From shanna@juniper.net Tue Jul 28 13:21:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F144E3A6919 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.113, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V4VFlhVLkKfH for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og119.obsmtp.com (exprod7og119.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1773A685B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob119.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSm9dukDbscvW4dCuCkk/RcDSPzje/5O5@postini.com; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:21:14 PDT Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:16:04 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:16:04 -0400 From: Stephen Hanna To: "saag@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:15:35 -0400 Thread-Topic: NEA WG report Thread-Index: AcmsH8hXHsgwY+dwSw2KhPdJ5ABQdAAqbGlgGL0rjFA= Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [saag] NEA WG report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:21:14 -0000 The NEA WG met on Monday afternoon. We have two drafts with the IESG: draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-04.txt and draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-04.txt. We reviewed the comments received during IETF Last Call and from the ADs. Proposals for resolving these comments were presented and discussed. No substantial disputes came up so the editors will proceed with the changes discussed, as well as any others required to address IESG requests. Since the changes are not entirely trivial, we'll do another WGLC on the specs once they have been revised to make sure there is WG consensus on the changes. We also reviewed draft charter changes that add a new work item: specifying one or more Posture Transport protocols (PT) to transport the higher layer protocols (PA and PB). We do not plan to define a new transport protocol. Rather, we will define how the PB protocol should be carried over existing standard transport protocols like EAP and/or TLS. As with PA and PB, the plan is to solicit proposals for PT that meet our requirements (described in RFC 5209). There was agreement in the room and from our AD on these charter changes and they had already been favorably reviewed on the WG list so we will send them to the IESG for approval. From yaronf@checkpoint.com Wed Jul 29 02:49:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC233A6F4E for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:49:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.182 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.182 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.416, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TtP3HmX4ZPw7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dlpdemo.checkpoint.com (dlpdemo.checkpoint.com [194.29.32.54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F73C3A6F2B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dlpdemo.checkpoint.com (Postfix, from userid 105) id 536D529C005; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:49:25 +0300 (IDT) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (michael.checkpoint.com [194.29.32.68]) by dlpdemo.checkpoint.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0003929C002 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:49:24 +0300 (IDT) X-CheckPoint: {4A7019B4-0-14201DC2-1FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n6T9n63e013346 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:49:07 +0300 (IDT) Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.26]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.26]) with mapi; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:49:06 +0300 From: Yaron Sheffer To: "saag@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:49:02 +0300 Thread-Topic: ipsecme SAAG report Thread-Index: AcoQKQMgEDzIMxFkRuSVRTeHhz55cwACIBTg Message-ID: <7F9A6D26EB51614FBF9F81C0DA4CFEC80133E557CA99@il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA1042.90BC83C0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [saag] ipsecme SAAG report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:49:11 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01CA1042.90BC83C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002A_01CA1042.90BC83C0" ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01CA1042.90BC83C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IPsecME met on the Monday morning session, to a full (if hard to find) room. Most of the items on our current charter are nearing publication. We reviewed most of them briefly, and then had presentations on four problems that are proposed for the next charter revision. These are: - An EAP-only authentication extension to IKEv2 - An extension that allows to establish an IKE SA with no associated Child SA - Quick and secure detection of peer reboot/disconnect - Extending IKEv2 with password-based authentication We concluded by closing yet another IKEv2-bis issue. This document is making steady progress, and will hopefully exit the WG by Hiroshima. A virtual interim meeting, planned for mid-September, will help us push it along. Thanks, Paul and Yaron ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01CA1042.90BC83C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IPsecME met on the Monday morning session, to a full = (if hard to find) room.

 

Most of the items on our current charter are nearing publication. We reviewed most of them briefly, and then had = presentations on four problems that are proposed for the next charter revision. These = are:

 

-          An = EAP-only authentication extension to IKEv2

-          An = extension that allows to establish an IKE SA with no associated Child = SA

-          Quick = and secure detection of peer reboot/disconnect

-          Extending IKEv2 with password-based authentication

 

We concluded by closing yet another IKEv2-bis issue. = This document is making steady progress,  and will hopefully exit the WG = by Hiroshima. A = virtual interim meeting, planned for mid-September, will help us push it = along.

