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Security ADs,

Having passed a WG Last Call, draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-14.txt is ready
for AD review.

[Area] SECURITY
[WG]   syslog
[I-D]  draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-14.txt
[Qver] draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-05.txt
[Shep] Chris Lonvick <clonvick@cisco.com>


The WG last call turned up no additional comments or discussion.


   1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet
        Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready
        to forward to the IESG for publication?

Yes.


   1.b) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members
        and key non-WG members?  Do you have any concerns about the
        depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

Adequate review has occurred from WG members, and it has been reviewed
by others.  I am satisfied about the level of review.


   1.c) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a
        particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational
        complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)?

No.


   1.d) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document that
        you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of?  For
        example, perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of the
        document, or have concerns whether there really is a need for
        it.  In any event, if your issues have been discussed in the WG
        and the WG has indicated it that it still wishes to advance the
        document, detail those concerns in the write-up.

No.


   1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
        represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with
        others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and
        agree with it?

There is strong consensus to publish this document.


   1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
        discontent?  If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
        separate email to the Responsible Area Director.

No.


   1.g) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to all of the
        ID nits? (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html).

Section 9.1 and 9.2 state that the IANA must "maintain" a registry.  This
needs to be changed to state that the IANA is requested to "create" a
registry for the described values.  The author can make this minor change
when working with the RFC Editor.


   1.h) Is the document split into normative and informative references?
        Are there normative references to IDs, where the IDs are not
        also ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state?
        (note here that the RFC editor will not publish an RFC with
        normative references to IDs, it will delay publication until all
        such IDs are also ready for publication as RFCs.)

The references are split into normative and informational references.
The document is dependent upon draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-05.txt
but that is being submitted along with this document.


   1.ijk) Write-up section:

        *    Technical Summary

This document describes the syslog protocol, which is used to convey
event notification messages.  This protocol utilizes a layered
architecture, which allows the use of any number of transport
protocols for transmission of syslog messages.  It also provides a
message format that allows vendor-specific extensions to be provided
in a structured way.

        *    Working Group Summary

The consensus of the working group was to publish this as a
standards-track document.

        *    Protocol Quality

It is possible that there are implementations of this document in
various stages of completion at this time.  Some equipment vendors have
indicated interest in supporting this document, and some non-commercial
implementations are also expected.

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Security ADs,

Having passed a WG Last Call, draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-05.txt is
ready for AD review.

[Area] SECURITY
[WG]   syslog
[I-D]  draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-05.txt
[Qver] draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-05.txt
[Shep] Chris Lonvick <clonvick@cisco.com>


The WG last call turned up no additional comments or discussion.


   1.a) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the Internet
        Draft (ID), and in particular, do they believe this ID is ready
        to forward to the IESG for publication?

Yes.


   1.b) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members
        and key non-WG members?  Do you have any concerns about the
        depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

Adequate review has occurred from WG members, and it has been reviewed
by others.  I am satisfied about the level of review.


   1.c) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a
        particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational
        complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)?

No.


   1.d) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document that
        you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of?  For
        example, perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of the
        document, or have concerns whether there really is a need for
        it.  In any event, if your issues have been discussed in the WG
        and the WG has indicated it that it still wishes to advance the
        document, detail those concerns in the write-up.

No.


   1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
        represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with
        others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and
        agree with it?

There is strong consensus to publish this document.


   1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
        discontent?  If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in
        separate email to the Responsible Area Director.

No.


   1.g) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to all of the
        ID nits? (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html).

Yes.


   1.h) Is the document split into normative and informative references?
        Are there normative references to IDs, where the IDs are not
        also ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state?
        (note here that the RFC editor will not publish an RFC with
        normative references to IDs, it will delay publication until all
        such IDs are also ready for publication as RFCs.)

The references are split into normative and informational references.
The document is dependant upon draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-14.txt but that
is being submitted along with this document.


   1.ijk) Write-up section:

        *    Technical Summary

This document describes the transport for syslog messages over UDP/
IPv4 or UDP/IPv6.  The syslog protocol layered architecture provides
for support of any number of transport mappings.  However, for
interoperability purposes, syslog protocol implementors are required
to support this transport protocol.


        *    Working Group Summary

The consensus of the working group was to publish this as a
standards-track document.

        *    Protocol Quality

It is possible that there are implementations of this document in
various stages of completion at this time.  Some equipment vendors have
indicated interest in supporting this document, and some non-commercial
implementations are also expected.

===
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Hi Folks,

I've asked Marshall Rose and Darren New to update RFC 3195 with respect to
syslog-protocol.  There are some implementations of RAW but I need to ask
if anyone either has an implementation of COOKED, or is planning on doing
an implementation of COOKED?  If so, then your comments on the document
will be greatly appreciated.  If not, we should consider removing it from
the document.

(Note on the RFC process: An RFC that has a REQUIRED feature that no one
is implementing will not have an easy time moving from a Draft Standard to
a Proposed Standard.  It would then be very difficult for it to become a
Full Standard.  If no one is going to do COOKED we should remove it from
the document so that implementations can claim compliance with the full
specification.)

Thanks,
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To: "'Chris Lonvick'" <clonvick@cisco.com>
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Subject: RE: [Syslog-sec] 3195bis - anyone doing COOKED?
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Chris,

The IHE implementation specification for RFC 3881 specifies COOKED.  See 
http://www.ihe.net/Technical_Framework/upload/IHE_ITI_Node_Authentication_Se
curity_2004_08-15.pdf

It has been implemented already.

Glen Marshall

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Subject: [Syslog-sec] 3195bis - anyone doing COOKED?


Hi Folks,

I've asked Marshall Rose and Darren New to update RFC 3195 with respect to
syslog-protocol.  There are some implementations of RAW but I need to ask
if anyone either has an implementation of COOKED, or is planning on doing
an implementation of COOKED?  If so, then your comments on the document
will be greatly appreciated.  If not, we should consider removing it from
the document.

(Note on the RFC process: An RFC that has a REQUIRED feature that no one
is implementing will not have an easy time moving from a Draft Standard to
a Proposed Standard.  It would then be very difficult for it to become a
Full Standard.  If no one is going to do COOKED we should remove it from
the document so that implementations can claim compliance with the full
specification.)

Thanks,
Chris
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Chris,

I have at least a partial implementation in liblogging
(http://www.liblogging.org). I think its currently in the CVS version
only (lack of demand), but I am in the process of moving it into the
main branch. Once done, our intension is to include COOKED into our
windows based apps and probably in our linux syslogd-replacement
(rsyslog - www.rsyslog.com), too.

The hardest part of COOKED is the relay procesing, I think there could
be some room for additional compliance levels.

I'll try to prepare a larger message, but I thought I provide some quick
facts. I need to leave the office now and will not be in tomorrow.

Rainer

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> Subject: [Syslog-sec] 3195bis - anyone doing COOKED?
>=20
> Hi Folks,
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> with respect to
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> planning on doing
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> removing it from
> the document.
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> (Note on the RFC process: An RFC that has a REQUIRED feature=20
> that no one
> is implementing will not have an easy time moving from a=20
> Draft Standard to
> a Proposed Standard.  It would then be very difficult for it=20
> to become a
> Full Standard.  If no one is going to do COOKED we should=20
> remove it from
> the document so that implementations can claim compliance=20
> with the full
> specification.)
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> Thanks,
> Chris
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