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From: Ole Laursen <olau@iola.dk>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:55:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Test server for RFC 6359 (Datatracker Extensions to Include IANA and RFC Editor Processing Information)
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Hi again!

No feedback so far, so just to clarify what this means:

- If you manage an IETF or IRTF draft, you must fill in whether it's a
consensus draft or not through a new page (this is to help the RFC
Editor); drafts with unfilled fields say "Consensus: Unknown"

- If you manage a draft in the IRTF, IAB or ISE stream and need to
send it to the RFC Editor for publication, there's a new page for
doing that (including a new page for setting the intended RFC status
which is a prerequisite). If you read this and think you will use this
feature in the future, please find yourself a draft at the test server

http://statesync.ietf.beta.iola.dk/

and try that now (click the "Request publication" link), and tell me
if the interface makes sense.


Ole

2012/9/24 Ole Laursen <olau@iola.dk>:
> Hi people!
>
> I have put up a test server for the Datatracker extensions for IANA
> and RFC Editor information as described in RFC 6359 here:
>
> http://statesync.ietf.beta.iola.dk/
>
>
> The notable changes are:
>
> - IANA states show up
>
> - RFC Editor state changes will show up in the history
>
> - In the near future, faster updates from IANA and RFC Editor
>
> - Consensus yes/no indication on IETF/IRTF drafts to be filled in
>
> - Consensus, Last Call expiration, IANA Review problems and stream
> show up in IESG agenda
>
> - Alternate streams:
>
> * Can request publication at RFC Editor
>
> * Can change intended RFC status of their drafts
>
> * Get notifications on new draft submissions
>
> - Dump of draft attributes at /doc/draft-XXXX/doc.json
>
> - Discrepancies report for seeing discrepancies between the states at
> the Datatracker, IANA and RFC Editor
>
> I am happy to answer any questions or comments, especially regarding
> the publication requests which I'm not sure I got entirely right.
> Barring any comments, this will likely go live soon.
>
>
> NOTE
>
> The testserver operates on a local database dump from today, so you
> can change things as you like. You can login with your usual account
> and blank password. Emails are suppressed, unless you go to
>
> http://statesync.ietf.beta.iola.dk/accounts/testemail/
>
> and fill in your information - then you'll get emails you produce forwarded.
>
> Also note that some information outside the database dump may be
> missing from the test server so some links may be dead.
>
>
> Ole

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Hi,

the iCal agenda available via =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.ics doesn't seem to have =
the correct timezone information in it?

Lars=

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Hi Lars,

On 2012-10-10 09:21 Eggert, Lars said:
> Hi,
> 
> the iCal agenda available via https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.ics doesn't seem to have the correct timezone information in it?

Right, it seems the secretariat hasn't set any timezone information for
the meeting.  Setting that isn't something that they have been doing
previously, so it's even possible that their tools don't ask for this
information.  I'll send them a note about the matter.


Best regards,

	Henrik

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Any updates? Timezone still seems to be off.

Lars

On Oct 11, 2012, at 15:04, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
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> Hi Lars,
>=20
> On 2012-10-10 09:21 Eggert, Lars said:
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> the iCal agenda available via =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.ics doesn't seem to have =
the correct timezone information in it?
>=20
> Right, it seems the secretariat hasn't set any timezone information =
for
> the meeting.  Setting that isn't something that they have been doing
> previously, so it's even possible that their tools don't ask for this
> information.  I'll send them a note about the matter.
>=20
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> 	Henrik


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Hi Lars,


On 2012-10-23 16:04 Eggert, Lars said:
> Any updates? Timezone still seems to be off.

The start of the file now says:

BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
METHOD:PUBLISH
BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
TZID:America/New_York
BEGIN:STANDARD
TZOFFSETFROM:-0500
TZOFFSETTO:-0500
TZNAME:America/New_York
DTSTART:19700101T000000
END:STANDARD
END:VTIMEZONE
...

I think that's right?

When I import this to iCal, things end up in the right place, as far as
I can see.  Do we have an incompatibility issue here, rather than a
missing timezone?  Which client do you use?