 

Thanks,

         =    Paul and Yaron

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core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD8B3A6F20 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-11a9.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-11a9.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.17.169]) by liberty.deployingradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42A8912342AF for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:26:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A704DF8.6020707@deployingradius.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:26:16 +0200 From: Alan DeKok User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saag@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [saag] EMU report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:26:17 -0000 EMU met on Monday afternoon, with a reasonable attendance. The charter items are making progress, but the work is slow * tunnel requirements - 5 people had read it. * channel bindings ~2 people had read it. We need to have more participation before we can move these items forward. There was a lot of discussion around the zero-knowledge password schemes (EAP-EKE and EAP-PWD). Much of the discussion was around issues outside of EMU, and won't be summarized here. There were two presentations on authorization with EAP. The general feeling was that these items would likely not be appropriate for EMU. A similar issue exists with the tunnel requirements document. The "method chaining" can be used to chain authentications. It can also be used to perform policy checks (e.g. NEA). This looks a lot like authorization, and concerns were raised during the meeting about it. These issues need to be clarified so that we can reach consensus on what is being standardized, and what it does. Alan DeKok. From turners@ieca.com Wed Jul 29 07:12:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C63A7093 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:12:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Blz1uUvyHKob for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp110.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp110.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A700B3A703C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 52967 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 14:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thunderfish.local) (turners@212.112.167.85 with plain) by smtp110.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2009 14:12:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-YMail-OSG: y3B2pSwVM1nAajMB0o3P5tzsxvFtvblNLDfcUY7YylebtIeGbxLe3oM5KjGmrds1JIM7WqaMVcSF43rwhxr2GuQarYJexKtwgu2xa6V4m2KUnIk5b.uDMPcM0fQkljtpNnzKxajYBCu6oLd1yPW0QwWF2TloL4Q8fDwtfoXhKLsgqveygmUHYUIYDChaOLYVSVxYP6GYNI4xrxFr9oAeyVbPFRbJ7gtWDzYliG9aARXIjeQDG9mLC76wENLhD2fp5yucVNtDhYxG0._cO.dUPfSs_T2W5g5RrQPr17nCA9nO2k5ESYz1BLN1JSUv.pysHb3IGRQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4A7058C5.2060109@ieca.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:12:21 +0200 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saag@ietf.org, ietf-smime@imc.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [saag] SMIME report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:12:26 -0000 The SMIME WG did not meet in Stockholm. We have 8 IDs. Since the last meeting, 5 IDs have entered the RFC editor's queue raising the number of SMIME WG IDs with the RFC editor to 7: - draft-ietf-smime-multisig - draft-ietf-smime-sha2 - draft-ietf-smime-3850bis - draft-ietf-smime-3850bis - draft-ietf-smime-3278bis - draft-ietf-smime-new-asn1 - draft-ietf-smime-3852bis All of the documents are pinned on documents from PKIX, the TLP revisions, or both. A new version of draft-ietf-smime-rsa-kem was posted to address comments made by Steve Kent during his SECDIR review. We issued a 2nd WGLC because the revisions were pretty substantial. One set of comments, which I would categorize as minor, was received during the 2nd WGLC. A new version will be posted, and then the document will passed to Tim Polk. Once all the documents have been published we will initiate the procedure to shut down the WG. spt From william.polk@nist.gov Wed Jul 29 04:14:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADABF3A6FD3; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.734 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.734 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vs+8B-W8b55d; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.nist.gov (rimp2.nist.gov [129.6.16.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DBB3A6F3F; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WSXGHUB1.xchange.nist.gov (wsxghub1.nist.gov [129.6.18.96]) by smtp.nist.gov (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n6TBEijZ032146; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:14:44 -0400 Received: from MBCLUSTER.xchange.nist.gov ([fe80::d479:3188:aec0:cb66]) by WSXGHUB1.xchange.nist.gov ([2002:8106:1260::8106:1260]) with mapi; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:14:43 -0400 From: "Polk, William T." To: "secdir@ietf.org" , "saag@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:14:43 -0400 Thread-Topic: Nomcom 2009-2010: IETF-75 Office hours Thread-Index: AcoPEQbFn5p69000RvKoubu2bcmSPQBKsoCS Message-ID: References: <20090727231807.374A33A6922@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20090727231807.374A33A6922@core3.