, multiplexing=0D connections on the same local IP address and port while using zero-=0D= length connection IDs will cause failures in the presence of peer=0D connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reuse; and=0D therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those=0D= protocol features are not in use./=0D - Seems like dodgy requirements text to me. I likely agree with the concl= usion, but what is the MUST actually determining when the sentence starts= with a however and includes =E2=80=98certain=E2=80=99 =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=99= not in use=E2=80=9D? I suspect it would be better to have a full stop aft= er the examples of failure and then state what is required.=0D =0D /An endpoint MAY limit the frequency or the total=0D number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the risk=0D= of running out of connection IDs; see Section 10.4.2./=0D - I don=E2=80=99t understand /frequency/ or /total number/ in this senten= ce. I had expected a limit on the outstanding number of unused connection= s or the total number of in-use (used or available) connections, but the = words I saw didn=E2=80=99t make sense to me.=0D =0D /An endpoint that migrates=0D away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on=0D that address once it no longer plans to use that address./=0D - I expected to know what happens if the should is not respected, and won= dered in this case whether the resources remain committed to the previous= address and would become unable to be utilised?=0D =0D /the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs=0D and send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. Failing to=0D retire /=0D - The text requires the sender to do something, ut clearly reordering and= other things could follow - as it says in the next text - so why is this= a MUST, not a SHOULD - with strong indication do otherwise will have imp= lications?=0D =0D In section 5.2 /Hosts try to/=0D - Is host the same endpoints, as elsewhere, or specifically the node host= ing the stack? and why?=0D =0D /Packets that don't match an existing connection are discarded=0D / =0D - I=E2=80=99d personally really prefer to avoid using =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99= t=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cisn=E2=80=99t=E2=80=9D (which currently occur a f= ew times in this section).=0D - also can the ID explicitly say which field did not match the ID.=0D =0D /Servers that do not support a particular version=0D are unlikely to be able to decrypt the payload of the packet.=0D Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt/=0D - This seems like tuning? Or is the intention to protect the endpoint fro= m an attack, please explain the SHOULD.=0D =0D / Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances./=0D= - Normally in other transport protocols, this requirement would be accomp= anied by a =E2=80=9Cand SHOULD log the event=E2=80=9D to enable people to= understand what has happened.=0D =0D /There are certain operations which an application MUST/=0D - I think /which/ needs to /that/.=0D =0D =0D / The size of the first packet sent by a client will determine whether=0D= a server sends a Version Negotiation packet. Clients that support=0D multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first packet they send to the=0D= largest of the minimum packet sizes across all versions they support.=0D= This ensures that the server responds if there is a mutually=0D supported version.=0D /=0D - Are you saying a client that does not PAD does not negotiate? If so: Wh= at is the logic behind that design decision?=0D - I don=E2=80=99t read that as it assures what it say. To me, the padding= assures the client can send this side of packet to the remote endpoint.=0D= - Does this agree with what is written in section 8.1 on padding? and Sec= tion 14?=0D =0D /An endpoint can verify support for Explicit Congestion Notification=0D (ECN) in the first packets it sends, /=0D - Nearly - It can verify the endpoints support ECN and the current path c= ould be used to transfer ECN-marked packets. That=E2=80=99s not quite eno= ugh to complete verification that the path and endpoints have full ECN su= pport.=0D =0D /MUST specify whether they MUST,/=0D - could be written is /is REQUIRED to specify whether they MUST/=0D =0D / and absent new values from the server, the default value./=0D - what does =E2=80=98absent=E2=80=99 mean in this clause, could you rewor= d?=0D =0D /An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does=0D not support./=0D - What happens if the parameter definition requires that it is stored? Ho= w would it know?=0D =0D /Address validation is used by QUIC to avoid being used for a traffic=0D amplification attack. /=0D - This doesn=E2=80=99t parse to me, /is used=E2=80=A6being bused/, please= could you rephrase?=0D =0D /A token SHOULD be constructed in a way that allows the server to=0D distinguish it from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are=0D= carried in the same field./=0D - I=E2=80=99m not sure whether this intended /as/ or /because/ - but eith= er way I did not understand that sentence.=0D =0D /claimed client address (IP=0D and port)/=0D - What is IP and port? - is this both IP addresses or the remote address?= (do you care about Address Family?) and pair of transport ports (or one = of the ports)=0D =0D /MUST respond=0D immediately by echoing the data/=0D - Of course it may not be able to immediately send anything:-) , but I su= spect this needs to not delay?=0D =0D /as it might be a result of a forwarded=0D packet (see Section 9.3.3) or misrouting. /=0D - I think =E2=80=9Cforwarding=E2=80=9D in a transport spec means normal n= etwork behaviour, and routing is the thing controls that. nIf the spec ne= eds to use these words can they be prefixed with something =E2=80=9Cproxy= forwarding - or application forwarding=E2=80=9D- or whatever to indicate= that these are middleboxes, rather than routers/switches.=0D =0D =0D /9.2. Initiating Connection Migration/=0D - I assert the new path may not have the same RTT, because the path could= traverse a different set of network devices or be subject to different p= olicies that influence forwarding behaviour. These are not currently list= ed here, but are the basis for some later text in 9.3.1. Can we mention h= ere?=0D =0D /This style of attack relies on the attacker using a path that is=0D approximately as fast/=0D - In the sense of this phrase, I think =E2=80=9Cfast=E2=80=9D is not refe= rring to line rate or transfer speed, but to the same amount of time =E2=80= =A6 I think the word needs to be replaced.=0D =0D / At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID they=0D= send to a value that has not been used on another path./=0D - I understand the idea of changing, but what is the =E2=80=9Csend to a v= alue=E2=80=9D text about?=0D =0D /If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin=0D sending all future packets to the new server address/=0D - /immediately begin sending/ troubles me here, and I would prefer this t= o also explicitly say that is subject to 9.4 (because we all know people = read documents with certain emphasis, and I wouldn=E2=80=99t like this sp= ecific detail to be missed.=0D =0D /Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left=0D= for future work./=0D - I=E2=80=99d prefer to say is not described in this spec or is not suppo= rted by this spec - rather than these words, I think the SHOULD indicates= it is likely the former.=0D =0D Section 11:=0D / An endpoint that detects an error SHOULD signal the existence of that= =0D error to its peer. /=0D - Normally in other transport protocols, this requirement would be accomp= anied by a =E2=80=9Cand SHOULD log the event=E2=80=9D to enable people to= understand what has happened.=0D =0D This statement is dangerous:=0D /However, an implementor should=0D only deviate from these requirements after careful consideration of=0D= the performance implications of doing so./=0D - Let me argue this statement needs to be replaced by:=0D - =E2=80=9CThe requirements described are baed on consideration of=0D the performance implications and the on other flows that could share n= etwork capacity=E2=80=9D.=0D - I strongly argue that implementors how do not implement a PS do not con= form to that PS. That happens, but I don=E2=80=99t see the point in a spe= c saying if you don=E2=80=99t comply you=E2=80=99re still compliant.=0D =0D /Limiting ACK frames avoids an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements= /=0D - Unclear, is the text about limiting which sets of frames result in ACK = frames? or something else?=0D =0D In Section 13.4 =0D /An endpoint=0D validates the use of ECN on the path, both during connection=0D establishment and when migrating to a new path (Section 9)./=0D - I think the QUIC endpoint MAY also validate ECN is still support by the= path during communication. This may be necessary when ECN is enabled, bu= t a path change results in there no longer being support.=0D - I think this needs to also be permitted in Section 13.4.2, allowing QU= IC to suspend ECN usage for a path or to an endpoint for which it current= ly has a connection.=0D =0D /Note that this requires being able=0D to read the ECN codepoints from the enclosing IP packet, which is not=0D= possible on all platforms./=0D - That sounds like it could be an issue, which it is not. Could we add =E2= =80=9COn those platforms, QUIC will not enable ECN for this endpoint=E2=80= =9D.=0D =0D /To provide robust connectivity in=0D the presence of such devices, each endpoint independently validates=0D= ECN counts and disables ECN if errors are detected./=0D - specifically, I think this could be: /To provide robust connectivity in= =0D the presence of such devices, each endpoint independently validates=0D= ECN counts and disables ECN if the path is does not show consistent su= pport for ECN./=0D =0D / Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY revalidate ECN on the same=0D= path at any later time in the connection./=0D - That=E2=80=99s possible, meaning try again to use ECN? I think the text= needs to be clearer, that this can be used to enable ECN to be used with= in the connection.=0D =0D /path supports a reasonable Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU)./=0D - I think this should read /path supports a reasonable Path Maximum Trans= mission Unit (PMTU)/=0D =0D Also:=0D / Prior to validating the client address, servers MUST NOT send more=0D= than three times as many bytes as the number of bytes they have=0D received./=0D - So, let me understand - does that include retransmissions? or is this c= onstrain within the PTO or something?=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3214= ----==_mimepart_5dc99e24a7a91_2b913f8b42ccd96014364ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

/There are certain operations which an application MUST /

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/However, implementations MAY choose to offer the ability to
=0D deliver data out of order to a receiving application./

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  • This doesn=E2=80=99t say the default is in-order delivery, which I wo= uld have thought was the case. It also doesn=E2=80=99t say whether this i= s per-connection, or per-stream (I imagined the latter).
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/frames in multiple packets in order to make/

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/A receiver maintains a cumulative sum of
=0D bytes received on all streams, which is used to check for flow
=0D control violations./

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  • It would have helped me, had this explained what was intended by =E2=80= =9Ccontrol violations=E2=80=9D - I think it means to detect when the send= er sends more than permitted by the flow control limit. I think the contr= ol part comes in a later sentence? (Is this measured against the largest = advertised offset, or the current offset? =E2=80=A6 given what is written= about reducing the advertised value?)
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/However, multiplexing
=0D connections on the same local IP address and port while using zero-
=0D= length connection IDs will cause failures in the presence of peer
=0D connection migration, NAT rebinding, and client port reuse; and
=0D therefore MUST NOT be done unless an endpoint is certain that those
=0D= protocol features are not in use./

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  • Seems like dodgy requirements text to me. I likely agree with the con= clusion, but what is the MUST actually determining when the sentence star= ts with a however and includes =E2=80=98certain=E2=80=99 =E2=80=A6 =E2=80= =99not in use=E2=80=9D? I suspect it would be better to have a full stop = after the examples of failure and then state what is required.
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/An endpoint MAY limit the frequency or the total
=0D number of connection IDs issued for each connection to avoid the risk
= =0D of running out of connection IDs; see Section 10.4.2./

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  • I don=E2=80=99t understand /frequency/ or /total number/ in this sent= ence. I had expected a limit on the outstanding number of unused connecti= ons or the total number of in-use (used or available) connections, but th= e words I saw didn=E2=80=99t make sense to me.
    • =0D
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/An endpoint that migrates
=0D away from a local address SHOULD retire all connection IDs used on
=0D= that address once it no longer plans to use that address./

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  • I expected to know what happens if the should is not respected, and w= ondered in this case whether the resources remain committed to the previo= us address and would become unable to be utilised?
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/the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs
=0D and send corresponding RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames. Failing to
=0D retire /

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  • The text requires the sender to do something, ut clearly reordering a= nd other things could follow - as it says in the next text - so why is th= is a MUST, not a SHOULD - with strong indication do otherwise will have i= mplications?
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In section 5.2 /Hosts try to/

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  • Is host the same endpoints, as elsewhere, or specifically the node ho= sting the stack? and why?
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/Packets that don't match an existing connection are discarded
=0D /

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  • I=E2=80=99d personally really prefer to avoid using =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80= =99t=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cisn=E2=80=99t=E2=80=9D (which currently occur = a few times in this section).
    • =0D
  • also can the ID explicitly say which field did not match the ID.
    • = =0D
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/Servers that do not support a particular version
=0D are unlikely to be able to decrypt the payload of the packet.
=0D Servers SHOULD NOT attempt to decode or decrypt/

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  • This seems like tuning? Or is the intention to protect the endpoint f= rom an attack, please explain the SHOULD.
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/ Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances./=

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  • Normally in other transport protocols, this requirement would be acco= mpanied by a =E2=80=9Cand SHOULD log the event=E2=80=9D to enable people = to understand what has happened.
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/There are certain operations which an application MUST/

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  • I think /which/ needs to /that/.
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/ The size of the first packet sent by a client will determine whether=
=0D a server sends a Version Negotiation packet. Clients that support
=0D= multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first packet they send to the
=0D= largest of the minimum packet sizes across all versions they support.
= =0D This ensures that the server responds if there is a mutually
=0D supported version.
=0D /

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    =0D
  • Are you saying a client that does not PAD does not negotiate? If so: = What is the logic behind that design decision?
    • =0D
  • I don=E2=80=99t read that as it assures what it say. To me, the paddi= ng assures the client can send this side of packet to the remote endpoint= .
    • =0D
  • Does this agree with what is written in section 8.1 on padding? and S= ection 14?
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/An endpoint can verify support for Explicit Congestion Notification=0D (ECN) in the first packets it sends, /

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  • Nearly - It can verify the endpoints support ECN and the current path= could be used to transfer ECN-marked packets. That=E2=80=99s not quite e= nough to complete verification that the path and endpoints have full ECN = support.
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/MUST specify whether they MUST,/

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  • could be written is /is REQUIRED to specify whether they MUST/
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/ and absent new values from the server, the default value./

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  • what does =E2=80=98absent=E2=80=99 mean in this clause, could you rew= ord?
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/An endpoint MUST ignore transport parameters that it does
=0D not support./

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    =0D
  • What happens if the parameter definition requires that it is stored? = How would it know?
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/Address validation is used by QUIC to avoid being used for a traffic<= br>=0D amplification attack. /

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    =0D
  • This doesn=E2=80=99t parse to me, /is used=E2=80=A6being bused/, plea= se could you rephrase?
    • =0D
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/A token SHOULD be constructed in a way that allows the server to
=0D= distinguish it from tokens that are sent in Retry packets as they are
= =0D carried in the same field./

=0D
    =0D
  • I=E2=80=99m not sure whether this intended /as/ or /because/ - but ei= ther way I did not understand that sentence.
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/claimed client address (IP
=0D and port)/

=0D
    =0D
  • What is IP and port? - is this both IP addresses or the remote addres= s? (do you care about Address Family?) and pair of transport ports (or on= e of the ports)
    • =0D
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/MUST respond
=0D immediately by echoing the data/

=0D
    =0D
  • Of course it may not be able to immediately send anything:-) , but I = suspect this needs to not delay?
    • =0D
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/as it might be a result of a forwarded
=0D packet (see Section 9.3.3) or misrouting. /

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    =0D
  • I think =E2=80=9Cforwarding=E2=80=9D in a transport spec means normal= network behaviour, and routing is the thing controls that. nIf the spec = needs to use these words can they be prefixed with something =E2=80=9Cpro= xy forwarding - or application forwarding=E2=80=9D- or whatever to indica= te that these are middleboxes, rather than routers/switches.
    • =0D
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/9.2. Initiating Connection Migration/

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  • I assert the new path may not have the same RTT, because the path cou= ld traverse a different set of network devices or be subject to different= policies that influence forwarding behaviour. These are not currently li= sted here, but are the basis for some later text in 9.3.1. Can we mention= here?
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/This style of attack relies on the attacker using a path that is
=0D= approximately as fast/

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  • In the sense of this phrase, I think =E2=80=9Cfast=E2=80=9D is not re= ferring to line rate or transfer speed, but to the same amount of time =E2= =80=A6 I think the word needs to be replaced.
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/ At any time, endpoints MAY change the Destination Connection ID th= ey
=0D send to a value that has not been used on another path./

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    =0D
  • I understand the idea of changing, but what is the =E2=80=9Csend to a= value=E2=80=9D text about?
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/If path validation succeeds, the client SHOULD immediately begin
=0D= sending all future packets to the new server address/

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  • /immediately begin sending/ troubles me here, and I would prefer this= to also explicitly say that is subject to 9.4 (because we all know peopl= e read documents with certain emphasis, and I wouldn=E2=80=99t like this = specific detail to be missed.
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/Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left=
=0D for future work./

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  • I=E2=80=99d prefer to say is not described in this spec or is not sup= ported by this spec - rather than these words, I think the SHOULD indicat= es it is likely the former.
    • =0D
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Section 11:
=0D / An endpoint that detects an error SHOULD signal the existence of that=
=0D error to its peer. /

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  • Normally in other transport protocols, this requirement would be acco= mpanied by a =E2=80=9Cand SHOULD log the event=E2=80=9D to enable people = to understand what has happened.
    • =0D
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This statement is dangerous:
=0D /However, an implementor should
=0D only deviate from these requirements after careful consideration of
=0D= the performance implications of doing so./

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    =0D
  • Let me argue this statement needs to be replaced by:
    • =0D
  • =E2=80=9CThe requirements described are baed on consideration of
    =0D= the performance implications and the on other flows that could share netw= ork capacity=E2=80=9D.
    • =0D
  • I strongly argue that implementors how do not implement a PS do not c= onform to that PS. That happens, but I don=E2=80=99t see the point in a s= pec saying if you don=E2=80=99t comply you=E2=80=99re still compliant.=0D
=0D

/Limiting ACK frames avoids an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgeme= nts/

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    =0D
  • Unclear, is the text about limiting which sets of frames result in AC= K frames? or something else?
    • =0D
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In Section 13.4
=0D /An endpoint
=0D validates the use of ECN on the path, both during connection
=0D establishment and when migrating to a new path (Section 9)./

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    =0D
  • I think the QUIC endpoint MAY also validate ECN is still support by t= he path during communication. This may be necessary when ECN is enabled, = but a path change results in there no longer being support.
    • =0D
  • I think this needs to also be permitted in Section 13.4.2, allowing = QUIC to suspend ECN usage for a path or to an endpoint for which it curre= ntly has a connection.
    • =0D
=0D

/Note that this requires being able
=0D to read the ECN codepoints from the enclosing IP packet, which is not
= =0D possible on all platforms./

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    =0D
  • That sounds like it could be an issue, which it is not. Could we add = =E2=80=9COn those platforms, QUIC will not enable ECN for this endpoint=E2= =80=9D.
    • =0D
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/To provide robust connectivity in
=0D the presence of such devices, each endpoint independently validates
=0D= ECN counts and disables ECN if errors are detected./

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    =0D
  • specifically, I think this could be: /To provide robust connectivity = in
    =0D the presence of such devices, each endpoint independently validates
    =0D= ECN counts and disables ECN if the path is does not show consistent suppo= rt for ECN./
    • =0D
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/ Even if validation fails, an endpoint MAY revalidate ECN on the sa= me
=0D path at any later time in the connection./

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    =0D
  • That=E2=80=99s possible, meaning try again to use ECN? I think the te= xt needs to be clearer, that this can be used to enable ECN to be used wi= thin the connection.
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/path supports a reasonable Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU)./

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  • I think this should read /path supports a reasonable Path Maximum Tra= nsmission Unit (PMTU)/
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Also:
=0D / Prior to validating the client address, servers MUST NOT send more=0D than three times as many bytes as the number of bytes they have
=0D received./

=0D
    =0D
  • So, let me understand - does that include retransmissions? or is this= constrain within the PTO or something?
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This could be linked to #2130?

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/Failing to
=0D retire the connection IDs within approximately one PTO can cause
=0D packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a
= =0D stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route
= =0D correctly./

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  • I am unsure what was intended : I=E2=80=99ll argue this is the wrong = period and that one PTO interval seems like it could be small to me. To m= e, the PTO is an estimate of the likely response time of the remote endpo= int - that=E2=80=99s an effective period to commence a retransmission or = stimulate a probe/refresh. Sending a stateless reset is not a minor event= , and as such be tolerant to MSL or at least what in TCP is the RTO. In a= ddition, I don=E2=80=99t have a precise understanding of =E2=80=9Croute=E2= =80=9D in this context, and expected something about the path rather than= these words?
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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5dc99f3da39d7_10d43f86c96cd95c67382-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 09:53:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CAE120AF8 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:53:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9IkfSiu-8TYW for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7D9A120A59 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414298C041B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573494816; bh=UoK2y3fJwy8PEn0H5y6lsxmOsViVTbjfwpCJ9WkOJnE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DIKXTUZYhGz3OrwRlAHD1yNTDW+CgAo0T3CGqk0Q+wXga07G5lMEGKlGQzbr/edwW dau0nbGKkfP37b0+8ZHp4xXta2GxHaNeZaRQrG0B77aO+YEXjcG65L9+SEZ9weqnMS B+NW19wDthmDonfEbmrmN7Hw/MekoZ0Jn0X9ExbU= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:53:36 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport: Flow Control Tuning (#3216) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9a0203240a_19913fb6008cd96c18458e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:53:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9a0203240a_19913fb6008cd96c18458e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit / A receiver can use an autotuning mechanism to tune the frequency and amount of advertised additional credit based on a round-trip time estimate and the rate at which the receiving application consumes data, similar to common TCP implementations. / - I think this has potential for strange pathologies where flow control interacts with ACKs within the transport. I now have at least some data where we have seen problems, from one policy that updated flow control too infrequently. Achieving similar behaviour to TCP could require more than currently stated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3216 ----==_mimepart_5dc9a0203240a_19913fb6008cd96c18458e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

/ A receiver can use an autotuning mechanism to tune the frequency and
amount of advertised additional credit based on a round-trip time
estimate and the rate at which the receiving application consumes
data, similar to common TCP implementations.
/

  • I think this has potential for strange pathologies where flow control interacts with ACKs within the transport. I now have at least some data where we have seen problems, from one policy that updated flow control too infrequently. Achieving similar behaviour to TCP could require more than currently stated.

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These comments relate only to the PMTU text in -24, relative to the cu= rrent DPLPMTUD text as that now progresses to WGLC.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5dc9a0bfdf9f8_35513fd5ececd964955574-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 12:32:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5217112084F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:32:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qtEZN01o2Jxr for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C14E9120105 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45FA660926 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:32:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573504343; bh=iEVzJ9CKGqbJzm6sO9eBtW50yDo1kszsUl9LqFUjDCw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cVBdnwmsap3xDRoiyIHMUCRTAn4JdJrrGauB7do7OMxXEWOeeimYokTA0/T6ZaucS GxIZ98nlNt8ZDSGrYjcXyO1osSnKPj9RkKPU2nzbFiQN/C/kQjVOiJK/s/3T7DKv/P A+oE1hf9EGIq6+wOkdsqwg1KmxTR3nWe+Ctzkfx8= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:32:23 -0800 From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgQsOpa3k=?= Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] [HTTP/3] [editorial] 421 and future connection reuse. (#3218) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9c557ae420_6a613f9a9aacd964567694a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: bencebeky X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:32:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c557ae420_6a613f9a9aacd964567694a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status code 421 does not indicate to clients that the connection should not be reused for subsequent requests for a particular origin. It only indicates that the server is not able to produce a reponse to one particular request. See https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc7540.html#MisdirectedRequest. In case it is desirable that clients do not reuse the connection for subsequent requests for a particular origin, that it a deviation from the original description of 421 and should be called out explicitly. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3218 -- Commit Summary -- * [HTTP/3] [editorial] 421 and future connection reuse. -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3218.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3218.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3218 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c557ae420_6a613f9a9aacd964567694a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Status code 421 does not indicate to clients that the connection should
not be reused for subsequent requests for a particular origin. It only
indicates that the server is not able to produce a reponse to one
particular request. See
https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc7540.html#MisdirectedRequest.

In case it is desirable that clients do not reuse the connection for
subsequent requests for a particular origin, that it a deviation from
the original description of 421 and should be called out explicitly.

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I count eight including the additional resources or six not including
them. But what I'm most concerned about is that Sections 1 and 2 are
also part of the HTTP/3 specification.

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Each SETTINGS parameter consists of an identifier and a value, each
encoded as QUIC variable-length integer. The sentence being removed is
a remnant from the time when setting values were encoded as
length-prefixed binary blobs.

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"Do not need to" suggests that sending GOAWAY is allowed, just optional;
"do not" suggests that it is prohibited.

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Lest some readers get the impression that each request consumes a single
QUIC stream and each response consumes a single QUIC stream.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9c55dc7fcf_73293f9f9bccd95c2922fc-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 12:43:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704E0120828 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:43:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9EPTsvTBUYVR for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83DD7120825 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA506520420 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:43:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573505027; bh=0V/F/IkpTrQQ9+WjyET55d7BDroNNHFj0dDKTgEyIKg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hUyJk91ijbgMO/g8yYXMpkv4T6YZ8vcrmKE9ezTEcWYuecBSyXMjr/yzvNXUwvy7U DpuBH48389adyzwFzFd3xuIwx7ouDSwb7BaNVnMPnvC0CShS+r+y+9qGVj40qtpjdM f3akHa2DatL9vejUOW6fwmoPtclHcbkaYdMCyEJ0= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:43:47 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timer interval for retire the connection IDs (#3215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9c803bac3c_4e393fb3c22cd96c16591cc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:43:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c803bac3c_4e393fb3c22cd96c16591cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's tied up in why you would retire CIDs. Various conditions mean that a CID issuer's infrastructure might no longer be able to honor old CIDs (i.e. recognize them as valid and get them to the correct recipient). However, you usually either know that's coming or can extend the period with some temporary extra state. The CID issuer will stop accepting the CIDs in question 3 PTO after sending the frame requesting retirement. That 3-PTO period covers transit time to the peer, any time the peer decides to wait before it stops using the old CIDs, the return transit time for any packets that were already in flight before the peer stopped, and any extra time those packets might have been delayed. If packets arrive late, they will not be processed and will generate stateless resets. Those shouldn't be connection-fatal; if the peer has dropped the CIDs and corresponding tokens correctly, then they won't recognize the stateless resets as matching the current connection and will drop *them*. But you've caused packet "loss" in excess of what happened on the network if you let it get to that point. This is advice that the peer not wait more than 1 PTO, to make it likely that the issuer is not still receiving packets with old CIDs after the 3-PTO timer has expired. It's an arbitrary period, no doubt, but it's a better arbitrary period than anything else we've come up with. Alternative suggestions welcome. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3215#issuecomment-552607316 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c803bac3c_4e393fb3c22cd96c16591cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's tied up in why you would retire CIDs. Various conditions mean that a CID issuer's infrastructure might no longer be able to honor old CIDs (i.e. recognize them as valid and get them to the correct recipient). However, you usually either know that's coming or can extend the period with some temporary extra state.

The CID issuer will stop accepting the CIDs in question 3 PTO after sending the frame requesting retirement. That 3-PTO period covers transit time to the peer, any time the peer decides to wait before it stops using the old CIDs, the return transit time for any packets that were already in flight before the peer stopped, and any extra time those packets might have been delayed. If packets arrive late, they will not be processed and will generate stateless resets. Those shouldn't be connection-fatal; if the peer has dropped the CIDs and corresponding tokens correctly, then they won't recognize the stateless resets as matching the current connection and will drop them. But you've caused packet "loss" in excess of what happened on the network if you let it get to that point.

This is advice that the peer not wait more than 1 PTO, to make it likely that the issuer is not still receiving packets with old CIDs after the 3-PTO timer has expired. It's an arbitrary period, no doubt, but it's a better arbitrary period than anything else we've come up with. Alternative suggestions welcome.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9c803bac3c_4e393fb3c22cd96c16591cc-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 12:52:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6BA120828 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:52:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZA-bawgW-9-S for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F47D12006D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.47]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE5C6600DB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:50:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573505444; bh=1VwUTbt24mM0KL0NywuOWnR9Qj4/fW2e/UHW1AFuDQU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=h4CNX13yXY3es2ZoZg0oOu3ZnqxcYNc10qozVUL0ARrykBWA3D0GYwdB0EDUdfacD E2Vga+oR9683J6qFFZPWG0V8pbOuKLKYrez3hjixIouZA6aGCPYLGZfM9q//IAS/nM lOCb2ba06bXo8a9wZ+VykVCkGsNtNN3YuSMVajxo= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:50:44 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] [HTTP/3] [editorial] 421 and future connection reuse. (#3218) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9c9a46bd64_4cd13f8c746cd960239017"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:52:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c9a46bd64_4cd13f8c746cd960239017 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From 7540, as you quote, emphasis added: > The 421 (Misdirected Request) status code indicates that the request was directed at a server that is not able to produce a response. **This can be sent by a server that is not configured to produce responses for the combination of scheme and authority that are included in the request URI.** It's true that the definition of 421 doesn't call out client behavior for future requests, but the condition it describes would apply to an entire origin, so that's a logical implementation (and what I believe most user-agents do). Is your suggestion that we not explicitly call out that behavior, or make it only illustrative? >From RFC7838: > Clients receiving 421 (Misdirected Request) from an alternative service MUST remove the corresponding entry from its alternative service cache (see Section 2.2) for that origin. Dealing specifically with alternatives, this requirement has the direct effect that you don't ask the alternate for any other resources from that origin, even though you still have a connection open to it. In the current state of the draft, this has the effect of disabling HTTP/3 for that origin until you get a fresh Alt-Svc entry. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3218#issuecomment-552609859 ----==_mimepart_5dc9c9a46bd64_4cd13f8c746cd960239017 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From 7540, as you quote, emphasis added:

The 421 (Misdirected Request) status code indicates that the request was directed at a server that is not able to produce a response. This can be sent by a server that is not configured to produce responses for the combination of scheme and authority that are included in the request URI.

It's true that the definition of 421 doesn't call out client behavior for future requests, but the condition it describes would apply to an entire origin, so that's a logical implementation (and what I believe most user-agents do).

Is your suggestion that we not explicitly call out that behavior, or make it only illustrative?

From RFC7838:

Clients receiving 421 (Misdirected Request) from an alternative service MUST remove the corresponding entry from its alternative service cache (see Section 2.2) for that origin.

Dealing specifically with alternatives, this requirement has the direct effect that you don't ask the alternate for any other resources from that origin, even though you still have a connection open to it. In the current state of the draft, this has the effect of disabling HTTP/3 for that origin until you get a fresh Alt-Svc entry.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9c9a46bd64_4cd13f8c746cd960239017-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 12:54:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0A6120825 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:54:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HJzUTdsmbXtk for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E1F9120169 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F382C0B99 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:54:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573505669; bh=41tpPXPnUfWx4I8Pu6g6xFUoqf4UuRMcUwu9QccUMes=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tJkcttqUGAcWym4/3pZIX555eRJ89NBMkT8wj5wnL7SQ6FUstuQbuMxT1Uiz18G1x ZIc7o57Or+g9DhZLjsZHARtYWQ9kj4h2gPmECbuQpGo+jK7rpPKt2zydMQMM6VBx8E F2EODeHntgh2KRDpQ041xPsDKi7yMpQsn8AlpfAw= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:54:29 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] [HTTP/3] [editorial] Remove mention of redefining setting format. (#3220) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9ca85b26d0_1ce33f8b42ccd960953221"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:54:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9ca85b26d0_1ce33f8b42ccd960953221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, it's not. It's a warning that, *due* to the varint encoding, if you use the full 32-bit value space from HTTP/2, you'll get encoded into 64 bits in HTTP/3. For example, Secondary Certs sends a four-byte binary value in its setting; keeping the identical definition in HTTP/3 would waste space. Such extensions should either restrict themselves to 30 bits (to fit in the same size) or make use of the 62-bit space since they'll be encoded into that size anyway. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3220#issuecomment-552611318 ----==_mimepart_5dc9ca85b26d0_1ce33f8b42ccd960953221 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No, it's not. It's a warning that, due to the varint encoding, if you use the full 32-bit value space from HTTP/2, you'll get encoded into 64 bits in HTTP/3. For example, Secondary Certs sends a four-byte binary value in its setting; keeping the identical definition in HTTP/3 would waste space.

Such extensions should either restrict themselves to 30 bits (to fit in the same size) or make use of the 62-bit space since they'll be encoded into that size anyway.

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This is explaining the rationale for no persisting HTTP/2's bidirectional GOAWAY. However, #3129 will make this somewhat obsolete regardless.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9cb449c5a_62a43fbe58ecd9601342286-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 12:58:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919E912084F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:58:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UZ4RNAdOeD1P for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4015120828 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-19d82f6.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.75]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04CB6E0771 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:58:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573505900; bh=ijNyRsdPPEvF1nE3wTbFE2dAAF3lhFJsdMa1LJ3b6W0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=AKV0hdasK6Qx6e+7hUUX2IFiykKduGWd/odFy636aSqN4K8ecEPxgucujiv/erW+b afkMnvrGFjaDd3PJmbe0qm40B2zZx9eYIQAO0M1V3Q2e+r3ZF0LHETCDQnrXYaqvON 1KAlECRG2ZROqsDH705NXKyj3TwKTtir5mZUiz/g= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:58:20 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 40e973: Script updating gh-pages from 01190f3f. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:21:10 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: f1dc14fc587a03f136dc8a2d3fefb0d7e3d22a0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1dc14fc587a03f136dc8a2d3fefb0d7e3d22a0e Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-11-07 (Thu, 07 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Consolidate Retire Prior To instructions in section, clean up frame description Commit: 0c309a7b240b09d40a1c32fedffe663c24be09b7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c309a7b240b09d40a1c32fedffe663c24be09b7 Author: Eric Kinnear <32474881+erickinnear@users.noreply.github.com> Date: 2019-11-10 (Sun, 10 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's suggestion Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: f11934fd629ee03c564438717ac95cb3fed68043 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f11934fd629ee03c564438717ac95cb3fed68043 Author: Eric Kinnear Date: 2019-11-10 (Sun, 10 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reword to match Martin's suggestion Commit: 58894973e99612511017fac0b098f0c3910fecf7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58894973e99612511017fac0b098f0c3910fecf7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-12 (Tue, 12 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3204 from erickinnear/ek/cleanup_retire_prior_to Resolve conflicting advice on how to handle Retire Prior To Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/01190f3f33c6...58894973e996 From nobody Mon Nov 11 13:21:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770F7120118 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:21:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K2XCOnoO3xQa for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A36120046 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0029B2C33C2 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:21:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573507274; bh=xqGm3YktjJ5AIadh9uhwuIZUk6kEXV4hExtqL7lAqQc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2HnPQNKZRXghxU5dwEZn9c/jZISM1m81Ng6NjQ1MqStkY72hjk/q7G6azfOoe+STA T8idDhHuUaHJrq4JAZWFYXE3Jmdmub46qPQAhWfwIro/6isofVAYDU3Qr0DPH1vE+c pNMyal+soPykWYkM53Pskf96nChIr6S7yOWYL5D4= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:21:14 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] conflicting advice how to handle Retire Prior To (#3195) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9d0cae5312_69443fb6008cd96c451964"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:21:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d0cae5312_69443fb6008cd96c451964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3195 via #3204. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:22:25 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 25e655f0c904431b911d496857a3fdc3f210758d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/25e655f0c904431b911d496857a3fdc3f210758d Author: Dmitri Tikhonov Date: 2019-11-07 (Thu, 07 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add Retry CID change requirement to transport changelog Commit: d29ee0834e63f34041696397833eb29df2d43daf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d29ee0834e63f34041696397833eb29df2d43daf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-12 (Tue, 12 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3203 from dtikhonov/201911071345-add-2837-and-3147-to-transport-changelog Add Retry CID change requirement to transport changelog Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/58894973e996...d29ee0834e63 From nobody Mon Nov 11 13:22:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7585120142 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rBwTha9VY9TM for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BE131208C1 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:22:26 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573507347; bh=xLThavfLfX2tC3jskMvrirsPEj6JrA0kJqfELlhFask=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tOI53bdtVq6ZZwXCnOWALlJBHSlcd8UvTAbklvHrt+4aRcGFrgRQPWfU7oJceIVg4 jQYinYl0Mr+jrOkoK/wjV2KIvmTyVQJ7reo6JS29zIBJXEa9+I1Yjae5vs0Cxg2Y6k i+Up8TNXMMhsMr15xaTi1hFJlMYhsutpwtm7g6Sk= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add Retry CID change requirement to transport changelog (#3203) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9d112a0e71_32133fd45bacd9642157759"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:22:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d112a0e71_32133fd45bacd9642157759 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was previously unclear. So we don't *have* to list it as a change, but the entry is harmless. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3203#issuecomment-552621922 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d112a0e71_32133fd45bacd9642157759 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This was previously unclear. So we don't have to list it as a change, but the entry is harmless.

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Merged #3203 into master.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 13:34:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417F81200B9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:34:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LknG7K7jGZ1B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0957120018 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:34:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:34:01 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573508042; bh=IuCoHtN7gdZGZAt4cyRQ4n4h+UJnPftvnjfpph75z7M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=U740VAhib3vhEsNVRb81bKWh3V38uBMvpPvzZl4PKQak+Nsv8WQFOzVE0z/p3cLFt aV7aY3WbwHrE6DQhqppzAEGekVnVsiZ5wdbCES47Yd/gFYzvmLgJ0CpkgEpPMKWStA 6uB7FxETdFcfRuq4yx20ecBTYz1hD1ujOdcsz99g= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timer interval for retire the connection IDs (#3215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9d3c9f0bf6_42303fdfa4ccd968411635c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:34:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d3c9f0bf6_42303fdfa4ccd968411635c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now that I see this all written down like this, I wonder whether we should be insisting on the issuer waiting for acknowledgment first. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Now that I see this all written down like this, I wonder whether we should be insisting on the issuer waiting for acknowledgment first.

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----==_mimepart_5dc9d3c9f0bf6_42303fdfa4ccd968411635c-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 13:58:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1828F12089B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:58:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fji4kTDsoHll for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78B56120893 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:58:43 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573509523; bh=YRJLX4HQnQnbf9ixNneazaDlQp7t+6iNG0qhHb3FcTg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vWnjmHEFR6KbWQoyxjDIYjGCKnWJmPKvcZGYnj797JTR3SMeUN1u1DW3jrvcfUn9I umb4b8y/dLKYmffB4OtAftMVU6gddJrLEsyqIMbal2DqNgm9xVhFjbBelYcRSA09/l dtfX4E8ZvyAXF0hij2/Rm9y29D/+C3d/ZnNaE6Qo= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timer interval for retire the connection IDs (#3215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9d993524cd_6e073f85e8acd96c4839eb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:58:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d993524cd_6e073f85e8acd96c4839eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Waiting for the retirement, or waiting for the ACK of the NCID frame that carried the demand for retirement? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3215#issuecomment-552635359 ----==_mimepart_5dc9d993524cd_6e073f85e8acd96c4839eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Waiting for the retirement, or waiting for the ACK of the NCID frame that carried the demand for retirement?

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Before starting any timer. At least that way any propagation of the request to retire is taken out of consideration.

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The text itself around 1PTO is just a general note of "if you don't retire then your traffic might stop working". Would it be better to remove the specifics of 1PTO (then the 3PTO timer can either wait for ACK or not)?

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Right, I think the issues about packets that are already enqueued, etc= . are more for the person requesting retirement of the CID to know that s= ome packets might still show up (although potentially not after the ACK f= or the NCID frame that had RPT if they're all in the same queue? Not sure= I'd want to rely on that ordering even before looking at the network). T= he endpoint that is retiring the CID can simply stop sending new= packets with that CID and be fine.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

Seems reasonable to me. @ianswett do you want to do that?

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This text was specifically put in to address #2792. That issue was extensively debated, but I agree that it was not concluded.

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It's a mean deviation. This has confused at least one reader.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 16:26:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A16120091 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:26:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZXGyY8P1_dhe for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21E681200C1 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:26:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 16:26:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573518385; bh=mT4Wj+IglFLWyoHgfldvQ0MVowtcEqRsKS556fWgIcU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uhKMXFn4ayiUGY4rrh2ykiWpuzLvxr90xcBqzJ+ryCPZbfCmJecefbkXadDCscJ/6 BUrmcol4KhBTgJPcWHJn5Z6jf1gySvQ8nSu2bEPPJlnwKGL+y0v5dzGcqLB9l8CL+g qJhceUFzeNXa1v+MBwPjBgT7YE3GjkJd02dwiCJA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTTVar is not really a variance (#3223) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dc9fc31d457b_32d63fe17d4cd968615ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 00:26:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dc9fc31d457b_32d63fe17d4cd968615ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True-ish, but nor is smoothed_rtt a mean. And now you have a variable with a name that bears no semblance to the concept you use to describe it. You could instead play apologist and explain that this isn't a variance in the statistical sense, but variance in a purely colloquial sense. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3223#issuecomment-552678576 ----==_mimepart_5dc9fc31d457b_32d63fe17d4cd968615ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

True-ish, but nor is smoothed_rtt a mean. And now you have a variable with a name that bears no semblance to the concept you use to describe it. You could instead play apologist and explain that this isn't a variance in the statistical sense, but variance in a purely colloquial sense.

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Section 2 of RFC2988 says
"To compute the current RTO, a TCP sender maintains two state
variables, SRTT (smoothed round-trip time) and RTTVAR (round-trip
time variation)."

It does subsequently use the term variance in one spot, but given the original definition is a better one, I'd rather use variation than variance.

RFC6298 does the exact same thing, and defines RTTVAR as "round-trip time variation".

