From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 01 09:29:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ina73-0005w2-UG; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:29:33 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ina72-0005uD-Iy for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:29:32 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ina71-0005th-Me; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:29:31 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ina71-0000m3-CB; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:29:31 -0400 Received: from [10.2.0.88] (70.57.125.209.transedge.com [209.125.57.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id lA1DTTS7096066 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:29:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:29:26 -0700 To: ietf-action@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Do not allow spaces in the file names of Internet Drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sometime yesterday, a new draft was issued whose file name is: draft-lee-pce-wson-routing and wavelength-00.txt Note that there are spaces in the file name. That has already caused some tools to fail disasterously because spaces are never supposed to appear in file names. Please fix the name of this draft as soon as possible. More importantly, please puts an automated check in your system to prevent this from happening in the future. Thanks! --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 01 13:34:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Indvl-0006KE-Tm; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:34:09 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Indvj-0006EE-T0 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:34:07 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Indvj-0006Dz-J1; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:34:07 -0400 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IndvJ-000221-SV; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:34:07 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53616 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IndvI-0005o8-QQ; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <472A0DF4.5080907@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:33:40 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Do not allow spaces in the file names of Internet Drafts References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, ietf-action@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Cc: ietf-action@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-11-01 14:29 Paul Hoffman said the following: > Sometime yesterday, a new draft was issued whose file name is: > draft-lee-pce-wson-routing and wavelength-00.txt > Note that there are spaces in the file name. That has already caused > some tools to fail disasterously because spaces are never supposed to > appear in file names. > > Please fix the name of this draft as soon as possible. More > importantly, please puts an automated check in your system to prevent > this from happening in the future. Thanks! Woohoo! That's a whopper. I have to admit that while idnits reports 'no such file' to each of the three space-separated parts of the file name, it does *not* return an error code, which it should -- and will as soon as I push out v2.05.00 Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 05 13:09:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip6OU-00050r-DL; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:09:50 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip6OT-00050j-HD for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:09:49 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip6OT-00050H-7Q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:09:49 -0500 Received: from [2001:14b8:400::130] (helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ip6OS-0005OW-Uv for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:09:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524451986C7 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:09:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCF219867C for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:09:48 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <472F5C6C.8010300@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:09:48 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF TOOLS discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Subject: [Tools-discuss] id submission tool bugs/features X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org The tool is unable to figure out what the draft name is if the docName attribute in XML2RFC did not include the draft revision number (draft-foo-00). Even if the actual uploaded file name would contain the -00. Perhaps the uploaded file name doesn't make it through the web upload, or maybe the information just isn't used. In any case, XML2RFC does not complain of such errors, and the error message given by the submission tool was not very helpful: Your request was not processed due to the following error(s): /Previous version does not exist for this document/ I was submitting a -00. I would suggest that at least the error message be made more descriptive. The tool thinks that in my draft the first section is a part of the abstract. (draft-arkko-rfc2780-proto-update-00.txt, if anyone wants to debug). Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 10:00:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8rs-0006On-KH; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8rr-0006Oi-JT for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8rr-0006OM-6G for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:27 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8rn-0007oa-4r for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:26 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq8rf-0003R7-PN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:00:15 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:00:15 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:00:15 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:59:48 +0100 Organization: Lines: 23 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Subject: [Tools-discuss] HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I collect some I-Ds for offline reading in a local directory. >From time to time I start a REXX script to get the latest versions, it uses HEAD HTTP/1.0 requests, example reply: | HTTP/1.1 302 Found | Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:45:30 GMT | Server: Apache/2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 [...] | X-Docname: draft-hutzler-spamops | X-Docbase: draft-hutzler-spamops | X-Matches: 1 | X-Exact: True | Location: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hutzler-spamops-08.txt | Connection: close | Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 In this case I'd like to know that this draft was published as RFC 5068, what's a good way to do this ? Could the tools server redirect to the RFC in this case ? I'm talking about text/plain and HEAD, parsing text/html below is out (my side is V.90, and the bandwidth of the tools servers is also limited). Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 10:17:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq98Z-0000oE-VL; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:17:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq98Y-0000nd-Pa for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:17:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq98Y-0000nV-DI for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:17:42 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq98U-0008PW-NX for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:17:42 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Nov 2007 15:17:37 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.87]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2007 16:17:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/HAqAEZFLH3lJYsFVJGO8lDLr93v7wVwbu5HqUo8 EkaNnpEIeBclQ7 Message-ID: <4733288F.20205@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:17:35 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Frank Ellermann wrote: > Hi, I collect some I-Ds for offline reading in a local directory. >> >From time to time I start a REXX script to get the latest versions, > it uses HEAD HTTP/1.0 requests, example reply: > ... You may want to look at... . Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 10:19:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq99w-0002Wt-15; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:19:08 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq99v-0002WH-9M for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:19:07 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq99u-0002W9-VB for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq99u-0001lW-F8 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iq99m-0006kj-1B for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:18:58 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:18:58 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:18:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:18:19 +0100 Organization: Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <472F5C6C.8010300@piuha.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: id submission tool bugs/features X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Jari Arkko wrote: > The tool thinks that in my draft the first section is a part > of the abstract. (draft-arkko-rfc2780-proto-update-00.txt, > if anyone wants to debug). I had a similar problem last week with news-nntp-uri-06, this week (-07) I tested a manual override to truncate the abstract. Apparently my I-D then ended up in a "manual posting requested" limbo, an ietf-action@ietf ticket rescued it, but the abstract wasn't truncated to the "real" abstract. Frank --=20 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 11:44:32 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAUZ-0001zs-TO; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:44:31 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAUY-0001yO-JH for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:44:30 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAUY-0001yF-7m for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:44:30 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAUV-0003A0-Ve for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:44:30 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so109583wra for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:44:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=n+Qf7RA0GjPcGyCJvmfUP2BuzWwDOEfoRS6ojqsa7Yc=; b=T2CvTCnIYPUPaKTXwlfvJ3+k3GPhpNfG5OGlNiLpPK7PIf2hessIUsmCrRnDgbjcWwSPRmy1hC06g+PBqX4MnkwIxkSDtZNYmgjGjubz2z6jlipRWU+egc9KjgcYWeHUIMxKI17GsM591k7/BYvnrV6DqpbzrRQDthK31S5hGsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cHzcvRWdC3nIdfKf1EAG2Bq6MdIHvbG4mxowdNWjxKdExyJLkhUSejY08mf6AfdaSu3Icm4h5iTQPTNvScLHqFjobIaCw2QYtMtJ9DXvcDwQxndzMpaakgYOzbgslcsnLXC27lzEeOgYRb/XD5hPs7Z5hBIGmUnacKRWhaRhoYE= Received: by 10.90.93.6 with SMTP id q6mr643419agb.1194540267517; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.96.19 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:44:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:44:27 -0800 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Tools Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: Vancouver IETF Code Sprint In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is coming up quickly, so I'd like to get more discussion of what's on the table. There are a few possible work plans: - Port password-protected tools from the perl CGI to the django framework - Updates to existing django-based tools (e.g., more information on a draft at https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-name/, or similar) - Completely new django-based tools (e.g., new atom feeds, completely new views of the data) - Updates to other pages, e.g., those at tools.ietf.org. (This was not envisioned when we announced the sprint, but nearly all of Lars' suggestions are for the wg pages on tools.ietf.org) Obviously, the ideas don't need to just come from those attending - if you had a wish for the IETF web site, what would it be? Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 11:46:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAW5-00048w-Fa; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:46:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAW4-00044i-GW for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:46:04 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAW4-00044X-5V for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:46:04 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([193.234.218.130] helo=smtp.piuha.net) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAW3-0004uP-Nq for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:46:04 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097E419867C; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:46:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1411985FB; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:46:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47333D41.7020707@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:45:53 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: id submission tool bugs/features References: <472F5C6C.8010300@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > > I had a similar problem last week with news-nntp-uri-06, this > week (-07) I tested a manual override to truncate the abstract. > > Apparently my I-D then ended up in a "manual posting requested" > limbo, an ietf-action@ietf ticket rescued it, but the abstract > wasn't truncated to the "real" abstract. > Right. I chose incorrect metadata over going into the manual queue :-) Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 11:53:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAdP-0004J6-MK; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:53:39 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAdN-0004IR-Nh for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:53:37 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAdN-0004Hx-Df for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:53:37 -0500 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.177]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAdJ-0003TU-GP for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:53:37 -0500 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r23so10636elf for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SMDUlTH6RspJNngmCVRC4UdvQRUZM/pcmwH3SPGa9VI=; b=UCEKVOI4YPjKiB/XxJe/5UxgU3pxhs19T62Sl053tdL40b8UC4hj6Xg+6TuCixAfi5o0O2+f3g9+NJRn/r3bLmhp76j2btaOm1D/3onGQM8xFU4f7Z50QcSvnadP2rQFql90r2ajlB510NfMfDj3TKCyY0ECQLRbEXCmHh6wi6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ALkMwsiKAnrjaDxFt4cuIKeZl/+nr7jC7HUp+DxCzgzDvVXU3oIzy7JYtwewd8qXTjnIsI46q0OpioK57akGns8ZtH9ADB/jeNNTljYVxSwa2Yi1Sb7wFFG1EQnmuxhcH7htcHidyPNvMYlOuYTdj2oQuWRu5QyXj2Dw+Si5QlM= Received: by 10.100.253.12 with SMTP id a12mr1148176ani.1194540812806; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.96.19 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:53:32 -0800 From: "Bill Fenner" To: "Frank Ellermann" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: id submission tool bugs/features In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <472F5C6C.8010300@piuha.