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-NIST-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-NIST-MailScanner-From: william.polk@nist.gov X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:10:36 -0700 Subject: [saag] FW: Nomcom 2009-2010: IETF-75 Office hours X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:14:49 -0000 Folks, I suspect that many of you are not on ietf@ietf.org or 75attendees@ietf.org= , so I thought I would pass this on. Please support the nomcom in their extremely important job by talking with the nomcom members! For those in Stockholm, they are having office=20 hours this week, as noted below. For those not at IETF 75, please take advantage of the nomcom09@ietf.org address. Tim Polk P.S. Note that I am IESG liaison to the nomcom this year. If you would pre= fer that I not see your feedback, I encourage you to send the email directly to Mary Barnes ________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barne= s [mary.barnes@nortel.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:18 PM To: IETF Announcement list Cc: ietf@ietf.org; 75attendees@ietf.org Subject: Nomcom 2009-2010: IETF-75 Office hours Hi all, As you know, one of the first tasks of the Nomcom is consideration of the qualifications for the various positions. While the Nomcom is in the initial stages of organization, we would appreciate community feedback on the qualifications, as well as general feedback or concerns that you feel Nomcom should consider. The official nominations period starts on August 10th, at which time the online nomination tool will be available. However, nominations are welcome via email at this point as well. Please find one of the Nomcom members (wearing an orange dot) at the meeting and share your thoughts or drop by the Nomcom office. If you prefer to schedule an appointment, please let me know or send a request to nomcom09@ietf.org. We will be available in the Nomcom room (204) as follows (W-Fri): Wed: 8am-4:10pm Thurs: 8-9am, 11:30am-1pm Fri: 8-9am If you would to schedule a specific timeslot or another time not listed above, please let us know and please include 3 timeslot/session options in your request. We will make every effort to accommodate your requests and will reply with an exact timeslot. Of course, anyone is welcome to send input and feedback to the Nomcom (nomcom09@ietf.org) or directly to myself or any nomcom voting member at any time during the selection process. Regards, Mary H. Barnes mary.barnes@nortel.com nomcom-chair@ietf.org mary.h.barnes@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf From kent@bbn.com Wed Jul 29 08:24:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA973A6823 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id da5LUU0d6rW2 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.bbn.com (mx3.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F0D3A6983 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dommiel.bbn.com ([192.1.122.15] helo=[130.129.18.170]) by mx3.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MWB0p-0007jR-Ch; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:24:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:24:13 -0400 To: saag@ietf.org From: Stephen Kent Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [saag] PKIX report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:38 -0000 PKIX meeting report About 42 individuals attended the single PKIX session at the 75th IETF. Four PKIX document have been approved by the IESG and are awaiting publication. One is entering IETF last call, one is slated for a telechat in 3 weeks, and another has just completed WG last call. Seven other document are in process in the WG. The remaining two trust anchor documents will enter WGLC in a few weeks, and software implementing the functionality of these documents will be made available. Stefan Santesson will take over as editor of RFC 4557bis (OCSP). The revisions will add an extension allowing a client to express algorithm preferences for OCSP responses, and will specify an algorithm for how an OCSP server selects the algorithm to use in signing a response. Stefan also will act as editor for the update for RFC 3161 (Time Stamping). This RFC will have a minor change made to accommodate ESSv2 cert IDs, to allow use of hash algorithms other than SHA-1. This is consistent with our algorithm agility mandate, and will harmonize this RFC with existing ETSI efforts. Stefan, completing a hat trick, discussed his I-D on linking images to certs. The intent is to extend RFC 3709 (Logotypes) to allow additional image formats for scaleable graphic representation. The meeting concluded with two non-WG presentations. One, by Stefan, discussed an ongoing technical effort in the EU to reduce ambiguity of distinguished names in X,509 certs. The