From nobody Mon Apr 1 13:01:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585BD1204D6; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 13:01:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Yingzhen Qu via Datatracker To: Cc: draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn.all@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Yingzhen Qu Message-ID: <155414886827.17190.2656925435521918458@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 13:01:08 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 20:01:09 -0000 Reviewer: Yingzhen Qu Review result: Has Nits Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn/ Reviewer: Yingzhen Qu Review Date: 1 April 2019 IETF LC End Date: 23 February 2019 Intended Status: Informational Summary: An informational RFC is being requested by this document. This document examines the applicability of PCE to ACTN framework. Comments: This document is clearly written and easy to understand. I have only a few nitty comments that should be considered prior to publication.. Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: No minor issues found. Nits: 1. Page 7, section 3, why is NETCONF not included? 2. page 11. “need PCE as a important function.” Should be “need PCE as an important function.” 3. page 13. The paths from A to C, why is B31-B34 not there? 4. page 14. Section “VN Protection”, “need to applied to” should be “need to be applied to” 5. page 14. “In case PNC generates an abstract topology to the MDSC, the PCInitiate/PCUpd messages from the MDSC to a PNC will contain a path with abstract nodes and links.” Should it be “from the MDSC to a PNC” or “from the MDSC to the PNC”? Thanks, Yingzhen From nobody Tue Apr 2 00:38:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6301E1201DF; Tue, 2 Apr 2019 00:38:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ines Robles via Datatracker To: Cc: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ines Robles Message-ID: <155419068227.6270.4463422400569037872@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 00:38:02 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 07:38:03 -0000 Reviewer: Ines Robles Review result: Has Nits The routing directorate will, on request from the working group chair, perform an “early” review of a draft before it is submitted for publication to the IESG. The early review can be performed at any time during the draft’s lifetime as a working group document. The purpose of the early review depends on the stage that the document has reached. As this document is in working group last call, my focus for the review was to determine whether the document is ready to be published. Please consider my comments along with the other working group last call comments. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Document: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06.txt Reviewer: Ines Robles Review Date: 02/04/2019 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well written and clear to understand. The draft is quite complete. The document defines a collection of common data types and groupings in YANG data modeling language. These derived common types and groupings are intended to be imported by modules that model Traffic Engineering (TE) configuration and state capabilities. I found some minor nits and have some minor questions, it would be nice if they could be addressed. Major issues: Not found Minor issues: Not found Nits/editorial comments: - NBMA could be expanded in pag 14 NBMA (Non-broadcast multiple-access network) or maybe added into Acronyms and Abbreviations section. Same for SF (pag 32), SD (Pag 33), APS (pag 35) and PM (pag 46) -In Pag. 43 identity oduc --> identity oducn ? - In pag 45, default forward --> default "forward" ? - Pag 58 ihe --> the , ranage --> range Questions: - In te-admin-status (pag. 12) is the status "unknown" not applicable in here? - In te-recovery-status (pag 17) the status reversion-succeeded woud be not necessary in this case, cause we have recovery-succeeded status available? - In pag 25, the lsp-state-type does not have a reference is that ok?, because it is used as base for other parameters. - In general, I see some parameters that do not have reference specified, it is because the reference is already specified in the base, for example, pag 25, objective-function-type has reference, but then of-minimize-load-path, of-maximize-residual-bandwith do not have it. Is it because by default is the one of the base, in this case RFC4657? or it is because they are defined in this document? But for example lsp-protection-type is used as base and does not have reference added. -In pag. 34, in the description for protection-external-commands, should include in the description the word "base", since it is used as base. - In pag. 55 the description "RFC 3209 and others", should be added additional rfcs, instead of "others"? Thanks for this document, Ines. From nobody Wed Apr 3 19:08:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9069612039E for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:08:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TI0xy9tXt1MF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC3BF1203A0 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw10.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.10]) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C40175CD8 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 20:08:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id Brnthyfh2uj2oBrnthvdPa; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:08:33 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: $(_cmae_reason DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Pcl4g3EJTxVqFL7KV8XqfkhhTkTzMC7/ECiVwf/9Rh0=; b=qKL7oF2a7+xs14j5JHzTO4+wyx 1vXsqcooqTiMVeQq4GUt3OfAJskVTs6oBjb2XeNJ8cJdrdZXgnU1SV+Lx+5m0j2rgJ7F06f9HdyCw NgiIR8VxUA0RhmeEKW131k87r; Received: from [172.56.35.109] (port=63648 helo=[IPV6:2607:fb90:78d:1a53:0:25:1809:9b01]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hBrns-001vqs-La; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:08:32 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: Andy Smith , , Andy Smith via Datatracker CC: , , Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:08:30 -0400 Message-ID: <169e617f2b8.27ce.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <155387449035.24968.5762515400738539072@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <155387449035.24968.5762515400738539072@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.18.2-1413 (build: 101800200) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.56.35.109 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1hBrns-001vqs-La X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([IPV6:2607:fb90:78d:1a53:0:25:1809:9b01]) [172.56.35.109]:63648 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 02:08:43 -0000 Thanks for the review and will do. Lou ---------- On March 29, 2019 11:48:43 AM Andy Smith via Datatracker wrote: > Reviewer: Andy Smith > Review result: Ready > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The > Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as > they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the review is > to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the > Routing Directorate, please see > ?http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would > be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call > comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by > updating the draft. > > Document: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension > Reviewer: Andy Smith > Review Date: 29 March 2019 > > Summary: > This document is well written and easy to understand. I see no reason it > cannot be published. > > Comments: > This document is well written and easy to understand. I see no reason it > cannot be published. > > Major Issues: > None > > Minor Issues: > None > > Nits: > It might be helpful to expand the acronym "TBA" in the requested Data Item Type > field. > > From nobody Wed Apr 3 19:32:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D131200FC for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:32:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dHz3a9P9O0h0 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5572C1200F1 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 19:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw11.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.11]) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E691AB1CD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 20:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id BrnuhnlZzVLCbBrnuhI9MS; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:08:34 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: $(_cmae_reason DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FmWu60jAeuQqQKKmuKEH8bGzQfAfZApS3fivv74vGz4=; b=WFiY9vBIDBvWHsVSLKCsThcf6f Oo2nBjF4lhMMJP+gQKaekYir87r8Ed6jz0bqboclD6VVnFRkso4D5rvbvjcL2p8AOIvIrUQtTnnDT N8ix5UeViHf+CtyP8TOhYIJ/1; Received: from [172.56.35.109] (port=63648 helo=[IPV6:2607:fb90:78d:1a53:0:25:1809:9b01]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hBrnu-001vqs-1A; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:08:34 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: , CC: , , Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: <169e61867e8.27ce.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <011a01d4e7b9$ed743910$c85cab30$@riw.us> References: <011a01d4e7b9$ed743910$c85cab30$@riw.us> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.18.2-1413 (build: 101800200) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.56.35.109 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1hBrnu-001vqs-1A X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([IPV6:2607:fb90:78d:1a53:0:25:1809:9b01]) [172.56.35.109]:63648 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 9 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-06.txt X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 02:32:15 -0000 Thanks Russ! ---------- On March 31, 2019 8:05:20 AM wrote: > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. > The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related > drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes > on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to > the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please > see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it > would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last > Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through > discussion or by updating the draft. > > Document: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-06.txt > Reviewer: Russ White > Review Date: 30 March 2019 > IETF LC End Date: 5 April 2019 > Intended Status: Standards Track > > Summary: > > No issues found. This document is ready for publication. > > Quality and Readibility: > > This draft is well written, easy to read, and easy to understand. > > Major Issues: > > None found. > > Minor Issues: > > None found. > > == > 😊 /r > > From nobody Fri Apr 5 07:35:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4911F120250; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 07:35:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VaAfHNZFsqG4; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from violet.upc.es (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F15681200EF; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 07:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from entelserver.upc.edu (entelserver.upc.es [147.83.39.4]) by violet.upc.es (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id x35EZ8O8021010; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 16:35:08 +0200 Received: from webmail.entel.upc.edu (webmail.entel.upc.edu [147.83.39.6]) by entelserver.upc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E5C1D53C1; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 16:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 131.111.5.141 by webmail.entel.upc.edu with HTTP; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 16:35:08 +0200 Message-ID: <227c462c8ece488e8aebbe2b9236e110.squirrel@webmail.entel.upc.