From nobody Mon Aug 10 12:08:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9521D1B2DE6; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L6IRK-tPlv9v; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [209.234.253.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0072E1B2A13; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fifthhorseman.net (unknown [38.109.115.130]) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4373F984; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B93982012D; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 21:08:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor To: IETF tools discussion User-Agent: Notmuch/0.20.2 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:08:44 -0400 Message-ID: <87wpx3q7ur.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Archived-At: Cc: Paul Hoffman , barryleiba@gmail.com, IESG , RFC Errata System Subject: [Tools-discuss] [Barry Leiba] Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3207 (4442) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:08:49 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain hi IETF tools-ers-- I submitted the attached (rejected) erratum about RFC 3207, which has an appendix that describes its changes from RFC 2487. Since the RFC editor believes that there is no problem with the text of the RFC, the only problem is in the HTML-ization at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3207#page-8 Looks like the HTML links in that appendix should be adjusted to point to the older document's sections instead of the sections of the current document. If this should be reported somewhere else, please let me know, i'm happy to forward it. Regards, --dkg --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tOiXa1OL9xAenGaPkHpiOO2idgikBvO+2clnPuy+IY0=; b=w9UE//j5tKQQ5EHxZXpmATdkzKRuKDyHfR4xHGgZ5T2iFV/I0X950Im8PqYy8VV4U/ OvxKuXZcRSxN6NlbXmSBVRbE0wM7rdFy/wuC45h8F4o06UeJlc4vRU806Pi6wig0276x fei+thxl2doguW1fZ4n5MLptmTawAOkuButkldkSaX266gI1558J5wWoUFnML7ww238d 1JWMMPdkCpXBRit3biEaL67A4WlWDRqIEehKXvH2rfSRPN1eF4LX346gg1JSAD6F0O+M 0y6xR59zLLXEjjPDewll0/gQ/RAjH2lnvlZLGLOibrfh0IhgimWtrSxjmhUyZOLfoQZ5 WEwQ== Sender: barryleiba@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20150810171900.C2B46180208@rfc-editor.org> References: <20150810171900.C2B46180208@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:20:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3207 (4442) From: Barry Leiba To: RFC Errata System Cc: Paul Hoffman , IESG , Daniel Kahn Gillmor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Daniel, the tools-based HTML rendering is not the definitive version, and the errata system is not for recording problems with that version. There's no error in http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3207.txt I'm going to mark this report "Rejected". Barry On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:19 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3207, > "SMTP Service Extension for Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3207&eid=4442 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Daniel Kahn Gillmor > > Section: Appendix > > Original Text > ------------- > - Section 5 and 7: More discussion of the man-in-the-middle attacks > - Section 5: Additional discussion of when a server should and > should not advertise the STARTTLS extension > - Section 5: Changed the requirements on SMTP clients after > receiving a 220 response. > - Section 5.1: Clarified description of verifying certificates. > - Section 5.3: Added the section on "STARTTLS on the Submission > Port" > - Section 6: Bug fix in the example to indicate that the client > needs to issue a new EHLO command, as already is described in > section 5.2. > - Section 7: Clarification of the paragraph on acceptable degree of > privacy. Significant change to the discussion of how to avoid a > man-in-the-middle attack. > - Section A: Update reference from RFC 821 to RFC 2821. > > > Corrected Text > -------------- > - Section 4 and 6: More discussion of the man-in-the-middle attacks > - Section 4: Additional discussion of when a server should and > should not advertise the STARTTLS extension > - Section 4: Changed the requirements on SMTP clients after > receiving a 220 response. > - Section 4.1: Clarified description of verifying certificates. > - Section 4.3: Added the section on "STARTTLS on the Submission > Port" > - Section 5: Bug fix in the example to indicate that the client > needs to issue a new EHLO command, as already is described in > section 4.2. > - Section 5: Clarification of the paragraph on acceptable degree of > privacy. Significant change to the discussion of how to avoid a > man-in-the-middle attack. > - Section 7: Update reference from RFC 821 to RFC 2821. > > > Notes > ----- > The appendix lists the changes as they apply to the sections of rfc 2487, but the links in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3207#page-8 point back to the section numbers in RFC 3207. Either the section numbers referred to should be RFC 3207 numbers (the correction i'm proposing here), or the links within the HTML version should point back to RFC 2487 instead. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC3207 (draft-hoffman-rfc2487bis-06) > -------------------------------------- > Title : SMTP Service Extension for Secure SMTP over Transport Layer Security > Publication Date : February 2002 > Author(s) : P. Hoffman > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Legacy > Area : Legacy > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > --=-=-=-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 07:41:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4D41A8F46; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:41:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42_Z2wxvnoCO; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 647591A8BBF; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t7BEfmJ4068356 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:41:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:41:43 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-discuss@ietf.org, "" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Sparks List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:41:55 -0000 Folks - We are in the last stages of testing IMAP access to the IETF archives. To get a simple measure of load, we'd like to have a hundred or so geographically-distributed, simultaneous users accessing our test instance this Thursday with various clients. The test instance is getting mail with a slight delay after it comes into the lists - you should see current traffic. Please resist the temptation to download the entire archive of every list. I've done it - it's huge (~28G when MailMate does it) and it it's a severe torture test for clients. Interrupt your client if it starts trying to do that for you. Caching a copy of this test instance will not be useful to you when we deploy. Instead, what would help us the most is to configure your client to access those lists you normally subscribe to, and to spend some time Thursday browsing/searching those lists, and exploring a few lists that are new to you. If you're willing to take the time to do this, please drop me a note directly (I've set reply-to on this message) so I have a feel for whether I need to ask a bigger set of people. Feel free to pass this note along to other folks you think would be good constructive testers. You can find the details for where the test instance is listening, and some rudimentary instructions for setting up a few clients, at . Please improve that page as you see the opportunity. It's ok to start setting up the clients now, but remember that Thursday is when we really want people to exercise the instance. Also, please report any issues directly to me. Don't open tickets with the secretariat right now. We can also use tools-discuss@ietf.org for general conversation. (I've crossposted this to the chairs list. Again, reply directly to me, and steer general conversation towards tools-discuss). Thanks in advance for any time you can give this. RjS From nobody Fri Aug 14 07:31:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490D71A896F; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gd4bB8Ip8Pbw; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B57E1A8965; Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t7EEVpgi080001 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:31:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:31:46 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-discuss@ietf.org, "" References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Sparks List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:31:54 -0000 We had a few people testing, but only a handful. We need more please. This server is still running, please try working with it at your convenience. We'll schedule another day soon to try to all exercise it at the same time. RjS On 8/11/15 9:41 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Folks - > > We are in the last stages of testing IMAP access to the IETF archives. > > To get a simple measure of load, we'd like