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 17:44:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C10E1200FE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id krhYYtQK0Ueo for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70ACE1200CD for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:43:57 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573523037; bh=me1iVZA6jqNTe4EOMctLEQfOcrmzlUFEZYqoHIeI/XY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oK/4r895jrlTE3hTfWkSgvM76a2bMu1buctRTMcS+aSfkDLiCTQEzFEt9wkn+CS5g iboo+iM6kb44cb/GJnlEOkl5V5aYonE/QvJVoD9eufml8egGMBfFSZbItRMpJca0xG 4pisyczb7t99N3n4RwrKIayDJ003HyEPaGybgwk8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Immediately close with INVALID_TOKEN (#3107) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca0e5d9f9f3_6743fcce7acd96c1285d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 01:44:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca0e5d9f9f3_6743fcce7acd96c1285d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment. By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. -If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token, -it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. It can either -proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close -({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of -INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting -for the client to timeout. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. +The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect +handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client. I reworked Martin's suggestions, though I preferred to keep the sentence I had to his first sentence. In regards to "When under duress, the server could discard such a packet." I don't think that's adding anything on top of being clear about the consequences of discarding it, so I'd rather not add it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#discussion_r344984278 ----==_mimepart_5dca0e5d9f9f3_6743fcce7acd96c1285d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

I reworked Martin's suggestions, though I preferred to keep the sentence I had to his first sentence.

In regards to "When under duress, the server could discard such a packet." I don't think that's adding anything on top of being clear about the consequences of discarding it, so I'd rather not add it.

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We really REALLY mean it.

The effect of #3159 has been to shame some implementations into the
right behaviour, but on reviewing this section, it really was
unambiguous. This tweaks the text slightly and adds a cautionary note,
but it is otherwise unchanged other than a few editorial tweaks.

Closes #3159.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3224

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  • No reading of 1-RTT before the handshake is complete

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I agree that this solves the issue **IF** implementations adhere to the spec. A change of the key schedule that would make it impossible to use 1-RTT keys before the completion of the handshake would still be my preferred solution of this issue. I'm not sure if this isn't out of scope though. > - Any received 0-RTT data that the server responds to might be due to a replay -attack. - -Therefore, the server's use of 1-RTT keys is limited before the handshake is -complete. A server MUST NOT process data from incoming 1-RTT -protected packets before the TLS handshake is complete. Because -sending acknowledgments indicates that all frames in a packet have been -processed, a server cannot send acknowledgments for 1-RTT packets until the -TLS handshake is complete. Received packets protected with 1-RTT keys MAY be -stored and later decrypted and used once the handshake is complete. + attack. + +Therefore, the server's use of 1-RTT keys MUST be limited to sending data before +the handshake is complete. A server MUST NOT process data from incoming 1-RTT Why not: "A server MUST NOT process incoming 1-RTT protected packets"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3224#pullrequestreview-315278261 ----==_mimepart_5dca29b3ae8a2_24493fc7fb2cd96065921a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

I agree that this solves the issue IF implementations adhere to the spec.

A change of the key schedule that would make it impossible to use 1-RTT keys before the completion of the handshake would still be my preferred solution of this issue. I'm not sure if this isn't out of scope though.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - Any received 0-RTT data that the server responds to might be due to a replay
-attack.
-
-Therefore, the server's use of 1-RTT keys is limited before the handshake is
-complete.  A server MUST NOT process data from incoming 1-RTT
-protected packets before the TLS handshake is complete.  Because
-sending acknowledgments indicates that all frames in a packet have been
-processed, a server cannot send acknowledgments for 1-RTT packets until the
-TLS handshake is complete.  Received packets protected with 1-RTT keys MAY be
-stored and later decrypted and used once the handshake is complete.
+  attack.
+
+Therefore, the server's use of 1-RTT keys MUST be limited to sending data before
+the handshake is complete.  A server MUST NOT process data from incoming 1-RTT

Why not: "A server MUST NOT process incoming 1-RTT protected packets"?

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This section has existed for a long time as "TBD". No longer. It also takes the opportunity to explain a little bit about what 0-RTT is for. Closes #2856. Closes #2843. From nobody Mon Nov 11 19:52:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2891200C4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:51:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xKVLPE9npsyB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:51:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5246F12002F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:51:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:51:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573530693; bh=WJ8lps9W0DP3X+N6lrueR1iWoxwN7i2U0bXptOZW6K0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=107sddbeJFwVpmfTmmgXse1d015+g5vY+KH1nxG9v52nkThxjUPEdZxvXZ+j0njjg U//04Kefr0v6xIWXMIEKkw26o1mS15Y4OhWmq3o9tXcsdiWyKRUHZlsQwix19Jum3n qdF0BTZG3l4nXtwF7S7njRRV2KzolK0vnQmNSFVg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] A day in the life (#3225) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca2c4568357_66d03f87574cd95c548825"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:51:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca2c4568357_66d03f87574cd95c548825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...and now we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall. This section has existed for a long time as "TBD". No longer. It also takes the opportunity to explain a little bit about what 0-RTT is for. Closes #2856. Closes #2843. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225 -- Commit Summary -- * A day in the life -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (48) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225 ----==_mimepart_5dca2c4568357_66d03f87574cd95c548825 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

...and now we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

This section has existed for a long time as "TBD". No longer. It also
takes the opportunity to explain a little bit about what 0-RTT is for.

Closes #2856.
Closes #2843.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225

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Closes #2850. 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This cribs Lucas' proposed tweak and makes a few other tiny adjustments.

Closes #2850.

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I noticed you didn't write anything about Retry. Was that intentional? > -suggested structure: - - - establishment - - VN - - Retry - - Crypto - - use (include migration) - - shutdown - ---> +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an +application protocol exchanges information. + +Each connection starts with an handshake phase, during which client and server s/an/a > -validation that shows up later, and explain why these two mechanisms are -required here. - -suggested structure: - - - establishment - - VN - - Retry - - Crypto - - use (include migration) - - shutdown - ---> +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an s/is/are? > +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. Separately, a server can also send +application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic +handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the +client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to +trade some security guarantees for improved latency. + +The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a +new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a +change in a middlebox. {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed +securely without adversely affecting privacy. + +For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for +a client and server to agree to remove connection state ({{termination}}). This paragraph feels incomplete. What are those different ways? Are you referring to silent close vs. immediate close? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

I noticed you didn't write anything about Retry. Was that intentional?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -suggested structure:
-
- - establishment
-   - VN
-   - Retry
-   - Crypto
- - use (include migration)
- - shutdown
-
--->
+A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the
+primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application
+protocol.  Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an
+application protocol exchanges information.
+
+Each connection starts with an handshake phase, during which client and server

s/an/a

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -validation that shows up later, and explain why these two mechanisms are
-required here.
-
-suggested structure:
-
- - establishment
-   - VN
-   - Retry
-   - Crypto
- - use (include migration)
- - shutdown
-
--->
+A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the
+primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application
+protocol.  Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an

s/is/are?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client
+before receiving any messages from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain key
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send
+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic
+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to
+trade some security guarantees for improved latency.
+
+The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a
+new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a
+change in a middlebox.  {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed
+securely without adversely affecting privacy.
+
+For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for
+a client and server to agree to remove connection state ({{termination}}).

This paragraph feels incomplete. What are those different ways? Are you referring to silent close vs. immediate close?

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:02:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FAC12011B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:02:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mbpk2k_58SZX for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADFF1120113 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.98]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4532A06B7 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:02:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573534966; bh=OvV2rDwaH+GiDZ6Z1319rPySaOmxC6braSrGuhVUJeE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Sqv1K+oMxfy8sUiP2XG43rHjwUsPdd1uov92YsYATZKZdsONmB70DK/DuvIl+xs11 ogN4oLY90N4V9fhJvvpsVl0mnqTPTvV1KE4W3Us26jy/pPj4620aMmi8y+71JpAPEv vWJeugphO4XMIR/Hn06TaWhr1jyElsSc4tkplI1I= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:02:46 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] A day in the life (#3225) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca3cf6c58b5_6e4f3ff1f9ccd96085040"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:02:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca3cf6c58b5_6e4f3ff1f9ccd96085040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -validation that shows up later, and explain why these two mechanisms are -required here. - -suggested structure: - - - establishment - - VN - - Retry - - Crypto - - use (include migration) - - shutdown - ---> +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an I really didn't know which here. But I think that you are right. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225#discussion_r345018357 ----==_mimepart_5dca3cf6c58b5_6e4f3ff1f9ccd96085040 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -validation that shows up later, and explain why these two mechanisms are
-required here.
-
-suggested structure:
-
- - establishment
-   - VN
-   - Retry
-   - Crypto
- - use (include migration)
- - shutdown
-
--->
+A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the
+primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application
+protocol.  Streams ({{streams}}) is the primary mechanism by which an

I really didn't know which here. But I think that you are right.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client
+before receiving any messages from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain key
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send
+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic
+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to
+trade some security guarantees for improved latency.
+
+The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a
+new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a
+change in a middlebox.  {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed
+securely without adversely affecting privacy.
+
+For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for
+a client and server to agree to remove connection state ({{termination}}).

Yeah, I had that in the first cut, but then removed it. The referenced section has enough information about closing. It's not super-important to duplicate all that text when it is so succinctly stated later.

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----==_mimepart_5dca3d23e5fac_6a343ff3166cd95c7644b1-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:03:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C789120120 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:03:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TyZpQu74m9zE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A45512013F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:03:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:03:36 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573535016; bh=FwX8iIDcneUUAvH20kbDmKaNFYCKgSQEKLdx+rz8j+g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=K7AMT9SHYVWc8e5ZdRX9O+8ac5699WXuVWFfDNzROP8PkaKqcD+gi16Ga2cuUG3a5 XK8PD0mh3gvEqi2txp5HuaspTyZXPCPMkrlQl3j/bqNzUA68NpQCs3qci0+oH3k6rz sdRa+8o09TZfVKEEng4Rq/fHQeE0YeMIL1bH2Va8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] A day in the life (#3225) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca3d287fc9e_4aae3fe2118cd95c4438c4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:03:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca3d287fc9e_4aae3fe2118cd95c4438c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I noticed you didn't write anything about Retry. Was that intentional? Retry is there, but at one level higher up (`confirms that endpoints are willing to communicate ({{validate-handshake}})`). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225#issuecomment-552735538 ----==_mimepart_5dca3d287fc9e_4aae3fe2118cd95c4438c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I noticed you didn't write anything about Retry. Was that intentional?

Retry is there, but at one level higher up (confirms that endpoints are willing to communicate ({{validate-handshake}})).

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----==_mimepart_5dca3d287fc9e_4aae3fe2118cd95c4438c4-- From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:10:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA62312001E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:10:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPVYccq6OY1h for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 233CE1200FB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:10:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:10:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573535448; bh=SnILmaElCl5ABCaXGSyZRdKY2QTuLiBSnoH9JqYNpME=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=f4wMh5qzTaIp/uQ3MA7w/9WQvS369PMAV/QJpx7Xi9PVhyHKDwhJD5gYxXW8PbtUF sf4ksmNczxpeph1nqClxJzswyGgG9u6TomW8seOQB4dHzCFC1YThveat3uvOn3/i3u CNUCexi38EoZBN4ZeoZeqXkaQSn5emZlvM0s3qyc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Summarize where frames can be used (#3227) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca3ed83d8f9_762c3f8acd0cd964365860"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:10:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca3ed83d8f9_762c3f8acd0cd964365860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's still slightly odd where we have this setup between TLS and transport, but it seems like replicating the information might be enough. Closes #2721. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3227 -- Commit Summary -- * Summarize where frames can be used -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (67) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3227.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3227.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3227 ----==_mimepart_5dca3ed83d8f9_762c3f8acd0cd964365860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's still slightly odd where we have this setup between TLS and transport, but it seems like replicating the information might be enough.

Closes #2721.

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Closes #2636. From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:16:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E271200FB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:16:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gc8utY443MzM for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2687B1200F6 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:16:32 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573535792; bh=vJ8phrXr2XboGmfUa9a+sNPGxmUCQWhqFXv4Hyv0L6c=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=2PlKWWv/4kc/NHXvQ00/9LlwUtR83LUZpPdxMZSUFRl+xB2wAdM0INxQrJZyHVDqk QUsoIYTYjh8yBsoaPAil2UGpuixHIJYQDSavqOg4YL2GVXQ0vyZqAMFAQLjNmVnGfp QGgB3wSuv6ngKZNmdZOYBtxvgJIAPu+sAADEiAQI= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 6e0b63: Script updating gh-pages from f0d067db. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:17:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902A01200F6 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:17:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SovehxXFbaF9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F221C12001E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:17:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:17:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573535850; bh=pqk9DisO9jJc9OgekF/e08swNllDZtNxbbTyTZoyzAg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ypnwNOEb3ha048NMokMf26IAUr57CK3ldtjgKRjeCDOGbwVApaeUnpjwibofFL1DV 2qmesGEUJm+HwfNh1O6svE45/yUM7SJxON1z4CXrolKHO5FuhsKjNO4dDEOnLE1ER/ phGSkkqpH8KbV5kSUrq0M4v+Cdpa77XWBXi2f2+Q= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] allow sending PADDING after receiving a non-ack-eliciting packet (#3135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca406ae42a5_78333f8d0eecd9688746ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:17:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca406ae42a5_78333f8d0eecd9688746ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't intend to do anything about this one. As Ian notes, you can use other reasons to justify sending of anything, just don't justify the sending on the basis of having received a non-ack-eliciting packet or you will get into the sort trouble that doesn't end. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3135#issuecomment-552738055 ----==_mimepart_5dca406ae42a5_78333f8d0eecd9688746ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't intend to do anything about this one. As Ian notes, you can use other reasons to justify sending of anything, just don't justify the sending on the basis of having received a non-ack-eliciting packet or you will get into the sort trouble that doesn't end.

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Closes #2311. From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:25:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893C712010E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:25:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7nwfXv5nZm9n for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40D6112001E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D0CC6094D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:25:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573536343; bh=yho+vMgwr0khm+EfgJ5yNFl5zITU8r5rDWGYqaCu83s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=NJByK00SVsV8qy1z3ppehocbBbWGdmfHabipYhp9ggx4zTxLOMmehPYMcMjV6qgJt Ich+fdtk3JFW07J+K2TrXA9axZ3sKC52EpBIgw1wBQ0xLQ/+ERWwamC8BY7XJ38F9l Q8BQyiJK72MLdP1m3Ie/TReKb1RIwRVs/M/SAHEo= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:25:43 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 3b1e03: Script updating gh-pages from 2ce6f291. [ci skip] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:25:46 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 3b1e038a51eb4dd4d955fc18b6c16596a255a0f6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3b1e038a51eb4dd4d955fc18b6c16596a255a0f6 Author: ID Bot Date: 2019-11-12 (Tue, 12 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M index.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-http.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-http.txt A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.txt A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.txt A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-tls.txt A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html A restore-path-state/draft-ietf-quic-transport.txt A restore-path-state/index.html Log Message: ----------- Script updating gh-pages from 2ce6f291. [ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:31:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DAC12011C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:31:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BrCnnos5ktTs for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38DBC120113 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:31:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:31:06 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573536666; bh=VtFmwH1M4N4FfIBK+W/6WHSjIQfGEd7YaOA3n7Vslrw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=uwZpV/7buIIgtOGYz91vtr8QZfo8FhYGDmDYdHlWFE69bBTiZP67SMmfvcw6fwypa NgxXassjd3/RkqLfupqNHX0R/ummRlxF4jrzBiujGiQHakf3xGFD+a+tujQFljHuKt EksTGAmc9OPrQ3u1vwTW2Dm3bT/mAJj5UCWFA3Rc= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] b3142e: Use no_application_protocol more Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:31:10 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/abort Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: b3142eaacf5fe20f62e1a6096eefee5d78cc0b6f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b3142eaacf5fe20f62e1a6096eefee5d78cc0b6f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-12 (Tue, 12 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Use no_application_protocol more The old text used the non-specific "abort" here, but we can use the right error code. Closes #2500. 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The old text used the non-specific "abort" here, but we can point to the right error code.

Closes #2500.

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This is really just an observation, because there is no real way we can
insist on people doing this sort of thing, but being aware of the
performance implication of spoofed migrations might motivate solutions.

Closes #2311.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:34:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7372312011E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8b1_HjPLf31g for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76236120113 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:34:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:34:10 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573536850; bh=TO9U+zLG5nEdFZ2XHfRLSrI5QtyjMJvgJybKVFQlQtM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JnTgs35By9nShG0BW/BCvBHi9uBaoF1YddtPA/kN7VSVpwJc1zWR1Jh7gqk7Afm42 oQ5iBxDkz5d6kdEvHNfhdiwe+xNZ4k8/bX98jAOJ+gVYW0Wrd6meI4dv7sJPoR/N6p F63PcXojaEmR06ekIrC7Qy9Q5E4MgoqWhpGM2Bb4= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use no_application_protocol more (#3228) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca44528bce4_24cc3f91ed6cd9645480b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:34:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca44528bce4_24cc3f91ed6cd9645480b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann approved this pull request. > An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate over. Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC -version that the client has selected. If the server cannot select a compatible -combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the -connection. A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an application -protocol incompatible with the protocol version being used. +version that the client has selected. If the server MUST treat the inability to Did you mean to remove the "If"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3228#pullrequestreview-315302437 ----==_mimepart_5dca44528bce4_24cc3f91ed6cd9645480b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  
 An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can operate
 over.  Servers MUST select an application protocol compatible with the QUIC
-version that the client has selected.  If the server cannot select a compatible
-combination of application protocol and QUIC version, it MUST abort the
-connection.  A client MUST abort a connection if the server picks an application
-protocol incompatible with the protocol version being used.
+version that the client has selected.  If the server MUST treat the inability to

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This should make it a tiny bit clearer. As Roni observes, we can't really let invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE through without some sort of special handling. This proposes that. Unfortunately, this is a little more than an editorial fix. So I'm going to ask that the issue be promoted. Closes #2475. From nobody Mon Nov 11 21:40:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72D9120113 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UquWNDQeeDLG for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADACA12011C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89658C0057 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573537232; bh=TcHxiIseQiV6FaSmAJbturUos3UNJpomrrNMKe/Mlco=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=MC1PaALwVmKWf8eZRMB1pQJhRe83CmCKqK5X4KRZV/GtN3qlKDPwyQMq+zrd38bz3 qbysv4MMXO6TJ2WSunpSBniRxWWb4yGjB0Q3m02GSFJW45j202FydGAPfkXUpRsIxJ BBB1PtXFnhTVRJw7UPIe1erJRwU3Ac+6RuOZkcOk= Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:40:32 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 62d005: Script updating gh-pages from 36ad30da. 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When looking into Roni's comment, I realize that we aren't really clear enough about this invalid case and some (small amount of) discussion might be necessary to confirm that this change is OK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2475#issuecomment-552743146 ----==_mimepart_5dca45d3181e7_138f3fc5596cd96012441a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm going to request that this be re-assessed. When looking into Roni's comment, I realize that we aren't really clear enough about this invalid case and some (small amount of) discussion might be necessary to confirm that this change is OK.

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The looping case was a little unclear. This should make it a tiny bit
clearer. As Roni observes, we can't really let invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE
through without some sort of special handling. This proposes that.

Unfortunately, this is a little more than an editorial fix. So I'm
going to ask that the issue be promoted.

Closes #2475.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3230

Commit Summary

  • Close in response to invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE

File Changes

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The only mechanism available to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}). -An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the -existence of the error to its peer. +An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the What is an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3230#pullrequestreview-315304778 ----==_mimepart_5dca46c72222c_11403f91b8acd9687945ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2709,8 +2710,10 @@ frame risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available
 to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to
 use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}).
 
-An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the
-existence of the error to its peer.
+An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2709,8 +2710,10 @@ frame risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available
 to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to
 use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}).
 
-An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the
-existence of the error to its peer.
+An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the

One that has an reason phrase that overruns the packet would do it. I can't see any other reason.

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OK, it looks like ekr moved DTLS to match. Closing this with no action.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2709,8 +2710,10 @@ frame risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available
 to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to
 use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}).
 
-An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the
-existence of the error to its peer.
+An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the

I don't think we need any extra rules for this special case. Just do what you'd normally do: close the connection with a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2397,12 +2397,13 @@ transmission of CONNECTION_CLOSE frames to validated addresses or drop packets
 without response if the response would be more than three times larger than the
 received packet.
 
-After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.
-An endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MAY send a single packet
-containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering the draining state, using a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate.  An endpoint MUST NOT
-send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended.
+After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to
+contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.  An

Looks like Github swallowed my previous comment on this line:
How would you even parse an invalid packet? What does it mean to "appear to contain" a frame?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2709,8 +2710,10 @@ frame risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available
 to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to
 use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}).
 
-An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the
-existence of the error to its peer.
+An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the

I see, you think that it is enough to rely on rate limiting of the CONNECTION_CLOSE packet (c.f., #3095). That would also work.

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No need for any additional special processing rules. Closes #2475. Closes #3230. 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If we get one, rely on the back-off that we require endpoints to
implement when they enter the closing state. No need for any additional
special processing rules (as mentioned in #3230).

Closes #2475.
Closes #3230.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3231

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----==_mimepart_5dca48f9565d0_14f33fd92eacd9643303a9-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 02:23:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5A112003E for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:23:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SNeNBBjF7uFd for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16962120013 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:23:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 02:23:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573554233; bh=LzT4IEcXu3AyrkXJYTlTl80HrLl0aSYvZF69AsoTEKg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bDPXVaSr6r0DY4V75FW0dxBw/Oyo0VE0nRXjH/UdBBh2BlWOexEDbdYaYj40+3Wet dSDPIGy+BptL0QaNR/VbC/RmH7X0ZKNuNJUD1VdSY7EWYcc6YpDblnX+YQFtuHmiAP 24Aa3aQG84Uy2qHK3UiaHZqowlFg+cjn9/FSp4ro= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Bad CONNECTION_CLOSE isn't special (#3231) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dca88391827f_66aa3ffde94cd96c300271"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:23:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dca88391827f_66aa3ffde94cd96c300271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3231#pullrequestreview-315428314 ----==_mimepart_5dca88391827f_66aa3ffde94cd96c300271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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@erickinnear approved this pull request.

As long as this doesn't lead to confusion (for example: we recently tightened up the MUST around resetting state) for folks when reading this, I think it's really valuable to actually state this in the draft rather than hint at it throughout -- looks good!

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Thank you. Closing PR since it would be obsoleted by #3129.

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Closed #3221.

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Thanks for the response. In light of your explanation I'm not sure I could improve the wording here, or that it would need to be improved in the first place.

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Closed #3218.

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How does that work? Is that a future version of DTLS?

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Thank you for the response. I reworded the PR to capture your explanation. PTAL.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2709,8 +2710,10 @@ frame risks a peer missing the first such packet.  The only mechanism available
 to an endpoint that continues to receive data for a terminated connection is to
 use the stateless reset process ({{stateless-reset}}).
 
-An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST NOT signal the
-existence of the error to its peer.
+An endpoint that receives an invalid CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MUST treat the
+message as being equivalent to a CONNECTION_CLOSE with the INTERNAL_ERROR error
+code.  The endpoint MAY send a single CONNECTION_CLOSE in response, but it MUST
+then enter the draining period; see {{draining}}.

Would INTERNAL_ERROR not suggest a locally induced inconsistent state as opposed to an observed remote inconsistent state? If so, I think it is important to make a distinction since it affects who is to blame and consequently where to debug.

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Perhaps also some discussion on termination - silent idle timeout vs connection close, and risk of loss of close packet. > -required here. - -suggested structure: - - - establishment - - VN - - Retry - - Crypto - - use (include migration) - - shutdown - ---> +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application +protocol exchanges information. That is not necessarily the case with DATAGRAM extension. > - - VN - - Retry - - Crypto - - use (include migration) - - shutdown - ---> +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application +protocol exchanges information. + +Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server +establish a shared secret using the cryptographic handshake protocol +{{QUIC-TLS}} and negotiate the application protocol. The handshake +({{handshake}}) confirms that endpoints are willing to communicate ```suggestion ({{handshake}}) confirms that both endpoints are willing to communicate ``` > +Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server +establish a shared secret using the cryptographic handshake protocol +{{QUIC-TLS}} and negotiate the application protocol. The handshake +({{handshake}}) confirms that endpoints are willing to communicate +({{validate-handshake}}) and establishes parameters for the connection +({{transport-parameters}}). + +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. Separately, a server can also send +application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic +handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the +client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to +trade some security guarantees for improved latency. ```suggestion trade some security guarantees for reduced latency. ``` ... or to buffer packets until the handshake is confirmed. > +({{transport-parameters}}). + +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. Separately, a server can also send +application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic +handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the +client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to +trade some security guarantees for improved latency. + +The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a +new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a +change in a middlebox. {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed +securely without adversely affecting privacy. That is a strong claim. "... with as little impact on privacy as practically possible" would be more precise. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225#pullrequestreview-315530990 ----==_mimepart_5dcab5377b908_62fa3fe552acd95c22964e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

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That is not necessarily the case with DATAGRAM extension.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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That is a strong claim. "... with as little impact on privacy as pract= ically possible" would be more precise.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server
+establish a shared secret using the cryptographic handshake protocol
+{{QUIC-TLS}} and negotiate the application protocol.  The handshake
+({{handshake}}) confirms that endpoints are willing to communicate
+({{validate-handshake}}) and establishes parameters for the connection
+({{transport-parameters}}).
+
+An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the
+handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client
+before receiving any messages from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain key
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send
+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic
+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to
+trade some security guarantees for improved latency.

This section reads as if 1-RTT could be relaxed while it probably only intends to address 0-RTT. See also #3224

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2720,17 +2720,19 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
-carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the application protocol that uses QUIC.

It's more like a transport MUST NOT - surely an application protocol can get through a connection without sending a RESET.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -required here.
-
-suggested structure:
-
- - establishment
-   - VN
-   - Retry
-   - Crypto
- - use (include migration)
- - shutdown
-
--->
+A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the
+primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application
+protocol.  Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application
+protocol exchanges information.

Heh. True, though since that extension is not part of the transport draft and not discussed in it at all, I think this sentence is quite correct as is.

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  cause a stream to be terminated.  A local instance of the application protocol
 uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which
 triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM.
 
-Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the
-protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.  Application protocols might require
-certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to guarantee consistent state
-between endpoints.  Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling
-streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint.
+Resetting a stream without the involvement of the application protocol could
+cause the application protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.  Application
+protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to

to split hairs what does "might require certain streams to be reliably delivered" really mean here? Streams produce reliable byte streams. Is the intent more to say something like "applications expect streams to run to completion" and that premature exit causes that assumption to break?

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Small comments

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2720,17 +2720,19 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
-carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the application protocol that uses QUIC.

STOP_SENDING instigates RESET_STREAM, so this is a bit of a confusing statement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  cause a stream to be terminated.  A local instance of the application protocol
 uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which
 triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM.
 
-Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the
-protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.  Application protocols might require
-certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to guarantee consistent state
-between endpoints.  Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling
-streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint.
+Resetting a stream without the involvement of the application protocol could
+cause the application protocol to enter an unrecoverable state.  Application
+protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to

+1 to Lucas point. Personally, I'd delete this sentence because I think it's not adding much and as written it's confusing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Each connection starts with an handshake phase, during which client and server
+Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server

unless of course your intended audience is primarily from East End

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----==_mimepart_5dcadd80a4b08_4353fb36eccd95c98390-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 09:06:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E246D12009C for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:06:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a1HRCCZ94C-o for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7EAF120123 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41EC2C3640 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:06:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573578376; bh=RCLHXg5Vl9bd9rfWPmPzm0dqb/G+6+AtaN+NlHzYtw4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LolhZvgHDvKhw4HZLJH0Au6WKVkHz1hEByZvg9otsR1XLrwsfcnQM7Qv0SoiBTxbt A2zabiU1+G/Ts4cDO10xOPHc/hrB55kNPdMf8i3jpiBQDfJmaeCK0+qhmAuPe8Sh20 LhEQETGtno7dn7ui8o65epZvpKeIW84kB1nKDQMQ= Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:06:16 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timer interval for retire the connection IDs (#3215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcae688d5d79_64353feda58cd96c2822d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:06:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcae688d5d79_64353feda58cd96c2822d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the other place, it just says "SHOULD... in a timely manner," but there's some value in defining what constitutes "timely." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3215#issuecomment-552989112 ----==_mimepart_5dcae688d5d79_64353feda58cd96c2822d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In the other place, it just says "SHOULD... in a timely manner," but there's some value in defining what constitutes "timely."

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----==_mimepart_5dcae688d5d79_64353feda58cd96c2822d5-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 09:51:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE0612097F for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:51:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ga4ax8FtX-r8 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9DDA120959 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4E58C11B6 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:51:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573581100; bh=3/jZp+FTaPkxmyBJ13jKZg9gYsRlhH9VgGy/yk1P0Tw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ruJBy7NNpdeJNoSHBMEfxh0r3/R11Wa7RtvXNvQWzcut7cIy8W0apRV2158CGjs9l qdRD61gXk41XjeHFdIZ1XJm8nbVKFA4v4+cMjiwRO9L+zqDh186vtMsyxfapo9XMDD 2ded2M2qFURblV3vdS/Z4fGuTnd0eOG9oG72K4U0= Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:51:40 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Timer interval for retire the connection IDs (#3215) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcaf12c9e259_b8d3fa2324cd95c478891"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:51:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcaf12c9e259_b8d3fa2324cd95c478891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I might argue that the 3 PTO suggestion for the issuer makes sense. We need some guidance for the issuer that is easy to implement and also tolerant to reordering. 3 PTO is a good fit for that. The question IMO is if we need something more than that. It might be possible to argue that the current recommendation of 1 PTO is a rough derivation of the 3 PTO rule, but it's confusing. Maybe something like "SHOULD ... in a timely manner, as the issuer of the CIDs might drop the retired CIDs as early as 3 PTO" would be enough. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3215#issuecomment-553011062 ----==_mimepart_5dcaf12c9e259_b8d3fa2324cd95c478891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I might argue that the 3 PTO suggestion for the issuer makes sense. We need some guidance for the issuer that is easy to implement and also tolerant to reordering. 3 PTO is a good fit for that.

The question IMO is if we need something more than that. It might be possible to argue that the current recommendation of 1 PTO is a rough derivation of the 3 PTO rule, but it's confusing.

Maybe something like "SHOULD ... in a timely manner, as the issuer of the CIDs might drop the retired CIDs as early as 3 PTO" would be enough.

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I suspect you're right that we need to retouch this language based on the language in http-core that will (we expect) permit trying HTTP/3 directly, without Alt-Svc. That piece is tracked by #2223; mentioning it to make sure they're linked.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1941,7 +1941,9 @@ In HTTP/3, setting values are variable-length integers (6, 14, 30, or 62 bits
 long) rather than fixed-length 32-bit fields as in HTTP/2.  This will often
 produce a shorter encoding, but can produce a longer encoding for settings which
 use the full 32-bit space.  Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine
-the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding.
+their value to limit it to 30 bits for more efficient encoding, or to make use
+of the 62-bit space (for example, if encoding the original value often requires
+eight bytes anyway).

This parenthetical feels kind of awkward; maybe just something like "or might choose to make use of the 62-bit space if more than 30 bits are required"?

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An endpoint MUST NOT -send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of -CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended. +After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to +contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state. An A packet might "appear to contain a frame" if it contains the truncated beginning of a frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3230#discussion_r345359295 ----==_mimepart_5dcaf3d562219_5863f96282cd960489253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2397,12 +2397,13 @@ transmission of CONNECTION_CLOSE frames to validated addresses or drop packets
 without response if the response would be more than three times larger than the
 received packet.
 
-After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.
-An endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MAY send a single packet
-containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering the draining state, using a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate.  An endpoint MUST NOT
-send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended.
+After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to
+contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.  An

A packet might "appear to contain a frame" if it contains the truncated beginning of a frame.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Nov 12 10:12:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E8B12008A for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P5gjtoyzRtMR for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D981D12084D for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391361C03BF for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573582375; bh=eLcCrQ/2o/PlmM2gmzKrOlgr5Y/eqTvPfCwp2Qkz4iY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Xgr3hj8eG0ZwzufxO20YlctPr/h6GmsDrNMSDT+koQ8PB5h42WDfps5X4o/SYFPnX WYstCwoAmgS+BmBtLyOj6aLN0Q/EFUsPzwRBoQXU7EeAL8fhlBt89Sba9+BpySU2jd GnwzOcxC3h659IBRpjxVzTMPzPGEnQChsW3RHMyw= Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:12:55 -0800 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clearer text for application errors (#3226) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcaf6272a70f_56073fae3e6cd96035584c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:12:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcaf6272a70f_56073fae3e6cd96035584c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -2720,17 +2720,19 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the affected stream. -RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC. RESET_STREAM -carries an application error code. Only the application protocol is able to +RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the application protocol that uses QUIC. ```suggestion RESET_STREAM MUST only be instigated by the application protocol that uses QUIC. ``` @mikkelfj is right -- in isolation, this reads like a requirement on the application, not a restriction on everyone else. > cause a stream to be terminated. A local instance of the application protocol uses a direct API call and a remote instance uses the STOP_SENDING frame, which triggers an automatic RESET_STREAM. -Resetting a stream without knowledge of the application protocol could cause the -protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. Application protocols might require -certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to guarantee consistent state -between endpoints. Application protocols SHOULD define rules for handling -streams that are prematurely cancelled by either endpoint. +Resetting a stream without the involvement of the application protocol could +cause the application protocol to enter an unrecoverable state. Application +protocols might require certain streams to be reliably delivered in order to It's the "critical stream" idea from HTTP/3 -- if you blow up a request stream, the HTTP connection is fine. If you blow up a QPACK stream, the connection dies in flames. Some streams are application-critical, and only the application knows which, so only the application can decide which streams to kill. In a transport world, though, "reliably delivered" brings up different overtones. Maybe "Resetting certain streams could disrupt the consistency of application-layer state between the endpoints."? As to confusion, this is the rationale for the restriction in the previous paragraph. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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@mikkelfj is right -- in isolation, this reads like a requir= ement on the application, not a restriction on everyone else.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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It's the "critical stream" idea from HTTP/3 -- if you blow up a reques= t stream, the HTTP connection is fine. If you blow up a QPACK stream, th= e connection dies in flames. Some streams are application-critical, and = only the application knows which, so only the application can decide whic= h streams to kill. In a transport world, though, "reliably delivered" br= ings up different overtones. Maybe "Resetting certain streams could disr= upt the consistency of application-layer state between the endpoints."?=0D

As to confusion, this is the rationale for the restriction in the prev= ious paragraph. Maybe putting the rationale first and following with "Th= erefore, RESET_STREAM MUST only be instigated...." would help?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2720,17 +2720,19 @@ connection in a recoverable state, the endpoint can send a RESET_STREAM frame
 ({{frame-reset-stream}}) with an appropriate error code to terminate just the
 affected stream.
 
-RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the protocol using QUIC.  RESET_STREAM
-carries an application error code.  Only the application protocol is able to
+RESET_STREAM MUST be instigated by the application protocol that uses QUIC.

@ianswett from memory, but isn't that still the app doing this? STOP_SENDING can have the application signalling RESET, but it requires the app to choose the error/status code.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1941,7 +1941,9 @@ In HTTP/3, setting values are variable-length integers (6, 14, 30, or 62 bits
 long) rather than fixed-length 32-bit fields as in HTTP/2.  This will often
 produce a shorter encoding, but can produce a longer encoding for settings which
 use the full 32-bit space.  Settings ported from HTTP/2 might choose to redefine
-the format of their settings to avoid using the 62-bit encoding.
+their value to limit it to 30 bits for more efficient encoding, or to make use
+of the 62-bit space (for example, if encoding the original value often requires
+eight bytes anyway).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2397,12 +2397,13 @@ transmission of CONNECTION_CLOSE frames to validated addresses or drop packets
 without response if the response would be more than three times larger than the
 received packet.
 
-After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.
-An endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MAY send a single packet
-containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering the draining state, using a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate.  An endpoint MUST NOT
-send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended.
+After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to
+contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.  An

"or an invalid packet that appears to contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE_ frame," is a pretty big category of potential issues. Does this need to be called out as separate from the general invalid packet case?

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@mikkelfj, this is DTLS 1.3.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Nov 12 13:16:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE50120105 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:16:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YDiE_hjZH42d for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5743E120019 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:16:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:16:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573593375; bh=TVrAlv+D+0dWv31idKaErZ+eEaEfncNRAq+JL6dChIQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c6g2zyQbTl9GWxSCu5x0H0yek4qDhEl9pSiM18L7SvOHJHQ7uSisPa/g9ERepMhpU NJ1MBUMwR3Oi+IyST2r+3CiV36MEk5MtyWUgh2Qnh60zULlzV641tpCtPvw+PP3gBb ZiBSO81rYYEPTnG5ktWAq/0bBS/6TkBWP9LdVasw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] A day in the life (#3225) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcb211f9df48_51983fc9fa8cd9681463087"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:16:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcb211f9df48_51983fc9fa8cd9681463087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +({{transport-parameters}}). + +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. Separately, a server can also send +application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic +handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the +client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to +trade some security guarantees for improved latency. + +The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a +new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a +change in a middlebox. {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed +securely without adversely affecting privacy. I'm surprised that you aren't also contesting the security claim as well :) Because that too is in question. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +({{transport-parameters}}).
+
+An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the
+handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client
+before receiving any messages from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain key
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send
+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic
+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to
+trade some security guarantees for improved latency.
+
+The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a
+new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a
+change in a middlebox.  {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed
+securely without adversely affecting privacy.

I'm surprised that you aren't also contesting the security claim as well :) Because that too is in question.

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An endpoint MUST NOT -send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of -CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended. +After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to +contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state. An I think that we'll just go with #3231 and avoid having to worry about this definition. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3230#discussion_r345451126 ----==_mimepart_5dcb2275c3efa_143c3fa9682cd96c12208da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2397,12 +2397,13 @@ transmission of CONNECTION_CLOSE frames to validated addresses or drop packets
 without response if the response would be more than three times larger than the
 received packet.
 
-After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.
-An endpoint that receives a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame MAY send a single packet
-containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame before entering the draining state, using a
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frame and a NO_ERROR code if appropriate.  An endpoint MUST NOT
-send further packets, which could result in a constant exchange of
-CONNECTION_CLOSE frames until the closing period on either peer ended.
+After receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, or an invalid packet that appears to
+contain a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame, endpoints enter the draining state.  An

I think that we'll just go with #3231 and avoid having to worry about this definition.

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@martinthomson thanks

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1979,7 +1979,10 @@ to verify the peer's ownership of the unvalidated address.
 An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST protect
 against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and
 {{on-path-spoofing}}.  An endpoint MAY skip validation of a peer address if that
-address has been seen recently.
+address has been seen recently.  In particular, if an endpoint returns to a
+previously-validated path after detecting some form of spurious migration,
+skipping address validation and restoring loss detection and congestion state
+can reduce the performance impact of the attack.

The way I think about this is that the old address validation and congestion state are maintained until the new address is validated. ie: In my thinking, the responder never left the original path.

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +({{transport-parameters}}).
+
+An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the
+handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client
+before receiving any messages from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain key
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send
+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic
+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to
+trade some security guarantees for improved latency.
+
+The use of connection IDs ({{connection-id}}) allows connections to migrate to a
+new network path, both as a direct choice of an endpoint and when forced by a
+change in a middlebox.  {{migration}} describes how a migration can be performed
+securely without adversely affecting privacy.

We all know that security is an illusion :)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-Each connection starts with an handshake phase, during which client and server
+Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server

@MikeBishop Cockney an 'andshake

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An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST protect against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and {{on-path-spoofing}}. An endpoint MAY skip validation of a peer address if that -address has been seen recently. +address has been seen recently. In particular, if an endpoint returns to a +previously-validated path after detecting some form of spurious migration, +skipping address validation and restoring loss detection and congestion state +can reduce the performance impact of the attack. Yeah, that's harder to write down, I think. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3229#discussion_r345462125 ----==_mimepart_5dcb28429dfcb_50e23fae2a6cd9601561238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1979,7 +1979,10 @@ to verify the peer's ownership of the unvalidated address.
 An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST protect
 against potential attacks as described in {{address-spoofing}} and
 {{on-path-spoofing}}.  An endpoint MAY skip validation of a peer address if that
-address has been seen recently.
+address has been seen recently.  In particular, if an endpoint returns to a
+previously-validated path after detecting some form of spurious migration,
+skipping address validation and restoring loss detection and congestion state
+can reduce the performance impact of the attack.

Yeah, that's harder to write down, I think.

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  • limit cwnd in slow start pseudocode update
  • Jana's comments and Ian's text change

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----==_mimepart_5dcb2a9aaab_130a3ffb044cd9681895132-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 14:04:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7659512011D for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:04:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iowmBaCF0gmk for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE911120096 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175CB660051 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:04:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573596291; bh=Wa6ffX3Jgc7ISR/WndZHjrTLoSew1i0y3DZkpl30jwc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gUFw+mX2mu1qu45gmEogg0vuoKi85Qo4aPxSqph+6Tjz8DwNx4Il8/gizQCE8jBLP QsIzQI58WRXFVKO3wf6QAtEm4MT+GlhUynOZK+GGDuRekYFEtyMQrQbzXz6opdH0LM eIZ4wVcIDX1IfxRz1c8OY490cXLe1GVQ4IVFVa74= Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:04:51 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Limit CWND increase in slow start (#3232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcb2c839037_31f93ffa80ecd960960625"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:04:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcb2c839037_31f93ffa80ecd960960625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1368,7 +1377,14 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets. return if (congestion_window < ssthresh): // Slow start. - congestion_window += acked_packet.size + if (pacing): + congestion_window += acked_packet.size + else: + // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to + // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in {{?RFC3465}} + if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size): + cwnd_increase += bytes_acked cwnd_increase doesn't appear to be used anywhere to change cwnd/etc. Are more changes necessary? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#pullrequestreview-315876486 ----==_mimepart_5dcb2c839037_31f93ffa80ecd960960625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,14 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked

cwnd_increase doesn't appear to be used anywhere to change cwnd/etc. Are more changes necessary?

