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This again could seem like Sony wants to create a subj= ect anger since through the circulation of technologie= s Dennet ----52C7F77A752D367-- From gino.martin@bt.com Fri May 7 10:02:46 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA22783 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: gino.martin@bt.com Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BM5w7-0001CS-Ts for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:02:48 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BM5vN-0000mT-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:02:01 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BM5uO-0007gk-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:01:00 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 May 2004 06:03:57 +0000 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i47E02C1009573; Fri, 7 May 2004 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i47DxGZ4013103 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 7 May 2004 06:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405071359.i47DxGZ4013103@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1083938356-13101-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: cwnd and ssthreshold update following fast retransmit and rtx timeout List-Id: sctp-impl To: X-Nails-Approved: gino.martin@bt.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:55:17 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1083938356-13101-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Hi All I have a question concerning SCTP behaviour following expiry of the T3-rtx timer. Is fast recovery deemed to have ended on expiry of this timer? Consider the situation where a fast retransmitted packet is subsequently lost resulting in further retransmission(s) with consequential timeout(s), would this result in 2 (or more) reductions in the ssthreshold (plus cwnd adjustment)? · In section 7.2.4 it states: · · 6) If not in Fast Recovery, enter Fast Recovery and mark the highest · outstanding TSN as the Fast Recovery exit point. When a SACK · acknowledges all TSNs up to and including this exit point, Fast · Recovery is exited. While in Fast Recovery, the ssthresh and cwnd SHOULD NOT change for any destinations. · · While in 7.2.3 it states: · · When the T3-rtx timer expires on an address, SCTP should perform slow · start by: · ssthresh = max(cwnd/2, 2*MTU) · cwnd = 1*MTU · partial_bytes_acked = 0 · · These appear to be incompatible unless the second statement implies exiting of FR or does not apply whilst in FR. Thanks Gino BT Exact This statement represents the views of the author and does not necessarily accurately represent the views of BT ------------=_1083938356-13101-0-- From rrs@cisco.com Fri May 7 10:32:23 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA26075 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BM6Om-00070J-S1 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:32:24 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BM6Ng-0006Vy-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:31:17 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BM6Mw-0005zu-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 10:30:30 -0400 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i47ETGjO023415; Fri, 7 May 2004 07:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i47ET2Z4013507 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 7 May 2004 07:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405071429.i47ET2Z4013507@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1083940142-13505-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: cwnd and ssthreshold update following fast retransmit and rtx timeout List-Id: sctp-impl To: gino.martin@bt.com From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com X-Nails-Approved: rrs@cisco.com Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 10:27:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1083940142-13505-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Gino: I think the key question here is "Does fast recovery exit when an T3 timer expires?" IMO the answer is yes. All data outstanding is marked for retransmission so at that stage I think you are at square one so to speak.. with a cwnd == 1 MTU and everything waiting to be sent.. R gino.martin@bt.com wrote: >Hi All > >I have a question concerning SCTP behaviour following expiry of the T3-rtx timer. > >Is fast recovery deemed to have ended on expiry of this timer? Consider the situation where a fast retransmitted packet is subsequently lost resulting in further retransmission(s) with consequential timeout(s), would this result in 2 (or more) reductions in the ssthreshold (plus cwnd adjustment)? > > · In section 7.2.4 it states: > · > · 6) If not in Fast Recovery, enter Fast Recovery and mark the highest > · outstanding TSN as the Fast Recovery exit point. When a SACK > · acknowledges all TSNs up to and including this exit point, Fast > · Recovery is exited. While in Fast Recovery, the ssthresh and cwnd SHOULD NOT change for any destinations. > · > · While in 7.2.3 it states: > · > · When the T3-rtx timer expires on an address, SCTP should perform slow > · start by: > · ssthresh = max(cwnd/2, 2*MTU) > · cwnd = 1*MTU > · partial_bytes_acked = 0 > · > · These appear to be incompatible unless the second statement implies exiting of FR or does not apply whilst in FR. > >Thanks > >Gino > >BT Exact > >This statement represents the views of the author and does not necessarily accurately represent the views of BT > > > > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD - Transport Technologies 815-477-2127(o) or 815-342-5222(c) ------------=_1083940142-13505-0-- From gino.martin@bt.com Fri May 7 14:22:04 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA10202 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 14:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: gino.martin@bt.com Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BM9z2-0000wh-JB for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 14:22:04 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BM9yB-0000W8-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 14:21:12 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BM9xK-0007dP-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 14:20:18 -0400 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i47IJOW9007469; Fri, 7 May 2004 11:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i47IIvZ4016478 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 7 May 2004 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405071818.i47IIvZ4016478@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1083953937-16476-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: RE: cwnd and ssthreshold update following fast retransmit and rtx timeout List-Id: sctp-impl To: X-Nails-Approved: gino.martin@bt.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:17:52 +0100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1083953937-16476-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Thanks Randall I agree and was kind of looking for some confirmation from the experts! Perhaps another way of looking at it is that since chunks are eligible for fast retransmission only once then if they are lost again it doesn't make sense to consider FR active for these chunks. Following rtx expiry since the RTO > RTT there is no issue relating to multiple cwnd/ssthresh reductions within an RTT, which I believe was one of the reasons why the FR period was introduced Gino -----Original Message----- From: Randall Stewart (cisco) [mailto:rrs@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 15:27 To: Martin,GAR,Gino,XSK2 R Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: cwnd and ssthreshold update following fast retransmit and rtx timeout Gino: I think the key question here is "Does fast recovery exit when an T3 timer expires?" IMO the answer is yes. All data outstanding is marked for retransmission so at that stage I think you are at square one so to speak.. with a cwnd == 1 MTU and everything waiting to be sent.. R gino.martin@bt.com wrote: >Hi All > >I have a question concerning SCTP behaviour following expiry of the T3-rtx timer. > >Is fast recovery deemed to have ended on expiry of this timer? Consider the situation where a fast retransmitted packet is subsequently lost resulting in further retransmission(s) with consequential timeout(s), would this result in 2 (or more) reductions in the ssthreshold (plus cwnd adjustment)? > > · In section 7.2.4 it states: > · > · 6) If not in Fast Recovery, enter Fast Recovery and mark the highest > · outstanding TSN as the Fast Recovery exit point. When a SACK > · acknowledges all TSNs up to and including this exit point, Fast > · Recovery is exited. While in Fast Recovery, the ssthresh and cwnd SHOULD NOT change for any destinations. > · > · While in 7.2.3 it states: > · > · When the T3-rtx timer expires on an address, SCTP should perform slow > · start by: > · ssthresh = max(cwnd/2, 2*MTU) > · cwnd = 1*MTU > · partial_bytes_acked = 0 > · > · These appear to be incompatible unless the second statement implies exiting of FR or does not apply whilst in FR. > >Thanks > >Gino > >BT Exact > >This statement represents the views of the author and does not necessarily accurately represent the views of BT > > > > -- Randall R. 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The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate the industry. SRGE just announced two major contracts totaling $5 Million, making their shares grossly undervalued based upon conservative EPS estimates. This is just the tip of the iceberg and we expect a continuous flow of huge news announcements detailing the highly profitable chain of events to follow for SRGE in the near future. We can state from our judicious research that we are not alone in viewing SRGE as one of those extremely rare opportunities where the impact of major news events simultaneously boosts the value of a company while ultimately providing substantial reward for its shareholders. SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time. Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their network in order to prevent the hazards of harming personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive system failures. How many times have you seen issues explode but you couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right information in time? We are alerting you now to a special Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases in revenue for 2004 and 2005. 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Shares may be sold at any time, even after positive statements have been made regarding the above company. ----22CE625A3CFCF08-- From piggy@timesys.com Thu May 13 09:32:28 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA11761 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOGK5-00037G-LG for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 09:32:29 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOGIu-0002VY-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 09:31:17 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOGGo-0001GP-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 09:29:06 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2004 05:34:51 +0000 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4DDS8C1027738; Thu, 13 May 2004 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4DDRWZ4005662 for sctp-impl-filtered; Thu, 13 May 2004 06:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405131327.i4DDRWZ4005662@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1084454851-5660-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? List-Id: sctp-impl To: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com From: "La Monte H.P. Yarroll" X-Nails-Approved: piggy@timesys.