plan is to use metadata to provide a guide to interpreting DN attributes on a per CA basis. Steve presented a proposal for relying party management of trust anchors, focusing on the RPKI requirement for such a capability. From julienl@qualcomm.com Wed Jul 29 13:16:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C713A69C0 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.71 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.71 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.889, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a9zEZGnm9Mm2 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E1B3A6407 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=julienl@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1248898570; x=1280434570; h=from:to:date:subject:thread-topic:thread-index: message-id:accept-language:content-language: x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:acceptlanguage: content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version: x-ironport-av; z=From:=20"Laganier,=20Julien"=20 |To:=20"saag@ietf.org"=20|Date:=20Wed,=202 9=20Jul=202009=2013:15:27=20-0700|Subject:=20BTNS=20non-m eeting=20report|Thread-Topic:=20BTNS=20non-meeting=20repo rt|Thread-Index:=20AcoQiVBSYPiNHvMxTpqfUD+kk7XEMQ=3D=3D |Message-ID:=20|Accept-Language:=20en-US |Content-Language:=20en-US|X-MS-Has-Attach: |X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:|acceptlanguage:=20en-US |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii" |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quoted-printable |MIME-Version:=201.0|X-IronPort-AV:=20E=3DMcAfee=3Bi=3D"5 300,2777,5692"=3B=20a=3D"21402262"; bh=npsdLWEyX1pcZ8Jeb0qGsUycWMW1ZraY0PmL+J2G7iM=; b=U5aLRGUzDNpXTEmqaW/w9NJw7fOpHb9VJZPh+SYj/W+7aAL+lrMMauAc PK3fBLVilATAf7W2NP7WRQiKnWXnU7fQ0a2M3l2QyoySKcsTwa5SfZ7mG agBcF+e+X5xAPVehBC5q76oP1YRXNtClb6OeOamnP6ueZkf7fCbTTv+eO c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5692"; a="21402262" Received: from pdmz-ns-mip.qualcomm.com (HELO ithilien.qualcomm.com) ([199.106.114.10]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Jul 2009 13:16:09 -0700 Received: from totoro.qualcomm.com (totoro.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.158]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id n6TKG9st025810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:09 -0700 Received: from nasanexhub01.na.qualcomm.com (nasanexhub01.na.qualcomm.com [10.46.93.121]) by totoro.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id n6TKFM4E000873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nalasexhc02.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.129.186) by nasanexhub01.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.93.121) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.358.0; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:15:30 -0700 Received: from NALASEXMB04.na.qualcomm.com ([10.47.7.114]) by nalasexhc02.na.qualcomm.com ([10.47.129.186]) with mapi; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:15:30 -0700 From: "Laganier, Julien" To: "saag@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:15:27 -0700 Thread-Topic: BTNS non-meeting report Thread-Index: AcoQiVBSYPiNHvMxTpqfUD+kk7XEMQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [saag] BTNS non-meeting report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:16:08 -0000 BTNS status update. draft-ietf-btns-connection-latching is in IESG: resolution of the last DISC= USS regarding SCTP handling of latch breakage is being discussed on the WG = mailing list. Lack of progress on BTNS APIs which are the last document left on our plate= . From Shawn.Emery@Sun.COM Thu Jul 30 00:40:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888A928C133 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:40:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YoGb0hyeG-Fg for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A42F28C159 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe-amer-09.sun.com ([192.18.109.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n6U7dW3s003883 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:39:32 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KNL001003V8SZ00@mail-amer.sun.com> for saag@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dhcp-16b2.meeting.ietf.org ([unknown] [129.150.124.137]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNL0044W3XV1D80@mail-amer.sun.com> for saag@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:36:49 -0600 From: "Shawn M. Emery" Sender: Shawn.Emery@Sun.COM To: saag@ietf.org Message-id: <4A714D91.60107@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Subject: [saag] KITTEN report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:40:12 -0000 Kitten will meet after SAAG today in the second afternoon session (room 300). Most of the drafts, except one, are either in the IESG, have recently become RFCs, or in the RFC Editor's queue. The only active I-D, draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-extensions-iana, needs some work, but the associated changes have been agreed upon within the WG. There has not been much momentum in