Best regards,

	Henrik

> Lars
> 
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 15:04, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> On 2012-10-10 09:21 Eggert, Lars said:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the iCal agenda available via https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.ics doesn't seem to have the correct timezone information in it?
>>
>> Right, it seems the secretariat hasn't set any timezone information for
>> the meeting.  Setting that isn't something that they have been doing
>> previously, so it's even possible that their tools don't ask for this
>> information.  I'll send them a note about the matter.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> 	Henrik
> 

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On Oct 23, 2012, at 16:41, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
> The start of the file now says:

Yeah, I see that too.

> When I import this to iCal, things end up in the right place, as far =
as
> I can see.  Do we have an incompatibility issue here, rather than a
> missing timezone?  Which client do you use?

Google Calendar.

I just unsubscribed and resubscribed to =
http://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda.ics?IRTF,GEN,intarea,rtcweb,=
videocodec,avtcore,irs,mptcp,tcpm,nfsv4,tsvarea,tsvwg,rmcat,nvo3,saag,appa=
rea,opsawg,v6ops,dispatch,rtgarea and I still see things at the wrong =
time.

In iCal, things look correct.

Lars=

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Hi,

On Oct 23, 2012, at 17:17, "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
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> Google Calendar.

OK, figured it out. They cache the ics object too aggressively. When I =
changed the subscription URL by flipping two of the arguments, it picked =
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Hi Lars,

On 2012-10-23 17:20 Eggert, Lars said:
> Hi,
> 
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 17:17, "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
>  wrote:
>> Google Calendar.
> 
> OK, figured it out. They cache the ics object too aggressively. When I changed the subscription URL by flipping two of the arguments, it picked up the changes.

Ahh.  Ok, good -- I'd already started enhancing the very basic VTIMEZONE
information in the ical file by instead including a VTIMEZONE entry generated
from Olson data.  I'm going to complete that work, but your finding means that
I can make it part of a regular release, rather than patching the production
code.

Thanks for the update!


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Henrik,

We noticed that the agenda on the tools site for 6man is blank:

  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/agenda
  
The IETF one is fine:

  https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda/6man/

Please take a look.

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Hi Bob,

On 2012-10-29 19:59 Bob Hinden said the following:
> Henrik,
> 
> We noticed that the agenda on the tools site for 6man is blank:
> 
>   http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/agenda

Hmm.  Right.

> The IETF one is fine:
> 
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda/6man/
> 
> Please take a look.

Done, and fixed.  This was a result of some optimization I did Friday last
week, in response to a report that some pages could be slow to load from
some of the older tools servers.  6man is Ok now; the other WG agenda
pages is being updated as I write.

Thanks for the alert!


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Henrik,

Thanks for the quick fix.

Bob

On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> On 2012-10-29 19:59 Bob Hinden said the following:
>> Henrik,
>> 
>> We noticed that the agenda on the tools site for 6man is blank:
>> 
>>  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/agenda
> 
> Hmm.  Right.
> 
>> The IETF one is fine:
>> 
>>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/agenda/6man/
>> 
>> Please take a look.
> 
> Done, and fixed.  This was a result of some optimization I did Friday last
> week, in response to a report that some pages could be slow to load from
> some of the older tools servers.  6man is Ok now; the other WG agenda
> pages is being updated as I write.
> 
> Thanks for the alert!
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	Henrik
> 


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The sessions to be held in Room 209 don't seem to have audio feeds
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http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/85/

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Hi Peter,

On 2012-10-31 16:38 Peter Saint-Andre said the following:
> The sessions to be held in Room 209 don't seem to have audio feeds
> listed here:
>=20
> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/85/
>=20
> Is that a temporary glitch or will there really not be audio feeds
> from that room?

It's a glitch.  The agenda lists the room as 'Room 209', the stream feeds=

allocation list had it as '209'.  Fixed in the sources, the agenda should=

update shortly.

Thanks for the alert!


Best regards,

	Henrik



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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] audio feeds for Room 209?
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On 10/31/12 12:06 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 2012-10-31 16:38 Peter Saint-Andre said the following:
>> The sessions to be held in Room 209 don't seem to have audio
>> feeds listed here:
>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/85/
>> 
>> Is that a temporary glitch or will there really not be audio
>> feeds from that room?
> 
> It's a glitch.  The agenda lists the room as 'Room 209', the stream
> feeds allocation list had it as '209'.  Fixed in the sources, the
> agenda should update shortly.
> 
> Thanks for the alert!

And thanks for the quick fix. Now I can upload the final agenda for
the IRI WG. ;-)

Peter

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