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@goelvidhi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,14 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked

It is only used to limit the increase to 2*MSS in slow start

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Reopened #2792.

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Calling this editorial, since it looks like it can be addressed without adding requirements.

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Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application +protocol exchanges information. Streams are the primary means. Extensions might define additional ones. > +A QUIC connection is a stateful interaction between a client and server, the +primary purpose of which is to support the exchange of data by an application +protocol. Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application +protocol exchanges information. + +Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server +establish a shared secret using the cryptographic handshake protocol +{{QUIC-TLS}} and negotiate the application protocol. The handshake +({{handshake}}) confirms that both endpoints are willing to communicate +({{validate-handshake}}) and establishes parameters for the connection +({{transport-parameters}}). + +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay ```suggestion security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay ``` > +({{transport-parameters}}). + +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application messages to be sent by a client +before receiving any messages from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. 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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

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Discussed with @MikeBishop, this is fine in the TLS draft, but the HTTP/3 draft needs to have a firmer opinion. Right now it says "anything with TLS 1.3".

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,14 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked

bytes_acked doesn't appear anywhere. I think it should be acked_packet.size?

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

Same issue as L1387 (bytes_acked)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

I think this may allow increasing cwnd close to (3 x max_datagram_size).

e.g. max_datagram_size = 1000
ack 1 = 999 bytes
ack 2 = 999 bytes
ack 3 = 999 bytes

If we have 3 acks each acks 999 bytes, this code result in 999x3 bytes cwnd increase.

To calculate remaining bytes correctly, I would propose the following:

  OnAckReceivedCC():
     cwnd_incr_max = 2 * max_datagram_size
...
  OnPacketAckedCC(acked_packet):
...
         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
         // {{?RFC3465}}
         cwnd_incr = cwnd_incr_max - max(cwnd_incr_max - acked_packet.size, 0)
         congestion_window += cwnd_incr
         cwnd_incr_max -= cnwd_incr

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----==_mimepart_5dcb45367fc68_60303f8e00ccd9682015d1-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 16:02:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE9F1200D8 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:02:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id piyOEO-_8FLq for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 697A4120044 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:02:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:02:12 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573603332; bh=/ZFvEyR4aa2cGBFeOXlrt5/UWTsHBl0/VAixwdk+fgI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kRxojqFlnrP3XX0vNwEO7s9v6i6z53osOb4dHGuAE7LXJ5BXHZsz+vF0/l9PlQSvr bTXi2P6wzbKBEtq2rA6XGX3SaVXNYhVK+Ktnoid0G0X3jvO7xZu/uaYJHxcfgEjP/V 2O7lh/5RttUroqcQDFGm+56QFs2gcIWVHki2CRDM= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] A day in the life (#3225) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcb480494021_612b3fe10f6cd95c20464b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 00:02:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcb480494021_612b3fe10f6cd95c20464b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LPardue commented on this pull request. > +For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for +a client and server to terminate a connection ({{termination}}). The PR talks about birth, marriage, divorce and death. Perhaps it is pertinent to have a paragraph the mentions the connection's role in the steady-state between some of these things. In fact, mentioning that it is mainly the application mapping's responsibility to define the specifics might help. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3225#pullrequestreview-315925805 ----==_mimepart_5dcb480494021_612b3fe10f6cd95c20464b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for
+a client and server to terminate a connection ({{termination}}).

The PR talks about birth, marriage, divorce and death.

Perhaps it is pertinent to have a paragraph the mentions the connection's role in the steady-state between some of these things. In fact, mentioning that it is mainly the application mapping's responsibility to define the specifics might help.

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----==_mimepart_5dcb480494021_612b3fe10f6cd95c20464b-- From nobody Tue Nov 12 16:26:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4896F1200B5 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:26:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hb9Vz0no7aSQ for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94582120044 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:26:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:26:27 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573604788; bh=//EmffgqkvQO9mthC30hfu6uLNnphUKLLGN3HxuTico=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Q6LiGXkli3U0XqVvg8NQvMeiNJiz+agzMAMGfeBcIPEa9EtgRhBpcK8wVpmRQNUzW UuNuKI4ERKiEbPB/crxz62oDObOuFWIkEQqFzBySO+t8iVnM2thNFKPtYGSG8ogA6V mZKhTWbY+PampiGoA8Nlse6QqBtTN3Rqj1pIdxUs= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Limit CWND increase in slow start (#3232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcb4db3cf232_53443ffbe16cd9601705aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 00:26:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcb4db3cf232_53443ffbe16cd9601705aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your PR, it's helpful to see this clarified. I think it's worth a discussion of two issues, maybe in Singapore: 1) Do we need anything in addition to the existing IW burst limit? A single ACK loss would not cause a burst to exceed the IW10 limit, and multiple consecutive ACK losses in slow start are VERY rare in my experience. 2) Do we need to describe the non-pacing scenarios in the pseudocode, given we recommend pacing? Using CWND to manipulate sending behavior is an indirect method that feels like a holdover from implementation details of older TCP algorithms to me. I'm no on both counts currently, but if the WG feels otherwise, I can accept that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#issuecomment-553180443 ----==_mimepart_5dcb4db3cf232_53443ffbe16cd9601705aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for your PR, it's helpful to see this clarified.

I think it's worth a discussion of two issues, maybe in Singapore:

  1. Do we need anything in addition to the existing IW burst limit? A single ACK loss would not cause a burst to exceed the IW10 limit, and multiple consecutive ACK losses in slow start are VERY rare in my experience.
  2. Do we need to describe the non-pacing scenarios in the pseudocode, given we recommend pacing? Using CWND to manipulate sending behavior is an indirect method that feels like a holdover from implementation details of older TCP algorithms to me.

I'm no on both counts currently, but if the WG feels otherwise, I can accept that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,14 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked

oops, that's correct. Fixing it

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

good point. How about the below:

 if (pacing):
         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
       else:
         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
         // {{?RFC3465}}
         if (cwnd_increase + acked_packet.size <=
             2 * max_datagram_size):
           cwnd_increase += acked_packet.size
           congestion_window += acked_packet.size

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Looks good. I like the idea of having normative text (MUST NOT) for 1-RTT packets, because that is a QUIC-specific requirement.

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@goelvidhi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

There is a problem with my suggested code that the cwnd could end up being less than 2*MSS.

This is my updated proposal:

if (pacing):
         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
       else:
         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
         // {{?RFC3465}}
         if (cwnd_increase  < 2 * max_datagram_size):
           cwnd_increase = min(cwnd_increase + acked_packet.size,
                                            2 * max_datagram_size)
           congestion_window = cwnd_increase

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kazuho approved this pull request.=0D =0D LGTM modulo the preference below.=0D =0D > -{{!RFC7301}} to select an application protocol. Unless another mechan= ism is=0D -used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN fo= r this=0D -purpose. When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection= (see=0D -Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not=0D= -negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x1= 78,=0D -see {{tls-errors}}). While {{!RFC7301}} only specifies that servers use= this=0D -alert, QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN= =0D -negotiation fails.=0D +{{!ALPN=3DRFC7301}} to select an application protocol. Unless another m= echanism=0D +is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN= for=0D +this purpose. When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a conne= ction=0D +(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is n= ot=0D +negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x1= 78, see=0D +{{tls-errors}}). While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this a= lert,=0D +QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negoti= ation=0D +fails.=0D =0D An application-layer protocol MAY restrict the QUIC versions that it can= operate=0D =0D s/application-layer protocol/application protocol/?=0D =0D The issue is in the current text, but it=E2=80=99s confusing to use diffe= rent term here.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3228#pullrequestreview-3166598= 15= ----==_mimepart_5dccaa0510581_43623fb0e9ccd95c6375e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@kazuho approved this pull request.

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LGTM modulo the preference below.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> -{{!RFC7301}} to select an application pro=
tocol.  Unless another mechanism is=0D
-used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN fo=
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-purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a connection=
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-Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is not=0D=

-negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x1=
78,=0D
-see {{tls-errors}}).  While {{!RFC7301}} only specifies that servers use=
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-alert, QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN=
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-negotiation fails.=0D
+{{!ALPN=3DRFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another m=
echanism=0D
+is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN=
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+this purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST immediately close a conne=
ction=0D
+(see Section 10.3 in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) if an application protocol is n=
ot=0D
+negotiated with a no_application_protocol TLS alert (QUIC error code 0x1=
78, see=0D
+{{tls-errors}}).  While {{!ALPN}} only specifies that servers use this a=
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+QUIC clients MUST also use it to terminate a connection when ALPN negoti=
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+fails.=0D
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s/application-layer protocol/application protocol/?

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The issue is in the current text, but it=E2=80=99s confusing to use di= fferent term here.

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@kazuho

There is no requirement for the client to check it's address (or the network).

@martinthomson

As @kazuho says, a client might choose to constrain token use to particular networks, but it doesn't have to.

Indeed, that's correct, no requirement to check address/network on first use. There is language about reuse that does require the check (but the reuse itself is not required / actually discouraged): "A client MUST NOT reuse a token if it believes that its point of network attachment has changed since the token was last used; that is, if there is a change in its local IP address or network interface."

I think I can live with the new language, since it gives clients enough flexibility in case they believe that the server that issued the token and the new server cooperate in managing the tokens (including a belief that they are the same server). So no objection to the current language in #3156 on my part.

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

There is a problem with my suggested code that the cwnd could end up being less than 2*MSS.

This is my updated proposal:

if (pacing):
         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
       else:
         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
         // {{?RFC3465}}
         if (cwnd_increase  < 2 * max_datagram_size):
           cwnd_increase = min(cwnd_increase + acked_packet.size,
                                            2 * max_datagram_size)
           congestion_window = cwnd_increase

I think it will reset congestion_window to a small value (<=2 mss).

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----==_mimepart_5dccea3c22637_47e53ff9ec2cd9608636f5-- From nobody Wed Nov 13 23:33:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6C0120865 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:33:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IPgRcNLQpZUO for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F6761200CC for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:33:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:33:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573716805; bh=vLEtuABsdfjOV/sqIJDnC/lB3q3y9IvNxNcWPe61eX8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eM7Db72L3AmnnP3wN/B7awEVww4aa6K55ybQpa3Cw/ifvZMg1GlMQJ6+7p2iGyxwh A8URRCY3bH26/oYBCbUwoaPrRFmOjHcWymOIPICPCTAJdUi/HheLUp/968MgajeH4D r92ivYOUzcMDR9HHabhDjH8fiywCctwKFkvC5KSY= From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Terminology QUIC-Transport-24 (#3233) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcd0345afc44_6983ff1144cd96c15872e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 07:33:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcd0345afc44_6983ff1144cd96c15872e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - The word "host" is undefined. If it is equal to "endpoint", it should be replaced. Otherwise, "host" should" be defined in Sec 1.2. - The word "address" sometime means "IP address" and "a pair of IP address and port" in other cases. Sec 1.2 should define "address" as "a pair of IP address and port". And "IP" should be added in front of "address" which means "IP address". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3233 ----==_mimepart_5dcd0345afc44_6983ff1144cd96c15872e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  • The word "host" is undefined. If it is equal to "endpoint", it should be replaced. Otherwise, "host" should" be defined in Sec 1.2.
  • The word "address" sometime means "IP address" and "a pair of IP address and port" in other cases. Sec 1.2 should define "address" as "a pair of IP address and port". And "IP" should be added in front of "address" which means "IP address".

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token.
 It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different
 connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to
-validate the client address without an additional round trip.
+A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the
+connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the
+certificate).  When connecting to a server for which the client retains an
+applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of
+its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to validate the
+client address without an additional round trip.  A client MUST NOT include a
+token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the
+client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server
+the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens.

I think it needs to be clarified that at a token SHOULD not include a token instead of MUST not. It is easy to imagine cases where the client has a strong belief, which is ultimately wrong. Having a MUST here is too strong a burden to place on the client which does not construct the token. Rather, a server MUST not accept a token that a client incorrect submits.

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

Rereading the changes, I have the following editorial suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,17 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can discard such a packet and allow the client to time out to
+detect handshake failure, but that could impose a significant latency penalty on
+the client.  A server MAY proceed with the connection without verifying the
+token, though the server MUST NOT consider the client address validated.  If a
+server chooses not to proceed with the handshake, it SHOULD immediately close
+({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an INVALID_TOKEN error.  Note that a
+server has not established any state for the connection at this point and so
+does not enter the closing period.

Would it make sense to change the last two sentences to something like: If a server chooses not to proceed with the handshake, it SHOULD immediately send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with an INVALID_TOKEN error without creating any state. As the server does not establish any state for the connection, it does not enter the closing period ({{immediate-close}}).

Current text is confusing as the normative text suggests following the rule in {{immediate-close}}, then argues as if it is a fact that a server would not be retaining any state, even though what we want to do here is to recommend the server to send CONNECTION_CLOSE in a stateless manner.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token.
 It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different
 connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to
-validate the client address without an additional round trip.
+A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the
+connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the
+certificate).  When connecting to a server for which the client retains an
+applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of
+its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to validate the
+client address without an additional round trip.  A client MUST NOT include a
+token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the
+client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server
+the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens.

Having a MUST here is too strong a burden to place on the client which does not construct the token. Rather, a server MUST not accept a token that a client incorrect submits.

I am not sure if I follow your logic. This is a privacy concern. What we want to prohibit is the client sending a token to a different server identity, not the server using the token.

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----==_mimepart_5dcd22363255_12ab3f88edacd9641689621-- From nobody Thu Nov 14 01:57:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC29212011D for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 01:57:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kRz0W7pBsqtQ for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 01:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4951B120043 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 01:57:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 01:57:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573725420; bh=ff1fkC9v3g3bMocu304JB/PK28DwMMfh7HAkFHDrH3w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uEPVW/8VQQ7Mnl7zzDSRFMLVLXZjcBAG73M8Rm3JO/G4LwYxabw+WOCPjklYLtD1A bYkCkmdI6e+G+Rvqj7qem2jAEEnn1d5Ug8exO+MP9/jTx7f/1leh8oDdyjcR0efUE7 qsqKN9J1BcpVIQeqc714TD3shmR1W1SWsjjhJ8Y0= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] clarify the scope of a NEW_TOKEN token (#3156) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcd24ec5cfd2_71ae3f848e4cd9641897c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:57:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcd24ec5cfd2_71ae3f848e4cd9641897c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mikkelfj commented on this pull request. > @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token. It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful. -If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection -to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the -Token field of its Initial packet. Including a token might allow the server to -validate the client address without an additional round trip. +A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the +connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the +certificate). When connecting to a server for which the client retains an +applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of +its Initial packet. Including a token might allow the server to validate the +client address without an additional round trip. A client MUST NOT include a +token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the +client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server +the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens. OK, then I have misunderstood this. Unless covered in neighbouring paragraphs I think this should be explained. However, if the token is required to appear random and unique, why would there a privacy concern? Due to length, or because appear random is not a realistic requirement? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3156#discussion_r346218630 ----==_mimepart_5dcd24ec5cfd2_71ae3f848e4cd9641897c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token.
 It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different
 connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to
-validate the client address without an additional round trip.
+A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the
+connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the
+certificate).  When connecting to a server for which the client retains an
+applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of
+its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to validate the
+client address without an additional round trip.  A client MUST NOT include a
+token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the
+client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server
+the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens.

OK, then I have misunderstood this. Unless covered in neighbouring paragraphs I think this should be explained.

However, if the token is required to appear random and unique, why would there a privacy concern? Due to length, or because appear random is not a realistic requirement?

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token.
 It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different
 connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to
-validate the client address without an additional round trip.
+A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the
+connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the
+certificate).  When connecting to a server for which the client retains an
+applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of
+its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to validate the
+client address without an additional round trip.  A client MUST NOT include a
+token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the
+client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server
+the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens.

The privacy concern is being discussed in the issue, starting from #3155 (comment).

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@mikkelfj commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1698,10 +1698,15 @@ encrypted form in the token.
 It is unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different
 connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful.
 
-If the client has a token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame on a previous connection
-to what it believes to be the same server, it SHOULD include that value in the
-Token field of its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to
-validate the client address without an additional round trip.
+A token received in a NEW_TOKEN frame is applicable to any server that the
+connection is considered authoritative for (e.g., server names included in the
+certificate).  When connecting to a server for which the client retains an
+applicable and unused token, it SHOULD include that token in the Token field of
+its Initial packet.  Including a token might allow the server to validate the
+client address without an additional round trip.  A client MUST NOT include a
+token that is not applicable to the server that it is connecting to, unless the
+client has the knowledge that the server that issued the token and the server
+the client is connecting to are jointly managing the tokens.

I see thanks, even I participated in that, too many things going on I guess.

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Chairs and editors, I think we agree that this is an amendment to #3042 that has been shipped as part of -24.

Does that mean that this would be merged as an editorial correction? Or if not, do we need an issue?

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I think we can merge it because it agrees with the stated principles. But its @martinthomson call

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

@junhochoi could you give an example where it would be less than 2MSS?

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

I mean this part:

congestion_window = cwnd_increase

If you run my example above (3 acks 999 bytes each), cwin will be 2 x mss at the end with algorithms above.

I think you mean +=, not =, but if so it makes another issue (cwin will increase much faster than expected)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

Last line is problematic because it will reset cwnd to cwnd_increase which is capped to 2 x mss.
congestion_window = cwnd_increase

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

Overselling! If the off-path attacker has a copy of the original Initial packet sent by the client, then it knows the ODCID. I don't see how appending a checksum will change that.

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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

By "off-path attacker" I meant an attacker who does not have a copy of any packets previously sent on-path. Can you suggest better wording?

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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

By "off-path attacker" I meant an attacker who does not have a copy of any packets previously sent on-path. Can you suggest better wording?

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@DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

By "off-path attacker" I meant an attacker who does not have a copy of any packets previously sent on-path. Can you suggest better wording?

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

If the off-path attacker has not seen the client's initial packet, it cannot set the DCID of the Retry to the SCID of the client's Initial, which means the Retry would be rejected by the client already.

The additional protection is only effective if the client uses predictable CID, e.g. zero length -- but that's a truly bad idea for a variety of reasons. Such clients would be exposed to other attacks, e.g. injecting random bytes in the crypto-stream.

So in practice, the retry attack is only effective if the attacker is "in the middle" or "on the side". And the checksum will not protect against that.

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@huitema commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

But I would shut up if you replaced "mitigates" by "diminishes".

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +The Retry Pseudo-Packet is not sent over the wire. It is computed by taking
+the transmitted Retry packet, removing the Retry Integrity Tag and prepending
+the two following fields:
+
+ODCID Len:
+
+: The ODCID Len contains the length in bytes of the Original Destination
+  Connection ID field that follows it, encoded as an 8-bit unsigned integer.
+
+Original Destination Connection ID:
+
+: The Original Destination Connection ID contains the value of the Destination
+  Connection ID from the Initial packet that this Retry is in response to. The
+  length of this field is given in ODCID Len. The presence of this field
+  mitigates an off-path attacker's ability to inject a Retry packet.
+

In my mind mitigate and diminish have very similar meanings in this context, so I've switched the to text to use the word diminish

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----==_mimepart_5dce51c52f27b_507f3f9f82ecd96410208a0-- From nobody Fri Nov 15 00:05:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95383120110 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:05:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RF77blWtS0x5 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from o6.sgmail.github.com (o6.sgmail.github.com [192.254.113.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 639F612010F for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:05:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=BxnN7nU3VT1yu895ex8ehEs+SeamxjgG4VCn8Ogy9HU=; b= Rr+WUcixchlN4ghFrl7tOWq+n2Wj48K0w0uu4Ffb50mWNxcYzj4cAzdr5m1fi23C TT60VYvagAS00vFGt0nawVpOvPoSrWZ613FCwTW6H9qBJatz51T4OCq5slmHJmVR XX0LPw5iYDgFGi/PqDVXp11S4Z0gaxjhbRtAGXaVi6s= Received: by filter0509p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0509p1iad2-29256-5DCE5C4F-E 2019-11-15 08:05:35.21190208 +0000 UTC m=+100409.494333499 Received: from github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [140.82.115.4]) by ismtpd0045p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id RUq9-RfoQeyI7oqK3eJMdw for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:05:35.154 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-1c220e1.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1637E160D48 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:05:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:05:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add retry integrity tag (#3120) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dce5c4f14d47_3ffd3f82b04cd96c7151ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3MPCiohXav45K0/f9EgM+1ROV7jaqeJCH8id 5H5X1kGJ42mw7wnkveGcospN7ijf2eqzFlni7IHenyHaC/JvVyweLOpRXcvgxu7hCqroqsHqi+pK0V WmHgVCVgTJck3sHvxBPSoSiA8/V37+XCoHkxZPrYkbfZCP13LmJnJG7bPbKklWgKt5iJVi+SB2Kkjz 4= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:05:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dce5c4f14d47_3ffd3f82b04cd96c7151ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit huitema approved this pull request. I may have sounded negative, but the protection against network errors alone justifies this PR. As long as we don't make foolhardy statements about mitigating attacks, I am fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3120#pullrequestreview-317457632 ----==_mimepart_5dce5c4f14d47_3ffd3f82b04cd96c7151ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema approved this pull request.

I may have sounded negative, but the protection against network errors alone justifies this PR. As long as we don't make foolhardy statements about mitigating attacks, I am fine.

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I'm not sure that this is the right scoping. Consider that NST is explicitly tied just to the server you connected to, not to any server found in the certificate. Why isn't this "same server name"?

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----==_mimepart_5dce662081eb6_3ebd3ffb98ccd96c10377cf-- From nobody Fri Nov 15 00:56:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B8612013F for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:56:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3eMGeHoKuBqo for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1BBE120119 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507981204F9 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:55:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573808155; bh=8aTm+gYtoega+wBnSVlXptoXvy/C+0602D289IhVKBk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YzIuSLRHBvksPRkC1qD6d67NafCjwZrJ+/bbuOas8Xh+IWo8MoN/30Q7nOZvsOnlA q0ZT5Z1cOK5mibPs4dOMyLKBF1/o98CfvWPpJeiPvl+fxFs4Dk1uSHa1dXwEkKHUn7 N8GkW9r1Uu7ZpNK1g/LERBxss8flWK6qL/L7MLJ4= Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 00:55:55 -0800 From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] clarify the scope of a NEW_TOKEN token (#3156) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dce681bc7f8_17663fb3ee8cd96c150721c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:56:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dce681bc7f8_17663fb3ee8cd96c150721c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm not sure that this is the right scoping. Consider that NST is explicitly tied just to the server you connected to, not to any server found in the certificate. Why isn't this "same server name"? Retry is a server controlled method that can be used for various things including client address validation, but also load balancing or redirects to a more local or somehow better service. Requiring these alternative locations to be tightly coupled to the original connection would work against this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3156#issuecomment-554271435 ----==_mimepart_5dce681bc7f8_17663fb3ee8cd96c150721c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure that this is the right scoping. Consider that NST is explicitly tied just to the server you connected to, not to any server found in the certificate. Why isn't this "same server name"?

Retry is a server controlled method that can be used for various things including client address validation, but also load balancing or redirects to a more local or somehow better service. Requiring these alternative locations to be tightly coupled to the original connection would work against this.

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I would suggest two revisions to this PR.

  1. Let's encrypt the Retry Token.
  2. Instead of having a zero key, let's use a per-version key (analagous to the per-version salt). This has the same anti-ossification benefits.

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@ekr Quoting from RFC 8446 section 4.6.1, the requirement for NST is:

   Clients MUST only resume if the new SNI value is valid for the server
   certificate presented in the original session and SHOULD only resume
   if the SNI value matches the one used in the original session.

MUST NOT of added in this PR achieves parity with the "MUST only" statement in TLS 1.3.

Regarding the SHOULD in TLS 1.3, I do not think we need feature parity. Compared to TLS 1.3 running over TCP, it is extremely difficult in QUIC to create a proxy that extracts the SNI and then let's different backend server handle the connection. It is natural to assume that a QUIC server that presents a wildcard certificate to be directly hosting all those server identities.

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----==_mimepart_5dce6debbf66a_28173fef6a2cd9605628da-- From nobody Fri Nov 15 02:08:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26B31201CE for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OjcI-OGtLnTa for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 714DB120164 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EBC520E45 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:08:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573812492; bh=zbzaMu6cuPz8AeH7lHcfoFcn2+FVN58ZnMxEgkGy/Oc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vmk96v12QIipckvNmtLE4nKQ1EawsM/wTVjPfJQ/fZeuPnIFWwnHcW5F3yiFUU+mg WS/3G/6RT6FQUEx6sfLra7o5xfWhtGuQXjGXhYf2WuXjiafGWMYHbPkgDnq7F8JNuh G/rS3Pt1U5fMXlmH+V4mEanXsADxtvkPMYQEETQ4= Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:08:12 -0800 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add retry integrity tag (#3120) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dce790c4a39a_5ec73fee054cd96014829b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:08:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dce790c4a39a_5ec73fee054cd96014829b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr 1. encrypting the token has been discussed in this PR and does not have consensus 2. the zero key can be per-version (by which I mean that QUICv1 uses a zero key, and QUICv2 can decide to use a different key) The discussion on this PR and related issue #3014 indicates that there is interest in the Retry Integrity Tag. On top of that, the PR as-is is currently covered by the chairs' latest consensus call. Therefore I'd suggest you please file a separate issue to discuss encrypting the token, and we can discuss that once this PR has landed. You can also file a second issue to discuss zero key vs non-zero. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3120#issuecomment-554298004 ----==_mimepart_5dce790c4a39a_5ec73fee054cd96014829b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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  1. encrypting the token has been discussed in this PR and does not have consensus
  2. the zero key can be per-version (by which I mean that QUICv1 uses a zero key, and QUICv2 can decide to use a different key)

The discussion on this PR and related issue #3014 indicates that there is interest in the Retry Integrity Tag. On top of that, the PR as-is is currently covered by the chairs' latest consensus call. Therefore I'd suggest you please file a separate issue to discuss encrypting the token, and we can discuss that once this PR has landed. You can also file a second issue to discuss zero key vs non-zero.

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@DavidSchinazi

the zero key can be per-version (by which I mean that QUICv1 uses a zero key, and QUICv2 can decide to use a different key)

I think we should change the Retry key for every draft version (or every time we change the Initial salt), as that would prevent ossification assuming that we would be running certain number of draft versions concurrently.

I also prefer having a non-zero salt for the upcoming draft version, as it would be an indication to the implementors that the key is a "constant", rather than zeros that endpoints might synthetically generate (e.g., by using bzero).

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The discussion on this PR and related issue #3014 indicates that there is interest in the Retry Integrity Tag. On top of that, the PR as-is is currently covered by the chairs' latest consensus call.

Yes, and I'm responding to that saying we ought to encrypt.

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Update based on my review of the editor's copy.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3234

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  • HTTP: server may interleave DUPLICATE_PUSH frames as well

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +For connections that are no longer needed or desired, there are several ways for
+a client and server to terminate a connection ({{termination}}).

Do you have a suggestion? I hit that briefly in the first paragraph with the "this is for sending stuff by application protocols", but I realize that might not be satisfactory.

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the pseudocode refers to IsAppLImited(). This function is not defined anywhere, and as Section 6.9 makes clear, it's not just app limited, but also if it's flow-control limited. It would be good to rename this function.

I've already had an engineer screw this up by following just the psuedocode.

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@gorryfair commented on this pull request.

Comments from Hackathon - basically heading in correct direction.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection.
+
+
+##### On-Path Active Attacks
+
+An attacker that can cause a packet it observes to no longer reach its intended
+destination is considered an on-path attacker.  Such an attacker generally is
+present between the QUIC client and server, and a QUIC endpoint is required to
+send packets through this attacker to establish connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify IP and UDP packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets

Delay (includes reordering)

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the original path between endpoints, and therefore the original packets sent by
+an endpoint are still reaching their destination.  This means that a future
+failure to route copied packets to the destination faster than their original
+path will not prevent the original packets from reaching the destination.
+
+A limited on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Inject new packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration
+- Drop packets
+- Modify encrypted packet payloads

he can - but they don't work

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the original path between endpoints, and therefore the original packets sent by
+an endpoint are still reaching their destination.  This means that a future
+failure to route copied packets to the destination faster than their original
+path will not prevent the original packets from reaching the destination.
+
+A limited on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Inject new packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration
+- Drop packets
+- Modify encrypted packet payloads

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection.
+
+
+##### On-Path Active Attacks
+
+An attacker that can cause a packet it observes to no longer reach its intended
+destination is considered an on-path attacker.  Such an attacker generally is
+present between the QUIC client and server, and a QUIC endpoint is required to
+send packets through this attacker to establish connectivity on a given path.
+
+An on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Modify IP and UDP packet headers
+- Inject new packets
+- Delay packets

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WIP > + +TBD. + +### Short Headers {#short-headers-properties} + +TBD. + +### Connection Migration {#migration-properties} + +Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to +transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a +time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames. Path validation +({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able +to receive packets sent on a particular path. This helps reduce the effects of +address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address, +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address. This can probably go, I think. ```suggestion ``` > +transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a +time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames. Path validation +({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able +to receive packets sent on a particular path. This helps reduce the effects of +address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address, +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address. + +This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration +when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}. + +For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive +attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active +attackers having the capability to write packets into the network. + +Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path +attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the ```suggestion attackers; see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}). An on-path attacker is on the ``` > +time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames. Path validation +({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able +to receive packets sent on a particular path. This helps reduce the effects of +address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address, +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address. + +This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration +when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}. + +For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive +attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active +attackers having the capability to write packets into the network. + +Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path +attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the +critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any packet This definition of on-path uses "on the critical path". I think that you can reduce to "can read, modify, or remove any packet [...]" > +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address. + +This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration +when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}. + +For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive +attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active +attackers having the capability to write packets into the network. + +Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path +attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the +critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any packet +it observes such that it no longer reaches its destination, while an off-path +attacker observes the packets, but cannot prevent the original packet from +reaching its intended destination. An off-path attacker can transmit arbitrary +packets, and it may be able to attack the network so as to place itself on-path. This last clause is probably worth making its own sentence. That is, > Properties of connection migration allow an off-path attacker to place itself on path by sending packets under certain narrow conditions. > +Both on-path and off-path attackers can mount a passive attack in which they +save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet protection +at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any network. Is this something that ekr should deal with? > +save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet protection +at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any network. + + +#### Active Attacks + +An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network. An +attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent +the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination. If +so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker. + +An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP +addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only +effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the +contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are +both authenticated and encrypted. Not sure what this last bit is intended to say. Rewriting addresses is not covered by packet protection, but this might be read to imply otherwise. > + +An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network. An +attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent +the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination. If +so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker. + +An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP +addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only +effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the +contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are +both authenticated and encrypted. + +A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid +packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet +protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which +possess the key material established during the handshake. Similarly, any This will need a backref to the handshakey bits. > +#### Active Attacks + +An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network. An +attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent +the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination. If +so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker. + +An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP +addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only +effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the +contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are +both authenticated and encrypted. + +A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid +packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet +protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which The missing observation here is that endpoints won't accept invalid packets. > + +However, an attacker can modify the boundaries between QUIC packets and UDP +datagrams, causing multiple packets to be coalesced into a single datagram, or +splitting coalesced packets into multiple datagrams. Such modification has no +functional effect on a QUIC connection, however it might change the performance +characteristics exhibited by the receiving endpoint. + +A spoofing attack, in which an attacker rewrites unprotected parts of a QUIC +packet such as the source or destination address, is only effective if the +attacker can forward packets to the original endpoint, as path validation +({{migrate-validate}}) ensures that an endpoint's ability and willingness to +decrypt QUIC packets is demonstrated before sending significant amounts of data +to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection. + + +##### On-Path Active Attacks I don't accept patches with five ######### in a row. Can we bump the real stuff up a level? > +the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination. If +so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker. + +An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP +addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only +effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the +contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are +both authenticated and encrypted. + +A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid +packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet +protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which +possess the key material established during the handshake. Similarly, any +active attacker that observes QUIC packets and attempts to insert new data or +modify existing data in those packets should not be able to generate packets +deemed valid by the receiving endpoint. This belongs in earlier sections. This is packet protection. > +- Reorder packets +- Drop packets +- Split and merge datagrams along packet boundaries + +An on-path attacker cannot: + +- Modify an authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the + recipient to accept that packet + +An on-path attacker has the opportunity to modify the packets that it observes, +however any modifications to an authenticated portion of a packet will cause it +to be dropped by the receiving endpoint as invalid, as QUIC payloads are both +authenticated and encrypted. + +In the presence of an on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the following +properties. ```suggestion properties: ``` > +A limited on-path attacker differs from an on-path attacker in that it is not on +the original path between endpoints, and therefore the original packets sent by +an endpoint are still reaching their destination. This means that a future +failure to route copied packets to the destination faster than their original +path will not prevent the original packets from reaching the destination. + +A limited on-path attacker can: + +- Inspect packets +- Inject new packets +- Modify unencrypted packet headers +- Reorder packets + +A limited on-path attacker cannot: + +- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration ```suggestion - Delay packets so that they arrive later than packets sent on the original path ``` > +### Short Headers {#short-headers-properties} + +TBD. + +### Connection Migration {#migration-properties} + +Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to +transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a +time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames. Path validation +({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able +to receive packets sent on a particular path. This helps reduce the effects of +address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address, +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address. + +This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration +when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}. You definitely need to constrain this section to just DoS consequences of migration. Because this doesn't cover what an attacker might learn about communications. > + +- Inspect packets +- Inject new packets +- Modify unencrypted packet headers +- Reorder packets + +A limited on-path attacker cannot: + +- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration +- Drop packets +- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the + recipient to accept that packet + +A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that the +original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it cannot +offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing. If a limited ```suggestion offer routing with worse latency than the original path. If a limited ``` > + +A limited on-path attacker cannot: + +- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration +- Drop packets +- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the + recipient to accept that packet + +A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that the +original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it cannot +offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing. If a limited +on-path attacker drops packets, the original copy will still arrive at the +destination endpoint. + +In the presence of a limited on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the +following properties. ```suggestion following properties: ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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+time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validatio=
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+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able=0D=

+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the eff=
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+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed ad=
dress,=0D
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.=
=0D
+=0D
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection mi=
gration=0D
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RF=
C3552}}.=0D
+=0D
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, p=
assive=0D
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and act=
ive=0D
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.=0D
+=0D
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or of=
f-path=0D
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on t=
he=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); =
an on-path attacker is on the=0D
+attackers; see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}).  An on-path attacker is on =
the=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +time for transmission and receipt of non-=
probing frames.  Path validation=0D
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able=0D=

+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the eff=
ects of=0D
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed ad=
dress,=0D
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.=
=0D
+=0D
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection mi=
gration=0D
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RF=
C3552}}.=0D
+=0D
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, p=
assive=0D
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and act=
ive=0D
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.=0D
+=0D
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or of=
f-path=0D
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on t=
he=0D
+critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any=
 packet=0D
=0D

This definition of on-path uses "on the critical path". I think that = you can reduce to "can read, modify, or remove any packet [...]"

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +unless an attacker is able to also receiv=
e packets sent to that address.=0D
+=0D
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection mi=
gration=0D
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RF=
C3552}}.=0D
+=0D
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, p=
assive=0D
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and act=
ive=0D
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.=0D
+=0D
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or of=
f-path=0D
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on t=
he=0D
+critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any=
 packet=0D
+it observes such that it no longer reaches its destination, while an off=
-path=0D
+attacker observes the packets, but cannot prevent the original packet fr=
om=0D
+reaching its intended destination. An off-path attacker can transmit arb=
itrary=0D
+packets, and it may be able to attack the network so as to place itself =
on-path.=0D
=0D

This last clause is probably worth making its own sentence. That is,<= /p>=0D

=0D

Properties of connection migration allow an off-path attacker to place= itself on path by sending packets under certain narrow conditions.

=0D=
=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +Both on-path and off-path attackers can m=
ount a passive attack in which they=0D
+save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet pro=
tection=0D
+at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any net=
work.=0D
=0D

Is this something that ekr should deal with?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +save observed QUIC packets for an offline=
 attack against QUIC packet protection=0D
+at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any net=
work.=0D
+=0D
+=0D
+#### Active Attacks=0D
+=0D
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  A=
n=0D
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally p=
revent=0D
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destinatio=
n.  If=0D
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.=0D
+=0D
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination =
IP=0D
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks =
are only=0D
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward th=
e=0D
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections=
 are=0D
+both authenticated and encrypted.=0D
=0D

Not sure what this last bit is intended to say. Rewriting addresses i= s not covered by packet protection, but this might be read to imply other= wise.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  A=
n=0D
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally p=
revent=0D
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destinatio=
n.  If=0D
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.=0D
+=0D
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination =
IP=0D
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks =
are only=0D
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward th=
e=0D
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections=
 are=0D
+both authenticated and encrypted.=0D
+=0D
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe =
valid=0D
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC =
packet=0D
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints wh=
ich=0D
+possess the key material established during the handshake.  Similarly, a=
ny=0D
=0D

This will need a backref to the handshakey bits.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +#### Active Attacks=0D
+=0D
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  A=
n=0D
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally p=
revent=0D
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destinatio=
n.  If=0D
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.=0D
+=0D
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination =
IP=0D
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks =
are only=0D
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward th=
e=0D
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections=
 are=0D
+both authenticated and encrypted.=0D
+=0D
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe =
valid=0D
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC =
packet=0D
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints wh=
ich=0D
=0D

The missing observation here is that endpoints won't accept invalid pa= ckets.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+However, an attacker can modify the boundaries between QUIC packets and =
UDP=0D
+datagrams, causing multiple packets to be coalesced into a single datagr=
am, or=0D
+splitting coalesced packets into multiple datagrams.  Such modification =
has no=0D
+functional effect on a QUIC connection, however it might change the perf=
ormance=0D
+characteristics exhibited by the receiving endpoint.=0D
+=0D
+A spoofing attack, in which an attacker rewrites unprotected parts of a =
QUIC=0D
+packet such as the source or destination address, is only effective if t=
he=0D
+attacker can forward packets to the original endpoint, as path validatio=
n=0D
+({{migrate-validate}}) ensures that an endpoint's ability and willin=
gness to=0D
+decrypt QUIC packets is demonstrated before sending significant amounts =
of data=0D
+to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection.=0D
+=0D
+=0D
+##### On-Path Active Attacks=0D
=0D

I don't accept patches with five ######### in a row. Can we bump the = real stuff up a level?

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +the original packets it observes from rea=
ching their intended destination.  If=0D
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.=0D
+=0D
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination =
IP=0D
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks =
are only=0D
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward th=
e=0D
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections=
 are=0D
+both authenticated and encrypted.=0D
+=0D
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe =
valid=0D
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC =
packet=0D
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints wh=
ich=0D
+possess the key material established during the handshake.  Similarly, a=
ny=0D
+active attacker that observes QUIC packets and attempts to insert new da=
ta or=0D
+modify existing data in those packets should not be able to generate pac=
kets=0D
+deemed valid by the receiving endpoint.=0D
=0D

This belongs in earlier sections. This is packet protection.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +- Reorder packets=0D
+- Drop packets=0D
+- Split and merge datagrams along packet boundaries=0D
+=0D
+An on-path attacker cannot:=0D
+=0D
+- Modify an authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause th=
e=0D
+ recipient to accept that packet=0D
+=0D
+An on-path attacker has the opportunity to modify the packets that it ob=
serves,=0D
+however any modifications to an authenticated portion of a packet will c=
ause it=0D
+to be dropped by the receiving endpoint as invalid, as QUIC payloads are=
 both=0D
+authenticated and encrypted.=0D
+=0D
+In the presence of an on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the followi=
ng=0D
+properties.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-properties.=0D
+properties:=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +A limited on-path attacker differs from a=
n on-path attacker in that it is not on=0D
+the original path between endpoints, and therefore the original packets =
sent by=0D
+an endpoint are still reaching their destination.  This means that a fut=
ure=0D
+failure to route copied packets to the destination faster than their ori=
ginal=0D
+path will not prevent the original packets from reaching the destination=
.=0D
+=0D
+A limited on-path attacker can:=0D
+=0D
+- Inspect packets=0D
+- Inject new packets=0D
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers=0D
+- Reorder packets=0D
+=0D
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:=0D
+=0D
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-- Delay packets beyond the original packet du=
ration=0D
+- Delay packets so that they arrive later than packets sent on the origi=
nal path=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +### Short Headers {#short-headers-propert=
ies}=0D
+=0D
+TBD.=0D
+=0D
+### Connection Migration {#migration-properties}=0D
+=0D
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability=
 to=0D
+transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one p=
ath at a=0D
+time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validatio=
n=0D
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able=0D=

+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the eff=
ects of=0D
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed ad=
dress,=0D
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.=
=0D
+=0D
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection mi=
gration=0D
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RF=
C3552}}.=0D
=0D

You definitely need to constrain this section to just DoS consequences= of migration. Because this doesn't cover what an attacker might learn a= bout communications.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+- Inspect packets=0D
+- Inject new packets=0D
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers=0D
+- Reorder packets=0D
+=0D
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:=0D
+=0D
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration=0D
+- Drop packets=0D
+- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause t=
he=0D
+ recipient to accept that packet=0D
+=0D
+A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that t=
he=0D
+original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it ca=
nnot=0D
+offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing.  If a=
 limited=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-offer worse routing than the original path, o=
nly improved routing.  If a limited=0D
+offer routing with worse latency than the original path.  If a limited=0D=
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +=0D
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:=0D
+=0D
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration=0D
+- Drop packets=0D
+- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause t=
he=0D
+ recipient to accept that packet=0D
+=0D
+A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that t=
he=0D
+original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it ca=
nnot=0D
+offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing.  If a=
 limited=0D
+on-path attacker drops packets, the original copy will still arrive at t=
he=0D
+destination endpoint.=0D
+=0D
+In the presence of a limited on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the=0D=

+following properties.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-following properties.=0D
+following properties:=0D
=0D =0D =0D

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3237 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix Gorry's editorial comments -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (42) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3237.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3237.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3237 ----==_mimepart_5dcfd5f3d664_4daa3f8b32ecd96416370a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This attempts to fix Gorry's editorial comments from the QUIC mailing list.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3237

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  • Fix Gorry's editorial comments

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet protection
+at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any network.
+
+
+#### Active Attacks
+
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  An
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination.  If
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.
+
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are
+both authenticated and encrypted.