the WG to complete the few remaining charter items. We will discuss this with the ADs and WG to see how to proceed. Shawn and Tom. -- From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Thu Jul 30 00:52:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298A3A69AD for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LZN+-JM0hras for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAFA3A7183 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so380074pzk.29 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:52:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Pj+Q3i4kMCBEnGMhJIg1PK1yi3IYnMaa80g0utjFoN4=; b=MVvRytc1DDHpZ1LvMfvGdb7YfsGri81FR5j5Wy5uTNyHmgHqdqsD4ATBTg3tmXpV9p YkScbKul+UxPNcaRo38GN4KulO0XiISPPRG7U45PR/FM7Z8n0QAnOPEVPIQ8XSewCeJy Bkh2l1o7MdlviiSpnCQz9CbtfNEUqO34ip7wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TL4rZzHVpeacoTZtaPLl2EeSAZw5HA36PqKgx7FBFXtQRJchJPWqaIwkubpf5W+Trd UfCZGcdRWf/GbS94Q3nV5OxflY5mynEnbcFJ6HI5PSP+WbLOfFstOs9pX5e4OnveZ1Yy ulo6924kk7PSr9UoTTlhf8wOhOE55THBESyPY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.136.7 with SMTP id j7mr1231739wad.30.1248940320859; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: <6c9fcc2a0907300052m71a3846kb8adae1370e4c678@mail.gmail.com> From: Barry Leiba To: saag@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF DKIM WG Subject: [saag] DKIM summary report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: barryleiba@computer.org List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:52:01 -0000 The DKIM working group met on Tuesday afternoon. The group's chartered work is nearly done (the last document is in WGLC, and two others are now in the RFC Editor queue), so the goal of this meeting was to discuss implementation reports and draft-standard progression for the base protocol. Dave Crocker has posted implementation surveys to the mailing list, but has so far gotten few replies. WG participants were urged to complete them, and to pass them on to others. Barry will pass them to MAAWG (Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group) and urge response, as IETF liaison to MAAWG. Barry would like to collect data not only on feature use by signers and verifiers, but also on what use the verifiers make of the results. There was much discussion about dropping unused or little-used features in the process of going to draft standard. We note that RFC 2026 *requires* dropping features that are truly unused, but whether to drop others is a different question. Several opinions were given about keeping all features, because, while there's plenty of experience with signing and verifying, knowledge of usage of the result of verifying is still limited. We don't yet know what verifiers will decide is important, over time. Counter-argument: history shows that when we learn that, we'll find that the features we kept purely speculatively will be the wrong ones anyway. Informal vote showed approximately a 2-to-1 preference for keeping *all* features, versus removing some. Chairs don't consider that to be sufficient for "rough consensus", so it will be discussed on the list. Pasi pointed out, and the chairs agree, that because we had consensus on these to start with, the default action, lacking clear consensus to remove a feature, is to keep it. There was also discussion indicating that documenting DKIM use cases could be helpful. Perhaps this could be added to the "deployment" document (in WGLC now), or perhaps using an easily updated wiki. Barry Leiba (and Stephen Farrell) From larry.zhu@microsoft.com Thu Jul 30 01:15:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEB028C1F3 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.321, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fx2AVsE5RmP7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (mail2.microsoft.com [131.107.115.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAFC28C1F0 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) by TK5-EXGWY-E802.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.168) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:46 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com (157.54.71.68) by TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.621.7; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:45 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([169.254.3.25]) by TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.71.68]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:15:45 -0700 From: Larry Zhu To: "saag@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: krb-wg report (IETF 75) Thread-Index: AcoQ7e+QRkZMpGiyQU+RKB8B+korzQ== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:15:44 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [saag] krb-wg report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:15:44 -0000 Krb-wg will meet tomorrow (Friday) in the morning after saag today. We will have technical discussions on FAST ID and IA-Kerb. Shoichi will mak= e a presentation on the proposed DHCPv6 Kerberos option. Tom will give us a= n update on the Kerberos consortium activities related to SHA1 hash usage a= nd proposals. Overall we have 7 documents either ready or close to be ready. The Kerberos= OTP document generated considerable amount of discussions in the list duri= ng the past 3 months. The discussions are constructive and the chair believ= es this document is converging and currently in good shape, though a workin= g group second last call is deemed necessary due to significant changes mad= e or to be made as the result of these discussions. Larry Zhu From turners@ieca.com Thu Jul 30 01:41:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCD628C1AB for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:41:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QnJ1SL21pc8X for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp109.