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <1546871074.3699932.1627604240.346EB1B6@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 16:35:08 +0200 From: "Carles Gomez Montenegro" To: "Dan Frost" Cc: rtg-ads@ietf.org, draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time.all@ietf.org, rtg-dir@ietf.org, "Charlie Perkins" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21-1.fc14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.2 at violet X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: ACL matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (violet.upc.es [147.83.2.51]); Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:35:08 +0200 (CEST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time-03 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 14:35:18 -0000 Dear Dan, Thanks for reviewing draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time-03. Authors of draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time recently produced revision -04 of the draft, based on a number of comments received, including yours: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time/ Do you think -04 satisfies your previous concerns? Thanks, Shwetha and Carles (6lo co-chairs) > Hello Dan, > > We could go with the formats shown in > draft-ietf-ntp-packet-timestamps-05.txt, or a format derived from them > by scaling down to fewer bits.  Do we need to support both NTP and PTP > versions?  I think we should also continue to support ASN as a time unit. > > There has been discussion about whether or not the 'D' bit is needed, > and so far the balance of the discussion seems to indicate that it is > O.K. to keep it.  However, that could still change. > > Thanks much for your review! > > We will soon have a specific proposal for a new Deadline Time and > Origination Time (DT and OT) format based on discussion about the above > points.  It will somehow be derived from the formats shown in the NTP > draft document. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > On 1/7/2019 6:24 AM, Dan Frost wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. >> The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related >> drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and >> sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide >> assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing >> Directorate, please see >> ​https://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir >> >> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it >> would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF >> Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through >> discussion or by updating the draft. >> >> Document: draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time-03 >> Reviewer: Dan Frost >> Review Date: 2019-01-07 >> Intended Status: Standards Track >> >> Summary: >> >> I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be >> resolved before publication. >> >> Comments: >> >> This draft specifies a mechanism for including packet delivery deadline >> times, in the form of an elective 6LoWPAN routing header, for use in >> low-power and lossy networks with real-time requirements for end-to-end >> delay. Routers can use packet deadline times to make informed scheduling >> decisions or discard overdue packets. The timing metadata can also be >> useful for performance monitoring and diagnostics. >> >> The draft is, for the most part, clear, and the writing quality is good. >> >> Major Issues: >> >> No major issues found. >> >> Minor Issues: >> >> The main issue I see with the spec is the way timestamp formats are >> specified with the TU (time units) field. The possible values for this >> field include "seconds" and "microseconds". This is unusual, >> particularly in combination with the EXP field, which leads to some time >> values having multiple representations. And when representing absolute >> timestamps, we'd usually use well-known formats like NTP or IEEE 1588. >> The draft probably needs to rework the timestamp representation options >> along these lines, including specifying a single default format for >> interoperability (we did this in RFC 6374, for example). An important >> consideration here is the typical capabilities of the kinds of devices >> expected to implement this spec; many devices only have good support for >> one standard timestamp format. Industrial devices, a specfiic target of >> this spec, usually expect IEEE 1588. >> >> Making the Origination Time non-optional and specifying the Deadline >> Time as a delta could also be considered. >> >> Is the D flag (must drop if deadline exceeded) really necessary? Should >> the semantics not just be to drop the overdue packet if there's >> congestion, and forward it otherwise? >> >> Nits: >> >> Section 4: s/Whenever the packets crosses into a network/Whenever a >> packet crosses into a network/ >> >> Cheers, >> -d >> > From nobody Fri Apr 5 17:55:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B22B12028F for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 17:55:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jLV6B6DfLeQl for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ed1-x532.google.com (mail-ed1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98C4F120278 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x532.google.com with SMTP id d11so6967323edp.11 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tFSm0FUMEYwyLlg1gh91Y4H9f2ThuPX7jazd6FamHpM=; b=tP7e+u/2av9VNmsbNmHM/9Xcc8LczB5HBaC6A/ipYwMmeRM0JUW5zj1VuP5wX1pVdT 6GRr/OZe/S8v0wWtxo+Q6N5c0UBorsOuitOZqyDL3DyIZK6ZXBRZt/6UH3iDbD2+RZVW MimnHg9pGRFCuGwaeUfKWUT3mE6PowQRlmMtf30fgil7/3TNR0aXQbFiNpyHn2yM6mxe auqDtyJNljbZN1k7HYEmzWN+h3uDsuLo1WoPJE4uHihnS31sv/Hq01IGp64w5uA3bzvr 8G4BCPUX+nceMhOCQETG6Eozcy/76VXZOLT+qHjyKVLDD3jPOSoXcp4UN3PqlIR5M7ip 2YWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tFSm0FUMEYwyLlg1gh91Y4H9f2ThuPX7jazd6FamHpM=; b=Q8T8jCDW7rI3RPteu5XC3V0eF1gQvXVu2fgyA3PH6oOkG6YQDekzlSRFQJNsgqmnbe yeZSuDzKF4qjI/uz5MopvNqt8Fwx3Ty9lju+tBxItrmFszinHapyOMKf56CTSU49TpBv 4LhA+TMYTZU6v9JtwYwdOd74zScDrg29j7Ec5UTuOhNnqKg+TnD9hVcOt1DYZozy8AH7 haL3pRZSDr3oyqj4Vk0fYsZ/PMMjX1yvifcZAJGSonsEyIxRlQL9Og1roheLsvPzgp5S Uiz+p5tbPWnIsz2Wk66ELR9FnbVMQk/yt/xXKR1LivNUDNswYy/VMkcwcYJ9rw8peEgh C96w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVuT9cvaLOhwraYabsS2gx/66DOi1WJcsMzmXoN5p2EW59Yln0F U6BuiKnm+DQLJOnauJcEP8+FbEqECU8tkco4Vb9OcQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqywKQEqzKDdCoA40Ksiq8GBxmf14JndhgsxM0Dd1+qrYYBvmI/d9Vtg7QlkON9s+Lrg5vjh7dqI7AWagQIAs2g= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6c0d:: with SMTP id j13mr8989688ejr.249.1554512128089; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 17:55:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stig Venaas Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 17:55:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: "" Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-association-group.all@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:55:32 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08.txt Reviewer: Stig Venaas Review Date: April 5th 2019 IETF LC End Date: April 5th 2019 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: The document is in good shape and fairly easy to read. There are some grammar errors and some language that could be improved somewhat. I'm sure the RFC editor will help with that, but I've added some comments below. Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: No minor issues found. Nits: In Introduction first paragraph Typo: Generalzied In section 3.2: can either be dependent or independent. The SVEC object identify the Should be identifies ^^^^^^^^ The motivation behind the association group defined in this document and the SVEC object are quite different, though some use case may overlap. The PCEP extensions that defines new association type should clarify the relationship between SVEC object and association type, if any. A few issues here. Perhaps it should be The motivation behind the association group defined in this document and the SVEC object are quite different, though some use cases may overlap. PCEP extensions that define a new association type should clarify the relationship between the SVEC object and the association type, if any. In section 3.3: For the operator-configured association, the association parameters such as the association identifier, association type, as well as the association source IP address is manually configured by the operator. The last line should perhaps be association source IP address, are manually configured by the operator. Right below: This line the association identifier is allocated dynamically by the PCEP should perhaps be the association identifier, are allocated dynamically by the PCEP Also, right below: operator-configured association are known to the PCEP peer before Should be "is known". In this paragraph: The associations are properties of the LSP and thus could be stored in the LSP state database. The dynamic association exist as long as the LSP state. In case of PCEP session termination, the LSP state clean-up MUST also take care of associations. the sentence "The dynamic association exist as long as the LSP state." should perhaps be "The dynamic association exists as long as the LSP state exists"? In 3.4: A range of association identifier for each Association type identifiers ^^^^^ In 6.1: association type are defined in separate documents. ^^^^^^^^^ In 6.3.1: ::= [] Should there be a space here? ^^^^^ In 6.3.2: ::= [] Space here? ^^^^^ In 6.3.3 ::=[] Space here? ^^^^^ In 6.4: attached to LSP state and the association exist till there is an exists ^^^^^^^ in [RFC5440]. If a PCEP speaker understand the ASSOCIATION object understands ^^^^^^^^^^^ a new associations, it MUST return a PCErr