From nobody Wed Mar 1 07:01:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4BC129516; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:01:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gxmnCI6PbF_W; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B494129517; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152C7E20D; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:23:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395CF6381A; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:00:57 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: iesg@ietf.org, tools-discuss X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:01:00 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG approval, and the secretariat makes an announcement. I don't know if the secretariat has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed can be created? Do we have plans to make that happen? We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be useful to keep track of them. I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always mean North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right meeting join URLs. My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite". (If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite with this virtual calendar) This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that auto-accepts all invitations. Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produce a feed of all meetings it knows about. This could be an @ietf.org alias which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAli24iAACgkQgItw+93Q 3WUCCAgAkssJ3OdxBCOBxkOC5MlrbI17NSiG4DcRVprS/jmGN8WKzHxN9f5rokZd prAAIXeJiJ8783lF7itCRZHVw90Ntyw9PJ15apah49XDqDLe7zKxJYtg7lyvEY31 GwCWBUTTJROa4auOPYcc2hiOk8OxInHycnX56lbad4BYxiOVArk/TJR/WNeEDFq1 54zhfhplBTctwKvvbrwawsLlgrg49GetQ00IEQZ6/ddzqePpCVLT1pY342u/PiEW Y35/OWyRkxRrY5C7XzoL7TXoBJunMH1wy337r4XDRN3F/ntu1UMIVOQ2e/gjBHJf UmjQOE/CBLpyMq2lQT6kgJeZOCLxvA== =7xmR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Wed Mar 1 07:33:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4F5129584; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:33:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y1l7uxqUAFyk; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x22c.google.com (mail-pf0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 186C3129580; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id j5so12115109pfb.2; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 07:33:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=70F8ug1+DHYcJcIB8FUJZSrioM0fuNBHWo8cUsSo6K0=; b=rNcakDRJxbK4B7I48LUspCdBm+/d2BpSw0noDJ1L9YmAywwVpvksF8ihRKjQ7RITLV XOWTNW1opubPxPSADSoqE/of2uqzmk29I/ENwGme5MnT86Rmluiv8T9OF1aaK5a7n6YF rrJ5eZKVGKJT8AVG3WFSxhy9aizhhqAFsvc59UUXvginZopT9s+0ZFO3tvCxVb8+V/xg tgoX0NHc9RgumlFYpHdqGozDvjkC+eEywn0hJ+wsK+6bVltR0GbiHRo4kgflG8lJbPMM jR4v3E8mINvemMY1RaBqpsFrChMTgZpm/vYHqmFwrKM9dhRZ4poDKBfGk6ePZ0e0XP1y bFKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=70F8ug1+DHYcJcIB8FUJZSrioM0fuNBHWo8cUsSo6K0=; b=P7PnopP6CS30fVAeiILEHQKozXbcCm6yvCwLtMsr2tfkzNudB3WhGTs6cYqNJR27Em cNStupDgH7XWNYw9+9OG9QYLP7vTTnMTJ7zsvJe2Slkaa5UI+wgZug4TCEaa33KQOy70 oIOrMF3jupflu7UKG5JYmW5zcXS437tARHLa5Cq/kEpcKywDKD85SXapYWExOQeobjz9 t1buQdIlUsVo0E0wgmdwYjR58hDtrFhAt1UrpgXh8RrP8U+p63vLOhAK/I+LtRtUBO7/ 2XdMuAVgnlGmoSpaTbe0rGSsZH0ZQd8JAKoMMT36JAD1aLYSaUy3pDwUlz/irawnSqb7 L0Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mPcuskv4Evs9YzaJCRRZX2T49v2Gpq0fVOPSv+dA6Vi+flUNviQdSA7F+GrrnaROW7jVPL4BdxfxVElw== X-Received: by 10.84.239.8 with SMTP id w8mr11032064plk.73.1488382395686; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 07:33:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.186.200 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:33:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> References: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> From: Kathleen Moriarty Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "iesg@ietf.org" , tools-discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:33:18 -0000 On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG approval, > and the secretariat makes an announcement. I don't know if the secretariat > has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed > can be created? Do we have plans to make that happen? > > We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be > useful to keep track of them. > > I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to > know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always mean > North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right meeting > join URLs. > > My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a > calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite". > (If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite with > this virtual calendar) > > This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that > auto-accepts all invitations. Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produce a > feed of all meetings it knows about. This could be an @ietf.org alias > which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps. This question is coming from the TEEP BoF prep call that was in the middle of the night for me at least. Pre-BoF prep calls don't have the same requirements, although Hannes has said he would provide minutes. I would also like a calendar and suggest it to my chairs to provide an ics file when they announce, but a tool to do this would be much better. Thanks, Kathleen > > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > -- Best regards, Kathleen From nobody Wed Mar 1 11:31:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED7A129682; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlxz5SLKeEme; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F03CC12967A; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.26.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v21JVNBj002126 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:31:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.26.91] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Michael Richardson , iesg@ietf.org, tools-discuss References: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:31:22 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:31:25 -0000 On 3/1/17 9:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG approval, > and the secretariat makes an announcement. I don't know if the secretariat > has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed > can be created? Do we have plans to make that happen? > > We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be > useful to keep track of them. > > I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to > know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always mean > North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right meeting > join URLs. > > My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a > calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite". > (If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite with > this virtual calendar) > > This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that > auto-accepts all invitations. Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produce a > feed of all meetings it knows about. This could be an @ietf.org alias > which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps. Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there is an ics download of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already. On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to from the menus), there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics, which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program. RjS > > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > From nobody Wed Mar 1 14:01:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF90F1294AB; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:01:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k8unS9vygCG7; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x232.google.com (mail-yw0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B241128E18; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p77so43871378ywg.1; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:01:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7g++y4Mnx/7FhH8VjbZUovHQyPQezCknsWzOxCGVyw8=; b=fLUeTfWAz8S3V10SQquniVgYAmK/HNeJL52Vr+DhZxY8hd7XsBYzXQUOlaAj3X3PE0 YsH5A7tZvUp4f+m3p51yppYi+qozGYcWqBBggY9CzdY7f1DRckLCmn2rLgSQfkudO474 4VhsgHvLOqFDVSfO9FOFK4JrWtcp37D1O1KSlJ7C/agd169b99rRASBPLkHHOMfLdYcF sI7LPR8awN3Q3vR5x2FxlgFaCddYrjIN8eDi3yHULzv7rL+3vfBXLSDLWMg8BUdnDSKc EiYneAw2vEKt9LXe3Nrjf3CNh6mdjmUnSlSnPggBt4YvnXxhvXsQqGvgnZSSeW8uAcyC oAOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7g++y4Mnx/7FhH8VjbZUovHQyPQezCknsWzOxCGVyw8=; b=FgAxgpLeZQfh/9HbM5+DsoNepLqcA1wu7ugHMrLtNNo+/wYhKWcNxNRIVRa2Y0VT8F eyprEWl2MXTiYovKgifSJAq8T0YB4Nf1UmATvDpMWTQkA1xYcnsQDlQO+NPHIajndE22 hvdozN5F0QB0C9Tzg1Ik+9FzBZ4L+2kURsY/DcRRnPT+GatKZ0F9lablQTPsxjMFn+Dm gG7IpB5B8hBdIAwJPWlueH/YEVdGy8TA1NkVxTZO5D5W5Ndz5wtAQt1CAePsVw3obOxl aJbU9uOUOirPqNN2GungKo+ZnsA6vxEchd8SEpAPkMGARKboMIzGrCKRTiBTR043c6ja nwPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nsS1weoaXU97WD5GanA7O8gsL4mW4gXrrOydLMX8WjLswly0CqXTT4ieJ9TesTjpSQn5qcBntL14GErQ== X-Received: by 10.37.201.196 with SMTP id z187mr4102854ybf.161.1488405689514; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:01:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.234.9 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.234.9 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:01:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> References: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:01:28 -0600 Message-ID: To: Robert Sparks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114d88ea680a120549b27426 Archived-At: Cc: Michael Richardson , iesg@ietf.org, Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 22:01:32 -0000 --001a114d88ea680a120549b27426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Robert, On Mar 1, 2017 13:31, "Robert Sparks" wrote: On 3/1/17 9:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG > approval, > and the secretariat makes an announcement. I don't know if the secretariat > has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed > can be created? Do we have plans to make that happen? > > We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be > useful to keep track of them. > > I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to > know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always > mean > North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right > meeting > join URLs. > > My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a > calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite". > (If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite > with > this virtual calendar) > > This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that > auto-accepts all invitations. Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produce a > feed of all meetings it knows about. This could be an @ietf.org alias > which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps. > Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there is an ics download of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already. On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to from the menus), there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics, which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program. I peeked at this, and it's 99 percent of what I would like for interim meetings (so, great, and thank you for the clue), but it gives me every session in every meeting slot for IETF 98, down to refreshment breaks. That's just under 40 entries each on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday. That might be the right answer for everyone else, but there was a separate interim meetings URL, that would be a better answer for me, the way I do calendaring. Thanks, Spencer RjS > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > > --001a114d88ea680a120549b27426 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Robert,

On Mar 1, 2017 13:31, "Robert Sparks" <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
=

On 3/1/17 9:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG approval= ,
and the secretariat makes an announcement.=C2=A0 I don't know if the se= cretariat
has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed<= br> can be created?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Do we have plans to make that happen?

We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be=
useful to keep track of them.

I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people= to
know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't alway= s mean
North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right meeti= ng
join URLs.

My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite"= ;.
(If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite = with
this virtual calendar)

This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that=
auto-accepts all invitations.=C2=A0 Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produ= ce a
feed of all meetings it knows about.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This could be an @ietf.org alia= s
which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps.
Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there = is an ics download
of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already.<= br>
On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to from the menus),
there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics,
which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program.

I peeked at this, and it's 99 percent of what I would like for inte= rim meetings (so, great, and thank you for the clue), but it gives me every= session in every meeting slot for IETF 98, down to refreshment breaks. Tha= t's just under 40 entries each on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.
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That might be the right answer= for everyone else, but there was a separate interim meetings URL, that wou= ld be a better answer for me, the way I do calendaring.

Thanks,

Spencer

=
RjS


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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
=C2=A0 -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-





--001a114d88ea680a120549b27426-- From nobody Wed Mar 1 14:13:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7F412950A; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:13:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rpigB7GYxRc2; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x234.google.com (mail-yw0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFDFD128AB0; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x234.google.com with SMTP id d1so44135195ywd.2; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:13:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sYMXBdyUY4nZCLK0Vow62J3tJwUxst0Fj/9V8EBIXZ0=; b=FBUXIveycGy02XsjBJ2RRLxRorlhd+Djnrd8lpUfHyITxWuxnE67HXcF+iZEY5FmxD o1DaKzPtwrCNhImyr+R+eeaUrTPLTCrvSfvboYbYMLEH39I5Y2sx36RSDVhX+6YknTLI B6ywIHLU4+rLSAWuQmqYiMpo5S+xiqcMQnUInXEyttC1aDAJEXYdcH4U1sv69hOROCwm p3XuJh9Aq9+pep7ogD2hjSdvl+jZ4YdF9QXver809f/ljQQEofNqXw3CnLyrPgRE/Zuv DWLOmFVsYtYFkYK1s32f+fSMjfYn4lYq799fp9ssLOCW+Smd3M+SDIRePb/3rAON97/G q1EQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sYMXBdyUY4nZCLK0Vow62J3tJwUxst0Fj/9V8EBIXZ0=; b=g0ONOTdgNPXNzajNcszOpTMkfvBVCUM7A4d3oJrm5+RdecHE9I25YAMCSw195fjLw8 HliC9P7NuxunkukYPcSvFjW2NNuajudZsv3oJgtvOzyy8CVfSblvHQBuz5yH0tCzujct ygxvsmTMC3PiZbHaOlyCbCN0VU4D+mNIzyVu3LmbtjcaiSohu39d50gdOGq4wc2JmZva 17kFskAVx7lfnsbb5snx7ZJq0/a9kq3fyPlthuGzc7ghGf9sjV7XAse0HPAMrVUwQ9na biATgHPXaUlDbRC94emXOKXD3z9blfysGxwR0OTc7kRQqonqXPASTR+A6eoWhWaqFn+r kxAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nT1nvSZtXbZsh9gBvK4Vc5Xx4pp1JuX4oiutIptgmozwDQmEzctnnjPK8YNFkTZYaA+rgzk7F7wK8hWA== X-Received: by 10.37.92.11 with SMTP id q11mr4086585ybb.198.1488406393116; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:13:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.234.9 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.234.9 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 14:13:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:13:12 -0600 Message-ID: To: Robert Sparks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114257f257df970549b29ef2 Archived-At: Cc: Michael Richardson , iesg@ietf.org, Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 22:13:15 -0000 --001a114257f257df970549b29ef2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Robert, On Mar 1, 2017 16:08, "Robert Sparks" wrote: Ouch. Yes, that needs to be improved. I've entered a ticket for it at R Thanks for that! Spencer jS On 3/1/17 4:01 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: Hi, Robert, On Mar 1, 2017 13:31, "Robert Sparks" wrote: On 3/1/17 9:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG > approval, > and the secretariat makes an announcement. I don't know if the secretariat > has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed > can be created? Do we have plans to make that happen? > > We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be > useful to keep track of them. > > I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to > know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always > mean > North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right > meeting > join URLs. > > My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a > calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite". > (If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite > with > this virtual calendar) > > This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that > auto-accepts all invitations. Ideally, the ietf.webex.com would produce a > feed of all meetings it knows about. This could be an @ietf.org alias > which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps. > Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there is an ics download of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already. On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to from the menus), there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics, which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program. I peeked at this, and it's 99 percent of what I would like for interim meetings (so, great, and thank you for the clue), but it gives me every session in every meeting slot for IETF 98, down to refreshment breaks. That's just under 40 entries each on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday. That might be the right answer for everyone else, but there was a separate interim meetings URL, that would be a better answer for me, the way I do calendaring. Thanks, Spencer RjS > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > > --001a114257f257df970549b29ef2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Robert,

On Mar 1, 2017 16:08, "Robert Sparks" <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Ouch. Yes, that needs to be improved.