to have a hundred or so > geographically-distributed, simultaneous users accessing our test > instance > this Thursday with various clients. > > The test instance is getting mail with a slight delay after it comes > into the lists - you should > see current traffic. > > Please resist the temptation to download the entire archive of every > list. > I've done it - it's huge (~28G when MailMate does it) and it it's a > severe > torture test for clients. Interrupt your client if it starts trying to > do that for you. > Caching a copy of this test instance will not be useful to you when we > deploy. > > Instead, what would help us the most is to configure your client to > access those lists you normally > subscribe to, and to spend some time Thursday browsing/searching those > lists, and exploring a > few lists that are new to you. > > If you're willing to take the time to do this, please drop me a note > directly (I've set reply-to on this message) > so I have a feel for whether I need to ask a bigger set of people. > Feel free to pass this note along to other > folks you think would be good constructive testers. > > You can find the details for where the test instance is listening, and > some rudimentary instructions for > setting up a few clients, at > . Please > improve that page as you see the opportunity. It's ok to start setting > up the clients now, but remember > that Thursday is when we really want people to exercise the instance. > > Also, please report any issues directly to me. Don't open tickets with > the secretariat right now. > We can also use tools-discuss@ietf.org for general conversation. > > (I've crossposted this to the chairs list. Again, reply directly to > me, and steer general conversation towards tools-discuss). > > Thanks in advance for any time you can give this. > > RjS > > > > > From nobody Sun Aug 16 12:06:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC14D1A8860 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4JFMcu0_l3dF for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FAC81A8728 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbfr1 with SMTP id fr1so96418217obb.1 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1ACIqb8yHHUtrpP224/0Fsws6yn0vk0sm7Nm9A2a/t8=; b=YYAeJgu+UAHXaBd8MpstcP21lG+wuwPRctUfVV6P4mg51Jq7iBoZ4HkSNmUE3WQn7b hIaYu8FwbfVys04Yj1+LzGxMeV/ue4JgfGy5SJWSOTiZ465fQcCT3A0QHxtY4FgXThrK oFvIkfZis2c0R+CRwQGpD01Yz28YJIw7kAqykFipzP0wkzACcPjp9MmX0YhNGtmq8O6r /FYW/Pp8ARakLrgzeMjKHd2yWUbYM0jNwpuMOFrPaubOughyzb/5bIfN3phvGoTf0GKZ 4ntNBZHUOCO2jGUVPxeLASrjCQKTMKUDisndX4uUDTmbiMiHAuiKh3YcF/BlbBlF2V75 b0gw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlp1+XXDkaDORyXZ6XVW7U6gfQziRNkWTkC0fCX/L+WNMBavfCVgowcCbcu/tc4gpwxR/mW MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.145.228 with SMTP id sx4mr47528891oeb.79.1439751967273; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.174.144 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:06:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Kumari To: Robert Sparks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "" , Tools Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:06:10 -0000 For those who haven't tried this yet, I just set it up (Mail.app) and it Just Worked. No muss, no fuss... W On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > We had a few people testing, but only a handful. > We need more please. > > This server is still running, please try working with it at your > convenience. > We'll schedule another day soon to try to all exercise it at the same time. > > RjS > > > On 8/11/15 9:41 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> Folks - >> >> We are in the last stages of testing IMAP access to the IETF archives. >> >> To get a simple measure of load, we'd like to have a hundred or so >> geographically-distributed, simultaneous users accessing our test instance >> this Thursday with various clients. >> >> The test instance is getting mail with a slight delay after it comes into >> the lists - you should >> see current traffic. >> >> Please resist the temptation to download the entire archive of every list. >> I've done it - it's huge (~28G when MailMate does it) and it it's a severe >> torture test for clients. Interrupt your client if it starts trying to do >> that for you. >> Caching a copy of this test instance will not be useful to you when we >> deploy. >> >> Instead, what would help us the most is to configure your client to access >> those lists you normally >> subscribe to, and to spend some time Thursday browsing/searching those >> lists, and exploring a >> few lists that are new to you. >> >> If you're willing to take the time to do this, please drop me a note >> directly (I've set reply-to on this message) >> so I have a feel for whether I need to ask a bigger set of people. Feel >> free to pass this note along to other >> folks you think would be good constructive testers. >> >> You can find the details for where the test instance is listening, and >> some rudimentary instructions for >> setting up a few clients, at >> . Please >> improve that page as you see the opportunity. It's ok to start setting up >> the clients now, but remember >> that Thursday is when we really want people to exercise the instance. >> >> Also, please report any issues directly to me. Don't open tickets with the >> secretariat right now. >> We can also use tools-discuss@ietf.org for general conversation. >> >> (I've crossposted this to the chairs list. Again, reply directly to me, >> and steer general conversation towards tools-discuss). >> >> Thanks in advance for any time you can give this. >> >> RjS >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf From nobody Mon Aug 17 10:24:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163131ACD63; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id URXqnYVG85_i; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1F3F1ACD68; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t7HHOpmh078412 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:24:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <55D218DE.8060404@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 12:24:46 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Cloos , Alexey Melnikov References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> <55D21261.40600@isode.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:24:56 -0000 On 8/17/15 12:18 PM, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>> "AM" == Alexey Melnikov writes: >>> anonymous > AM> This currently not implemented, but on the to do list. > AM> You can use SASL PLAIN with your datatracker email address as the username. > > Ah. The announcement didn't mention that. > > And I never created an account at trac.tools.ietf, so didn't try > that.... You need to use your datatracker credentials, not the credentials for a tools account. (many people use the same credentials in both places, but they are separate databases) > Trying now. > > -JimC From nobody Mon Aug 24 08:24:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727981A1BE3 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:24:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.933 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MANGLED_SAVELE=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IpF7Y3OTVUMj for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C6CC1A1BBB for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049463.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049463.ppops.net-00191d01. 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A reminder message was sent later on, which is appended to the end of this message. As you can see, they all are of the form melthehybride+subaddress@gmail.com, nkymtky+subaddress@gmail.com and kemo.mart+subaddress@gmail.com. Using the admin interface, I can individually discard each address and ban that address from subscribing in the future. I would like to see an option to not only do that, but also to ban that address >>and all subaddresses<< for that user from subscribing in the future. Any hopes of seeing such an option? Tony Hansen The ... mailing list has 18 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admindb/... =09 Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. Pending subscriptions: melthehybrid+19819395@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 02:54:13 2015 melthehybrid+33161026@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:05:10 2015 nkymtky+82613960@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:11:11 2015 melthehybrid+21919817@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:35:45 2015 kemo.mart+34746317@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:37:07 2015 kemo.mart+98378946@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:41:26 2015 melthehybrid+25921869@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:42:33 2015 nkymtky+80059775@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:12:14 2015 melthehybrid+37518046@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:17:58 2015 nkymtky+44285674@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:20:00 2015 kemo.mart+64715691@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:24:38 2015 kemo.mart+96537012@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:32:40 2015 kemo.mart+87865270@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:55:01 2015 melthehybrid+63307273@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:39:08 2015 melthehybrid+93276538@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:45:13 2015 nkymtky+43297761@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 06:34:37 2015 nkymtky+91110227@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:05:28 2015 kemo.mart+81607935@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:40:28 2015 From nobody Mon Aug 24 12:02:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59961A21BC for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BeUKnT3cx8Rq for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DF761A1BAF for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qkbm65 with SMTP id m65so82256471qkb.2 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EXQhXxWSZSpVBm82ZFsDiee0SeyO8kCuGr2E/Wa9RrE=; b=bmX6FH9rklA4oPKwx+6iF7NVIJWySDBsWTiacEITuh4MoGIIIf4SQIrId3G0btxXst WCMNoAC4pMRkMramUSONMaZAa4G64XI3zAKESdJy8mnQp5ll31r+sY4NA4t+zOSStDTl +EfxbH/wIDb5ddnJRjjOMXbCVcKZMB2avKAeBwuybfB8B1B7abhoel5whbjD7rxvXVye TVCJK+vzvOrYRAkJAdImihwgOMuqDzXoXfV9sGX0flD87+k4zxegjV0ToUyyL5V6lBpC CffsDtfEek2boTbRsDarhIJ3Cidu7bgNW96Ky9qIv2jVK0ETh9n/8srYo/+EpAK3BPzI ZuRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.146.213 with SMTP id n204mr29082679ykc.104.1440442951711; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.49.4 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:02:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Hadriel Kaplan To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:02:35 -0000 Howdy, You have a very useful online tool to convert XML to RFC format online at xml2rfc.ietf.org, which makes it easy to view the XML source in the various formats without installing the xml2rfc tool and all. Thank you for providing the online means of doing that! What I'd like to ask is if it would be possible to provide a way to use that tool through an HTTP GET URI request, instead of the current forms-based input mode which requires a POST with multipart form data. In other words, instead of having to go on the site and clicking through the buttons and pasting a URL for the source and clicking "Submit", instead could we use a specially-formatted URL/URI link to do the same thing. For example, a URL like this: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/transform?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fpcapng%2Fpcapng%2Fmaster%2Fdraft-tuexen-opsawg-pcapng.xml&mode=html&format=ascii&type=ascii That's virtually identical to the form data in the current web page, except it would use a GET request and does not include the "Submit" action. This would only work for converting XML from URLs, not by uploading a file, obviously. The reason for this request is so that we can put that as an HTTP URL link in emails, docs, etc. Web browsers can dereference that URL link and immediately show the results, without having to clik on the submission form. For my particular use-case, it would allow me to keep an IETF draft on github and put the URL link in a README markdown page there, which github will render, and then users can click the link and be sent to the transformed page on xml2rfc.ietf.org. -hadriel From nobody Mon Aug 24 13:03:13 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394381ACD27 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WcyUsQM5ruRh for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71C141ACE18 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qkch123 with SMTP id h123so79597406qkc.0 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bx0RVFAiHxzVnAY0GH5rceKUg0iJjjEwYD2oeFD/Wb4=; b=ep6CHU1whGP1Uh1FO3nkM3UZ2sTZpzXSkugt1L0HlRxqidGrbjfo5wiwM8MPYV+I9q u3AWrSadXWWXoQYrso7T8XoZHy4ReqsK+wBSPFHpIM3TyWRmBZdG145QljkMdRSA/fd+ qDo+cSVXNtGuTqwP8QqqE3stqWl56XewdyMGeuoFrwl3eTHh7jvmsZFR+aPI4JE5Iwu/ bQ2KuwjjbQkOZXcX16f09RMn2G2eEkUnVX3QYlzxBiRXQm7FRTV28riihQb9CnL3JPrR rRI9wYZ9NBfAgGE1U3tesbAss2XkDWcY/yp8PpenLm+s0RvPflMxp/Z7T6S2p0IE7yHC GalQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.45.12 with SMTP id 12mr31834352ykn.26.1440446531691; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.133.130 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:02:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: Hadriel Kaplan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:03:12 -0000 On 24 August 2015 at 12:02, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > For my particular use-case, it would allow me to keep > an IETF draft on github and put the URL link in a README markdown page > there, which github will render, and then users can click the link and > be sent to the transformed page on xml2rfc.ietf.org. Perhaps you can check out the system I use, which might have a little more setup overhead than you might like: https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template#automatic-update-for-editors-copy You can see this in action in a few places: https://martinthomson.github.io/http-encryption/ etc... From nobody Mon Aug 24 13:07:21 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3DA1AD2D9 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id teE8HxqD---N for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D28A61A00CA for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0053301.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with SMTP id t7OK4Mwc035299 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:07:18 -0400 Received: from alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (sbcsmtp6.sbc.com [144.160.229.23]) by mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1wg693gy7r-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:07:18 -0400 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7OK7Hq7009897 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:07:17 -0400 Received: from alpi131.aldc.att.com (alpi131.aldc.att.com [130.8.218.69]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7OK7CW8009848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:07:14 -0400 Received: from alpi153.aldc.att.com (alpi153.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by alpi131.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:00 GMT Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7OK70Hu016933 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:07:00 -0400 Received: from dns.maillennium.att.com (maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7OK6uqC016405 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:06:56 -0400 Received: from tonys-macbook-pro.local (unknown[135.110.240.106](untrusted sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20150824200655gw1000ce53e>; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:06:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.110.240.106] To: Hadriel Kaplan , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Tony Hansen X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <55DB795E.1030508@att.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:06:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2015-08-24_04:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1507310000 definitions=main-1508240301 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:07:20 -0000 Take a look at the links on . Here is one example of how that can be done, taken from that page: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?url=3Dhttps://raw.githu= busercontent.com/masinter/pdfrfc/master/pdfrfc.xml&modeAsFormat=3Dtxt/asc= ii&type=3Dascii However, there's no guarantee that those arguments will always be support= ed. Tony On 8/24/15 3:02 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > Howdy, > > You have a very useful online tool to convert XML to RFC format online > at xml2rfc.ietf.org, which makes it easy to view the XML source in the > various formats without installing the xml2rfc tool and all. Thank you > for providing the online means of doing that! > > What I'd like to ask is if it would be possible to provide a way to > use that tool through an HTTP GET URI request, instead of the current > forms-based input mode which requires a POST with multipart form data. > In other words, instead of having to go on the site and clicking > through the buttons and pasting a URL for the source and clicking > "Submit", instead could we use a specially-formatted URL/URI link to > do the same thing. > > For example, a URL like this: > > http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/transform?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercon= tent.com%2Fpcapng%2Fpcapng%2Fmaster%2Fdraft-tuexen-opsawg-pcapng.xml&mode= =3Dhtml&format=3Dascii&type=3Dascii > > That's virtually identical to the form data in the current web page, > except it would use a GET request and does not include the "Submit" > action. > > This would only work for converting XML from URLs, not by uploading a > file, obviously. > > The reason for this request is so that we can put that as an HTTP URL > link in emails, docs, etc. Web browsers can dereference that URL link > and immediately show the results, without having to clik on the > submission form. For my particular use-case, it would allow me to keep > an IETF draft on github and put the URL link in a README markdown page > there, which github will render, and then users can click the link and > be sent to the transformed page on xml2rfc.ietf.org. > > -hadriel > From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:05:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8D41AC3D1; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m_CRHLw9rRAU; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statler.isode.com (statler.isode.com [217.34.220.151]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320DE1A8BC2; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:24:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1439825054; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=x8EkTYkz1DGEDsfV4WxAjOEZ6KNnoQV3Jkq48qGVXWI=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=ZhLZ7BYueVz299U5OHZXWuzPdpZCTd/VlH7hWx/9Q58UFxtj/V2Bah5qanqIEs4HF0/ojb CTaFFCUQuK3WBZbm7Be5AzIMyElz6juBpz0X+oA5gc3xlFT8jtJW9DmZxj6yD6UQ1DQAzX PvbcCX2/vrQmGuI8LHIuQVOmM9HjOKE=; Received: from [172.20.1.215] (dhcp-215.isode.net [172.20.1.215]) by statler.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:24:14 +0100 Message-ID: <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:24:05 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 To: James Cloos , Robert Sparks References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:05:23 -0700 Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:24:17 -0000 James, On 15/08/2015 22:41, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>> "RS" == Robert Sparks writes: > RS> We had a few people testing, but only a handful. > RS> We need more please. > > RS> This server is still running, please try working with it at your > RS> convenience. > RS> We'll schedule another day soon to try to all exercise it at the same time. > > I didn't see this until today. > > The imap server is too strict with the CRLF requirement. It should > accept just LF; most servers do so one forgets to use --crlf. Allow bare LFs where? In commands? This is against RFC 3501. > And the > error it gives when CR is left out doesn't explain the problem. > > Neither gnus nor k9 would work. I had to test it w/ gnutls-cli and > openssl s_client. I only tried anonymous. > > It looks like it requires: > > 1 login username password > > k9, at least, wanted to use AUTHENTICATE PLAIN, which failed with: > > NO, AUTHENTICATION has failed What have you used as your username? Best Regards, Alexey From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:05:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745D1A1A19; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p-7hs9-lFsM3; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (waldorf.isode.com [217.34.220.150]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164091A1A24; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:57:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1439830634; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=HFfOeDq4Q+qfBW18MpHrVsFKxVHefe7Yvh8uC4vJtMA=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=P3a0qPU6Mt7nbp/gTByXv7eunSUVSKepAj4iZHJildCHFThgm5pXv7UXwb1C4wXKSTZZjT jCRTcMQbjUDzaUIfkx2JttuG1qxgVUAvIEdoOG7VA3k5slJYnxi6zXUXG3Q9rcCHZfOWoO Cxv0KpO+dVJ05GYss/BksCc8eGKnbdo=; Received: from [172.20.1.215] (dhcp-215.isode.net [172.20.1.215]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:57:13 +0100 Message-ID: <55D21261.40600@isode.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:57:05 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 To: James Cloos References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:05:23 -0700 Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org, Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:57:17 -0000 Hi James, On 17/08/2015 16:43, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>> "AM" == Alexey Melnikov writes: > AM> Allow bare LFs where? In commands? This is against RFC 3501. > > nonetheless, all imap servers I've used accept them. > > Liberal in what you accept and all.... In my experience it helps to be strict to catch bugs. (Yes, I had to be very liberal when dealing with some widely deployed broken software.) >>> NO, AUTHENTICATION has failed > AM> What have you used as your username? > > anonymous This currently not implemented, but on the to do list. You can use SASL PLAIN with your datatracker email address as the username. From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:05:28 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC4C1A882B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sHzi59QQRsid for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0109.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A93DC1A87F1 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLUPR05MB292.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.23.27) by BLUPR05MB291.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.23.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.231.21; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:40:36 +0000 Received: from BLUPR05MB292.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.23.27]) by BLUPR05MB292.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.23.27]) with mapi id 15.01.0231.024; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:40:36 +0000 From: Chris Bowers To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: using the xml2rfc tool with a URL as a parameter Thread-Index: AdDaroF9CqSsHKB4Q6WsbpT+HtzIvw== Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:40:36 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=cbowers@juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [66.129.239.13] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR05MB291; 5:KDfCn7n5eRSJTQkE4xiHwexFYHLfsV//oBojo9BEr5Iz2FXeyEN9L2YjSWy74tcUICfkNutaHoMF1dAY+9a2MwlIgfjtraipb2dX+a2RyLmN1wR4Za5q0cMw++L8BNms/PkLci6PagM26RvWW7u9xg==; 24:oZm4oDR4W45+DWDui7OgoSPl9nKZZ/zwW8d2UJtPCr7ayLRjcj6n0CxT8agrltalkmkFs/n2Q73piPDgrbJ+V0k9OL7I+I+QExVyXZdfT90=; 20:Ps4sqgflexF5Pc+gkaR2zcT8mf8o2ngWdIbfTKGadYqOo0GMOxVQHwrWyleulKnxoGZOZUFXI3cErc19n6Bi8w== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR05MB291; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(108003899814671); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001); SRVR:BLUPR05MB291; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR05MB291; x-forefront-prvs: 0673F5BE31 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(199003)(164054003)(189002)(2501003)(64706001)(189998001)(5001960100002)(87936001)(2900100001)(99286002)(54356999)(74316001)(97736004)(50986999)(77096005)(68736005)(229853001)(5001920100001)(101416001)(81156007)(2656002)(2351001)(4001540100001)(76576001)(5003600100002)(450100001)(105586002)(107886002)(77156002)(62966003)(5002640100001)(46102003)(102836002)(122556002)(15975445007)(92566002)(5001830100001)(10400500002)(110136002)(19580395003)(40100003)(5001860100001)(86362001)(66066001)(33656002)(106356001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR05MB291; H:BLUPR05MB292.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BLUPR05MB29258E30DB0B4514A232A80A9670BLUPR05MB292namprd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 19 Aug 2015 18:40:36.0238 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR05MB291 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:05:23 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] using the xml2rfc tool with a URL as a parameter X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:40:40 -0000 --_000_BLUPR05MB29258E30DB0B4514A232A80A9670BLUPR05MB292namprd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if there is a way to use the xml2rfc tool in a way that I c= an pass the location of the XML source as a parameter in the URL, kind of l= ike rfcdiff does. https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-exten= sions-04.txt except that I want the parameter to be a fully qualified URL so it can poin= t to a file on github for example. I am using github for ietf drafts, and would like to be able to generate th= e most recent text with a single URL. Or have a Travis job that does it. = The instructions I currently give are shown below, but these are kind of ug= ly with cutting and pasting the URL. Is there a better way to do this? Thanks, Chris https://github.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm You can generate the text version of the most recent XML commit by pasting = the raw github content URL into the xml2rfc tool at: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorith= m/master/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm.xml --_000_BLUPR05MB29258E30DB0B4514A232A80A9670BLUPR05MB292namprd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was wondering if there is a way to use the xml2rfc tool in a way tha= t I can pass the location of the XML source as a parameter in the URL, kind= of like rfcdiff does. 
except that I want the parameter to be a fully qualified URL so it can= point to a file on github for example.
 
I am using github for ietf drafts, and would like to be able to genera= te the most recent text with a single URL.  Or have a Travis job that = does it.  The instructions I currently give are shown below, but these= are kind of ugly with cutting and pasting the URL.  Is there a better way to do this?
 
Thanks,
Chris
 
You can generate the text version of the most recent XML commit by past= ing the raw github content URL into the xml2rfc tool at:
 
 
 --_000_BLUPR05MB29258E30DB0B4514A232A80A9670BLUPR05MB292namprd_-- From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:06:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78551B29C7; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s0-iBNCXTh0F; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ore.jhcloos.com (ore.jhcloos.com [198.147.22.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7017D1ACD8D; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 78CE622812; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore14; t=1439674968; bh=qUVUMGCVGRvqOd1rm9pGUVl9ofrbQBJhdyBF4VHBygo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=o4iZMALgh0kn+n3sHJSCWb6LG1VZe46+V5T2jbnv1eofRR5ZeVL2pbtI/+wZl6X5J cXZ+Y/s25TlhqZY5NBAgiNXjMtK97V/pMWlkkab80PvGy4d/WnX3Bl62bEhJRgrApS kzWs7OFucv6/tOWdS2EVkWh88fxdDa730CUcMO+8= Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 52D31106FD888; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:41:02 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: Robert Sparks In-Reply-To: <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> (Robert Sparks's message of "Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:31:46 -0500") References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 17:41:02 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 29 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Hashcash: 1:28:150815:rjsparks@nostrum.com::ZSBObqpxC3RgbWlZ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000006XXVr X-Hashcash: 1:28:150815:tools-discuss@ietf.org::JrgsFuHFIBDQuPpg:000000000000000000000000000000000000003GzK8 X-Hashcash: 1:28:150815:wgchairs\@ietf.org\::xl1Y4YEQDeOMK3V1:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000FAdlB X-Hashcash: 1:28:150815:wgchairs@ietf.org::ELrENy3C/bLszVnj:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000003I+np X-Hashcash: 1:28:150815:rjs@nostrum.com::z/yu/YepW5QpBD/x:05Ceju Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:06:34 -0700 Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org, Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:42:51 -0000 >>>>> "RS" == Robert Sparks writes: RS> We had a few people testing, but only a handful. RS> We need more please. RS> This server is still running, please try working with it at your RS> convenience. RS> We'll schedule another day soon to try to all exercise it at the same time. I didn't see this until today. The imap server is too strict with the CRLF requirement. It should accept just LF; most servers do so one forgets to use --crlf. And the error it gives when CR is left out doesn't explain the problem. Neither gnus nor k9 would work. I had to test it w/ gnutls-cli and openssl s_client. I only tried anonymous. It looks like it requires: 1 login username password k9, at least, wanted to use AUTHENTICATE PLAIN, which failed with: NO, AUTHENTICATION has failed -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6 From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:06:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE091ACD19; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:47:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xytAiFPDSyt6; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ore.jhcloos.com (ore.jhcloos.com [198.147.22.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48D3F1ACD10; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4319322814; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:47:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore14; t=1439826437; bh=PTduf3B9Jdj5JaTVfQiB1jd4LGX2fvUbPwjwxE7V2rM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ReVLvravFUOz1jqCOQvqgYFJUW0Imjgsr+ejA2Zb3h7fME75GAXrv+bxVDwI24rAX 5aEXdInmd++tb+Otv5RryFVPj/utnR+FpxOsoJhEWe5TRBNW9WYGVIPRsxaOdvZXos dl/7O4AjUiL3viD3go8ygAfsi7/1QsDUOhV/adPI= Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8C4C2106FD888; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: Alexey Melnikov In-Reply-To: <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> (Alexey Melnikov's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:24:05 +0100") References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:43:56 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:alexey.melnikov@isode.com::JhDkgoU9z+Sdym4y:00000000000000000000000000000000000FnjMj X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:rjsparks@nostrum.com::FHEj8TfCY0VUk3eH:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000J/4Nv X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:wgchairs\@ietf.org\::nVbGEjdceKNzDjRU:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000LAxOX X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:wgchairs@ietf.org::JDOTUaNPFE6da6QH:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000007iy9Z X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:tools-discuss@ietf.org::AEK2k/Fh64lNy9jg:0000000000000000000000000000000000000029cES Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:06:34 -0700 Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org, Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:47:19 -0000 >>>>> "AM" == Alexey Melnikov writes: AM> Allow bare LFs where? In commands? This is against RFC 3501. nonetheless, all imap servers I've used accept them. Liberal in what you accept and all.... >> NO, AUTHENTICATION has failed AM> What have you used as your username? anonymous -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6 From nobody Tue Aug 25 01:06:37 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402C31ACD23; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sECucxdLs128; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ore.jhcloos.com (ore.jhcloos.com [198.147.22.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B19601ACD1D; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 1B7CD22814; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore14; t=1439832079; bh=cLaGwlhePyy3rTm99RpjccUshj5UjPaBE8nsima4Roo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=kzKkWh+HMN6UNFC1BzTOX3BSsbb3dJ+9+4sX/EawaQRBGXaW/l3nUp4WfK7F+bAgW gYLAXeKu6KbHaOOKBnUe6w+l/Hnek5KATof2LfRqltW+4LYBTtVp15GNodmb4BQYWc gzLowDrBZM5yTcFb3Hse7TZ9TiFfVE9KRa83B6wg= Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 31013106FD888; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:18:24 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: Alexey Melnikov In-Reply-To: <55D21261.40600@isode.com> (Alexey Melnikov's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:57:05 +0100") References: <55CA09A7.1030801@nostrum.com> <55CDFBD2.7070409@nostrum.com> <55D1FC95.2040504@isode.com> <55D21261.40600@isode.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2015 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:18:24 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:alexey.melnikov@isode.com::xfLYLTGZ4Fhco8GL:000000000000000000000000000000000000czh/ X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:rjsparks@nostrum.com::v04BBz/DiDnHnI7O:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000BgMof X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:wgchairs\@ietf.org\::MejmqIBCr6Qg/m1T:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000FybpW X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:wgchairs@ietf.org::QnA4rBN/MWQCy8+t:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000008V61Q X-Hashcash: 1:28:150817:tools-discuss@ietf.org::IrnxR2/ELb1MTRYH:00000000000000000000000000000000000000PbY4g Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:06:34 -0700 Cc: "" , Tools-discuss@ietf.org, Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Help test IMAP access to the IETF archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:21:22 -0000 >>>>> "AM" == Alexey Melnikov writes: >> anonymous AM> This currently not implemented, but on the to do list. AM> You can use SASL PLAIN with your datatracker email address as the username. Ah. The announcement didn't mention that. And I never created an account at trac.tools.ietf, so didn't try that.... Trying now. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6 From the.real.hadriel@gmail.com Fri Aug 21 05:24:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813631A890C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pUxF2KCSx8t1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-x235.google.com (mail-yk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F101A8907 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykll84 with SMTP id l84so68031733ykl.0 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IkhzkNt79i34a6wFaouJoe64GWAe+UCHbHAUQj+AVGo=; b=fXBchwpwf93JNe99ooZlsrz+YuUoQkGlxQU7/StKv2Ep+ERFuzhNnxHMbRG2g39Re1 k4Khutbl7VzCg6ShMbKV39EjuzUNz68AQ3aEzPdkjrTVp8CHyvZ2+lSE7A6PpY1mnkCb swzvROWTJh7exaf6Pc27z/0Y3+v7HLGuT9IXGFy9StHmpsSdeMJ4Zyat1tf9PYTafE+j NghJHZaG0/fPyZF5o7nJ+REE1tByd4J5HYHqY5u3n4DZ4L2orjtl9jCmFkYROfSV7jHe SsbpPgSMqB3GhAmsnQDbIFe5ByE+FR2tGYPUasSAfzthhg8HsNZjxUPAiRQ3H1jmpAD4 a5pg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.246.70 with SMTP id g67mr10182371ywf.75.1440159881316; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.49.4 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:24:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Hadriel Kaplan To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:06:34 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] IETF xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:26:23 -0000 Howdy, You have a very useful online tool to convert XML to RFC format online at xml2rfc.ietf.org, which makes it easy to view the XML source in the various formats without installing the xml2rfc tool and all. Thank you for providing the online means of doing that! What I'd like to ask is if it would be possible to provide a way to use that tool through an HTTP GET URI request, instead of the current forms-based input mode which requires a POST with multipart form data. In other words, instead of having to go on the site and clicking through the buttons and pasting a URL for the source and clicking "Submit", instead could we use a specially-formatted URL/URI link to do the same thing. For example, a URI like this: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/transform?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fpcapng%2Fpcapng%2Fmaster%2Fdraft-tuexen-opsawg-pcapng.xml&mode=html&format=ascii&type=ascii That's virtually identical to the form data in the current web page, except it would use a GET request and does not include the "Submit" action. This would only work for converting XML from URLs, not by uploading a file, obviously. The reason for this request is so that we can put that as an HTTP URL link in emails, docs, etc. Web browsers can dereference that URL link and immediately show the results, without having to clik on the submission form. For my particular use-case, it would allow me to keep an IETF draft on github and put the URL link in a README markdown page there, which github will render, and then users can click the link and be sent to the transformed page on xml2rfc.ietf.org. -hadriel From nobody Tue Aug 25 05:07:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C281A004B for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bV-z-5veso0B for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-x230.google.com (mail-yk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F135D1A1A9B for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykbi184 with SMTP id i184so153069186ykb.2 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JPVzrpwLzTZbcK2R0lrRV9zvsveao3HrTLBR3Ml6jbI=; b=e79GB+qujTlypn3vFBqCJTPiwxLlqlGI3Ag/Omev7dD6kRIa++ol5EmjxxG9bz2EZf DP2s0oGF4KxHH2s3j1Out3v+jsRHYkXZsE9p8HouvEChRJu2J6G9HU09Tp8pmE3U90b+ 5eAlKRCkGpUQ+U/cEgLLMPRgxzJ7Aq3mYs1ZI6Zr6VgqmQYE6m8bE700MWjmvRKOGO8w CAEhF2+W1qpHGx4F651WM5h8uw4b+1uOngSRi10C/bH/wiEi8TQkE1Li2qQFLHc9P4fw fE3HPVRWb42ldN/SO2L2eImr39QQTbMNzlQI2uEkW03KSMAi4QmC4qgaBWV78KCzt9H8 4kAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.57.85 with SMTP id g82mr36575850ywa.143.1440504427338; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.49.4 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:07:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Hadriel Kaplan To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:07:09 -0000 Hi Martin! Yup, saw that - in fact it was the fallback plan, or maybe the long-term plan. :) But yes, as you said it's quite a bit more setup work. -hadriel On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 24 August 2015 at 12:02, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >> For my particular use-case, it would allow me to keep >> an IETF draft on github and put the URL link in a README markdown page >> there, which github will render, and then users can click the link and >> be sent to the transformed page on xml2rfc.ietf.org. > > Perhaps you can check out the system I use, which might have a little > more setup overhead than you might like: > > https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template#automatic-update-for-editors-copy > > You can see this in action in a few places: > https://martinthomson.github.io/http-encryption/ > etc... From nobody Tue Aug 25 05:07:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60551B2CC0 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m9O1YD0wtlUS for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-x229.google.com (mail-yk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62B131A6EED for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykll84 with SMTP id l84so152522020ykl.0 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=avAOLwJZ0DE8WGIc53YUTDsBpDBR51FC9h1woa5uxaA=; b=npNoJCUOHvHvOQSrF2DDh3APKzte5plohDohom0ImWWiYUjsdDWiNeQje1fgVY5VVt SXapBM8gaUI35fQwOpO6FGh/Al9AGpMPdAlmSP6kel974VkCpVo5Q7TGKpuhK9H33puC K6D8zCNVjSqcWfKTvYaih+BNWJeCKvdosO0qRejS2yROBpZ8YToFvjSjxx4gQeIpN0xM ZKrNeN7PNymL2YGWea7tEmAL73KVx37FlVztGoeoZkaOQYv+6/JvZvyI7Uk2Gwpj5TPN xk+AZhlrHG082Io1VOiKUJG9VF7xm+E199OA1y8ybDLsUkHd1o0BaZUWru4RNo7sWMF3 /l/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.238.195 with SMTP id x186mr36184447ywe.168.1440504463819; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.49.4 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:07:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55DB795E.1030508@att.com> References: <55DB795E.1030508@att.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:07:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Hadriel Kaplan To: Tony Hansen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc online tool transform as a GET query X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:07:45 -0000 Whoa... perfect. Thanks! -hadriel On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: > Take a look at the links on . Here > is one example of how that can be done, taken from that page: > > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/masinter/pdfrfc/master/pdfrfc.xml&modeAsFormat=txt/ascii&type=ascii > > However, there's no guarantee that those arguments will always be supported. > > Tony > From nobody Tue Aug 25 05:14:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B198E1B2E1C for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pSS4RVbSymy4 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-x233.google.com (mail-yk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1F41B2D28 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykdt205 with SMTP id t205so154002647ykd.1 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RKNJr0B46PagZtSbx9ujzK2qXxdFnkd2wI/ub8G1uvU=; b=KWF6P7XGt04tZGqLbFlCPJJDeHMqlbL9vE2EtxYs6nxBd7DypgrBDNvw+sTSb5xpTV CsPYKABvZ7sBxrPQd7ctz0y66fmDiWD7q+YOKtyzDb71XxBNdAueeiPZjQ4ySxlLl8fg 7ZcIejayjhwPeDSG6wvZ3EdRGftEp08QpC5QbtqYqc9D33E4LWIqnrzRlUWtSJLwkBsZ bUGMK7+ATogwQv89i1vq2kEF+TDaLpzlPNlYb38huwFuewoLVt7WZz72blqv1J02z1k5 68ko+J98XZvW6yV5rJkQm9oa28+UluoeVEG22FXGxO1OD8zVzO5CWPDRRGuBmmRN/Wol 2FvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.222.137 with SMTP id o131mr35740460ykf.27.1440504852590; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.49.4 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:14:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: Hadriel Kaplan To: Chris Bowers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] using the xml2rfc tool with a URL as a parameter X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:14:14 -0000 By complete coincidence the same topic just came up yesterday, and the answers were the following two methods are possible: 1) http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg04281.html 2) http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg04282.html I used the method (2) for the following repo currently, with pretty badges in the README as well: https://github.com/pcapng/pcapng ... although one of the other contributors for that repo is apparently bored, so he's changing it to do method (1) sometime soon. -hadriel On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Chris Bowers wrote: > I was wondering if there is a way to use the xml2rfc tool in a way that I > can pass the location of the XML source as a parameter in the URL, kind of > like rfcdiff does. > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-04.txt > except that I want the parameter to be a fully qualified URL so it can point > to a file on github for example. > > I am using github for ietf drafts, and would like to be able to generate the > most recent text with a single URL. Or have a Travis job that does it. The > instructions I currently give are shown below, but these are kind of ugly > with cutting and pasting the URL. Is there a better way to do this? > > Thanks, > Chris > > https://github.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm > You can generate the text version of the most recent XML commit by pasting > the raw github content URL into the xml2rfc tool at: > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm/master/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm.xml > > > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > From nobody Wed Aug 26 09:28:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE711A8957 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.056 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.056 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MANGLED_SAVELE=2.3, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R4IgL-G5sL82 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0281A6F2A for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049462.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with SMTP id t7QGP3SK003445 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:28:07 -0400 Received: from alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (sbcsmtp6.sbc.com [144.160.229.23]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. with ESMTP id 1wg69373m3-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:28:07 -0400 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7QGS6HU006780 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:28:07 -0400 Received: from alpi132.aldc.att.com (alpi132.aldc.att.com [130.8.217.2]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7QGS3sa006761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:28:05 -0400 Received: from alpi153.aldc.att.com (alpi153.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by alpi132.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:27:51 GMT Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7QGRpp5030343 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:27:51 -0400 Received: from dns.maillennium.att.com (maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7QGRnsN030243 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:27:49 -0400 Received: from tonys-macbook-pro.local (unknown[135.110.241.85](untrusted sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20150826162747gw1000ce60e>; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:27:48 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.110.241.85] References: <55DB36FC.7040309@att.com> <038A2B9D-F142-4049-9AB1-ED2E211DF392@sobco.com> Cc: Tools Team Discussion From: Tony Hansen Message-ID: <55DDE903.1040804@att.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:27:47 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <038A2B9D-F142-4049-9AB1-ED2E211DF392@sobco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070003080600010807030606" X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2015-08-26_05:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1507310000 definitions=main-1508260260 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] spam subscriptions using + subaddresses X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:28:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070003080600010807030606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suresh Krishnan found a solution for this. I just put the regular expressions into my Privacy section -- hope it works. Tony Hansen On August 25, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi all, > One of the lists I moderate was inundated with a flood of subscribe > messages from emails of the pattern > > nkymtky+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com > kemo.mart+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com > melthehybrid+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com > > Two other moderators and I cleared up about 60 of these requests by > discarding manually but they kept coming. Looking for a better solution > to the problem, we found a ban_list in the Privacy options for the > mailman lists. This ban_list allows a regex for people who will > automatically be banned from joining. I added the following emails to > the ban_list and the flood stopped. > > ^kemo\.mart.*@gmail.com > ^nkymtky.*@gmail.com > ^melthehybrid.*@gmail.com > > I heard there are other lists that are having the same problems. Hope > this can help. > > Thanks > Suresh On 8/24/15 11:30 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote: > I am also seeing these on two of the lists I manage > > it would be great be able to ban an address prefix (e.g. melthehybrid) > > but seeing that the mailing list management is Mailman it may not be easy to fix this > > Scott > >> On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Tony Hansen wrote: >> >> This morning, there were close to 20 spam subscriptions to one of the >> mailing lists of which I'm an adminstrator. A reminder message was sent >> later on, which is appended to the end of this message. >> >> As you can see, they all are of the form >> melthehybride+subaddress@gmail.com, nkymtky+subaddress@gmail.com and >> kemo.mart+subaddress@gmail.com. >> >> Using the admin interface, I can individually discard each address and >> ban that address from subscribing in the future. >> >> I would like to see an option to not only do that, but also to ban that >> address >>and all subaddresses<< for that user from subscribing in the >> future. >> >> Any hopes of seeing such an option? >> >> Tony Hansen >> >> The ... mailing list has 18 request(s) waiting for >> your consideration at: >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admindb/... >> >> Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of >> pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. >> >> Pending subscriptions: >> melthehybrid+19819395@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 02:54:13 2015 >> melthehybrid+33161026@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:05:10 2015 >> nkymtky+82613960@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:11:11 2015 >> melthehybrid+21919817@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:35:45 2015 >> kemo.mart+34746317@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:37:07 2015 >> kemo.mart+98378946@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:41:26 2015 >> melthehybrid+25921869@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:42:33 2015 >> nkymtky+80059775@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:12:14 2015 >> melthehybrid+37518046@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:17:58 2015 >> nkymtky+44285674@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:20:00 2015 >> kemo.mart+64715691@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:24:38 2015 >> kemo.mart+96537012@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:32:40 2015 >> kemo.mart+87865270@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:55:01 2015 >> melthehybrid+63307273@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:39:08 2015 >> melthehybrid+93276538@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:45:13 2015 >> nkymtky+43297761@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 06:34:37 2015 >> nkymtky+91110227@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:05:28 2015 >> kemo.mart+81607935@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:40:28 2015 >> >> >> >> -- >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --------------070003080600010807030606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Suresh Krishnan found a solution for this. I just put the regular expressions into my Privacy section -- hope it works.

    Tony Hansen

On August 25, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
Hi all,
   One of the lists I moderate was inundated with a flood of subscribe 
messages from emails of the pattern

nkymtky+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
kemo.mart+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
melthehybrid+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com

Two other moderators and I cleared up about 60 of these requests by 
discarding manually but they kept coming. Looking for a better solution 
to the problem, we found a ban_list in the Privacy options for the 
mailman lists. This ban_list allows a regex for people who will 
automatically be banned from joining. I added the following emails to 
the ban_list and the flood stopped.

^kemo\.mart.*@gmail.com
^nkymtky.*@gmail.com
^melthehybrid.*@gmail.com

I heard there are other lists that are having the same problems. Hope 
this can help.

Thanks
Suresh


On 8/24/15 11:30 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
I am also seeing these on two of the lists I manage 

it would be great be able to ban an address prefix (e.g. melthehybrid) 

but seeing that the mailing list management is Mailman it may not be easy to fix this

Scott


On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> wrote:

This morning, there were close to 20 spam subscriptions to one of the
mailing lists of which I'm an adminstrator. A reminder message was sent
later on, which is appended to the end of this message.

As you can see, they all are of the form
melthehybride+subaddress@gmail.com, nkymtky+subaddress@gmail.com and
kemo.mart+subaddress@gmail.com.

Using the admin interface, I can individually discard each address and
ban that address from subscribing in the future.

I would like to see an option to not only do that, but also to ban that
address >>and all subaddresses<< for that user from subscribing in the
future.

Any hopes of seeing such an option?

   Tony Hansen

The ... mailing list has 18 request(s) waiting for
your consideration at:

	https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admindb/...
	
Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.

Pending subscriptions:
   melthehybrid+19819395@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 02:54:13 2015
   melthehybrid+33161026@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:05:10 2015
   nkymtky+82613960@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:11:11 2015
   melthehybrid+21919817@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:35:45 2015
   kemo.mart+34746317@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:37:07 2015
   kemo.mart+98378946@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:41:26 2015
   melthehybrid+25921869@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:42:33 2015
   nkymtky+80059775@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:12:14 2015
   melthehybrid+37518046@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:17:58 2015
   nkymtky+44285674@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:20:00 2015
   kemo.mart+64715691@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:24:38 2015
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And now you need to add this to the banned list:

^purple\.kecleon.*@gmail.com

I expect more will follow until the idiot is stopped. Anybody got a clue on
how to trace the source?

Regards
   Brian

On 27/08/2015 04:27, Tony Hansen wrote:
> Suresh Krishnan found a solution for this. I just put the regular
> expressions into my Privacy section -- hope it works.
> 
>     Tony Hansen
> 
> On August 25, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>    One of the lists I moderate was inundated with a flood of subscribe 
>> messages from emails of the pattern
>>
>> nkymtky+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>> kemo.mart+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>> melthehybrid+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>>
>> Two other moderators and I cleared up about 60 of these requests by 
>> discarding manually but they kept coming. Looking for a better solution 
>> to the problem, we found a ban_list in the Privacy options for the 
>> mailman lists. This ban_list allows a regex for people who will 
>> automatically be banned from joining. I added the following emails to 
>> the ban_list and the flood stopped.
>>
>> ^kemo\.mart.*@gmail.com
>> ^nkymtky.*@gmail.com
>> ^melthehybrid.*@gmail.com
>>
>> I heard there are other lists that are having the same problems. Hope 
>> this can help.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Suresh
> 
> 
> On 8/24/15 11:30 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
>> I am also seeing these on two of the lists I manage 
>>
>> it would be great be able to ban an address prefix (e.g. melthehybrid) 
>>
>> but seeing that the mailing list management is Mailman it may not be easy to fix this
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Tony Hansen  wrote:
>>>
>>> This morning, there were close to 20 spam subscriptions to one of the
>>> mailing lists of which I'm an adminstrator. A reminder message was sent
>>> later on, which is appended to the end of this message.
>>>
>>> As you can see, they all are of the form
>>> melthehybride+subaddress@gmail.com, nkymtky+subaddress@gmail.com and
>>> kemo.mart+subaddress@gmail.com.
>>>
>>> Using the admin interface, I can individually discard each address and
>>> ban that address from subscribing in the future.
>>>
>>> I would like to see an option to not only do that, but also to ban that
>>> address >>and all subaddresses<< for that user from subscribing in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Any hopes of seeing such an option?
>>>
>>>    Tony Hansen
>>>
>>> The ... mailing list has 18 request(s) waiting for
>>> your consideration at:
>>>
>>> 	https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admindb/...
>>> 	
>>> Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
>>> pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
>>>
>>> Pending subscriptions:
>>>    melthehybrid+19819395@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 02:54:13 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+33161026@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:05:10 2015
>>>    nkymtky+82613960@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:11:11 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+21919817@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:35:45 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+34746317@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:37:07 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+98378946@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:41:26 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+25921869@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:42:33 2015
>>>    nkymtky+80059775@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:12:14 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+37518046@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:17:58 2015
>>>    nkymtky+44285674@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:20:00 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+64715691@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:24:38 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+96537012@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:32:40 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+87865270@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:55:01 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+63307273@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:39:08 2015
>>>    melthehybrid+93276538@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:45:13 2015
>>>    nkymtky+43297761@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 06:34:37 2015
>>>    nkymtky+91110227@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:05:28 2015
>>>    kemo.mart+81607935@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:40:28 2015
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Is there a >master< subscription block list for all of the ietf.org
mailing lists? These seem worthy of adding there.

    Tony

On 8/26/15 5:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> And now you need to add this to the banned list:
>
> ^purple\.kecleon.*@gmail.com
>
> I expect more will follow until the idiot is stopped. Anybody got a clue on
> how to trace the source?
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 27/08/2015 04:27, Tony Hansen wrote:
>> Suresh Krishnan found a solution for this. I just put the regular
>> expressions into my Privacy section -- hope it works.
>>
>>     Tony Hansen
>>
>> On August 25, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>    One of the lists I moderate was inundated with a flood of subscribe 
>>> messages from emails of the pattern
>>>
>>> nkymtky+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>>> kemo.mart+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>>> melthehybrid+NNNNNNNN at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Two other moderators and I cleared up about 60 of these requests by 
>>> discarding manually but they kept coming. Looking for a better solution 
>>> to the problem, we found a ban_list in the Privacy options for the 
>>> mailman lists. This ban_list allows a regex for people who will 
>>> automatically be banned from joining. I added the following emails to 
>>> the ban_list and the flood stopped.
>>>
>>> ^kemo\.mart.*@gmail.com
>>> ^nkymtky.*@gmail.com
>>> ^melthehybrid.*@gmail.com
>>>
>>> I heard there are other lists that are having the same problems. Hope 
>>> this can help.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Suresh
>>
>> On 8/24/15 11:30 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
>>> I am also seeing these on two of the lists I manage 
>>>
>>> it would be great be able to ban an address prefix (e.g. melthehybrid) 
>>>
>>> but seeing that the mailing list management is Mailman it may not be easy to fix this
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Tony Hansen  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This morning, there were close to 20 spam subscriptions to one of the
>>>> mailing lists of which I'm an adminstrator. A reminder message was sent
>>>> later on, which is appended to the end of this message.
>>>>
>>>> As you can see, they all are of the form
>>>> melthehybride+subaddress@gmail.com, nkymtky+subaddress@gmail.com and
>>>> kemo.mart+subaddress@gmail.com.
>>>>
>>>> Using the admin interface, I can individually discard each address and
>>>> ban that address from subscribing in the future.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see an option to not only do that, but also to ban that
>>>> address >>and all subaddresses<< for that user from subscribing in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Any hopes of seeing such an option?
>>>>
>>>>    Tony Hansen
>>>>
>>>> The ... mailing list has 18 request(s) waiting for
>>>> your consideration at:
>>>>
>>>> 	https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admindb/...
>>>> 	
>>>> Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
>>>> pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
>>>>
>>>> Pending subscriptions:
>>>>    melthehybrid+19819395@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 02:54:13 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+33161026@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:05:10 2015
>>>>    nkymtky+82613960@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:11:11 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+21919817@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:35:45 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+34746317@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:37:07 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+98378946@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:41:26 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+25921869@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 03:42:33 2015
>>>>    nkymtky+80059775@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:12:14 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+37518046@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:17:58 2015
>>>>    nkymtky+44285674@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:20:00 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+64715691@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:24:38 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+96537012@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:32:40 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+87865270@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 04:55:01 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+63307273@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:39:08 2015
>>>>    melthehybrid+93276538@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 05:45:13 2015
>>>>    nkymtky+43297761@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 06:34:37 2015
>>>>    nkymtky+91110227@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:05:28 2015
>>>>    kemo.mart+81607935@gmail.com Mon Aug 24 07:40:28 2015
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss
>>>>
>>>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
>>>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or
>>>> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org
>>
>>
>>


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Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript version of the mail =
archives directly to the non-JS version of the archives?
So:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Drtgwg
would have a link directly to:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/maillist.html

It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access the non-JS versio=
n of the archives, but new participants might not know there are two views.