message with Error-Type 26 ^^^^^^^^^^^ In 7.2: 31 (Early Extended Association Id [This.I-D] I think it should say ID ^^^^ If you agree, then this should also be fixed in the IANA registry. It currently says Id. In 7.4: There are no association type specified in this document, future types ^^^^^^ Regards, Stig From nobody Sat Apr 6 05:34:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ED7120049; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-EofQ9Yyuwf; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x136.google.com (mail-it1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4173012001A; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x136.google.com with SMTP id k64so13905983itb.5; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 05:33:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=v6xP8xj4Ek9na4aaXguRURwXd0/T9XAg2F5D3j3SWP4=; b=JnIiRg7GZW7PtVHYpymUyxU/noLRf9ZfXGHZSbwYjNgTVK0euSLta5r5FRmIdqRAcd 3YJdcmtmluJkh/jY9DIZEm+Mx6mVw1hOtLvCxv6uMA79ejo/4cLfQboX2plaD/kA49G0 WT635AZMFfc5FPplrYTURVOyeCAbDc8yG/S3SPWgkWQW+sLWKxtffmAQiIsF6OrnvVHP t11lwFFdZg8ih//eEgyz66RBN5jFJKe4wwRU7UYsyljkfku6O+OM9ufvJqHe9tNY37/N 8BiHLMkMNL/o9wmZpFPQ1rQp1wKl4k48/lX7IWSuxqg2cLQNglfmUt1f9Izi9WIZSI2t ltwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=v6xP8xj4Ek9na4aaXguRURwXd0/T9XAg2F5D3j3SWP4=; b=okvxHmzXIyDCRUZv356Pgz/54C+4GgIpNKZVGXKMSHq/Qjcn1ayxcBWlye/3UdNBYl 5cREN3qkFvNtrKw/a6UFEr2exVScxkP7EBaxTExnYBbl9/yu6E4VskKh44wgQsXZBA12 9b1pwAcB0EyONGKar7GJ+MTxZHZl4iEtXWltYg0X2nW4zYRQ5QTXuKfHKS4LueeYVIva KqEjfkmBLOtL2dZJehTgharFOncf+3aY0Zxuqinrp9LvW/b8kI+gmbIrVH8nRkgfZUPA TRWod6ZFe+7uHTMuXL5yQoB580ABLm0+/W6SHpRvz79+vQpYrL4nFjKj689+ZTDb2oth /S0w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXmM+Lp7jzTztfdS+35DeBiGpEhtUEPVteOjXFIz/SSb2gAq3vp WbqxLpq7oNJ5/xeienk4QfcWddhVZwxyqJcHdXk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwpalwH/09y+pr6WBQHzdy0oDK3/ddWfuWUBo3QkrL6PEAqlrykjJYJlubMXyoHL6Ky+RuU9CLsXZKyqhefA9g= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1789:: with SMTP id 131mr13269538ith.36.1554554038413; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 05:33:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 18:03:22 +0530 Message-ID: To: Stig Venaas Cc: "" , rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-association-group.all@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-pce-association-group-08 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 12:34:01 -0000 Hi Stig, Thank you for your review, especially for providing clear suggestions to fix the text, much appreciated! I have fixed them all, except - > In 6.3.1: > ::= [] > Should there be a space here? ^^^^^ > > In 6.3.2: > ::= [] > Space here? ^^^^^ > > In 6.3.3 > ::=[] > Space here? ^^^^^ > While I agree the space would have been nice, but keeping it consistent with existing PCEP RFCs (where the space is not used, such as RFC8231, RFC5440) is also important. Thus I am leaving this as it is. See diff - https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-association-group-09 Regards, Dhruv From nobody Sat Apr 6 05:59:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC80120026; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:59:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rkp7FjpHLkVa; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x133.google.com (mail-it1-x133.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C083F12008C; Sat, 6 Apr 2019 05:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x133.google.com with SMTP id v8so13064807itf.0; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 05:59:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fWWOmk16zmIYaFUYDyATSC/ovO3oXu2JqKCnC6xiD5Q=; b=hQYcjew9M2AzI7+cne4n8TXDTKvdHUzNEQf7H2xsu8u5Q0iKHGHi00s/2uFSkmz7tK KQgQ3/AYjeLqOFlB7Pb+QhZvnoAKJS4AjRRBQ7ksTRh9fg7/bzFjDCb7ZXQZ6WoPSIOj IsRh5vi4nXzp1WdpLmwIavGmOQJ6cd68vsGG67aVpQZqqZiSZ6vYRaK28QQP16XnH4P7 Xts2wqEXeE8diedgRkZTpPozJmpzXA+2/iDVuJWexbygPYbvWCEirL8mynM1Guu/bFdD X1hNF2mIi4hODOH/B4Z7QPKndjV6//Fy0kurFvVLQk9vEFjEn1X3R4LiDHHzdfI8J2u3 0ciw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fWWOmk16zmIYaFUYDyATSC/ovO3oXu2JqKCnC6xiD5Q=; b=WW2qal2d36+9LfQOBs4BpOtUFoz6i8DXKzTnR1vw4Q7M62KBiFkqGFeMGx/G0pcOJl y2JZ4e4q2Yv9Pa9C7J2Es9nZ6XexTvD0l3LpIYHMOQkMQA8gzqMsxk9YAkgVX7M1lbbf w25zyoHQaLFw8yQnj0ULjycVaA9N3A4lMkSynTnLUt6V1yoGkLRD2472WXDmsk3mFfyb IDdLkVGFEvdnWO0qmdoECKolOdYdmCaIGXniWTs+xR0OnfhMLZIxVzuSPnOflaHYO6c3 ETK3eh91m8H9byNpzHH1F4H+9uxRl4eeKr+U0XdpaH1uTydylDGVZW4KNKetiqfsP7aB NUUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVMdrhHlZfnNQpWXyx1277OfbbebN2KZ1W3k3Sc3tK9lXeW2uXh YoegJBt+prEBnvt2fQlkPBi1VKp/FtOLsa7V4tQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw8HFt6XOXAWeI3ux40Zqs0IDSzzoxlMHZrrQ1vjCw2881c/b4bjHbbC9fBXcvfDAF4RxkObkRvv4YZzJiWIUY= X-Received: by 2002:a24:58c:: with SMTP id 134mr975961itl.103.1554555540001; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 05:59:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <155414886827.17190.2656925435521918458@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <155414886827.17190.2656925435521918458@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 18:28:24 +0530 Message-ID: To: Yingzhen Qu Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn.all@ietf.org, pce@ietf.org, rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-10 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 12:59:06 -0000 Hi Yingzhen, Thanks for your review. I have done the fix. Regarding your last comment - > 5. page 14. > =E2=80=9CIn case PNC generates an abstract topology to the MDSC, the > PCInitiate/PCUpd messages from the MDSC to a PNC will contain a > path with abstract nodes and links.=E2=80=9D > Should it be =E2=80=9Cfrom the MDSC to a PNC=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cfrom t= he MDSC to the PNC=E2=80=9D? > "From the MDSC to a PNC" reads fine to me, as there are multiple PNCs involved (one of many rule for the use of a/an)! See diff - https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-pce-applicability= -actn-11 Thanks! 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of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:22:49 -0000 --000000000000b84c1b05862f7a6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tarek, Thank you, I agree with your comments. Best regards, Ines. On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 3:23 AM Tarek Saad wrote: > Hi Ines, > > Thank you very much for the detailed review and comments. > We've uploaded new versions of the draft that will address them (latest > version -08). > Diff that shows changes is @ > https://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ie= tf.org/id/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06.txt&url2=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.or= g/id/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-08.txt > > Please see inline for further responses and do let us know if there are > further comments. > > =EF=BB=BFOn 4/2/19, 3:39 AM, "Teas on behalf of Ines Robles via Datatrack= er" < > teas-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > Reviewer: Ines Robles > Review result: Has Nits > > The routing directorate will, on request from the working group chair= , > perform > an =E2=80=9Cearly=E2=80=9D review of a draft before it is submitted f= or publication to > the > IESG. The early review can be performed at any time during the draft= =E2=80=99s > lifetime > as a working group document. The purpose of the early review depends > on the > stage that the document has reached. > > As this document is in working group last call, my focus for the > review was to > determine whether the document is ready to be published. Please > consider my > comments along with the other working group last call comments. > > For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see > =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Document: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06.txt > Reviewer: Ines Robles > Review Date: 02/04/2019 > Intended Status: Standards Track > > Summary: > > I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well writte= n > and > clear to understand. The draft is quite complete. > > The document defines a collection of common data types and groupings > in YANG > data modeling language. These derived common types and groupings are > intended > to be imported by modules that model Traffic Engineering (TE) > configuration and > state capabilities. > > I found some minor nits and have some minor questions, it would be > nice if they > could be addressed. > > Major issues: Not found > > Minor issues: Not found > > Nits/editorial comments: > > - NBMA could be expanded in pag 14 NBMA (Non-broadcast multiple-acce= ss > network) or maybe added into Acronyms and Abbreviations section. Same > for SF > (pag 32), SD (Pag 33), APS (pag 35) and PM (pag 46) > [TS]: Added into acronyms, and expanded when necessary. > > -In Pag. 43 identity oduc --> identity oducn ? > [TS]: fixed. > > - In pag 45, default forward --> default "forward" ? > [TS]: fixed. > > - Pag 58 ihe --> the , ranage --> range > [TS]: fixed. > > Questions: > > - In te-admin-status (pag. 12) is the status "unknown" not applicable > in here? > [TS]: We think it's useful so to identify a status that is not explicitly > defined. We have added it. > > - In te-recovery-status (pag 17) the status reversion-succeeded woud > be not > necessary in this case, cause we have recovery-succeeded status > available? > [TS]: We have added reversion-succeeded to explicitly indicate > successful completion of reversion. > > - In pag 25, the lsp-state-type does not have a reference is that ok?= , > because > it is used as base for other parameters. > [TS]: Yes, in general the intention was the derived from base indentities > would be explicitly referenced. > > - In general, I see some parameters that do not have reference > specified, it is > because the reference is already specified in the base, for example, > pag 25, > objective-function-type has reference, but then of-minimize-load-path= , > of-maximize-residual-bandwith do not have it. Is it because by defaul= t > is the > one of the base, in this case RFC4657? or it is because they are > defined in > this document? But for example lsp-protection-type is used as base an= d > does not > have reference added. > [TS]: Yes, as mentioned earlier, identities derived would be explicitly > referenced. That said, I went ahead and made sure missing references are > added. > > -In pag. 34, in the description for protection-external-commands, > should > include in the description the word "base", since it is used as base. > [TS]: addressed as per suggestion. > > - In pag. 55 the description "RFC 3209 and others", should be added > additional > rfcs, instead of "others"? > [TS]: yes, replaced others by the intended RFCs. > > Regards, > Tarek > > Thanks for this document, > > Ines. > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > --000000000000b84c1b05862f7a6c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=C2=A0Tarek,

Thank you, I agree with = your comments.

Best regards,

<= div>Ines.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 3:23 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ines,

Thank you very much for the detailed review and comments.
We've uploaded new versions of the draft that will address them (latest= version -08).
Diff that shows changes is @ https://tools.ietf.org/tools= /rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-teas-yang= -te-types-06.txt&url2=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-teas-yang-= te-types-08.txt

Please see inline for further responses and do let us know if there are fur= ther comments.

=EF=BB=BFOn 4/2/19, 3:39 AM, "Teas on behalf of Ines Robles via Datatr= acker" <= teas-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reviewer: Ines Robles
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Review result: Has Nits

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The routing directorate will, on request from the working gro= up chair, perform
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 an =E2=80=9Cearly=E2=80=9D review of a draft before it is sub= mitted for publication to the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG. The early review can be performed at any time during th= e draft=E2=80=99s lifetime
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as a working group document. The purpose of the early review = depends on the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 stage that the document has reached.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As this document is in working group last call, my focus for = the review was to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 determine whether the document is ready to be published. Plea= se consider my
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 comments along with the other working group last call comment= s.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For more information about the Routing Directorate, please se= e
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.or= g/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Document: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-06.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reviewer: Ines Robles
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Review Date: 02/04/2019
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Intended Status: Standards Track

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Summary:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I believe the draft is technically good. This document is wel= l written and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clear to understand. The draft is quite complete.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The document defines a collection of common data types and gr= oupings in YANG
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 data modeling language. These derived common types and groupi= ngs are intended
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to be imported by modules that model Traffic Engineering (TE)= configuration and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 state capabilities.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I found some minor nits and have some minor questions, it wou= ld be nice if they
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 could be addressed.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Major issues: Not found

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Minor issues: Not found

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Nits/editorial comments:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - NBMA could be expanded in pag 14=C2=A0 NBMA (Non-broadcast = multiple-access
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 network) or maybe added into Acronyms and Abbreviations secti= on. Same for SF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (pag 32), SD (Pag 33), APS (pag 35) and PM (pag 46)
[TS]: Added into acronyms, and expanded when necessary.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -In Pag. 43 identity oduc --> identity oducn ?
[TS]: fixed.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In pag 45, default forward --> default "forward&quo= t; ?
[TS]: fixed.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Pag 58 ihe --> the=C2=A0 , ranage --> range
[TS]: fixed.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Questions:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In te-admin-status (pag. 12) is the status "unknown&qu= ot; not applicable in here?
[TS]: We think it's useful so to identify a status that is not explicit= ly defined. We have added it.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In te-recovery-status (pag 17)=C2=A0 the status reversion-s= ucceeded woud be not
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 necessary in this case, cause we have recovery-succeeded stat= us available?
[TS]: We have added reversion-succeeded to explicitly indicate successful= =C2=A0completion of reversion.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In pag 25, the lsp-state-type does not have a reference is = that ok?, because
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 it is used as base for other parameters.
[TS]: Yes, in general the intention was the derived from base indentities w= ould be explicitly referenced.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In general, I see some parameters that do not have referenc= e specified, it is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 because the reference is already specified in the base, for e= xample, pag 25,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 objective-function-type has reference, but then of-minimize-l= oad-path,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 of-maximize-residual-bandwith do not have it. Is it because b= y default is the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 one of the base, in this case RFC4657? or it is because they = are defined in
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document? But for example lsp-protection-type is used as= base and does not
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 have reference added.
[TS]: Yes, as mentioned earlier, identities derived would be explicitly ref= erenced. That said, I went ahead and made sure missing references are added= .