Ah, good call. This is intended to say that even if you mess with the routing of the packets by changing the addresses, the packet payloads ("contents of the packets" in the wording above) are only useful to the actual endpoints that completed the handshake.
This is likely already covered by other text, so we can probably just remove it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+However, an attacker can modify the boundaries between QUIC packets and UDP
+datagrams, causing multiple packets to be coalesced into a single datagram, or
+splitting coalesced packets into multiple datagrams.  Such modification has no
+functional effect on a QUIC connection, however it might change the performance
+characteristics exhibited by the receiving endpoint.
+
+A spoofing attack, in which an attacker rewrites unprotected parts of a QUIC
+packet such as the source or destination address, is only effective if the
+attacker can forward packets to the original endpoint, as path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) ensures that an endpoint's ability and willingness to
+decrypt QUIC packets is demonstrated before sending significant amounts of data
+to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection.
+
+
+##### On-Path Active Attacks

Looking at this in more detail, it looks like we can move much of the definition to the beginning of the whole section, which leaves this part to be much smaller and less nested. :)

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----==_mimepart_5dcff040baa4c_4dea3fdb954cd9602186d0-- From nobody Sat Nov 16 04:49:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822D21200B4 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 04:49:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKk2-7kH0631 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 04:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7114212006D for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 04:49:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 04:49:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573908579; bh=o4UM9QwRDI3ErdmSBQi9hkxAO4DpGPl5wxDPnik80BU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A+8pmLj8ceiHJg9tgF6ZNWC6IhqbxlQ3bT0Z3g2qOEUarm0TLvR+Mc07RT+APDclK 4/I5Q+2WAWurRZfHG07WRBrZux3jZY9TdnI4f6QMaPmqhPC2y6ahhuvcy+PJepwyB6 VJLWJEdGz6H8Jwv73GDiwYpJxniIwFfLSJcIsN5I= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add initial threat model to security considerations (#2925) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dcff063b65aa_360b3fe0ecacd96c1407e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:49:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dcff063b65aa_360b3fe0ecacd96c1407e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erickinnear commented on this pull request. > + +A limited on-path attacker cannot: + +- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration +- Drop packets +- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the + recipient to accept that packet + +A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that the +original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it cannot +offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing. If a limited +on-path attacker drops packets, the original copy will still arrive at the +destination endpoint. + +In the presence of a limited on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the +following properties. Fixed everywhere in 70dac1d -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2925#discussion_r347090261 ----==_mimepart_5dcff063b65aa_360b3fe0ecacd96c1407e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration
+- Drop packets
+- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the
+ recipient to accept that packet
+
+A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that the
+original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it cannot
+offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing.  If a limited
+on-path attacker drops packets, the original copy will still arrive at the
+destination endpoint.
+
+In the presence of a limited on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the
+following properties.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+- Inspect packets
+- Inject new packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Reorder packets
+
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration
+- Drop packets
+- Modify the authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the
+ recipient to accept that packet
+
+A limited on-path attacker can only delay packets up to the point that the
+original packets arrive before the duplicate packets, meaning that it cannot
+offer worse routing than the original path, only improved routing.  If a limited

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +A limited on-path attacker differs from an on-path attacker in that it is not on
+the original path between endpoints, and therefore the original packets sent by
+an endpoint are still reaching their destination.  This means that a future
+failure to route copied packets to the destination faster than their original
+path will not prevent the original packets from reaching the destination.
+
+A limited on-path attacker can:
+
+- Inspect packets
+- Inject new packets
+- Modify unencrypted packet headers
+- Reorder packets
+
+A limited on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Delay packets beyond the original packet duration

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- Reorder packets
+- Drop packets
+- Split and merge datagrams along packet boundaries
+
+An on-path attacker cannot:
+
+- Modify an authenticated and encrypted portion of a packet and cause the
+ recipient to accept that packet
+
+An on-path attacker has the opportunity to modify the packets that it observes,
+however any modifications to an authenticated portion of a packet will cause it
+to be dropped by the receiving endpoint as invalid, as QUIC payloads are both
+authenticated and encrypted.
+
+In the presence of an on-path attacker, QUIC aims to provide the following
+properties.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +#### Active Attacks
+
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  An
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination.  If
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.
+
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are
+both authenticated and encrypted.
+
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which

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An off-path attacker can transmit arbitrary +packets, and it may be able to attack the network so as to place itself on-path. Done in 70dac1d -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2925#discussion_r347090318 ----==_mimepart_5dcff09eebd49_11f03fbc8d2cd95c2301fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.
+
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}.
+
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.
+
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the
+critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any packet
+it observes such that it no longer reaches its destination, while an off-path
+attacker observes the packets, but cannot prevent the original packet from
+reaching its intended destination. An off-path attacker can transmit arbitrary
+packets, and it may be able to attack the network so as to place itself on-path.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able
+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the effects of
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address,
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.
+
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}.
+
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.
+
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the
+critical path for a given connection and can read, modify, or remove any packet

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a
+time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able
+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the effects of
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address,
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.
+
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}.
+
+For this purpose, attacks are divided into passive and active attacks, passive
+attackers having the capability to read packets from the network and active
+attackers having the capability to write packets into the network.
+
+Attackers are additionally categorized as either on-path attackers or off-path
+attackers (see Section 3.5 of {{?RFC3552}}); an on-path attacker is on the

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+TBD.
+
+### Short Headers {#short-headers-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+### Connection Migration {#migration-properties}
+
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to
+transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a
+time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able
+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the effects of
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address,
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.

Done in 70dac1d

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Both on-path and off-path attackers can mount a passive attack in which they
+save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet protection
+at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any network.

Moved this into short header section (and renamed that to packet protection, since technically that's not unique to SH even if this is not handshake-specific). Generally moved a bunch of text up, as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +save observed QUIC packets for an offline attack against QUIC packet protection
+at a future time; this is true for any observer of any packet on any network.
+
+
+#### Active Attacks
+
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  An
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination.  If
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.
+
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are
+both authenticated and encrypted.

Reworded and moved this around to hopefully be more clear

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +### Short Headers {#short-headers-properties}
+
+TBD.
+
+### Connection Migration {#migration-properties}
+
+Connection Migration ({{migration}}) provides endpoints with the ability to
+transition between IP addresses and ports on multiple paths, using one path at a
+time for transmission and receipt of non-probing frames.  Path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) establishes that a peer is both willing and able
+to receive packets sent on a particular path.  This helps reduce the effects of
+address spoofing, by limiting the number of packets sent to a spoofed address,
+unless an attacker is able to also receive packets sent to that address.
+
+This section describes the intended security properties of connection migration
+when under various types of attack, as described in more detail by {{?RFC3552}}.

Added text to be more clear about that

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination.  If
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.
+
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are
+both authenticated and encrypted.
+
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which
+possess the key material established during the handshake.  Similarly, any
+active attacker that observes QUIC packets and attempts to insert new data or
+modify existing data in those packets should not be able to generate packets
+deemed valid by the receiving endpoint.

Moved a bunch of this up into packet protection section

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+However, an attacker can modify the boundaries between QUIC packets and UDP
+datagrams, causing multiple packets to be coalesced into a single datagram, or
+splitting coalesced packets into multiple datagrams.  Such modification has no
+functional effect on a QUIC connection, however it might change the performance
+characteristics exhibited by the receiving endpoint.
+
+A spoofing attack, in which an attacker rewrites unprotected parts of a QUIC
+packet such as the source or destination address, is only effective if the
+attacker can forward packets to the original endpoint, as path validation
+({{migrate-validate}}) ensures that an endpoint's ability and willingness to
+decrypt QUIC packets is demonstrated before sending significant amounts of data
+to a new endpoint as part of an established QUIC connection.
+
+
+##### On-Path Active Attacks

Moved, trimmed out the duplication, now at the top of the entire section and provides the definitions for the whole thing. Then the sections below move up one and are how those definitions, etc. apply to migration. Much better now -- thanks!

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+An active attack ({{?RFC3552}}) involves writing data to the network.  An
+attacker with such a capability might be in a position to additionally prevent
+the original packets it observes from reaching their intended destination.  If
+so, they are considered to be an on-path attacker.
+
+An active attacker may also choose to rewrite the source or destination IP
+addresses of packets that it forwards or injects. Such spoofing attacks are only
+effective against a QUIC connection if the attacker can still forward the
+contents of the packets to the original endpoint, since QUIC connections are
+both authenticated and encrypted.
+
+A blind attacker, one who injects packets without being able to observe valid
+packets for a QUIC connection, is unlikely to be successful, since QUIC packet
+protection ensures that valid packets are only generated by endpoints which
+possess the key material established during the handshake.  Similarly, any

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Fixes #3236

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Maybe this is what's meant? (If not, please explain it better.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3239 -- Commit Summary -- * HTTP: Tweak wording about unknown error codes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (2) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3239.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3239.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3239 ----==_mimepart_5dd069c82deb6_3d093f8f4b6cd96882599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's not very clear what it means to not treat an error code as an error.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1363,9 +1363,9 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
      if (InCongestionRecovery(acked_packet.time_sent)):
        // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
        return
-     if (IsAppLimited()):
+     if (IsAppOrFowControlLimited()):

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This section ...to ensure it receives acknowledgements. > @@ -532,7 +527,7 @@ keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. -Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, but they are +Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, so they are s/may/might -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3234#pullrequestreview-317995637 ----==_mimepart_5dd09ab43d50e_367a3f8b32ecd964109763a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinduke approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -359,8 +354,9 @@ rttvar = 3/4 * rttvar + 1/4 * rttvar_sample
 
 # Loss Detection {#loss-detection}
 
-QUIC senders use both ack information and timeouts to detect lost packets, and
-this section provides a description of these algorithms.
+QUIC senders use acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and a probe
+time out {{pto}} to ensure acknowledgements are received. This section

...to ensure it receives acknowledgements.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -532,7 +527,7 @@ keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
 otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
 bytes.
 
-Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, but they are
+Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, so they are

s/may/might

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I support this PR, modulo minor changes. > @@ -385,13 +385,9 @@ perspective of the endpoint in question. ### Handshake Confirmed {#handshake-confirmed} -In this document, the TLS handshake is considered confirmed at an endpoint when -the following two conditions are met: the handshake is complete, and the -endpoint has received an acknowledgment for a packet sent with 1-RTT keys. -This second condition can be implemented by recording the lowest packet number -sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field -in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the -former, the handshake is confirmed. +In this document, the TLS handshake is considered confirmed at the server when +the handshake completes. At the client, the handshake is considered confirmed +when the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame is received. nit: could we say "when *a* HANDSHAKE_DONE frame is received." > @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame} + +The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of +the handshake to the client. The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional +fields. + +This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a +HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. + + Can we add the following paragraph to this section: ``` Clients MAY treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it sent with 1-RTT keys as receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame. This can be implemented by recording the lowest packet number sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the former, the handshake can be confirmed. ``` > @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame} + +The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of +the handshake to the client. The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional +fields. + +This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a Can we add the following sentence of the start of this paragraph: ``` Servers MUST NOT send a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame before confirming the handshake. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@DavidSchinazi requested changes on this pull request.

I support this PR, modulo minor changes.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -385,13 +385,9 @@ perspective of the endpoint in question.
 
 ### Handshake Confirmed {#handshake-confirmed}
 
-In this document, the TLS handshake is considered confirmed at an endpoint when
-the following two conditions are met: the handshake is complete, and the
-endpoint has received an acknowledgment for a packet sent with 1-RTT keys.
-This second condition can be implemented by recording the lowest packet number
-sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest value of the Largest Acknowledged field
-in any received 1-RTT ACK frame: once the latter is higher than or equal to the
-former, the handshake is confirmed.
+In this document, the TLS handshake is considered confirmed at the server when
+the handshake completes. At the client, the handshake is considered confirmed
+when the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame is received.

nit: could we say "when a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame is received."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a
+HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
+
+

Can we add the following paragraph to this section:

Clients MAY treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it sent with 1-RTT
keys as receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame.  This can be implemented by
recording the lowest packet number sent with 1-RTT keys, and the highest
value of the Largest Acknowledged field in any received 1-RTT ACK frame:
once the latter is higher than or equal to the former, the handshake can be
confirmed.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a

Can we add the following sentence of the start of this paragraph:

Servers MUST NOT send a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame before confirming
the handshake.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a

Before completing the handshake.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a
+HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
+
+

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The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional +fields. + +This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a +HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. + + I intentionally made it "can be" because this is a MAY -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3145#discussion_r347116466 ----==_mimepart_5dd0bf654aba5_d313fc898ccd96814306bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,16 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. A server MUST treat receipt of a
+HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
+
+

I intentionally made it "can be" because this is a MAY

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -655,11 +655,11 @@ to support different algorithms. ## Explicit Congestion Notification {#congestion-ecn} -If a path has been verified to support ECN, QUIC treats a Congestion Experienced -codepoint in the IP header as a signal of congestion. This document specifies an -endpoint's response when its peer receives packets with the Congestion -Experienced codepoint. As discussed in {{!RFC8311}}, endpoints are permitted to -experiment with other response functions. +If a path has been verified to support ECN as specified in {{?RFC3168}} and +updated in {{?RFC8311}}, QUIC treats a Congestion Experienced(CE) codepoint in Suggestion: "If a path has been verified to support ECN {{?RFC3168}} {{?RFC8311}}" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3241#pullrequestreview-317999220 ----==_mimepart_5dd0c05d930ef_349f3f8a258cd964834064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -655,11 +655,11 @@ to support different algorithms.
 
 ## Explicit Congestion Notification {#congestion-ecn}
 
-If a path has been verified to support ECN, QUIC treats a Congestion Experienced
-codepoint in the IP header as a signal of congestion. This document specifies an
-endpoint's response when its peer receives packets with the Congestion
-Experienced codepoint.  As discussed in {{!RFC8311}}, endpoints are permitted to
-experiment with other response functions.
+If a path has been verified to support ECN as specified in {{?RFC3168}} and
+updated in {{?RFC8311}}, QUIC treats a Congestion Experienced(CE) codepoint in

Suggestion: "If a path has been verified to support ECN {{?RFC3168}} {{?RFC8311}}"

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide

@kazuho I updated the PR such that the active_connection_id_limit now included the handshake and SPA CID, which should make it a fix for #3200 now. PTAL.

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Gorry notes correctly that fragmentation can play poorly with using IW10. If a sender uses a large max_datagram_size, and if the network fragments, then IW10 can result in substantially larger amplification than 10x.

A simple fix here is to say that if the endpoint uses max_datagram_size larger than 1280 bytes (this is what the transport spec limits it to in the absence of DPLPMTUD), then the endpoint MUST set DF on outgoing packets.

This is a problem with RFC 6928 as well, but we should be clear about it for QUIC.

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I would like to suggest that RFC8085 is normative.

This RFC was written as BCP for UDP usage, and QUIC implementations need to comply with that or describe the difference and reach consensus about why it differs.

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----==_mimepart_5dd0cb8732781_51903f8f4b6cd96883169-- From nobody Sat Nov 16 20:39:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2179120077 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:39:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DDJkyP0S4bLy for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 201A9120043 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:39:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:39:51 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573965591; bh=wub4XRNdi6YAlTkGoe6Bs/2OpRzYBzfrrXsTBuOKwGc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yUoji8ppdmjvzhmEE5H3m+V87vXao8nE+bRiFCZ39JS+/FK4w4QtVQHUyAMsTvkaV nb4PAU1upcrdJhI2sD5JQdYG1Jl16BTVv7WrJDY+eVn0ySNWAOujMb3nMZOXvw6Nur eQQWwmPrR6qEmvUedGS4Ealbibg2FB9H8n4khl1Q= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make RFC 6928 normative (#3245) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd0cf17430c2_65483fe6764cd9601695585"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:39:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd0cf17430c2_65483fe6764cd9601695585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gorry notes that we don't have a normative reference to 6928, but we could. The discussion there is largely independent of TCP, so I agree that we could do a normative reference to it. This might be a design issue. It creates an exception to not having normative references to TCP documents. I think it's ok and may even be useful in this case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3245 ----==_mimepart_5dd0cf17430c2_65483fe6764cd9601695585 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Gorry notes that we don't have a normative reference to 6928, but we could. The discussion there is largely independent of TCP, so I agree that we could do a normative reference to it.

This might be a design issue. It creates an exception to not having normative references to TCP documents. I think it's ok and may even be useful in this case.

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Fixes #3245.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3246

Commit Summary

  • Make RFC6928 normative

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[ci skip] From nobody Sat Nov 16 21:08:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CF1120043 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:08:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9BRqwrWbNtJO for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D27F4120018 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC82C60588 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:08:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573967299; bh=0XM/R2XeoUJ6BBGezRlUiw46v5dGVeYC30KfbxoFnj8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Tl/ihX1xJApaG9MbqkhGWhRwCAYQpg9LmcUGgnI0YprGPOzpQYGSiwO5jrgoFcEnn WvNaF6POKgALxYrXk33olQX/+QaMobJyrftcQef90LQnI153lwHclTQvaMp6J4jMZ1 SVZtrK69uA2cwpRT5R8eYKl7PoAnUG0G2DLhYjQ8= Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:08:19 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] I am concerned the congestion control text is too permissive. (#3247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd0d5c31df08_1ef93fa8ec6cd96c2616c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:08:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d5c31df08_1ef93fa8ec6cd96c2616c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The docs call out that the design is based on (new)Reno. That is good and suitable for a PS. I have no problem here. However, there are several places where the text is very permissive "MAY..." that suggests the PS can implement this or anything else. This combination seems awkward for a PS. I'd hoped that we could allow experimentation with new CC's but say SHOULD use an IETF-specified congestion control method, or something text close to that, and change the MAYs into something more helpful. I think this is an easy piece of text to get correct. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3247 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d5c31df08_1ef93fa8ec6cd96c2616c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The docs call out that the design is based on (new)Reno. That is good and suitable for a PS. I have no problem here.

However, there are several places where the text is very permissive "MAY..." that suggests the PS can implement this or anything else. This combination seems awkward for a PS. I'd hoped that we could allow experimentation with new CC's but say SHOULD use an IETF-specified congestion control method, or something text close to that, and change the MAYs into something more helpful. I think this is an easy piece of text to get correct.

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Fixes #3247. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix congestion control permissiveness -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (29) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d680284ab_5c053f82b04cd96c1323c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also changes NewReno to Reno because of pedantry (not from Gorry).

Fixes #3247.

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  • Fix congestion control permissiveness

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----==_mimepart_5dd0d6ea1cfcf_33933fef6a2cd9605241d2-- From nobody Sat Nov 16 21:14:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD1F120147 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3T25_NBfNcoy for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 278DA120086 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C452960024 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573967687; bh=3S/+4h7eCiZ1I2uweBn5hFDcsWdy4sbCGaOe1Lm9aDI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LByThJVr5C1UIuKP4kzGVBtsFKpvsPU87SB2xWBnnB28J5tecphEPtbgSZUdVo7E0 3YRqXPyy3ce5RBUR/RuA++AZbVTeaNYRQGiUs02blx1rtTu5Lh3TyST6FK2PG4e6Bp wJ3z9MIhOFbxHcbMBlnGnb0ucUWOAQXd+ew7JqJI= Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:14:47 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] I am concerned the congestion control text is too permissive. (#3247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd0d7474d3cc_2cb53fb306acd96c720754"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:14:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d7474d3cc_2cb53fb306acd96c720754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please check appendices, e.g. " Constants used in loss recovery are based on a combination of RFCs, papers, and common practice. Some may need to be changed or negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments." - that final sentence needs thought. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3247#issuecomment-554706175 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d7474d3cc_2cb53fb306acd96c720754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Please check appendices, e.g.

" Constants used in loss recovery are based on a combination of RFCs,
papers, and common practice. Some may need to be changed or
negotiated in order to better suit a variety of environments."

  • that final sentence needs thought.

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Note that "host" in the remaining uses is strictly interpreted in the RFC 1122 sense, so I left those alone. I considered sorting the terms section differently, and might still alphabetize that, but this isn't problematic just yet. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3249 -- Commit Summary -- * Use host less as appropriate * Define "address" -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (13) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3249.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3249.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3249 ----==_mimepart_5dd0d9f3cddf4_7abe3f8f4b6cd968855966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Some definitional work for terms that were poorly used.

Note that "host" in the remaining uses is strictly interpreted in the RFC 1122 sense, so I left those alone.

I considered sorting the terms section differently, and might still alphabetize that, but this isn't problematic just yet.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3249

Commit Summary

  • Use host less as appropriate
  • Define "address"

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I think this was left over from earlier.

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I think this is design, so it's in limbo at the moment. Also, I need to re-read RFC8085 and ensure that MUST is viable.

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I think this is an editorial issue.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3252

Commit Summary

  • endpoints never requests a CID

File Changes

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----==_mimepart_5dd0f724a44ec_66343fa9408cd95c140309-- From nobody Sat Nov 16 23:43:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D361200A3 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w3fNeGBw1DGA for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FF5B1200BA for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:43:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 23:43:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573976628; bh=0rtJXjWbLOyhKEZzzyiyyczPYEgkwqa7+tWDML6F7Ww=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OQ+HMG6MbX1noYcaOO3VvIU7Q2Ao8IJZf48cWkrCk7USbEn5r9mtXgJLtXr2JeAg/ LHomMhsfoJ/PK9a4jkW5Sz9bWiTnBB20PpFAdvs/5rotu3ZCWLJo5gMS+Bo6msECkj C+a7bdIKkdrBE83z2RDjn4LBHX8RaRoOwAks4XY4= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] enforce the active_connection_id_limit (#3201) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd0fa3475dcf_77f73f7edeecd96016694a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 07:43:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd0fa3475dcf_77f73f7edeecd96016694a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -4590,8 +4595,11 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): active_connection_id_limit (0x000e): : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing - to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID - frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. + to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames, + the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID + provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + If the active_connection_id_limit parameter is absent, a default of 2 is + assumed. Values below 2 are invalid. The default and minimal values of 2 look odd, when using a zero-length CID. Maybe rephrase to: > Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If the active_connection_id_limit parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed. > > When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST NOT be sent. The rationale behind the last sentence is that it disputable if we consider CIDL=0 as the absence of CID or as the use of zero-length CID. The value of active_connection_id_limit becomes zero or one based on the view you choose. Hence my preference to require absence of the TP when a zero-length CID is used. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3201#pullrequestreview-318005163 ----==_mimepart_5dd0fa3475dcf_77f73f7edeecd96016694a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,11 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  If the active_connection_id_limit parameter is absent, a default of 2 is
+  assumed. Values below 2 are invalid.

The default and minimal values of 2 look odd, when using a zero-length CID.

Maybe rephrase to:

Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If the active_connection_id_limit parameter is absent, a default of 2 is
assumed.

When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST NOT be sent.

The rationale behind the last sentence is that it disputable if we consider CIDL=0 as the absence of CID or as the use of zero-length CID. The value of active_connection_id_limit becomes zero or one based on the view you choose. Hence my preference to require absence of the TP when a zero-length CID is used.

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xml2rfc v3 format prohibits the use of these, which will cause problems.
This makes the anchors longer, so feel free to go with something else.

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Shouldn't endpoint always set DF for all QUIC packets? TCP does so.

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----==_mimepart_5dd14e46533d6_62c33f8959ecd96c43636f-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 05:45:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186BD120100 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BvLW43ZhMsi8 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E73C81200CD for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E2BA003A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573998315; bh=WPD96qE/+1bJJkamZ2dXNsz/outX2ZIppaXBnp3S6ME=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1uKj86Z73lx4ZJzHj1s550PnANtPpyd//IGU0iWq11rlcOljCATqt9/wbaoT2dDyG DecPZyPm+uR8bd2+VvYIEllT1CJrexzvxn8hlRnN4WL3vl5r6BUr671lWM5WSKP5y4 E0eKWGiGuPzRIEEPh87b10g5YfBisOJHb8XsXkis= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:15 -0800 From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommend algorithm for packet scheduler, rather than implementation (#3122) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd14eeb372a5_4c63fca280cd96013500f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 13:45:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd14eeb372a5_4c63fca280cd96013500f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. I found this reference pretty odd and it could become dated in time. I don't think we need to refer implementers to any particular implementation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3122#issuecomment-554747138 ----==_mimepart_5dd14eeb372a5_4c63fca280cd96013500f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree. I found this reference pretty odd and it could become dated in time. I don't think we need to refer implementers to any particular implementation.

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----==_mimepart_5dd14eeb372a5_4c63fca280cd96013500f1-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 05:50:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FC2120108 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:50:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qgiuMRN2BjRO for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB4131200CD for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:50:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:50:01 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1573998601; bh=HJe6sdTCChuFvW/p76Ofu2/GkzixI5lzOh0S0a6fRmY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sO0HJPU+Ut8FOIRTGTLLFasuiyS+DSzOzEPGO+jnPbRzCBj7JCqZmMLhMc5ZcmcK0 OnAU7eUhNd7pV1d497Io7tm3imS6Bz7GEvAgPH3qnhPHMSjbv4SowyacOz88S6K0m/ bjvAEEmDRcDi5agxUkHs5MsVZacoTCVCpXyCbt7M= From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] congestion window increase on every ACKed packet could result in bursty sends (#3094) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd15009af50_3b863fe0ecacd96c829391"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 13:50:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd15009af50_3b863fe0ecacd96c829391 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that when not pacing, using an ABC limit is appropriate. FWIW Windows TCP was using a limit of 4 and not 2 for a long time and now uses 8 which is pretty close to IW10 burst in slow start phase. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3094#issuecomment-554747535 ----==_mimepart_5dd15009af50_3b863fe0ecacd96c829391 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that when not pacing, using an ABC limit is appropriate. FWIW Windows TCP was using a limit of 4 and not 2 for a long time and now uses 8 which is pretty close to IW10 burst in slow start phase.

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----==_mimepart_5dd15009af50_3b863fe0ecacd96c829391-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 12:04:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3ED120128 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:04:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85mu21LEEqQY for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9AB612011D for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7206E0848 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:04:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574021059; bh=h/rPXFnFg05Gv2qLZcmCKKDkgbcxsST36qqZfl4h7gw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IMfAhwQ6ds7hRy73TxiOWfsEsevKaan7adQZ/m2Fcq2wxFI9zrkWfVqvDWMFBqK0q tKLSdcsEgI4gHLvf4X58VD36bXnz6PBAh8lIpZpSrjlWOJ7+qHC438FIQdxgbATCs1 j8M/wJFDetCXZAtyg/eLRyar+WCQ7sXJoActRR3k= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:04:19 -0800 From: Vidhi Goel Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Limit CWND increase in slow start (#3232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1a7c3bd21_3a2a3fa5abecd96c79163b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: goelvidhi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1a7c3bd21_3a2a3fa5abecd96c79163b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit goelvidhi commented on this pull request. > @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets. return if (congestion_window < ssthresh): // Slow start. - congestion_window += acked_packet.size + if (pacing): + congestion_window += acked_packet.size + else: + // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to + // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in + // {{?RFC3465}} + if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size): + cwnd_increase += bytes_acked + congestion_window += bytes_acked Isn't capping to 2*MSS the desired congestion window? `=` is my intended proposal to cap the congestion window to 2MSS. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#discussion_r347156144 ----==_mimepart_5dd1a7c3bd21_3a2a3fa5abecd96c79163b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

Isn't capping to 2*MSS the desired congestion window? = is my intended proposal to cap the congestion window to 2MSS.

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  • Do we need anything in addition to the existing IW burst limit? A single ACK loss would not cause a burst to exceed the IW10 limit, and multiple consecutive ACK losses in slow start are VERY rare in my experience.
  • Do we need to describe the non-pacing scenarios in the pseudocode, given we recommend pacing? Using CWND to manipulate sending behavior is an

I agree that increasing congestion window and controlling sending rate are orthogonal in theory. But in practice, congestion window is being used in many implementations to indirectly control the sending rate. I think the addition of RFC3465 text and pseudocode is more for completeness than what should be ideal behavior.

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I tend to agree with Praveen here. I think this is something that's under-specified in transport?

I believe it should be in section 14: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-24#section-14

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A zero-length connection ID can be used when a connection ID is not ne= eded to route to the correct endpoint. However, multiplexing connections = on the same local IP address and port while using zero-length connection = IDs will cause failures in the presence of peer connection migration, NAT= rebinding, and client port reuse; and therefore MUST NOT be done unless = an endpoint is certain that those protocol features are not in use.

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If the Destination Connection ID is zero length and the packet matches= the local address and port of a connection where the ho= st used zero-length connection IDs, QUIC processes the packet as part of = that connection.

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Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to = a connection using the connection ID or - for packets with zero-length co= nnection IDs - the local address and port.

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If only the local address is used, the described multiplexing is impos= sible. Multiplexing zero-length connection IDs is useful for reducing ove= rhead when remote clients are known to not use the described features, so= I think this language should be updated to refer to the 4-tuple rather t= han only the local connection.

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Let's open an issue. At this stage, I want to be very particular about this sort of change, even if it is quite clearly within the bounds of established principles.

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----==_mimepart_5dd1dd13c2cec_72113fea4d6cd960719b0-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 16:03:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0703F120232 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:03:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2cCuGhDhsaUq for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF48B12022A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C02C33DA for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574035425; bh=NV5x7JROvjJs2D72KxPdSH8musFU2xOnbpRlkM2GtRw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gdZ7u7CGxajjQQTEyl8Iiqz7jnouFSMKYbFvYPLe8UyNjJUZMCFHEgI6mIDbUOCvg xrlOpEKFC6hOfbERLO++aQ2PwlIxdpo9j1j/fV6eMoMsVnRbeOqX2NQ8abf00B24rE c11LBLAkRTQUs5ihQvUzOLcSspq7+hyvghKm5ugA= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:03:45 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handling of corrupt Retry packets (#3014) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1dfe1af7cb_b7e3f9c68acd96c110372"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:03:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1dfe1af7cb_b7e3f9c68acd96c110372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moving discussion back here to address @ekr's [request](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3120#issuecomment-554271932) to encrypt the token. Discussion thus far identified a very minor performance/value trade-off. Running AES might cost some. This is minor, as the key is fixed and so the AES key preparation costs are erased; you might even pregenerate the fixed key stream and just run XOR. With that realization, we observed that the value provided by encryption was equivalent to the difficulty of applying that XOR. There is a step higher, which is to use a key derived from the connection ID, but that depends on running a KDF and setting up AES, which I think we all agreed was prohibitive. I think that the idea of moving from a 0 key to a fixed key is easy, so we should definitely do that even if we do nothing else. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3014#issuecomment-554803356 ----==_mimepart_5dd1dfe1af7cb_b7e3f9c68acd96c110372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Moving discussion back here to address @ekr's request to encrypt the token.

Discussion thus far identified a very minor performance/value trade-off. Running AES might cost some. This is minor, as the key is fixed and so the AES key preparation costs are erased; you might even pregenerate the fixed key stream and just run XOR. With that realization, we observed that the value provided by encryption was equivalent to the difficulty of applying that XOR.

There is a step higher, which is to use a key derived from the connection ID, but that depends on running a KDF and setting up AES, which I think we all agreed was prohibitive.

I think that the idea of moving from a 0 key to a fixed key is easy, so we should definitely do that even if we do nothing else.

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Merged #3252 into master.

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(#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1e0e2a7803_72623fabd28cd968919fa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:08:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e0e2a7803_72623fabd28cd968919fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see RFC 8085 in the list of normative references already. Was there something in particular that you think we should be explicitly depending on? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I see RFC 8085 in the list of normative references already. Was there something in particular that you think we should be explicitly depending on?

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...Or, I realize now, does this comment apply to the recovery document?

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----==_mimepart_5dd1e130fe07_52873fcc3becd960417632-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 16:15:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F0612004A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:15:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TZuZJNhpa2f7 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDCE512000F for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:15:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:15:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574036128; bh=+drMtLaliQVWT+zdzNRMDlEiXEVWJdxEJTqofUg1AWE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bbSfGfPopRAZpEdXr91CWxnZEv3JeFtb5RjXNygfR0k7BDH/7e8B9lC2xITjEaCXJ usCZl2lpjpQu0zEJegbwmXyaEbo0fDqq5q1vDeUvoWt04toy7u+Q+9ORDbyLZkaw0B xGD53aoeOC/YfL8VjDLvOTXHaq9/JYVhntzv2amg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] use a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame to drive the handshake to confirmation (#3145) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1e2a054b25_4c773fa191ecd96c10451a0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:15:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e2a054b25_4c773fa191ecd96c10451a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson approved this pull request. One comment, but this is good. > @@ -5495,6 +5497,24 @@ Reason Phrase: This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}. +## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame} + +The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of +the handshake to the client. The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional +fields. + +This frame can only be sent by the server. Servers MUST NOT send a +HANDSHAKE_DONE frame before completing the handshake. A server MUST treat +receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type +PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. + +A client MAY treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it sent with 1-RTT +keys as receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame. This can be implemented by recording I misread this first sentence at first and got the wrong impression. I think that this belongs in the other document, but it should probably instead say that: > A client MAY consider the handshake to be confirmed when it receives an acknowledgement for a 1-RTT packet. ...[the how to implement bit] -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3145#pullrequestreview-318056964 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e2a054b25_4c773fa191ecd96c10451a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson approved this pull request.

One comment, but this is good.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,24 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. Servers MUST NOT send a
+HANDSHAKE_DONE frame before completing the handshake.  A server MUST treat
+receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type
+PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
+
+A client MAY treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it sent with 1-RTT
+keys as receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame.  This can be implemented by recording

I misread this first sentence at first and got the wrong impression. I think that this belongs in the other document, but it should probably instead say that:

A client MAY consider the handshake to be confirmed when it receives an acknowledgement for a 1-RTT packet. ...[the how to implement bit]

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----==_mimepart_5dd1e2a054b25_4c773fa191ecd96c10451a0-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 16:17:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8066712004A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:17:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WffhwZs_Ruh3 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72E2B12000F for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:17:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:17:14 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574036234; bh=awMs52ZghvcLyHfKjzUlXs0VvbOA3V3/lqSOZIro0s4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uQryQ2DzTKpzPiZS+AnS0IDC6G1ATCw9uYpFXXUYorsAOKXvfmW0oxCKhzJpP59FS 6W9egURd1Prb9uw/cz7gWJVszGI2nwPZaXr5baemaHwJaIVPXavmLEaMV0GfRFV4Qx UQcZ4W7x11J7rKPeRyQCBKT2iedCTaub7vEgCrMc= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add caution when using IW10 and fragmentation (#3243) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1e30aad527_29da3ffb98ccd96c7556e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:17:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e30aad527_29da3ffb98ccd96c7556e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, this is probably an issue in transport. DF seems like the obvious answer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3243#issuecomment-554804759 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e30aad527_29da3ffb98ccd96c7556e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yeah, this is probably an issue in transport. DF seems like the obvious answer.

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This was intended for the recovery doc.

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----==_mimepart_5dd1e665a0864_55033f9066ccd9649006ac-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 16:36:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9770C1207FB for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lA_O1HfslTRy for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37D7512020A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CC69604AB for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574037379; bh=AnQsrBEIKEZ4BBl4ode95zw4343q4VCDRlQT3AntSrA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VTlOcicG4TSzTvPBkdHzkdJ24jz8O2Hleh651ff5sBuuhnxtQcZrJeWAz+bGY3XMV +F1i4NTGLCGtVQxSR95ne0Xws+Mxu3nnSSy5jFBGkmNOVTSoUP+hzqL6idshF9ajZx 93SkCDy6mZhW6aC+CZThBKLG2EoCo1yFmDYGf8q8= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:19 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can we make a normative ref to RFC8085? (#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1e78350650_55d13fb3ee8cd96c2753824"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:36:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e78350650_55d13fb3ee8cd96c2753824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahh, the comment still applies then. What specific items in RFC 8085 would this need to depend on? We don't just add normative dependencies without that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3244#issuecomment-554806795 ----==_mimepart_5dd1e78350650_55d13fb3ee8cd96c2753824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ahh, the comment still applies then. What specific items in RFC 8085 would this need to depend on? We don't just add normative dependencies without that.

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----==_mimepart_5dd1e78350650_55d13fb3ee8cd96c2753824-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 18:15:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC30112011F for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id frwCtVTmsA8i for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E6E120048 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DB6520C23 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574043301; bh=UVmL93XpYeJBYBP1Nr70ukIufSp/mhxqQ4TBY+0Ja9o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iZxHuWjm9P1RMLb1H7viTLjJhSpEphdSERiO9xW2KZ3pqWWS2feBUd5QPJmLhh/9g /cpba+LpjYspHBJtMndgwey/X+Skew/QmfjOt8lHh704qlvrurAZuIdkQ5Tov0obWo DDDFFQNsV2ddawJ/e0fQO/RTed3lFzPiI80XQeqw= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 18:15:01 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can we make a normative ref to RFC8085? (#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd1fea556a10_41d43feab54cd968117894"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:15:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd1fea556a10_41d43feab54cd968117894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, this comment targets recovery. I think the editors can propose text referring to the draft - there is no intended change to the technical spec. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3244#issuecomment-554821548 ----==_mimepart_5dd1fea556a10_41d43feab54cd968117894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, this comment targets recovery. I think the editors can propose text referring to the draft - there is no intended change to the technical spec.

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----==_mimepart_5dd1fea556a10_41d43feab54cd968117894-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 19:33:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEDA12008A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qu5TLsdbhbk6 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D0212004C for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:33:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:33:07 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574047987; bh=EBHfRNzoWk7L5/qEcnCy574VkoO3jDZjg+o1qVyT1vE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k3ko/+uXKLZlNXpKPFA0SeWDPLfUc0pB9YzF9ioGiql4Td1VlZQj3+rvIlb5VZzQ6 TZQIK+4ca5Gtpuo3we8PxORyogpK4kPfmCiccDsELN3hpjLkUTqPvnmLN9avpAZLq/ cpKOaVPKyNRVUz+lKoPwRI/NSci9CabDk099qrA8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can we make a normative ref to RFC8085? (#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd210f3aa737_4ec53f8194ccd96891005f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 03:33:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd210f3aa737_4ec53f8194ccd96891005f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry, I perhaps wasn't clear. This is not stated as an issue. "This document doesn't cite X" isn't an issue. Is there something specific that is in RFC 8085 that is needed to address an issue? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3244#issuecomment-554836389 ----==_mimepart_5dd210f3aa737_4ec53f8194ccd96891005f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm sorry, I perhaps wasn't clear. This is not stated as an issue. "This document doesn't cite X" isn't an issue. Is there something specific that is in RFC 8085 that is needed to address an issue?