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.8]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 186D828C144 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 94616 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2009 08:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dhcp-1598.meeting.ietf.org) (turners@130.129.21.152 with plain) by smtp109.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2009 08:41:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qPTWNAeswBAtDTSn9GKlmmL3C90ke7grn_5n9To- X-YMail-OSG: jF6Iz24VM1l.aABWl0NH2lYR6KWehs1bGBMKuwdBDUhePm1lwRC3DyfWONz8KlJGT4MM9Yl3apLdxI6QUEae5qcUbWgknMdTpolkJBCY96T8ivHPTTbzcAz4WmzO36NPW5AVud.Lyu.deRZjvLQPGXeopvEkLW9r3pib1JQ0jcfGV9_8qltH75zmwBb9yvSpHzB9QcUt0y_QII_4p8AzNc05MhXFMjdnCXgxRks09by47Qd_P1ZCB8rQXMzyoh9b2Nv.ufmpws_Kv75lj6oh_lNDjA1UjwX7Sw.sXuxcXG5BrkoubyPZbpz5H0zGkAFWwa14nEM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4A715CC1.1000900@ieca.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:41:37 +0200 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: saag@ietf.org, keyprov@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [saag] KEYPROV report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:41:41 -0000 The KEYPROV WG meeting Thursday morning. Somewhere around 20 brave souls entered the cavernous 790 seat auditorium. KEYPROV has three IDs: The Portable Symmetric Key Container (PSKC) ID has emerged nearly unscathed from its 2nd WGLC. Another version will be produced to address the minor comments raised during this WGLC. It will be passed to Pasi once it is published. The Symmetric Key Package Content Type ID will be updated to add ASN.1 versions of the XML PSKC attributes. After the next version is published, it will enter WGLC. The Dynamic Symmetric Key Provisioning Protocol (DSKPP) will be updated to address minor comments and when it is published it will enter WGLC. A PSKC reference implementation has been developed. A link to it will be provided to the KEYPROV mailing list. spt From larry.zhu@microsoft.com Thu Jul 30 01:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBED28C1B0 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.321, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DfU7lE0Y1KU8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (smtp.microsoft.com [131.107.115.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B593528C1A1 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:47 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com (157.54.71.68) by TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.621.7; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:47 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([169.254.3.25]) by TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.71.68]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:47 -0700 From: Larry Zhu To: "saag@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: krb-wg report (IETF 75) Thread-Index: AcoQ7NIekkDTp31YRyeZ2ggL+hXn2Q== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:07:45 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:59:43 -0700 Subject: [saag] krb-wg report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:09:15 -0000 Krb-wg will meet tomorrow (Friday) in the morning after saag today. We will have technical discussions on FAST ID and IA-Kerb. Shoichi will mak= e a presentation on the proposed DHCPv6 Kerberos option. Tom will give us a= n update on the Kerberos consortium activities related to SHA1 hash usage a= nd proposals. Overall we have 7 documents either ready or close to be ready. The Kerberos= OTP document generated considerable amount of discussions in the list duri= ng the past 3 months. The discussions are constructive and the chair believ= es this document is converging and currently in good shape, though a workin= g group second last call is deemed necessary due to significant changes mad= e or to be made as the result of these discussions. Larry Zhu From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Thu Jul 30 01:21:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B494028C241 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:21:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ykhmPbYkWm10 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD96128C24E