I've entered a ticket for it at <http= s://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2216>R


T= hanks for that!

Spencer<= /div>

jS


On 3/1/17 4:01 PM, = Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
Hi, Robert,

On Mar 1, 2017 13:31, "Robert Sparks" <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:


On 3/1/17 9:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
When we have official (virtual) interim meetings, it requires IESG approval,
and the secretariat makes an announcement.=C2=A0 I don&= #39;t know if the secretariat
has a way to record these in the datatracker in such a way that a ics feed
can be created?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Do we have plans to make th= at happen?

We do not require approval for design team meetings, but I feel it would be
useful to keep track of them.

I don't propose to change that, but rather to make it easier for people to
know when things are, given time zones, etc. and that CST doesn't always mean
North America Central time... and to make sure everyone has the right meeting
join URLs.

My suggestion for an interim measure is for the secretariat to maintain a
calendar to which design teams and virtual interims could "invite".
(If using ietf.webex.com, you'd just always populate the who to invite with
this virtual calendar)

This could be trivially done with a google (or other) account/calendar that
auto-accepts all invitations.=C2=A0 Ideally, the ietf.webex= .com would produce a
feed of all meetings it knows about.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This = could be an @ietf.org alias
which later on goes into the datatracker perhaps.
Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there is an ics download
of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already.

On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to from the menus),
there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics<= /a>,
which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program.

I peeked at this, and it's 99 percent of what= I would like for interim meetings (so, great, and thank you for the clue), but it gives me every session in every meeting slot for IETF 98, down to refreshment breaks. That's just under 40 entries each on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.

That might be the right answer for everyone else, but there was a separate interim meetings URL, that would be a better answer for me, the way I do calendaring.

Thanks,

Spencer

RjS


--
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
=C2=A0 -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-