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 11/8/07, Frank Ellermann wrote: > I had a similar problem last week with news-nntp-uri-06, this > week (-07) I tested a manual override to truncate the abstract. > > Apparently my I-D then ended up in a "manual posting requested" > limbo, an ietf-action@ietf ticket rescued it, but the abstract > wasn't truncated to the "real" abstract. Frank, To be clear, did you have to submit the ietf-action ticket yourself or do you mean that the tool submitted the ticket for you? And you edited the abstract using the tool, but the abstract in the announcement was still the incorrect one? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 12:05:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAok-0000cQ-6n; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:22 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAoj-0000cJ-6x for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:21 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAoi-0000bO-Lr for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:20 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAoi-0005aa-7r for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:20 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqAoV-00019N-OO for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:05:07 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:05:07 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:05:07 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:04:33 +0100 Organization: Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <4733288F.20205@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Julian Reschke wrote: =20 > You may want to look at...=20 > . Interesting, but admittedly I'm still in the "can create XML" state, "can parse XML" is significantly tougher if done from scratch... ;-) Oops, whatever creates state.xml, it has the same "abstract"=20 oddity as the I-D submission tool (see parallel thread). The .../draft/draft-hutzler.../state file is promising, same info as in state.xml organized in lines instead of elements, I could simply take the line starting with "Doc-url:". Thanks, I didn't know this feature, is in need of a "can create DTD" (in 2008) ? Frank =20 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 12:20:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqB3Q-00087b-S9; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:20:32 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqB3P-00082q-0i for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:20:31 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqB3O-00082Q-MW for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqB3O-00068V-88 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqB2G-0003iS-4x for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:19:20 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:19:20 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:19:20 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:18:14 +0100 Organization: Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <472F5C6C.8010300@piuha.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: id submission tool bugs/features X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Bill Fenner wrote: =20 > did you have to submit the ietf-action ticket yourself The submission tool mentions "one or two workdays", after about 50 hours I lost my patience and sent an e-mail to ietf-action@ietf. There was an ugly bug in version -06 of this I-D, that's why I wanted -07 out, and on another list somebody sent feedback yesterday, I didn't want him to get the impression that -07 intentionally ignored his (later, from my POV) contribution. > you edited the abstract using the tool, but the abstract > in the announcement was still the incorrect one? Yes, also in .../state.xml and .../state. Apparently an oddity with the title in -06 was fixed, the -07 title is fine. I only saw this now after Julian's article about the .../state.xml for draft-hutzler-spamops (RFC 5068). Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 12:28:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqBAk-0003VD-20; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:28:06 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqBAj-0003Su-4W for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:28:05 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqBAi-0003Sm-Pa for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:28:04 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqBAi-0006VN-Bx for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:28:04 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqBAW-000626-UY for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:27:52 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:27:52 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:27:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:27:08 +0100 Organization: Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-96.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Vancouver IETF Code Sprint X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Bill Fenner wrote: > e.g., new atom feeds If you're talking about feeds tracking drafts (outside of what the tracker does after PubReq) some folks might like this. Or rather somebody asked me how to track what happens with a draft. After I let it expire for some weeks, waiting for new events on the Usefor and 2822upd fronts. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 15:44:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqEEv-00023W-Iq; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:44:37 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqEEu-00022g-Cs for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:44:36 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqEEu-000217-1u for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:44:36 -0500 Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.204.226]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqEEq-0002is-QU for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:44:36 -0500 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id o21so1358267qba for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:44:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wwGhw4QCMAwlxn8sNQMRI5uC5IbCc1lRkzjU4Fda7UY=; b=hf8cnvy6ABsWE4rUQC/Saw+LSh2CUmKOftVVbrAFuzwl31U6jkUVfT3w82V5ulyWCh0fFEaOHie+8pOoEa7GprNfMZakCF6WobUppR9LJz4kQSehedRHsTdyQyiCcFynWKzImkLR1lUr3AHXqpTHlgKjmzZxxS2Oygq6l8Jlvhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QcNxdXlhi/GfK35P41kmchWGcNoKYkUqTWiLMzjPiuPu3r/DfauYf8bsp66hHPRDt/opesx27ngONH3kiFHHaAZdRlTxBtcN3G0yudgdh5QuVQnAZeM7ET1o5h7yWHarfqajrEsvnGSoFOJnO8N5tnbiUI2ajGDfK7hP+/x3Go0= Received: by 10.114.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr273707wae.1194554671439; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?130.216.38.124? ( [130.216.38.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j7sm1880316wah.2007.11.08.12.44.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:44:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47337527.2020303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:44:23 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > In this case I'd like to know that this draft was published as > RFC 5068, what's a good way to do this ? One challenge with this is that there is no consistency about this in the I-D tracker; recent drafts are annotated with the RFC number but not older ones, so I don't see where tools.ietf.org could get historical data. A related issue is when draft-a is replaced by draft-b (for example, when an individual submission is renamed as a WG draft). Again, there is no consistency in the I-D tracker. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 16:39:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqF5b-0002Sx-OV; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:03 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqF5a-0002Sq-Fr for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqF5a-0002Sd-6A for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.170] helo=mgw-ext11.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqF5W-0004Qs-9k for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext11.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id lA8Lcnu3029902; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:38:54 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:38:49 +0200 Received: from mgw-int02.ntc.nokia.com ([172.21.143.97]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:38:48 +0200 Received: from [131.215.112.180] (daec-linuxvpn05999.americas.nokia.com [10.241.59.99]) by mgw-int02.ntc.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id lA8LcjkJ024725; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 23:38:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <47337527.2020303@gmail.com> References: <47337527.2020303@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:38:39 -0800 To: ext Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2007 21:38:48.0537 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF2F5490:01C8224F] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6cca30437e2d04f45110f2ff8dc1b1d5 Cc: Frank Ellermann , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0744669998==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org --===============0744669998== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--645128273; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" --Apple-Mail-10--645128273 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 2007-11-8, at 12:44, ext Brian E Carpenter wrote: > recent drafts are annotated with the > RFC number but not older ones, so I don't see where tools.ietf.org > could get historical data. The secretariat database has this information eve for older drafts, if I remember correctly. > A related issue is when draft-a is replaced by draft-b (for > example, when an individual submission is renamed as a WG draft). > Again, there is no consistency in the I-D tracker. Right, that currently requires a manual ticket to the secretariat. (I have a script that implements a heuristic to figure out replaced- by relations based on draft names, if anyone's interested.) 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0744669998==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Nov 08 17:44:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqG7H-00006H-N2; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:44:51 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqG7G-00005s-Vs for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:44:50 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqG7G-00005e-6m for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:44:50 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqG7C-0007Lu-Bz for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:44:50 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37091 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IqG7B-00038h-8U; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:44:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4733915D.1090309@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:44:45 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: HEAD requests to tools.ietf.org/id/draft-... References: <4733288F.20205@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Frank, On 2007-11-08 18:04 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Julian Reschke wrote: > >> You may want to look at... >> . > > Interesting, but admittedly I'm still in the "can create XML" > state, "can parse XML" is significantly tougher if done from > scratch... ;-) > > Oops, whatever creates state.xml, it has the same "abstract" > oddity as the I-D submission tool (see parallel thread). Yes; the data there comes from the abstract in the secretariat database, ultimately. > The .../draft/draft-hutzler.../state file is promising, same > info as in state.xml organized in lines instead of elements, > I could simply take the line starting with "Doc-url:". Sounds like a good plan. The XML file is actually created from the '822' file, which is created from the history file, which is created from 10+ different sources which are collected and diffed every hour. > Thanks, I didn't know this feature, is in need of a > "can create DTD" (in 2008) ? Umm... here you lost me ,;-) Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 09 04:12:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPuH-00088M-Nl; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:12:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPuG-00086P-E0 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:12:04 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPuG-000842-3N for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:12:04 -0500 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPuD-00032F-7u for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:12:01 -0500 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id lA99BsxQ005797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:11:55 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: "Bill Fenner" References: OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:071109:tools-discuss@ietf.org::q4gW1pdcIcs9Ig0S:12B2 X-Hashcash: 1:22:071109:fenner@gmail.com::M0LLMIFRaCOcwBDk:DHYn Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:11:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Bill Fenner's message of "Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:44:27 -0800") Message-ID: <87ode3zn9i.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Cc: Tools Discussion Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Vancouver IETF Code Sprint X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org "Bill Fenner" writes: > This is coming up quickly, so I'd like to get more discussion of > what's on the table. > > There are a few possible work plans: > > - Port password-protected tools from the perl CGI to the django framework How about (optionally) supporting OpenID for authentication? Having a password for each and every site gives a bad user experience. If developer time is the limiting factor, I would volunteer to integrate it. I would expect the existing approach to continue to work, for those that doesn't want to use OpenID. /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 09 12:55:53 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqY5A-000845-M2; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:55:52 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqY59-00081U-9C for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:55:51 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqY58-00081M-SZ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:55:50 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqY55-0007gz-6s for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:55:50 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqY4t-0007iX-Hp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:55:38 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.255]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:55:35 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:55:35 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:54:46 +0100 Organization: Lines: 19 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Subject: [Tools-discuss] New RFC errata procedure X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I completely missed that there's a new "errata" procedure. The tools servers also don't support it yet, e.g. 4408 + 4646 still get the old links: http://www.rfc-editor.org/cgi-bin/errataSearch.pl?rfc=3D4408 http://www.rfc-editor.org/cgi-bin/errataSearch.pl?rfc=3D4646 The new links with additional fresh errata are here: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D4408 http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D4646 In the case of 2069 "fresh" doesn't exactly cover it, but... http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2069 ...was published some days ago. Frank =20 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 09 17:27:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqcJa-0003AI-3E; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:27:02 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqcJZ-00038p-2l for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:27:01 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqcJY-00038g-Or for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:27:00 -0500 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqcJY-0007vG-GC for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:27:00 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.147] (stdhcp-147.