for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68089C00B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:20:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KrYhGEHgs5DX; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81212C0025; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id AC9F0B71AC2; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:20:54 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: saag@ietf.org Message-ID: <20090730082054.GC15636@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:59:43 -0700 Subject: [saag] ISMS report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0000 The ISMS WG met on Monday afternoon at IETF 75. Since the last meeting at IETF 74, all chartered work items were completed (three RFCs published and one currently in AUTH48). A recharting discussion before IETF 75 let to the adoption of two additional work items: SNMP over TLS/DTLS and RADIUS authorization of SNMP access control policies. Two individual submissions were discussed at IETF 75 and the WG adopted them as working group items. The goal is to deliver the final versions of these documents in January 2010 to the IESG and then ISMS is likely done. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From tlyu@MIT.EDU Thu Jul 30 02:22:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC93828C2A2 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCJo6-GorEq7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0D328C290 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id n6U9MLZS005664; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (CATHODE-DARK-SPACE.MIT.EDU [18.18.1.96]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as tlyu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id n6U9MKux012281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tlyu@localhost) by cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id n6U9MKXG012174; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:22:20 -0400 (EDT) To: saag@ietf.org From: Tom Yu Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 54 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Cc: ietf-sasl@imc.org Subject: [saag] SASL IETF75 summary X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:22:25 -0000 Simple Authentication And Security Layer (SASL) IETF75, Stockholm, Sweden Monday, July 27, 15:20--17:20 ============================= Chairs: Tom Yu Kurt Zeilenga Scribe: Peter Saint-Andre Jabber: http://jabber.ietf.org/logs/sasl/2009-07-27.txt Audio: ftp://videolab.uoregon.edu/pub/videolab/media/ietf75/ietf75-mon-rm300-pm.mp3 Agenda slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/slides/sasl-0.pdf GS2 slide: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/slides/sasl-1.pdf ==================== - draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-14 -- in WGLC - draft-ietf-sasl-scram-02 -- in WGLC - draft-ietf-sasl-4422bis-01 -- not much progress, mostly editorial - changes - draft-ietf-sasl-channel-bindings-03 -- some revisions, as side effect of SCRAM/GS2 discussion SCRAM and GS2 in WGLC (concluding Aug. 3); mostly editorial comments at this point. SASL base spec to Draft Standard: need implementation report. 4422bis needs revised SASLprep, which Kurt will work on. Some discussion about normative downref to SASLprep. Probably not a problem because individual mechanisms are what actually normatively reference it. Drop EXTERNAL from base spec? No consensus either way. Probably not a big deal; could possibly get folded into Simon's external-channel draft. Milestones: Mar 09 GS2 WGLC -- in progress Mar 09 SCRAM WGLC -- in progress Apr 09 decide CRAM-MD5 approach -- done; Tom will summarize to list Jun 09 4422bis I-D -- initial revisions Oct 09 implementation report Oct 09 4422bis WGLC From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Jul 30 03:18:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1923A3A6B43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:18:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0fupHUPR3Wle for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1:76:0:ffff:4834:7147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD983A7052 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.85.251] (dhcp-55fb.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.85.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6UAHog7031773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:18:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4A717349.3010900@dcrocker.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:17:45 +0200 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: barryleiba@computer.org References: <6c9fcc2a0907300052m71a3846kb8adae1370e4c678@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6c9fcc2a0907300052m71a3846kb8adae1370e4c678@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:01:33 -0700 Cc: saag@ietf.org, IETF DKIM WG Subject: Re: [saag] [ietf-dkim] DKIM summary report (IETF 75) X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:18:09 -0000 Barry Leiba wrote: > The DKIM working group met on Tuesday afternoon. Barry, Just wanted to thank you for writing such an excellent summary of the meeting. I think you captured the salient points perfectly. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net