--001a114257f257df970549b29ef2-- From nobody Wed Mar 1 17:31:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF40A129415 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:31:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u9WWmJW-yLGd for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16793127078 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B614E20F; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 20:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8E36381A; Wed, 1 Mar 2017 20:31:44 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Robert Sparks In-Reply-To: <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> References: <425.1488380457@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <186ace85-ffa8-7c9c-a74f-724df41291db@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] interim meetings calendar X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:31:47 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain {dropping iesg@ from the list} Robert Sparks wrote: > Michael - it may not _quite_ be what you're looking for yet, but there is an > ics download > of the upcoming interim meetings that the datatracker knows about already. > On https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming (which you can navigate to > from the menus), > there's a [Download as .ics] button. It links to > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics, > which you can subscribe to using your favorite calendaring program. That's 97% of what I'm hoping for. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. 1) It would be great if we can get the next level in place as well: design team meetings, IAOC sub-cmte, and the like in. Perhaps WG-Chairs could be allowed to submit items? Could the IESG and IAB telechats be added? 2) We need times/places/URLs to be added as well. Probably others will want minutes, but we need to be a bit loose. (I think minutes should be a URL pointing at ML post...) 3) Like Spencer says, I don't think we need actual meeting ICS to be included, because we have that already. Maybe some people would like EVERYTHING, but not me. My goals here are: a) to let my computer figure out the time-zone stuff. (DONE) b) to know that the ICS entry has the latest and most accurate meeting join information. So I can just click on the right link... c) I screwed up IASA 2.0, thinking when I skipped the 11am EST session on Tuesday to do a rescheduled ANIMA DT meeting, that I could hit the second IASA session, but actually, that was the second one. Duh on me. And of course, it was also at the same time as the RTG Area Chair Chat, which got cancelled at the last minute. So being able to schedule to avoid obvious conflicts... -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAli3df8ACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVP4ggAo+yq4fhBiurYQdNVpTtajr7xujaS5P422uKb9Dc6WrLb+0y+4iEm7p4I SfWWGHK2bBHzGNFdZB+EE3heOsFZdH8VUh6Vsx+aB5FWXkUEXzqp6icDAaGAulIU PBaXfNZ+ysl8R2n0g6bX8WVSkSD55RuUFyDKqUVyVOL5dd1WnMs59dnyQ6dcPj8k nB4QHmIrkvf6GmfM04BRBfgDoWUqyhORuVsgeUHT8kg0A6Dhfvq0Y4D1tphUZek8 uVkMC72KFaeEc33MBnVUNwGYi/dpi9z2hx1EKNjQkp3noF01TzNa0JDDGUcx1jha Ft2+xwrxtRvKywLlMpIGZzsnlCSKjg== =hdJ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Fri Mar 3 09:36:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CDD1294ED for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 09:36:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30ZX0bohA7_5 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA949127735 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C38F2055E for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3F5636BB for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 12:36:35 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: tools-discuss X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc, and BCP references X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 17:36:38 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain I tried this today: but there is no such file generated that I can find. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp38 exists. Shouldn't I be able to reference BCPs (and STDs) this way? (And will the RFC-editor start hosting/providing the .xml files for the references with links into the info/XXX pages?) -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAli5qaMACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVZCAf/TESowTrDNPlB7RkKHpX8boJa1Na/nFBMFttym22PEm+B7dLhVt4UlfqD Xxa7R2pM+ey5prArZC0XjfsDyB7CJKsZFjMbgN3xqQ0WvBeLTXYKp4g2bwwQHwor JrYi+ZPXEcpGtOnwEi8IeVpx5vGQ0+l0QVRu/CUB2M1+vHWMWAJfxyds4BLxAfcN 7YcO02Fhv5WVPWa5xUezFPPFTI4txD8L3lFMBNRcueKDwLmLNBuaZMEBwWBy4P/B oy+U5uFPeWU+D/Njxf56mi9EyxK2ylmQI6Ua+8GMq/GMkWs0NuM42iYVO0zBeCix Nmrf1Rc1KdjhiMFxalBSb0IePn6JBw== =YKfd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Fri Mar 3 10:48:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A700A1294F7 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:48:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fl0P-IFEtxbv for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FCD312998D for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:48:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v23ImMsB018025; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 19:48:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vZdVZ1Bh3zDJ41; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 19:48:22 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <19529.1488562595@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 19:48:21 +0100 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 510259701.632065-d9df15e5f88ca272ea8e7e09c25e1c29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B0764D5-FDFB-4153-B797-C2D4C357A947@tzi.org> References: <19529.1488562595@obiwan.sandelman.ca> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc, and BCP references X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 18:48:32 -0000 On 3 Mar 2017, at 18:36, Michael Richardson = wrote: >=20 > Shouldn't I be able to reference BCPs (and STDs) this way? Yes. RFCXML v2 (RFC7749) didn=E2=80=99t provide a way to reference multiple = RFCs (which may be what a BCP/STD is composed of) in one go. RFCXML v3 (RFC7791) does. So I would expect the bibliography libraries = to catch up here. (It is just not clear to me who will hold the tab.) 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The top banner is also red and says Development mode. Am I alone? -m From nobody Tue Mar 7 07:44:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3223D129460 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 06:45:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3w54e_ucn-T1 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 06:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E486012962F for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 06:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:51224 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1clGJX-00045w-TV; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:42:12 -0800 To: Martin Vigoureux , Tools Team Discussion References: <010dab9d-3e89-3787-f117-fc9713315cf7@nokia.com> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58BEC6BC.9030809@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 15:42:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <010dab9d-3e89-3787-f117-fc9713315cf7@nokia.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ORgus90WjIWdp3Jj1h2Un5BNQ19bJ8fkf" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internal Server Error / Development mode X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:45:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ORgus90WjIWdp3Jj1h2Un5BNQ19bJ8fkf Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9Ci3DKqX0kqSlCvwBIlQ0B2dCElx5pLlp"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Martin Vigoureux , Tools Team Discussion Message-ID: <58BEC6BC.9030809@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Internal Server Error / Development mode References: <010dab9d-3e89-3787-f117-fc9713315cf7@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <010dab9d-3e89-3787-f117-fc9713315cf7@nokia.com> --9Ci3DKqX0kqSlCvwBIlQ0B2dCElx5pLlp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Martin, On 2017-03-07 14:36, Martin Vigoureux wrote: > Hello >=20 > This is just to inform that I get an Internal Server Error whenever I=20 > try to access any document/draft on the datatracker. The datatracker is currently being upgraded, and the upgrade involves some data conversion. I see you've run into an unintended incompatibilit= y between new database structure and running code. I've fixed a few of these while waiting for the conversion to complete, so most pages which suffered should be OK now. For the few pages which still have issues, please wait an hour or so, to permit the conversion to complete; everything should then be back to normal. And my apologies for the inconvenience :-( Best regards, Henrik >=20 > The top banner is also red and says Development mode. Different issue, which affects only some error pages, but I'll have a look at it. --9Ci3DKqX0kqSlCvwBIlQ0B2dCElx5pLlp-- --ORgus90WjIWdp3Jj1h2Un5BNQ19bJ8fkf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYvsa8AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaY6oP/i1Tvj5wZyiYeJbdLVUEKAuJ wmdcVOGpYJ+oNmK3qlx5mvG6tntZdk0AjQf9yc3WLEreIi/qHBFzCizIHzCdvr9E 8LMG7ukl6Bk54VP17zAdBPQDnRw/FF3RDGUkt9SWFmTozKrgY5DiKqsPtwCW07PV BO0+wrMYu0vSQrnYM+23VWJYTXYM5AJVtb89oHY36Mnm8LbGx9UPAb06Q6ePwr0V 2FhkoPMkXFoHyqkCFpPjQiFaB0cq+wnR3qFvcF2dTeRCGIJFwe/R8XPVv3msgMnD p7/DWr+wHzIPZ0xdvY/jGalXty/xrtEapkoMNrqKFGzVPbGo3fy0xVV5xQIl2YSx xvq1hI/TsNruPRQGE6l75Y6PhmIGVIIm9ijRV6cYUMc8P4N+fyYsJN1QgrJY6daY JHvQ/j5QTOD2H9Zc78YjfKfWmHw3JomrxcvGUYmKCSPGdiBuOLEwuuPIv0JymF9w /QBHkeeC8o50yMVQJDVNT8gZEKXMPQEgQFYv7Zh2mIksCjo8rTWmeq4v715gFZ7i bVTgBANabYL32Tdx9mYSg8E7RpbqVrwH3Ju9aGOz7P9y9f+vvP8Ig/T275L/q2cy rjFdJUJmJJ1HqmLnZX7iFvIhH/pCErQT+ldhiuB/TVIOYG0rPNUOj5TnhH4Q843K q+aKIOBtx1hBfAxe8XzD =hQLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ORgus90WjIWdp3Jj1h2Un5BNQ19bJ8fkf-- From martin.vigoureux@nokia.com Tue Mar 7 06:54:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA39129481 for ; 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No inconvenience caused. regards martin Le 07/03/2017 à 15:42, Henrik Levkowetz a écrit : > Hi Martin, > > On 2017-03-07 14:36, Martin Vigoureux wrote: >> Hello >> >> This is just to inform that I get an Internal Server Error whenever I >> try to access any document/draft on the datatracker. > > The datatracker is currently being upgraded, and the upgrade involves > some data conversion. I see you've run into an unintended incompatibility > between new database structure and running code. I've fixed a few of > these while waiting for the conversion to complete, so most pages which > suffered should be OK now. > > For the few pages which still have issues, please wait an hour or so, to > permit the conversion to complete; everything should then be back to > normal. > > And my apologies for the inconvenience :-( > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > >> >> The top banner is also red and says Development mode. > > Different issue, which affects only some error pages, but I'll have a > look at it. > > > > From nobody Wed Mar 8 06:12:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F88129472 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:12:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id skQc-pFYy3W7 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A934B129698 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10253 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2017 14:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2017 14:12:28 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id tSBf1u00C2SSUrH01SBiFo; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:11:42 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=H5NInYoi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6Iz7jQTuP9IA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=6yNaD4G2U7cy1c1ICSEA:9 a=G5vSTjbvypN7hXC7:21 a=FByzxZFcPO1-5GPA:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=upPLOZZ1hx/31xecqmcHLl07eRIV2PyaIqzVeHdRJwY=; b=kv0j/davJOlY3BFllgiY7JK+Iy lXeXNES/4TjMOzdEPK0+PgRHbB+sTOfn1iW1jwmNVRZlVK1INz++o7Qf3BK5NCS1HAfMKZOHLOv3F 8rkzroopim7ztNxGFaKxGKJKJ; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:52548 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1clcJW-0003EB-Uj for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:11:39 -0700 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <9b90a2cb-0ffa-fa63-e570-e03113ee8b13@labn.net> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:11:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1clcJW-0003EB-Uj X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:52548 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] e-mail address for reporting issues on data tracker is missing X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 14:12:32 -0000 Hi, The datatracker WG document pages (perhaps this is true for others too, but didn't check) don't have an address to report mail website issues, only a link to a new ticket. This means that when a problem is hit that some will contact the WG chair instead of going to the trouble of opening a ticket. Given that we a mail address for reporting issues (ietf-action@ietf.org, or whatever is the right one) it would be good for this to be listed at the bottom of data tracker pages to facilitate reporting and resolving issues. Thanks, Lou (With WG chair hat) PS this was prompted by [www.ietf.org/rt #161651] From nobody Wed Mar 8 06:53:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D20129416; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:53:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cCkimV0QtbII; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-3.cisco.com (aer-iport-3.cisco.com [173.38.203.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C14C4129496; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 06:53:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1960; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1488984825; x=1490194425; h=to:from:subject:cc:message-id:date:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=ljlO6YRRgRAhpaKoTvj1o8AaE2xeD//rPM1xstPBVHo=; b=M1CcMooWKGjgZsfxTmQBDP0l3fMIhHugnHjAfhrz1+CZKq5QgdeorajJ MTjbBR34FgSjXbeC5t109xxHFTZbWiLkoOudA9+0wSVsLq/07ldMRFKD1 2jaoWpPs4OGsp4f/l+IOyWTImXLojv0W/XoiugSfQ0M5SRjpL1GpzMbIm w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0B3CwBtGsBY/xbLJq1dGwEBAQMBAQEJA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBhDIDJ2CDYIoMc6QCgg+CDSqFeIJ+GAECAQEBAQEBAWsohT8VQTUCJgJfDQg?= =?us-ascii?q?BAReJZA6wJ4Imin8BAQEBAQEEAQEBAQEBIoELhUOCBYQOgwIRAYMigl8FnDaBU?= =?us-ascii?q?oUki0KBe4hUI4YuizOICx84ewgiFQgXFYcUPzUBh1cNFweCEAEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.36,264,1486425600"; d="scan'208";a="651291586" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 Mar 2017 14:53:42 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.87] (ams-bclaise-8916.cisco.com [10.60.67.87]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v28ErgJ4030467; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:53:42 GMT To: Tools Team Discussion From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <9b8a826f-9e15-727b-efd9-cc609085222e@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 15:53:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: IESG IESG Subject: [Tools-discuss] Tool request: datatracker link(s) to RFC-extracted YANG module(s) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 14:53:51 -0000 Dear all, We now have some YANG modules published in RFCs. http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGOutOfRFC.html http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGOutOfRFC.png How do we provide the YANG modules to the wider audience is the problem at stake. If you are familiar with the tooling, https://github.com/xym-tool/xym is a convenient tool to extract modules from RFCs and drafts. There is another tool, smilint. Both tools should (we tried hard) provide the exact same outcome, but the outcome might differ by some extra blank lines... which complicate validation but that's a different story. This issue: going from a YANG module => a YANG model embbeded in a txt draft with additional page breaks => extracted YANG module ==> some complications. If you are familiar with github, all YANG modules are at https://github.com/YangModels/yang/tree/master/standard/ietf/RFC See the latest pull request so that it's up to date: https://github.com/YangModels/yang/pull/121 In the end, we should observe that a YANG module (or a MIB module, or code ...) embedded in a RFC is not easily accessible to the wider audience. Sure there is CODE BEGINS/CODE ENDS as delimiters. Even those is a pain: I spent one hour this morning sending email to authors, explaining how to use them correctly. The tool request is for datatracker links to extracted piece of information. I would be happy with manual provisioning (pointing to github in my case) at this point in time. I would be happy with RFCs only at this point (we have the same issue with drafts, but one problem at a time). In parallel, we could think of a longer term solution: dissociate the YANG module, MIB module, code, etc. from the draft text ... and post both separately. This implies, no more .txt draft, I guess. I believe I read something about this in the new RFC format documents, but we would need a solution now. Feedback? Regards, Benoit From nobody Wed Mar 8 07:08:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2E31296B5 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k18YMOCkb0fl for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C03B8129401 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:59683 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cldCd-00066l-Tn; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:08:36 -0800 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <9b90a2cb-0ffa-fa63-e570-e03113ee8b13@labn.net> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58C01E6C.6040005@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 16:08:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9b90a2cb-0ffa-fa63-e570-e03113ee8b13@labn.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1m9nLI3tBRw3rlmdsAtk1cs8BMChWxG5j" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] e-mail address for reporting issues on data tracker is missing X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 15:08:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --1m9nLI3tBRw3rlmdsAtk1cs8BMChWxG5j Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0guI5pF8J6wEEpGGOAAcM0W8JF0PuWWfS"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <58C01E6C.6040005@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] e-mail address for reporting issues on data tracker is missing References: <9b90a2cb-0ffa-fa63-e570-e03113ee8b13@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <9b90a2cb-0ffa-fa63-e570-e03113ee8b13@labn.net> --0guI5pF8J6wEEpGGOAAcM0W8JF0PuWWfS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, On 2017-03-08 15:11, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, >=20 > The datatracker WG document pages (perhaps this is true for others > too, but didn't check) don't have an address to report mail website > issues, only a link to a new ticket. This means that when a problem is= > hit that some will contact the WG chair instead of going to the trouble= > of opening a ticket. Given that we a mail address for reporting issues= > (ietf-action@ietf.org, or whatever is the right one) it would be good > for this to be listed at the bottom of data tracker pages to facilitate= > reporting and resolving issues. Done, committed as [12987] https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/12987 Henrik (Also, notice the list sig) --0guI5pF8J6wEEpGGOAAcM0W8JF0PuWWfS-- --1m9nLI3tBRw3rlmdsAtk1cs8BMChWxG5j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYwB5sAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca9foQAM0viDW9tXVLMfVpBIl5iwMF lY3dmtHo+NEnGrBhQ30UvpAn+6pJD1Thp4XskyemVhBPeL5xzBdwm+UB1PkbnKOZ LpHF7FN16QOIzpyPwfh7Y3GYgPGq7/mOjItRG9/lMpI7CzJtH/f2U4VtLpndGAPo 5Pr68ZaYKttwkgLqylK7TCyDeCA3KacOWfrJpLXi0KROBzrqnH6ZIybQ5AUKEdcv fhMDsng3zBLIASgXUvge+7d4zMbO6S7cCpZeeAfkrpnXwQ61jcfqwUv2ZGOLOTBU vaoxNUhgUdMgBpGIeYgvy24OywwD+4VfOnJzmam28Zww76jqKU+wNVLStHUMfVPD XQhSEc9XEE+OgF0k2Vdoz6b8R3B540oWlP0qLCv0jDCNrQ7g76Hz1YPJiaEBHPs5 05k2O/u/dhU2gU51KaOfM24rAq0df7roxhTKd+zUA0Pg0ciLZrF2VYmMVV21aqYg 3LHhlO+siYIplFMAJ4/ijk5Nn8Zn2Q+XUldH8hwtubfQ4RbefiCU80UImEcSxUwb ha40/amht6aK+quGfgFzX1lxTG49m5SsucStXmAtOvi1mghTa7vich0Ivndz1O4m S2/XIIksCNb8P5BWXUGrY7Jgf9TxAe2sufH91dbHig8pbDFKZhl+s/CQnGNwIOCN XR8sMdK7L+1c0A53fR2W =DnZY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1m9nLI3tBRw3rlmdsAtk1cs8BMChWxG5j-- From nobody Wed Mar 8 07:19:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79D41296D6 for ; 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Thank you!!! Lou On 3/8/2017 10:08 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > On 2017-03-08 15:11, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The datatracker WG document pages (perhaps this is true for others >> too, but didn't check) don't have an address to report mail website >> issues, only a link to a new ticket. This means that when a problem is >> hit that some will contact the WG chair instead of going to the trouble >> of opening a ticket. Given that we a mail address for reporting issues >> (ietf-action@ietf.org, or whatever is the right one) it would be good >> for this to be listed at the bottom of data tracker pages to facilitate >> reporting and resolving issues. > Done, committed as [12987] > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/12987 > > > Henrik > > (Also, notice the list sig) > From nobody Fri Mar 10 13:58:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475911294F4 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:58:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.934 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.934 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21YsJqRS3bm4 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 316A8129452 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id mSXncuZ0pEyOCmSYKcECJ8; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:58:24 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id mSYJcNph24ebhmSYJcEFzc; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:58:24 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v2ALwMcg024035; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:58:22 -0500 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v2ALwMQB024032; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:58:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Benoit Claise In-Reply-To: <9b8a826f-9e15-727b-efd9-cc609085222e@cisco.com> (bclaise@cisco.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: <87poho6bgh.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIoJqpB9e3pJw8WXdCAGEuqa55pEPHrKnpkaf3DyhTb8Mt9wmLZfky1fQqJ1aDevmKZdgS2q7UrNYVhf6zf74BiJuwQTBsu967x54Sppcie2go4UBzME sdwBUkhCt9K7Q6Hpqf9aqzHbTZJggeKokxpnqg8KkzEpVFl+VP/cfiaUykzRPYE9LMzTjFWYajs1WmAeG+u2IL7lcYJCJh8toJk= Archived-At: Cc: iesg@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tool request: datatracker link(s) to RFC-extracted YANG module(s) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:58:26 -0000 Benoit Claise writes: > If you are familiar with github, all YANG modules are at > https://github.com/YangModels/yang/tree/master/standard/ietf/RFC > See the latest pull request so that it's up to date: > https://github.com/YangModels/yang/pull/121 > > In the end, we should observe that a YANG module (or a MIB module, or > code ...) embedded in a RFC is not easily accessible to the wider audience. > Sure there is CODE BEGINS/CODE ENDS as delimiters. Even those is a pain: > I spent one hour this morning sending email to authors, explaining how > to use them correctly. Perhaps better would be an IANA registry mapping RFC-number module-name module-description pointer-to-clean-copy each RFC could mention it in "IANA Considerations", and if the clean copies have to be moved, the registry could be bulk-updated by AD request or something simple. 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Worley" References: <87poho6bgh.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <5f28a089-5c43-310c-29f3-847675a8e7db@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:49:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87poho6bgh.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: iesg@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tool request: datatracker link(s) to RFC-extracted YANG module(s) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:49:15 -0000 Thanks Dale, The more I think about this issue, the more I believe that we should implement the only viable solution: dissociate the YANG module, MIB module, code, etc. from the draft text. Regards, Benoit > Benoit Claise writes: >> If you are familiar with github, all YANG modules are at >> https://github.com/YangModels/yang/tree/master/standard/ietf/RFC >> See the latest pull request so that it's up to date: >> https://github.com/YangModels/yang/pull/121 >> >> In the end, we should observe that a YANG module (or a MIB module, or >> code ...) embedded in a RFC is not easily accessible to the wider audience. >> Sure there is CODE BEGINS/CODE ENDS as delimiters. Even those is a pain: >> I spent one hour this morning sending email to authors, explaining how >> to use them correctly. > Perhaps better would be an IANA registry mapping > > RFC-number > module-name > module-description > pointer-to-clean-copy > > each RFC could mention it in "IANA Considerations", and if the clean > copies have to be moved, the registry could be bulk-updated by AD > request or something simple. > > Dale > > . > From nobody Mon Mar 13 12:35:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4F0129AC9 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XF3TSNX0ntHf for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 175AC129ADC for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:34:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2DJYlOZ028620 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:34:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vhp3W0SclzDGxp; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:34:47 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511126486.541889-09e949334cda5354787df0db2ece73e1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:34:46 +0100 Message-Id: <5B12222A-EAAF-47B1-93B4-9F8F0E827D77@tzi.org> To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Weird HTML retrieval result X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 19:35:05 -0000 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bormann-cbor-time-tag-00 for a couple of minutes yielded an empty file draft-bormann-cbor-time-tag-00.dms (Not exactly earth-shaking right now, so I=E2=80=99m sending this to = this lower-priority alias.