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----==_mimepart_5dd210f3aa737_4ec53f8194ccd96891005f-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 19:55:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CBB1208A2 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:55:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VRJla0h4nf28 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B53F12082A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794EC6A049E for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:55:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574049328; bh=KfJuAHtd4SnFk1JJUd5KuqO43uhRWJokYEgrNWPkD7k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZvbFS2+/rUlkS1KCWnqhqwAFyoeSth+zOooQHgR9nIEbHMFG04lINOn3Wj/acNZLM Xe9PRG0HNfRbP5BqktrxPOdEWVh4H2fTuZVuUXXcz5pA0Q0kfSlhTBFuuyQakIrVkT 9x9X096BSmQMiiul7D8bA/Ek/yP8pZJwSKbJ+au8= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:55:28 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can we make a normative ref to RFC8085? (#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd2163069fed_3b3e3feab54cd96812940b0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 03:55:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd2163069fed_3b3e3feab54cd96812940b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suspect what I have in PR 3248 (=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248) ought to address this. I= =0D think Gorry wanted to have normative reference for congestion control=0D conformance.=0D =0D On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:33 AM Martin Thomson =0D wrote:=0D =0D > I'm sorry, I perhaps wasn't clear. This is not stated as an issue. "Thi= s=0D > document doesn't cite X" isn't an issue. Is there something specific th= at=0D > is in RFC 8085 that is needed to address an issue?=0D >=0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > ,=0D > or unsubscribe=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3244#issuecomment-554840758= ----==_mimepart_5dd2163069fed_3b3e3feab54cd96812940b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suspect what I have in PR 3248 (
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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Nov 17 20:04:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BD1120876 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ccb_CSHiWHF for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B051208BF for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 20:04:34 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574049874; bh=hnn3QwhyXE4WJbcx8MIdwhi31mqJobPrPR4ZV+ImtTE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OdOYftOy4YwlJwYzcOJuvVqZ3X8vMTOtmRIMsNAucUNmRzo3q0Mfc3gAPyKO+Mhjx nZcv/6SauctLfYoUdfRfPli9w0yLP9bgXJ5Fp1PKd6iTKthnV5yRJIeQTCltkU6qaZ vtopNw/89HfSCNb0EVLZtyOLULgtNoHr413PkMh0= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd21852254d2_68463fa191ecd96c15147a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 04:04:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd21852254d2_68463fa191ecd96c15147a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Following a discussion on Slack (cc @jlaine, @nibanks, @rpaulo ), I feel a clarification might be needed on how/which INITIAL packets should be padded to 1200 bytes. E.g., https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-24#section-8.1 states: > Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets have UDP payloads of at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets in the datagram as necessary. Some people (cc @nibanks) interpret this to mean ALL packets containing initials should be padded (e.g., also an initial ACK from the client to the server) and not just the first initials with crypto data from the client. However, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-24#section-14 somewhat contradicts/restates this: > The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see Section 12.2). @nibanks said he feels this should be removed/restated. I personally don't know why ALL initials should be padded outside of the first flight... @nibanks mentioned the stateless LB use case, where they could drop all initials < 1200 bytes, though I'm not sure why a LB would do this... @rpaulo mentioned that padding the client's initial ACKs gives additional allowance towards the 3X amplification factor limit, but as those intitial ACKS will arrive with/close to the client's first handshake packet (which validates the path, IIUC, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-24#section-8.1). Either way, I feel the text should be tightened to clarify the intended use. Full disclosure: we're working on some dirty stuff that spoofs/abuses QUIC initials to carry in-band metadata, so we'd really not like intermediaries dropping < 1200 byte initials by default. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Following a discussion on Slack (cc @jlaine, @nibanks<= /a>, @rpaulo ), I feel a clarification might be needed on how/wh= ich INITIAL packets should be padded to 1200 bytes.

E.g., https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -quic-transport-24#section-8.1 states:

Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets
have UDP payloads of at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets
in the datagram as necessary.

Some people (cc @nibanks) interpret this to mean ALL packet= s containing initials should be padded (e.g., also an initial ACK from th= e client to the server) and not just the first initials with crypto data = from the client.

However, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iet= f-quic-transport-24#section-14 somewhat contradicts/restates this:

The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the
Initial packet and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see
Section 12.2).

@nibanks said he feels this should be removed/restated.

=

I personally don't know why ALL initials should be padded outside of t= he first flight... @nibanks mentioned the stateless LB use cas= e, where they could drop all initials < 1200 bytes, though I'm not sur= e why a LB would do this... @rpaulo mentioned that padding the c= lient's initial ACKs gives additional allowance towards the 3X amplificat= ion factor limit, but as those intitial ACKS will arrive with/close to th= e client's first handshake packet (which validates the path, IIUC, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-= 24#section-8.1).

Either way, I feel the text should be tightened to clarify the intende= d use.
Full disclosure: we're working on some dirty stuff that spoofs/abuses QUI= C initials to carry in-band metadata, so we'd really not like intermediar= ies dropping < 1200 byte initials by default.

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

I believe the basic intention of RFC3465 (section 2.3) is limiting cwnd increase during slow start per ACK, (e.g. one ACK acknowledges 4 MSS --> only increase cwnd by 2 MSS, not 4 MSS), not resetting cwnd. If cwnd is reset to 2xMSS, it is basically same to idle timeout scenario.

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"Some people (cc @nibanks) interpret this to mean ALL packets containing initials should be padded"

This matches my interpretation and sounds simple and straightforward.

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----==_mimepart_5dd2229c4708a_3b573f7edeecd960108155b-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 21:52:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EEC120880 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:52:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JBP4F-iSVNmc for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 737B212086C for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AF48C044D for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:52:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574056338; bh=OXmLmBfbIiRojW9Rx/adMprAXGVLL2E3tdSMtKffcE8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QqLBn7L89vYxAFIAQ8D6XTFNuNuCo0AYZRNdx9TPdrhBZkOU6zNlExX+EL32e8weV lrQbie8bAS3sH9RK4B/KYECYCpv2U91kXwRJcKBMrI6IZGDjFX519dK6J8hTdMO9g4 ZgVOMCHzUTiChuheQ9FVdNUQnjb8gpmfzD7tv7ns= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:52:18 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd2319281a07_2c1a3fea452cd96c13723d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 05:52:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd2319281a07_2c1a3fea452cd96c13723d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. We have the consensus to require *every* datagram containing an Initial packet to be padded. See #2522. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3255#issuecomment-554863484 ----==_mimepart_5dd2319281a07_2c1a3fea452cd96c13723d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes. We have the consensus to require every datagram containing an Initial packet to be padded. See #2522.

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To clarify, section 8.1 talks about client Initials. @RyanAtGoogle at @kazuho are you saying all datagrams containing client Initial packets or all datagrams containing Initial packets?

I think there are some uses for non-padded server to client Initials, such as a CONNECTION_CLOSE.

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Gorry suggested that the QUIC recovery draft should specifically recommend against packet reordering thresholds less than 3 because it will not be sufficiently tolerant of real-world reordering.

Pull #3240 already created.

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----==_mimepart_5dd23b574de89_17ea3fe697ecd96c28105-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 22:35:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F016120877 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GEHFseGYOeTS for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F1771200B3 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B700A05FF for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574058905; bh=zB3XJE9zpfcF55u+q7Z1jC2eVr3IXl2mPPUM92A5soY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BnniOunbEwzdcwbH0K/PN9QofqZvIPRXxEZaFDWGrP9uO9aO0bt4QRCcr7cinC6/V JUalWukB35dvASaZYJsUUv6v/0OQ4AKua6TGU3eYujdvBGh4N8ir2x0ffSmrvQfhf1 IKWu4C6Dmo357brFjjgFOjISfmwqnJ2B1XmD4MIA= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:05 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Packet reordering thresholds less than 3 are not sufficiently reordering tolerant (#3256) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd23b995c653_2c1e3fea452cd96c878cc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:35:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd23b995c653_2c1e3fea452cd96c878cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, I think this is likely design because it adds a SHOULD NOT, but it also doesn't substantively change the existing recommendation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3256#issuecomment-554873415 ----==_mimepart_5dd23b995c653_2c1e3fea452cd96c878cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

FWIW, I think this is likely design because it adds a SHOULD NOT, but it also doesn't substantively change the existing recommendation.

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----==_mimepart_5dd23b995c653_2c1e3fea452cd96c878cc-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 22:35:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC2F120877 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gKeCTol0BI5K for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299081200B3 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:35:43 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574058943; bh=36g+5nFCNNOZMwwJCRZWzy+oYqljz0NrdAikPJQ+6Qs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QDpVR7iEEhZMLQc0sxUuLfgopS8lyF9F6KY8xWX/zegZ6rNQiJNslGYgNGvSgGYD8 Ybiml4gzB3/xYewTClwBAebWRgv19qS1hIpm05z3bgQ7PPiRFYUhFBa7V2oybjZ5Zy DzpQ5vUN9hrTK8Sfj6eFOCHP5ONLG2f8KCCww76g= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd23bbf1607f_511d3fbe94ccd96c10996"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:35:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd23bbf1607f_511d3fbe94ccd96c10996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also meant client-sent initials. Though, I assume for asymmetric PMTU reasons, the server's initials should also be 1200+ bytes? IIUC correctly from the comments above: requiring client initial ACKs to also be 1200+ is mainly out of convenience/consistency (#2522)? In that case, the text in section 14 should indeed be updated to make that more clear? I can submit a PR for that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3255#issuecomment-554873537 ----==_mimepart_5dd23bbf1607f_511d3fbe94ccd96c10996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also meant client-sent initials. Though, I assume for asymmetric PMTU reasons, the server's initials should also be 1200+ bytes?

IIUC correctly from the comments above: requiring client initial ACKs to also be 1200+ is mainly out of convenience/consistency (#2522)? In that case, the text in section 14 should indeed be updated to make that more clear? I can submit a PR for that.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Nov 17 22:48:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383681208B5 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:48:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4gbW3SHUILBl for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3AC71200B3 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED822A098F for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:48:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574059706; bh=i5Ed9WRFaDZ8blTIgHpTvsQfnXLfTOZEgZpX/nAAHt4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IIUnWfl8ePWIDs6+uEOi1dqFbgOGVV6CBXgQRIaDBF+LY9MRoM698V4grpASdiSPh itJHQ+toPn8AaXJLt+7LTbTjnxn7WGSAjY8MK1PYQ5Pkk27SWoUGwsRMMcqRtI17Pr 4jglSlVdGzsM25ryxRoAgfIKqHLOm/0vUeH3toT4= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:48:26 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd23ebade6c3_15e23fa3f5ccd96c180589"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:48:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd23ebade6c3_15e23fa3f5ccd96c180589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @rmarx That is my understanding, and I think that a PR would be very welcome. To clarify, the following statement in section 8.1 is correct as I understand: _Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets have UDP payloads of at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets in the datagram as necessary._. The text in section 14 seems to be incorrect (likely out-of-date). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3255#issuecomment-554876575 ----==_mimepart_5dd23ebade6c3_15e23fa3f5ccd96c180589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@rmarx That is my understanding, and I think that a PR would be very welcome.

To clarify, the following statement in section 8.1 is correct as I understand: Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets have UDP payloads of at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets in the datagram as necessary..

The text in section 14 seems to be incorrect (likely out-of-date).

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The draft says:

The random selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths.

However, given that each endpoint needs to decide for itself whether it is enabling spin bit, it is not exactly clear whether each endpoint SHOULD disable spin bit on at least 1/8 (=12.5%) of connections, or it can assume that the other endpoint is also making a random decision to disable and disable only on 1-sqrt(7/8) (=6.5%) of connections.

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----==_mimepart_5dd245dcb11bf_27ed3fe697ecd96c2248a1-- From nobody Sun Nov 17 23:59:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE871208E8 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:58:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G_mZfFOdWroa for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B5AD1200B2 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:58:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:58:57 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574063937; bh=IO6hU932v2BjTltbTORmmgvmqZbQaANN1w5LZVRqKVw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dqhuS3mBEN2E9T+TnoXTn6udWBvtlw3ga1eGJyjA5lgtgUucB9yzXdAftdfpnfY8/ y0QPC6XLtSnJy7pPDnMw37dymGJ8ijnC0RUgYewLE4X5gNlQ4Sz86tXc1FQR9lXwep od2dCGUfTlnfollPkQ59y/6nULr92Wu3dKR75NJg= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEEDED error when CRYPTO frame goes beyond 2^62 bytes (#3258) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd24f41645b7_6de03fd4410cd9603203d3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 07:59:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd24f41645b7_6de03fd4410cd9603203d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When discussing #3027 at Cupertino, we agreed that either of the following two errors can be sent when the payload of the STREAM frame exceeds 2^62 bytes: * FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR * FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR And we've merged PR #3042 that made that change, along with other changes. However, in that PR, we failed to apply the rule that we agreed for SRTEAM frame to CRYPTO frame. Editors' draft now allows use of FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR for CRYPTO frames, but not CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED. As CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED *is* the flow control error for CRYPTO streams, that should be permitted too. To be fixed by PR #3186. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3258 ----==_mimepart_5dd24f41645b7_6de03fd4410cd9603203d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

When discussing #3027 at Cupertino, we agreed that either of the following two errors can be sent when the payload of the STREAM frame exceeds 2^62 bytes:

  • FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR
  • FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR

And we've merged PR #3042 that made that change, along with other changes. However, in that PR, we failed to apply the rule that we agreed for SRTEAM frame to CRYPTO frame.

Editors' draft now allows use of FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR for CRYPTO frames, but not CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED.

As CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED is the flow control error for CRYPTO streams, that should be permitted too.

To be fixed by PR #3186.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,11 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  If the active_connection_id_limit parameter is absent, a default of 2 is
+  assumed. Values below 2 are invalid.

Thanks for catching this. I updated the PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5495,6 +5497,24 @@ Reason Phrase:
   This SHOULD be a UTF-8 encoded string {{!RFC3629}}.
 
 
+## HANDSHAKE_DONE frame {#handshake-done-frame}
+
+The server uses the HANDSHAKE_DONE frame (type=0x1e) to signal confirmation of
+the handshake to the client.  The HANDSHAKE_DONE frame contains no additional
+fields.
+
+This frame can only be sent by the server. Servers MUST NOT send a
+HANDSHAKE_DONE frame before completing the handshake.  A server MUST treat
+receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame as a connection error of type
+PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
+
+A client MAY treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it sent with 1-RTT
+keys as receipt of a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame.  This can be implemented by recording

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as the author of this passage, I intended the latter (assume the other side is disabling as well, so 1-sqrt(7/8)), but the "at least" is in there since just disabling 1/8 is probably what people will do, and the result (about 1/4) is "at least 1/8".

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An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the -active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide -more connection IDs than the peer's limit. +active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint MUST NOT provide +more connection IDs than the peer's limit. An endpoint that receives more +connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the +connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. I'm in agreement with @MikeBishop -- I would suggest changing this to a SHOULD error. This is different than the flow control errors, since an endpoint does not have to store all connection IDs that have been received. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I'm in agreement with @MikeBishop -- I would suggest changing this to a SHOULD error. This is different than the flow control errors, since an endpoint does not have to store all connection IDs that have been received.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I might suggest having a design discussion in the issue (i.e. #3193) rather than here. There has been certain amount of discussion in that issue, and it seems to me that we have preference for MUST NOT.

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I'm not sure that I'm against the SHOULD, but I think the idea behind enforcing this was that an endpoint would indeed now need to store every CID it receives, and if it's not willing to store X amount, then it shouldn't have advertised a limit of X.

And even if you still didn't store them all, you technically don't need to store them to keep track of how many you've been issued, which you'll probably need in order to cope with getting Retire Prior To anyways.

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A few comments. I think the enforcement is useful, but requiring it is not necessary. > @@ -1033,10 +1036,12 @@ longer plans to use that address. An endpoint can cause its peer to retire connection IDs by sending a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame with an increased Retire Prior To field. Upon receipt, -the peer MUST retire the corresponding connection IDs using RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID -frames. Failure to retire the connection IDs within approximately one PTO can -cause packets to be delayed, lost, or cause the original endpoint to send a -stateless reset in response to a connection ID it can no longer route correctly. +the peer MUST first retire the corresponding connection IDs using +NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames and then add the newly provided connection ID to the ```suggestion RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames and then add the newly provided connection ID to the ``` > @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): active_connection_id_limit (0x000e): : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing - to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID - frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. + to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames, + the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID + provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the + active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this + transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed. + When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit + parameter MUST NOT be sent. I think this change is unnecessary and detrimental. Why is this useful? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3201#pullrequestreview-318191803 ----==_mimepart_5dd2656dbde67_203b3faa508cd964171082 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the
+  active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this
+  transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed.
+  When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit
+  parameter MUST NOT be sent.

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----==_mimepart_5dd2660e6721_31d43fcd544cd9645414b-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 01:37:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771CE12095A for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:37:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t3Lvq0OiIYxO for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0851812096A for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:37:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:37:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574069835; bh=3DG1mrwq558Am/26lIVxySDLyG9BlkQTs/Of7cw9kBk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CDQtU0cy5qNC6BzhANmR6zwzqVwIeRUogVOOybYlYzP3G86xDXXASLwqbwAA5hrP+ ubjjJcCtf3y20kG5+SM5mYB2kUG6IXuPu3TAXQ5pFuqELD9IuTpo88D93eQGLCO9OY LiZQloVQiWj4D5l/OtbTxE0NH/j45Fk3m0Rw5zvg= From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd2664b32c7d_74e43fd3e36cd968335d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: erickinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:37:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd2664b32c7d_74e43fd3e36cd968335d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proxying from the PR in regards to enforcing MUST error if the limit is exceeded: @MikeBishop: > "MUST error" requires tracking. It's possible that an implementation might decide to drop some CIDs and reduce the number it keeps without closing the connection. "SHOULD/MAY error" provides the same deterrent effect for the issuer's misbehavior without placing a requirement on the receiver. @marten-seemann: > We're requiring other limit checks (e.g. for STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR and for FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR), so I'd prefer to keep this a requirement as well. > >I don't think dropping should be regarded as acceptable behavior (although you can't prevent implementations from doing it), since a CID issued by an endpoint consumes state on that endpoint as well. @janaiyengar: > I'm in agreement with @MikeBishop -- I would suggest changing this to a SHOULD error. This is different than the flow control errors, since an endpoint does not have to store all connection IDs that have been received. @kazuho: > I might suggest having a design discussion in the issue (i.e. #3193) rather than here. There has been certain amount of discussion in that issue, and it seems to me that we have preference for MUST NOT. @erickinnear: > I'm not sure that I'm against the SHOULD, but I think the idea behind enforcing this was that an endpoint would indeed now need to store every CID it receives, and if it's not willing to store X amount, then it shouldn't have advertised a limit of X. > > And even if you still didn't store them all, you technically don't need to store them to keep track of how many you've been issued, which you'll probably need in order to cope with getting Retire Prior To anyways. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-554934384 ----==_mimepart_5dd2664b32c7d_74e43fd3e36cd968335d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Proxying from the PR in regards to enforcing MUST error if the limit is exceeded:
@MikeBishop:

"MUST error" requires tracking. It's possible that an implementation might decide to drop some CIDs and reduce the number it keeps without closing the connection. "SHOULD/MAY error" provides the same deterrent effect for the issuer's misbehavior without placing a requirement on the receiver.

@marten-seemann:

We're requiring other limit checks (e.g. for STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR and for FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR), so I'd prefer to keep this a requirement as well.

I don't think dropping should be regarded as acceptable behavior (although you can't prevent implementations from doing it), since a CID issued by an endpoint consumes state on that endpoint as well.

@janaiyengar:

I'm in agreement with @MikeBishop -- I would suggest changing this to a SHOULD error. This is different than the flow control errors, since an endpoint does not have to store all connection IDs that have been received.

@kazuho:

I might suggest having a design discussion in the issue (i.e. #3193) rather than here. There has been certain amount of discussion in that issue, and it seems to me that we have preference for MUST NOT.

@erickinnear:

I'm not sure that I'm against the SHOULD, but I think the idea behind enforcing this was that an endpoint would indeed now need to store every CID it receives, and if it's not willing to store X amount, then it shouldn't have advertised a limit of X.

And even if you still didn't store them all, you technically don't need to store them to keep track of how many you've been issued, which you'll probably need in order to cope with getting Retire Prior To anyways.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the
+  active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this
+  transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed.
+  When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit
+  parameter MUST NOT be sent.

@janaiyengar PTAL at #3201 (comment).

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@erickinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the
+  active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this
+  transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed.
+  When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit
+  parameter MUST NOT be sent.

(Would you rather it was ignored rather than not sent?)

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----==_mimepart_5dd2677613470_61c33f8349ecd964746b0-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 01:57:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DE512008D for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:57:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oZU7Q8HanMM4 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4513D1207FE for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:56:58 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574071018; bh=yA6qrbN1Pp2EvwTB6cJ2rYnuj5bvig6DPDhYX4HrJv0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pCMB8kmm4qDslzdjk6ZvZsbmHeUpD5LKJo/nZFAg/E74WpiygEhD7HotbEHejsOto BUFunKSRuzotwCW4EXO8IjMjC3+nyNzZDDGwNd1UlCwSUzcqXem7lvn11/tKS34MEl ECqUPqO7bfxWUZDPSizpZL6EHz1w47Z6QHEXxNSE= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd26aea90fa7_170b3fe0938cd96818808b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:57:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd26aea90fa7_170b3fe0938cd96818808b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pretty sure that the text in Section 14 is outdated, and should probably be removed, with a short reference to section 8.1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3255#issuecomment-554941852 ----==_mimepart_5dd26aea90fa7_170b3fe0938cd96818808b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm pretty sure that the text in Section 14 is outdated, and should probably be removed, with a short reference to section 8.1.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -210,6 +210,11 @@ Server:
 
 : The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections.
 
+Address:
+
+: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, UDP
+  protocol, and UDP port number that represents one end of a network path.

What's "UDP protocol"? Did you mean "IP protocol"?

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That was my first answer, but I thought that might be too intrusive. If we all agree that is a fine response, I'm happy with that. I can write up a PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

My bad. I would have to fix this.

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----==_mimepart_5dd26d579fa5a_7d1a3fac148cd96c3699c-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 02:26:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB25A120851 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:26:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uzr0WNVbuLRR for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EE581200DF for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367D52C344C for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:26:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574072775; bh=0ZWhXdrjZjckFCiT10DqFNjGsMvbrqFwIRQ9gRCJBbg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hGaR6KM38Ah/bZkeiknswXRAi2uodR0UIydChT09EBoG0wdyvLRT4P7HCKfFmpQhw V6000iZ279xgcoYjd++K5WnvVc/PtuJiUJHk3QUa3IsnANHTjklqojkpyU0TQ7yC0F v9smehneLfQBNMZzMzzC+J1KZxlTzzdB6VImsVmc= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 02:26:15 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recovery editorial update (#3234) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd271c727e85_37c13ff18e2cd96c22876d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 10:26:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd271c727e85_37c13ff18e2cd96c22876d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -359,8 +354,9 @@ rttvar = 3/4 * rttvar + 1/4 * rttvar_sample # Loss Detection {#loss-detection} -QUIC senders use both ack information and timeouts to detect lost packets, and -this section provides a description of these algorithms. +QUIC senders use acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and a probe +time out {{pto}} to ensure acknowledgements are received. This section Done -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3234#discussion_r347301062 ----==_mimepart_5dd271c727e85_37c13ff18e2cd96c22876d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -359,8 +354,9 @@ rttvar = 3/4 * rttvar + 1/4 * rttvar_sample
 
 # Loss Detection {#loss-detection}
 
-QUIC senders use both ack information and timeouts to detect lost packets, and
-this section provides a description of these algorithms.
+QUIC senders use acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and a probe
+time out {{pto}} to ensure acknowledgements are received. This section

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -532,7 +527,7 @@ keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and
 otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200
 bytes.
 
-Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, but they are
+Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, so they are

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I've incorporated @martinthomson 's suggestion and switched the key from all-zeroes to the initial_salt

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

The below should work in all cases:

if (pacing):
         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
       else:
         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
         // {{?RFC3465}}
         if (cwnd_increase  < 2 * max_datagram_size):
           old_cwnd_increase = cwnd_increase
           cwnd_increase = min(cwnd_increase + acked_packet.size,
                                            2 * max_datagram_size)
           congestion_window += cwnd_increase - old_cwnd_increase

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

See mine at #3232 (comment)
Basically same approach as yours. Note that I removed if and use max() instead of min(). I think either way works fine.

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----==_mimepart_5dd3122012fac_59093fe5dd8cd964145847-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 13:55:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302C2120A2C for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:55:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5CV-XC8ezcfy for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D46F120960 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0C596078D for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574114114; bh=jkc2QvH1Dn7Y26GSxaeyx3UKpItDV8hjveSqhpWRpKc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ghkgMOV3yoHinzftXXDghzfBBuBdsxKOQyCP0XN7GnWcstx7z4bNuBrzKF4AZpRHU rFP4f+ifDYKIkPAmZdN73ZoqeKRX4jeBuz8tjpSDtI6hhvPHIkTy1T3YE9idSp7tGx s9eQOK5yPqVm+9Dit015PASNYZ0k49dFuKCecl48= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:55:14 -0800 From: Vidhi Goel Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Limit CWND increase in slow start (#3232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd313425dadc_192c3fecfd4cd96438438"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: goelvidhi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:55:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd313425dadc_192c3fecfd4cd96438438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit goelvidhi commented on this pull request. > @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets. return if (congestion_window < ssthresh): // Slow start. - congestion_window += acked_packet.size + if (pacing): + congestion_window += acked_packet.size + else: + // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to + // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in + // {{?RFC3465}} + if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size): + cwnd_increase += bytes_acked + congestion_window += bytes_acked I pushed my proposed changes before reading your comment. :-) I am fine with both approaches. This issue will be discussed at IETF either today or tomorrow; we can decide it there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#discussion_r347629917 ----==_mimepart_5dd313425dadc_192c3fecfd4cd96438438 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@goelvidhi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1368,7 +1377,15 @@ acked_packet from sent_packets.
        return
      if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
-       congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       if (pacing):
+         congestion_window += acked_packet.size
+       else:
+         // If pacing is not used, limit the increase to
+         // 2*max_datagram_size per ACK as described in
+         // {{?RFC3465}}
+         if (cwnd_increase < 2 * max_datagram_size):
+           cwnd_increase += bytes_acked
+           congestion_window += bytes_acked

I pushed my proposed changes before reading your comment. :-) I am fine with both approaches.
This issue will be discussed at IETF either today or tomorrow; we can decide it there.

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"When an ACK frame is received that establishes loss of all in-flight packets sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion."

QUIC declares persistent congestion only upon receipt of an ACK for a packet sent after entering loss recovery. This means that the cwnd will remain large and usable even if there is prolonged network silence with packets outstanding. If the state of the transport was application limited, this can cause a large burst on the network.

In TCP, an RTO causes immediate drop of the cwnd to min_cwnd.

Ideally QUIC should drop the cwnd in the same timescale as TCP would. Typically minrto for the Internet is 200 msec or 300 msec (and larger if the RTT is larger).

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QUIC:
PTO = smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay

TCP:
TLP_timeout():
If SRTT is available:
PTO = 2 * SRTT
If FlightSize = 1:
PTO += WCDelAckT
Else:
PTO += 2ms
Else:
PTO = 1 sec

   If Now() + PTO > TCP_RTO_expire():
       PTO = TCP_RTO_expire() - Now()

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QUIC spec uses kMinimumWindow of 2 MSS compared to TCP's 1 MSS. Let's state the deviation and add justifiaiton text.

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That's right, that's just cruft.

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This makes the anchors longer, so feel free to go with something else. Commit: 81c610b900c4b78a7a1415d1005b7a8f5fff3464 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/81c610b900c4b78a7a1415d1005b7a8f5fff3464 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-19 (Tue, 19 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3253 from quicwg/table-tag Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/dfa1d15b6727...81c610b900c4 From nobody Mon Nov 18 16:15:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210C712012E for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:15:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rvJbU8xtZ_6z for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F7601208DD for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C407D6A1AB2 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:15:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574122544; bh=Rc/VvZUQc9ZwU9weXEh3Yhyzbaw8nEGfTjT59g6FflU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YX1zlCSHIL5qd6ixXvsuIG/Wosp1LKH7/IYcWYzeNs8nfvpTD7QaGmhaL4tDtqWXS K8qCdeSGZoAFxo/dsXNytXGgTZrZC+52+lgHp7/VYyUdC09kSZh+kvifVKVCVxS7X+ ix3lFrBqDSLdNmGefhxBXIA09zpYrTmiv6s9antw= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:15:44 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors (#3253) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd33430b4f80_32f43fd89c0cd9607509b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 00:15:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd33430b4f80_32f43fd89c0cd9607509b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3253 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #3253 into master.

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Though there was a suggestion that this could reference other sections, but as this is in some ways the authoritative section on the subject, I decided to keep the requirements. That's duplicative, but I couldn't see a simple way to deal with that. Closes #3255. 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There was a suggestion that this could reference other sections, but as this is in some ways the authoritative section on the subject, I decided to keep the requirements. That's duplicative, but I couldn't see a simple way to deal with that. Closes #3255. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3262 -- Commit Summary -- * Remove some cruft from packet size section -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (29) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3262.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3262.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3262 ----==_mimepart_5dd33b7be278d_209c3f9d866cd9606328b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This section had a bunch of text that wasn't updated as the result of
other changes elsewhere. There was a suggestion that this could
reference other sections, but as this is in some ways the authoritative
section on the subject, I decided to keep the requirements. That's
duplicative, but I couldn't see a simple way to deal with that.

Closes #3255.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3262

Commit Summary

  • Remove some cruft from packet size section

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@nibanks approved this pull request.

Everything looks good, except for the comment I have about already existing text.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in
-response to the first Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP
-datagram is smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in
-response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the offending packet was
-processed as valid.
+response to an Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP datagram is
+smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in response, or

I know it's not part of this PR, but why do we let what is essentially an unauthenticated packet to kill the connection? Shouldn't the packet just be dropped and ignored?

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----==_mimepart_5dd33f1a83af3_b633ffc246cd9681343b9-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 17:21:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36088120071 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QtR5JTiCDqJn for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E83AF12004A for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486D4660051 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574126511; bh=SfFcPiBOxjLNRbGm4AwNHWSMc1/pOy+Zur5CLfrzmvM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1NX596Q8P3yAx8cxo1kJYwWJGS3hwQgbBLsNA0WSIYLTYzkBqo3/E3sET6CSvmVrb T+t9zhkNayYG2qZwPLf/+83v8d67V2cEhtxVOE0ssFF8qQKUehwFv/RA3RTimLXArj G+HABqNsJCQ22kUz1h/U2BsfGX+LSRYesChdqtQ8= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:21:51 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] active_connection_id_limit interacts poorly with Retire Prior To (#3193) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd343af39648_5c463fccfe2cd96c304560"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 01:21:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd343af39648_5c463fccfe2cd96c304560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having discussed this offline with @erickinnear and @kazuho, I now understand the new model that you are proposing. I'm fine with it. I'll leave my comments on the PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3193#issuecomment-555287450 ----==_mimepart_5dd343af39648_5c463fccfe2cd96c304560 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Having discussed this offline with @erickinnear and @kazuho, I now understand the new model that you are proposing. I'm fine with it. I'll leave my comments on the PR.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in
-response to the first Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP
-datagram is smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in
-response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the offending packet was
-processed as valid.
+response to an Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP datagram is
+smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in response, or

At that point, this is not creating the connection as opposed to removing an existing connection. So this is functionally equivalent to dropping, but adds the friendly signal.

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Having chatted about this with @erickinnear and @kazuho, I'm ok with this set of changes. A few suggestions. > @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the -active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide -more connection IDs than the peer's limit. +active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint MUST NOT provide +more connection IDs than the peer's limit. An endpoint that receives more +connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the +connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. I'm ok with this being a MUST. I would suggest that you explicitly add a note saying that an endpoint is expected to store enough information all received CIDs to be able to generate this error. It might be redundant, but that's ok. > @@ -999,12 +999,15 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used. An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the -active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide -more connection IDs than the peer's limit. - -An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet with a -previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unless providing -the new connection ID would exceed the peer's limit. An endpoint MAY limit the +active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint MUST NOT provide +more connection IDs than the peer's limit. An endpoint that receives more +connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the +connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. + +An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when the peer retires a connection +ID. If an endpoint provided fewer connection IDs than the peer's +active_connection_id_limit, it MAY supply a new connection ID when it receives +a packet with a previously unused connection ID. An endpoint MAY limit the Is this MAY necessary? It's certainly not disallowed. I understand how this could be useful, but it seems like a purely server-side optimization, which doesn't need to be specified. Alternatively, how about something like: "An endpoint can but is not required to send as many connection IDs as the peer can store." > @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): active_connection_id_limit (0x000e): : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing - to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID - frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. + to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames, + the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID + provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. Suggested edit: "This value includes the connection ID received during the handshake, that received in the preferred_address transport parameter, and those received in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames." > @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): active_connection_id_limit (0x000e): : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing - to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID - frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed. + to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames, + the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID + provided in the preferred_address transport parameter. + Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the + active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this + transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed. + When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit + parameter MUST NOT be sent. I said detrimental because we used to not encode values on the wire that were illegal ... but we've walked away from that in other places too :-/ I'm ok with this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3201#pullrequestreview-318734402 ----==_mimepart_5dd348cca56f_49183f83894cd960248124 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Having chatted about this with @erickinnear and @kazuho, I'm ok with this set of changes. A few suggestions.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I'm ok with this being a MUST. I would suggest that you explicitly add a note saying that an endpoint is expected to store enough information all received CIDs to be able to generate this error. It might be redundant, but that's ok.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,12 +999,15 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
-
-An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet with a
-previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unless providing
-the new connection ID would exceed the peer's limit.  An endpoint MAY limit the
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when the peer retires a connection
+ID. If an endpoint provided fewer connection IDs than the peer's
+active_connection_id_limit, it MAY supply a new connection ID when it receives
+a packet with a previously unused connection ID.  An endpoint MAY limit the

Is this MAY necessary? It's certainly not disallowed. I understand how this could be useful, but it seems like a purely server-side optimization, which doesn't need to be specified. Alternatively, how about something like: "An endpoint can but is not required to send as many connection IDs as the peer can store."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.

Suggested edit: "This value includes the connection ID received during the handshake, that received in the preferred_address transport parameter, and those received in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.
+  Unless a zero-length connection ID is being used, the value of the
+  active_connection_id_limit parameter MUST be no less than 2. If this
+  transport parameter is absent, a default of 2 is assumed.
+  When a zero-length connection ID is being used, the active_connection_id_limit
+  parameter MUST NOT be sent.

I said detrimental because we used to not encode values on the wire that were illegal ... but we've walked away from that in other places too :-/ I'm ok with this.

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----==_mimepart_5dd348cca56f_49183f83894cd960248124-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 17:51:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8240112022A for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o3PMk0lCOUFd for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE796120220 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B1B960C1F for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574128296; bh=kwvAzjDmTjfz2FWMuWBCMzursA8Xg9LoBUpHpYqDiAo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=09E+lXuWhA+QUQv6GPhK8TwWfEGOvWQlbmtVX3a5hsR2HPW1/JxzDS+0Nn1Osbl4Y h3GmvcJqpaRfpPwa/ISdINVzqpUP92hALtzjkl5mFV68WyrvE/7fBcjkEjuxuqQHM9 XxZphhy33J/I44pJlJBYLiK7skH6TFapKDcZQJGc= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:36 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Limit CWND increase in slow start (#3232) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd34aa88916a_23dd3f84596cd9601749e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 01:51:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd34aa88916a_23dd3f84596cd9601749e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. Now that it's all put together, I think Ian's is a fair question. I'd also like to take the working group's sense on whether we should have this change in the pseudo code. Having it in the text makes sense to me -- that's just parity with TCP for non-paced QUIC flows. That said, the pseudo code is in the Appendix for a reason -- it's perfectly reasonable to add things there or leave things out as we see fit. The code is an example of how things might be done. > @@ -775,7 +775,10 @@ Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection, -not including UDP or IP overhead. +not including UDP or IP overhead. Implementations not using a pacer SHOULD ```suggestion not including UDP or IP overhead. An implementation that does not use pacing SHOULD ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#pullrequestreview-318739432 ----==_mimepart_5dd34aa88916a_23dd3f84596cd9601749e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Now that it's all put together, I think Ian's is a fair question. I'd = also like to take the working group's sense on whether we should have thi= s change in the pseudo code. Having it in the text makes sense to me -- t= hat's just parity with TCP for non-paced QUIC flows.

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That said, the pseudo code is in the Appendix for a reason -- it's per= fectly reasonable to add things there or leave things out as we see fit. = The code is an example of how things might be done.

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@gorryfair commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  
-QUIC hosts MUST NOT send packets if they would increase bytes_in_flight (defined
-in {{vars-of-interest}}) beyond the available congestion window, unless the
-packet is a probe packet sent after a PTO timer expires, as described in
-{{pto}}.
+Endpoints can unilaterally choose a different algorithm to use, such as Cubic

I think this could reads slightly better if we swapped these two sentences. First state is generic - then that you can choose different alg.

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(#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd3502fcd00_2cfd3f98432cd95c15416"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:15:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd3502fcd00_2cfd3f98432cd95c15416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, and WFM - see single comment on the PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Yes, and WFM - see single comment on the PR.

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As concluded in Singapore.

Closes #2792.

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  • Key generation for updates MAY be deferred

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----==_mimepart_5dd351a95444e_52c33fcb4d8cd96461973-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 18:27:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3113120236 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:27:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xGZ01GDq9kNT for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AD4512004E for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A876609FB for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:27:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574130455; bh=1PauhsS6r2FKtN4kkxK7C5i11Jo+05N/JWC7HPR9abo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zTAG8RXwKrFyfxUHBezpA9KuZQCuaXv6Hv3jKa9D5btdt/3RqpDBBBweQHHreTkKx OguNpd/B4fDuBNjmIvl2hyD894hZrbVjkgLcciqunq5s0JS3cSssxKsPgO9jhJuEdG xi60r4RNv9Hs2md49i+3VFXgKS2Tc6dhYwv5Iw0s= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:27:35 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] congestion window increase on every ACKed packet could result in bursty sends (#3094) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd3531727729_37fb3f846d6cd9601192e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:27:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd3531727729_37fb3f846d6cd9601192e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the WG: The proposed PR attempts to include a mechanism to limit CWND increase during slow start when not pacing. I'll note that by itself, it does not guarantee we follow the existing MUST: "Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection, not including UDP or IP overhead." I don't think we should add this to the pseudocode, because we say SHOULD pace packets and the pseudocode currently only covers SHOULDs, not MAYs. Adding all MAYs to the pseudocode is too complex. I don't have a concern about adding a reference to the existing RFC as a mechanism that MAY help limit bursts during slow start. I'd like a decision from the WG on whether to include this change and if so, some criteria on what should be included going forward. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3094#issuecomment-555302900 ----==_mimepart_5dd3531727729_37fb3f846d6cd9601192e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For the WG: The proposed PR attempts to include a mechanism to limit CWND increase during slow start when not pacing. I'll note that by itself, it does not guarantee we follow the existing MUST:
"Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such
bursts to the initial congestion window, which is recommended to be
the minimum of 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size,
14720)), where max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a
datagram for the connection, not including UDP or IP overhead."

I don't think we should add this to the pseudocode, because we say SHOULD pace packets and the pseudocode currently only covers SHOULDs, not MAYs. Adding all MAYs to the pseudocode is too complex.

I don't have a concern about adding a reference to the existing RFC as a mechanism that MAY help limit bursts during slow start.

I'd like a decision from the WG on whether to include this change and if so, some criteria on what should be included going forward.

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----==_mimepart_5dd3531727729_37fb3f846d6cd9601192e2-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 18:29:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B279B120236 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:29:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hgH8HobybDmn for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 641A412004E for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97266C61F05 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:29:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574130566; bh=n18LMddRtAIrPxLxmok2WMvR/GBKgql7tG7BWcaQNAU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XTLCUGk+fs3xqtlX5VJ3nW93HyRU208QaDUFbzsCti6tsHzGWUSfspfjJ+TTQQ6wB Xe6w49xke3q1f/HV/zkqp4P5Ou4xox2U7XKkW8DXa9MVyHpQ6CiW5k5L9WyUnkwQMq CbWmEPPat5srvSa/Dt0hLD+XfinoQ0BWG93cp+jY= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:29:26 -0800 From: "Roy T. Fielding" Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce HTTP/3 editorial dependence on HTTP/2 (#3264) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd35386876a6_16d3fc5e14cd95c866e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: royfielding X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:29:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd35386876a6_16d3fc5e14cd95c866e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The HTTP/3 draft relies on the reader's familiarity with the HTTP/2 spec, bouncing between normative references to HTTP/2 and specification as a delta to some prior decision for HTTP/2. While that's understandable for initial development and for a section on gatewaying to h2, I don't think it is appropriate for a standards track document that will eventually (or at least likely) obsolete HTTP/2. I don't expect readers (outside of the WG members) to have implemented h2, even if the design is based on h2. I would like all of the necessary concepts, aside from what can be normatively referenced via http-core, to be fully defined within this spec, even if that means copy and paste from h2. (I would label this as editorial and -http) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3264 ----==_mimepart_5dd35386876a6_16d3fc5e14cd95c866e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The HTTP/3 draft relies on the reader's familiarity with the HTTP/2 spec, bouncing between normative references to HTTP/2 and specification as a delta to some prior decision for HTTP/2. While that's understandable for initial development and for a section on gatewaying to h2, I don't think it is appropriate for a standards track document that will eventually (or at least likely) obsolete HTTP/2.

I don't expect readers (outside of the WG members) to have implemented h2, even if the design is based on h2. I would like all of the necessary concepts, aside from what can be normatively referenced via http-core, to be fully defined within this spec, even if that means copy and paste from h2.

(I would label this as editorial and -http)

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I have thoughts... I suggest the currently definition wrt max_datagram_size raises new safety issues. I am not sure a minimum of 10 * max_datagram_size, where max datagram, is say 9KB or 16KB, is actually something that is safe. From what I recall, the MSS term in IW for TCP related to sub 1500B MSS, and the need to constrain, not safe to expand. I suggest we define this in terms of the base size of 1280B.