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -In pag. 34, in the description for protection-external-comma= nds, should
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 include in the description the word "base", since i= t is used as base.
[TS]: addressed as per suggestion.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - In pag. 55 the description "RFC 3209 and others",= should be added additional
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rfcs, instead of "others"?
[TS]: yes, replaced others by the intended RFCs.

Regards,
Tarek

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks for this document,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ines.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teas mailing list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teas@ietf.= org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas

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The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-05 Reviewer: Julien Meuric Review Date: April 10, 2019 Intended Status: Proposed Standard *Summary:* I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication. *Comments:* The document is well written and self consistent. The clear problem statement and the solution's "spirit" description make the detailed behavior convenient to follow. The main issue is about the use of 2119 language: only 4 MUSTs are used (2 of them being similar), far too many SHOULDs. *Major Issues:* No major issues found. *Minor Issues:* Unless I missed an assumption somewhere, I think that, for a Standards Track document, many of the existing SHOULDs should actually be MUSTs. It is a bit odd to read a document trying to be exhaustive about the possible situations and backward compatibility consideration (nice work!) while only requiring optional behaviors. *Nits:* ------ Global --- - Two nits are repeated along the full document and need to be fixed:   * Most of the time, PATH and RESV messages are fully capitalized while PathErr, PathTear, ResvTear... are not. Replacing them by Path/Resv would bring consistency.   * When it comes to nodes or messages names, many definite/indefinite articles (the/a) are missing. I have spotted some of them but got lazy... ------ Header --- - Was RFC 8370 considered to be added to the updated document list? The specification is clearly about combining RFC 4090 and 8370. - s/Refresh Interval Independent/Refresh-Interval Independent/ ------ Abstract --- - s/LSP related states/LSP-related states/  [x2] - LSP is not expanded on 1st use (only in introduction), it may be worth to expand earlier. - s/fast reroute (FRR)/Fast ReRoute (FRR)/ - s/Refresh-interval/Refresh-Interval/  [for consistency] ------ 1. Introduction --- - s/label switched path (LSP)/Label Switched Path (LSP)/ - s/Standard RSVP/Base RSVP/  [x2] - OLD    eliminate facility backup protection    dependency on refresh timeouts for stale state cleanup including the    cleanup for facility backup protection.   NEW    eliminate facility backup protection    dependency on refresh timeouts for stale state cleanup. ------ 2. Terminology --- - The terms Nhop and NNhop, extensively used, are missing. - Adding "B-SFRR-Ready" may be considered. - The link between "Merge Point" and "MP" is only implicit: MP and PLR deserve to be added as defined terms. - s/Link-protecting/Link-Protecting/ - s/Node-protecting/Node-Protecting/ ------ 3. Problem Description --- - s/Figure 1, consider/Figure 1, let us consider/ - s/Also assume/Also let us assume/ - s/A is the Point of Local Repair (PLR) and C is Node Protecting Merge Point (NP-MP)/A is the PLR and C is the NP-MP/ - s/D is the Link Protecting Merge Point (LP-MP)/D is the LP-MP/ - s/are refreshed has failed/are refreshed, has failed/ - s/send tear down message/send a tear down message/ - s/as a Merge Point/as an MP/ - s/receive PathTear/receive a PathTear/ - Sentences #2 and #3 in the bullet at the top of page 7 seem to duplicate the bullet at the bottom of page 6. This need to be skimmed (I personally prefer the wording of the 2nd bullet over the 1st one, including s/send PathTear/send a PathTear/). ------ 4. Solution Aspects --- - s/send tear down message/send a tear down message/  [x2] ------ 4.1. --- - s/RFC 4090/[RFC4090]/  [x4, excluding section title] ------ 4.2. --- - s/RFC 4090/[RFC4090]/ - OLD       a LP-bypass LSP to Nhop node avoiding only the link that       protected LSP takes to reach Nhop   NEW       an LP-bypass LSP to the Nhop node avoiding only the link that       the protected LSP takes to reach the Nhop. - OLD       a LP-bypass LSP to Nhop node avoiding the link that       protected LSP takes to reach Nhop   NEW       an LP-bypass LSP to the Nhop node avoiding the link that       the protected LSP takes to reach the Nhop. - s/RFC 8370/[RFC8370]/ - OLD      included RRO object carried in RESV message.      If the MP has not included Node-ID sub-object in RESV RRO    NEW      included in the RRO object carried in the Resv message.      If the MP has not included a Node-ID sub-object in the Resv RRO - s/PATH message/Path message/  [x2] - s/in CAPABILITY object/in the CAPABILITY object/  [x2] - OLD     then the PLR SHOULD include B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association object and triggers PATH message   NEW     then [I-D.ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte] applies: the PLR SHOULD include a B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association object and triggers a Path message - s/PATH message/Path message/ - s/ordering rules object/object ordering rules/ - s/RFC 4090/[RFC4090]/ - s/RFC 8370/[RFC8370]/ - s/sub-object in the RRO object carried in the RESV message/sub-object of the RRO object carried in the Resv message/ - s/included Node-ID sub-object in the RRO object carried in PATH message/included a Node-ID sub-object in the RRO object carried in the Path message/ - s/The node should determine whether the incoming PATH messages contains B-SFRR-Ready/A node receiving Path messages should determine whether they contain a B-SFRR-Ready/ - s/followed by implementations supporting/followed by the implementations supporting/ - s/"Remote" state on MP/"Remote" State on MP/ - OLD     The "remote" state is identical to the protected LSP path state except for the difference in RSVP_HOP object.   NEW     The only difference between the "remote" path state and the LSP path state is in the RSVP_HOP object. - s/in "remote" Path state/in the "remote" path state/ - s/MP.../The MP.../  [x4] - s/Node signaling/The node signaling/ - s/a PATH with/a Path message with/ - s/in PATH RRO/in the Path RRO/ - s/receives PathTear/receives a PathTear message - s/on the Ingress or created from a PATH message from/on the ingress or created by a Path message from/ - s/from PLR/from the PLR/ - s/called "Remote PathTear"/called "Remote" PathTear/ ------ 4.3. --- - s/Immediate node failures/Node failures/ - s/SHOULD send Conditional PathTear/SHOULD send a "Conditional PathTear" downstream/ - s/Node-ID signaling/The Node-ID signaling/ - s/MP receives normal or "Remote" PathTear for PSB/The MP receives a normal or "Remote" PathTear for its PSB/  [x3] - s/MP receives ResvTear RSB/The MP receives a ResvTear for its RSB/  [x3] - s/Remote Node-ID/The remote Node-ID/  [x2] - s/Receiving Conditional PathTear/Receiving a Conditional PathTear/ - s/Figure 1, assume/Figure 1, we assume/ - s/PATH/Path/  [x5] - s/MP receives normal or "Remote" PathTear for PSB/The MP receives a normal or "Remote" PathTear for its PSB/  [x2] - s/MP receives ResvTear RSB/The MP receives a ResvTear for its RSB/  [x2] ------ 4.4. --- - s/Conditional Path Tear/Conditional PathTear/  [x3] - s/Ingress has/The ingress has/ - s/and PathTear is not received/and no PathTear is received/ - Section 4.4.2:   * need "a/the" before most (conditional/normal) PathTears   * s/included B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association/included the B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association/   * s/PATH/a Path message/   * should consider upgrading some SHOULDs into MUST. - s/CONDITIONS object/CONDITIONS Object/ - s/called as "CONDITIONS" object that/called "CONDITIONS" object, that/ - "Length, Class, C-type, M bit" would better be followed  by ":" and drop the trailing carriage return (like the Terminology section). - s/If M-bit is set/If the M bit is set/  [x2] - s/processed based on the condition if the receiver router is a Merge Point or not./processed according to the receiver router role, i.e. if it is an MP or not./ - s/as normal PathTear message./as a normal PathTear message./ - The M bit is newly defined: is there any reason not to specify it using MUSTs? ------ 4.5. --- - s/the Ingress wants/the ingress wants/ - s/in "remote" PathTear message/in the "Remote" PathTear message/ - s/Consider node C in example topology (Figure 1) has/Let us consider that node C, in the example topology (Figure 1), has/ - s/sends normal PathTear/send a normal PathTear/ - s/Assume B/Let us assume that B/ - s/send "remote" PathTear/sends a "Remote" PathTear/ - s/deletes PSB and RSB states/deletes the PSB and RSB states/ - s/the remote PathTear and delete PSB and RSB states/the "Remote" PathTear and delete the PSB and RSB states/ - s/a router that/a PLR that/ - s/in RESV message, and if the RRO change indicates that/in the Resv message indicating that/ - s/send "Remote" PathTear/send a "Remote" PathTear/ - s/assume/let us assume/ - s/NP-MP for A/NP-MP for PLR A/ - s/trigger RESV/trigger a Resv/ - s/in RESV/in the Resv/ - s/the RESV with/the Resv with/ - s/send "Remote" PathTear/send a "Remote" PathTear/ - s/send normal PathTear/send a normal PathTear/ - s/both PSB and RSB states corresponding/both the PSB and the RSB states corresponding/ - s/Phop Link failure/Phop Link Failure/ - s/send normal PathTear and delete both PSB and RSB states corresponding/send a normal PathTear and delete both the PSB and the RSB states corresponding/ - s/send normal PathTear and delete PSB and RSB states corresponding/send a normal PathTear and delete the PSB and RSB states corresponding/ - s/Consider B-C/Let us consider that B-C/ - s/send PathErr or ResvTear/send a PathErr nor a ResvTear/ - s/because backup LSP/because the backup LSP/ - s/send normal PathTear/send a normal PathTear/ - s/on receiving PathTear/when receiving a PathTear/ - s/reject backup LSP PATH and send PathErr/reject the backup LSP Path and send a PathErr/ ------ 4.6. --- - s/have been proposed in/have been defined in/ - s/and remote PathTear/and "Remote" PathTear/ - s/should support/need to support/  [unless moving to 2119 language] - s/in CAPABILITY object/in the CAPABILITY object/ - s/initiate remote Node-ID/initiate a remote Node-ID/ - s/with NNhop/with its NNhop/ - s/set RI-RSVP flag in CAPABILITY object/set the RI-RSVP flag in the CAPABILITY object/ - s/that NNhop/that the NNhop/ - s/PPhop/the PPhop/  [x3] - s/in PATH/in its Path messages/ - s/set RI-RSVP flag in CAPABILITY object/set the RI-RSVP flag in the CAPABILITY object/ - s/for backward compatibility/for Backward Compatibility/ - s/in TIME_VALUES object carried in PATH to default short refresh default value/in the TIME_VALUES object carried in the Path message to a default short refresh value/ - s/in TIME_VALUES object carried in PATH to a short refresh default value/in the TIME_VALUES object carried in the Path message to a default short refresh value/ - s/send remote PathTear or/send any "Remote" PathTear nor/ - s/trigger PATH/trigger a Path message./ - s/send Conditional PathTear/send a Conditional PathTear/ - s/in TIME_VALUES object carried in RESV to default short refresh default value/in the TIME_VALUES object carried in the Resv message to a default short refresh value/ - s/in TIME_VALUES object carried in PATH to default value/in the TIME_VALUES object carried in the *Resv* message to a default value/ - s/and PPhop node/and the PPhop node/ - s/in TIME_VALUES object carried in RESV to default value/in the TIME_VALUES object carried in the Resv message to a default value/ - To be consistent with 4.6.2.1, the last paragraph of section 4.6.2.2. should NOT start with a bullet. ------ Cheers, Julien _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 07:09:44 -0000 Reviewer: Henning Rogge Review result: Has Issues Hi, I was asked by the IETF to do a Routing-Directorate review of draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo. Please note that I do NOT follow the ROLL WG. Overall I think the draft tries too hard to condense information into one document. It often uses non-intuitive abbreviations (e.g. "RPL-aware-Leaf" as "RaF" or "target" as "tgt") and I just don't know if this is the common way to do it in ROLL or just an unlucky accident. A lot of tables are literally overloaded with information to the point where the document generator splits apart words, making the table unreadable (see table 4,6,7,8,11,21 among others). Other table entries are just not easy to interpret. Table 7 (as an example) has the options "no, "must" and "yes" for a column which raises the question what is the difference between "must" and "yes". I am not sure what advice to give for the draft, if this (as the abstract states) is the analysis for the basis of header compression design I am worried that the design decisions will be hard to understand. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stewart Bryant via Datatracker To: Cc: sidrops@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.95.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:48:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 21:48:18 -0000 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review result: Has Nits This is a well written document. There are a couple of nits that need addressing but otherwise it is ready to publish. ============ 6. Security Considerations Though the above use cases are all constrained to local contexts, they violate the model of a single global PKI, albeit to meet real operational needs. Hence they MUST be implemented to assure the local constraint. SB> I can see why RFC2119 language is used, and it seems correct to use it, however Nits is complaining that there is no RFC2119 boilerplate. ========= [I-D.ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview] Lepinski, M. and S. Turner, "An Overview of BGPSEC", draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview-02 (work in progress), May 2012. SB> Nits asks if you mean this version or -08? From nobody Thu Apr 18 16:51:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C913812021C; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:51:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34h6LUK90Na3; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C4EA12020A; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hHGo6-0007Q2-55; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:51:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Stewart Bryant via Datatracker Cc: , sidrops@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/25.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:51:10 -0000 thanks stewart; review appreciated > 6. Security Considerations > > Though the above use cases are all constrained to local contexts, > they violate the model of a single global PKI, albeit to meet real > operational needs. Hence they MUST be implemented to assure the > local constraint. > > SB> I can see why RFC2119 language is used, and it seems correct to use it, > however Nits is complaining that there is no RFC2119 boilerplate. will fix > [I-D.ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview] > Lepinski, M. and S. Turner, "An Overview of BGPSEC", > draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview-02 (work in progress), May > 2012. > > SB> Nits asks if you mean this version or -08? the ref is from pre ww2. it's an rfc now. will fix. thanks again randy From nobody Thu Apr 18 16:59:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDED120248; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GIljNaPsiNvA; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A7AD12004C; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hHGvn-0007R0-RH; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:59:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:59:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Stewart Bryant via Datatracker Cc: , sidrops@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/25.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:59:07 -0000 > [I-D.ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview] > Lepinski, M. and S. Turner, "An Overview of BGPSEC", > draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview-02 (work in progress), May > 2012. > > SB> Nits asks if you mean this version or -08? i lied. it is not a current draft so can not be referenced. and i can not find it was publised as an rfc. so i referenced 8205 randy From nobody Wed Apr 24 13:57:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80A112041B; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:57:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CiycaWkFt6Dr; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com (nagasaki.