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Mar 13 13:56:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8B129B5A for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TzN4OF5RBBNc for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49EE0129B56 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1FE30041B for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Cxbv8MCI-ICD for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 744603001A6; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <5B12222A-EAAF-47B1-93B4-9F8F0E827D77@tzi.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:30 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5B12222A-EAAF-47B1-93B4-9F8F0E827D77@tzi.org> To: Carsten Bormann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Weird HTML retrieval result X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:56:34 -0000 Works for me. The tools site needs to detect the new I-D, fetch it, convert it, and = post it. On the I-D cut-off submission day, there are many more I-Ds = being posted than usual, so the delay should not be a surprise. Russ > On Mar 13, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bormann-cbor-time-tag-00 >=20 > for a couple of minutes yielded an empty file >=20 > draft-bormann-cbor-time-tag-00.dms >=20 > (Not exactly earth-shaking right now, so I=E2=80=99m sending this to = this lower-priority alias.) >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Mar 15 00:36:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9001296A2 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:36:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b3yjm2Y_RHbA for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5B1F1296A7 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2F7a6Ku022058 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:36:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vjk1L50HJzDHZD; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:36:06 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511256165.815693-a2a554d43fea7d101ee79fc4c9309be9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:36:06 +0100 Message-Id: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] IEEE in bibxml2 vs. bibxml6 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 07:36:14 -0000 There are IEEE citation files both in bibxml2 and bibxml6. Is there a way to automatically decide with one to use? Could the bibxml2 files maybe be copied over to bibxml6 so we can always = use bibxml6 for IEEE? (kramdown-rfc currently uses bibxml2 for IEEE; there is currently no = easy way to access bibxml6. I can=E2=80=99t switch that over to = bibxml6, as the bibxml2 references are in use in existing documents, = e.g. for IEEE 754. Why are we even doing this splitting up? 90 % of = the files are in bibxml3 anyway.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Mar 15 03:09:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981F8129A99; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 03:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Go14XCwZJAog; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 03:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57E8E129A96; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 03:09:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::b]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2FA90nF029806; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:09:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vjnPm26F6zDHgC; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:09:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Carsten Bormann Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:08:59 +0100 Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511265339.76806-944250cb2dbf02b2b86a3ead0aec37f8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D21BF23-6D78-4709-92C6-AEC629FB2D7A@tzi.org> To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Visualizing individual drafts becoming working group drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:09:04 -0000 Compare the graphics in: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-somaraju-core-sid/ and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-sid/ Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be useful to make more explicit that the individual = draft lives on as a working group draft? (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-sid-00 does not show the = previous versions either.) Too much confusion for people trying to find out what=E2=80=99s going = on. 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charset=utf-8 Please make a ticket and assign it to me. I may look at this during the = codesprint. On 2017-3-15, at 11:08, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > Compare the graphics in: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-somaraju-core-sid/ >=20 > and >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-sid/ >=20 > Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be useful to make more explicit that the = individual draft lives on as a working group draft? >=20 > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-sid-00 does not show the = previous versions either.) >=20 > Too much confusion for people trying to find out what=E2=80=99s going = on. >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_7CCD500F-4AD9-4564-B3EE-45253D1815E3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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It should. Might be be caused by the relation being added afterwards, and the HTML not yet being regenerated yet. Best regards, Julian From nobody Wed Mar 15 05:30:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8F2131445; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BADgVz4rhp6h; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C6D6131444; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:58776 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1co846-0007Xt-0W; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:30:06 -0700 To: Julian Reschke , Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss References: <1D21BF23-6D78-4709-92C6-AEC629FB2D7A@tzi.org> Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58C933C6.9040801@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:29:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6nIdwHsbew8scubud95gi4A1qwXfskPQQ" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: core-chairs@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org, julian.reschke@gmx.de X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Resent-To: core-chairs@ietf.org Resent-Message-Id: <20170315123007.5C6D6131444@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: henrik@levkowetz.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Visualizing individual drafts becoming working group drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:30:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6nIdwHsbew8scubud95gi4A1qwXfskPQQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k2T0jBElvenUdoheeL6cVXkgw9MwUX5Xn"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Julian Reschke , Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org Message-ID: <58C933C6.9040801@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Visualizing individual drafts becoming working group drafts References: <1D21BF23-6D78-4709-92C6-AEC629FB2D7A@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: --k2T0jBElvenUdoheeL6cVXkgw9MwUX5Xn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-03-15 12:34, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2017-03-15 11:08, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> ... >> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-sid-00 does not show the = previous versions either.) >> ... >=20 > It should. Might be be caused by the relation being added afterwards,=20 > and the HTML not yet being regenerated yet. Yes, that was it, exactly. 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Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:34:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vk4cX09rLzDJ2j; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:34:19 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511306458.972587-ab3612a6be0e61841623190534657897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:34:19 +0100 Message-Id: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] bibxml8 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:34:24 -0000 There is no date in=20 IANA.application.samlassertion-xml which makes xml2rfc fail the parse. Also, the anchor in the file is APPLICATIONSAMLASSERTION-XML when it should be IANA.application.samlassertion-xml which would cause a parse failure if the previous problem didn=E2=80=99t. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Mar 16 20:54:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB89129BE6 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g9kAWVgD93pH for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65F9C129BCA for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.39] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v2H3s0AD094476 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:54:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.39] From: "Ben Campbell" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:54:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4BE812D1-E5DF-4F62-8A86-8B0FEEBC8B7E@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5347) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] False Positive Downrefs in LC Text X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 03:54:03 -0000 Hi, I just requested IETF Last Call for draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-22. The auto-generated LC text reported the following downrefs. They are all false positives. My best guess is the tool was confused by mention of these drafts (or non-drafts in the last cast) in the "changes since..." sections. (Note the existing LC text is hand edited.) Thanks! Ben. ------------------------ rfc7315: Private Header (P-Header) Extensions to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) for the 3GPP (Informational - IETF stream) draft-holmberg-mmusic-sdp-dtls: Using the SDP Offer/Answer Mechanism for DTLS (None - ) draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-dtls: Session Description Protocol (SDP) Indicators for Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) (None - IETF stream) From vikas.kumar1692@gmail.com Fri Mar 17 05:12:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201A0128B37 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8gtIzpHo2qUB for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2E33126C7A for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id m27so11660359iti.1 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=g08iMbL6DisJ34i6JHdOTd6R+bC8Kw0dclGVwguBwYU=; b=c4AWtWBp6PCdzARut/qjYZaxQVkGCJaP+0O0H+iNNWHC5mJ80XKWeZcO0gQFRHOIn+ /6tXswHYPK3bndxqv+EiygoLaYtYjdsDuBb40fccn/Fjcs9srd9K2vWKqPMchtDsGyMg y4fF91cAPpm7RzDEBLjtPZuBg6KNEkr8kO2HTfyhcq5vxvx+bHyRDxGSTQ846E6fKIJ1 9s0KXy9RIRRmacuL/nhbNlaTgC63rEn/6PVLCht98XnyhF+xN7SvfsZ8hcefEBmyoorl w0qaYmqeBqBIZd/UOMhkYA6znTe7ZNqqb2hKBOPQPEXX8cxsBre3/+6COoyYndtvaVDY pL/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=g08iMbL6DisJ34i6JHdOTd6R+bC8Kw0dclGVwguBwYU=; b=PqAKpSuSGD84c+ZMPXZr7jg2q/iapxegAZ2foFITXsgIRw6jwGZVSExt57Hh1t6pqF ue3RZiSiKru1qVYxGKGKWbg4tIqq5VIzFxAJVPEgDpMA97yTIiDyy/CngLTC/qLlMPaX rSTuO3nNZ7EQAfH1m6x+vV9w3RYTu7vUjfoZq6vELLeAZUHDU1DlNCd6MpQ9pk6rYJDH KZpaWxvMy2Z04It3dqT7kXR7NY55yvXMEwRPTvLZ8uKds5j3sW2eqTacFoAICps7dRAr izAx4pxIHOGGNlruuxLZ6YsG8Mc3s7CLBEMvwJShkAEmpY6rzg/U3fYtzm9A4+DpbLNR MaZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3vfMQywFQvCm9dHPSgrnCSyNr49l+CzCUcqnc2w6Y/ESZ4a4dO/FPknQRUbRfKeCcGAyg+7aed7MFJsA== X-Received: by 10.36.28.74 with SMTP id c71mr2590968itc.45.1489752756080; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.216.69 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.216.69 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: vikas kumar Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:42:35 +0530 Message-ID: To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140574ed47fd7054aec1777 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 08:17:08 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] I think your website code is having a bug ... or a security issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:50:36 -0000 --001a1140574ed47fd7054aec1777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 there is a menu on the left side Get Passwd that takes to following url https://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin downside it has a submit button if we submit this text field empty (i mean without giving any value ) it takes to following url https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr/sendlogin.pyht giving an error page but on the top of this page there are many hyperlinks ( I think they are not supposed to be there ... like code hyperlink) code hyperlink takes us to https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr/code which is showing all the coding I don't think it should be available that easily. --001a1140574ed47fd7054aec1777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a1140574ed47fd7054aec1777-- From nobody Fri Mar 17 08:20:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B1D129479 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 08:20:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rP9h_j8J2zwW for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B68612945B for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:57109 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cotgS-0004D1-UD; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 08:20:53 -0700 To: vikas kumar , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58CBFECD.1060507@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:20:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cOMh8FrC0Fivt5wqRG28oWPeMQiFewFBh" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, vikas.kumar1692@gmail.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] I think your website code is having a bug ... or a security issue X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:20:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --cOMh8FrC0Fivt5wqRG28oWPeMQiFewFBh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Xuocwid3XHGfWgPVvfg9M3kv6r5XaBQ5s"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: vikas kumar , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <58CBFECD.1060507@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] I think your website code is having a bug ... or a security issue References: In-Reply-To: --Xuocwid3XHGfWgPVvfg9M3kv6r5XaBQ5s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Vikas, On 2017-03-17 13:12, vikas kumar wrote: > there is a menu on the left side > Get Passwd > that takes to following url >=20 > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin >=20 > downside it has a submit button > if we submit this text field empty > (i mean without giving any value ) > it takes to following url >=20 > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr/sendlogin.pyht >=20 > giving an error page > but on the top of this page there are many hyperlinks ( I think they ar= e > not supposed to be there ... like code hyperlink) Actually, the code _is_ supposed to be available. If you find anything in the code which should be fixed, please let me know. Best regards, Henrik > code hyperlink takes us to >=20 > https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/loginmgr/code >=20 > which is showing all the coding >=20 > I don't think it should be available that easily. >=20 >=20 >=20 --Xuocwid3XHGfWgPVvfg9M3kv6r5XaBQ5s-- --cOMh8FrC0Fivt5wqRG28oWPeMQiFewFBh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYy/7NAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcawq0QAL7lZdGH52Bt4SofWtrICgac XANLZlLpxM9dsfqMfZUX8ESCxzBnkXXtNjh3kmklAJKPP3rX3+nPFQCyTVgn2EsH 1lbDHHLjrvrsE9KAKdZMXKwaovnaEasiA3uZW3INWbpqkJmdyYJNkIRb7yGYCaI6 MZeUwzLEoFiZ1/3S+kl4219Jub1rYxBYn77tJVbgP3ITYd9yAz2/g6RLJkfMQcHg HEhUZe08q1624ZH/kLpk8kcU6DjTWLiqwHSy5nFcHV+Lgx/wlPTOs6288m0hFSes z8iTA+4fD5OUWqBYRufuXxp5LJYvfKSqKwQrcXZ32wKVeZ4a6B3Mu+icWWy6WEt6 wihe4eSvJJz0MSgkB567BPuQJ4MJbDGuQKhKrNjsNRVJCMG5lb56UIXijCSkjUB/ VEnVTpPaThat1Zif7Ojudb6+9YmMZqIZWbflYJhaVuH2yitX9kgMjPeWmoRr/OBZ 2Ekxp9SVIZcuxjCjCCY/BbRfx31QY2xU+yb2s+Huwv3JwQ2iieTFhEK5101uZeJ/ X6ZnKOT/rsAo2+A8O+Szet4lNw0TagMr/AW7Hb93U8rbvNUdNTMZtmN7/1vHyu7a Cn7ON5nYNUPG0hx7uK6SZtF8OUP2j02anHlXkOkkOee5kH2YeYyOK2s40mVFDJgC I+5W+wyawcDlXK9KkER/ =sXFr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cOMh8FrC0Fivt5wqRG28oWPeMQiFewFBh-- From nobody Sat Mar 18 15:05:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67510127977 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:05:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHiylZ9cN9_t for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95ECF128C82 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:05:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::b]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2IM568F017423 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:05:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vlx8f6CfFzDHWG; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:05:06 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511567506.194803-6841660ced75a6cf2ae91445f58b442f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:05:06 +0100 Message-Id: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] bibxml7 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:05:14 -0000 h= ttps://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145_250= 7924.2507954.xml contains this line: which needs some XML escaping of the &. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Sat Mar 18 15:10:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F021292F4 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:10:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJw_3InOdlRm for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9251128C82 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:10:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2IMAFP7023031 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:10:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vlxGb6G6xzDHWH; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:10:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:10:15 +0100 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511567815.167989-e444ad68b2232eb1f92607311d1c1ba8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] bibxml8 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:10:20 -0000 On 15 Mar 2017, at 22:34, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > There is no date in=20 >=20 > IANA.application.samlassertion-xml >=20 > which makes xml2rfc fail the parse. (Maybe I should clarify that this is not just about SAML assertions. So far I haven=E2=80=99t found a registry in bibxml8 that actually can = be cited. But I haven=E2=80=99t searched exhaustively.) If this is meant to stay this way, I can include fixup code in = kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s include mechanism, but that will break when = somebody sets stand_alone to false and the XML entity machinery is = invoked instead. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Sat Mar 18 15:16:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F4128C82 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:16:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uhr-WbmzitXM for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D91BF126B7F for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:16:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::b]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2IMG25v026778 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:16:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p5DCCCDC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.205.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vlxPG4gwXzDHWK; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:16:02 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:16:02 +0100 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 511568161.90956-7782d37c06e4700c46d8625e4fa064df Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5A860075-3E1D-4FB2-A8F1-E9A866F122B4@tzi.org> References: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] bibxml7 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:16:08 -0000 Also, I get a 404 on = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1016_j.= adhoc.2015.04.007.xml or = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1016/j.= adhoc.2015.04.007.xml $ doilit -x=3Dfoo 10.1016/j.adhoc.2015.04.007 CoCoA+: An advanced congestion control mechanism for = CoAP Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Mar 22 01:20:14 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FA41314F8 for ; 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I have seen erratic replaced-by performance = with idnits before. Does anyone know the reason? 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[73.167.64.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b144sm1339287qkg.7.2017.03.22.09.43.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:43:44 -0400 To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Timeouts trying to download dnsext archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:44:24 -0000 I'm having trouble going way back in time on the dnsext archives. I'd = like to be able to look at the mail that was exchanged there between = about January of 2001 and December of 2002, but this doesn't seem to be = possible. It's not clear to me that what's there even goes back that = far. Is there some way to get mail from a date range like that? When = I do a search for the keyword that I am hoping to match, or for the = draft being discussed, I get nothing prior to about 2008. Is it possible to get this stuff, or is it all gone? From nobody Wed Mar 22 11:09:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73B812965A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sc3a43ON_OUU for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1955C1286AB for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A3D1E56C4; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FmmognKXt-YP; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.129.29] (96-66-253-121-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.66.253.121]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 172721E56A7; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Cross Message-Id: <53F4E9AB-8901-4811-BE43-A03653AF4E8E@amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_52F76E35-24B0-419F-8D02-327D3E560D47" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:09:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: tools-discuss To: Ted Lemon References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Timeouts trying to download dnsext archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:09:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_52F76E35-24B0-419F-8D02-327D3E560D47 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Ted, You can see the beginning of an archived list using sort by date = ascending https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Ddnsext&so=3Ddate = You can also use advanced search to specify a data range https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/advsearch/ = = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?qdr=3Dc&start_date=3D2001-01-01&= end_date=3D2002-12-31&email_list=3Ddnsext&q=3D&as=3D1 = Indeed the dnsext archive starts at 2006, which appears to be spam. The = text (source) archives, however, go back to April 2000. You can access = them via ftp here: http://ietf.org/mail-archive/text/dnsext/ = The reason they aren=E2=80=99t in the new web mail archive is because = they weren=E2=80=99t in the MHonArc web archive. When we imported = messages to the new archive back in 2014 we decided to leverage all the = work that had been done to purge spam from the archives by using MHonArc = as a filter for the new archive. In this case it is clear there are = legitimate messages in the dnsext list that can be imported to the new = archive. I will create a ticket for this. Thanks, Ryan > On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: >=20 > I'm having trouble going way back in time on the dnsext archives. = I'd like to be able to look at the mail that was exchanged there between = about January of 2001 and December of 2002, but this doesn't seem to be = possible. It's not clear to me that what's there even goes back that = far. Is there some way to get mail from a date range like that? When = I do a search for the keyword that I am hoping to match, or for the = draft being discussed, I get nothing prior to about 2008. >=20 > Is it possible to get this stuff, or is it all gone? >=20 > --=20 > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_52F76E35-24B0-419F-8D02-327D3E560D47 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hello Ted,