There is also an evil pathology in IPv4, where this can result in a router on path fragmenting larger packets to result in intense bursts of packets.

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#3243 - is related.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1171,27 +1171,34 @@ Note:
 ## Receiving Out-of-Order Protected Frames {#pre-hs-protected}
 
 Due to reordering and loss, protected packets might be received by an endpoint
-before the final TLS handshake messages are received.  A client will be unable
-to decrypt 1-RTT packets from the server, whereas a server will be able to
-decrypt 1-RTT packets from the client.
+before the final TLS handshake messages are received.  Each endpoint MUST NOT
+decrypt 1-RTT packets from its peer prior to completing the handshake.

I'd leave the old text in for emphasis, and also a minor edit: "A client will be unable to decrypt 1-RTT packets from the server, whereas a server will be able to decrypt 1-RTT packets from the client. Both endpoints MUST NOT decrypt 1-RTT packets from their peers prior to completing the handshake."

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1171,27 +1171,34 @@ Note:
 ## Receiving Out-of-Order Protected Frames {#pre-hs-protected}
 
 Due to reordering and loss, protected packets might be received by an endpoint
-before the final TLS handshake messages are received.  A client will be unable
-to decrypt 1-RTT packets from the server, whereas a server will be able to
-decrypt 1-RTT packets from the client.
+before the final TLS handshake messages are received.  Each endpoint MUST NOT
+decrypt 1-RTT packets from its peer prior to completing the handshake.

Meh. Both/Each, they're both sucky here.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson pushed 14 commits. 63c764b0ccab1aa5ad4eef8fc78fa6467f6edd5f [HTTP/3] [editorial] How many parts is the HTTP/3 specification is split into exactly? 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(#3220) 3710ed6f8599c1c9cdd3eb1e259760a0afc5f424 App or flow control limited (#3238) 8bae30acd2c4058dd7108eca972c90039c91d688 Fix Gorry's editorial comments (#3237) 9a5786a1ab4538d01e403ee3b42fa086878226f2 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 97c70d33e85c44b559b8dc1069c0f5a7d1635b1e Reference 3168 for ECN 6ed0fdab6286a3bbf3a74441c9a8defd76f9483a Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 65d42c7e0d4168421972e4b1631a47ee3ee0583b ECN editorial 2afe57df1e104e39a7487854b9c79f22498b5a17 Fix incorrect expression 37f2a1949b73d871f5801e9da9fc03c9d8337632 Set, not seed 68466780a9be9543e6720303648da735f635cb8b Jana's suggestion d8d51c6019bc1be35f96112529b874ee9a592a85 endpoints never requests a CID 4a23a94c76b1ff6af57bcda6c58accd088fad50f Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors 00bbd927b8e03887fd66e72f751886b4c75d6006 Keep context -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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  • 63c764b [HTTP/3] [editorial] How many parts is the HTTP/3 specification is split into exactly? (#3219)
  • 110fcb3 [HTTP/3] [editorial] Remove mention of redefining setting format. (#3220)
  • 3710ed6 App or flow control limited (#3238)
  • 8bae30a Fix Gorry's editorial comments (#3237)
  • 9a5786a Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 97c70d3 Reference 3168 for ECN
  • 6ed0fda Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 65d42c7 ECN editorial
  • 2afe57d Fix incorrect expression
  • 37f2a19 Set, not seed
  • 6846678 Jana's suggestion
  • d8d51c6 endpoints never requests a CID
  • 4a23a94 Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors
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@gorryfair the current formula specifies a max of 14720 bytes, so increasing the MTU does not increase the IW beyond 14720. This was based on the referenced RFC6928.

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----==_mimepart_5dd357495dbc9_18953fa1a46cd95c433b0-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 18:46:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F183F1200FB for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sAgUkZbSzDzu for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0840120232 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C1A1201D3 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574131564; bh=gcvakj1qVXc14jtFThr/1zywA/gZs3QIcvL+LKuR5o0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=Nj6eV0aHf7cmwToWA9h36qH3eH9mmuxOm36ESAIWqBDxVT4pot5e+0tEI26JWV+IB LLpCiPLZLPHEgu8mMwv5dUemFI0N4ZHR64eB+LGVc1kWuSPJL9pzcrheJg9I1Sw+FF ZRnMsQE5zuUMucF9LXa/cogE+u1/ucP+tYJze7v4= Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:04 -0800 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] b3defa: No reading of 1-RTT before the handshake is complete Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:46:10 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/really-really-dont-1rtt-early Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: b3defa9c1d9b8a97b445bcc5ca40cd7dfcc75321 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b3defa9c1d9b8a97b445bcc5ca40cd7dfcc75321 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-19 (Tue, 19 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- No reading of 1-RTT before the handshake is complete We really mean it. The effect of #3159 has been to shame some implementations into the right behaviour, but on reviewing this section, it really was unambiguous. This tweaks the text slightly and adds a cautionary note, but it is otherwise unchanged other than a few editorial tweaks. Closes #3159. Commit: e2ee0d4652ea2f3a405da6ba14d08416bc4f6b3d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e2ee0d4652ea2f3a405da6ba14d08416bc4f6b3d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-19 (Tue, 19 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Simplify Commit: 459ef0f8b646af38e381acab8f2dfb1769391df0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/459ef0f8b646af38e381acab8f2dfb1769391df0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-19 (Tue, 19 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Keep context Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/00bbd927b8e0...459ef0f8b646 From nobody Mon Nov 18 18:46:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED55120232 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s97xIgMk59gE for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395C61200FB for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:46:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574131580; bh=KMm1yZVCceJx2pEycEdVeSDyk2uWaelVrTb3tyw/+W0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=e4KNtSDTZP2QiL301Q7fGfwAxuK3dVj3daSd774JL/GaeZBDGjMs/xEnsAs2skzT2 YltZXkK2c9CGoAu7V6kUzxBoJ4ve+PMsw1SpJ3QE/yGzkP3oC/AhbUHeOSqO75CLeM 6nxFL4SslcQNnqC6IjMiSBKP3Y09FwwAxUIFd5lY= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] unrecoverable loss pattern leads to deadlock (#2863) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd3577c5b077_19873fa9e34cd96c307b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:46:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd3577c5b077_19873fa9e34cd96c307b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in Singapore; CfC #3145. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 18 18:47:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86695120BCF for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:47:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFg5KL9ZO-qb for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45D22120BFE for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:47:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:47:44 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574131664; bh=Dj++kuMPEYky5+d2+uZfaHYTPzu32A7kFeFKUc38gec=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lmS7M4z/WIYYknrIv3kF/s4SeVCkZQmHpmvQID5ktlhU5O85GnoafZYX8uQOySVbo WKSCuBrZwZoPtd0Z63O/asgGMiYvHm+mSMMgJuxsnUis0TKwRthrgMwTUi3goJKVtj x+37aTOIIymenBFYBkACrGuqwP9+6IDsva4fsz68= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce HTTP/3 editorial dependence on HTTP/2 (#3264) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd357d084f9d_1d083f9b490cd96494518"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:47:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd357d084f9d_1d083f9b490cd96494518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that readers should not be required to read the HTTP/2 spec. We've taken the same approach with recovery where the intent is to be self-contained, but add informative references to TCP RFCs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3264#issuecomment-555307537 ----==_mimepart_5dd357d084f9d_1d083f9b490cd96494518 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that readers should not be required to read the HTTP/2 spec. We've taken the same approach with recovery where the intent is to be self-contained, but add informative references to TCP RFCs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

I don't think this shhould be MUST. For every other such action, the paradigm is "the sender MUST NOT do this silly stuff, the responder MAY close with connection error"

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Fielding" Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add capability for sending HTTP metadata (trailer fields) in mid-stream (#3265) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd359eb483a9_32163fd642acd96c94924"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: royfielding X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:56:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd359eb483a9_32163fd642acd96c94924 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a very long time (since early 1995) there have been various attempts to send metadata in parallel with the request or response bodies. The use cases have ranged from group chat to chained digital signatures to performance metrics to long download checkpoints to a heck of a lot of other things that I pretend to no longer remember for sanity purposes. Fixing that in HTTP/1.1 was only possible within chunked extensions. For a variety of reasons that had nothing to do with the use cases, chunked extensions didn't work well over intermediaries and the chicken never hatched. Nevertheless, they did work over HTTP when the applications had control over both sides of a connection. I vaguely recall such metadata being present in HTTPng as well. For some bizarre reason, I thought that sending metadata in midstream was present in h2 and all was fine and good for keeping it through in QUIC. I mean, for crying out loud, we don't have any of the limitations here that we had to deal with in HTTP/1.1. That's why I didn't raise this issue earlier. Apparently, I was wrong. I would like for HTTP/3 to have a mechanism for communicating metadata (like trailers) in mid-stream, both for requests (e.g., priority) and responses (e.g., chained sigs). I believe that this can be done with an additional frame type that carries trailer data, just like HEADERS, but that doesn't imply the end of DATA. However, I don't really have an opinion on what is the right way to do this in HTTP/3, only that it is worthwhile and necessary to do before a last call. I do not believe, from extensive experience, that this feature can be added later. I'd appreciate if people more familiar with QUIC implementation would choose the best specific syntax. It is not a semantics change for HTTP because the fields are just optional trailers that arrive early. A recipient that is not prepared to handle these fields, for whatever reason, can discard them in the same way as trailers. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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For a very long time (since early 1995) there have been various attempts to send metadata in parallel with the request or response bodies. The use cases have ranged from group chat to chained digital signatures to performance metrics to long download checkpoints to a heck of a lot of other things that I pretend to no longer remember for sanity purposes.

Fixing that in HTTP/1.1 was only possible within chunked extensions. For a variety of reasons that had nothing to do with the use cases, chunked extensions didn't work well over intermediaries and the chicken never hatched. Nevertheless, they did work over HTTP when the applications had control over both sides of a connection. I vaguely recall such metadata being present in HTTPng as well.

For some bizarre reason, I thought that sending metadata in midstream was present in h2 and all was fine and good for keeping it through in QUIC. I mean, for crying out loud, we don't have any of the limitations here that we had to deal with in HTTP/1.1. That's why I didn't raise this issue earlier. Apparently, I was wrong.

I would like for HTTP/3 to have a mechanism for communicating metadata (like trailers) in mid-stream, both for requests (e.g., priority) and responses (e.g., chained sigs).

I believe that this can be done with an additional frame type that carries trailer data, just like HEADERS, but that doesn't imply the end of DATA. However, I don't really have an opinion on what is the right way to do this in HTTP/3, only that it is worthwhile and necessary to do before a last call. I do not believe, from extensive experience, that this feature can be added later. I'd appreciate if people more familiar with QUIC implementation would choose the best specific syntax.

It is not a semantics change for HTTP because the fields are just optional trailers that arrive early. A recipient that is not prepared to handle these fields, for whatever reason, can discard them in the same way as trailers.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

@huitema That's not correct:

Endpoints MUST NOT exceed the limit set by their peer. An endpoint that receives a frame with a stream ID exceeding the limit it has sent MUST treat this as a connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR

and

An endpoint MUST terminate a connection with a FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR error if it receives more data than the maximum data value that it has sent

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Bah - the "and" in the ID text confused me, this actually is Min(10 * max_datagram_size, max(2 * max_datagram_size, 14720)). So - I was wrong on my comment, sorry.

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Thank you for the PR Martin.

Just for my understanding: the requirement to pad client initials from the second flight onward (i.e., after receiving server packets, ACKing server initials) is purely for convenience. It is not necessary for PMTU or anti-amplification-allowance. As such, the limit should also not be enforced at intermediaries wholesale?

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I think this should be unparked before last call.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -210,6 +210,11 @@ Server:
 
 : The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections.
 
+Address:
+
+: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, UDP
+  protocol, and UDP port number that represents one end of a network path.

I was talking about the protocol field in the IP header. How would you suggest we make that clear?

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I think the ways to change that is implement a maximum burst size or use pacing. The bursts do not appear a CC function to me. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3094#issuecomment-555322521 ----==_mimepart_5dd368dc79b6f_1e6c3f86d5acd9607568a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with the comment that burst from ACK compression or Stretch-ACKs result in bursts. I think the ways to change that is implement a maximum burst size or use pacing. The bursts do not appear a CC function to me.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in
-response to the first Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP
-datagram is smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in
-response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the offending packet was
-processed as valid.
+response to an Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP datagram is
+smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in response, or

I'm more worried about this as an attack vector. Now that we support multiple initial packets for the client initial, there is more of a windows for an attacker to race a bad initial packet. Sending a 1 byte initial packet to kill your connection would be pretty easy; especially since the size validation check is going to happen pre-decryption, so the attacker doesn't even need to craft a well-formed packet.

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Discussed in Singapore. The discussion there came to the conclusion that the best path forward was to not consider this in-scope for QUICv1, but to encourage the proponents to rework their draft as an extension proposal.

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----==_mimepart_5dd38547c7636_59d93fd0454cd95c331dd-- From nobody Mon Nov 18 22:39:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3862F12087F for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 22:39:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UVQG3lYPQuBJ for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 22:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DEAD120887 for ; 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An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and unused connection IDs. Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the -active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide -more connection IDs than the peer's limit. - -An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet with a -previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unless providing -the new connection ID would exceed the peer's limit. An endpoint MAY limit the +active_connection_id_limit transport parameter. An endpoint MUST NOT provide +more connection IDs than the peer's limit. An endpoint that receives more +connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the +connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR. + +An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when the peer retires a connection +ID. If an endpoint provided fewer connection IDs than the peer's +active_connection_id_limit, it MAY supply a new connection ID when it receives +a packet with a previously unused connection ID. An endpoint MAY limit the This sentence goes back to @kazuho's issue https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2436. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3201#discussion_r347768589 ----==_mimepart_5dd39cc38e434_20b23f8377acd96c16593a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,12 +999,15 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
-
-An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when it receives a packet with a
-previously unused connection ID or when the peer retires one, unless providing
-the new connection ID would exceed the peer's limit.  An endpoint MAY limit the
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.
+
+An endpoint SHOULD supply a new connection ID when the peer retires a connection
+ID. If an endpoint provided fewer connection IDs than the peer's
+active_connection_id_limit, it MAY supply a new connection ID when it receives
+a packet with a previously unused connection ID.  An endpoint MAY limit the

This sentence goes back to @kazuho's issue #2436.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4590,8 +4595,14 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 active_connection_id_limit (0x000e):
 
 : The maximum number of connection IDs from the peer that an endpoint is willing
-  to store. This value includes only connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID
-  frames. If this parameter is absent, a default of 0 is assumed.
+  to store. This value includes connection IDs sent in NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames,
+  the connection ID used during the handshake as well as the connection ID
+  provided in the preferred_address transport parameter.

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I know this has been discussed before - but reading the text as it is I wonder:

the text mixes three different terms, seeming arbitrarily: decryption of 1-RTT, processing of 1-RTT, and reading 1-RTT packets, and not using the 1-RTT keys at all.

I can see how packets MUST not be processed ahead of time, but I don't see why the keys cannot be used to qualify the packets. In fact the text says you can store 1-RTT packets until ready, but how do you know they are indeed 1-RTT packets if you cannot use the keys in some form?

There is a related concern about timing attacks if you do not both decrypt and verify but if that is not topic here, and if it is a concern it should probably be mentioned or referenced.

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----==_mimepart_5dd3bd1051468_41c53fdb6f8cd964120414-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 02:02:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E02F12086A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:02:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VKADWRB5Ynuj for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA2B120857 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA476E14B4 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:02:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574157724; bh=ycLEAj4QjnXbuGokD1r29qZmvEQjDMafMGu43fgdT6E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aDIfVmGxY21bylZYu4bddIqqFiwaIKtmagyvcxr6Dvi7BOiHTZes3sY2PmLtRYMA6 mttHHhCJGHveFQHE7h0JIHtiK7+qTVaFWG/v55huMvgv7EPw/UTPkDxtisgWEqU+L6 sLmbyRQqlTm9RvvCiqs/r9VnPJ8FeCSynVRkhU9Y= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:02:04 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify padding of INITIAL packets (#3255) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd3bd9cddfdf_2d13fba248cd96c2828d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:02:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd3bd9cddfdf_2d13fba248cd96c2828d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the most part, yes, the second flight is generally sent with some evidence that the return address is live, however we can't guarantee that the second flight carries sufficient entropy. For instance, HelloRetryRequest causes a second flight that still requires anti-amplification. Initial packets with acknowledgments in the second flight might still require padding in the case that the client isn't able to send Handshake packets (which can happen when you have a partial server flight). In the end, this is just simpler. I would be sad if intermediaries were to "enforce" MUSTs from QUIC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3255#issuecomment-555428354 ----==_mimepart_5dd3bd9cddfdf_2d13fba248cd96c2828d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For the most part, yes, the second flight is generally sent with some evidence that the return address is live, however we can't guarantee that the second flight carries sufficient entropy.

For instance, HelloRetryRequest causes a second flight that still requires anti-amplification.

Initial packets with acknowledgments in the second flight might still require padding in the case that the client isn't able to send Handshake packets (which can happen when you have a partial server flight).

In the end, this is just simpler. I would be sad if intermediaries were to "enforce" MUSTs from QUIC.

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----==_mimepart_5dd3bd9cddfdf_2d13fba248cd96c2828d8-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 02:31:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228AF1208C3 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:31:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FmAn2LnIuGee for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 365051208B1 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784426A0443 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574159479; bh=91dr/NhIpit6aWeSoGwPjCfTQcv7Pf9E0woW0o8Qr4I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vQ+7S5+zFmzWGRrw4rS/3ByACxF2tHDtEO9YcklP8zs+xbsYqO2rAj9c4O9Xi0t+M NeAl9EyvFUW5BX5lP/RgVKUWIpjTE58Lcq45RZfkHmHUyOLfuQ966C93gqwJhnWGZ7 oRC4f49cp1MOkW+4eNGQ00ffwM3Ha/RZpwW2XDZc= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 02:31:19 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTTVar is not really a variance (#3223) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd3c47768c97_5963f8dd78cd968145682"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:31:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd3c47768c97_5963f8dd78cd968145682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. Be consistent with "variation", or say that mean deviation is the same as variation. Otherwise, it's just confusing to someone who doesn't know that the two terms mean the same thing. > @@ -251,8 +251,8 @@ RTT samples and peer-reported host delays (see Section 13.2 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) to generate a statistical description of the connection's RTT. An endpoint computes the following three values: the minimum value observed over the lifetime of the connection (min_rtt), an -exponentially-weighted moving average (smoothed_rtt), and the variance in the -observed RTT samples (rttvar). +exponentially-weighted moving average (smoothed_rtt), and the mean deviation ```suggestion exponentially-weighted moving average (smoothed_rtt), and the variation ``` > @@ -307,7 +307,8 @@ erroneously-reported delays by the peer. ## Estimating smoothed_rtt and rttvar {#smoothed-rtt} smoothed_rtt is an exponentially-weighted moving average of an endpoint's RTT -samples, and rttvar is the endpoint's estimated variance in the RTT samples. +samples, and rttvar is the endpoint's RTT mean deviation in the RTT samples, ```suggestion samples, and rttvar is the variation in the RTT samples, ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3223#pullrequestreview-318930113 ----==_mimepart_5dd3c47768c97_5963f8dd78cd968145682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1031,9 +1031,8 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketAcked(acked_packet.packet_number, pn_space)
 
   DetectLostPackets(pn_space)

Detection of a lost packet at a minimum signals that one packet left the network. This is the logic by which TCP sends a packet immediately on loss detection. It allows a sender to recover from a single packet loss immediately. Do you think we should deviate from what TCP does here?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1031,9 +1031,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketAcked(acked_packet.packet_number, pn_space)
 
   DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
-
+  // Immediately attempt to send, but never more than the
+  // initial window in a single burst.
+  SendUpToIWPacketsAsCongestionControllerAllows()

What's the rationale for sending a burst here? And if the congestion controller allows more, why limit to IW?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1031,9 +1031,10 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketAcked(acked_packet.packet_number, pn_space)
 
   DetectLostPackets(pn_space)
-
+  // Immediately attempt to send, but never more than the
+  // initial window in a single burst.
+  SendUpToIWPacketsAsCongestionControllerAllows()

The intent is is not to send a burst, but rather to limit any sending to the IW, as specified in the normative text:

"Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection, not including UDP or IP overhead."

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1031,9 +1031,8 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     OnPacketAcked(acked_packet.packet_number, pn_space)
 
   DetectLostPackets(pn_space)

I want to keep when to send(congestion control) and loss detection separate. Stating that you always send one packet in this pseudocode commingles the two.

Also, we have no normative text that indicates sending a packet after receiving an ACK is the right thing to do here, so putting it in the pseudocode would make the pseudocode out of sync with the text. If you think we should allow sending a packet because TCP does, then the right thing to do is file an issue and then write a PR that updates the text and the pseudocode.

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In both sentences, min_rtt and smoothed_rtt are described in technically accurate terms, so I think it makes sense to describe rttvar as a mean deviation, because that's the most technically accurate term. I also understand the need for consistency, so if you have suggestions on how to improve that without removing the technical description, it'd be appreciated.

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Fixes #2744

To prevent a connection from going idle while it has application data to send, this PR recommends periodically sending the blocked frame as a keep alive.

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  • Prevent Idle Timeout while Blocked

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In thinking about this a bit more, I wonder if 8.1 says everything we want it to say:

Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets have UDP payloads of at least 1200 bytes, adding padding to packets in the datagram as necessary.

What about INITIAL packets which contain only a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame? Should those be padded? It doesn't seem terribly necessary to do this...

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For the client, I think requiring padding even a CONNECTION_CLOSE is the right thing to do, since it simplifies processing on the server side. On the server, I definitely do not want to require padding Initials that only contain CONNECTION_CLOSE.

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Hmm, this is a design change.

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Use the exact names of the registries.

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  • TLS: fix references to registries

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits.
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
 and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
 DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
-control limits.  These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common
-cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes.
-
-A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames
-for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost.
-Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data
-limit is increased.
+control limits.  If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the
+connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent.
+To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to
+periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame.  One method is
+to immediately resend the frame on acknowledgment of the previous one if the

I tend to think this might be overly aggressive? If 10 streams are blocked, there's no reason to send 10 frames an RTT, is there?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -know what information can be retried.
+Each endpoint advertises a different max_idle_timeout, but the effective value
+is determined by taking the minimum of the two advertised values. By announcing
+a max_idle_timeout, endpoints commit to initiating an immediate close
+({{immediate-close}}) if it abandons a connection prior to the effective value.
+
+An endpoint restarts any timer it maintains when a packet from its peer is
+received and processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending
+a packet containing frames other than ACK or PADDING (an ack-eliciting packet;
+see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been
+sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending packets ensures
+that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new activity.
+
+An endpoint that sends packets near the end of the idle timeout period
+risks having those packets discarded if its peer enters the draining state
+before the packets arrive.  If a peer could time out within an Probe Timeout

I'm not introducing this text, it just moved, hence the different PR, which is editorial.

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----==_mimepart_5dd49eae91bbc_6983fbd4facd96499386-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 18:07:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A67812012C for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:07:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YjOi_WW-troT for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F0F71200E5 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5978C0E32 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:07:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574215629; bh=uPO9Hw6ydGRCOMS8vNd/dHa4BXpE3Q+kZG7uEe8NQSU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=h5hCZyjoIwAR4dhCRj8eAfnyR8cN5miZYLAyX5GsPiQqQYMriLHCjwjG8s0JgcnJh eHCFzWJUN6FzXiZ6oU3JSV5ttU0CtNUAedUaKf1cteR+z+t1uJhOCN7ZVIUqFQYpUj wvk7PbGecdmihBQydDEDtz4oSANNK9dwqLa3eM7U= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:07:09 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change idle_timeout to max_idle_timeout (#3099) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd49fcd6c2f3_5b313fc07c4cd96c119446"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 02:07:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd49fcd6c2f3_5b313fc07c4cd96c119446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is failing due to a QPACK error, but I believe the PR is done. As noted above, I opened #3184 for the many comments about the existing text. I can take a stab at this, but I'd like to do that separately from this design change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3099#issuecomment-555802002 ----==_mimepart_5dd49fcd6c2f3_5b313fc07c4cd96c119446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is failing due to a QPACK error, but I believe the PR is done.

As noted above, I opened #3184 for the many comments about the existing text. I can take a stab at this, but I'd like to do that separately from this design change.

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----==_mimepart_5dd49fcd6c2f3_5b313fc07c4cd96c119446-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 18:10:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8135012002F for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08QQsh6Q-l6Z for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D03FA120025 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:10:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:10:04 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574215805; bh=UVW5nAnysE8zCYnInl9A+3cfvm1Lb8GlnTfN1HWi+QI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fr3MJ7OXc1ecxUBkR7GqyNIS7SPlTtFcbX8zg+/Z8FJWI+WapWmmyHLkjE4iis5it kH/DaahZb26awUi5Buf3id/ZxJy0TSmxYiqq9z71GcJM9/GOjPW2VUgz/zRXtMXHdn hSmPtIWMThu0Mzq+xeB3HvV33P1DVyrkYhKIYIoQ= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Prevent Idle Timeout while Blocked (#3266) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4a07ced012_3d993fa27facd9681353e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 02:10:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4a07ced012_3d993fa27facd9681353e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the +connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent. +To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to +periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame. One method is +to immediately resend the frame on acknowledgment of the previous one if the I'm not trying to make any requirements on how many frames and how often you must send them. The only SHOULD here is to periodically (less than idle timeout) send some blocked frames. I'd leave it up to implementations to decide exactly what to do here. How should the text change (if at all) to make that more clear? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3266#discussion_r348261429 ----==_mimepart_5dd4a07ced012_3d993fa27facd9681353e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits.
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
 and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
 DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
-control limits.  These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common
-cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes.
-
-A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames
-for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost.
-Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data
-limit is increased.
+control limits.  If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the
+connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent.
+To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to
+periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame.  One method is
+to immediately resend the frame on acknowledgment of the previous one if the

I'm not trying to make any requirements on how many frames and how often you must send them. The only SHOULD here is to periodically (less than idle timeout) send some blocked frames. I'd leave it up to implementations to decide exactly what to do here. How should the text change (if at all) to make that more clear?

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An issue to correspond to PR #3266

@mt and I believe this is likely a design issue.

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Oops, this was unnecessary. Sorry for the churn.

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Closed #3268.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits.
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
 and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
 DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
-control limits.  These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common
-cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes.
-
-A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames
-for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost.
-Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data
-limit is increased.
+control limits.  If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the
+connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent.
+To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to
+periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame.  One method is
+to immediately resend the frame on acknowledgment of the previous one if the

How about "One method is to resend a DATA_BLOCKED or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame when there are no ack-eliciting packets in flight."

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So we have little diagrams for send and receive stream states. Any chance this section could include a state diagram and transitions for the overall connection state?

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I agree with that principle, but I've been working on that for a while, but I think we're already mostly there. There are normative references to specific sections of HTTP/2 where relevant; I've attempted not to have anything that assumes you already know HTTP/2 in general. The informative comparisons to HTTP/2 have largely (if not entirely) been moved to an appendix.

If you have specific places where you think I haven't achieved that, please point them out.

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----==_mimepart_5dd4a9e2edcfa_351d3fc3f66cd960792f8-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 18:56:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C27120B3B for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:55:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fM03az4TE6lk for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3B2B120AEE for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:55:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:55:54 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574218554; bh=tdQQFxY1etCo4SHIbAOsl6jZkKkTTIRrcyEvEsjQkOs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fkmJGgnJLj2ZN1aZ5PltTW4gf/pPV8N8SclJSKFAkKkPy4zNp8AvumnNuFOBlFDtI v4w+Ks+L+UulsbSQ6/c1RSgYlCGQs5zrswAOssuCkBTQhN6TE7PoVa4umh8zrC3Aa1 tVLFtwwq04i3SN+uiFoVeYVgpUUOHu3I7eGc7z00= From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add retry integrity tag (#3120) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4ab3a261e3_79683fb9558cd964165b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 02:56:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4ab3a261e3_79683fb9558cd964165b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To recap my proposal from this morning. 1. We should have a separate fixed key derived by HKDF-ing the salt. This is just good key separation practice and we can publish the fixed value in the spec if we want. I think there was consensus on this and I can send text for this. @DavidSchinazi ? 2. We should encrypt the token using that fixed key and use the top min(12,dcid_len) bytes of the DCID. This will provide some obfuscation at the cost of just the AES operation but not the KDF. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3120#issuecomment-555813446 ----==_mimepart_5dd4ab3a261e3_79683fb9558cd964165b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To recap my proposal from this morning.

  1. We should have a separate fixed key derived by HKDF-ing the salt. This is just good key separation practice and we can publish the fixed value in the spec if we want. I think there was consensus on this and I can send text for this. @DavidSchinazi ?

  2. We should encrypt the token using that fixed key and use the top min(12,dcid_len) bytes of the DCID. This will provide some obfuscation at the cost of just the AES operation but not the KDF.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in
-response to the first Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP
-datagram is smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in
-response, or otherwise behave as if any part of the offending packet was
-processed as valid.
+response to an Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP datagram is
+smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in response, or

Ahh, I see what you mean. Opening an issue.

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The draft requires that if an Initial packet is not padded, the server sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE. I think that the goal was to have the server drop those packets and optionally send a signal. But that only applies if the server hasn't established state. We should reword that.

@nibanks says:

I'm more worried about this as an attack vector. Now that we support multiple initial packets for the client initial, there is more of a windows for an attacker to race a bad initial packet. Sending a 1 byte initial packet to kill your connection would be pretty easy; especially since the size validation check is going to happen pre-decryption, so the attacker doesn't even need to craft a well-formed packet.

Originally posted by @nibanks in #3262

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Note that our principles here mean that we aren't obligated to defend against this style of attack, but rewording here is probably a good idea.

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I agree that we've decided not to try to protect against attacks in the first flight, but this seems open up an extremely trivial attack vector that we can easily shutdown. I believe we should prevent it.

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----==_mimepart_5dd4ad085fca0_679d3fc2ef2cd96c91785-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 19:04:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CDC12023E for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:04:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pjriw6v1qTzZ for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61D8E1201EF for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA3FC60241 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:04:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574219046; bh=4O4/5TLvGy/2Tb+mCT4qw5RmmRRKVIXbBDZf4OV3a1Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BKaHgYECrqUO8gycYcLCQunc9xKnWkcGpsHkb22IuGDa0y4gZtNAPFvcBRLT2Ml3y Xy25tGGeHANyISReGKw6FNRZfr0+FTdHRu1NzrMTAqdj34WmNhopzGgGNwJVAWp6oc W15Y8NuuD1/KQLgWg/F3aGUuGzhcMjKj06O9rbZY= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:04:06 -0800 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make RFC 6928 normative (#3245) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4ad26abe62_6223fdfad6cd960126254"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:04:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4ad26abe62_6223fdfad6cd960126254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please don't do that. 6928 i experimental for a number of reasons, that's not an appropriate reference. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3245#issuecomment-555815473 ----==_mimepart_5dd4ad26abe62_6223fdfad6cd960126254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Please don't do that. 6928 i experimental for a number of reasons, that's not an appropriate reference.

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The draft requires that if an Initial packet is not padded, the server sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE.

Why would a server want to send a CONNECTION_CLOSE in the first place? I think dropping the packet is a perfectly valid thing to do, and in fact is preferable at such an early state in the connection.

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Does #3170 resolve this?

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@DavidSchinazi pushed 1 commit.

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I'm siding with not making this or any other TCP RFCs normative, particularly since this is an experimental RFC.

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----==_mimepart_5dd4af9d6b3eb_6f913fce750cd9649351c-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 19:17:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB11E1201E0 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:17:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LK0JlGwjBhBc for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F1512002E for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9036E1272 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:17:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574219831; bh=WV9DgmnyFYoeHLzw7JHY+ZGRceOJ3LlucQ44Nd5blaw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HqO8igUOd4T3gm74YfVWarnjWZetszfwcljlNrISfx910/sxgqE7vbyVbAnHZ0mrS mOyHbKSk53TOKYMicaV7XeeDu+Ehn2mKAO0xqOMZ3jwaqigL2vN3GUxhp0RR8pvdMw nSz9mWWv9bfTZxMjVlWpt1tVaJlTMFi1k55Lz0LI= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:17:11 -0800 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add retry integrity tag (#3120) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4b0379fa22_4c033f87adecd9603247d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:17:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b0379fa22_4c033f87adecd9603247d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've made this a separate random key to avoid the HKDF. @ekr I hope this addresses point (1). Regarding point (2) I don't care either way but if we were to use a connection ID as the nonce I would use the original destination connection ID since that's not sent over the wire but required to be known by endpoints. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3120#issuecomment-555818194 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b0379fa22_4c033f87adecd9603247d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I've made this a separate random key to avoid the HKDF. @ekr I hope this addresses point (1).

Regarding point (2) I don't care either way but if we were to use a connection ID as the nonce I would use the original destination connection ID since that's not sent over the wire but required to be known by endpoints.

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----==_mimepart_5dd4b0379fa22_4c033f87adecd9603247d-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 19:23:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A39120A2C for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hTiMW7P3w1dX for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590D0120A9A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AE08C0355 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:23:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574220209; bh=U2LZrEGAm1R3MUtq0mhaDK9XD/IkteSQViQ8k8suA3I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=flmbA7SLYT46lohaMIVot/pkcbFm2YZtvDVVl+r1xq0jOCraMJqrfNyxkbD5VxJbF ETXaumNpCSGicU1/KZW2IT3gEtaPmx4N5k4RhDlTDvY9Tc4sSRsKktl5oZkgH9fnEa r8u4BPIhdsHn74Fi3baHlv2+4Ril23/IXHvTU5Po= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:23:29 -0800 From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make RFC 6928 normative (#3245) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4b1b198a0d_390d3f93720cd95c691f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:23:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b1b198a0d_390d3f93720cd95c691f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My concern is exactly that ... and I'll say why I think this needs thought: RFC6828 reflects the consensus on using a larger IW, what is safe and how to use. Use of a larger initial window impacts all transports - this RFC was the first (and currently only) decision to allow more in the initial handshake period, even though that was only EXP - I did not see data for QUIC analysed, so I think QUIC has followed/joined that experiment, but is not itself an EXP. If the IETF updates the decisions in RFC6298 because of safety concerns I think this impacts all protocols. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3245#issuecomment-555819489 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b1b198a0d_390d3f93720cd95c691f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My concern is exactly that ... and I'll say why I think this needs thought:

RFC6828 reflects the consensus on using a larger IW, what is safe and how to use. Use of a larger initial window impacts all transports - this RFC was the first (and currently only) decision to allow more in the initial handshake period, even though that was only EXP - I did not see data for QUIC analysed, so I think QUIC has followed/joined that experiment, but is not itself an EXP.

If the IETF updates the decisions in RFC6298 because of safety concerns I think this impacts all protocols.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5dd4b353313ad_67d23fde196cd96445968-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 19:53:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD18E120A83 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:53:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iP99_ByNLU2A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1093120935 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF8E2C0B95 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:53:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574222017; bh=bP5ksUUZFhHMdGG0j1quDb36/FEdzWnJGb/jQjEraVA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n5fjpQXYIcA3rfuEb83w5IyrwQ1IXrStmsAzxDlCW1clv9ltaHsqUBx1hzslGshq9 9aRWtrcq8083iblcC2v4Gvo5VvBZ6DTxrtPmu6cmPM4S2TiB6Iva5+o1CpdJQE+wAX 43p5qFBXsk6Y0LXLXq+/aR3w4/O/e2kOUMgTKTC8= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:53:37 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make RFC 6928 normative (#3245) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4b8c1cc749_70e3fe767ecd9641592df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:53:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b8c1cc749_70e3fe767ecd9641592df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A down reference to an experimental RFC is not a problem. If you believe that we shouldn't be using recommendations from an experimental RFC, we should be doing IW 4. That said, after hearing the comments at the mic today, I am now of the opinion that we don't need a *normative* reference to 6928. Having a reference to it for rationale is important, but it doesn't need to be normative. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3245#issuecomment-555825809 ----==_mimepart_5dd4b8c1cc749_70e3fe767ecd9641592df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

A down reference to an experimental RFC is not a problem. If you believe that we shouldn't be using recommendations from an experimental RFC, we should be doing IW 4.

That said, after hearing the comments at the mic today, I am now of the opinion that we don't need a normative reference to 6928. Having a reference to it for rationale is important, but it doesn't need to be normative.

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Gorry: When the IETF updates decisions in 6928, it seems to me that it will affect the rationale in QUIC, whether this reference is normative or not.

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:-). Agree.

So, another way to this could be to look again at the text ("Taken from" my not be enough), and be sure the text says the correct thing.

Gorry

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----==_mimepart_5dd4d400c679b_355d3f8f4becd960300090-- From nobody Tue Nov 19 22:05:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DCC1202DD for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:05:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uCTqPAAP7E26 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C3AC120274 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541F8660E41 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574229938; bh=C3Jkd+ATnAEFg1T7DS8clrN9wLEzAqSO0uONoShQtPo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=s6aj7fIZLlxBk3I8GWDsSbbF4Fi/f+i3fkOUPXM6xyx59iZZdGrqdfIxR9EMFJktH XmOr8u6cbPVj6MRRgl0MfeS29BTvkuzLd+z/z/J10Yn6wG6ef48X/uqfaFXkif8JO4 oQn7CCaZvcVdKe6SofAYDEvIwoC7hhFuOhi83ZFM= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:05:38 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recovery editorial update (#3234) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd4d7b245bb2_76e93f932c8cd968239519"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 06:05:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd4d7b245bb2_76e93f932c8cd968239519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -359,8 +354,9 @@ rttvar = 3/4 * rttvar + 1/4 * rttvar_sample # Loss Detection {#loss-detection} -QUIC senders use both ack information and timeouts to detect lost packets, and -this section provides a description of these algorithms. +QUIC senders use acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and a probe +time out {{pto}} to ensure it receives acknowledgements. This section ```suggestion timeouts {{pto}} to ensure it receives acknowledgements. This section ``` > @@ -359,8 +354,9 @@ rttvar = 3/4 * rttvar + 1/4 * rttvar_sample # Loss Detection {#loss-detection} -QUIC senders use both ack information and timeouts to detect lost packets, and -this section provides a description of these algorithms. +QUIC senders use acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and a probe ```suggestion A QUIC sender uses acknowledgements to detect lost packets, and probe ``` > @@ -549,9 +544,7 @@ expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible. When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent unacknowledged -data, it MUST be sent. Data that was previously sent with Initial encryption -MUST be sent before Handshake data and data previously sent at Handshake -encryption MUST be sent before any ApplicationData data. Why are you removing this text? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3234#pullrequestreview-319520311 ----==_mimepart_5dd4d7b245bb2_76e93f932c8cd968239519 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Yeah, it should be super uncommon for a client to send a CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial, and I don't think the cost of padding it is terribly high in that uncommon case. I think keeping it simple is probably best here.

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:-) Agree.

Since the WG chooses to keep the ref as Informative, could we choose clearer words rather than "Taken from"? .... Initial suggestion to start with:
"This follows the analysis and recommendations in [RC6928], increasing the byte limit to account for the smaller 8 byte overhead of UDP compared to the overhead for TCP".

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -549,9 +544,7 @@ expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet
 number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible.
 
 When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent unacknowledged
-data, it MUST be sent.  Data that was previously sent with Initial encryption
-MUST be sent before Handshake data and data previously sent at Handshake
-encryption MUST be sent before any ApplicationData data.

This should have been removed in #3066, but was missed.

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The far most likely case of a server receiving a CONNECTION_CLOSE is a middlebox trying to disrupt the handshake (i.e. RST injection). I do not think we should help them by relaxing the full-size padding requirement.