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEA95120417; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:322d:baab:2d25:5a1f:c51c:c29b] ([IPv6:2607:fb90:322d:baab:2d25:5a1f:c51c:c29b]) (authenticated bits=0) by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x3OKvVqa024389; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:57:33 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Joel Jaeggli X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16E227) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:57:31 -0700 Cc: Stewart Bryant via Datatracker , rtg-dir@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6344FA11-A853-474A-BF2C-F884ABE9637E@bogus.com> References: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Randy Bush Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [Sidrops] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:57:36 -0000 =20 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2019, at 16:51, Randy Bush wrote: >=20 > thanks stewart; review appreciated >=20 >> 6. Security Considerations >>=20 >> Though the above use cases are all constrained to local contexts, >> they violate the model of a single global PKI, albeit to meet real=20 >> operational needs. Hence they MUST be implemented to assure the >> local constraint. >>=20 >> SB> I can see why RFC2119 language is used, and it seems correct to use i= t, >> however Nits is complaining that there is no RFC2119 boilerplate. >=20 > will fix >=20 >> [I-D.ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview] >> Lepinski, M. and S. Turner, "An Overview of BGPSEC", >> draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-overview-02 (work in progress), May >> 2012. >>=20 >> SB> Nits asks if you mean this version or -08? >=20 > the ref is from pre ww2. it's an rfc now. will fix. >=20 > thanks again >=20 > randy >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Sidrops mailing list > Sidrops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops >=20 From nobody Wed Apr 24 16:32:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09CF12018F; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mgMOEQu46moP; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7391C120196; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hJRN8-0003dO-Ik; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:32:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:32:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: Stewart Bryant via Datatracker , rtg-dir@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <6344FA11-A853-474A-BF2C-F884ABE9637E@bogus.com> References: <155562409732.25526.1571500373372550686@ietfa.amsl.com> <6344FA11-A853-474A-BF2C-F884ABE9637E@bogus.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/26.2 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [Sidrops] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-lta-use-cases-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:32:18 -0000 are you trying to tell me to publish -06 with these fixed? 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Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on spec= ial request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Rout= ing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see htt= p://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-pce-inter-area-as-applicability-07 Reviewer: Mach Chen Review Date: 04/28/2019 IETF LC End Date: date-if-known Intended Status: Informational Summary: This document is ready for publication.=20 Comments: This document is well-written and easy to read, it gives a comprehensive in= troduction on how to apply PCE for inter-domain path computation.=20 Best regards, Mach =20 From nobody Mon Apr 29 08:11:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E882C120348; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYummQ6olh9S; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x130.google.com (mail-it1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB015120343; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x130.google.com with SMTP id z4so16706608itc.3; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:11:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=o0qrceNJj1Li9dV2z47sIaUpz6Fe3/MS8gGkVnGEm5E=; b=JgpkvIcIOhOt6Sqw/9UawrdqWu7PzE13D9wpuO4u0KT6L5sbUE3AqlBTw7dc4sl8le vBZAkDQehFiHVMnqEMp8gcgltni/l+N/03RDwaCtMmy1Q9/Xs40EKEJZIi0GsvzLZjo+ 61TwxY//Tuzago5t3NwSdNnaKHwfChNXgUwNzcHjI4fBLrcwajT3fnN7PVN7xITYbXMI RRizu5IYtrE/DR9g4/1QSEm3QJo6au0FlftryDkdUnw1JN7rf5tR9mbjztJK4lFhXdTM vwgTPWlFTUFUxURpzOCq4BrWjCB8YXzaYh/suwlo4LaaHz22Db19oKzpGcdbMZBuuuEi ai+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=o0qrceNJj1Li9dV2z47sIaUpz6Fe3/MS8gGkVnGEm5E=; b=R8le2tKwmd8OAqgL0i3k3PUJIY1irTjdDlYQnvaEzoyXFyUr1p6xznVsDvzLUp5m0W nBG4ONrns4xk8xiSJFmnjylcRfFr2L11+ZOP100Uqks+rMW1FHTWVSnEZpOUNhotGJ+B x7lt2Y1pFdvJmWqlZwGCRK4XNOeRNTZx12BiY+Dk8RDmRe4m5BmaMM9s1kbiVliU59GC oYrrSMDtEX1scv2AtaDAr973oSk4dUV92NCw/wyBEtr8c3jP9UWw/w2Dk0kSOlroTGcI q5WNq6Fw7z+Mlp1j+Hk4wbSdcb9w8s5XSYJ00ORABZz2DhnzZcjFCWqktRL2ntq2M9tb jwuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXrGJ105myIpl5mfjOs5Q94xlyCxUtoYN4B+d+po4CKpBwIDO7c YiOHu5IffY0xWDW7cs41MBye3VE7PSRtXKN5ZkDjGR0t X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz2Wg8p5BT0mtwRI6qFAI//NObIU1GpOWEAmhASehiST04ncXVZGxXqbwjO3i3q/9fUM2CRvuOU8K5fYd3gAv0= X-Received: by 2002:a02:9f1a:: with SMTP id z26mr11502646jal.133.1556550665943; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <735916399E11684EAF4EB4FB376B71955C29713E@DGGEMA503-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <735916399E11684EAF4EB4FB376B71955C29713E@DGGEMA503-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Xufeng Liu Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:10:55 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Hejia (Jia)" Cc: "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org" , "pim@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000084be160587acb14a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-10.txt X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:11:10 -0000 --00000000000084be160587acb14a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jia, We have posted the updated https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-11 to address these issues. Thanks, - Xufeng On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 11:28 AM Hejia (Jia) wrote: > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. > The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related > drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes > on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to > the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, plea= se > see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it > would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Las= t > Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through > discussion or by updating the draft. > > > > Document: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-10.txt > Reviewer: Jia He > Review Date: 2019-02-08 > IETF LC End Date: 2019-02-08 > Intended Status: Standard Track > > > > *Summary:* > This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that shoul= d > be considered prior to publication. > > > > *Comments:* > > The draft defines a YANG data model to configure and manage IGMP and MLD > protocols. The model itself is clear. But some clarification are > appreciated in the scope description. > > > > *Major Issues:* > > No major issues found. > > > > *Minor Issues:* > > No minor issues found. > > > > *Nits:* > > 1) In Section 1.3, the sentence before Table 1 seems not completed. > [Xufeng]: Fixed. > 2) Section 2.1 says =E2=80=9CThe configuration of IGMP and MLD featu= res, and > the operational state fields and RPC definitions are *not all* included > in this document of the data model.=E2=80=9D It is not clear whether it= is =E2=80=9Cnot > all IGMP and MLD features=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cnot all configuration=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=9D I assume the first > one but it still doesn=E2=80=99t give much information of the scope. Is i= t possible > to briefly describe what are not included? > [Xufeng]: Rephrased the paragraph to clarify. The following link provides the survey on various implement ions. *https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pim/wiki/yang * The parameters implemented only once are not included in the model. The examples are: other-querier-present-time send-router-alert passive interface drop igmpv1 drop igmpv2/mldv1 Sections 2.1.1. and 2.1.2. have been added to described these parameters. > 3) Section 2.2 mentions =E2=80=9C*basic subsets* of the IGMP and MLD > protocols=E2=80=9D. Is the =E2=80=9Cbasic subsets=E2=80=9D something that= has consensus in IETF? > Otherwise, better to explain what they are in this document. > [Xufeng]: Yes, as summarized in: *https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pim/wiki/yang * > > Thanks! > > > > B.R. > > Jia > > > > > --00000000000084be160587acb14a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jia,