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.147]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290AE2AC75 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:26:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4734DE96.6030109@neustar.biz> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:26:30 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] wrt web SSO (was: Re: Vancouver IETF Code Sprint) References: <87ode3zn9i.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87ode3zn9i.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Simon Josefsson wrote: > "Bill Fenner" writes: > > How about (optionally) supporting OpenID for authentication? Having a > password for each and every site gives a bad user experience. If > developer time is the limiting factor, I would volunteer to integrate > it. I would expect the existing approach to continue to work, for those > that doesn't want to use OpenID. well, one should really ask about whether to support some form(s) of Web SSO on the site rather than one particular protocol. And whether it's really necessary, e.g. due to browser username/password convenience features. And to uplevel even further, the discussion should really be what identity providers are considered as acceptable risks by the IETF/ISOC site admins? And then one works to support the protocol(s) wielded by those identity providers. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 09 18:54:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqdgT-0005Fo-6h; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:54:45 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqdgR-0005Fj-Ts for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqdgR-0005Fb-KG for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0500 Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org ([194.146.105.14]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqdgO-0004al-2V for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:54:43 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44320 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IqdgJ-0000Wy-6O; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:54:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4734F33B.6020706@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:54:35 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New RFC errata procedure References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Frank, On 2007-11-09 18:54 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Hi, I completely missed that there's a new "errata" procedure. > The tools servers also don't support it yet, e.g. 4408 + 4646 > still get the old links: ... I've been alerted about this, and have changed the scripts; I've also asked the RFC Editor to add apache redirects to the new URLs when they officially transition (I don't thin they've done that yet). However, there are a lot of html conversion page which still use the old links, and as long as the old links also work, I'm going to let the default conversion roll-over (every 3 months) take care of this -- I don't want to introduce too much gratuitous churn in the pages, as that will invite Google to scan them more often than necessary, changing the load of the servers noticeably ... (Looking at one of the 3 servers, I see an average 20.000 non-Google accesses to the html version of drafts and RFCs per day, and 12.000 Google accesses, but before I lowered the re-generation frequency it used to be more like 25.000 to 30.000 Google accesses per day ...) Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 09 20:46:24 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqfQT-0005GY-SL; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:46:21 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqfQT-0005GT-9y for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:46:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqfQT-0005GG-0A for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:46:21 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqfQQ-0007Xr-FX for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:46:20 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqfQH-0004zl-S9 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:46:09 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.255]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:46:09 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:46:09 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:45:36 +0100 Organization: Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <4734F33B.6020706@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-255.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: New RFC errata procedure X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: =20 > I've been alerted about this, and have changed the scripts; I've > also asked the RFC Editor to add apache redirects to the new > URLs when they officially transition Yes, that would clean it up fast. Or maybe they'll modify the old Perl script to redirect to the new PHP pages. > there are a lot of html conversion page which still use the old > links, and as long as the old links also work, I'm going to let > the default conversion roll-over (every 3 months) take care of > this Good, after waiting 33 months for the 2069 erratum 36 months is a nice number... :-) The worst part will be the "verification" of "unverified" errata, it needs an A-D or something. =20 > I don't want to introduce too much gratuitous churn in the pages, > as that will invite Google to scan them more often than > necessary, changing the load of the servers noticeably ... Maybe get a "Webmaster" account for tools.ietf.org, then you can tell Googlebot that it shouldn't look too often. You can also say so in a sitemap.xml, but I don't know if Googlebot respects that, and I don't know if tools.ietf.org has a sitemap.xml (if yes it's not yet listed in tools.ietf.org/robots.txt) > I see an average 20.000 non-Google accesses to the html version > of drafts and RFCs per day, and 12.000 Google accesses Do you mean Google =3D Googlebot + family ? The "rxgeturl" crap is my script trying to update collected drafts on my local disk, if you ever wanted to know. :-) Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 10 05:26:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqnXo-0002Sx-08; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:26:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqnXm-0002Np-KL for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:26:26 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqnXm-0002Nh-9H for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:26:26 -0500 Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org ([194.146.105.14]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqnXl-0003M5-Hn for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:26:26 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36152 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IqnXg-0000gJ-Qm; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:26:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4735874C.8050306@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:26:20 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: New RFC errata procedure References: <4734F33B.6020706@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Frank, On 2007-11-10 02:45 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> I've been alerted about this, and have changed the scripts; I've >> also asked the RFC Editor to add apache redirects to the new >> URLs when they officially transition > > Yes, that would clean it up fast. Or maybe they'll modify the old > Perl script to redirect to the new PHP pages. > >> there are a lot of html conversion page which still use the old >> links, and as long as the old links also work, I'm going to let >> the default conversion roll-over (every 3 months) take care of >> this > > Good, after waiting 33 months for the 2069 erratum 36 months is a > nice number... :-) The worst part will be the "verification" of > "unverified" errata, it needs an A-D or something. Hmm. This makes me realise that I probably should trigger new conversion when there's a change in errata status. Mph. Placed on my mental to-do list, but quite far down, I'm afraid... >> I don't want to introduce too much gratuitous churn in the pages, >> as that will invite Google to scan them more often than >> necessary, changing the load of the servers noticeably ... > > Maybe get a "Webmaster" account for tools.ietf.org, then you can > tell Googlebot that it shouldn't look too often. You can also say > so in a sitemap.xml, but I don't know if Googlebot respects that, > and I don't know if tools.ietf.org has a sitemap.xml (if yes it's > not yet listed in tools.ietf.org/robots.txt) I have one, but don't see that I can control googlebot visits with the needed granularity. Will check again, later today. >> I see an average 20.000 non-Google accesses to the html version >> of drafts and RFCs per day, and 12.000 Google accesses > > Do you mean Google = Googlebot + family ? Yes. Any log line which contains "Gooblebot". > The "rxgeturl" crap is > my script trying to update collected drafts on my local disk, if > you ever wanted to know. :-) I haven't had time to pore over the apache logs that closely in a long time ... ;-) Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 10 12:46:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IquPq-0001IB-Cz; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:46:42 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IquPp-0001Bq-9c for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:46:41 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IquPo-0001Bh-Uk for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:46:40 -0500 Received: from bortzmeyer.netaktiv.com ([80.67.170.53] helo=mail.bortzmeyer.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IquPo-0000ko-Jb for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:46:40 -0500 Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id E7AFF240822; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:46:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by horcrux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8CEE158EAA; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:26 -0200 (BRST) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:32:26 -0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Frank Ellermann Message-ID: <20071110173226.GA23554@laperouse.bortzmeyer.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Transport: UUCP rules X-Operating-System: Ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: New RFC errata procedure X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:54:46PM +0100, Frank Ellermann wrote a message of 19 lines which said: > Hi, I completely missed that there's a new "errata" procedure. AFAIK, it is still in beta test (do note the new interface does not appear on the errata page, errors reported with the new interface are not always listed, etc). _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 10 16:59:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqyMk-0001tC-L2; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:59:46 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqmW9-000665-R0 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:20:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqmW9-00065b-Gy for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:20:41 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqmW7-0001B6-Qo for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:20:41 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so1396992wah for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:20:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=8af5csET50wh+VCkTt+0Ao8FMqI/wNkvn+NwpMRJpF8=; b=N6xQi7+Wx2vU6s37tbOfcFk9yMJbZc7rsEUkHPXd5dfeX6uGyw+8ZWMLAty1ZLK9xsnwS5/VM7tX1sCn4NyQZmYURX6hhldzfaGV3+y9lxx618tbIuS7RnHNo9kupl91VjQYAjZbktiJTa7ELLfAZTCYIMsB2uG8BzolnXkswa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=CVoULhaHsoCWm4i5FC58iW9JkhVVGmjj4tzZQON/7urfsajYjvwjY/sjisTg/1ovHNzFiglRK6VSsIucbD4Df2jw0zicbUZI/KRIXLhlsp8HxPhsz2gHWHRvvU3AOm4TOAI/jCWvboliHvIFQZf9ofaMMDqPl2hl01DZ5dBdQcA= Received: by 10.114.130.1 with SMTP id c1mr1617838wad.1194686438447; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.74.4 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:20:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1baa801f0711100120p2da49d6dwe2576de998325438@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:20:38 +0100 From: "Alexandre Dulaunoy" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ec6dbb85f194d94 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:59:45 -0500 Subject: [Tools-discuss] IPv6 tools.ietf.org not reachable - IPv4 ok X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Guys, I'm using tools.ietf.org and it looks like that the IPv6 IP of tools.ietf.org is not reachable anymore. But the IPv4 interface works ok. It would be nice if you could re-enable the IPv6 interface. traceroute to tools.ietf.org (2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb) from 2001:6f8:202:20f::2, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets 1 gw-528.bru-01.be.sixxs.net (2001:6f8:202:20f::1) 90.907 ms 21.937 ms 15.643 ms 2 sixxs-gw.gdbru.be.easynet.net (2001:6f8:200:1003::1) 25.532 ms 32.04 ms 22.938 ms 3 fe0-0-1-0.br3.gdbru.be.easynet.net (2001:6f8:200:6::3) 15.217 ms 31.98 ms 30.407 ms 4 2001:6f8:1:2:87:86:71:164 (2001:6f8:1:2:87:86:71:164) 30.018 ms 29.258 ms 30.203 ms 5 2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:49 (2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:49) 44.646 ms 31.241 ms 30.208 ms 6 2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:51 (2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:51) 41.819 ms 43.94 ms 53.148 ms 7 2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:53 (2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:53) 75.196 ms 88.93 ms 61.12 ms 8 2001:6f8:1:2:87:86:77:55 (2001:6f8:1:2:87:86:77:55) 45.832 ms 29.937 ms * 9 2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:62 (2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:77:62) 44.341 ms 36.888 ms 31.727 ms 10 2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:71:237 (2001:6f8:1:0:87:86:71:237) 34.749 ms 31.14 ms 32.207 ms 11 ge0-0-0-30.br1.ixfra.de.easynet.net (2001:6f8:800:0:1:14:209:52) 40.453 ms 29.381 ms 32.219 ms 12 fe0-0.6er0.ixfra.de.easynet.net (2001:6f8:800:0:1:4:10:40) 43.277 ms 42.605 ms 61.491 ms 13 de-cix.fra20.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:7f8::cb9:0:1) 99.162 ms 67.29 ms 89.731 ms 14 ge-4-0-0.fra10.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::1:662) 48.236 ms 32.38 ms 35.694 ms 15 so-1-0-0.fra40.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::4b0) 44.195 ms 41.552 ms 33.484 ms 16 so-0-0-0.dus11.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::1:1) 45.108 ms 42.429 ms 34.21 ms 17 so-0-0-0.ham10.