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The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but not the UDP or IP header. -Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP packet. -Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet MUST be -sent in a single IP packet. - -The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be expanded -to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet and/or by -coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP datagram -of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum -Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification attacks -caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see +The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUST be I would suggest making this active. "A client MUST expand the payload of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING ..." > @@ -3410,27 +3410,22 @@ later time in the connection. The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but not the UDP or IP header. -Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP packet. -Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet MUST be -sent in a single IP packet. - -The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be expanded -to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet and/or by -coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP datagram -of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum -Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification attacks -caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see +The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUST be +expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet +and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP +datagram of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable ```suggestion datagram of this size ensures that the network path from the client to the server supports a reasonable ``` > @@ -3410,27 +3410,22 @@ later time in the connection. The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but not the UDP or IP header. -Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP packet. -Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet MUST be -sent in a single IP packet. - -The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be expanded -to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet and/or by -coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP datagram -of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum -Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification attacks -caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see +The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUST be +expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet +and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). 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some editorializing

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -3410,27 +3410,22 @@ later time in the =
connection.=0D
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but=
 not the=0D
 UDP or IP header.=0D
 =0D
-Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP pa=
cket.=0D
-Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet =
MUST be=0D
-sent in a single IP packet.=0D
-=0D
-The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be =
expanded=0D
-to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet a=
nd/or by=0D
-coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP d=
atagram=0D
-of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum=
=0D
-Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification=
 attacks=0D
-caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see=0D
+The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUS=
T be=0D
=0D

I would suggest making this active. "A client MUST expand the payload = of all UDP datagrams carrying Initial packets to at least 1200 bytes, by = adding PADDING ..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -3410,27 +3410,22 @@ later time in the =
connection.=0D
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but=
 not the=0D
 UDP or IP header.=0D
 =0D
-Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP pa=
cket.=0D
-Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet =
MUST be=0D
-sent in a single IP packet.=0D
-=0D
-The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be =
expanded=0D
-to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet a=
nd/or by=0D
-coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP d=
atagram=0D
-of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum=
=0D
-Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification=
 attacks=0D
-caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see=0D
+The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUS=
T be=0D
+expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial=
 packet=0D
+and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sendi=
ng a UDP=0D
+datagram of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonabl=
e=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-datagram of this size ensures that the networ=
k path supports a reasonable=0D
+datagram of this size ensures that the network path from the client to t=
he server supports a reasonable=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> @@ -3410,27 +3410,22 @@ later time in the =
connection.=0D
 The QUIC packet size includes the QUIC header and protected payload, but=
 not the=0D
 UDP or IP header.=0D
 =0D
-Clients MUST ensure they send the first Initial packet in a single IP pa=
cket.=0D
-Similarly, the first Initial packet sent after receiving a Retry packet =
MUST be=0D
-sent in a single IP packet.=0D
-=0D
-The payload of a UDP datagram carrying the first Initial packet MUST be =
expanded=0D
-to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial packet a=
nd/or by=0D
-coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sending a UDP d=
atagram=0D
-of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonable Maximum=
=0D
-Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of amplification=
 attacks=0D
-caused by server responses toward an unverified client address; see=0D
+The payload of a UDP datagram carrying Initial packets from a client MUS=
T be=0D
+expanded to at least 1200 bytes, by adding PADDING frames to the Initial=
 packet=0D
+and/or by coalescing the Initial packet (see {{packet-coalesce}}). Sendi=
ng a UDP=0D
+datagram of this size ensures that the network path supports a reasonabl=
e=0D
+Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps reduce the amplitude of ampli=
fication=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU), and helps re=
duce the amplitude of amplification=0D
+Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU). It also helps reduce the amplitude of a=
mplification=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
>  {{address-validation}}.=0D
 =0D
-The datagram containing the first Initial packet from a client MAY excee=
d 1200=0D
-bytes if the client believes that the Path Maximum Transmission Unit (PM=
TU)=0D
-supports the size that it chooses.=0D
+These datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the =
client=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-These datagrams containing Initial packets MA=
Y exceed 1200 bytes if the client=0D
+Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client=
=0D
=0D =0D =0D

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -549,9 +544,7 @@ expired, the sender SHOULD send ack-eliciting packets from other packet
 number spaces with in-flight data, coalescing packets if possible.
 
 When the PTO timer expires, and there is new or previously sent unacknowledged
-data, it MUST be sent.  Data that was previously sent with Initial encryption
-MUST be sent before Handshake data and data previously sent at Handshake
-encryption MUST be sent before any ApplicationData data.

Ah, right, of course.

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This makes the anchors longer, so feel free to go with something else. Commit: 08f96e3da48faf241da7fad12cfee7b27fcef691 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/08f96e3da48faf241da7fad12cfee7b27fcef691 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-18 (Mon, 18 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3252 from kazuho/kazuho/endpoint-never-request-cid endpoints never requests a CID Commit: dfa1d15b6727d17a2a815361dd1d40cf27aae8e1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dfa1d15b6727d17a2a815361dd1d40cf27aae8e1 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-11-18 (Mon, 18 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3242 from quicwg/ianswett-ecn-editorial ECN editorial Commit: 81c610b900c4b78a7a1415d1005b7a8f5fff3464 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/81c610b900c4b78a7a1415d1005b7a8f5fff3464 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-19 (Tue, 19 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3253 from quicwg/table-tag Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors Commit: 7ba7687f9e743e0a63db3b8d526e7b46a7402a95 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ba7687f9e743e0a63db3b8d526e7b46a7402a95 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-11-20 (Wed, 20 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Fix congestion control permissiveness Commit: a8d919426a090d1a14dbf3ed629b681d5686d4c4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a8d919426a090d1a14dbf3ed629b681d5686d4c4 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-11-20 (Wed, 20 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- remove pointless sentences Commit: f4e0319a5055460bcac3d29d5f1245ead6647f05 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f4e0319a5055460bcac3d29d5f1245ead6647f05 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-11-20 (Wed, 20 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- gorry comment Commit: 7ea7d1a76236c0504d65a5c5b390809f3f13814c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7ea7d1a76236c0504d65a5c5b390809f3f13814c Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-11-20 (Wed, 20 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- rebase Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/74c57fbe4551...7ea7d1a76236 From nobody Tue Nov 19 23:35:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131861209AF for ; 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@janaiyengar pushed 18 commits.

  • 00e05fb Reference 3168 for ECN
  • 3e0c5f0 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • c52cd49 ECN editorial
  • 31c1f5a Fix incorrect expression
  • 95ad25c Set, not seed
  • e41a121 Jana's suggestion
  • f427ed2 Reference 3168 for ECN (#3241)
  • c5d0fe9 Merge pull request #3251 from quicwg/jri/not-seed
  • bbe9e9b Merge pull request #3250 from quicwg/jri/time-threshold
  • e526ccf endpoints never requests a CID
  • 7333f46 Avoid using table- prefixes for anchors
  • 08f96e3 Merge pull request #3252 from kazuho/kazuho/endpoint-never-request-cid
  • dfa1d15 Merge pull request #3242 from quicwg/ianswett-ecn-editorial
  • 81c610b Merge pull request #3253 from quicwg/table-tag
  • 7ba7687 Fix congestion control permissiveness
  • a8d9194 remove pointless sentences
  • f4e0319 gorry comment
  • 7ea7d1a rebase

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If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the +connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent. +To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to +periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame. One method is +to resend a DATA_BLOCKED or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame when there are no +ack-eliciting packets in flight. I would add some text to the idle timeout section as well (section 10.2). Something like "An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle because of flow control; see Section XX". > @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the Suggested rephrase: "If a sender is blocked for a period longer than the idle timeout ({{name-idle-timeout}}), the connection might get closed even when data is available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender SHOULD periodically send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame when there are no ack-eliciting packets in flight." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits.
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
 and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
 DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
-control limits.  These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common
-cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes.
-
-A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames
-for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost.
-Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data
-limit is increased.
+control limits.  If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the
+connection to idle timeout, even though the data is actively queued to be sent.
+To prevent this idle timeout from occurring, the sender SHOULD continue to
+periodically send the STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame.  One method is
+to resend a DATA_BLOCKED or STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED frame when there are no
+ack-eliciting packets in flight.

I would add some text to the idle timeout section as well (section 10.2). Something like "An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle because of flow control; see Section XX".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -785,13 +785,12 @@ flow control limits.
 If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data
 and is considered blocked.  A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or
 DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow
-control limits.  These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common
-cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes.
-
-A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames
-for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost.
-Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data
-limit is increased.
+control limits.  If a sender is blocked for long enough it is possible for the

Suggested rephrase: "If a sender is blocked for a period longer than the idle timeout ({{name-idle-timeout}}), the connection might get closed even when data is available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender SHOULD periodically send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame when there are no ack-eliciting packets in flight."

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Within this thread there was an observation that there was no 'problem' that reduction in ACKs is solving.

ACKs cannot be coalesced with udp_gro and this ends up being a significant scaling issue.

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Clarify the fractions of connections an endpoint must disable spin bit for.
Fixes #3257

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  • Clarify the fractions of connections an endpoint must disable spin bit for

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@britram could you review #3270?

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The sense in the room seems to be to document in the pseudo code the recommendations in the text. Given that, I would suggest removing the pseudo code from this PR.

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Sorry, jut a bit more rewording, but looks good otherwise. > @@ -785,13 +785,11 @@ flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for a period longer than the idle +timeout ({{idle-timeout}}), the connection might get closed even when data is +available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender ```suggestion available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender that is flow control limited ``` > @@ -785,13 +785,11 @@ flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for a period longer than the idle +timeout ({{idle-timeout}}), the connection might get closed even when data is +available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender +SHOULD periodically send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame when there ```suggestion SHOULD periodically send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame when it ``` > @@ -785,13 +785,11 @@ flow control limits. If a sender runs out of flow control credit, it will be unable to send new data and is considered blocked. A sender SHOULD send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame to indicate it has data to write but is blocked by flow -control limits. These frames are expected to be sent infrequently in common -cases, but they are considered useful for debugging and monitoring purposes. - -A sender SHOULD NOT send multiple STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frames -for the same data limit, unless the original frame is determined to be lost. -Another STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame can be sent after the data -limit is increased. +control limits. If a sender is blocked for a period longer than the idle +timeout ({{idle-timeout}}), the connection might get closed even when data is +available for transmission. To keep the connection from closing, a sender +SHOULD periodically send a STREAM_DATA_BLOCKED or DATA_BLOCKED frame when there +are no ack-eliciting packets in flight. ```suggestion has no ack-eliciting packets in flight. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Sorry, jut a bit more rewording, but looks good otherwise.

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@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,17 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.

This only applies if the token is a Retry token (and not a NEW_TOKEN token).
When the client uses a NEW_TOKEN token, it would exchange this token for the Retry token when it receives a Retry packet, wouldn't it?

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The Retry packet currently allows sending an empty token. The Retry token is defined as an opaque blob

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|                        Retry Token (*)                      ...
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

where (*) "indicates that x is variable-length", which also includes zero-length values.

On the wire, an Initial packet with a zero-length token is identical to an Initial without a token. However, there's a difference on the client side, since a client will perform at most a single Retry.

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----==_mimepart_5dd8c90cb8412_11523ffc53ccd96021828-- From nobody Sat Nov 23 03:43:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBC012008A for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:43:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OxIIIHLBQ38A for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E11EF120058 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:43:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 03:43:30 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574509410; bh=Vn1hZ5ggyWzvcUEV7HS8HSjW9Hr9xJ8F+l5HBHCzsH4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cQMQkB9RhUjugKaHI/VbxnSOxuqMK1dRziX41LS9Irac+qf/2VMOiQlWkh5XF1JEl 52b2sTkPKJHqXlXhR/AgoADcRBKMnQTrdticszKgmKc5CUib/ugfPBfqmpJhgMrLQ8 enx3ylaHBtxkegIIC3ze7dhi9ffg/ahGAP24ZQAk= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] pto_count should be reset when dropping a packet number space (#3272) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dd91b62ae516_47c3fcf894cd96418235b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 11:43:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dd91b62ae516_47c3fcf894cd96418235b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit `pto_count` should be reset to 0 when a packet number space is dropped. I'd argue that this is the consistent thing to do, because when we drop a packet number space, we implicitely acknowledge all outstanding packets in that space (and remove them from `bytes_in_flight`). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3272 ----==_mimepart_5dd91b62ae516_47c3fcf894cd96418235b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

pto_count should be reset to 0 when a packet number space is dropped. I'd argue that this is the consistent thing to do, because when we drop a packet number space, we implicitely acknowledge all outstanding packets in that space (and remove them from bytes_in_flight).

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I also tend to think this is Ok. Importantly, if you don't get any ACKs, you also have no RTT samples, and in that case, continuing to backoff the PTO is very possibly the right thing to do.

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Currently, HTTP/3 references QUIC Stream IDs directly in the case of requests. However, requests are only 1 of the 4 stream types, so 3/4 of the values in GOAWAY are currently invalid, though we don't specify what happens if you receive one of those invalid values in the current draft(or I missed it).

QUIC transport has moved to a design for MAX_STREAMS(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-24#section-19.11) that specifies the allowed number of streams of a given type, rather than the Stream ID.

Currently, this is a very minor point, since it's only the GOAWAY frame that references Stream ID, but future frames, such as the PRIORITY_UPDATE frame from the HTTP priorities draft will also want to reference the Stream ID, as will future extension frames I expect.

So I suggest we call this a Request ID and it's the Stream ID of a client bidi stream right shifted 2 bits or however else we'd like to describe it.

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----==_mimepart_5dd987a5423d6_19f83fcc89acd95c29882d-- From nobody Sun Nov 24 16:59:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE31120132 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:59:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qifgGwsj5akT for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BF9B120125 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74831520079 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:59:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574643582; bh=1Q1y8/dD960n4JkqWFq69LnDdPY0dT4tgCouAb09OVk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rDW9k/u0y/P8cfzR5UzWDYTn2uIK5jEgs0MyT7VkXWpgMhvIPf08f3D6ULmgoziJk 3N2mHlrnY54NkKmrZMZlueE52gdee5+5yZFpgMrh/boQ1ZjfF5PsuVMGtisoItRb7T cBpabPr4Fdy9TCGUXe6hyMlhmesQkIMmvCY4Xzuc= Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:59:42 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 references QUIC Stream IDs directly, allowing illegal references (#3273) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddb277e650ed_9e33fb7698cd95c106618c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 00:59:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddb277e650ed_9e33fb7698cd95c106618c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I agree that such a design is possible, I am in favor of using stream IDs as they are, because that is what we have done in HTTP/2. To be precise, HTTP/2 has stream 0 (which is used for transmitting control messages), odd-numbered streams (for carrying requests), even-numbered streams (for carrying pushed requests). To paraphrase, we have had these ID holes in HTTP/2, and we haven't had issues (I assume). We've already built our infrastructure around this design, for example, we simply log the stream ID and hope that that would be sufficient to identify the request, regardless of it being one initiated by the client or one being pushed by the server. Introducing the concept of "request ID" would be a departure from this design in HTTP/2. As there would be a different number space for pushed requests, we'd be required to change the logging structure to convey a tuple of request-type and request-ID. While that is not impossible, I am not sure if that change is worth the cost. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3273#issuecomment-557949331 ----==_mimepart_5ddb277e650ed_9e33fb7698cd95c106618c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

While I agree that such a design is possible, I am in favor of using stream IDs as they are, because that is what we have done in HTTP/2.

To be precise, HTTP/2 has stream 0 (which is used for transmitting control messages), odd-numbered streams (for carrying requests), even-numbered streams (for carrying pushed requests).

To paraphrase, we have had these ID holes in HTTP/2, and we haven't had issues (I assume). We've already built our infrastructure around this design, for example, we simply log the stream ID and hope that that would be sufficient to identify the request, regardless of it being one initiated by the client or one being pushed by the server.

Introducing the concept of "request ID" would be a departure from this design in HTTP/2. As there would be a different number space for pushed requests, we'd be required to change the logging structure to convey a tuple of request-type and request-ID. While that is not impossible, I am not sure if that change is worth the cost.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I'm confused, but shouldn't `pto_count` be per-PN-space, now that PTO is per-PN-space (#3066)? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Maybe I'm confused, but shouldn't pto_count be per-PN-space, now that PTO is per-PN-space (#3066)?

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Tagging this editorial. This was clearly intended to be considered non-zero length.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,12 +1641,14 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
-If a server receives a client Initial with an invalid Retry token,
-it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.  It can either
-proceed with the handshake without verifying the token or immediately close
-({{immediate-close}}) the connection with an connection error of
-INVALID_TOKEN to cause the handshake to fail quickly instead of waiting
-for the client to timeout.
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.
+The server can drop such a packet and allow the client to time out to detect
+handshake failure, but that is a significant latency penalty to the client.

Discarding is mentioned up front, so we don't need to concern ourselves with repeating that.

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Can we add a test vector to the appendix of the TLS document?

A pull request would be appreciated. One that creates a .js file - so that the value can be automatically generated - would be ideal.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending an
 ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting
 packets have been sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending
 packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new
-activity.
+activity.  An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle

You use "should", which is a little sketchy.

An endpoint might need to send packets to avoid an idle timeout if it is unable to send application data due to being blocked on flow control limits (see {{data-flow-control}}).

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(#3270) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddb7767bc594_3f7f3f91a6ecd96c8428e7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:40:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddb7767bc594_3f7f3f91a6ecd96c8428e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. > @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable -the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random -selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is -disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process -performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths -used by the connection. +the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that +the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection +process performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all +paths used by the connection. In reviewing this last sentence, I am reminded that this provides a nice signal that might improve linkability. I think that the requirement to perform the determination separately for every network path/connection ID as suggested above is better. > @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable -the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random -selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is -disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process -performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths -used by the connection. +the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that +the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection > endpoints MUST disable their use of the spin bit on at least one in every 16 network paths, or for one in every 16 connection IDs. This ensures that the spin bit signal is disabled on approximately one in eight network paths. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3270#pullrequestreview-322063549 ----==_mimepart_5ddb7767bc594_3f7f3f91a6ecd96c8428e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
 connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
 to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
 the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable
-the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random
-selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is
-disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
-performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
-used by the connection.
+the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that
+the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection
+process performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all
+paths used by the connection.

In reviewing this last sentence, I am reminded that this provides a nice signal that might improve linkability. I think that the requirement to perform the determination separately for every network path/connection ID as suggested above is better.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
 connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
 to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
 the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable
-the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random
-selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is
-disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
-performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
-used by the connection.
+the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that
+the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection

endpoints MUST disable their use of the spin bit on at least one in every 16 network paths, or for one in every 16 connection IDs. This ensures that the spin bit signal is disabled on approximately one in eight network paths.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
 connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
 to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
 the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable
-the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random
-selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is
-disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
-performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
-used by the connection.
+the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that
+the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection

@martinthomson If we are to "ensure" that the spin bit signal would be disabled for approx. 1/8 of network paths, I think we need to require endpoints to select one in every 16 paths at random. Otherwise, the paths that would have the spin bit disabled could go below 1/8. For example, when there is only one client and one server talking to each other, and if both of them disable spin bit for every 16th connection they handle, then the spin bit would be enabled for only 1/16 of all the connections.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4331,11 +4331,10 @@ Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
 connection. Implementations MUST allow administrators of clients and servers
 to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
 the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator, implementations MUST disable
-the spin bit for a given connection with a certain likelihood. The random
-selection process SHOULD be designed such that on average the spin bit is
-disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection process
-performed at the beginning of the connection SHOULD be applied for all paths
-used by the connection.
+the spin bit for at least a sixteenth of connections with an expectation that
+the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. The selection

Quite right.

endpoints MUST disable their use of the spin bit for a random selection of at least one in every 16 network paths, or for one in every 16 connection IDs. This ensures that the spin bit signal is disabled on approximately one in eight network paths.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -210,6 +210,11 @@ Server:
 
 : The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections.
 
+Address:
+
+: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, UDP
+  protocol, and UDP port number that represents one end of a network path.

Yeah, that's what I meant, though clearly that's confusing as well. Thinking about it, what you have might be the best we can do. Let's leave it as it is.

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(#3247) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddbcb85b86ee_25853f957e6cd95c226026"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:39:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddbcb85b86ee_25853f957e6cd95c226026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this goes into late-stage, it should be design. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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If this goes into late-stage, it should be design.

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----==_mimepart_5ddbcb85b86ee_25853f957e6cd95c226026-- From nobody Mon Nov 25 04:39:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A7512094A for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:39:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RAb_LjPzJRaw for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4846120940 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394838C018B for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:39:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574685583; bh=x2GO2x6APT/shwUW6B6xvmMpkd0Y2eBCB9MqxL7WKmA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jnwEPPtj8TIEwFyb2ubtGDnepmJvNKpUlu3xdmMGR9A3eeR1tOGB1FII+EAzb/bON YnmKM+wqPsVTtFDLWC5WWepAOKuhjT8oOgPjk54uzd6PXec1w5hMU3UEiUoBxe+8pF rWFNd3z1ol3F1r4YJq7YapYFf6WZ/dJrbcIxR9Pk= Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:39:43 -0800 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Can we make a normative ref to RFC8085? (#3244) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddbcb8f28c2c_38a73fa14d2cd96c384a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:39:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddbcb8f28c2c_38a73fa14d2cd96c384a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this goes into late-stage, it should be design. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3244#issuecomment-558137644 ----==_mimepart_5ddbcb8f28c2c_38a73fa14d2cd96c384a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If this goes into late-stage, it should be design.

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----==_mimepart_5ddbcb8f28c2c_38a73fa14d2cd96c384a6-- From nobody Mon Nov 25 06:57:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B051F120973 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:57:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nD0GnLAMDCQW for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1252D120976 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D9D8C0851 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:57:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574693856; bh=Smxo5oofei1ZOpu5gBua6maAebnALlPj7HO8D6Bq+xY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2d+/IlkQYe0vv8/zlSZIwNLJ4pw9Fkj7KUi/Ik483W6Z53jwD7s5WkVLKVnQghUkr sNkLKpG7/61u85aVqC3ygc/vujqnSLyRrcWeIbQ9a59HVQDRDneijKNZdI0jLwdIod I3796pbp1aqiifp9kqhs70ril+0hFFOvBfxCn0hI= Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:57:36 -0800 From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Prevent Idle Timeout while Blocked (#3266) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddbebe0582c_8bf3febaa8cd96496261"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:57:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddbebe0582c_8bf3febaa8cd96496261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nibanks commented on this pull request. > @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending an ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new -activity. +activity. An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle You can thank @janaiyengar for the sentence. :) Either way, I do prefer Jana's text over "might need to send", though both seem like they are just trying to skate around using normative language. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3266#discussion_r350232033 ----==_mimepart_5ddbebe0582c_8bf3febaa8cd96496261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending an
 ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting
 packets have been sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending
 packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new
-activity.
+activity.  An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle

You can thank @janaiyengar for the sentence. :) Either way, I do prefer Jana's text over "might need to send", though both seem like they are just trying to skate around using normative language.

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----==_mimepart_5ddbebe0582c_8bf3febaa8cd96496261-- From nobody Mon Nov 25 12:05:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E3D120F51 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:05:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PS3ltJSKuv4b for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6C07120F2B for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:05:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:05:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574712320; bh=M1qf8P0eUghfYrffiGKLajhXx1XPl9q2YpLv30IZTp0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=THV3EYTEvH7WRqZnqvjPkMOo1nnpCu5QrOYWaIsKY0/C++vD16k5QtDea6UtBrT/5 rI+G1BioR1bSCoWfZJyJSF2hr63Nwojv2feJ9x1W2gkbKQInVja4Tp2cr6GaBfFm2T DldJgL7KFB6JF8B02xkV2gZh8MZifaI11zfc/s4Y= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 references QUIC Stream IDs directly, allowing illegal references (#3273) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddc3400bbaa8_1a2a3fe002ecd96c30553b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:05:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddc3400bbaa8_1a2a3fe002ecd96c30553b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this issue came up in Cupertino and the current approach was about as close to consensus as any of the alternatives. I don't feel strongly either way which makes me somewhat inclined to leave things alone. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3273#issuecomment-558319125 ----==_mimepart_5ddc3400bbaa8_1a2a3fe002ecd96c30553b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think this issue came up in Cupertino and the current approach was about as close to consensus as any of the alternatives. I don't feel strongly either way which makes me somewhat inclined to leave things alone.

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----==_mimepart_5ddc3400bbaa8_1a2a3fe002ecd96c30553b-- From nobody Mon Nov 25 12:53:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE41F120F71 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:53:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s7zd9OtrAy4f for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A8DF120F6F for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:53:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:53:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574715205; bh=SKAJalSBS0pdzEHSE1SfTcvJTTb3MGaMcki9jC+2zIY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iJ+q1TIu8c6ePeqpt2KbXiqNsz3HoJeaFgv76j5au9fD+rA/TmHWnB9vwORn4/2qB jhowpN6xxGtGCDvQEQjY4lNnOEIYf8SIYw0o5ziKx9dOlb/uMfrk+YdHaxrgtHbpzh Whjaf+j9kzic5wU+T565rzwx/k+1fJ2rShvhzyKY= From: hardie Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix congestion control permissiveness (#3248) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddc3f458359b_158b3fbeec8cd96885982"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: hardie X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:53:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddc3f458359b_158b3fbeec8cd96885982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The proposed commit says: "If an endpoint uses a different controller than that specified in this document, it MUST conform to the congestion control guidelines specified in {{!RFC8085}}." RFC 8085's section 3.1 appears to be the salient piece here, along with its reference to RFC 2914. A more direct pointer might be useful. I also note that you have a MUST pointer to what amounts to a set of guidelines which are all SHOULD or RECOMMENDED, which is a level lower. The result is likely to be a little less strict than the naive reader might believe. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248#issuecomment-558335166 ----==_mimepart_5ddc3f458359b_158b3fbeec8cd96885982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The proposed commit says: "If an endpoint uses a different controller than that specified in this document, it MUST conform to the congestion control guidelines specified in {{!RFC8085}}." RFC 8085's section 3.1 appears to be the salient piece here, along with its reference to RFC 2914. A more direct pointer might be useful.

I also note that you have a MUST pointer to what amounts to a set of guidelines which are all SHOULD or RECOMMENDED, which is a level lower. The result is likely to be a little less strict than the naive reader might believe.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Nov 25 15:55:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7845C120CDB for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:55:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KV7r1ajdMICE for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53CD7120C81 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F55D2C1240 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:54:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574726073; bh=H4kkXCe0JfeQjEfdT6OUT1KJdyWTp2D9uhfG+HKlj+w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nLYaTNssxf0RBicUwoje9ZoTqrU+R9Im72kTrIZyTzha99R4qY4bdF6uQ4ZwrMM9D cz7izG0Ex8k+q3Z26++PzdR0cr9FqsupjVt5loYWOkXZaEgE3MpkyGIngnIpFY7ctj TziXlvCV3FQ0XQ0Vzex7CdsjKaPVgziTPcW0HjjE= Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:54:33 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Prevent Idle Timeout while Blocked (#3266) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddc69b9503d6_182c3ff6760cd9682137d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 23:55:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddc69b9503d6_182c3ff6760cd9682137d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully. The timer is also restarted when sending an ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent since last receiving a packet. Restarting when sending packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new -activity. +activity. An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle Not so much. We can't require anything here as there isn't any interoperability hazard we're avoiding. The goal is to make the consequence of certain choices clear. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3266#discussion_r350482488 ----==_mimepart_5ddc69b9503d6_182c3ff6760cd9682137d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending an
 ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting
 packets have been sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending
 packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new
-activity.
+activity.  An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle

Not so much. We can't require anything here as there isn't any interoperability hazard we're avoiding. The goal is to make the consequence of certain choices clear.

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LGTM, though I think we need to add similar text for STREAMS_BLOCKED too.

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Though there was a suggestion that this could reference other sections, but as this is in some ways the authoritative section on the subject, I decided to keep the requirements. That's duplicative, but I couldn't see a simple way to deal with that. Closes #3255. Commit: f831a871f2c06df618c13b056d97cf0f6fefefc1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f831a871f2c06df618c13b056d97cf0f6fefefc1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-26 (Tue, 26 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- iyengareditorialization Commit: d7dd049f2a3f98d43132620708b9231668c049a9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d7dd049f2a3f98d43132620708b9231668c049a9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-26 (Tue, 26 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3262 from quicwg/remove-first-initial Remove some cruft from packet size section Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4c85c51e2577...d7dd049f2a3f From nobody Mon Nov 25 16:32:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF0E120FCA for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:32:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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@kazuho I'd argue this whole section should have similar text for STREAMS_BLOCKED, not just the text this PR is adding.

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Introducing the concept of "request ID" would be a departure from this design in HTTP/2. As there would be a different number space for pushed requests, we'd be required to change the logging structure to convey a tuple of request-type and request-ID. While that is not impossible, I am not sure if that change is worth the cost.

Not to mention having to maintain a Request ID -> Stream ID mapping. I agree with @kazuho.

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This suggestion was considered and discussed already as part of the decision to add push identifiers. I don't see any new information here.

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@nibanks Corresponding text already exists in section 4.5.

An endpoint that is unable to open a new stream due to the peer's limits SHOULD send a STREAMS_BLOCKED frame ({{frame-streams-blocked}}). This signal is considered useful for debugging.

My point is that we might want to update this too, as the sender should behave the same way when it is blocked by data flow control vs. when blocked by stream-level concurrency.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2353,7 +2351,8 @@ processed successfully.  The timer is also restarted when sending an
 ack-eliciting packet (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), but only if no other ack-eliciting
 packets have been sent since last receiving a packet.  Restarting when sending
 packets ensures that connections do not prematurely time out when initiating new
-activity.
+activity.  An endpoint should be careful to avoid an idle timeout if it is idle
+because of flow control (see {{data-flow-control}}).

Maybe change the reference to {{flow-control}}? Otherwise, blocked by stream concurrency would be out-of-scope.

Or, we might say "data flow control ({{data-flow-control}}) or stream concurrency ({{controlling-concurrency}})."

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If there are MUSTs we believe are important from 8085 and apply to QUIC and are not already MUSTs in other portions of the QUIC specs, I'd suggest we move those explicitly into this document and then either non-normatively reference 8085 or use a SHOULD for the rest of the document?

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@ianswett requested changes on this pull request.

Based on Ted's feedback, I think we should move anything that's really a MUST into this document.

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This seems a bit at odd with our design principles, since it requires the HTTP/3 implementation to understand the QUIC Stream ID numbering scheme. In our implementation that's viable and it probably is in others. The current text says:
"A client MUST treat receipt of a GOAWAY
frame containing a Stream ID of any other type as a connection error
of type H3_ID_ERROR."

I don't remember us discussing this particular detail of GOAWAY in Cupertino, but I also wasn't very invested in the GOAWAY discussion, so I believe I missed it.

To be clear, the Request ID -> Stream ID mapping is multiplying by 4 in this case. There is no state required.

TLDR: This seems weird, but I'm ok with closing with no action if others don't care to fix the oddity.

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----==_mimepart_5dde0b60eb5f3_14973fb60eccd964450116-- From nobody Tue Nov 26 21:48:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21BE1208F1 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:48:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JjL-pEBbKcwK for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E2721201DB for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C4B8C054E for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:48:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574833685; bh=s6h24RRFgAENKd0uXcXGKrfd3dYlysj2jxyCOkGGPy4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kY/iJa4HA76GAVGKydbXaIZ/63pFy9skCXG1W4m1Ax5Zmrgy/xWyr+JdlMp/O53Hb xo/W+wpmA8mU7LolZBcl0DhFAx0k3FQEs/Epbh/+akN7nNJkkxWEBdqo0FlCVb0nqQ nPw5eu0lkRD7Af44V68T15zCE4hLWihPYxRfnltk= Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:48:05 -0800 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] pto_count should be reset when dropping a packet number space (#3272) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde0e1599b06_3aee3fac086cd95c383385"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:48:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde0e1599b06_3aee3fac086cd95c383385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe the simplest way to ensure QUIC isn't overly aggressive during the handshake and to encourage packet coalescing is to specify pto_count on a connection scope, similar to the rtt variables. I considered making pto_count per-PN space, but that doesn't ensure quite the same exponential backoff properties and I don't believe it's necessary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3272#issuecomment-558939818 ----==_mimepart_5dde0e1599b06_3aee3fac086cd95c383385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe the simplest way to ensure QUIC isn't overly aggressive during the handshake and to encourage packet coalescing is to specify pto_count on a connection scope, similar to the rtt variables. I considered making pto_count per-PN space, but that doesn't ensure quite the same exponential backoff properties and I don't believe it's necessary.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -769,7 +769,10 @@ Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial
 congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of
 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where
 max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection,
-not including UDP or IP overhead.
+not including UDP or IP overhead. An implementation that does not use pacing
+SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to

In order to meet the previous criteria, how about "An implementation that doest not use pacing MAY limit the congestion window increase during slow start to 2 * max_datagram_size_ per ACK frame received {{?RFC3465}} in order to help limit bursts to the initial congestion window."

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -769,7 +769,10 @@ Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial
 congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of
 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where
 max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection,
-not including UDP or IP overhead.
+not including UDP or IP overhead. An implementation that does not use pacing
+SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to

I think we can say either "MAY" or "SHOULD" instead of MAY/SHOULD. I am ok with changing it to "MAY" as there is already a requirement for limiting it to 10 datagrams in the previous line.

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----==_mimepart_5dde1e39d359c_81e3fa1ea6cd95c528148-- From nobody Tue Nov 26 23:45:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484B5120836 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:45:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vicyLV3a_UQp for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97A501207FE for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:45:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:45:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574840731; bh=CqCJU2PEF+9fNCnuL/bDcXZkL2rta/tXRV6Hv/hqUVc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vav28Bk+axV6rFHbi9n+Re4PP6V0RP/tr/GMdzWZoNwrlPoc+H+xh2NGw+udr6uoy SvB/21xL3vxE2LAXpzAOqEyFCegMPi7UDzcF+i94idzPPNwYpDIL9P810t+eYQIJSq VZBFGMQcG3LuIvdXhNT9Lh5RUCqj4yu2FmBxI2/8= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Encrypting Retry token (#3274) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde299bc5403_66373f8d6e6cd9605295db"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 07:45:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde299bc5403_66373f8d6e6cd9605295db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Singapore, we reached an impasse regarding the use of encryption on Retry. >From that discussion, there were two outcomes considered: * "encrypt" using a fixed key and nonce and don't encrypt the token; put the original destination connection ID in the AAD along with the entire packet * encrypt the token using the fixed key and a nonce that takes the first 8 bytes of the original destination connection ID; the AAD only includes the connection IDs and version The first can be reduced to running GHASH with a fixed XOR on the final tag if you really want to save effort. I've implemented and measured that. The second can be implemented naively, just by building a new AES key for every record. That's not terribly slow at 2.8x slower. With some nasty tricks, I was able to get the AES version under 1.7x slower. Given the relative cost of these functions, I think that this is an acceptable cost. There's no guarantee that this is correct - I haven't even checked that these programs produce the right output, but the count of operations is approximately right, so I'm posting this issue. My code can be found at [martinthomson/quic-retry-tag](https://github.com/martinthomson/quic-retry-tag/blob/master/bench.c) in case reproduction or validation thrills you. Here's the output of a sample run on my old machine with about 1Mb of Retry packets fed through the different implementations, which takes about 32 seconds to complete: ``` Measuring best of 1000 iterations ghash: 22450242 aes_gcm_slow: 60070152 aes_gcm_fast: 35240211 ``` Now, obviously this is a microbenchmark. The rest of the cost will be elsewhere, but I tried to isolate the variable. Hopefully this helps the decision-making process. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3274 ----==_mimepart_5dde299bc5403_66373f8d6e6cd9605295db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In Singapore, we reached an impasse regarding the use of encryption on Retry.

From that discussion, there were two outcomes considered:

  • "encrypt" using a fixed key and nonce and don't encrypt the token; put the original destination connection ID in the AAD along with the entire packet

  • encrypt the token using the fixed key and a nonce that takes the first 8 bytes of the original destination connection ID; the AAD only includes the connection IDs and version

The first can be reduced to running GHASH with a fixed XOR on the final tag if you really want to save effort. I've implemented and measured that.

The second can be implemented naively, just by building a new AES key for every record. That's not terribly slow at 2.8x slower. With some nasty tricks, I was able to get the AES version under 1.7x slower. Given the relative cost of these functions, I think that this is an acceptable cost.

There's no guarantee that this is correct - I haven't even checked that these programs produce the right output, but the count of operations is approximately right, so I'm posting this issue. My code can be found at martinthomson/quic-retry-tag in case reproduction or validation thrills you.

Here's the output of a sample run on my old machine with about 1Mb of Retry packets fed through the different implementations, which takes about 32 seconds to complete:

Measuring best of 1000 iterations
ghash:          22450242
aes_gcm_slow:   60070152
aes_gcm_fast:   35240211

Now, obviously this is a microbenchmark. The rest of the cost will be elsewhere, but I tried to isolate the variable. Hopefully this helps the decision-making process.

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----==_mimepart_5dde299bc5403_66373f8d6e6cd9605295db-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 00:32:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5217812080A for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:32:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KOXsmOo6DQnE for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10E9A1207FE for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:32:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:32:03 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574843523; bh=67FBxplZhoJnwbvm5Q1m7WkCVH7c65lIVpGSzvK5p7g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yZUPuepJwFPr4C+1JRJNdw0w9EVH2zv8kMDiF77mcwj9HiuN+Rj6I3Uk3xHzeicFh ex4mnwCLxOrd1vzvVbaKcLJdHG4wAD/+GrhHcgj1j2v8HNQOLtsYsz8++yzx/yNnJG WRE1QtCdn0DCCZKXMujJmF19dlSvmVA6B7KNAQIw= From: Gorry Fairhurst Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix congestion control permissiveness (#3248) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde34834ce9b_55ea3fc5baacd964750081"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:32:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde34834ce9b_55ea3fc5baacd964750081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd always believed the intent was for the design for QUIC to fall within the scope of BCP145, which provides the check-list of SHOULD and MUST requirements for UDP-based protocol mechanisms. Moving blocks of requirements language and surrounding context that relate to QUIC from BCP145, seems like creating a lot of work, with very little positive outcomes. Citing this as normative to an implementation seems like it avoids much of this, and also much reduces the need for detailed checking in last call. Is there a reason to "move" to the QUIC document itself? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3248#issuecomment-558984397 ----==_mimepart_5dde34834ce9b_55ea3fc5baacd964750081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd always believed the intent was for the design for QUIC to fall within the scope of BCP145, which provides the check-list of SHOULD and MUST requirements for UDP-based protocol mechanisms.

Moving blocks of requirements language and surrounding context that relate to QUIC from BCP145, seems like creating a lot of work, with very little positive outcomes. Citing this as normative to an implementation seems like it avoids much of this, and also much reduces the need for detailed checking in last call.

Is there a reason to "move" to the QUIC document itself?

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I suspect that Ian is looking to create a stronger requirement for congestion control than BCP145 has. BCP145 is full of SHOULD, with no MUST.

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At the moment, the HTTP draft defines two ways of associating a pushed response with requests. One of the requests being associated uses PUSH_PROMISE, while other requests use DUPLICATE_PUSH when referring to the same pushed response.

This seems like an unnecessary complexity to me.

I wonder if we can use the following design instead:

  • Send the request of a push on the "push stream," instead of sending it using PUSH_PROMISE.
  • Merge PUSH_PROMISE and DUPLICATE_PUSH into one frame. The unified frame type would carry the PUSH_ID only.
  • (Optionally) change PUSH_ID to stream ID.

I think that such change would simplify the client-side code, as there would no longer be two different logic for associating a push with a request. On the server-side, the change would also simplify the code, assuming that the server uses DUPLICATE_PUSH. My intuition that servers should be using that to avoid pushing the same resource twice on a single connection.

The argument against making such change would be that there would be no guarantee that the pushed URL would be available to the client before the client discovers the use of that pushed URL. However, in the current state, that guarantee exists only when the PUSH_PROMISE frame is being used, but not when DUPLICATE_PUSH is used. Considering that, I am doubtful if having something that occasionally works is worth the complexity.

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Note also that the current design has the priority inversion issue.

When the server sends a PUSH_PROMISE frame on request stream A, then sends a DUPLICATE_PUSH frame on stream B referring to the same pushed resource, and if stream B has higher precedence than stream A, then delivery of the request header of the pushed resource might get significantly delayed. Such a behavior would have negative effect on a well-designed client that blocks on the DUPLICATE_PUSH frame until it receives the request header of the pushed resource.

Sending the request headers on the pushed stream resolves the issue. The server can more easily control the priority of a pushed stream, it becomes much easier to send the request headers of a pushed response before anything else.

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Send the request of a push on the "push stream," instead of sending it using PUSH_PROMISE.

How would you do this? With a HEADERS frame, or some new frame type? The reason I ask is because it would seem to change the message ordering that we have defined today (HEADERS, DATA, HEADERS)

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----==_mimepart_5dde644fc0b0a_77523fe0620cd960106359-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 04:04:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A892D120894 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:04:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nGWNWYJgJLfv for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 644F912088F for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:04:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:04:27 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574856267; bh=jKXFGkjQmW97e7LwUxDP1DmJLqq3BuNgQ70swa/BGzU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ij4u+kmXflbMQo3Twv4QbFNOTHWPisCS7i78irayCV9EHjhVK3BubcIHw5IRbhaLi FbhM0cMx+fbivVltLOCi3xRq4td7jWSW9v/H4DQU5ypItjQ2Q++gOt6WCh5sRzuCtv 5Lmz7P1yj16iHcSIZiWc5Jx0qU8aLZFgCKbOhpis= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde664b99278_272a3ff89a0cd9602064a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:04:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde664b99278_272a3ff89a0cd9602064a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue Good point. It can be a new frame, or I think it can also be a HEADERS frame. In case of the latter, the first HEADERS frame would be the request, and the second HEADERS frame would be the response headers. This can be guaranteed since a push request is never accompanied by a request body. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559059633 ----==_mimepart_5dde664b99278_272a3ff89a0cd9602064a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@LPardue Good point. It can be a new frame, or I think it can also be a HEADERS frame.

In case of the latter, the first HEADERS frame would be the request, and the second HEADERS frame would be the response headers. This can be guaranteed since a push request is never accompanied by a request body.

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Since you mention priority, the other question I have is at what priority is the pushed response delivered at? For example, with the proposal, the server gets request A (low precedence) and B (high precedence) it responds with unified PUSH_PROMISE on both A and B, which priority does the client believe the server is delivering the push stream with?