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:24:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1084454851-5660-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary This is a question about implementing the sockets API. How unique do association identifiers need to be on a single 1-many socket? Do bad things happen if we use a first-fit algorithm for picking new identifiers? I.e. is it safe to reuse an association identifier immediately after the association that had it before shuts down? The Linux kernel provides an identifier generating and tracking subsystem which defaults to providing first-fit identifiers. We can force it to generate monotonicly increasing identifiers, but memory efficiency drops significantly. Is it worth paying the memory price to get identifiers which recirculate less often? My model application for thinking about this problem is a long-lived telecomm app which creates a few control associations early on in life and then creates a lot of shorter-lived bearer associations. The lifetimes of the bearer associations would probably have an exponential distribution. If first-fit is too agressive for recirculating identifiers, how large a pool is large enough? Looking at the existing code, it would not be difficult to recirculate in a pool of 256 identifiers without additional memory penalty... -- Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell's sig ------------=_1084454851-5660-0-- From rrs@cisco.com Thu May 13 14:02:08 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29561 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 14:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOKX3-0000Uz-09 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 14:02:09 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOKTi-0007Cx-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:58:43 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOKR2-0005Tg-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:55:56 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2004 10:54:37 -0700 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4DHsv0Q009627; Thu, 13 May 2004 10:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4DHsUZ4009119 for sctp-impl-filtered; Thu, 13 May 2004 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405131754.i4DHsUZ4009119@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1084470870-9117-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? List-Id: sctp-impl To: "La Monte H.P. Yarroll" From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com X-Nails-Approved: rrs@cisco.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:52:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1084470870-9117-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary La Monte: I think Kacheong pointed this out a while back in an authors-discussion of the sockets api... Some language needs to be added to the draft in this vein (if I remember K's comment right) that says apps should be aware of reuse possiblity... did we do this.. hmm .. I will have to check ... Those that need to use the associd and track it somehow need to watch those pesky little association ending notifications.. so that they will not have an issue with sending a message to the wrong association for instance... Doing something like you propose below will definetly help... I know in KAME we make NO attempt to do anything to keep re-use from happening... in fact it WILL happen a lot... I will have to think on this if I want to add something along these lines... sigh.. more code if I do.. and as you point out the overhead, depending on how little re-circulation you want), can get quite big after a bit. R La Monte H.P. Yarroll wrote: > This is a question about implementing the sockets API. > > How unique do association identifiers need to be on a single 1-many > socket? > > Do bad things happen if we use a first-fit algorithm for > picking new identifiers? I.e. is it safe to reuse an association > identifier immediately after the association that had it before > shuts down? > > The Linux kernel provides an identifier generating and tracking > subsystem which defaults to providing first-fit identifiers. We > can force it to generate monotonicly increasing identifiers, but > memory efficiency drops significantly. Is it worth paying the > memory price to get identifiers which recirculate less often? > > My model application for thinking about this problem is a long-lived > telecomm app which creates a few control associations early on in life > and then creates a lot of shorter-lived bearer associations. The > lifetimes of the bearer associations would probably have an exponential > distribution. > > If first-fit is too agressive for recirculating identifiers, how large > a pool is large enough? Looking at the existing code, it would not > be difficult to recirculate in a pool of 256 identifiers without > additional memory penalty... > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD - Transport Technologies 815-477-2127(o) or 815-342-5222(c) ------------=_1084470870-9117-0-- From cait@asomi.com Thu May 13 15:08:13 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA06155 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOLZ0-0004Tc-6B for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:08:14 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BOLXx-0003vB-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:07:09 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOLWl-0002ss-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:05:55 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2004 11:11:43 +0000 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4DJ54C1028515; Thu, 13 May 2004 12:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4DJ4jZ4010010 for sctp-impl-filtered; Thu, 13 May 2004 12:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405131904.i4DJ4jZ4010010@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1084475085-10008-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? List-Id: sctp-impl To: "La Monte H.P. Yarroll" From: Caitlin Bestler Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com X-Nails-Approved: cait@asomi.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:01:26 +0300 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1084475085-10008-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary On May 13, 2004, at 4:24 PM, La Monte H.P. Yarroll wrote: > This is a question about implementing the sockets API. > > How unique do association identifiers need to be on a single 1-many > socket? > > Do bad things happen if we use a first-fit algorithm for > picking new identifiers? I.e. is it safe to reuse an association > identifier immediately after the association that had it before > shuts down? > > The Linux kernel provides an identifier generating and tracking > subsystem which defaults to providing first-fit identifiers. We > can force it to generate monotonicly increasing identifiers, but > memory efficiency drops significantly. Is it worth paying the > memory price to get identifiers which recirculate less often? > You seem to be assuming that the cycle-length of the association ID is directly proportionate to the amount of tracking data required. One simple solution is to have an "index", which determines the cycle length, and a "serial number" which is changed each time an index is re-issued. The association id is then formed from the combination (via any of numerous possible methods). Given an association id you can quickly find the index, and the control data. You then check the serial number to make sure that if this is a stale association ID it is *very* stale. It doesn't achieve the maximum cycle time for the number of bits in the association ID, but it does allow storage to be scaled to match the maximum number of association IDs rather than the association ID re-use span. ------------=_1084475085-10008-0-- From piggy@timesys.com Thu May 13 16:41:21 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA11725 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 16:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BON18-0000EY-G5 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 16:41:22 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BON0E-0007UG-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BOMzP-0006Yr-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 16:39:36 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2004 13:38:12 -0700 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4DKcc0Q027247; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4DKcJZ4011203 for sctp-impl-filtered; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405132038.i4DKcJZ4011203@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1084480699-11201-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? 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I.e. is it safe to reuse an association >> identifier immediately after the association that had it before >> shuts down? >> >> The Linux kernel provides an identifier generating and tracking >> subsystem which defaults to providing first-fit identifiers. We >> can force it to generate monotonicly increasing identifiers, but >> memory efficiency drops significantly. Is it worth paying the >> memory price to get identifiers which recirculate less often? > > > You seem to be assuming that the cycle-length of the association > ID is directly proportionate to the amount of tracking data required. Only for the implementation I need to use. More below... > One simple solution is to have an "index", which determines the > cycle length, and a "serial number" which is changed each > time an index is re-issued. The association id is then formed > from the combination (via any of numerous possible methods). > Given an association id you can quickly find the index, and > the control data. 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We are using freebsd4.9 with KAME snap 20040405, patch 20040406 and the for_magness patch you sent us. When we try to send big files (size 100MB and 1GB) repeatedly the connection slows down or fails. Strangely enough the problem does not seems to be predeterministic. The test application we are using are working for smaller files (1MB, 10MB) without problems. When upgrading to snap 20040517 without the patches the connection immediately is reset by the sender for the same test application as above. Is it possible we are doing something wrong when we compile the kernel? 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    Major Contract Announcements and
    Huge Newsletter Coverage This Week for DPRI !

    DPRI has been saving the largest insurance companies in the US $Million= s
    for over 14 years by performing defective product and fire investigation= s and
    air quality analysis. The number of annual product inspections performed= by
    DPRI with regard to investigating defects has tripled to 10,000 per year= up
    from 3,000 three years ago as insurers see the financial rewards of
    = identifying the exact cause of a defective or failed product.

    DPRI reported positive earnings of .04 cents per share in 2003 with .07= cents
    per share expected for the current year. The stock should be trading conservatively at over 1.50 on the strength of those figures.

    DPRI's client base reads like a "who's-who" of the insurance = industry
    including Allstate, Fireman's Fund, Hartford, Liberty Mutual, Nationwide= ,
    Prudential, Republic, State Farm and Travelers. DPRI has the largest and=
    most thorough database in the US for identifying product defects that ar= e
    responsible for hundreds of millions in damage. DPRI has little to no competitors in this arena and just signed a contract for a single compan= y to
    pay them $1 Million for access to this database over a 10 year period. T= hat's
    just one company out of hundreds that can't afford to be without this valuable information.