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::101) 56.874 ms 91.668 ms 111.208 ms 18 so-1-0-0.cph20.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::3e1) 68.525 ms 44.996 ms 45.61 ms 19 so-0-0-0.stk10.ip6.tiscali.net (2001:668:0:2::111) 60.311 ms 58.687 ms 52.957 ms 20 2001:7f8:d:ff::73 (2001:7f8:d:ff::73) 53.293 ms 56.112 ms 65.138 ms 21 2001:698:9:2:208:21ff:fe87:3480 (2001:698:9:2:208:21ff:fe87:3480) 55.889 ms 59.927 ms !N 100.399 ms !N Thanks a lot, Kind regards, -- -- Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau) -- http://www.foo.be/ -- http://www.foo.be/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/Diary -- "Knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance -- that we can solve them" Isaac Asimov _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 10 17:22:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iqyj8-0005D5-Vo; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:54 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iqyj7-0005AJ-UC for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iqyj7-00058U-JM for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iqyj5-0006uo-8W for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42589 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Iqyj4-0001mn-9W; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:22:50 +0100 Message-ID: <47362F39.2000204@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:22:49 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandre Dulaunoy Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IPv6 tools.ietf.org not reachable - IPv4 ok References: <1baa801f0711100120p2da49d6dwe2576de998325438@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1baa801f0711100120p2da49d6dwe2576de998325438@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: a@foo.be, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Alexandre, On 2007-11-10 10:20 Alexandre Dulaunoy said the following: > Hi Guys, > > I'm using tools.ietf.org and it looks like that the IPv6 IP > of tools.ietf.org is not reachable anymore. But the IPv4 interface works ok. Sorry for the outage. Should be ok again now. Thanks for the alert! Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 04:11:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVKU-0000IB-Tl; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:11:38 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVKT-0000GX-2G for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:11:37 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVKS-0000GO-3K for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:11:36 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVKR-0001VG-Ea for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:11:36 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59798 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrVKQ-0004Ct-To; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:11:34 +0100 Message-ID: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:11:35 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Tweak to html version of -bis drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I've just added a tweak to the htmlized version of -bis drafts found under http://tools.ietf.org/html/ : Previously, draft versions above -00 would have links at the top to diffs against the previous version, but -00 drafts would not. I've now added diff links also for the -00 versions of -bis drafts, against the referenced RFC. Example: http://www1.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccann-dime-rfc4004bis-00 Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 04:23:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVVj-0001NO-Qk; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:23:15 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVVi-0001MI-SQ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:23:14 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVVi-0001Lz-IS for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:23:14 -0500 Received: from [2001:14b8:400::130] (helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVVg-00028e-Hg for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:23:14 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E125019867C; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A1519867A; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:11 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47381B78.8040709@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:23:04 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tweak to html version of -bis drafts References: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: Tools Team Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is very nice! (But not the only use case I have for such comparisons. I typically end up reviewing bis drafts in the IESG, and then its draft-28 vs. the original RFC, not -00 vs. RFC. This cannot be easily accommodated in the scheme you have, unless you added "Diff to RFC" buttons at the top. Not sure my need for this is worth the extra buttons; I can also do this manually, though.) Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 04:46:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVsC-0002jH-Bv; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:46:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVsA-0002hW-QS for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:46:26 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVsA-0002ge-GE for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:46:26 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrVsA-0002vp-3T for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:46:26 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54028 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrVs9-0000Zi-Il; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:46:25 +0100 Message-ID: <473820EA.904@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:46:18 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tweak to html version of -bis drafts References: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> <47381B78.8040709@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <47381B78.8040709@piuha.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jari.arkko@piuha.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: Tools Team Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1902094857==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1902094857== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE7EC214BF50E97D853FE6420" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE7EC214BF50E97D853FE6420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jari, On 2007-11-12 10:23 Jari Arkko said the following: > This is very nice! >=20 > (But not the only use case I have for such comparisons. I typically end= > up reviewing bis drafts in the IESG, and then its draft-28 vs. the > original RFC, not -00 vs. RFC. This cannot be easily accommodated in th= e > scheme you have, unless you added "Diff to RFC" buttons at the top. Not= > sure my need for this is worth the extra buttons; I can also do this > manually, though.) Mmm. I'll have to think about this a little bit, to see how it can best be supported. I have an idea, but it takes a bit more work than the current tweak. Henrik --------------enigE7EC214BF50E97D853FE6420 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHOCDxeVhrtTJkXCMRAuTqAKD7uzpkksm4id0gxROHr3/+Yg1/9gCg5LXh AxmcCR8f9S/FwzcZlgYzqkA= =9I+g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE7EC214BF50E97D853FE6420-- --===============1902094857== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1902094857==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 05:11:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrWG1-0001Z1-VK; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:11:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrWG0-0001Xf-IX for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:11:04 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrWFz-0001XK-Ue for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:11:04 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrWFz-00073S-CL for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:11:03 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrWFo-0008HB-Mu for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:52 +0000 Received: from mail.st-michaelis.de ([217.86.170.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:52 +0000 Received: from nobody by mail.st-michaelis.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:10:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:07:34 +0100 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.st-michaelis.de X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Tweak to html version of -bis drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: =20 > http://www1.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccann-dime-rfc4004bis-00 Interesting, you're not using url1=3D to define the original RFC. I guess you have some hidden magic identifying the RFC as "--1". Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 11:17:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Irbya-0007Ms-6x; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:17:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IrbyZ-0007Lh-T2 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrbyZ-0007LZ-JJ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrbyW-0002Pz-17 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58010 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrbyU-0006Ow-Ps; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:17:22 +0100 Message-ID: <47387C92.5090706@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:17:22 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: Tweak to html version of -bis drafts References: <473818C7.2000904@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Frank, On 2007-11-12 11:07 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> http://www1.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mccann-dime-rfc4004bis-00 > > Interesting, you're not using url1= to define the original RFC. > I guess you have some hidden magic identifying the RFC as "--1". Correct. There has to be a little bit of magic somewhere, and since I already have a bit of magic in rfcdiff to deduce the right url1 if url2 is a draft with rev > 00, I put the magic for -bis drafts with rev == 00 in the same place. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 14:09:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBzd-0004QF-5f; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:09:13 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBzc-0004Q8-Dm for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:09:12 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBzc-0004PZ-10 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:09:12 -0500 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBzb-0004J3-NC for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:09:11 -0500 Received: from [10.20.30.108] (adsl-66-125-125-65.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [66.125.125.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id lAJJ97lE012391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:09:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:08:46 -0800 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Cc: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= Subject: [Tools-discuss] Another suggestion, this one for an outsider X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi again. Someone from a different SDO wants to know whenever a draft that "relates to their standards" is published. I think it is sufficient if a draft that has one of "their" standards name in the abstract appears. It would be grand if someone made a web tool that allows people to get messages every time a draft with at least one of maybe ten filled-in keywords appears in the abstract. This would be, in essence, a subscription service and need an interface commensurate with it. Extra points for making this an Atom feed. :-) --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 15:02:53 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCpZ-0004lo-PA; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:53 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCpY-0004le-Jq for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:52 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCpX-0004lQ-RV for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:52 -0500 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCpX-00082k-LF for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.136] (stdhcp-136.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.136]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671912AC4F for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:02:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4741EBCC.4060004@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:02:20 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Another suggestion, this one for an outsider References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Paul Hoffman wrote: > > It would be grand if someone made a web tool that allows people to get > messages every time a draft with at least one of maybe ten filled-in > keywords appears in the abstract. This would be, in essence, a > subscription service and need an interface commensurate with it. Extra > points for making this an Atom feed. :-) +1 =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 15:09:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCvV-0007Sz-Cq; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:09:01 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCvU-0007Su-AQ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:09:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCvU-0007Sl-0y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:09:00 -0500 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuCvT-0000um-AP for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:09:00 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.136] (stdhcp-136.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.136]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CA426E39 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4741ED5A.9070900@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:08:58 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Subject: [Tools-discuss] wrt HTML-ized RFCs & I-Ds X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org So, are the HTML-ized RFCs & I-Ds concocted on-the-fly, or are they available for rsync-based download? I ask because I simply rsync RFCs and I-Ds, diskspace being cheap and pleantiful, and given that I'm not always connected to the Net (it only consumes < 300mb so far). So I'd also sync the .html form if I could -- yes I presently snarf over .pdf and .xml, as wells as .txt. ? thanks, =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 15:22:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuD4W-00005y-2g; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:18:20 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuD4P-0008S7-Ip for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:18:14 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuD4M-0008P5-F8 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:18:10 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuD3y-0001Xf-0H for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:18:10 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.136] (stdhcp-136.