Thanks,
- Xufeng
=

= On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 11:28 AM Hejia (Jia) <hejia@huawei.com> wrote:

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate r= eviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through= IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purp= ose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more inf= ormation about the Routing Directorate, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki= /RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use= of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments th= at you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updatin= g the draft.

=C2=A0

Document: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-10.txt
Reviewer: Jia He
Review Date: 2019-02-08
IETF LC End Date: 2019-02-08
Intended Status: Standard Track

=C2=A0

Summary:
This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should = be considered prior to publication.

=C2=A0

Comments:

The draft defines a YANG data model to configure and manage IGMP and MLD proto= cols. The model itself is clear. But some clarification are appreciated in = the scope description.

=C2=A0

Major Issues:

No major issues found.

=C2=A0

Minor Issues:

No minor issues found.

=C2=A0

Nits:

1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In Section 1.3, the sentence before Table 1 seems not completed.

=09 =09 =09

[Xufeng]: Fixed.

2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section 2.1 says =E2=80=9CThe configuration of IGMP and MLD features= , and the operational state fields and RPC definitions are not all included in this=C2=A0=C2=A0 document of the da= ta model.=E2=80=9D It is not clear whether it is =E2=80=9Cnot all IGMP and = MLD features=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cnot all configuration=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D I= assume the first one but it still=C2=A0doesn=E2=80=99t give much informati= on of the scope. Is it possible to briefly describe what are not included?

=09 =09 =09

[Xufeng]: Rephrased the paragraph to clarify. The following link provides the survey on various implement ions.

<= /a> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pim/wiki/yang=

The parameters implemented only once are not included in the model. The examples are:
other-querier-present-time=
send-router-alert
passive interface
drop igmpv1
drop igmpv2/mldv1

Sections 2.1.1. and 2.1.2. have been added to described these parameters.

3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section 2.2 mentions =E2=80=9Cbasic subsets of the IGMP and MLD pro= tocols=E2=80=9D. Is the =E2=80=9Cbasic subsets=E2=80=9D something that has = consensus in IETF? Otherwise, better to explain what they are in this document.

=09 =09 =09

[X= ufeng]: Yes, as summarized in:

https://trac.ietf.org/trac/pim= /wiki/yang


=C2=A0=

Thanks!

=C2=A0=

B.R.

Jia

=C2=A0=

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Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on spec= ial request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Rout= ing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see htt= p://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-sidrops-https-tal-07 Reviewer: John Drake Review Date: 29-Apr-2019 IETF LC End Date: 30-Apr-2019 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: No issues found. This document is ready for publication. Comments: The document was well structured, clear, and concise, and I found it immens= ely entertaining. Major Issues: No major issues found=20 Minor Issues: No minor issues found=20 Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Internal From nobody Mon Apr 29 21:54:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6CA120108; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yX1SEkvgjTwl; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x132.google.com (mail-it1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F8F8120103; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x132.google.com with SMTP id x132so2649399itf.2; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lv6BpJne90QncZJnMlOIYZDPFg2LfYH9edZ8hicPdAQ=; b=KIpKmMp1PKAH8jdYA0UudlM+zvRCXJg2aotEb0g3D8Bf9gFHjnRNrmmuzR+vwIwdD2 IrWCn8QQP9PMHSO8r1MzmfWWwCVh1YlviWj2L/AgElkRoRohbgYViusaTeBNOzHz6hKA PlvbMoBo2tMTDH3FC0PtCQUEBz+rYjvWqcqwYRMp335lpbX4bFF7VKhTSgmVeHX3GRCk 4WW3ugwIbmrBX4YsHeL8OxxUGrfTGQHuxE2asHBsAwUQnTk/VQREN55a3EMWTJJhz3+m fijZylDBYNY03R0bmp+qQFeSS024q3CtGyhEQEl0MMebIM+1GyogfQayUboKwe+Wfo/v WQiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lv6BpJne90QncZJnMlOIYZDPFg2LfYH9edZ8hicPdAQ=; b=OwmF/tu7hUalI2bADIa6R1WsCCTUyJc19txORUErE4J1Ifbz1KJld/pR+AQ4XYe345 +JzgMI6n2x/2zJBt6sW/iJU2NCO+spYmEGsWKKypd6PoDe5uIyFHjXGdyFEHeVp1+T5N ShihoUHRCbv1FsByT9rbr7POjSHbWA/02zIscdz9scNcUxmlRZ6lIAMLPnLSxUs2wA+3 GLHG5a88aecpsYpwhFqaj6mPVCGlw2dPW70HGUVozJOKoZiA6YI7ebmBTOVCc59qbK0/ 47uFnleijr5/H3qUa8x+AUYZpaZI+IjgG2mHGdAGXf0a6xa9XMsDlFj1I1tyzeaF5bty xv+A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX3xe5Y4P/vqJ5folZ8LSTEefQnSPwQQSCDPR4q48fqb+PIowMA vzFtb1iI+yfEM7jEeqye8cRBSGK4RrcvzRW8DEAu8dR+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzPftaQnmdwcrhu/6qgFlJ+zWSEZWnvfH9KhxlwLu5HoqMYNmi0FrqSTmaEZseSNFz4eu4btF2QFXPKhxOraYk= X-Received: by 2002:a24:1c0b:: with SMTP id c11mr2111830itc.67.1556600036440; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:53:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 10:23:20 +0530 Message-ID: To: "" Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications.all@ietf.org, netconf@ietf.org, Dhruv Dhody Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-17 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 04:54:00 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-17 Reviewer: Dhruv Dhody Review Date: 2019-04-29 IETF LC End Date: 2019-04-12 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: -------- I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication. Comments: --------- This document provides a binding for events streamed over the NETCONF for dynamic subscriptions. This is a companion document to draft-ietf-netconf- subscribed-notifications and this capability for RESTCONF is defined in draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif. The document is overall well written, it makes an assumption that the reader is well versed in this area and thus sparse in providing details in the Introduction section. The appendix provides good examples. I don't see any Routing Yang model specific issue. Major Issues: ------------- Note - An IETF process issue, but worth handling right away. Section 11 says - 11. Notes to the RFC Editor This section can be removed by the RFC editor after the requests have been performed. It further says - RFC 6241 needs to be updated based on the needs of this draft. RFC-6241 section 1.2 bullet "(2)" targets RFC-5277 (actually it identifies RFC 5717, but that was an error fixed after RFC publication). Anyway the current phrasing in RFC-5277 says that a notification message can only be sent after a successful "create- subscription". Therefore the reference text must be modified to also allow notification messages be sent after a successful "establish- subscription". Proposed text for bullet (2) of RFC-6241 would be: (2) The Messages layer provides a simple, transport-independent framing mechanism for encoding RPCs and notifications. Section 4 documents the RPC messages, [RFC5277] documents Notifications sent as a result of a RPC, and [RFC xxxx] documents Notifications sent as a result of an RPC. (where xxxx is replaced with this RFC number) I am not sure if this is correct. I don't think RFC editor can do the action you are asking them to do on their own. They would need an errata (which is not correct here) or another document that updates RFC 6241. In my view this document should just update RFC 6241 (and mark that in this document's header) and do necessary text changes to reflect that. Minor Issues: ------------- (1) Abstract & Introduction, It is not clear what does the 'binding' mean and who are the parties to this binding? If this is the document that mentions 'binding' first, so please add some more clarifying text. (2) Section 3, since you use MUST in the error handling, isn't it better to use normative in below sentence as well - OLD: However a single NETCONF transport session cannot support both this specification and a subscription established by [RFC5277]'s "create-subscription" RPC. NEW: However a single NETCONF transport session MUST NOT support both this specification and a subscription established by [RFC5277]'s "create-subscription" RPC. (3) Section 6, You have - And per [RFC5277]'s "eventTime" object definition, the "eventTime" MUST be populated with the event occurrence time. Is this a new requirement, or just re-stating RFC5277? RFC5277 says - eventTime The time the event was generated by the event source. This parameter is of type dateTime and compliant to [RFC3339]. Implementations must support time zones. Also contains notification-specific tagged content, if any. With the exception of , the content of the notification is beyond the scope of this document. Maybe remove MUST? If you are trying to refine the text from RFC5277, then please re-word. Nits: ----- (1) Abstract RFC Editor note: please replace the four references to pre-RFC normative drafts with the actual assigned RFC numbers. I see two drafts in the reference section. Why four? Also, since those two are normative references, these would be published as a cluster as a part of normal RFC editor processing right? (2) Regarding NETCONF, the RFC editor says [1] - NETCONF - Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) [Not typically expanded in titles, but expand in abstract] Please expand. (3) s/[I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] /[I-D.ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] Just so that you have the same style of draft reference in the document. I get that it would be replaced with a RFC number anyways :) [1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt Thanks! 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