    Billionaire-financial genius Warren Buffet has grown his Berkshire
    = Hathaway empire (trading at over $80,000 per share) on the explosive cas= h
    flow from 3 insurance subsidiaries: National Indemnity, GEICO, and
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    DPRI is being force-fed ever increasing amounts of business by the lead= ing
    core of this very successful sector but has remained below the radar of =
    investors, thus creating a share price that is artificially undervalued.= DPRI
    has the proven experience that fosters escalating revenues and growth. B= ased
    on the very small float and the ability for the stock to jump sharply on= any
    real volume, upcoming news and continuous profits will lead to increased=
    exposure in conjunction with a soaring stock price.

    We are expecting significant upcoming news regarding increased revenues=
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    most undervalued stocks on the OTCBB!

    Required DPRI information: OTCBB Stock Alert is an independent
    newsletter with the goal of giving investors the necessary knowledge to =
    make rational and profitable investment decisions. This publication does= not
    provide an analysis of the company's financial position and is not an of= fer to
    buy or sell securities. Investing in securities is speculative and carri= es risk.
    It is recommended that any investment should be made after consulting wi= th
    your investment advisor and after reviewing the financial statements of = the
    company. OTCBB Stock Alert presents information in this online report believed to be reliable, but its accuracy cannot be assured. Past perfor= mance
    does not insure similar future results. OTCBB Stock Alert received fifte= en
    thousand dollars from an unaffiliated third party with respect to the preparation of this special online report as an effort to build investor=
    awareness for DPRI. The information reported herein contains future-
    = looking statements and information within the meaning of Section 27A of =
    the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Ac= t
    of 1934, including statements regarding expected continual growth of the=
    featured company. Future-looking statements are based on expectations, <= br> estimates, and projections at the time the statements are made that invo= lve a
    number of risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to di= ffer
    materially from those presently anticipated.


    ----57FAD812477E7F36EC31-- From kacheong.poon@sun.com Fri May 21 19:43:50 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA13090 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRJg6-0003e3-HR for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:43:50 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJfF-0003Wf-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:42:58 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJeM-0003Ls-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:42:03 -0400 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4LNetfS025980; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4LNeNZ4014559 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405212340.i4LNeNZ4014559@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1085182823-14557-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? List-Id: sctp-impl To: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com From: Kacheong Poon X-Nails-Approved: kacheong.poon@sun.com Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:39:36 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1085182823-14557-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Some language needs to be added to the draft in this > vein (if I remember K's comment right) that says apps > should be aware of reuse possiblity... did we do this.. hmm .. I will > have to check ... It is already in the current -08 draft. See section 3.1. > Those that need to use the associd and track it somehow > need to watch those pesky little association ending notifications.. so > that they will not have an issue with sending a message to > the wrong association for instance... It can be worse than that as the notification receive and sending can be in the wrong order. So if the app is not careful, it can send to the wrong association as it has not done the notification receive. The solution is to force the app to do a close. See section 3.1. > Doing something like you propose below will definetly help... I know > in KAME we make NO attempt to do anything to keep re-use from > happening... in fact it WILL happen a lot... > > I will have to think on this if I want to add something along > these lines... sigh.. more code if I do.. and as you point out the > overhead, depending on how little re-circulation you want), can get > quite big after a bit. A life time only minimizes the probability. Explicit close solves the issue, except in the case of SCTP_AUTOCLOSE. App must be careful when using SCTP_AUTOCLOSE. -- K. Poon. kacheong.poon@sun.com ------------=_1085182823-14557-0-- From kacheong.poon@sun.com Fri May 21 19:44:02 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA13136 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRJgI-0003f9-O2 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:44:02 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJfP-0003Y7-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:43:07 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJeT-0003Lv-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:42:09 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (171.68.223.138) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 May 2004 16:39:46 -0700 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4LNfIVh019056; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4LNf3Z4014572 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405212341.i4LNf3Z4014572@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1085182863-14570-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: How unique do instances of sctp_assoc_id need to be? List-Id: sctp-impl To: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com From: Kacheong Poon X-Nails-Approved: kacheong.poon@sun.com Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:40:15 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1085182863-14570-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Caitlin Bestler wrote: > One simple solution is to have an "index", which determines the > cycle length, and a "serial number" which is changed each > time an index is re-issued. The association id is then formed > from the combination (via any of numerous possible methods). > Given an association id you can quickly find the index, and > the control data. You then check the serial number to make > sure that if this is a stale association ID it is *very* stale. > > It doesn't achieve the maximum cycle time for the number of > bits in the association ID, but it does allow storage to be > scaled to match the maximum number of association IDs > rather than the association ID re-use span. Yes, this was similar to one of the ideas to get around the problem. But we thought that the aid resue is really an interface problem, not an implementation problem. So to solve it cleanly, it should be done in the interface. This is the same issue as a file descriptor, and we know how it is handled. -- K. Poon. kacheong.poon@sun.com ------------=_1085182863-14570-0-- From kacheong.poon@sun.com Fri May 21 19:44:03 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA13154 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRJgJ-0003fE-Dq for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:44:03 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJfQ-0003YF-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:43:08 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRJeT-0003Lv-01 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:42:09 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 May 2004 16:39:57 -0700 Received: from nailgun.cisco.com (nailgun.cisco.com [171.69.11.147]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i4LNfVfS026557; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nailscatch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nailgun.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i4LNfGZ4014585 for sctp-impl-filtered; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200405212341.i4LNfGZ4014585@nailgun.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1085182876-14583-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: NAILS X-Brought-To-You-BY: djohnsen, stharms, Enterprise Messaging, and the letter "E" Subject: Re: 1-many style sendmsg() with MSG_EOF and no assoc List-Id: sctp-impl To: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com From: Kacheong Poon X-Nails-Approved: kacheong.poon@sun.com Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:40:58 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1085182876-14583-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Sridhar Samudrala wrote: > This issue was recently raised on lksctp-developers mailing list. > I would like to know how the other implementation of SCTP handle > sendmsg() with MSG_EOF flag and no data on a 1-many style socket when > no association is present. > > There are 2 cases here. > 1. The association is never created. This can be considered as a bug in the > app. > 2. The association was created and auto-closed, but the app is not yet > aware of it. > > I think distinguishing the above 2 cases is not trivial as it needs > maintaining additional state info about auto-closed assocs. I think 1 is the right choice, return an error to the app immediately. -- K. 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List-Id: sctp-impl To: Kacheong Poon From: "La Monte H.P. Yarroll" Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com X-Nails-Approved: piggy@timesys.com Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:36:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1085492375-2717-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Kacheong Poon wrote: > Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > > Those that need to use the associd and track it somehow > > need to watch those pesky little association ending notifications.. so > > that they will not have an issue with sending a message to > > the wrong association for instance... > > > It can be worse than that as the notification receive and sending > can be in the wrong order. So if the app is not careful, it can > send to the wrong association as it has not done the notification > receive. The solution is to force the app to do a close. See > section 3.1. At least in Linux, we can tell if the app has done a receive of the end notification. Is this not true for Solaris? I know that Streams hides a lot of information from the implementation... > > Doing something like you propose below will definetly help... I know > > in KAME we make NO attempt to do anything to keep re-use from > > happening... in fact it WILL happen a lot... > > > > I will have to think on this if I want to add something along > > these lines... sigh.. more code if I do.. and as you point out the > > overhead, depending on how little re-circulation you want), can get > > quite big after a bit. > > > A life time only minimizes the probability. Explicit close > solves the issue, except in the case of SCTP_AUTOCLOSE. App > must be careful when using SCTP_AUTOCLOSE. From the perspective of the SCTP implementation, is it sufficient to not reuse the identifier until the ending notification is delivered? Hmm... I can answer my own question--no. An implementation needs to keep the associd until all references to it are gone, both in the upward bound queue of messages to the app and in the downward bound queue of requests from the app. Is there a way that an app writer can know that they will never see mention of a particular association again? 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