You can see the beginning of an archived list using sort by = date ascending
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Ddnsext&a= mp;so=3Ddate

You can also use advanced search to specify a data = range
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/advsearch/
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?qdr=3Dc&start_dat= e=3D2001-01-01&end_date=3D2002-12-31&email_list=3Ddnsext&q=3D&= amp;as=3D1

Indeed the dnsext archive starts at 2006, which appears to be = spam.  The text (source) archives, however, go back to April 2000. =  You can access them via ftp here:
http://ietf.org/mail-archive/text/dnsext/

The reason they aren=E2=80= =99t in the new web mail archive is because they weren=E2=80=99t in the = MHonArc web archive.  When we imported messages to the new archive = back in 2014 we decided to leverage all the work that had been done to = purge spam from the archives by using MHonArc as a filter for the new = archive.  In this case it is clear there are legitimate messages in = the dnsext list that can be imported to the new archive.  I will = create a ticket for this.

Thanks,
Ryan

On = Mar 22, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> = wrote:

I'm having trouble going way back in time on the dnsext = archives.   I'd like to be able to look at the mail that was = exchanged there between about January of 2001 and December of 2002, but = this doesn't seem to be possible.   It's not clear to me that = what's there even goes back that far.   Is there some way to = get mail from a date range like that?   When I do a search for = the keyword that I am hoping to match, or for the draft being discussed, = I get nothing prior to about 2008.

Is it = possible to get this stuff, or is it all gone?

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Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
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= --Apple-Mail=_52F76E35-24B0-419F-8D02-327D3E560D47-- From nobody Wed Mar 22 14:14:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0301293D6 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:14:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sVwZj0zPuJN4 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 953E01292FD for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12617 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2017 21:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2017 21:14:14 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id z9EB1u00A2SSUrH019EEGQ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:14:14 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=R4+QR7hX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6Iz7jQTuP9IA:10 a=WiVod9pSvdkA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=QF2H0--CAAAA:8 a=OjzKpcbDMKhB8Z3urowA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=qLCvuMKpmWptj0pRGMQE:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:Cc:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pf/sKvkywaEVC9bYdv7XPTY57cducxr/r/rRARclQOA=; b=0UdZPQiexy+y1IA3+wVSstnbbT MqvbnOWlaMZCBnQ4Dr6IWl0PI4aiXtyYr28LxiT2RxH4tx9e1Xjeco0G3OywS+vJ30GOrGGAlxwGh hlDcd80jza7vtwyCY66FkHl9S; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:43218 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cqna7-0006Op-0B; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:14:11 -0600 To: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Lou Berger Cc: codesprints@ietf.org Message-ID: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:14:09 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1cqna7-0006Op-0B X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:43218 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 12 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:14:27 -0000 Hi Henrik, The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles and is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. Is there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view that was/is available on the tools site? Thanks, Lou On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi, > > This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, > v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. > > Release notes: > > ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=medium > > **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** > > This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the datatracker, > using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This initial > changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmlized > document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is expected > that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the internal > document links to do so. > > Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which use the same > format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circled 'i' > information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized text. This > may also change, pending feedback from users. > > Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/13041 > > -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -0700 > > The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, with > 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.48.0' > > For development, copy the new development version instead: > 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.48.1.dev0' > > Regards, > > Henrik > (via the mkrelease script) > > From nobody Wed Mar 22 14:51:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8443129506; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:51:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kX9DKP9SGjbI; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C9DF1294F6; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:64671 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cqo9q-0003BT-P6; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:51:07 -0700 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> Cc: codesprints@ietf.org From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:50:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Wro7INKUBtTHWscPOeRV5P93qFs8Qt9HU" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: codesprints@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:51:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Wro7INKUBtTHWscPOeRV5P93qFs8Qt9HU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="uLbNDm9ihssVktDCFT04kOI13QtQgHtoa"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org Cc: codesprints@ietf.org Message-ID: <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> --uLbNDm9ihssVktDCFT04kOI13QtQgHtoa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, On 2017-03-22 22:14, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Henrik, >=20 > The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles an= d > is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. I= s > there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view > that was/is available on the tools site? Given the feedback to date, I'm seriously considering reverting the default html links to the previous ones, yes. Best regards, Henrik >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release,=20 >> v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. >> >> Release notes: >> >> ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=3Dmedium >> >> **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** >> >> This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the datat= racker, >> using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This initia= l >> changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmlize= d >> document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is expe= cted >> that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the in= ternal >> document links to do so. >> >> Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which use = the same >> format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circle= d 'i' >> information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized text.= This >> may also change, pending feedback from users. >> >> Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/= 13041 >> >> -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -070= 0 >> >> The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, wi= th >> 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.48.= 0' >> >> For development, copy the new development version instead: >> 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.48.= 1.dev0' >> >> Regards, >> >> Henrik >> (via the mkrelease script) >> >> >=20 --uLbNDm9ihssVktDCFT04kOI13QtQgHtoa-- --Wro7INKUBtTHWscPOeRV5P93qFs8Qt9HU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY0vHDAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaLCcP/0+MEgGNP2FR/RSDLyff0TCq ondyFNacXkcUaaDDpsyazbkVGDmAIt6/ElC1jDQ6KK8UH3DJrBgBTeFfTYkdk7Mr XaJaXpaptUQiT6ZZBYW8LP8Le/iplpxPCljYUTBlG8WX8f+h9yUcC6XhQJ9E2R7J Ah6GI3dkCjoN3bZ6h1rIZdx6IRLTyUtneEH6m+CHNV2DWZepK/snKrGIRkVJ14rF 67RxKSJQQaoy9lQMfpCnYckqs3Gh3NO2tS/c/GPAOd/1ubH7QTazDIrD279A+lhe k4LsveIexzKeHc3IsgdBf6kmXIQSFSLsMB+iwHvJjVgbKQ6QgUGjuCSsKJ+UM2CE doZS5OYWgKKqhtAuJ4vWSRZFCCYP9bBNdN39e/jWplCImZ8BCCMVu3GHwxzuifxx ChLXVNp7cSh6Fg3gmM8Qk4uA6U3gWgzwWWIZe9QYgQBjt+0dU1tKM7xQRZsIkQSP qEvVRvSIMaAzyvL0KjuTBj8mH4f8lZxnKPZaZrII7a5autn1+3a5+vAkLrU9jgZA /WEbjDVvv0XG9RglIA9V60sy/WVmUg5q78eH/9yqES2FUbjllzy8IeGKqKxxtSHE KUNkYTbb0RrKRyP7GZBuHOCcQOLf2mlT9dX+bfyFzGNlJE0PdUi9g/qe1sdyCNjF I9eSSq6F78TKZBIzVHSU =LSEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Wro7INKUBtTHWscPOeRV5P93qFs8Qt9HU-- From nobody Wed Mar 22 15:01:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B6F129851 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u3tt_QICQQsc for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8157D1298A3 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id w124so7009177itb.0 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:organization:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nkwjJ/wjmBFLVn0DcAUd94w0iJvEJiy9HUGYfO6zueo=; b=SWa+8Is6DNOvg4H6yLptO/wyXISCWzeWynyTCOv+P3tCgLp+5bjMP+WqdO89WXifbq TOxT7gtCKWB75OLWfizuNKf3qM/TguM9U4ZQCnp40gP5fHU8/Ro2OH/ZfcXNc6szvbtc O5ngXcyIpbIrI8iZmGWaOYt66ksUpqvtq+7iAn7KeWw+BWvO4DvFyhndJu2JbH2xJ1yp ym7Q75gSJXQr2WbZZzdqw1DAYn7FpnGFB3k9/VX1QpmJMBfhDEmqLnybXuB9Krm6V+YS NH9E27pp0V0viq7Kf1kZu8PCA6E0qFnsl3aR2N3BNaWH8iWKNlULiCq0EwJcsevJSqk0 Yp+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nkwjJ/wjmBFLVn0DcAUd94w0iJvEJiy9HUGYfO6zueo=; b=KbbgsG+omBCCOJnIS8Nbts5ekw9hLgN1xpY9lhN+xtkj3fAqpxT3cgRFSI7Il5Ffm8 fhw/G3bvlNhuuzuMqrJ9KtIWc90/QoFCPppTFhqMvH++GiM8yUAlYjo36e9/4RrDQmro zCiVYp1ODtat/dgbMvChkd2Kp+8wy0CmvgVGnx/+wOm8Xp2sA2dNIqXWhmSfqaZ1/LeP qQOszx31kzqhcepVQ3HUOvPf3UdnbYwYsV/LA1Por0/NFUxI814SGzZhoymLhYFgdcTr ojVvXlvNuMh9G74u2caVvjgp5ZIDLchEjZ51OxHi31OhOBb2tsFVaGWvlyH2cfjTK//c HNIw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H17vzkZw9Bv0aKC3ted+HT/Q8fij5pxLooGzcY592bcvQOf15iSbjHJQoTI840uOw== X-Received: by 10.36.112.212 with SMTP id f203mr10823741itc.107.1490220078802; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.11.95] (50-76-68-137-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.76.68.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 100sm1421349iot.39.2017.03.22.15.01.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Henrik Levkowetz , Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <79077467-d799-0ea2-1548-5ace759ff7b8@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:01:24 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:01:22 -0000 On 23/03/2017 10:50, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > On 2017-03-22 22:14, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles and >> is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. Is >> there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view >> that was/is available on the tools site? > > Given the feedback to date, I'm seriously considering reverting the > default html links to the previous ones, yes. Please do. The menus are pointless and the links in the old html format are valuable. Brian > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Lou >> >> >> On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, >>> v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. >>> >>> Release notes: >>> >>> ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=medium >>> >>> **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** >>> >>> This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the datatracker, >>> using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This initial >>> changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmlized >>> document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is expected >>> that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the internal >>> document links to do so. >>> >>> Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which use the same >>> format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circled 'i' >>> information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized text. This >>> may also change, pending feedback from users. >>> >>> Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/13041 >>> >>> -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -0700 >>> >>> The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, with >>> 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.48.0' >>> >>> For development, copy the new development version instead: >>> 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.48.1.dev0' >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Henrik >>> (via the mkrelease script) >>> >>> >> > > > From nobody Wed Mar 22 15:37:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE7C1273E2 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FI1i-_BIJlpl for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EABF12709D for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw2 (unknown [10.0.90.83]) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC451E0956 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:37:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id zAdb1u00l2SSUrH01AdeHY; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:37:39 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=H5NInYoi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6Iz7jQTuP9IA:10 a=WiVod9pSvdkA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=QF2H0--CAAAA:8 a=oaA8p6DqSPkLKux42wkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=qLCvuMKpmWptj0pRGMQE:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N8iJZw0z0WU+I1gvYjTKhPwuOJ2Zq58prvxsl+Q36qw=; b=g3iXKckMdjvLP4SoL5cT3Nae2Y xmCAX0WnHn/py5iiyRWDFsb/gTE5TTHQZwmfb29TxueshhiEdk1TqVDV2VFW9hnbbu6megddNlpP7 LwIl6XYm3ro6M19udCOxCpuze; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:43826 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cqosp-0001vP-Gn; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:37:35 -0600 To: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Cc: codesprints@ietf.org From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:37:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1cqosp-0001vP-Gn X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:43826 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:37:42 -0000 Thanks Henrick - why not just provided the same format? (And yes, I agree the new one reduces/eliminates the value of the html link.) Lou On 3/22/2017 5:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > On 2017-03-22 22:14, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles and >> is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. Is >> there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view >> that was/is available on the tools site? > Given the feedback to date, I'm seriously considering reverting the > default html links to the previous ones, yes. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > >> Thanks, >> >> Lou >> >> >> On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, >>> v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. >>> >>> Release notes: >>> >>> ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=medium >>> >>> **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** >>> >>> This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the datatracker, >>> using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This initial >>> changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmlized >>> document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is expected >>> that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the internal >>> document links to do so. >>> >>> Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which use the same >>> format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circled 'i' >>> information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized text. This >>> may also change, pending feedback from users. >>> >>> Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/13041 >>> >>> -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -0700 >>> >>> The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, with >>> 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.48.0' >>> >>> For development, copy the new development version instead: >>> 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.48.1.dev0' >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Henrik >>> (via the mkrelease script) >>> >>> From nobody Wed Mar 22 19:52:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9431B1299D6 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pi4-CyWHhrhQ for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x22d.google.com (mail-qt0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE462129961 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id x35so165150135qtc.2 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=EVetN7wNRYeg00n52Jj9ZJnnCsOHVnKSTmabVMfXyZs=; b=RnVejPp5U773lmdvqHlz+S4DETg1BRRquo391X10Z1/9vzKAyRSP0S4Mqqd24rjHUw vJ786rocpHvnvMy/RvDx3rb+ERmoOBjAP0JbLYKV7Dv0o49UgdaGgG2ctS58zJTlxmPO t+5MEoTx+DVvzIs5EVYTm5rzWLJyBVD5ZoSEmx9sB8+U8LhrukEviY4/u7BIREwNpJ6k zykDacMqiE7ShNRbY8NCtkvGuWxJ+VPb39/MBV9rJgB1BBv7zaT87rVwJo+inWRCC3Cu A+MMibQ2EX3yCCaLQxmbGJKrF2HMF39GU0G0AxRy+GBRLFW3tD5MUOtFPMdqDCuhsvqn 6iyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=EVetN7wNRYeg00n52Jj9ZJnnCsOHVnKSTmabVMfXyZs=; b=a2c8EOasSFRX7z/NZuIQpic/ephQQ72n0H7FPuIUwkvMFC8l97zMvMcFFkOBHfwZl3 lNM4e3NAhGKgr1sCQAlizRwph7nC9oPM68rwTk9/YAvZpm+eiIfEJPuxKi+U5K+y/BAP EFb78i1vkMVxTsxDYNbbdjpK8KBNWvvLnKAkn4oPhjMMHKhxTrUGoIud8H6NG+Jp+Fyk P/dDejPjm/LDlWRLI8bMNrrkdvBxKOVTCXm/WXWYpiGlNP/LdcmGmlfzAeo3gO2qMk+d 6NzlexK3xqAS9fzW21vtP8qBJVTZeFgn6e9DuwoSQ20R+NTiaoSaQka7bHnXxsjFvytT hh6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2dJfbdX7cbW4XwcO9ed3qTQvVYNhB8CY/UHUTdbnwumpw1POp3gLNH+3afYudCug== X-Received: by 10.200.52.246 with SMTP id x51mr178273qtb.227.1490237554892; Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.20.228] (c-73-167-64-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [73.167.64.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a19sm2357476qta.48.2017.03.22.19.52.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_92070DB7-19AB-412F-B0D9-57EE78691254" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:52:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <53F4E9AB-8901-4811-BE43-A03653AF4E8E@amsl.com> Cc: tools-discuss To: Ryan Cross References: <53F4E9AB-8901-4811-BE43-A03653AF4E8E@amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Timeouts trying to download dnsext archives. X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:52:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_92070DB7-19AB-412F-B0D9-57EE78691254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: > Indeed the dnsext archive starts at 2006, which appears to be spam. = The text (source) archives, however, go back to April 2000. You can = access them via ftp here: > http://ietf.org/mail-archive/text/dnsext/ = Oo, thanks! --Apple-Mail=_92070DB7-19AB-412F-B0D9-57EE78691254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Ryan Cross <rcross@amsl.com> = wrote:
Indeed the dnsext archive starts = at 2006, which appears to be spam.  The text (source) archives, = however, go back to April 2000.  You can access them via ftp = here:
http://ietf.org/mail-archive/text/dnsext/