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.136]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A81C328A2 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:17:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:17:13 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Subject: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org So I note that tools.ietf.org is able to get at old revs of old I-Ds. I began my local un-pruned I-D cache in about year 2000. Are there I-Ds sitting around that are older than that? If so, can one simply rsync them over? My present I-D rsync command looks like this.. rsync -avz www1.ietf.org::internet-drafts 'local-repository-path' ..so I'm assuming I get everything that's stored there at ietf.org. Yes? thanks, =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 17:12:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuEqa-000344-68; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:12:04 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuEqY-00033V-BZ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:12:02 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuEqY-00033N-1g for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:12:02 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuEqV-0006FW-9L for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:12:02 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35730 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IuEqK-0001AE-Dt; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: <47420A23.6010701@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:11:47 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] wrt HTML-ized RFCs & I-Ds References: <4741ED5A.9070900@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <4741ED5A.9070900@neustar.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Jeff.Hodges@neustar.biz, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Cc: Tools Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Jeff, On 2007-11-19 21:08 =JeffH said the following: > So, are the HTML-ized RFCs & I-Ds concocted on-the-fly, Simple answer: yes > or are they available > for rsync-based download? No. In order to have them available for rsync, quite a bit about how they are generated has to be changed. So for now, no. It's perfectly fine to download them using http with timestamp check, for instance using 'wget -N' -- once they are generated, they won't change unless they need to be updated for one reason or another. > I ask because I simply rsync RFCs and I-Ds, diskspace being cheap and > pleantiful, and given that I'm not always connected to the Net (it only > consumes < 300mb so far). The current incomplete contents of the /html/ directory on one of the tool servers has 44937 files, with a total size of 3.2 Gig; so it's a bit more than your 300 Meg. > So I'd also sync the .html form if I could -- yes I presently snarf over .pdf > and .xml, as wells as .txt. Sooner or later I'm going to change the html generation so it will also work well with rsync, but for now it's not quite there, so I'm not providing a rsync setup yet. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 17:42:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuFJX-0004ii-2S; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:41:59 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuFIy-0004Ea-QW for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuFIy-0004EJ-Ew for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from [2001:14b8:400::130] (helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuFIx-000763-Ul for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:41:24 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BEF19867C; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:41:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E84198670; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:41:22 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:41:24 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? References: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: Tools Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Jeff, > So I note that tools.ietf.org is able to get at old revs of old I-Ds. > I began my local un-pruned I-D cache in about year 2000. Are there > I-Ds sitting around that are older than that? If so, can one simply > rsync them over? > > My present I-D rsync command looks like this.. > > rsync -avz www1.ietf.org::internet-drafts 'local-repository-path' > > ..so I'm assuming I get everything that's stored there at ietf.org. Yes? If you kept rsyncing to ietf.org over the years, you should have gotten everything that existed. But I for instance have only a partially correct local copy, because I only did this part of the time. watersprings.org may have everything. It would be great if tools.ietf.org had everything and it would be rsynccable, searchable, etc. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 18:57:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGUa-00079R-L9; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:57:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGUZ-0006qb-3Q for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:57:27 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGUY-0006l5-K5 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:57:26 -0500 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGUY-0007fS-Bp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:57:26 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.146] (stdhcp-146.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.146]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A68175B3 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:56:55 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <474222C8.7090609@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:56:56 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] wrt HTML-ized RFCs & I-Ds References: <4741ED5A.9070900@neustar.biz> <47420A23.6010701@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47420A23.6010701@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > It's perfectly fine to download them using http with timestamp check, > for instance using 'wget -N' -- once they are generated, they won't > change unless they need to be updated for one reason or another. yeah, I spose, I'll look into that. rsync is just so much easier. >> I ask because I simply rsync RFCs and I-Ds, diskspace being cheap and >> pleantiful, and given that I'm not always connected to the Net (it only >> consumes < 300mb so far). > > The current incomplete contents of the /html/ directory on one of the > tool servers has 44937 files, with a total size of 3.2 Gig; so it's a bit > more than your 300 Meg. oh, well, urm, yeah, so, I misread my "du -sk" output by a factor of 10. My cache (of RFCs & IDs, some I-D duplicates) is a little under 3gb, doh. It's still "small" on my disk tho (100gb). My internet-drafts cache has ~48,200 files in it (if I'm not again misreading #s). > Sooner or later I'm going to change the html generation so it will also > work well with rsync... super. I can help test if you want. Mebbe I'll introduce errors ;-/ =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 19:13:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGjn-0004JZ-Sp; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:13:11 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGjm-0004JT-G7 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:13:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGjm-0004JK-66 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:13:10 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGjk-0000VO-SE for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:13:10 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50886 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IuGjX-0008EO-VM; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:12:53 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? References: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jari.arkko@piuha.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 Cc: Tools Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1028924733==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1028924733== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8C09062A0D15AE8415F322BE" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8C09062A0D15AE8415F322BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 2007-11-19 23:41 Jari Arkko said the following: > Jeff, >=20 >> So I note that tools.ietf.org is able to get at old revs of old I-Ds. >> I began my local un-pruned I-D cache in about year 2000. Are there >> I-Ds sitting around that are older than that? If so, can one simply >> rsync them over? >> >> My present I-D rsync command looks like this.. >> >> rsync -avz www1.ietf.org::internet-drafts 'local-repository-path' >> >> ..so I'm assuming I get everything that's stored there at ietf.org. Ye= s? >=20 > If you kept rsyncing to ietf.org over the years, you should have gotten= > everything that existed. But I for instance have only a partially > correct local copy, because I only did this part of the time. >=20 > watersprings.org may have everything. >=20 > It would be great if tools.ietf.org had everything and it would > be rsynccable, searchable, etc. I believe tools.ietf.org has everything that watersprings.org has. It may have some old IDs that watersprings doesn't have, and I may have a source of additional old drafts, which I have yet to put online (will do so Real Soon Now ... ,,:-). Rsync: I've set up rsync to provide access to the ID repository, under the URL rsync://rsync.tools.ietf.org/tools.id i.e., use=20 rsync -avz rsync://rsync.tools.ietf.org/tools.id . or rsync -avz rsync.tools.ietf.org::tools.id . Search: To the extent that google has indexed all the drafts in the repository,= they should all be searchable using the search form at http://tools.ietf.org/html (a.k.a http://tools.ief.org/search) Google's indexing is dependent on somebody at some time having pointed an URL at the drafts; as I don't provide a full html index to all the drafts (the current count being 46767 .txt files) this is not going to be the case for very old drafts which nobody has ever referenced. All new drafts get links on tools.ietf.org/html/ when they appear, though; one reason for this is exactly to give Google a link to follow to index= the new drafts... Regards, Henrik --------------enig8C09062A0D15AE8415F322BE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHQiaFeVhrtTJkXCMRAqK3AJ9cV9i+NdFPT/xiW+5rAunGV3HK+ACglpXj yzGGbQOLEGXvzDAddCnwFjY= =ncw6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8C09062A0D15AE8415F322BE-- --===============1028924733== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1028924733==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 19 19:28:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGyP-00043I-Rz; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:28:17 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGyN-00041L-TL for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:28:15 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGyN-00041C-7D for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:28:15 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuGyL-0000oB-PN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:28:15 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.146] (stdhcp-146.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.146]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D7D328B6 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47422A1E.6070400@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:28:14 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? References: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> watersprings.org may have everything. nice source, thanks. They do have some stuff I don't have. > Rsync: > > I've set up rsync to provide access to the ID repository, under the > URL rsync://rsync.tools.ietf.org/tools.id > > i.e., use > rsync -avz rsync://rsync.tools.ietf.org/tools.id . > or > rsync -avz rsync.tools.ietf.org::tools.id . super, thanks. I'm sync'g now. There's a fair bit I didn't have. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 01:11:53 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuMKu-0005hx-LC; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:11:52 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuMKt-0005gu-Qt for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:11:51 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuMKt-0005gE-1e for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:11:51 -0500 Received: from [2001:14b8:400::130] (helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuMKs-0008N1-Ee for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:11:51 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18DA198682; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:11:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423CA19867C; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:11:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47427AA7.2090502@piuha.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:11:51 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? References: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Cc: Tools Discussion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik, > I believe tools.ietf.org has everything that ... (snip) ... > I should have known :-) Rsync works great. Thanks. Jari _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 12:27:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutLp-0002Ta-QC; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IutLp-0002TV-0z for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutLo-0002TN-Nj for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:27:00 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutLm-0004US-Ia for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:27:00 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.138] (stdhcp-138.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.138]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565D032897 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:26:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47446A61.3010106@neustar.biz> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:57 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting all rev's of all old internet-drafts? References: <4741EF49.5020601@neustar.biz> <47421114.7090401@piuha.net> <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <47422685.9090608@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org So, just fyi, I rsync'd over all the I-Ds you put in rsync://rsync.tools.ietf.org/tools.id, and now here's the stats on my (1) diskspace consumed for all RFCs & I-Ds (.txt & .pdf & .xml) and (2) number of I-D files.. (1) ~/doc/IETF[15]> du -sk . 3777360 . -- i.e. < 4gb (2) ~/doc/IETF/internet-drafts[22]> ls -1 | wc -l 64030 =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Nov 21 12:30:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutOl-0006id-Jd; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:03 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IutOk-0006iQ-7Z for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:02 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutOj-0006iH-Tv for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:01 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IutOh-0004bQ-4L for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:01 -0500 Received: from [10.31.13.138] (stdhcp-138.va.neustar.com [10.31.13.138]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E9132897 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:29:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:29:28 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 386e0819b1192672467565a524848168 Subject: [Tools-discuss] ietf tools use on locally-cached data? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org So I find it Pretty Useful to have tools that operate on my local rsync'd cache of RFCs and Internet-Drafts, e.g. when I'm on a plane (to an IETF meeting). AFAICT all the IETF tools work is web-based and operates on remotely-cached data, yes? I suppose one can run a local apache instance and install some/most/all the tools you folks have made available, but I also find command line tools also useful. e.g. I have one (written in Perl) that prints a report on latest-rev I-Ds per a wildcarded-filename, using raw .txt internet-drafts as the database. Below's the output on "*atompub*" fyi. But https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/ provides nearly the same info, so I am (sorta) contemplating about just running the code behind datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/ locally. Tho it's worth noting that datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/ doesn't differentiate between "truly EXPIRED I-Ds (i.e. tombstone is present)" and "EXPIRED but not deleted I-Ds", which is a common situation. Also, I have some thoughts about hacking up some tools to make it more convenient to browse RFCs & I-Ds in tabs in Firefox (which is what I presently use), in conjunction with the SessionSaver extension (i need to play with FF3 to see whether they have any new tab/session functionality in there that'll be helpful). So I wonder about porting some of your server-side tools, eg the html-generation and datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/ to Google Gears, because then they'd ostensibly automagically work whether one is on- or off-line. =JeffH > lsidlatest "*atompub*" -v 26 total latest-rev files found for filespec: *atompub* : 5 IDs published as RFCs... draft-ietf-atompub-format-12 -> RFC 4287 draft-ietf-atompub-protocol-18 -> RFC 5023 draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-12 -> RFC 5005 draft-snell-atompub-feed-license-12 -> RFC 4946 draft-snell-atompub-feed-thread-13 -> RFC 4685 1 replaced I-Ds found... draft-ietf-atompub-autodiscovery-02 -> draft-snell-atompub-autodiscovery-00.txt 3 truly current I-Ds found... draft-saintandre-atompub-notify-06 draft-snell-atompub-bidi-05 draft-snell-atompub-feature-12 13 EXPIRED but not deleted I-Ds found... draft-sayre-atompub-protocol-basic-06 draft-sayre-atompub-protocol-outline-01 draft-sayre-atompub-protocol-seek-00 draft-sayre-atompub-xhtml-micro-00 draft-snell-atompub-app-blogcontrol-00 draft-snell-atompub-app-introspection-00 draft-snell-atompub-feed-expires-06 draft-snell-atompub-feed-index-10 draft-snell-atompub-feed-nofollow-04 draft-snell-atompub-link-extensions-02 draft-snell-atompub-revision-00 draft-snell-atompub-tombstones-02 draft-snell-atompub-transitional-atom-00 4 truly EXPIRED I-Ds found... draft-ietf-atompub-typeparam-01 draft-snell-atompub-author-extensions-01 draft-snell-atompub-autodiscovery-01 draft-snell-atompub-notification-02 0 oddly formatted I-Ds found... --- end _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 23 19:03:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IviUW-00067L-VY; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:03:24 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IviUV-00067F-Rx for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:03:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IviUV-000677-HD for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:03:23 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IviUS-00058m-B3 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:03:23 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Nov 2007 16:03:19 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAO03JMD013499 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:03:19 -0800 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (sjc-fluffy-vpn2.cisco.com [10.25.236.83]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with SMTP id lAO03Cb5014494 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:03:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Cullen Jennings Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:02:37 -0800 To: Tools Discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1147; t=1195862599; x=1196726599; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Problem=20sending=20to=20draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ie tf.org |Sender:=20; bh=a7nENm4BZCoAWD0TH0dVxzj2dNgssaEOrgzO7C60+5U=; b=jmmLptXbytsLwWviXNrxVEmYI6HJ8abK6BZ2/q2JqSlg2ZcptpIM6pyhAlx+mvo8TRnZjEhH 3NyD6hRjn3tJCLPfzW6MIrKW9l4EAsfEEgGFheR5cMgVgsBQPkYEtv+v; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I'm having a problem with email going to draft-ietf-avt-rtp- jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org and I have three questions 1) where is the right place to report a problem like this? 2) uh, given this is 99:1 a stupid user problem, can anyone point out what I'm doing wrong here. Thanks, Cullen Begin forwarded message: > The following message to jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org> was undeliverable. > The reason for the problem: > 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'Unrouteable address' > Final-Recipient: rfc822;draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) > Remote-MTA: dns; [194.146.105.14] > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error > 550-'Unrouteable address' (delivery attempts: 0) > Reporting-MTA: dns; sj-iport-6.cisco.com > > From: Cullen Jennings > Date: November 23, 2007 3:34:19 PM PST > To: Thomas Edwards , Colin Perkins > > Cc: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000 Question about sampling > parameter > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 24 02:00:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivp0N-0003SN-Sz; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:00:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivp0M-0003IJ-9J for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:00:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivp0L-0003DP-QL for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:00:41 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([2001:14b8:400::130] helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivp0L-0006sG-4A for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:00:41 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6024198682; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:00:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DE719867C; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:00:39 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4747CC17.7070008@piuha.net> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:00:39 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 4d87d2aa806f79fed918a62e834505ca Cc: Tools Discuss X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I'm the right recipient of these errors. I see what the bug is (confusion about contact information in the body of the document vs. the author section). I'm working on a fix. Jari Cullen Jennings kirjoitti: > > I'm having a problem with email going to > draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org and I have three questions > > 1) where is the right place to report a problem like this? > > 2) uh, given this is 99:1 a stupid user problem, can anyone point out > what I'm doing wrong here. > > Thanks, Cullen > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> The following message to >> was undeliverable. >> The reason for the problem: >> 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'Unrouteable address' >> Final-Recipient: rfc822;draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org >> Action: failed >> Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) >> Remote-MTA: dns; [194.146.105.14] >> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'Unrouteable >> address' (delivery attempts: 0) >> Reporting-MTA: dns; sj-iport-6.cisco.com >> >> From: Cullen Jennings >> Date: November 23, 2007 3:34:19 PM PST >> To: Thomas Edwards , Colin Perkins >> >> Cc: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: Re: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000 Question about sampling >> parameter >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 24 05:04:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivrs6-0000zR-FC; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:04:22 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivrs5-0000zM-2O for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:04:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivrrz-0000vG-P4 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:04:15 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivrrx-0003oc-4z for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:04:15 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38882 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivrrv-0001im-He; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:04:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4747F71B.1080205@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:04:11 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> <4747CC17.7070008@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <4747CC17.7070008@piuha.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jari.arkko@piuha.net, fluffy@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: Cullen Jennings , Tools Discuss X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0251942647==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0251942647== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC7A2CEA5FBA834E44430AB68" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC7A2CEA5FBA834E44430AB68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jari, Cullen, On 2007-11-24 08:00 Jari Arkko said the following: > I'm the right recipient of these errors. >=20 > I see what the bug is (confusion about contact > information in the body of the document vs. > the author section). I'm working on a fix. >=20 > Jari >=20 > Cullen Jennings kirjoitti: >> I'm having a problem with email going to >> draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org and I have three questions >> >> 1) where is the right place to report a problem like this? It involves both the alias list at tools.ietf.org, and the generation of the email address information. The latter is Jari's thing, as indicated above; the former is mine, and email to this list or either of us should do fine. >> 2) uh, given this is 99:1 a stupid user problem, can anyone point out >> what I'm doing wrong here. As Jari's indicated, there is a problem with the author info extraction; the result is that with no valid info, there is no alias generated for this draft currently. (I first thought that it was a user error, since I found the following alias in the list, but then I checked and saw that both the draft name you used and this one exist: "draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-beam: ...") Henrik --------------enigC7A2CEA5FBA834E44430AB68 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHR/cbeVhrtTJkXCMRAkWCAKDj1APin1LpLCvnBs6CnLHc7DFhIQCghSnf itg0UkCpsBUzCXcW4cgDFO8= =tyfS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC7A2CEA5FBA834E44430AB68-- --===============0251942647== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0251942647==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 24 12:54:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvzDR-0007cO-7t; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:54:53 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IvzDP-0007cG-Lg for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:54:51 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvzDP-0007c8-Ax for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:54:51 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvzDO-0005pN-Ub for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:54:51 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Nov 2007 09:54:50 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAOHsoRK009798; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:54:50 -0800 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (sjc-fluffy-vpn2.cisco.com [10.25.236.83]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with SMTP id lAOHsib5028525; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:54:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <4747F71B.1080205@levkowetz.com> References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> <4747CC17.7070008@piuha.net> <4747F71B.1080205@levkowetz.com> Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <776D9EC6-3DF1-4F5E-9476-E69C53F53BFB@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:54:09 -0800 To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1447; t=1195926890; x=1196790890; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Problem=20sending=09to=09draft-ietf -avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org |Sender:=20; bh=5ByyiZmosMccOHvGkSqaZlBIQA7EAqLWb1Pq7uti8lQ=; b=P93MqZVimPNioe5opFnSpuDTgO173JRHUYkWFpN42rivhZuphnG/K+5RmtImkdj7ztXkGnkZ HiCQTOzzskD2Ngb68uecaiUHPHRm8VJ3QZSYxBND8c/JsqcPyLIp4do4; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: Jari Arkko , Tools Discuss X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Yah, Jari and I IM'd about it a bit and I understand the complications. Thanks On Nov 24, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Jari, Cullen, > > On 2007-11-24 08:00 Jari Arkko said the following: >> I'm the right recipient of these errors. >> >> I see what the bug is (confusion about contact >> information in the body of the document vs. >> the author section). I'm working on a fix. >> >> Jari >> >> Cullen Jennings kirjoitti: >>> I'm having a problem with email going to >>> draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org and I have three >>> questions >>> >>> 1) where is the right place to report a problem like this? > > It involves both the alias list at tools.ietf.org, and the generation > of the email address information. The latter is Jari's thing, as > indicated above; the former is mine, and email to this list or either > of us should do fine. > >>> 2) uh, given this is 99:1 a stupid user problem, can anyone point >>> out >>> what I'm doing wrong here. > > As Jari's indicated, there is a problem with the author info > extraction; > the result is that with no valid info, there is no alias generated for > this draft currently. > > (I first thought that it was a user error, since I found the following > alias in the list, but then I checked and saw that both the draft name > you used and this one exist: "draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-beam: ...") > > > Henrik > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 15:22:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwNzd-0000QF-BO; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:22:17 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwNzc-0000Q9-C9 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:22:16 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwNzc-0000Q1-1x for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:22:16 -0500 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwNzb-0001Ks-64 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:22:15 -0500 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id lAPKM1ob031246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:22:04 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: =JeffH References: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:071125:tools-discuss@ietf.org::ygSmBSSNFkcBDJE5:EBV+ X-Hashcash: 1:22:071125:jeff.hodges@neustar.biz::H0Qq+GSI0IYBw+fl:Mc1D Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:22:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> (JeffH's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:29:28 -0800") Message-ID: <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: ietf tools use on locally-cached data? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org =JeffH writes: > I suppose one can run a local apache instance and install some/most/all the > tools you folks have made available +1 for this, it would be useful to easily be able to duplicate the tools.ietf.org setup locally or internally for an organization. /Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 16:02:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOc9-0006ir-J8; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:02:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOc8-0006cK-QH for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:02:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOc8-0006bg-GQ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:02:04 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([2001:14b8:400::130] helo=smtp.piuha.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOc7-0007X1-I4 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:02:04 -0500 Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E119D198682; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:02:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7941D198670; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:02:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4749E2CB.4000300@piuha.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:02:03 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cullen Jennings , Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 2e8fc473f5174be667965460bd5288ba Cc: Tools Discuss X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I have gone through the known problems in the draft e-mail aliases. There are no longer any drafts that do not have an author e-mail address at all (previously, there were three). Also, the number of drafts with at least one unknown e-mail address for one of the authors has gone down to 19 from 58. The remaining ones http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/bademails.html are hard to fix, due to lack of information anywhere. I've sent a few e-mails to the other authors to have them update the draft or otherwise send information. There's also the possibility that some of the information that I have is incorrect; its hard to know how widespread this might be. Henrik, you should pull the newest getauthors and getauthors.data files, and run it at least for the drafts below Jari draft-ali-arp-over-gmpls-controlled-ethernet-psc-i-05.txt draft-ali-ccamp-gmpls-lsp-ping-traceroute-00.txt draft-archana-pimwg-pim-ping-00.txt draft-atlas-bryant-shand-lf-timers-03.txt draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-04.txt draft-auerbach-mgcp-rtcpxr-07.txt draft-bajko-mip6-rrtfw-02.txt draft-bajko-mos-dhcp-options-01.txt draft-balus-l2vpn-vpls-802.1ah-01.txt draft-barreto-ietf-dhhmac-sas-00.txt draft-behringer-bgp-session-sec-req-02.txt draft-bergek-mipp-00.txt draft-borman-1323bis-00.txt draft-cassen-access-right-distribution-protocol-04.txt draft-cornish-qtp-05.txt draft-daniel-6lowpan-commissioning-00.txt draft-daniel-6lowpan-hilow-hierarchical-routing-01.txt draft-daniel-6lowpan-load-adhoc-routing-03.txt draft-daniel-6lowpan-sslp-01.txt draft-davey-iialp-08.txt draft-dearlove-olsrv2-metrics-00.txt draft-deng-multimob-ps-mobilemulticast-00.txt draft-dharkins-siv-aes-01.txt draft-doherty-keyprov-dskpp-01.txt draft-dolganow-pwe3-ospf-ms-pw-ext-01.txt draft-fang-mpls-gmpls-security-framework-01.txt draft-frost-packet-timing-framework-00.txt draft-gurbani-sip-domain-certs-06.txt draft-gurbani-sip-ipv6-abnf-fix-00.txt draft-haddad-cgaext-optisend-00.txt draft-haddad-mipshop-optisend-03.txt draft-haluska-sipping-directory-assistance-04.txt draft-hart-pwe3-segmented-pw-vccv-02.txt draft-hathcock-minger-04.txt draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-02.txt draft-iab-ip-config-00.txt draft-iab-protocol-success-01.txt draft-ietf-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs-01.txt draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-over-ipv6cs-11.txt draft-ietf-avt-rtcpssm-14.txt draft-ietf-avt-rtp-atrac-family-10.txt draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-18.txt draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-beam-09.txt draft-ietf-avt-tfrc-profile-10.txt draft-ietf-bmwg-protection-meth-02.txt draft-ietf-btns-c-api-01.txt draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-04.txt draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-05.txt draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt draft-ietf-dnsop-as112-under-attack-help-help-01.txt draft-ietf-enum-cnam-07.txt draft-ietf-enum-unused-03.txt draft-ietf-enum-vmsg-00.txt draft-ietf-hip-applications-02.txt draft-ietf-hip-dns-09.txt draft-ietf-hip-native-api-03.txt draft-ietf-hip-nat-traversal-02.txt draft-ietf-hip-registration-02.txt draft-ietf-hip-rvs-05.txt draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-00.txt draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-01.txt draft-ietf-l2vpn-arp-mediation-08.txt draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-03.txt draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-05.txt draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-04.txt draft-ietf-magma-mgmd-mib-10.txt draft-ietf-manet-jitter-03.txt draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-04.txt draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-04.txt draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-11.txt draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-04.txt draft-ietf-mip4-dsmipv4-05.txt draft-ietf-mip6-nemo-v4traversal-06.txt draft-ietf-mipshop-4140bis-01.txt draft-ietf-mpls-mp-ldp-reqs-03.txt draft-ietf-mpls-mpls-and-gmpls-security-framework-01.txt draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-lsp-ping-05.txt draft-ietf-nea-requirements-05.txt draft-ietf-netlmm-mn-ar-if-02.txt draft-ietf-pana-ipsec-07.txt draft-ietf-pwe3-fc-encap-06.txt draft-ietf-pwe3-ms-pw-arch-03.txt draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-framework-07.txt draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-01.txt draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-01.txt draft-ietf-shim6-multihome-shim-api-03.txt draft-ietf-sieve-notify-10.txt draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-06.txt draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-02.txt draft-irtf-cfrg-rhash-01.txt draft-janardhan-naveen-rtgwg-equalcostroutes-rip-00.txt draft-jen-apt-01.txt draft-jiang-p2psip-stun-turn-discovery-00.txt draft-kappler-nsis-qosmodel-controlledload-06.txt draft-kulkarni-pim-gr-enhancement-00.txt draft-lafon-rfc2616bis-04.txt draft-laganier-ike-ipv6-cga-02.txt draft-lapuh-network-smlt-07.txt draft-legg-xed-matching-03.txt draft-legg-xed-protocols-05.txt draft-legg-xed-roadmap-06.txt draft-legg-xed-schema-05.txt draft-lewis-peppermint-enum-reg-if-01.txt draft-lhotka-relaxng-to-rfc-00.txt draft-livingood-enum-videomsg-01.txt draft-livingood-enum-voicemsg-01.txt draft-madanapalli-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs-01.txt draft-mammoliti-l2tp-accessline-avp-01.txt draft-manand-test-sip-ims-compliance-00.txt draft-manning-opcode-discover-02.txt draft-manyfolks-hip-sturn-01.txt draft-marques-idr-flow-spec-04.txt draft-melia-mipshop-mstp-solution-01.txt draft-melnikov-sieve-external-lists-01.txt draft-montenegro-6lowpan-dymo-low-routing-03.txt draft-muley-dutta-pwe3-redundancy-bit-02.txt draft-muley-pwe3-redundancy-02.txt draft-nadeau-l2tpext-pw-l2tpv3-mib-01.txt draft-otani-ccamp-gmpls-mib-update-00.txt draft-pan-pwe3-pbb-tunnels-00.txt draft-salsano-sipping-siphandover-solution-01.txt draft-sayre-http-security-variance-00.txt draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-11.txt draft-soliman-firewall-control-00.txt draft-soliman-monami6-flow-binding-05.txt draft-sommer-ipfix-mediator-ext-00.txt draft-stjohns-sipso-02.txt draft-terrell-cidr-net-descrpt-expands-iptx-add-spc-21.txt draft-terrell-iptx-mx-dhcp-specification-02.txt draft-terrell-iptx-mx-dns-specification-04.txt draft-terrell-math-quant-ternary-logic-of-binary-sys-12.txt draft-tschofenig-mip6-ice-01.txt draft-turner-symmetrickeyformat-00.txt draft-vapiwala-bmwg-rsvpte-convergence-motivation-01.txt draft-vidya-ip-mobility-multihoming-interactions-01.txt draft-yang-multimob-mip6-mc-tunnel-opt-00.txt draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11-mib-00.txt draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib-00.txt _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 16:06:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOg9-0001Fd-1f; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:06:13 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOg8-0001Da-4o for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:06:12 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOg7-0001Bs-R6 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:06:11 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOg7-0007c8-As for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:06:11 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38831 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IwOg5-0007wQ-Kq; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:06:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:06:09 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: ietf tools use on locally-cached data? References: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 Cc: IETF Tools List X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, On 2007-11-25 21:22 Simon Josefsson said the following: > =JeffH writes: > >> I suppose one can run a local apache instance and install some/most/all the >> tools you folks have made available > > +1 for this, it would be useful to easily be able to duplicate the > tools.ietf.org setup locally or internally for an organization. ... Yes. All the tools I write are available under GPL or (sometimes) some other OSS license, like CDDL. ... However. The full current setup depends on a heavy CRON file, and on various python modules which I haven't charted and collected as a package, and other unspecified debian packages being installed. Every time I've set up a new tools server, even considering I've rsynced over the whole set of scripts and content directories, there has been a couple of weeks before I've caught every new dependency I haven't been aware of, and fixed things. Considering the advice (which I've personally found spot-on over the last 20 years) of Fred Brooks in 'The Mythical Man-Month" that moving from personal software to software-for-friends to a public release each requires a three time increase in effort, I simply can't see that it's worth the increased effort from my side to make the complete setup available as a reasonably solid package. If willing assistance to accomplish this turns up, I'd be happy to reconsider. Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 16:25:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOyY-0008KS-KI; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:14 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOyW-0008KN-Nf for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:12 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOyW-0008KF-EE for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:12 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwOyV-0007ys-Kc for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:12 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53272 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IwOyT-0001Ji-SM; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4749E835.80405@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:25:09 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Problem sending to draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000@tools.ietf.org References: <6ek6kn$5u8nk@sj-iport-6.cisco.com> <3F6E9D8B-6470-4586-9FD4-01431D3576A4@cisco.com> <4749E2CB.4000300@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <4749E2CB.4000300@piuha.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jari.arkko@piuha.net, fluffy@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Cc: Cullen Jennings , Tools Discuss X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0676167305==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0676167305== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A28600A5B60A82AA970DA87" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A28600A5B60A82AA970DA87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jari, On 2007-11-25 22:02 Jari Arkko said the following: > I have gone through the known problems in the draft e-mail aliases. >=20 > There are no longer any drafts that do not have an author e-mail addres= s > at all (previously, there were three). Also, the number of drafts with > at least one unknown e-mail address for one of the authors has gone > down to 19 from 58. The remaining ones >=20 > http://www.arkko.com/tools/stats/bademails.html >=20 > are hard to fix, due to lack of information anywhere. I've sent a > few e-mails to the other authors to have them update the draft > or otherwise send information. There's also the possibility that > some of the information that I have is incorrect; its hard to know > how widespread this might be. >=20 > Henrik, you should pull the newest getauthors and getauthors.data > files, and run it at least for the drafts below Great! I've pulled the updated getauthors files, and started the update run. Should be done in about 30 minutes. Henrik --------------enig7A28600A5B60A82AA970DA87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHSeg1eVhrtTJkXCMRAkXgAJ4p1zdlIlOk6j03eYvyKDY3HUbFZQCg/XYa 7QvDzn5snDrEf1ZopaMG3Ig= =RWHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7A28600A5B60A82AA970DA87-- --===============0676167305== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0676167305==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 17:26:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwPvo-0003Mi-1S; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:26:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwPvm-0003Md-UL for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:26:26 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwPvm-0003MV-KJ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:26:26 -0500 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwPvm-00047q-3L for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:26:26 -0500 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id lAPMQD02023388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:26:15 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:071125:tools-discuss@ietf.org::Z57Te0XBWkKyE41B:3mdH X-Hashcash: 1:22:071125:henrik@levkowetz.com::7f6WQDTgs8TkF8WA:CPut Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:26:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> (Henrik Levkowetz's message of "Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:06:09 +0100") Message-ID: <8763zqdksa.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: ietf tools use on locally-cached data? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Simon, > > On 2007-11-25 21:22 Simon Josefsson said the following: >> =JeffH writes: >> >>> I suppose one can run a local apache instance and install some/most/all the >>> tools you folks have made available >> >> +1 for this, it would be useful to easily be able to duplicate the >> tools.ietf.org setup locally or internally for an organization. > > ... Yes. All the tools I write are available under GPL or (sometimes) some > other OSS license, like CDDL. Is there a central place where one could find the code? I'm thinking in particular of the recent dailydose page, but the search pages would also be interesting to set up locally. Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Nov 25 17:49:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwQHu-0005oy-Uh; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:49:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IwQHt-0005oj-9C for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:49:17 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwQHs-0005ob-W0 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:49:16 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwQHs-0001eZ-EG for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:49:16 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36155 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IwQHr-00014e-Pg; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:49:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4749FBEB.30302@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:49:15 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> <8763zqdksa.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <8763zqdksa.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Cc: IETF Tools List Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: ietf tools use on locally-cached data? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, On 2007-11-25 23:26 Simon Josefsson said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz writes: > >> Hi Simon, >> >> On 2007-11-25 21:22 Simon Josefsson said the following: >>> =JeffH writes: >>> >>>> I suppose one can run a local apache instance and install some/most/all the >>>> tools you folks have made available >>> +1 for this, it would be useful to easily be able to duplicate the >>> tools.ietf.org setup locally or internally for an organization. >> ... Yes. All the tools I write are available under GPL or (sometimes) some >> other OSS license, like CDDL. > > Is there a central place where one could find the code? I'm thinking in > particular of the recent dailydose page, but the search pages would also > be interesting to set up locally. In general, the code is available under tools.ietf.org/tools/*/, but there's also quite a bit of dross and incomplete stuff there, so I don't have a full index of that area available. The ID search support code is available at http://tools.ietf.org/id/code.txt, now linked from http://tools.ietf.org/id/, this some of the search capabilites shown at http://tools.ietf.org/html/; the rest is plain google. The 404 support for http://tools.ietf.org/html/ is similarly available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/code.txt; and also at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/html-404/ The dailydose code is a special case; it's not written by me, but by Pasi Eronen. It's not open source, unfortunately; for more information I'd suggest you contact Pasi at pasi.eronen@nokia.com. Hope that helps, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 26 14:45:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwjt6-0005ny-6D; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwjt5-0005nt-1T for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:44:59 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwjt4-0005nl-L7 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:44:58 -0500 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwjt4-0003KE-DA for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:44:58 -0500 Received: from [156.154.5.3] (unknown [156.154.5.3]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73AF175CA for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <474B2243.1090002@neustar.biz> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:45:07 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools List Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: ietf tools use on locally-cached data? References: <47446AF8.9040201@neustar.biz> <87k5o6hy8m.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4749E3C1.8040301@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thanks for the info Henrik, > However. The full current setup depends on a heavy CRON file, and on > various python modules which I haven't charted and collected as a > package, and other unspecified debian packages being installed. ... > I simply can't see that it's worth the > increased effort from my side to make the complete setup available as a > reasonably solid package. hm. and with that info, i wonder whether such a project might really want to start over using e.g. the Google Gears along with Google Web Toolkit (as appropriate) in order to yield both server- and client-side capabilities. Of course it's at least somewhat likely that large chunks of the current formatting & text-processing code could be reused. In the meantime, my simple perl script(s) are available to anyone who's interested. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 08:55:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix0uU-00015j-DX; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:34 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwuat-0006Zx-M1 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:55 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwuat-0006Zo-AQ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:55 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iwuas-00065I-VN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:55 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [71.198.7.226]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1445AD0500 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:53 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Mark Nottingham Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:10:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Repository? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I note that Trac has a "Browse Source" link . Does this mean that a repository (CVS? SVN?) is available for working groups? Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 09:20:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix1IX-00078K-3w; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:20:25 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix1IV-00070t-UJ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix1IV-00070D-Je for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix1IV-0001aH-1Q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53881 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix1IT-0005Fm-0V; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:20:21 +0100 Message-ID: <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:20:20 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-11-27 08:10 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Hi, > > I note that Trac has a "Browse Source" link httpbis/trac/browser>. Does this mean that a repository (CVS? SVN?) > is available for working groups? Yes. Working groups which has Trac set up also has a SVN repository available, at http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg//. However, this has not been used much so far; if you start using it and run into any access issues at all, let me know and I'll fix as needed. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 14:18:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix5xR-0005CO-PM; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:18:57 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix5xQ-0005Bi-3K for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:18:56 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix5xP-0005BW-NT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:18:55 -0500 Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com ([206.16.17.211]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix5xP-0001sl-Dw for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:18:55 -0500 Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JS600KPSIZH2Y@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from s73602 (cpe-72-190-0-23.tx.res.rr.com [72.190.0.23]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JS600240IZFCF@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:18:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:18:38 -0600 From: Spencer Dawkins To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-id: <0af801c8312a$50497d00$6501a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Subject: [Tools-discuss] ID submission (for HTML) and retrieval (for XML)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I just joined the mailing list, and poked around a bit without seeing these questions, but if they are already on a FAQ list somewhere, my apologies... - I have a table in my draft that looks lousy in TXT (conceptually, it's about three pages wide) but is fine in HTML. I hacked my XML so that the table is broken into three or four tables, each of which at least fits on a page in TXT, but I'd really like to be able to submit the HTML from my UNhacked XML (containing this information as one big table). I can submit .ps or .pdf, but not HTML directly. Would this be hard to add? - I submitted XML with my draft, but don't know how to retrieve the "XML" (assuming one of my co-authors needed the XML that corresponds to the current version because I was hit by a truck). Am I missing something? Thanks, Spencer _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 14:35:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6DG-0007Vl-S8; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:35:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6DE-0007VR-Tb for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6DE-0007VE-JW for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com ([216.82.245.131]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6DE-0000n4-7q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:35:16 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: tony@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1196192114!9708313!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.128.149] Received: (qmail 17529 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2007 19:35:15 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp9.sbc.com (HELO flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) (144.160.128.149) by server-9.tower-146.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Nov 2007 19:35:15 -0000 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lARJZEDh007095 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:35:14 -0800 Received: from flph023.ffdc.sbc.com (flph023.ffdc.sbc.com [150.234.117.36]) by flph024.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lARJZ9lc007030 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:35:09 -0800 Received: from ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph023.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lARJZ9KX007527 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:35:09 -0800 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by flph023.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lARJZ79V007497 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:35:07 -0800 Received: from [135.210.82.220] (unknown[135.210.82.220](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20071127193506gw10010g1te> (Authid: tony); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:35:06 +0000 Message-ID: <474C710B.4060808@att.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:33:31 -0500 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] ID submission (for HTML) and retrieval (for XML)? References: <0af801c8312a$50497d00$6501a8c0@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <0af801c8312a$50497d00$6501a8c0@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Spencer Dawkins wrote: > I just joined the mailing list, and poked around a bit without seeing > these questions, but if they are already on a FAQ list somewhere, my > apologies... > ... > - I submitted XML with my draft, but don't know how to retrieve the > "XML" (assuming one of my co-authors needed the XML that corresponds to > the current version because I was hit by a truck). Am I missing something? Look in the same place as the .txt files: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-NAME.xml or http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-NAME.xml Have fun! Tony Hansen tony@att.com _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 15:16:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6qj-0005rO-PT; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:16:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6qj-0005mo-7k for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:16:05 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6qi-0005jv-S2 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:16:04 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix6qh-00075O-M4 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:16:04 -0500 Received: from [156.154.5.239] (unknown [156.154.5.239]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77001328A1 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <474C7AE5.9050408@neustar.biz> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:15:33 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > ... Working groups which has Trac set up also has a SVN repository > available, at http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg//. how does one get a list of wg's that have Trac setup? Also, perhaps related, I note that, e.g.,... http://svn.tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/ ..is a very cool/useful page. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 27 17:00:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix8Tz-0001K0-2L; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix8Ty-0001Jp-C2 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix8Ty-0001Jf-1m for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ix8Tx-0000fF-IG for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:00:42 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57362 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix8Tw-0000zV-KD; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:00:40 +0100 Message-ID: <474C9388.10307@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:00:40 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Hodges Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <474C7AE5.9050408@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <474C7AE5.9050408@neustar.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jeff.hodges@neustar.biz, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-11-27 21:15 =JeffH said the following: > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > > ... Working groups which has Trac set up also has a SVN repository > > available, at http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg//. > > how does one get a list of wg's that have Trac setup? Look at the WG page (http://tools.ietf.org/wg//). If there are links to 'Wiki' and 'Issues', there's a Trac setup. > Also, perhaps related, I note that, e.g.,... > > http://svn.tools.ietf.org/wg/sip/ > > ..is a very cool/useful page. Yeah, well, that's the sip WG page -- I hope that for all the other existing WGs, the corresponding WG pages are just as cool... BTW, please use http://tools.ietf.org/wg/, rather than the 'svn.tools.ietf.org' subdomain when referencing WG pages. The svn domain is on a machine which also has WG pages at this time, but that may not be the case forever. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss