From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Mon Apr 03 09:55:05 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQPWL-0004Vi-KO; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:55:05 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQPWK-0004Ui-Da for tools-team@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:55:04 -0400 Received: from smtp110.iad.emailsrvr.com ([207.97.245.110] helo=smtp130.iad.emailsrvr.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQPWJ-0003ff-Rl for tools-team@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:55:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.5] (69-170-29-227.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.170.29.227]) (Authenticated sender: rpelletier@isoc.org) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7CBE744DDE2; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44312984.5020408@isoc.org> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:56:20 -0400 From: Ray Pelletier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team , Ray Pelletier X-Virus-Scanned: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2f0065339d489fe5a2873ea9ad776d1a Cc: Subject: [Tools-team] 24 Hour Project? X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1618258414==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1618258414== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090706030706000006050208" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090706030706000006050208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All; A list of Tools Development projects has been developed from a variety of sources, including tickets, ADs, WGs, etc. The following projects are a subset of that list and are identified as enhancements taking up to 80 programming hours based on an estimate by Michael Lee. My question is: Do any of these projects lend themselves to a 24 Hour Tool Project, that is, a tool that could be developed in 24 hours or less (literally 1 day or less) by a group of volunteers positioned around the globe? Please indicate in 24 Hr Tool column, a Y or N. A Y1 indicates you feel that particular project would be a good one to experiment with the 24 Hour Tool concept. Thanks Ray 24 HR Tool? Description LOE (hours) A On the search result page of I-D search of IDDI, add a link to the charter page of responsible WG. 2 Enhanc B Jabber addresses in IESG address book 3 Enhanc C Update the IETF Non-WG Mailing List Posting Tool so that a user can remove a mailing list from the page. 4 Enhanc D Add BCC field to the Message Scheduler Tool 4 Enhanc E Format the title and abstract of I-D announcements so that each line does not exceed 72 characters. 4 Enhanc F Automate updates to links to current and previous Proceedings pages on the WG Chairs Web page. 4 Enhanc G Add scheduled time to "Meeting Materials" page 6 Enhanc H Populate "To Subscribe" field of Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page. 8 Enhanc I Notify submitter of an original IPR disclosure that someone other than himself has submitted an update. 8 Enhanc J Automate "Reply-to" fields in "Announcement Tool" for messages from IETF Secretariat, IESG Secretary, and Internet-Drafts. 8 Enhanc K Automating Updates to the IESG and IESG-Only Mailing Lists 12 Enhanc L Updates to Liaison Statement tool to strip control characters from messages generated by the tool, and break lines longer than 70 characters. 12 Enhanc M Create a script to remove any main mailing lists of active WGs from the Non-WG Mailing List Web page. 12 Enhanc N Replace embedded text and html minutes in proceedings with links to text and html minutes, as submitted. 12 Enhanc O Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to notify the staff whenever new or updated materials are submitted. 12 Enhanc P Revise IPR Disclosure Submission Tool to discourage submission of bogus updates to IPR disclosures. 16 Enhanc Q If the RFC Editor requests that the Secretariat not allow an I-D to expire, then send an automated message to the RFC Editor on the document's normal expiration date reminding her to let us know when the document is no longer under review. 16 Enhanc R Add a message to the "Frequent Message Sender" so that staff can send a confirmation message after an Implementation Report has been posted. 16 Enhanc S Update auto-response messages on IPR Submission Tool. (AD Notification) 18 Enhanc T Provide an interface within the iTelechat tool to allow posting of the narrative telechat minutes on the IETF Web site. 24 Enhanc U Create a new handler so that all "Note Well" Web pages can be generated from one source (database). Generate a "Note Well" file for Mailman (For Scott). 24 Enhanc V Automate AG chairs update in IETF Dev based on IESG membership. 24 Enhanc X Access-count statistics for important web pages at ietf.org, such as the IESG Minutes. 24 Enhanc Y Enhance the I-D Validator - More specific error messages and completed with the current guidelines 32 Enhanc Z Automate the removal of a mailing list from the IETF Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page when a request is received via the IETF Email List Request Tool to close the mailing list. 32 Enhanc AA Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to allow posting of minutes and presentation slides for Interim Meetings. 32 Enhanc AB Implement a comment log on IETF Dev so that all actions can be logged. 32 Enhanc AC Fix 1id-abstractx.txt to put "et al." when there are more than three authors. 40 Enhanc AD New Search feature of IPR tool - Patent Search 40 Enhanc AE Enhanced I-D search within IDDI - Search within Subject and Text. 48 Enhanc AF Automate processing of Cisco IPR disclosures. 54 Enhanc AG Once an I-D has been added to the I-D Tracker, allow it to move back to state "I-D Exists" without losing its tracker history. #81607 merged into this ticket. 54 Enhanc AH Tool in support of 3rd party reviews and IETF Last Call comments. 80 Enhanc AI IETF Website re-organization (The "look & feel" design should be provided by the Tools team.) 80 Enhanc --------------090706030706000006050208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All;

A list of Tools Development projects has been developed from a variety of sources, including tickets, ADs, WGs, etc.  The following projects are a subset of that list and are  identified as enhancements taking up to 80 programming hours based on an estimate by Michael Lee.

My question is:  Do any of these projects lend themselves to a 24 Hour Tool Project, that is, a tool that could be developed in 24 hours or less (literally 1 day or less) by a group of volunteers positioned around the globe?  Please indicate in 24 Hr Tool column, a Y or N.  A Y1 indicates you feel that particular project would be a good one to experiment with the 24 Hour Tool concept.

Thanks

Ray


 24 HR Tool? Description LOE (hours)
A   On the search result page of I-D search of IDDI, add a link to the
charter page of responsible WG.		 2 Enhanc
B   Jabber addresses in IESG address book 3 Enhanc
C
Update the IETF Non-WG Mailing List Posting Tool so that a user can remove a mailing list from the page. 4 Enhanc
D   Add BCC field to the Message Scheduler Tool 4 Enhanc
E   Format the title and abstract of I-D announcements so that each line does not exceed 72 characters. 4 Enhanc
F   Automate updates to links to current and previous Proceedings pages on the WG Chairs Web page. 4 Enhanc
G   Add scheduled time to "Meeting Materials" page 6 Enhanc
H   Populate "To Subscribe" field of Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page. 8 Enhanc
I   Notify submitter of an original IPR disclosure that someone other than himself has submitted an update. 8 Enhanc
J   Automate “Reply-to” fields in “Announcement Tool” for messages from IETF Secretariat, IESG Secretary, and Internet-Drafts. 8 Enhanc
K   Automating Updates to the IESG and IESG-Only Mailing Lists 12 Enhanc
L   Updates to Liaison Statement tool to strip control characters from messages generated by the tool, and break lines longer than 70 characters. 12 Enhanc
M   Create a script to remove any main mailing lists of active WGs from the Non-WG Mailing List Web page. 12 Enhanc
N   Replace embedded text and html minutes in proceedings with links to text and html minutes, as submitted. 12 Enhanc
O
Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to notify the staff whenever new or updated materials are submitted. 12 Enhanc
P   Revise IPR Disclosure Submission Tool to discourage submission of bogus updates to IPR disclosures. 16 Enhanc
Q   If the RFC Editor requests that the Secretariat not allow an I-D to expire, then send an automated message to the RFC Editor on the document’s normal expiration date reminding her to let us know when the document is no longer under review. 16 Enhanc
R
Add a message to the “Frequent Message Sender” so that staff can send a confirmation message after an Implementation Report has been posted. 16 Enhanc
S   Update auto-response messages on IPR Submission Tool. (AD Notification) 18 Enhanc
T
Provide an interface within the iTelechat tool to allow posting of the narrative telechat minutes on the IETF Web site. 24 Enhanc
U   Create a new handler so that all “Note Well” Web pages can be generated from one source (database).  Generate a “Note Well” file for Mailman (For Scott). 24 Enhanc
V   Automate AG chairs update in IETF Dev based on IESG membership. 24 Enhanc
X   Access-count statistics for important web pages at ietf.org,
such as the IESG Minutes.		 24 Enhanc
Y
Enhance the I-D Validator - More specific error messages and completed with the current guidelines 32 Enhanc
Z   Automate the removal of a mailing list from the IETF Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page when a request is received via the IETF Email List Request Tool to close the mailing list. 32 Enhanc
AA
Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to allow posting of minutes and presentation slides for Interim Meetings. 32 Enhanc
AB   Implement a comment log on IETF Dev so that all actions can be logged. 32 Enhanc
AC   Fix 1id-abstractx.txt to put "et al." when there are more than three authors. 40 Enhanc
AD   New Search feature of IPR tool - Patent Search 40 Enhanc
AE   Enhanced I-D search within IDDI – Search within Subject and Text. 48 Enhanc
AF
Automate processing of Cisco IPR disclosures. 54 Enhanc
AG   Once an I-D has been added to the I-D Tracker, allow it to move back to state “I-D Exists” without losing its tracker history. #81607 merged into this ticket. 54 Enhanc
AH
Tool in support of 3rd party reviews and IETF Last Call comments. 80 Enhanc
AI    IETF Website re-organization (The "look & feel" design should be provided by the Tools team.) 80 Enhanc

--------------090706030706000006050208-- --===============1618258414== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============1618258414==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 04 17:52:22 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQtRl-0007AS-Sg; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:52:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQtRk-00079r-Ue for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:52:20 -0400 Received: from smtp110.iad.emailsrvr.com ([207.97.245.110] helo=smtp130.iad.emailsrvr.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQtRk-0002eN-7H for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:52:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.5] (69-170-29-227.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.170.29.227]) (Authenticated sender: rpelletier@isoc.org) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9AC6144DE6C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 17:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4432EAE4.1090506@isoc.org> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:53:40 -0400 From: Ray Pelletier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier Subject: Re: [Tools-team] 24 Hour Project? References: <44312984.5020408@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <44312984.5020408@isoc.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060904060105090506090702" X-Virus-Scanned: OK X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e535e8fdae689580ce57283401d548ee Cc: Tools Team X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060904060105090506090702 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070904050603070501010801" --------------070904050603070501010801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, let's try a pdf. Ray Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > A list of Tools Development projects has been developed from a variety > of sources, including tickets, ADs, WGs, etc. The following projects > are a subset of that list and are identified as enhancements taking > up to 80 programming hours based on an estimate by Michael Lee. > > My question is: Do any of these projects lend themselves to a 24 Hour > Tool Project, that is, a tool that could be developed in 24 hours or > less (literally 1 day or less) by a group of volunteers positioned > around the globe? Please indicate in 24 Hr Tool column, a Y or N. A > Y1 indicates you feel that particular project would be a good one to > experiment with the 24 Hour Tool concept. > > Thanks > > Ray > > > 24 HR Tool? Description LOE (hours) > A On the search result page of I-D search of IDDI, add a link to the > charter page of responsible WG. 2 Enhanc > B Jabber addresses in IESG address book 3 Enhanc > C > Update the IETF Non-WG Mailing List Posting Tool so that a user can > remove a mailing list from the page. 4 Enhanc > D Add BCC field to the Message Scheduler Tool 4 Enhanc > E Format the title and abstract of I-D announcements so that each > line does not exceed 72 characters. 4 Enhanc > F Automate updates to links to current and previous Proceedings > pages on the WG Chairs Web page. 4 Enhanc > G Add scheduled time to "Meeting Materials" page 6 Enhanc > H Populate "To Subscribe" field of Non-WG Mailing Lists Web > page. 8 Enhanc > I Notify submitter of an original IPR disclosure that someone > other than himself has submitted an update. 8 Enhanc > J Automate "Reply-to" fields in "Announcement Tool" for messages > from IETF Secretariat, IESG Secretary, and Internet-Drafts. 8 Enhanc > K Automating Updates to the IESG and IESG-Only Mailing Lists 12 > Enhanc > L Updates to Liaison Statement tool to strip control characters > from messages generated by the tool, and break lines longer than 70 > characters. 12 Enhanc > M Create a script to remove any main mailing lists of active WGs > from the Non-WG Mailing List Web page. 12 Enhanc > N Replace embedded text and html minutes in proceedings with links > to text and html minutes, as submitted. 12 Enhanc > O > Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to notify the staff > whenever new or updated materials are submitted. 12 Enhanc > P Revise IPR Disclosure Submission Tool to discourage submission > of bogus updates to IPR disclosures. 16 Enhanc > Q If the RFC Editor requests that the Secretariat not allow an I-D > to expire, then send an automated message to the RFC Editor on the > document's normal expiration date reminding her to let us know when > the document is no longer under review. 16 Enhanc > R > Add a message to the "Frequent Message Sender" so that staff can send > a confirmation message after an Implementation Report has been > posted. 16 Enhanc > S Update auto-response messages on IPR Submission Tool. (AD > Notification) 18 Enhanc > T > Provide an interface within the iTelechat tool to allow posting of > the narrative telechat minutes on the IETF Web site. 24 Enhanc > U Create a new handler so that all "Note Well" Web pages can be > generated from one source (database). Generate a "Note Well" file for > Mailman (For Scott). 24 Enhanc > V Automate AG chairs update in IETF Dev based on IESG > membership. 24 Enhanc > X Access-count statistics for important web pages at ietf.org, > such as the IESG Minutes. 24 Enhanc > Y > Enhance the I-D Validator - More specific error messages and > completed with the current guidelines 32 Enhanc > Z Automate the removal of a mailing list from the IETF Non-WG > Mailing Lists Web page when a request is received via the IETF Email > List Request Tool to close the mailing list. 32 Enhanc > AA > Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to allow posting of > minutes and presentation slides for Interim Meetings. 32 Enhanc > AB Implement a comment log on IETF Dev so that all actions can be > logged. 32 Enhanc > AC Fix 1id-abstractx.txt to put "et al." when there are more than > three authors. 40 Enhanc > AD New Search feature of IPR tool - Patent Search 40 Enhanc > AE Enhanced I-D search within IDDI - Search within Subject and > Text. 48 Enhanc > AF > Automate processing of Cisco IPR disclosures. 54 Enhanc > AG Once an I-D has been added to the I-D Tracker, allow it to move > back to state "I-D Exists" without losing its tracker history. #81607 > merged into this ticket. 54 Enhanc > AH > Tool in support of 3rd party reviews and IETF Last Call comments. > 80 Enhanc > AI IETF Website re-organization (The "look & feel" design should > be provided by the Tools team.) 80 Enhanc > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Tools-team mailing list >Tools-team@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team > > --------------070904050603070501010801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, let's try a pdf.
Ray

Ray Pelletier wrote:
All;

A list of Tools Development projects has been developed from a variety of sources, including tickets, ADs, WGs, etc.  The following projects are a subset of that list and are  identified as enhancements taking up to 80 programming hours based on an estimate by Michael Lee.

My question is:  Do any of these projects lend themselves to a 24 Hour Tool Project, that is, a tool that could be developed in 24 hours or less (literally 1 day or less) by a group of volunteers positioned around the globe?  Please indicate in 24 Hr Tool column, a Y or N.  A Y1 indicates you feel that particular project would be a good one to experiment with the 24 Hour Tool concept.

Thanks

Ray


 24 HR Tool? Description LOE (hours)
A   On the search result page of I-D search of IDDI, add a link to the
charter page of responsible WG.		 2 Enhanc
B   Jabber addresses in IESG address book 3 Enhanc
C
Update the IETF Non-WG Mailing List Posting Tool so that a user can remove a mailing list from the page. 4 Enhanc
D   Add BCC field to the Message Scheduler Tool 4 Enhanc
E   Format the title and abstract of I-D announcements so that each line does not exceed 72 characters. 4 Enhanc
F   Automate updates to links to current and previous Proceedings pages on the WG Chairs Web page. 4 Enhanc
G   Add scheduled time to "Meeting Materials" page 6 Enhanc
H   Populate "To Subscribe" field of Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page. 8 Enhanc
I   Notify submitter of an original IPR disclosure that someone other than himself has submitted an update. 8 Enhanc
J   Automate “Reply-to” fields in “Announcement Tool” for messages from IETF Secretariat, IESG Secretary, and Internet-Drafts. 8 Enhanc
K   Automating Updates to the IESG and IESG-Only Mailing Lists 12 Enhanc
L   Updates to Liaison Statement tool to strip control characters from messages generated by the tool, and break lines longer than 70 characters. 12 Enhanc
M   Create a script to remove any main mailing lists of active WGs from the Non-WG Mailing List Web page. 12 Enhanc
N   Replace embedded text and html minutes in proceedings with links to text and html minutes, as submitted. 12 Enhanc
O
Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to notify the staff whenever new or updated materials are submitted. 12 Enhanc
P   Revise IPR Disclosure Submission Tool to discourage submission of bogus updates to IPR disclosures. 16 Enhanc
Q   If the RFC Editor requests that the Secretariat not allow an I-D to expire, then send an automated message to the RFC Editor on the document’s normal expiration date reminding her to let us know when the document is no longer under review. 16 Enhanc
R
Add a message to the “Frequent Message Sender” so that staff can send a confirmation message after an Implementation Report has been posted. 16 Enhanc
S   Update auto-response messages on IPR Submission Tool. (AD Notification) 18 Enhanc
T
Provide an interface within the iTelechat tool to allow posting of the narrative telechat minutes on the IETF Web site. 24 Enhanc
U   Create a new handler so that all “Note Well” Web pages can be generated from one source (database).  Generate a “Note Well” file for Mailman (For Scott). 24 Enhanc
V   Automate AG chairs update in IETF Dev based on IESG membership. 24 Enhanc
X   Access-count statistics for important web pages at ietf.org,
such as the IESG Minutes.		 24 Enhanc
Y
Enhance the I-D Validator - More specific error messages and completed with the current guidelines 32 Enhanc
Z   Automate the removal of a mailing list from the IETF Non-WG Mailing Lists Web page when a request is received via the IETF Email List Request Tool to close the mailing list. 32 Enhanc
AA
Update the Meeting Material Management Tool to allow posting of minutes and presentation slides for Interim Meetings. 32 Enhanc
AB   Implement a comment log on IETF Dev so that all actions can be logged. 32 Enhanc
AC   Fix 1id-abstractx.txt to put "et al." when there are more than three authors. 40 Enhanc
AD   New Search feature of IPR tool - Patent Search 40 Enhanc
AE   Enhanced I-D search within IDDI – Search within Subject and Text. 48 Enhanc
AF
Automate processing of Cisco IPR disclosures. 54 Enhanc
AG   Once an I-D has been added to the I-D Tracker, allow it to move back to state “I-D Exists” without losing its tracker history. #81607 merged into this ticket. 54 Enhanc
AH
Tool in support of 3rd party reviews and IETF Last Call comments. 80 Enhanc
AI    IETF Website re-organization (The "look & feel" design should be provided by the Tools team.) 80 Enhanc 


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_______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --------------060904060105090506090702-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 05 10:46:29 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR9HB-00035x-4s; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:46:29 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR9HA-00035n-EU for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.60]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FR9H8-0001KT-Qq for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 434D54E7; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:46:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.173]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:46:25 +0200 Received: from [147.214.237.61] ([147.214.237.61]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:46:25 +0200 Message-ID: <4433D841.3030709@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:46:25 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2006 14:46:25.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6BC2820:01C658BF] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 82c9bddb247d9ba4471160a9a865a5f3 Cc: Tero Kivinen Subject: [Tools-team] Agenda for the 5 April 2006 Teleconference X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Hi, We will have a call today, at the same time as usual, local time. If I'm not mistaken, both Europe and the U.S. have gone over to summer time by now, so it's one hour earlier by GMT: 16:00. Calculate your own offsets :-) Here is the proposed agenda. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Agenda bashing and comments on previous minutes 2. Status review * Dashboard - Henrik * Issue trackers, Wiki - Henrik * Review team support tool - Tero? * Draft info draft - Alex * Meta-information schema - Stas 3. Any other business 4. Next meeting: Teleconference Wednesday 19 April, 16:00 GMT (same local time as today). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Connection details: To join the call, dial +1-734-615-7474 and enter PIN 0151989. 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Go to https://edial.internet2.edu/call/0151989 and type in the URL to your phone, and follow the directions. _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 05 13:50:14 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRC90-0000GT-69; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:50:14 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRC8y-0000GJ-Ko for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:50:12 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRB77-0007MF-GF for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:44:13 -0400 Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.183]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRAuy-0003d3-UD for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:31:43 -0400 Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B18D5387F5; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827E0387F1 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-224-201-50-no45.tbcn.telia.com [81.224.201.50]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED5E37E49 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FRAuw-0007B0-T0 for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:31:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4433F0EA.1030502@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:31:38 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-team X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Subject: [Tools-team] Minutes from the 5 April 2006 Teleconference X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Here are the minutes from today's teleconference. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 0. Present: Henrik 1. Agenda bashing and comments on previous minutes None 2. Status review * Dashboard - Henrik: No progress. I'm going to handle individual items on my plate to completion one by one, and will start with the item which steals most manual handling lately, wiki and issue-tracker setup and password handling. General password hanling for the tools servers should be in place before next meeting. * Issue trackers, Wiki - Henrik: Approaching the point where general deployment is possible. Main thing to fix is password handling. After deployment there will be some additional work to handle WG chair changes -> trac admin change. * Review team support tool - Tero? Nothing so far, just got home from a solar eclipse trip! :-) * Draft info draft - Alex: No progress, had to do emergency office move. * Bill's ad-hoc tools: - A small ad-hoc tracker update, to use the foo-chairs@tools.ietf.org mailing addresses - A small tool to build agendas for the IESG teleconferences [ Small discussion of Zope, TAL, TurboGears and separation of html-generation, code and database queries ] * Meta-information schema - Stas is travelling, no update. 3. Any other business New draft on tracker addition for chairs' access upcoming - will be sent to proto and tools team lists within a day or so. No more comments on the 24 hour projects yet - send comments. Anybody using SIP phone for this conference? No, not currently. Well, Bill's phone may be using SIP under the hood, to go to POTS and connect to the POTS phone number for this conference, but that doesn't quite count. Henrik used to have one, and is considering setting up a soft sip-phone on the laptop, or maybe an 802.11 sip- phone - but that requires a sip-server installation on the server. Hmm... 4. Next meeting: Teleconference Wednesday 19 April, 16:00 GMT (same local time as today). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Connection details: To join the call, dial +1-734-615-7474 and enter PIN 0151989. One can also join the call by dialling: sip:session_0151989@edial.internet2.edu on a SIP-enabled voice communications client. If the SIP client cannot dial URLs, you can have the conference system call you if you have the sip URL for your phone. Go to https://edial.internet2.edu/call/0151989 and type in the URL to your phone, and follow the directions. _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 19 10:02:24 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWDGC-0005HQ-Q7; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:02:24 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWDGB-0005H3-H6 for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:02:23 -0400 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.60]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWDG8-0004qz-Vh for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:02:23 -0400 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id C8A574F0023 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.176]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:38:29 +0200 Received: from [147.214.237.61] ([147.214.237.61]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:38:29 +0200 Message-ID: <44463D55.8070502@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:38:29 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2006 13:38:29.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AD413B0:01C663B6] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 Subject: [Tools-team] Agenda for the 19 April 2006 Teleconference X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Here is the proposed agenda. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Agenda bashing and comments on previous minutes 2. Status review * Dashboard - Henrik * Issue trackers, Wiki - Henrik * Review team support tool - Tero * Draft info draft - Alex * Meta-information schema - Stas 3. Any other business 4. Next meeting: Teleconference Wednesday 3rd of May, 16:00 GMT (same local time as today). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Connection details: To join the call, dial +1-734-615-7474 and enter PIN 0151989. One can also join the call by dialling: sip:session_0151989@edial.internet2.edu on a SIP-enabled voice communications client. If the SIP client cannot dial URLs, you can have the conference system call you if you have the sip URL for your phone. Go to https://edial.internet2.edu/call/0151989 and type in the URL to your phone, and follow the directions. _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 19 12:50:49 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFtB-0006iV-9C; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFt9-0006iQ-Ra for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWFt8-00043o-1N for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:47 -0400 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 368594F0001 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.173]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:50:43 +0200 Received: from [147.214.237.61] ([147.214.237.61]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:50:42 +0200 Message-ID: <44466A62.4070705@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:50:42 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2006 16:50:42.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[654EDE20:01C663D1] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2beba50d0fcdeee5f091c59f204d4365 Subject: [Tools-team] Minutes from the 19 April 2006 Teleconference X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Here are the minutes from today's meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 0. Present: Henrik, Tero, Stas Regrets: Alex 1. Agenda bashing and comments on previous minutes Nothing 2. Status review * Dashboard - Henrik No progress * Issue trackers, Wiki - Henrik * Review team support tool - Tero Have something which will pull information from the Missing information from the all_id.txt file is the date of last change - it would be good if we could get that information. Henrik: one possibility would be the database dumps we are getting - we could use that to reconstruct the database if needed, or extract the information needed directly from the dump. Stas: do you know what the format of the database is? - it would be nice if we could get instant notifications rather than once a day updates... Henrik: nope, sorry Tero: But this wouldn't make a big difference for the review support tool. Henrik: Check out the data base dumps on shiraz under /home/ietf/dump/ - they're in csv format. Tero: Hope to have something that we can start to use in 2 weeks or so. * Draft info draft - Alex No progress. * Meta-information schema - Stas Bad news: Was distracted by an invitation to participate in Google's summer of code, so have made no progress on my task... Good news: Since we will have a few students and infra- structure, it might be an idea to post a few possible projects and see if any of the students would apply... 3. Any other business: Google Summer of Code proposal: Don't know about the quality of work, but last year it was quite high, and we got quite a bit accomplished. Best would be if we could present the students with a sufficiently closed project - not completely open-ended, and sufficiently well-described deliverables. We could either let Internet2 be the mentoring organization, or could make Tools-Team the mentoring organization. For the first, the advantage is that it's already in place, for the second case is that it requires Google to say 'yes'. Last year, out of 10 people we had 2 failures, and one was not because of lack of time of the mentor. But we need mentor time. Tero: Not too many projects, as we may not have enough mentors.... Stas: Last year the relationship was closer to a research advisor, rather than very hands-on -- they are supposed to be good enough to work on their own. And it was sufficiently successful. Potential mentors: * Henrik - 1 or 2 students. Not Stas (except for maybe general notes going out to all students at Internet2) Probably not Tero - not available during all of the summer. ? Anybody else? Action: Define a few projects which would be both beneficial and interesting, send out of list. 4. Next meeting: Teleconference Wednesday 3rd of May, 16:00 GMT (same local time as today). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Connection details: To join the call, dial +1-734-615-7474 and enter PIN 0151989. One can also join the call by dialling: sip:session_0151989@edial.internet2.edu on a SIP-enabled voice communications client. If the SIP client cannot dial URLs, you can have the conference system call you if you have the sip URL for your phone. Go to https://edial.internet2.edu/call/0151989 and type in the URL to your phone, and follow the directions. _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 19 13:11:16 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGCy-0002bN-PD; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:16 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGCy-0002bH-4L for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:16 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGCw-000533-Sd for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C9647D35; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18868-03; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B07647CAC; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-team] Minutes from the 19 April 2006 Teleconference References: <44466A62.4070705@levkowetz.com> From: stanislav shalunov Date: 19 Apr 2006 13:11:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44466A62.4070705@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: <86bquxv6bx.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: Tools-team X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > We could either let Internet2 be the mentoring organization, > or could make Tools-Team the mentoring organization. For > the first, the advantage is that it's already in place, > for the second case is that it requires Google to say 'yes'. We could put a project description through Internet2 and sponsor a student this way. If we have the ability to mentor many students through people not on the call today, it would make sense to apply for the IETF or the Tools team to be a mentoring organization on its own right. I expect that it would be easier to get a positive answer if we get permission to apply on behalf and in the recognizable name of the IETF rather than as a more obscure and smaller entity. I'm not sure when is the deadline to apply, but it seems to be no later than May 1. -- Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ This message is designed to be viewed with 0.06479891g of NaCl. _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 19 13:19:03 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGKV-00064O-Pu; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:19:03 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGKG-00061G-6t for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:18:48 -0400 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWGKF-0005Na-IM for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:18:48 -0400 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 023C8E30; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.170]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:18:46 +0200 Received: from [147.214.237.61] ([147.214.237.61]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:18:46 +0200 Message-ID: <444670F6.7060806@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:18:46 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools-team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2006 17:18:46.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[50F168E0:01C663D5] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Cc: Ray Pelletier , 'Brian E Carpenter' Subject: [Tools-team] Google summer of code - tools team participation? X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org During the tools team call today, Stas had an interesting suggestion: Get the tools work to benefit from the Google 'Summer of Code' with one or a few projects. (Ref: http://code.google.com/soc/) There would be two possible ways to do this: A. Apply for the IETF tools team to be a mentoring organization, and provide a few projects (as many as we can provide mentors for), or B. Submit a project to Internet2, which is already a mentoring organization, and provide mentoring under Internet2's umbrella. Alternative A has the advantage of being able to run more than a single project (Internet2, having only a fixed number of projects to run, don't want to have them *all* doing tools-team work) -- but also has the drawback that we need to apply and be approved as a mentoring organization, and need to provide more mentors. Alternative B has the benefit that we won't have the added overhead of applying to be a mentoring organization, and we'll have one round of 'Summer of Code' to learn the ropes, at a limited investment in mentoring. In either case, we need the following (and please, if you have input on either of these, reply now - we need to act fairly fast on this). 0. Agreement that its a good idea to participate with one or more projects in the Summer of Code. (Henrik thinks yes.) Brian? Ray? 1. Good project ideas. Please submit ideas. The students have 3 months to work on the projects (between May 23 and Aug. 21) including startup time. Once we agree on project(s), note that they need to be written up and submitted, either via Internet2 or as part of a mentoring organization application. Deadline: May 1st, 17:00 PDT. (I thought one idea could be the notification tool. It seems to have an appropriate size and can be judged well on success or failure, I think.) 2. Mentors. Please indicate if you would be willing to act as a mentor for a tools-team project under the Google Summer of Code. (Henrik is up for mentoring 1 student. Other?) 3. If sufficient interest (responses to 1. and 2. above): Handling the application for Mentoring Organization status, and handling the administrative contacts with Google under the program. Thoughts, comments? Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 20 01:41:20 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWRuo-0004Yn-SF; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWRun-0004Yi-RD for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:17 -0400 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWRum-0000Ir-KG for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5366647E04; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06399-05; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B79C47E02; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:41:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-team] Google summer of code - tools team participation? References: <444670F6.7060806@levkowetz.com> From: stanislav shalunov Date: 20 Apr 2006 01:41:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <444670F6.7060806@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: <86k69kby84.fsf@abel.internet2.edu> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Cc: Ray Pelletier , 'Brian E Carpenter' , Tools-team X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org I wanted to point out that the time is very short. The application period for student proposals opens May 1. There's a rush of student browsing in the beginning, so missing the opening date might mean that we miss many (most?) students' attention. -- Stanislav Shalunov http://www.internet2.edu/~shalunov/ .signature: I/O Error _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 20 04:12:53 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWUHR-0005Wu-Ke; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:12:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWUHQ-0005Wp-8Y for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:12:48 -0400 Received: from mtagate1.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.150]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWUHP-00086f-P8 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:12:48 -0400 Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate1.de.ibm.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3K8Ck9c144826 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:12:46 GMT Received: from d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.212]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k3K8DkZI114120 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:13:46 +0200 Received: from d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3K8CjDe015020 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:12:45 +0200 Received: from sihl.zurich.ibm.com (sihl.zurich.ibm.com [9.4.16.232]) by d12av01.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3K8CjEn015008; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:12:45 +0200 Received: from zurich.ibm.com (sig-9-146-221-20.de.ibm.com [9.146.221.20]) by sihl.zurich.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA40644; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:12:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4447427C.4010205@zurich.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:12:44 +0200 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: IBM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <444670F6.7060806@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <444670F6.7060806@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6cca30437e2d04f45110f2ff8dc1b1d5 Cc: Ray Pelletier , Tools-team Subject: [Tools-team] Re: Google summer of code - tools team participation? X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > During the tools team call today, Stas had an interesting suggestion: > > Get the tools work to benefit from the Google 'Summer of Code' > with one or a few projects. (Ref: http://code.google.com/soc/) > > There would be two possible ways to do this: > > A. Apply for the IETF tools team to be a mentoring organization, > and provide a few projects (as many as we can provide mentors > for), or > > B. Submit a project to Internet2, which is already a mentoring > organization, and provide mentoring under Internet2's umbrella. > > > Alternative A has the advantage of being able to run more than a > single project (Internet2, having only a fixed number of projects > to run, don't want to have them *all* doing tools-team work) -- > but also has the drawback that we need to apply and be approved as > a mentoring organization, and need to provide more mentors. > > Alternative B has the benefit that we won't have the added overhead > of applying to be a mentoring organization, and we'll have one round > of 'Summer of Code' to learn the ropes, at a limited investment in > mentoring. > > In either case, we need the following (and please, if you have > input on either of these, reply now - we need to act fairly fast > on this). > > 0. Agreement that its a good idea to participate with one or more > projects in the Summer of Code. (Henrik thinks yes.) > > Brian? Ray? Very honest reply: I don't have time to look into it enough to have an opinion. From what you say, I'd go the Internet2 route because otherwise I suspect you'd experience overhead. FWIW Internet2 and Google are both ISOC organizational members. So take this as a No Objection ballot. > > 1. Good project ideas. Please submit ideas. The students have > 3 months to work on the projects (between May 23 and Aug. 21) > including startup time. Once we agree on project(s), note that > they need to be written up and submitted, either via Internet2 > or as part of a mentoring organization application. Deadline: > May 1st, 17:00 PDT. > > (I thought one idea could be the notification tool. > It seems to have an appropriate size and can be judged well > on success or failure, I think.) > > 2. Mentors. Please indicate if you would be willing to act as a > mentor for a tools-team project under the Google Summer of Code. > > (Henrik is up for mentoring 1 student. Other?) Sorry, absolutely no cycles. Brian > > > 3. If sufficient interest (responses to 1. and 2. above): > Handling the application for Mentoring Organization status, > and handling the administrative contacts with Google under > the program. > > > Thoughts, comments? > > > Henrik > > > _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team