Oo, thanks!

= --Apple-Mail=_92070DB7-19AB-412F-B0D9-57EE78691254-- From nobody Thu Mar 23 02:32:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9171314F0; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ChZfsL9M0lMR; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C98A129A0B; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:50002 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cqz63-0006Np-PJ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:31:56 -0700 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> Cc: codesprints@ietf.org From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58D39603.1000607@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:31:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vn0fGw7tF5c0dwx6Dou9RJ0rcJeQBhBrb" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, codesprints@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:31:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --vn0fGw7tF5c0dwx6Dou9RJ0rcJeQBhBrb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1jobmxWJrIUnbSPQA1a75A2takhQ1Uuit"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org Cc: codesprints@ietf.org Message-ID: <58D39603.1000607@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] New datatracker release: v6.48.0 References: <02fa364d-3753-3fc4-638d-5cfc2085fe03@labn.net> <58D2F1C3.9060504@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: --1jobmxWJrIUnbSPQA1a75A2takhQ1Uuit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-03-22 23:37, Lou Berger wrote: >=20 > Thanks Henrick - why not just provided the same format? If there's no change, and no integration with the datatracker, then why do any work at all? I haven't fully understood the reason for the heavy push on this change, and what's actually wanted; and as long as I don't understand what people really are after, I'm not likely to produce what's wanted. GiGo. > (And yes, I > agree the new one reduces/eliminates the value of the html link.) Not sure what you mean here. Henrik > Lou >=20 > On 3/22/2017 5:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> >> On 2017-03-22 22:14, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Hi Henrik, >>> >>> The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles = and >>> is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. = Is >>> there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view >>> that was/is available on the tools site? >> Given the feedback to date, I'm seriously considering reverting the >> default html links to the previous ones, yes. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> >>> On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release,=20 >>>> v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. >>>> >>>> Release notes: >>>> >>>> ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=3Dmedium >>>> >>>> **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** >>>> >>>> This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the dat= atracker, >>>> using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This init= ial >>>> changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmli= zed >>>> document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is ex= pected >>>> that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the = internal >>>> document links to do so. >>>> >>>> Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which us= e the same >>>> format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circ= led 'i' >>>> information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized tex= t. This >>>> may also change, pending feedback from users. >>>> >>>> Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changese= t/13041 >>>> >>>> -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -0= 700 >>>> >>>> The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, = with >>>> 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.4= 8.0' >>>> >>>> For development, copy the new development version instead: >>>> 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.4= 8.1.dev0' >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Henrik >>>> (via the mkrelease script) >>>> >>>> >=20 >=20 --1jobmxWJrIUnbSPQA1a75A2takhQ1Uuit-- --vn0fGw7tF5c0dwx6Dou9RJ0rcJeQBhBrb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY05YDAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaITgP/iVwm7ufvyE5GPQndWOHQLYd FiXUvH4ldPOwAgPqojkVCxsSOwk50mSOAk1mtdSUsYowdWSnn8GzwCgDVjIH5kxT 4ABCLxA8xeYNCn3h5mbm3jTGwiZJ7GZ0qTaL/hvwz2fRC1Kl8GaqH11DwHt8FMZS 8gnS4I7m168RVa0P2ihHx2Vr4Rz6QFsQek85wS2H54cMPhRB8cO4YZjbIJvXj6A6 7ixiyXrnPfCKYnA1TgZ0udyDnep7VkcQnU/bYn51AcXRiAuW6r5sSxgAxrtNvgUm 6vJ+OfcGvMmn9lOJZLdZKIrKeH6E2YtSXkcY19+9Me8Fn09oSrA4XZTrs7p81fKB TMnrCEtCgEGNrdHEgbRux6fGglb9bcyuWElbc5eqqD52JwJ2KKYGWZCmri5LmUij vgqFDcxcEwHkRlfmsdXmD23r2cgQsysYd99lxsx/UzxVyIyWKhjVm846ty1JEtOU QoQnntyEMpU60gFNLGiNNXvSmUENI4bkf3axlvLgjweiQSG1EiV4OLqD/cxt9g24 twM2GEsrJ5D2Y0uliDGNEyXr+Cp0EHz0zT/wGYAhLLHdcXuF6u/tARkf68vPUWYB 6Wc+pT9j+J0mk4/s5X62cFUV0QdfV2rX7m99SVEK4Wwf4GD2aZjdXSrCzn+jgSSH dR6F+2pAwycgqn60FY+G =/zMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vn0fGw7tF5c0dwx6Dou9RJ0rcJeQBhBrb-- From nobody Thu Mar 23 04:39:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A351315A1 for ; 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I haven't fully understood the reason for > the heavy push on this change, and what's actually wanted; I have no idea. > and as > long as I don't understand what people really are after, I'm not > likely to produce what's wanted. > > GiGo. > This sounds like a good discussion to have with whoever is the project manager. > >> (And yes, I >> agree the new one reduces/eliminates the value of the html link.) > > Not sure what you mean here. > I was agreeing with the other comments you referred to. Lou > Henrik > > >> Lou >> >> On 3/22/2017 5:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> On 2017-03-22 22:14, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> Hi Henrik, >>>> >>>> The new version of html docs does not render properly on mobiles and >>>> is far less useful on normal browsers due to the top and side menus. Is >>>> there any way to restore the (or add a) link to the 'full page' view >>>> that was/is available on the tools site? >>> Given the feedback to date, I'm seriously considering reverting the >>> default html links to the previous ones, yes. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/21/2017 9:03 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, >>>>> v6.48.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. >>>>> >>>>> Release notes: >>>>> >>>>> ietfdb (6.48.0) ietf; urgency=medium >>>>> >>>>> **HTMLized drafts and RFCs** >>>>> >>>>> This introduces improved htmlization of drafts and RFCs in the datatracker, >>>>> using the code originally developed for tools.ietf.org. This initial >>>>> changeset does not update all internal links to point at the htmlized >>>>> document instead of at the document meta-information tab; it is expected >>>>> that further work will change some, but certainly not all, of the internal >>>>> document links to do so. >>>>> >>>>> Document search-result lines (and lines in document lists which use the same >>>>> format) now link to the document meta-information tab using a circled 'i' >>>>> information symbol, while the text link points at the htmlized text. This >>>>> may also change, pending feedback from users. >>>>> >>>>> Here's the changeset: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/13041 >>>>> >>>>> -- Henrik Levkowetz 20 Mar 2017 08:58:26 -0700 >>>>> >>>>> The new version is available for installation through SVN checkout, with >>>>> 'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/6.48.0' >>>>> >>>>> For development, copy the new development version instead: >>>>> 'svn copy https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/dev/6.48.1.dev0' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Henrik >>>>> (via the mkrelease script) >>>>> >>>>> >> >> > From nobody Thu Mar 23 11:01:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DC81315D3 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN6PR02MB2321; H:BN6PR02MB2323.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: adobe.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 23 Mar 2017 18:01:39.2523 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: fa7b1b5a-7b34-4387-94ae-d2c178decee1 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN6PR02MB2321 Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Rfcmarkup-1.121 feedback X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 18:01:47 -0000 hi tools folks. it appears that the rfcmarkup tool is crashing when displaying RFC 7016 (of= which i am the author). i haven't found any other RFCs that it crashes on= . the crashing behavior seems to have started just in the last few weeks. i = remember reading the HTML-ized version a few weeks ago with no problem. i'= m not sure if it was cached by my browser at the time, though. here is the error page that is displayed for https://tools.ietf.org/html/rf= c7016 : =20 =20 Python 2.7.10+: /usr/local/bin/python Sun Mar 12 00:35:03 2017 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function cal= ls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. /www/tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/rfcmarkup in () 1478 usage() 1479 sys.exit() 1480=20 =3D> 1481 markup() 1482 =20 markup =3D /www/tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/rfcmarkup in markup() 1359 "\g<1>\">\g<2> \g<3= >\g<5>\g<8>\g<9>" % (script, extra, n), data) 1360 data =3D re.sub("(?i)]*>(secti= on)(\n\s+)]*>(\d+(\.\d+)*)(\.?\s+(of|in)= \s+)]*>(%s[- ]?)([0-9]+)"%n, =3D> 1361 "\g<1>\">\g<2>\g<= 3>\g<1>\">\g<4>\g<5>\g<9>\g<10>" % (script,= extra, n, script, extra, n), data) 1362 # appendix x of rfc y markup 1363 data =3D re.sub("(?i)]*>(appen= dix)\s([A-Z](\.\d+)*)(\.?\s+(of|in)\s+)]*>(%s[= - ]?)([0-9]+)"%n, script =3D '/html', extra =3D '', n =3D 'rfc', data =3D u'Internet Engineer= ing Task Force (IETF) ... Informational [Page 113]\n' /usr/lib/python2.7/re.py in sub(pattern=3D'(?i)]*>(s= ection)(\n\\s+)]*>(rfc[- ]?)([0-9]+)', repl=3Dr'\g<1>">\g<2>\g<3>\g<1>">\g<4>\g<5>\g<9>\g<10>', string=3Du'Internet Engineer= ing Task Force (IETF) ... Informational [Page 113]\n', count=3D0, flags=3D0= ) 153 a callable, it's passed the match object and must return 154 a replacement string to be used.""" =3D> 155 return _compile(pattern, flags).sub(repl, string, count) 156=20 157 def subn(pattern, repl, string, count=3D0, flags=3D0): global _compile =3D , pattern =3D '(?i)]*>(section)(\n\\s+)]*>(rfc[- ]?)(= [0-9]+)', flags =3D 0, ).sub undefined, repl =3D r'\g<1>">\g<2>\g<3>\g<1>">\g<4>\g<5>\g<9= >\g<10>', string =3D u'Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) ... Infor= mational [Page 113]\n', count =3D 0 /usr/lib/python2.7/re.py in filter(match=3D<_sre.SRE_Match object>, templa= te=3D([(1, 10), (2, 1), (4, 2), (6, 3), (8, 10), (9, 1), (11, 4), (12, 5), = (13, 9), (14, 10)], ['', None, '', None, '', None, None, None, N= one, ''])) 289 return template[1][0] 290 def filter(match, template=3Dtemplate): =3D> 291 return sre_parse.expand_template(template, match) 292 return filter 293=20 global sre_parse =3D , sre_parse.expand_template =3D , template = =3D ([(1, 10), (2, 1), (4, 2), (6, 3), (8, 10), (9, 1), (11, 4), (12, 5), (= 13, 9), (14, 10)], ['', None, '', None, '', None, None, None, No= ne, '']), match =3D <_sre.SRE_Match object> /usr/lib/python2.7/sre_parse.py in expand_template(template=3D([(1, 10), (= 2, 1), (4, 2), (6, 3), (8, 10), (9, 1), (11, 4), (12, 5), (13, 9), (14, 10)= ], ['', None, '', None, '', None, None, None, None, '']), ma= tch=3D<_sre.SRE_Match object>) 829 literals[index] =3D s =3D g(group) 830 if s is None: =3D> 831 raise error, "unmatched group" 832 except IndexError: 833 raise error, "invalid group reference" global error =3D : unmatched group=20 args =3D ('unmatched group',)=20 message =3D 'unmatched group' -michael thornburgh= From nobody Sun Mar 26 10:14:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4996129445 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.276 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sasDq0GBnfAz for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg0-x232.google.com (mail-pg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10F221200FC for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg0-x232.google.com with SMTP id 21so18020523pgg.1 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3pbgj6gTICTRjrFjwtLbTW2d2kcLtj/Me5ADSWQW9tU=; b=NqK1sZfELiRqQNpTHgRja9DtgbFDBjowhBmKsf6VK2CTZaw1KDFRGqKL6ROZYgEpcP zZ7FjMiPi1RTzjVPQfc0YtXkbZ4XAMupfWQbhNiLo7WOaOsnhmdkU8B5gznGzq9F4kjc 7kMyVqC38TtLngI64QlOGgX8dLuDE9+OzuG7YykAJgOL9gzPNTalEWc7vgJzIy6wSRA9 o8u4IxDwv4nG8XIUfeIedt2Yh5a3l+aEoofZs4/CnfhG2A0cndqz4KtrScv3md0RjHiI qCbFGTErWaP1YKCDM+GYVORYvjEZWL/iN6KhvNfbfibuCLEG7S9dyr9SypQiprLy1XGc 3JFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3pbgj6gTICTRjrFjwtLbTW2d2kcLtj/Me5ADSWQW9tU=; b=T9oMYW6PkkxaTEcm7L2AbaLXOyykYuKDdJrkkFnwPChgD5TbcGNzPwFSmVUjZKEjGc EUszPQPJOGsf4GBN4VXtAPuOiHfm69LpIMD5eZJMH5LNjEKbw4ngGMBRQf2U3WTY1syd nwI6W7on1U8fwm66fVBevJly1bR7QAP3H+KW2cHpVHHZ6Gm16rgrdTtlle5qNuoBsC1I qoCbmUd1e80WkyqHZt7M4+tfdM5PO3vCUeJO0GFCiybDWzYE9g1V60JWvZ0KMvPITemx y6dKYwG5SLCruGNwe1ks5KCPPHXCWckQEsY2MoqpNmV9901XMnuRiNo+8yey4G3wR2Ht pgYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0OqBULJCU/LgV7WXcOeq8o/euyG04sd2AlVBwLePM5j2qfmNArKyo0OeshG52KXw== X-Received: by 10.84.130.2 with SMTP id 2mr23869322plc.24.1490548473335; Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.2.136] (ip-64-134-225-117.public.wayport.net. [64.134.225.117]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w28sm9783262pge.25.2017.03.26.10.14.32 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:32 -0700 (PDT) To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" From: Yaron Sheffer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:14:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Cannot import agenda ICS file X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:14:36 -0000 Hi,