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RFC8085 has basically only SHOULDs because it tries to cover all kind of cases of UDP-based protocols. So if we can be more specific for QUIC that would be good. However, QUIC is also meant as a general purpose protocol so I'm not sure we can. I think it is most important to have a pointer to RFC8085. Not sure if any other requirements can be made (other than don't break the Internet) unfortunately...

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Having implemented DUPLICATE_PUSH on the server, I say that the complexity is increased compared with gQUIC or HTTP/2, but it's not too bad.

On the client side, the biggest problem I haven't yet solved is that push promise, when received, might not have a stream associated with it. At that point, the user code cannot be given a push promise stream to process or refuse the push promise. This can be solved in a few ways:

  • delay informing the user that push promise has arrived until the push stream gets created;
  • create a stream but delay assigning stream ID to it (and disable some stream functionality); or
  • create a different API for HTTP/3 push promises.

I haven't made up my mind about which of these I dislike the least.

@kazuho's proposal would solve this problem on the client and so I agree with his argumentation regarding client complexity. Nevertheless, the current design must have some rationale behind it, which I expect @MikeBishop to share with us on this thread.

We should also keep in mind that the HTTP draft entered Late Stage yesterday.

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----==_mimepart_5dde818c1e059_54073fd3016cd964188095-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 06:22:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D523120915 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:22:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jcYx6-OeHFym for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACB18120918 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B236A049A for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:21:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574864511; bh=qUshCocZHJ7PJrEaIIHli2S/AUKx87LNUsVN+DSw0Wo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OsdnF7W+5N3zcaVserjdprIRCgnb6CXDKIhy1BSo/sGUV7NmV+SvkaDP8+zHlYzDP iLdFlMn1uo9700vSjoR5B6zHkLcbvZ0+rEZK3Tm1Tb0QadehS4x8GTbfRaZGEo/UPs 0i1mlRbFksv3d3Zh/kKTqGidlImAFLp10x0nObWc= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:21:51 -0800 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ambiguous wording about error codes in HTTP/3 (#3276) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde867fb5068_43373fcdc0ecd95c292226"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:22:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde867fb5068_43373fcdc0ecd95c292226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Creating an issue on behalf of @SamB that reflects #3239. On that PR they quote a section of the document and say: > It's not very clear what it means to not treat an error code as an error. Maybe [replacing "an error" with "a further error"] is what's meant? (If not, please explain it better.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3276 ----==_mimepart_5dde867fb5068_43373fcdc0ecd95c292226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Creating an issue on behalf of @SamB that reflects #3239. On that PR they quote a section of the document and say:

It's not very clear what it means to not treat an error code as an error.
Maybe [replacing "an error" with "a further error"] is what's meant? (If not, please explain it better.)

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I have a comment, so I created issue #3276 to discuss track discussion.

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I don't think the suggested change is aligned with the intent but there might be something we can do to improve the readability.

"error codes" are used for normal operations when it comes to closing streams. So one interpretation of the current text is to say that if you get an unknown error code in a RESET_STREAM, don't treat it as any kind of error. The suggested text "further error" confuses this interpretation.

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On the client side, the biggest problem I haven't yet solved is that push promise, when received, might not have a stream associated with it. At that point, the user code cannot be given a push promise stream to process or refuse the push promise.

Caveat that I have only a very naive API for client-side push handling. I thought one purpose of the current design was to allow the proactive cancellation of pushes before the server committed stream resources, via CANCEL_PUSH.

@kazuho's proposal makes CANCEL_PUSH pretty worthless for the client (and it was already only applicable for a small time window). With this proposal the client needs to decide to cancel based on the limited information in the simplified PUSH_PROMISE. To further simplifies server push just restrict CANCEL_PUSH to be server-sent only and state that a client can only cancel pushes by issuing STOP_SENDING.

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... one purpose of the current design was to allow the proactive cancellation of pushes before the server committed stream resources, via CANCEL_PUSH.

Good point, I've forgotten about this.

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----==_mimepart_5dde8ceb1f009_7bc63fddc64cd96414643e-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 06:54:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF05120966 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:53:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K8nAmGPFPHKJ for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13FF0120926 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:53:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:53:56 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574866436; bh=zG1g9aY2XMmLjpcmgrs/G+KgfAVMoAS43QCP+G+Olyg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HYyd+UJeazOgveDiE39uH/u24ynV8uPJhemTmPy3UB23gWjMuZNxbAO91widbEHnr +NmXoZQFsNS1L4HkCbzv7C9nSxnWNcwP7kdyxi45fc1slXshLkLWnaJiOgnbJg2kzg e8bFC2VqolvOBib0pS8QNC0ppc3Tg3GZtx7vADh4= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/3 references QUIC Stream IDs directly, allowing illegal references (#3273) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5dde8e0433a1c_40f3fa6218cd96070964"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:53:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5dde8e0433a1c_40f3fa6218cd96070964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't remember us discussing this particular detail of GOAWAY in Cupertino, but I also wasn't very invested in the GOAWAY discussion, so I believe I missed it. I think it was on the last day: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-19-10/minutes.md#next-issue-goaway-see-above -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3273#issuecomment-559120238 ----==_mimepart_5dde8e0433a1c_40f3fa6218cd96070964 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't remember us discussing this particular detail of GOAWAY in Cupertino, but I also wasn't very invested in the GOAWAY discussion, so I believe I missed it.

I think it was on the last day:

https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-19-10/minutes.md#next-issue-goaway-see-above

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I find it easier to refer to Stream IDs because that's what STOP_SENDING and RESET_STREAM use. Having some other value sent on the wire seems like a good way to get interop problems, especially because the first request would have stream ID 0 and 0*4 = 0.

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Send the request of a push on the "push stream," instead of sending it using PUSH_PROMISE.

Would that mean the that URL of the pushed resource would not be guaranteed to known to the client before a reference to that resource was referenced by the body of the main response?

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By my understanding that woul be the case

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----==_mimepart_5ddedc3f13ac9_29453ffaceccd9644112fb-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 12:34:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD4E1209B1 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:34:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7bq1oHiSneJD for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20759120908 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A8D521DEA for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:34:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574886853; bh=AcC0F8p68vu/sf6ujPNO5WIhqZI/Tp52bKKAAj3aCrk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1kC/Agh/mU9qNxEbeiI+YZF9mQ3nIKc18QU+OxdG5EImzgSRkQcSIeyduYVgGBYVd gMNp1SCbd2VQ93JdqH3exgqWlfGbxNUhZjqqxHCd1XzK1bZ5BqnqxNNskN/ppBdNQ1 Om0zobBYq0rB2Ui3S22DwXL9x8havwsLCpAHZx8k= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:34:13 -0800 From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddeddc569f10_277e3fcc740cd96c25441f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:34:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddeddc569f10_277e3fcc740cd96c25441f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That seems like a show-stopper to me. Push is full of sharp edges already and this would add another one. I think we need a guarantee that if the server is pushing a URL, the client knows about it before it makes a request for that resource. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559242203 ----==_mimepart_5ddeddc569f10_277e3fcc740cd96c25441f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That seems like a show-stopper to me. Push is full of sharp edges already and this would add another one. I think we need a guarantee that if the server is pushing a URL, the client knows about it before it makes a request for that resource.

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----==_mimepart_5ddeddc569f10_277e3fcc740cd96c25441f-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 12:41:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154CD12007C for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IugkgSk2m7nK for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7944F120018 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-25680bd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5455204F5 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:41:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574887271; bh=humpX31piS8TJsJ9B90DgKlwQxsShGa7OODcjMk9uxQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pXmpGR8gZ9tOA6hnVQ4Fa177MhRCOh2lCIqKqJGWC7Vl8iZ8SqhYjykXH3aa4pjZC FPfoxKiYKX3xJVWZ7gbWXGLZJfYKwecTUy1PpfAd+yE7by9eacAfv3XHn7lsYG6HWx OhZ7lMskj4wct8tsYirO7QARAB2tjuDQtvjT5vhc= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:41:11 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddedf679be06_6d113fc9082cd95c134ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:41:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddedf679be06_6d113fc9082cd95c134ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think we need a guarantee that if the server is pushing a URL, the client knows about it before it makes a request for that resource. My point is that there is already no such guarantee. A client might receive a DUPLICATE_PUSH with an yet unknown PUSH_ID. In such case, the client cannot tell the URL being pushed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559244063 ----==_mimepart_5ddedf679be06_6d113fc9082cd95c134ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think we need a guarantee that if the server is pushing a URL, the client knows about it before it makes a request for that resource.

My point is that there is already no such guarantee. A client might receive a DUPLICATE_PUSH with an yet unknown PUSH_ID. In such case, the client cannot tell the URL being pushed.

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----==_mimepart_5ddedf679be06_6d113fc9082cd95c134ae-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 12:49:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3AF120A87 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:48:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qr_-LI_ldgqa for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5C3F120A79 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:48:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:48:56 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574887736; bh=XzQPpU+Cfo04MNXIDYPa5DtjxxT/iy+X/C00qLRfd60=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Lv7e7TEAFntHnPMA/cH2R1cQKCYhwsj+4kjew4ENybZeGFDdCGhalY7H5BAigPBLU lc8/J2ZPbZQa6GQmfmKij0+gsZsrC6S+ERUKrJqNhQX9+5GWYdcy54J3X9luuiT8Ix yMgfuEsaiHj9eqBRp4Pf2A3jlMyqvjfaaFgbDwgM= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddee138d1047_148e3fb27b2cd964103893"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:48:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddee138d1047_148e3fb27b2cd964103893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe we need something more like the gQUIC design that puts all pushes on a different stream ;) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559246166 ----==_mimepart_5ddee138d1047_148e3fb27b2cd964103893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe we need something more like the gQUIC design that puts all pushes on a different stream ;)

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----==_mimepart_5ddee138d1047_148e3fb27b2cd964103893-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 13:04:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797C0120127 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:04:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LPOifUbvqdBV for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF48A120A96 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C786E0167 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:04:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574888668; bh=RSNhvoxQBOsWkspkU4MqK+PJbspTiuWCaoTdGQe+tnk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zT7gJ4elcINjI+OHRboeR2e/eshixkio9lggJpREguowlS4YQEV4rHKh5iZY9wHnV k2mH7/jgC+KtUAhxNp/GWqIUztLvXNMZUPEsAdcq8XTAFKWvAJ2AGW7tYA7H7wbFfN 8AM8FB7favF1rOI3TVVtVrGlune6MVuLqHQIbYL8= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:04:28 -0800 From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddee4dc20811_55c93fe21eccd964372da"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:04:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddee4dc20811_55c93fe21eccd964372da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho Indeed! This is a problem for the DUPLICATE_PUSH case, but not a problem in the simple PUSH_PROMISE case. I don't like the idea of extending this problem. (And I really hate that this is a problem with DUPLICATE_PUSH at all :>). I wonder if an alternative might be to change DUPLICATE_PUSH to include the URL of the resource being promised? (This won't be the full request headers, but at least it would include the URL). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559250305 ----==_mimepart_5ddee4dc20811_55c93fe21eccd964372da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho Indeed! This is a problem for the DUPLICATE_PUSH case, but not a problem in the simple PUSH_PROMISE case. I don't like the idea of extending this problem. (And I really hate that this is a problem with DUPLICATE_PUSH at all :>).

I wonder if an alternative might be to change DUPLICATE_PUSH to include the URL of the resource being promised? (This won't be the full request headers, but at least it would include the URL).

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I had a similar thought, but then you're on a slippery slope towards sending the complete pseudo-request and back to the problem we had with coordinationating different promises with the same push ID that led to DUPLICATE_PUSH

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@RyanAtGoogle @LPardue I actually think that sending PUSH_PROMISE with the entire set of request headers on all request streams that refer to the same push would be a reasonable approach. The client can then check that the request headers are equivalent.

Doing so also solves HoLB caused by priority inversion (see #3275 (comment)).

I do not anticipate that the there would be many request headers within a push, so sending all the request headers would not be a big concern regarding bandwidth.

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Maybe something like "MUST NOT be interpreted as an indication of a problem"?

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That takes us to revisiting #1864

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I don't see any new information here. The design we have is the result of balancing the need to have certain information in order with responses (as @RyanAtGoogle points out) and the desire to avoid the complexity and costs of duplication.

One advantage of the current design is the ability to exercise flexibility. There is nothing preventing someone from pushing the same thing twice in this design, thereby avoiding DUPLICATE_PUSH.

Having implemented this, both at the server and the client, I can say that it is awkward, but not terribly so. DUPLICATE_PUSH is a little tricky to thread on the server side, primarily due to it being hard to find something that is worth duplicating. The client has no real problem with it other than the obvious ordering issue. In that case, the simplest course is to proceed as though no push were promised until the PUSH_PROMISE arrives.

The possibility of priority inversion exists, but as pushes are discretionary, I don't see a significant downside. Like QPACK, it's a discretionary feature and the server can make its own decisions about the risks.

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----==_mimepart_5ddefcefa4dbf_79f23fe5dd4cd96829112c-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 15:01:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11D7120AF1 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:01:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87E2eUdTGB2m for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0163D120A58 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:01:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:01:50 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574895710; bh=BWdos8iOfQQgA7MNlGZimxAQzo3OXQWS4Y1lvlx2eJM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Tt0pX6PQSdaIS5io7v7DY/a9O9/HDbRmEDkrbK8/TPDebpxQSzOihMv4U4/dcNoUw u56IE456uXfwxi40lopa8m2Xzh8uyAiBAqcmYDU0NlgyjgyVRTTj22TmG8eZOVyMyD upTPftbWMCJCuoxLUCtUpUuaw1xNpqVWOeoNNgWk= From: Ryan Hamilton Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why are there two ways of associating push with requests? (#3275) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddf005e22693_75083fa81cacd95c352184"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: RyanAtGoogle X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:01:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddf005e22693_75083fa81cacd95c352184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that there's no new information here; I just really dislike the sharp edge of the current DUPLICATE_PUSH behavior: > In that case, the simplest course is to proceed as though no push were promised until the PUSH_PROMISE arrives. Indeed, that is the simplest course. But unless all user-agents do the same thing it means that servers can't rely on particular client-side behavior which is a real bummer. Push is already hard enough to get right (in both clients and servers) it seems like adding more rough edges runs the risk of resulting in push being disabled/removed from some implementations. (I believe Brad Lassey from Chrome presented at IETF 102 data which suggested doing exactly this) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3275#issuecomment-559279217 ----==_mimepart_5ddf005e22693_75083fa81cacd95c352184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that there's no new information here; I just really dislike the sharp edge of the current DUPLICATE_PUSH behavior:

In that case, the simplest course is to proceed as though no push were promised until the PUSH_PROMISE arrives.

Indeed, that is the simplest course. But unless all user-agents do the same thing it means that servers can't rely on particular client-side behavior which is a real bummer. Push is already hard enough to get right (in both clients and servers) it seems like adding more rough edges runs the risk of resulting in push being disabled/removed from some implementations. (I believe Brad Lassey from Chrome presented at IETF 102 data which suggested doing exactly this)

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----==_mimepart_5ddf005e22693_75083fa81cacd95c352184-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 15:26:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEEE120AF7 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:26:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kbZVS1NTQ0eg for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A18501200B7 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:26:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:26:13 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574897173; bh=oERDUW6SAb1+J8nxi5Do7HSLs7avoXf2DlPvZFMoYfA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GILGKY0/zZ2jFigD1/nQGd2yiAZl6sA2thzncmC5dXvttl1Nra8MteSNo5QsK4hMI b+ITrvR2r6xV1SIj1R2035ycd/gGphVDeGe6fGQpteGF1lpkBqpJ70ktzbPwtOMlOf AADcgC3gBGN2ot8ZpShP2ogKrX0qR344A9QZ9Bjo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Encrypting Retry token (#3274) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddf0615732c8_7b653ff024ecd96c3683ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:26:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddf0615732c8_7b653ff024ecd96c3683ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I did this, I've realized that even this was an overly pessimistic outcome. By precomputing the XOR stream for CTR protection, it should be possible to make an even faster version of the protected form here. The result should be to narrow the gap between the GHASH-only and encrypted variant further. The difference should be limited to performing an XOR with a fixed value and a single AES operation (which in my experience is marginally cheaper than an extra GHASH operation, though the addition of ODCID to the AAD is rarely a full block, so it's hard to predict the exact outcome). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3274#issuecomment-559284228 ----==_mimepart_5ddf0615732c8_7b653ff024ecd96c3683ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Since I did this, I've realized that even this was an overly pessimistic outcome. By precomputing the XOR stream for CTR protection, it should be possible to make an even faster version of the protected form here.

The result should be to narrow the gap between the GHASH-only and encrypted variant further. The difference should be limited to performing an XOR with a fixed value and a single AES operation (which in my experience is marginally cheaper than an extra GHASH operation, though the addition of ODCID to the AAD is rarely a full block, so it's hard to predict the exact outcome).

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@LPardue @martinthomson Apologies for not chiming in to the discussion in #1864.

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One advantage of the current design is the ability to exercise flexibility. There is nothing preventing someone from pushing the same thing twice in this design, thereby avoiding DUPLICATE_PUSH.

I do not think that is something that a server should do, as it would mean that the server would be pushing not only the headers but the entire response multiple times to the client.

@RyanAtGoogle

But unless all user-agents do the same thing it means that servers can't rely on particular client-side behavior which is a real bummer. Push is already hard enough to get right (in both clients and servers) it seems like adding more rough edges runs the risk of resulting in push being disabled/removed from some implementations. (I believe Brad Lassey from Chrome presented at IETF 102 data which suggested doing exactly this)

+1

I can see @martinthomson's view that push is feature that the server might use, and therefore that it can be complicated. But as the number of traps increases in the protocol, it becomes more likely that some stacks (or some combination of client- and server-side stacks) would have edge cases that lead to worse performance when push is used.

In HTTP/2, push is a feature that is often misused, leading to performance degradation, even though the protocol itself is designed correctly. The situation would become worse in HTTP/3, if we introduce uncertain behaviors to the protocol design (i.e., some clients might not block on DUPLICATE_PUSH).

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I'm seeing some people asking for changes, but I am happy with Marten's responses to those. I'm going to mark the associated issues as proposal-ready.

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The Retry packet can be discarded.

Closes #3271.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Nov 27 17:23:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C3120B24 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:23:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AWoC2obxtELM for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0DE6120B20 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:23:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:23:06 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574904186; bh=3rqV0tRIz6TUKJEa9duAR8H3yJDmlDoKrM2JXvhLUhU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kKpxPBJDya6eRdnVhwUNMEFdzY5oUU2950YKmcLRgNVbltEL9k/Zn300MNPDXJZVp M1HQRiUVqkVQIa3UfEaDouneSaJcc4sVYi8Nxrm921ITTZNDwqNzAncCfLOGmrv1AE gR0dn4doKOFSKCJbXxCb2VMuSCBbaILi0TvCq4MQ= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove handshake confirmed test for KeyUpdate (#3212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddf217aca09d_114a3fbe680cd968690128"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:23:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddf217aca09d_114a3fbe680cd968690128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr, I took another look at this and reviewed [the minutes](https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/master/ietf106/minutes.md#3212-remove-requirement-for-handshake-to-complete-before-keyupdate). I think that the outcome is no change. > An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having confirmed the handshake (Section 4.1.2). An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a subsequent key update prior unless it has received an acknowledgment for a packet that was sent protected with keys from the current key phase. The first sentence talks about the first key update. While we all agree that this is a stricter restriction than absolutely necessary, the definition we agreed for "confirmed" (with `HANDSHAKE_DONE`) is now distinct enough to warrant the special text in that case. As long as we are OK with that outcome, I don't think that this needs to change (@kazuho certainly argued for some way to hold the first key update back, which I think was derived from not wanting too many keys active at the same time). If we wanted to allow more aggressive updates, then I would propose the most aggressive option: > An endpoint MAY initiate the first key update immediately after 1-RTT keys are available. For the first key update, as a receiver has no difficulty distinguishing between the first two sets of 1-RTT packet protection keys, endpoints can trigger a key update with the first 1-RTT packets they send. The second sentence uses the word "subsequent" and so applies to all other key updates. That doesn't need to change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3212#issuecomment-559304265 ----==_mimepart_5ddf217aca09d_114a3fbe680cd968690128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekr, I took another look at this and reviewed the minutes. I think that the outcome is no change.

An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a key update prior to having confirmed
the handshake (Section 4.1.2). An endpoint MUST NOT initiate a
subsequent key update prior unless it has received an acknowledgment
for a packet that was sent protected with keys from the current key
phase.

The first sentence talks about the first key update. While we all agree that this is a stricter restriction than absolutely necessary, the definition we agreed for "confirmed" (with HANDSHAKE_DONE) is now distinct enough to warrant the special text in that case. As long as we are OK with that outcome, I don't think that this needs to change (@kazuho certainly argued for some way to hold the first key update back, which I think was derived from not wanting too many keys active at the same time).

If we wanted to allow more aggressive updates, then I would propose the most aggressive option:

An endpoint MAY initiate the first key update immediately after 1-RTT keys are available. For the first key update, as a receiver has no difficulty distinguishing between the first two sets of 1-RTT packet protection keys, endpoints can trigger a key update with the first 1-RTT packets they send.

The second sentence uses the word "subsequent" and so applies to all other key updates. That doesn't need to change.

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As long as we are OK with that outcome, I don't think that this needs to change (@kazuho certainly argued for some way to hold the first key update back, which I think was derived from not wanting too many keys active at the same time).

+1 to not changing status quo.

My argument was that there should be a gap between when an endpoint starts using 1-RTT keys and when it issues the first key update, based on the agreement is that the minimum number of keys that a endpoint is required to possess should be 2.

Unlike Initial or Handshake keys, 0-RTT key does not have a defined moment when it is to be discarded. Instead, it is discarded some time after exchange happens using the first set of 1-RTT keys, which IMO is exactly the same as how key update retires an old set of 1-RTT keys.

Based on this view, it is natural to hold two set of application traffic keys (regardless of the key being 0-RTT or 1-RTT), rotating them as necessary. As we have discussed and agreed, there needs to be a gap between each installation event of a new traffic key.

In status quo, the minimum gap between the use of the first 1-RTT key and the use of the second 1-RTT key is 1-RTT. The recommended gap between the following key update events are 3 PTO. Even though the size of the gaps are different, they both serve as a window at which the old key (could be either 0-RTT key or 1-RTT key) can coexist. This is fine.

My argument was that if we are to change the requirement, it would make sense to consider aligning the size of the recommended gap between the use of 1-RTT key and the use of the second 1-RTT key to 3 PTO.

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@kazuho, this appears to be addressed by #3145, like the others in this cluster. Is that right?

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After briefly discussing this with Gorry, I think that we concluded that advice about the frequency of flow control updates would help.

Where flow control limits broadly correspond to the congestion window size, those updates would need to be sent about as often as acknowledgments in order to ensure that flow control didn't stall unnecessarily. That would be the upper limit; larger flow control limits need proportionally fewer updates. If flow control limits are very large, updates could be far less frequent.

I don't think that we have an algorithm here, but it seems like this advice would go a long way to avoiding the worst problems.

There's a question then about where this advice goes. I am inclined to keep this in the transport doc as long as our response only extends to advice in the abstract.

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@martinthomson Yes. That's correct.

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----==_mimepart_5ddf38415277c_f003fe1ed2cd968710f0-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 19:04:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC0C120125 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q9KNWUcqxiD0 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD667120110 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAF52C117E for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574910268; bh=eUAsFotPY9sitgH0BtSQvSPT8/xmQcuYZF1M7dJGXqQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vf5gEk9vXG7sIZLYAhqQSTM/MXpvwB/vjYyAFdXR9XvQBiOFb99ZNQ0sfjxt5PWKr n1z5XYfBwlAmXCUq+B1uxhwUbMjGfawQsF0YwS7WPnbS3k5wlMjNHysgd/pj6oCT69 fHZ5/BubJcVTQWOrT9CCcTPNCF+gUdpLKP85YVpE= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:28 -0800 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add Contributors (#3278) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddf393cce553_67003ff53f0cd9641670d5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:04:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddf393cce553_67003ff53f0cd9641670d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The list of people who have made contributions is LONG. This issue will track creation of a list of contributors. This will list people's name properly. We're now allowed to use non-ASCII codepoints in names, we should exploit that fully. Names that are mostly Latin can use the native form; for people with non-Latin names (like @kazuho), we probably should include an anglicized version so that they remain recognizable to those of us not sufficiently versed in their native language. My current inclination is to avoid listing affiliations for a range of reasons, including the number of affiliation changes over the course of this process and the fact that this information was not always available. This isn't an open invitation to get your name listed. Nor is this an opportunity to get your paper cited. My view is that editors reserve the right to decide who is listed and that is not open to debate. I also hold that non-substantive contributions like fixing a typo - while greatly appreciated - does not in itself justify inclusion. All that said, we're probably likely to miss at least some of the many people who have helped out. Once the list is assembled, let the editors know if there are omissions or corrections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3278 ----==_mimepart_5ddf393cce553_67003ff53f0cd9641670d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The list of people who have made contributions is LONG. This issue will track creation of a list of contributors.

This will list people's name properly. We're now allowed to use non-ASCII codepoints in names, we should exploit that fully. Names that are mostly Latin can use the native form; for people with non-Latin names (like @kazuho), we probably should include an anglicized version so that they remain recognizable to those of us not sufficiently versed in their native language.

My current inclination is to avoid listing affiliations for a range of reasons, including the number of affiliation changes over the course of this process and the fact that this information was not always available.

This isn't an open invitation to get your name listed. Nor is this an opportunity to get your paper cited. My view is that editors reserve the right to decide who is listed and that is not open to debate. I also hold that non-substantive contributions like fixing a typo - while greatly appreciated - does not in itself justify inclusion. All that said, we're probably likely to miss at least some of the many people who have helped out. Once the list is assembled, let the editors know if there are omissions or corrections.

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Since I did this, I've realized that even this was an overly pessimistic outcome. By precomputing the XOR stream for CTR protection, it should be possible to make an even faster version of the protected form here.

I might be missing something, but I wonder if you can precompute the XOR streams for all the nonces (264 bits).

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----==_mimepart_5ddf3edc1c5a_4d323f8198ecd96c326595-- From nobody Wed Nov 27 19:34:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB4120116 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cDADF1WBCZ7L for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3E95120956 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DCBA06CD for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:34:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574912052; bh=ZpLJ1vsvJXP9RRxgSs32c3p57ZIw3965GsudOX3flOE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EzlzmbUPtSiiNCHRKQnywTlBpNpZckcYaLVezQTWEUu7Tk7ueItT86YvY/VIPILya dUJ7UF/6htazDpdGw9zy00MpEFQxoI3GBRLpmZUHqZVX3xtTOAO8YxkQTzb0PIf2L6 PpqyqeqkEx4Lp5JQC6FoQCoXMhBLg+m3NrGzTJ2E= Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:34:12 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Encrypting Retry token (#3274) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddf403488b2_1a073fdba26cd960407993"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:34:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddf403488b2_1a073fdba26cd960407993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Regarding the numbers, Martin, thank you for collecting them. I think that the benchmark confirms our expectation that the cost of running AES (based on fixed key, with different nonce) does not matter when a conventional CPU with AES offloading is used. Though I think the other question might be if we can require all the DDoS mitigation boxes to be capable of running AES fast. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3274#issuecomment-559328131 ----==_mimepart_5ddf403488b2_1a073fdba26cd960407993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Regarding the numbers, Martin, thank you for collecting them.

I think that the benchmark confirms our expectation that the cost of running AES (based on fixed key, with different nonce) does not matter when a conventional CPU with AES offloading is used.

Though I think the other question might be if we can require all the DDoS mitigation boxes to be capable of running AES fast.

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I might be missing something, but I wonder if you can precompute the XOR streams for all the nonces (264 possibilities).

Oh, and I realized again why I didn't do that yesterday: 264 lots of precomputation is a little too much :) Forget that bit. The numbers are basically correct.

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Here are the results from a different system (ignore absolute values and concentrate on relative values):

Measuring best of 1000 iterations
ghash:           5825976
aes_gcm_slow:   18750874
aes_gcm_fast:    8619132

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----==_mimepart_5ddf60a526d9a_191d3fcf6a0cd964344571-- From nobody Thu Nov 28 03:10:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6A112080B for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id thbwl5Kc7XbN for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37A701207FF for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1C86A083D for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574939423; bh=xAxT1BjPUWR12uunAM2rFnupLxvnMLSkhOe+2vrRLwM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AIzd1dEJ1UFhjMikh1Ia1j0PaG1pnLcQbMXJpW/WZ+DHzGMY1XEkF5NfzGae6FcIk skrrRLImplLYrbMbVuFvWMHxLzWK1UKkSoAKcChoH/TClGKxSyBAOzd1GC1j2owudf 8aO3e1O/lAGDvdHMO6GInj3Gge8XnK2feiQomHW8= Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:10:23 -0800 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] pto_count should be reset when dropping a packet number space (#3272) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ddfab1f7c878_1b8b3ff8a3acd95c13831aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:10:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ddfab1f7c878_1b8b3ff8a3acd95c13831aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I believe the simplest way to ensure QUIC isn't overly aggressive during the handshake and to encourage packet coalescing is to specify pto_count on a connection scope, similar to the rtt variables. I think we agree that PTO during handshake should be _as aggressive as_ after the handshake. However, I am starting to wonder if the current spec. actually works that way. Consider the case when the server responds to ClientHello. It would be sending Initial, Handshake, and 1-RTT packet at the same time. Then, when those QUIC packets gets lost, the loss timer would be invoked three times, resulting in pto_count set to 3. Is that the intended behavior? I think in such case, pto_count should become one, after the PTO timers of each epoch is triggered. Therefore, to me, the correct logic seems to be: * have pto_count for each epoch * every time the per-epoch PTO timer is triggered, increment the per-epoch pto_count by 1 * when an ACK is being received on *any* epoch, reset pto_count of all the epochs -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3272#issuecomment-559450820 ----==_mimepart_5ddfab1f7c878_1b8b3ff8a3acd95c13831aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe the simplest way to ensure QUIC isn't overly aggressive during the handshake and to encourage packet coalescing is to specify pto_count on a connection scope, similar to the rtt variables.

I think we agree that PTO during handshake should be as aggressive as after the handshake. However, I am starting to wonder if the current spec. actually works that way.

Consider the case when the server responds to ClientHello. It would be sending Initial, Handshake, and 1-RTT packet at the same time. Then, when those QUIC packets gets lost, the loss timer would be invoked three times, resulting in pto_count set to 3. Is that the intended behavior? I think in such case, pto_count should become one, after the PTO timers of each epoch is triggered.

Therefore, to me, the correct logic seems to be:

  • have pto_count for each epoch
  • every time the per-epoch PTO timer is triggered, increment the per-epoch pto_count by 1
  • when an ACK is being received on any epoch, reset pto_count of all the epochs

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Rabbit-hole warning. There isn't a real set of requirements anywhere for congestion control articulated any better than what's in 8085. Gorry and I looked through existing documents, realized that we're lacking here, leading to Gorry's draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-cc-04.

I don't think it makes sense to move text out of 8085 here. The entire point of a normative reference is so we don't do that. Is there any specific text that you have in mind, @ianswett?

The MUST here is so that an implementer is required to consider the UDP guidelines in 8085, but each one of those SHOULDs is evaluated individually. Simply saying SHOULD conform to 8085 is quite different than that.

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An implementation that does not use pacing +SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to We've already said that a sender MUST limit bursts to IW, so there's no reason to repeat that. I would argue this is a SHOULD-level requirement; MAY is strange, since that's really a permission and that's not what we're going after here. I'd suggest dropping the phrase "in order to limit bursts" --- "An implementation that does not use pacing SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to 2 * max_datagram_size per ACK frame received {{?RFC3465}}. " -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3232#discussion_r351739490 ----==_mimepart_5ddfb508acff8_75e13fdc6dacd9681103366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -769,7 +769,10 @@ Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial
 congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of
 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where
 max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection,
-not including UDP or IP overhead.
+not including UDP or IP overhead. An implementation that does not use pacing
+SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to

We've already said that a sender MUST limit bursts to IW, so there's no reason to repeat that. I would argue this is a SHOULD-level requirement; MAY is strange, since that's really a permission and that's not what we're going after here. I'd suggest dropping the phrase "in order to limit bursts" --- "An implementation that does not use pacing SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to 2 * max_datagram_size per ACK frame received {{?RFC3465}}. "

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@kazuho: you make a good point. I don't think this is orthogonal to the original issue, I think it's very much related. In addition to what you note, you would also need to use the per-epoch counter for determining how long to set the timer.

This is going to be imperfect or ugly or both. If we use a single pto_count, we'll have duplicate counts. If we use separate pto_counts, we'll have to reconcile different epochs having varying counts.

I think the behavior we're looking for is (i) use a separate pto_count per epoch, (ii) use the max of all pto_counts when setting the timer for any PN space, (iii) reset all pto_counts when an ACK is received for any epoch.

This isn't great, and it is imperfect -- you can end up being more aggressive than with a single count. But I think it's good enough.

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@janaiyengar

I think the behavior we're looking for is (i) use a separate pto_count per epoch, (ii) use the max of all pto_counts when setting the timer for any PN space, (iii) reset all pto_counts when an ACK is received for any epoch.

This isn't great, and it is imperfect -- you can end up being more aggressive than with a single count. But I think it's good enough.

The logic you describe sounds fine to me (apparently I missed (ii)), it would make the PTO behavior during handshake as aggressive as after the handshake. I cannot see when it would be more aggressive than that, and I think it's better than "imperfect but good enough."

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Commit: 1e0db50707bd7ec1179b03269aef26fcc3cd3b0a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e0db50707bd7ec1179b03269aef26fcc3cd3b0a Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-28 (Mon, 28 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- plural Commit: abfc00ca30ae3d44ba1f29db246b588178cc1127 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/abfc00ca30ae3d44ba1f29db246b588178cc1127 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- SHOULD backoff in decrypting, MUST backoff if not Commit: e36eb7614830dcff2fecb0c720fa29ede4643d03 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e36eb7614830dcff2fecb0c720fa29ede4643d03 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- separate paragraphs for each class of design Commit: a45ded27fd9b4da8658657c0be11ff8cc0d2639c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a45ded27fd9b4da8658657c0be11ff8cc0d2639c Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- rephrase based on @martinthomson's suggestion Commit: 15898c5c6ee3538bfe6b45a9e652ee0767c59c21 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/15898c5c6ee3538bfe6b45a9e652ee0767c59c21 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- merge the paragraphs (suggested by @ianswett) Commit: 175e7ddf52fd32aec9b24ad37214a35df99c8230 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/175e7ddf52fd32aec9b24ad37214a35df99c8230 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: 89a0171ca79c8846ea72749f819a4d52af64b824 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89a0171ca79c8846ea72749f819a4d52af64b824 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-29 (Tue, 29 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wordwrap Commit: 2f57c4c27e4042c475a87a39a6d2a5f4786f47ee https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2f57c4c27e4042c475a87a39a6d2a5f4786f47ee Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-29 (Fri, 29 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3157 from kazuho/kazuho/connection-close-must-backoff Backoff on CONNECTION_CLOSE Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/d7dd049f2a3f...2f57c4c27e40 From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:01:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED04B120963 for ; 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By giving the client a different connection ID to use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with more resources available for new connections. +If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an +invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token. Note that the text explicitly says "Retry token", so I don't see how this is a problem. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3107#discussion_r351951286 ----==_mimepart_5de06e362b538_34fa3ff6d5acd9681393225 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1641,6 +1641,17 @@ of connection establishment.  By giving the client a different connection ID to
 use, a server can cause the connection to be routed to a server instance with
 more resources available for new connections.
 
+If a server receives a client Initial that can be unprotected but contains an
+invalid Retry token, it knows the client will not accept another Retry token.

Note that the text explicitly says "Retry token", so I don't see how this is a problem.

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No need for any additional special processing rules. Closes #2475. Closes #3230. Commit: f20777786ad5b925f9b4be5e5bae7b4bcffba95f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f20777786ad5b925f9b4be5e5bae7b4bcffba95f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-29 (Fri, 29 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3231 from quicwg/bad-close-ok Bad CONNECTION_CLOSE isn't special Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/2f57c4c27e40...f20777786ad5 From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:03:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE3F120812 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:02:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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suggest user_canceled alert Commit: 96cc1e384b7c65767c7d9bd23130f23c30244b5f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96cc1e384b7c65767c7d9bd23130f23c30244b5f Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-30 (Wed, 30 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: c0b9c9307ddd840fb32bfc1c151040ab569b49fd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0b9c9307ddd840fb32bfc1c151040ab569b49fd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-10-30 (Wed, 30 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- an app that wishes to do so can Commit: eb30e2a0b1f7318a21a326a2481c8c278a902e7d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eb30e2a0b1f7318a21a326a2481c8c278a902e7d Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-30 (Wed, 30 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- application does not send a frame Commit: ce608aac8ea116d554c7fd32dc2199d215db9a24 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ce608aac8ea116d554c7fd32dc2199d215db9a24 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-10-31 (Thu, 31 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Co-Authored-By: Martin Thomson Commit: 408ba486db7c1fdea3d0049379a1a56934e1f78d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/408ba486db7c1fdea3d0049379a1a56934e1f78d Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2019-11-01 (Fri, 01 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- "the" @MikeBishop Commit: 48ca60d01e0c939f8243963edab5a86db5e4f6cd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48ca60d01e0c939f8243963edab5a86db5e4f6cd Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-11-29 (Fri, 29 Nov 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3164 from kazuho/kazuho/application-close-only-in-1rtt Forbid use of application-level close in Initial, Handshake packets Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6660526149fd...48ca60d01e0c From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:04:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5B7120812 for ; 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:04:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48512013B for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ObEHf30--MU for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AF041208EA for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574989460; bh=gUBRHZXUpwZXR+Oq7n/2/JCDNnJfe32Em7hRcsD2ptg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OYR0LBqntrG0fMUAmvQP4FFZGzFGGjMu1Ijmh/9seK2zY7ZUJlzeEmnuA51juWkSr 4iO5BbBG+yLlZ7uuVeuFT+gbQxRQf5r64bPQvBJ3TTBB3b0RPoxJvXiDSiBOEASLmG asjc2Vvsx0Yj/cnJu64ZTyJ1mhmmAeLpN/k4wG60= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Application close should be disallowed in Initial or Handshake (#3158) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5de06e94bad4d_3a513fcc04ecd9609709e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 01:04:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5de06e94bad4d_3a513fcc04ecd9609709e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3158 via #3164. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5de06e94f2328_38373fe39becd95c7503f7-- From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:04:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4125120812 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sF_p4rIyd6C9 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C600120801 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574989472; bh=RGx+uGGojMe9hnCZw9WOBswixuvhbZoxq7JphulyAIg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=rDzTkCyQUFbtJcueJrSc2G4VwhOZu5sK7AP0JbYEHq/ch9cIyBeeM1kcZuNGOHPJg 17Hj5UfTr8nvNcTlI6x2qquhf4JhHz3s1iO5MPGQrg7TXZD83ljoF57c/8LQQC6k1S VAWY8J+KAd/Bmun1kUgvJJ6ppN39uy7VqCSFYwJY= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 01:04:34 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/must-distinguish-tokens Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts From nobody Thu Nov 28 17:04:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CA4120898 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cCHSM331N5zM for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D54912013B for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:04:31 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1574989471; bh=6ld58eAQuA8PZrtqQVxMuorV8OA25aNfjpZHg9gimEM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=AiVd1v3eKmR8vs533FMlBR3b/WbTEkFA2JzXcw98KvOewhFbsoNKYTLl4T/q6aaBF bFJe92nW6L4d/NvhPCi7AtLAVaRfAUMB8QgQq7qjybiKCb++TktFZx0g9ITHKWDQQG pZ3UJtoR2vb17yya8buGB6iAL0uaUBH85Vqt5zQs= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 7bed0b: Mandatory distinction between token types Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 01:04:34 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 7bed0b465944def7aee9349ea1b61bad09ce8f86 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7bed0b465944def7aee9349ea1b61bad09ce8f86 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-10-22 (Tue, 22 Oct 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Mandatory distinction between token types Closes #3127. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -769,7 +769,10 @@ Implementations MUST either use pacing or limit such bursts to the initial
 congestion window, which is recommended to be the minimum of
 10 * max_datagram_size and max(2* max_datagram_size, 14720)), where
 max_datagram_size is the current maximum size of a datagram for the connection,
-not including UDP or IP overhead.
+not including UDP or IP overhead. An implementation that does not use pacing
+SHOULD limit the congestion window increase during slow start to

sounds good to me. Updated it

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -999,8 +999,10 @@ retired are considered active; any active connection ID can be used.
 An endpoint SHOULD ensure that its peer has a sufficient number of available and
 unused connection IDs.  Endpoints store received connection IDs for future use
 and advertise the number of connection IDs they are willing to store with the
-active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint SHOULD NOT provide
-more connection IDs than the peer's limit.
+active_connection_id_limit transport parameter.  An endpoint MUST NOT provide
+more connection IDs than the peer's limit.  An endpoint that receives more
+connection IDs than its advertised active_connection_id_limit MUST close the
+connection with an error of type CONNECTION_ID_LIMIT_ERROR.

@marten-seemann The examples that you quote are cases where there is no reasonable way to continue the connection. I don't think that excess number of NEW CONNECTION ID is in the same class -- the receiving peer could also just drop them without retiring them.

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