I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2 on Windows 7 where=
 the window will not scroll past the first 21 messages displayed in the Jav=
ascript version.  I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find the ol=
d non-JS view in order to be able to see the archive.  A direct link would =
be helpful.

Thanks,
Chris




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Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript version of the =
mail archives directly to the non-JS version of the archives? 


So:



would have a link directly to:



 


It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access the non-JS v=
ersion of the archives, but new participants might not know there are two v=
iews. 


 


I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2 on Windows 7 =
where the window will not scroll past the first 21 messages displayed in th=
e Javascript version.  I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to f=
ind the old non-JS view in order to be
able to see the archive.  A direct link would be helpful.


 


Thanks,


Chris


 


 


 





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On 8/26/15 6:10 PM, Chris Bowers wrote:
> Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript version of the 
> mail archives directly to the non-JS version of the archives?
> So:
> _https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=rtgwg_
> would have a link directly to:
> _https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/maillist.html_
> It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access the non-JS 
> version of the archives, but new participants might not know there are 
> two views.
> I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2 on Windows 7 
> where the window will not scroll past the first 21 messages displayed 
> in the Javascript version.
Did you file a bug on this?

If you encounter it again, try changing the size of the preview window 
(it has a handle to change it's vertical dimension) and see if that 
causes the updates to work correctly.
(That's a workaround, not a fix).
> I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find the old non-JS view 
> in order to be able to see the archive.  A direct link would be helpful.
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>


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Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript
            version of the mail archives directly to the non-JS version
            of the archives? 

          
So:

          
          
would have a link directly to:

          
          
 

          
It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access
            the non-JS version of the archives, but new participants
            might not know there are two views. 

          
 

          
I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2
            on Windows 7 where the window will not scroll past the first
            21 messages displayed in the Javascript version.  

        

    Did you file a bug on this?

        

        If you encounter it again, try changing the size of the preview
        window (it has a handle to change it's vertical dimension) and
        see if that causes the updates to work correctly.

        (That's a workaround, not a fix).

      
    

          
I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find the
            old non-JS view in order to be
            able to see the archive.  A direct link would be helpful.

          
 

          
Thanks,

          
Chris

          
 

          
 

          
 

        
      

      

      

    

    

  


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> 
> On 8/26/15 6:10 PM, Chris Bowers wrote:
>> Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript version of the mail archives directly to the non-JS version of the
>> archives?
>> So:
>> _https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=rtgwg_
>> would have a link directly to:
>> _https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/maillist.html_
>> It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access the non-JS version of the archives, but new participants might not
>> know there are two views.
>> I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2 on Windows 7 where the window will not scroll past the first 21
>> messages displayed in the Javascript version.
> Did you file a bug on this?

1. I am not seeing this bug, with the same Firefox version and Win 7.

2. But I agree with the request - I want to use the old archive format 95% of the time
and it's a pain to have to construct the URL each time.

   Brian


> 
> If you encounter it again, try changing the size of the preview window (it has a handle to change it's vertical dimension) and
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> (That's a workaround, not a fix).
>> I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find the old non-JS view in order to be able to see the archive.  A direct link
>> would be helpful.
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Robert,

I think the problem with scrolling to the bottom not triggering ajax reques=
ts is in line 147 of search.js.

if($(this).scrollTop() + $(this).innerHeight() =3D=3D $(this)[0].scrollHeig=
ht) {

Using Firebug, I observed that innerHeight() can return fractional values, =
so the equality will not be satisfied.  For example, when I put a watch on =
the three expressions in this condional, when the scrollbar is at the botto=
m , I get
scrollTop() =3D 385
innerHeight() =3D 119.083333
[0] scrollHeight =3D 504

The jquery documentation also confirms that innerHeight() may be fractional=
 in some cases.
http://api.jquery.com/innerheight/#innerHeight1

Given this, perhaps it would be better to use something like:
if($(this).scrollTop() + $(this).innerHeight() > $(this)[0].scrollHeight - =
 2) {

Thanks,
Chris


From: Tools-discuss [mailto:tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ro=
bert Sparks
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:43 PM
To: tools-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] direct link to non-javascript version of mail =
archives


On 8/26/15 6:10 PM, Chris Bowers wrote:
Would it be possible to add a link from the javascript version of the mail =
archives directly to the non-JS version of the archives?
So:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Drtgwg
would have a link directly to:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg/current/maillist.html

It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to access the non-JS versio=
n of the archives, but new participants might not know there are two views.

I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 40.0.2 on Windows 7 where=
 the window will not scroll past the first 21 messages displayed in the Jav=
ascript version.
Did you file a bug on this?

If you encounter it again, try changing the size of the preview window (it =
has a handle to change it's vertical dimension) and see if that causes the =
updates to work correctly.
(That's a workaround, not a fix).

I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find the old non-JS view in o=
rder to be able to see the archive.  A direct link would be helpful.

Thanks,
Chris







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Robert,


 


I think the problem with scrolling to=
 the bottom not triggering ajax requests is in line 147 of search.js. 



 


if($(this).scrollTop() + $(this).=
innerHeight() =3D=3D $(this)[0].scrollHeight) {


 


Using Firebug, I observed that innerH=
eight() can return fractional values, so the equality will not be satisfied=
.  For example, when I put a watch on the three
 expressions in this condional, when the scrollbar is at the bottom , I get=
 



scrollTop() =3D 385=



innerHeight() =3D 119.083333


[0] scrollHeight =3D 504


 


The jquery documentation also confirm=
s that innerHeight() may be fractional in some cases.


http://api.jquery.com/innerheight/#innerHeight1<=
o:p>


 


Given this, perhaps it would be bette=
r to use something like:


if($(this).scrollTop() + $(this).=
innerHeight() > $(this)[0].scrollHeight -  2) {

 


Thanks,


Chris


 


 






From: Tools-discuss [mailto:tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of Robert Sparks

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:43 PM

To: tools-discuss@ietf.org

Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] direct link to non-javascript version o=
f mail archives






 


 




On 8/26/15 6:10 PM, Chris Bowers wrote:







Would it be possible to add a link from the javascr=
ipt version of the mail archives directly to the non-JS version of the arch=
ives?







So:







would have a link directly to:






 






It is likely that most IETF old-timers know how to =
access the non-JS version of the archives, but new participants might not k=
now there are two views.







 






I currently am experiencing an issue with Firefox 4=
0.0.2 on Windows 7 where the window will not scroll past the first 21 messa=
ges displayed in the Javascript version. 







Did you file a bug on this?



If you encounter it again, try changing the size of the preview window (it =
has a handle to change it's vertical dimension) and see if that causes the =
updates to work correctly.

(That's a workaround, not a fix).










I had to spend 15 minutes figuring out how to find =
the old non-JS view in order to be able to see the archive.  A direct =
link would be helpful.






 






Thanks,






Chris






 






 






 













 






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