I am exporting a customized agenda as ICS from the Datatracker agenda page, then trying to import it into a calendar (Office365 web interface, Add Calendar from File). I am getting "content conversion failed". Exactly same result when I'm using the UTC Calendar tab. Any ideas?

Thanks,
    Yaron
From nobody Mon Mar 27 14:17:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924B3129690; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:17:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ngfzQJ7n9fm9; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7646312968D; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75224200A3; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9208D636E0; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: ietf@ietf.org CC: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <149064625785.30521.6221370793035045425.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <149064625785.30521.6221370793035045425.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Report out from the NomCom 2016-2017 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:17:30 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain NomCom Chair 2016 wrote: > - Check your status to volunteer for the NomCom -- > https://www.ietf.org/registration/nomcom.py -- and work with AMS to > update your records as needed -- if you qualify, check the NomCom > Volunteer box when your register Maybe these two steps could be combined, and one's nomcom eligility placed on your registration receipt... -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAljZgU8ACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVY0Af+NOibX9h5NrNckkZViuWM+zd677fa2JBHc/xaoouFBmkUedjO1FE7jekI D0zWdd6k0xVvcl05cIdw+rtje85TNPSsCVEMEnvZ41UYiOlD4V2IGiS3oL431KDC 9/ks3N9cmGkIbf3WakO2zziXH0kHZKGafDS9QEBv+97PZsu2ry6ccVKM0nnSiUsm bzj80qZBauOhPDAoGmstMVgVpwoASZH3GHXY+mPc1QPCMrY4H+nP79edHt6NQCbW mM+oJVOtb4k2+Hf0ujCJ37Y3HbD2h/KF3kEDS/QLAhsbs6gOTIk+3JflFc9yzkar v0tY+FxT6bKcGCaPqnqfiS/AmejlPg== =Ldb7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Thu Mar 30 07:39:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0073B1294DF for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.934 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.934 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wQWhN-6EWLj2 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C674F129431 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.115]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id tbECcRkcyQe9ctbEOc5rfa; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:39:20 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([24.60.114.4]) by resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id tbEMcDqHpngy3tbENcheP0; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:39:20 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v2UEdHL0029979 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:39:17 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v2UEdGnd029976; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:39:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: <87wpb6hlrf.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIBUSHfmdWVnHwypUwTQTNXldFBRrMZ3/JVyWFity4DT+nlfWZvV4LcMrDDFS9Wsz0KT1FMnfEnvd6yEKfg8OUYGOBC36RPz5NBMa7X70NLHtODoi/j2 kfCXhDISEQ8te2zq9Z4XPVsi4poRO7TmjtamuDj11dzWVokWjF6Fe23R7gpfCNjvxrwlObV5KyuOJw== Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Improvements in meeting agenda page X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:39:28 -0000 Looking at the meeting agenda page for IETF-98: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/agenda.html For each WG meeting, there is a line in the meeting agenda. At the right end of the line, there is a sequence of six(!) icons. The tooltip texts of the icons are (left to right): 1. Show meeting materials 2. Download meeting materials as .tar archive 3. Download meeting materials as PDF file 4. Etherpad for note-takers 5. Jabber logs for [WG name] 6. Meetecho session recording The first icon is not a proper link. If one clicks on it in the default manner, an overlay frame is put up containing the meeting materials. But if one tries to use an alternative click to "open link in new tab", the operation fails. My understanding is that one can construct a link that makes both of these behaviors work, and I think that would be a desirable improvement. Also, the "meeting materials" presented by clicking on the first icon are not the same as the "meeting materials" presented by clicking on the second and third icons. For example, for the TSVWG meeting late on Monday, the first icon produces the agenda and links to the slides of the presentations. However, icons 2 and 3 retrieve bundles of I-Ds. The two sets of "meeting materials" are disjoint! I think it would be a substantial improvement if all three links were to retrieve the same content (in the current formats). Or, if it would be difficult to bundle the agenda/slides with the drafts, the two groups of content should be given distinctive names. Comparing these with the "Meeting Materials" page, https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/materials: The Meeting Materials page entry for tsvwg has links to more slides files than icon 1 has, but the additional slides are probably for the second TSVWG session. The entry has a "No drafts" item, which is clearly incorrect. I think it would be an improvement if the Meeting Materials page entry listed the same bundle of I-Ds as the agenda page. (I assume that all of these groups of meeting materials are automagically generated from the same directory of files somewhere in the datatracker.) 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At least there is no HTTPS on port 9000. > > Could there be? Could etherpad move to https? > > > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ > ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > --001a114bbb3278436f054bf4b0c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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-Ekr


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 a= t 10:26 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> w= rote:

HTTPS Everywhere wants to change my etherpad connections to https, which doesn't work.=C2=A0 At least there is no HTTPS on port 9000.

Could there be? Could etherpad move to https?


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--001a114bbb3278436f054bf4b0c2-- From nobody Thu Mar 30 08:55:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4E0128990 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:55:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RbJwr3Bm9_zs for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A3431287A5 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:55:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::b]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v2UFt1Gt016731 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-9136.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-9136.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.145.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3vv8N52NK9zDH0Z; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:55:01 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:54:59 -0500 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 512582098.89973-80ddd5b0381b9c284f0964e68a2537c2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0867CEE0-CB5F-4776-8B65-9D336F02699D@tzi.org> References: <10566.1490887587@obiwan.sandelman.ca> To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting etherpad to HTTPS X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:55:08 -0000 On 30 Mar 2017, at 10:52, Eric Rescorla wrote: >=20 > port 9000 While doing this, maybe we can get rid of this eternal stumbling block = as well. 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Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Mar 30 09:56:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A121299C1 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eeeYyJfKNlHQ for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20E712985B for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t2001067c03700128bc9ca15f2c040132.v6.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:67c:370:128:bc9c:a15f:2c04:132]:51202) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ctdMc-0005Xt-Ru; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:55:59 -0700 To: Eric Rescorla , Michael Richardson References: <10566.1490887587@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Cc: tools-discuss From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58DD389D.9010205@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:55:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dV8c0rpbushjSMSWexB9Wqn6pavbKJo5D" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:67c:370:128:bc9c:a15f:2c04:132 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca, ekr@rtfm.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting etherpad to HTTPS X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:56:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dV8c0rpbushjSMSWexB9Wqn6pavbKJo5D Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6ID4xvjoEpPv5gX93dLTeFrLCSmJ3nebW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Eric Rescorla , Michael Richardson Cc: tools-discuss Message-ID: <58DD389D.9010205@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting etherpad to HTTPS References: <10566.1490887587@obiwan.sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: --6ID4xvjoEpPv5gX93dLTeFrLCSmJ3nebW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fixed. https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/ is now available, and the http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/ redirect has been changed to point at https instead of http on port 9000. If your browser remembers the previous redirection to port 9000 you'll have to flush that information or go to https:// manually. Best regards, Henrik On 2017-03-30 17:52, Eric Rescorla wrote: > +1 >=20 > -Ekr >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Michael Richardson > wrote: >=20 >> >> HTTPS Everywhere wants to change my etherpad connections to https, whi= ch >> doesn't work. At least there is no HTTPS on port 9000. >> >> Could there be? Could etherpad move to https? >> >> >> -- >> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works >> -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools= / >> ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issue= s or >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> >> >=20 >=20 >=20 --6ID4xvjoEpPv5gX93dLTeFrLCSmJ3nebW-- --dV8c0rpbushjSMSWexB9Wqn6pavbKJo5D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY3TidAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaIh4QAJEJ61X5WUXpF0ZPqH2RnM94 R+LfbC3WRkGSeFt6JgdeB15P+/KSWipoI5K3bQfrPq1SHeywq284oRdVUIVOkxI8 yygMSDadnJuieWqyjFgVLUKNv5VQXUr7NLRKUzXfm1fuSZI8GGIaPWqWPc4djMSL Qs6wTKXtnF31PqM5BENrAjIVRRm//+Q8SF56ig1/vJN+gXJCeDBTlV1ANAyeW8GO zQNJHOoTO4qutI7HsS96/Ct8AlNRpBBX8veYiDwmoIK/xlbi64AO67rb+ysvW5OY s2fKthJQqAuPa78RoDVsfJVDfFgsjCjQM2wN6upYUnVsX1uyqUSTXmZa136UdXgs JUyInYzAuikvX/mPNfrbMyyXY8UkfUv+Q7I4ZFnNVhvjJj3FAOj+prXNBZS3mMfE VutZLQ8yye7oNyihxsRe1pOm5fJnQ1H6cNox/Of7lJytrQcFTv2F8PGHWppPP3ak KQ9J69Jve2EHXZDcbCYk1PRMaQGP5qWVDd7zhSiPdl7rsjJQZADA04eTnBd94/rL V/OAyQzCaIAE7XuQe3GIfpw5Ni2kYnqKdvAtmRDp+YPqdoEFk5JqJbOMUDZmNeCm TfB0xxG3ljlcd91dZMb+QgRz/LjqdB9zlvR+RoUFU0fjql7Nyq6hXwZb18JK9s4c LvJX/dQY+Qndak5kthX2 =HdLr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dV8c0rpbushjSMSWexB9Wqn6pavbKJo5D-- From nobody Thu Mar 30 10:47:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFEB129639 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:46:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cqmrQm6Shzv4 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CF8C1299DE for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-92a9.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.146.169]:51998) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cte9v-0008PC-0b; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:46:55 -0700 To: "Dale R. Worley" , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <87wpb6hlrf.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58DD448D.5070508@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:46:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87wpb6hlrf.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dqoAmHGeuNW1meDPW9XIsmK4daihvDcUl" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 31.133.146.169 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, worley@ariadne.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Improvements in meeting agenda page X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:46:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dqoAmHGeuNW1meDPW9XIsmK4daihvDcUl Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="osCEmFKi17Cg4lj5oFLbpKoj6Bt86NcA7"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Dale R. Worley" , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <58DD448D.5070508@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Improvements in meeting agenda page References: <87wpb6hlrf.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <87wpb6hlrf.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> --osCEmFKi17Cg4lj5oFLbpKoj6Bt86NcA7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dale, Points taken, and ack on it being possible to improve things. However: On 2017-03-30 16:39, Dale R. Worley wrote: > I think it would be an improvement if the Meeting Materials page entry > listed the same bundle of I-Ds as the agenda page. (I assume that all > of these groups of meeting materials are automagically generated from > the same directory of files somewhere in the datatracker.) And this assumption doesn't actually hold. A year or two ago we only had= the list of drafts extracted by regex from the agenda. This list is reflected in the drafts packaged in the tarball and pdf package. More recently we added the ability for chairs to add links between a draft and= a meeting session, which not only lets us show the lists of drafts on the= materials page, but also show the sessions on which a draft is on the age= nda (see for instance the 'On Agenda' entry of draft-ietf-codec-ambisonics on= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-ambisonics/). However, this draft-to-session information is only present in the databas= e if the chairs add the information to the datatracker. Having taken the step of introducing associations between draft objects and session objects in the database, one possible next step is to auto- populate these from agendas. Some feedback from chairs would be apprecia= ted on whether doing that would be good, but anything that can reduce the discrepancy between the various sets of drafts associated with a session would (I think) be an improvement. We try to release early, release often, but that will occasionally show gaps between new features constructed in one way (database links between drafts and sessions) and earlier features constructed a different way (tarball built from names extracted from the agenda text). So I'll not apologise for the gaps -- they are inevitable. We'll try to continue to fill them and improve things, though :-) Best regards, Henrik --osCEmFKi17Cg4lj5oFLbpKoj6Bt86NcA7-- --dqoAmHGeuNW1meDPW9XIsmK4daihvDcUl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJY3USNAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcapEQP/27pOaOs3kQU8OHyMuuHqwxp nZKdRDKWdL6aiTaFd2SFY1IGJSSux/wj7M/HntzS8J42ey/IoHMcwCKpMiQ682C7 3yH1BcL8i0dTMhL/KFAEY1Jx5/xtXCPpiKYd9kwiJ+ftZHs4uTbbUcFcN6C546Y4 VLRuV05GB4hVVGOUunF2cg6QaYcoIuVxxxrapygAwfZgUAzSshIc2vOWVkJHV23r 64VbRZNaYaWCODseR1WNwznrvdH9cTaIESMxIX2YaOA5HRQUzNnV9799QmUb7YEM rSuSTG9LP51ZnISY1AoMj9390z8O4ksUZKiQDP8s3sKqav1m9rrQn0+UheI/MBhv LabE6y+OEloUWLQ7y7h94Ie8P740KCSYOIjzJTEAtJlTFr26EcoejxKnOhgwM24O GaCP2C7qGj9E/HNwCjwKCCvDLBsO22eSZ9JNeR6sLThDzO3LgNaiMKMUaDVNXn3i ypVvKRpU0YOKno6Tn02gsmnEN06Nwd1gUsRnUvarWOcekpjM2cZ5VrQ5P2S7m/hT m2y1SogSuK64Ptv1sn/Y5S21IP7ap2pTdkrNHzCWyOgrcbrL/Sf0a/wuSc28ZKK2 5hzcp6jJiZEbbKXxckQuTFltBjjo600A1KGelEOX7dg5ZzzYf8VLap+qwIAE5mrf eWwOXbrIUWl2alSm9IRs =yNdn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dqoAmHGeuNW1meDPW9XIsmK4daihvDcUl-- From nobody Thu Mar 30 10:57:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B311712952F for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id miG5VmSxpW8M for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C3C126557 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AA4200A3; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA080636BB; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:57:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Henrik Levkowetz cc: Eric Rescorla , tools-discuss In-Reply-To: <58DD389D.9010205@levkowetz.com> References: <10566.1490887587@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <58DD389D.9010205@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] getting etherpad to HTTPS X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:57:23 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain WOOHOO. Thank you so much. Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Fixed. https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/ is now available, and the > http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/ redirect has been changed to point at > https instead of http on port 9000. If your browser remembers the > previous redirection to port 9000 you'll have to flush that information > or go to https:// manually. > Best regards, > Henrik > On 2017-03-30 17:52, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> +1 >> >> -Ekr >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Michael Richardson >> wrote: >> >>> >>> HTTPS Everywhere wants to change my etherpad connections to https, which >>> doesn't work. At least there is no HTTPS on port 9000. >>> >>> Could there be? Could etherpad move to https? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works >>> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ >>> ietfdb >>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or >>> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAljdRv8ACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVvXQf+Lo+EaEmP9lf6ypNmCWCK0FKTOYGm7FojPRFN13hi/QXzkQqaHgQfP0Fk qSX/hJzR+4PDoX11e92oUy+vpDqA7NDxzfIvloVyLzMULug6Ezeplc4UT30NJ1fK Lcyn5GEe0qmP7nlWv8JCcflMz9tRBYhu2I9fOKo4Zz9JL7M2gAJh1LPqUUzm0n/4 ruZsDjCcxsfTX47vipduMKMhs79xA0q1vaApNBtP3LhNu3HAUkp8uKLw0XvA2Ohr sO0E9XuDmGBwkHUPpxF3uBJN7dUC+SDm8uHuGgVxagR/IzEioldGDK2d2V+V2KKE 08szB0YX/oOsozV0T7dX/LrNZVUFbQ== =RZbD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Thu Mar 30 20:44:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC4C12762F for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CYzf62ED0C02 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x234.google.com (mail-it0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2BB41200F1 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x234.google.com with SMTP id y18so5620033itc.1 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5YUlmb0QLTF1X8LoQCkbkIs/SqtK2Y6gSzs/L/EpNeo=; b=jrfVuoHnWHM5gfb6MumeyNxtAduqW1Crcd2X9xSQfJWPfjki4ONmG3kbetnRcWZMVf Xaq9E0XFmoL197RB17Z401ItYd7CMfaiLWaUYxw70Q9qkUlz8KrG5uvcMnFsIoLyn827 ZbCMtrezCYYIN9RLm0Dt8q1xzhEzFbITd0sLCcbtCVJI6+FtHvZuVOZQHp6/6kV2E/Fr A6VmWMVSMvlCI10Nneb2VXmp6ToMik2xL4FMy3OY8JyxERZi4X3V/LxELp3I67HtmgUz gxuokwLnT+egLAlHa45RSK2SAH8oE49N3CguTD3mDkeyNzCUV/22T4EB8iYnNlM69k6X mVlw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5YUlmb0QLTF1X8LoQCkbkIs/SqtK2Y6gSzs/L/EpNeo=; b=CWqYWCCB2Apdsel+S2lkHaTooz/WD5tzmteGDnrAdrqnRbL/Kf912OdHR8pF4a8AUK iauiZJKCzDaDHTdIkP2ZJPo1zwsZUz9iAgZI5FyF3KibcEwzf2HsfvWjClyJH9quRJyo mXoWmLYPlHl/xDrfrSdVIbfqhhXjNvrr/syzwUqQK/QXy79A6Z1qqru7+dRt31Ha038T WTVJq0Ya1b0/KJU3MAuCRfBEzGpVtt7rr1wmuvseB+MNasoTJfbaPD8gsbTlIIRrQJ7N E1sGvllZZL6hFKH/7tplvfwC2CfYpS1rVEavz7uflsbwu0KTbHuc6vBXkVAotvn7gi6r ErZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1AvGuoKY0jg4I//rGSHKYgBZQwPGJIEHbZ6s6uafzY4EjkOW9FcSHmiPDnSN3lMQ== X-Received: by 10.36.172.65 with SMTP id m1mr1790150iti.33.1490931890100; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twicinski-ltm1.internal.salesforce.com ([66.71.229.5]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l129sm2645917ite.1.2017.03.30.20.44.48 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:44:49 -0700 (PDT) To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Tim Wicinski Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:44:48 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] IPR not following adopted documents correctly? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 03:44:53 -0000 Question, Why does the IPR show up on our document in the datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format But not the HTML version: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-01 From nobody Fri Mar 31 07:29:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069C8127A90 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 07:29:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lYcCfMy_GbFU for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13DA31296B7 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 07:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA90200A3; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6B3636BB; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Tim Wicinski cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IPR not following adopted documents correctly? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 14:29:20 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Tim Wicinski wrote: > Why does the IPR show up on our document in the datatracker: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format Because the above part is driven by a database system, while: > But not the HTML version: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-01 This part is just a web site containing an archive of html renderings of the IDs. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAljeZ7wACgkQgItw+93Q 3WUFTwf+N4g7Ah5+9HoVo7/9N0B3hzmhu24mPmZXCDFT0UKFLZVZnc1NIfQ/QTj+ NuNEhg3nwV9zJjzpjYb+oHk6jJe8Q2+8Emv8ZjHvNfKkuYYaSwK1d//GfWgZQ9Nj q7gsXcrDGTxpcBGVxaMbHpdwXDWKzhSt3ujsVxThe1pU5KtlbPcM/wJCcOZNvXja agrrPxl69tRw3Jcwe03bTzQG0DcDOiQ64jZH0qj1z20AYi1sw2FAPt100W6JEPgv E7Gp9JpvEkKf+j5EPCSkklEIwCrsOHBeJoUMurS8FwI4VonABGx+rl+nUuEoPoXo 5NS/Nyykyv4t1QX7+PqIvDK/d8Y7+g== =pSaq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Fri Mar 31 08:31:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A574126DED for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QMSG8EZMwDn4 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DEA912706D for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.100]) by resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id tyWPcQmXU61D9tyWTczUUs; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:31:33 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id tyWScwh6xFcZ2tyWSc3zUX; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:31:33 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v2VFVVeL031468; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:31:31 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v2VFVVm9031465; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:31:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Henrik Levkowetz Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <58DD448D.5070508@levkowetz.com> (henrik@levkowetz.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:31:31 -0400 Message-ID: <87zig1ea3w.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAmbzeQFwmXGhWy1dLfyaKITgxHoR8BvCD1ApQbRZYIi3sPxk7FA6byHv16k3VG22eL3V/gvvSlywqVAjIIgSI+VDhE4llA7Wd7hFRR7IrGtrpRdZwQl CbPMiz+klTnTQaRQipPaswwCRGVm6FVuVfP0X0aLqSNVu3v5vLdQaPkKRuYaLoqlOFrrWdXeu3NjL/ateRFAdl/6BjnXnufizOM= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Improvements in meeting agenda page X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:31:35 -0000 Henrik Levkowetz writes: > And this assumption doesn't actually hold. [...] > However, this draft-to-session information is only present in the database > if the chairs add the information to the datatracker. My approach would be to get the chairs to enter clean data. Even to the point of giving them a directory into which to put what they want to show up in the agenda et al. There's no hope for software to Do The Right Thing unless it's got good input data. Then again, I haven't had to convince chairs to enter this data in a timely manner... Thanks for considering this, Dale From nobody Fri Mar 31 10:25:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB961296F3 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:25:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cnJEfraDhRZS for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 051E0129644 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t2001067c0370012861eaa733b591f1c3.v6.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:67c:370:128:61ea:a733:b591:f1c3]:57176) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cu0J5-0003s3-FC; Fri, 31 Mar 2017 10:25:51 -0700 To: Tim Wicinski , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <58DE911E.2060707@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:25:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UP85PeV2wVTfwOfeh06uptonnAtUaOnlM" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:67c:370:128:61ea:a733:b591:f1c3 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, tjw.ietf@gmail.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IPR not following adopted documents correctly? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:25:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UP85PeV2wVTfwOfeh06uptonnAtUaOnlM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="I2U1nophrONAwV3rnrLFsTo0ukq52r5Qk"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Tim Wicinski , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <58DE911E.2060707@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IPR not following adopted documents correctly? References: In-Reply-To: --I2U1nophrONAwV3rnrLFsTo0ukq52r5Qk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim, On 2017-03-31 05:44, Tim Wicinski wrote: >=20 > Question, >=20 >=20 > Why does the IPR show up on our document in the datatracker: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-form= at >=20 > But not the HTML version: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-01 As far as I recall, the tools version was written before the IPR search started looking at IPR declarations on drafts replaced by the current dra= ft. Since the IPR was declared against draft-dickinson-dnsop-dns-capture-form= at, not against draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format, the tools version misses= this. I should probably have fixed that, but my attention has been very much on datatracker work, rather than tools.ietf.org enhancements the las= t few years. I'll see what I can do. 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