From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 12 10:21:30 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0faj-0005vx-W7; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:21:30 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0faj-0005vs-BJ for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:21:29 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0fag-0007Zn-Qz for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:21:29 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6CELPNC011644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:21:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6CELPGV018180; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:21:25 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:21:24 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 6 min X-Total-Time: 6 min X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Subject: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org I made new tool that will allow chasing references on the RFCs. I.e. it will tell that if we want to move RFC4301 from proposed standard to draft standard and we want to update all standard track documents having normative reference from RFC4301 (or from those other references RFCs) that are proposed standard to draft standard too, we need to update 60 other documents too.... This does not take into account those documents which didn't have normative / informational references split.... The url is http://ietf-tools-test.kivinen.iki.fi:2080/perl/noauth/showrefs There is 2 perl-scripts there, one that could be run from the cron weekly or so that will read rfc-index.xml and all RFCs and parse them and find all references, and put them to mysql database. The another one is the perl-script doing the user interface for the www, and it is using the database created by the first program (so it is very fast). Test those and tell what you think about. If we want to put it up to the tools.ietf.org it would be better to do it now here in the IETF so I can help setting it up there (makeing sure the configuration of mysql / apache etc is ok, and making necessary tables to database etc). -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 12 18:47:51 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nUl-00033P-I8; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:51 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nUl-00033K-1g for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:51 -0400 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nUj-0001Ip-RS for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:51 -0400 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9264865B; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10/Submit) id k6CMlmDv006973; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:48 -0400 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: kivinen@iki.fi Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:47:48 -0400 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Tero, I have a lot of dependencies data at http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/deps/index.cgi (including I-Ds). It does do the downref check for I-Ds that have the right intended state in the tracker, but the idea of asking the question about a document and *supplyiing* the intended state is a good one. Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 12 19:06:51 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nn9-0005QP-Dd; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:06:51 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nn8-0005Py-BA for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:06:50 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0nn6-0003ZK-QN for tools-team@ietf.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:06:50 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6CN6kGs006498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:06:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6CN6klW026206; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:06:46 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:06:46 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org In-Reply-To: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 4 min X-Total-Time: 5 min X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Bill Fenner writes: > I have a lot of dependencies data at > http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/ietf/deps/index.cgi > (including I-Ds). It does do the downref check for > I-Ds that have the right intended state in the tracker, > but the idea of asking the question about a document > and *supplyiing* the intended state is a good one. I remember that I had seen something like that earlier, but couldn't find it from the http://tools.ietf.org/inventory/all-tools (closest one was the Draft Dependency Vizualisation)... What kind of method did you use to find normative vs non-normative references? I used very ad-hoc method tryign to find "normative references" vs "informative references" either in the beginning of the line or number followed those terms. That works mostly, but there are some problematic documents. -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 07:46:31 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0zeJ-0004th-Tr; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0zeI-0004tc-Du for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:30 -0400 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G0zeG-0008Fm-6t for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:30 -0400 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD315147A79; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10/Submit) id k6DBkO1n029464; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:24 -0400 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: kivinen@iki.fi Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:46:24 -0400 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org >I remember that I had seen something like that earlier, but couldn't >find it from the http://tools.ietf.org/inventory/all-tools (closest >one was the Draft Dependency Vizualisation)... Same database, different interface. >What kind of method did you use to find normative vs non-normative >references? I used very ad-hoc method tryign to find "normative >references" vs "informative references" either in the beginning of the >line or number followed those terms. I did similar - if (/^\s*(Appendix\s+)?(([A-Z]\.)?[0-9.]*\s+)?((\S+)\s+)?references:?\s*$/i) { $type = $5 || "Reference"; } elsif (/^\s*(([A-Z]\.)?[0-9.]*\s+)?(\S+ormative)\s*$/i) { $type = $3; } elsif (/^\s*References \((\S+ormative)\)\s*$/i) { $type = $1; } Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 09:31:01 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G11HR-0000uB-7S; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:31:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G11HQ-0000u1-4l for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:31:00 -0400 Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.182]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G11HO-000422-RT for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:31:00 -0400 Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9C9A2387A3; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B92A386D6; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B527B37E4C; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G11HN-0005xG-2L; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:30:57 +0200 Message-ID: <44B64B0F.20505@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:30:55 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tero Kivinen Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1382637771==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1382637771== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2F6128C6B476F184397380E1" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2F6128C6B476F184397380E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tero, on 2006-07-12 10:21 Tero Kivinen said the following: =2E.. > Test those and tell what you think about. If we want to put it up to > the tools.ietf.org it would be better to do it now here in the IETF so > I can help setting it up there (makeing sure the configuration of > mysql / apache etc is ok, and making necessary tables to database > etc).=20 Right. What about sitting down 16:30 in 520 and fixing this? Henrik --------------enig2F6128C6B476F184397380E1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD4DBQFEtksPeVhrtTJkXCMRAgY0AKCQERfz0t9kB0SlWpNQspaeBi5BQgCY3uyR cjtSOLVKMb5QdNgmp6J4NQ== =wC8v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2F6128C6B476F184397380E1-- --===============1382637771== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============1382637771==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 10:26:59 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G129b-0002ht-Eh; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:26:59 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G129a-0002ho-Qs for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:26:58 -0400 Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.182]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G129Z-0006Pq-HP for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:26:58 -0400 Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BDAC938177; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF4E37EF5; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7DB37E46; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G129T-0002pr-67; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:26:56 +0200 Message-ID: <44B65829.3050402@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:26:49 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tero Kivinen Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <44B64B0F.20505@levkowetz.com> <17590.19405.58931.705936@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <17590.19405.58931.705936@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1999275317==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1999275317== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE2B70FE3331E5E27C421E04C" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE2B70FE3331E5E27C421E04C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tero, > I have meeting with the Sam Weiler and Mary Barnes at that time about > the review team tools. We start 16:15 at the terminal room, don't know > how long it will take.=20 Ok. If you complete that before the plenary at 17:00, look for me in 520.= That's the room for the plenary, so if you're going to the plenary you'll= have to come there anyway. Regards, Henrik --------------enigE2B70FE3331E5E27C421E04C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFEtlgpeVhrtTJkXCMRAmOaAKDk9xWUWbg4Hfn5mLGCiGwOyXLmrwCgu2xH UCJlCCHpoYFQtdhWFLcQh18= =RYCx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE2B70FE3331E5E27C421E04C-- --===============1999275317== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============1999275317==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 15:42:37 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G1753-0003t3-Rj; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:42:37 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G1752-0003sk-29 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:42:36 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G174z-000334-IF for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:42:36 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6DJgVQu026422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:42:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6DJgUaC029590; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:42:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17590.41510.930105.85095@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:42:30 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org In-Reply-To: <44B65829.3050402@levkowetz.com> References: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <44B64B0F.20505@levkowetz.com> <17590.19405.58931.705936@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <44B65829.3050402@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 3 min X-Total-Time: 3 min X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Ok. If you complete that before the plenary at 17:00, look for me in 520. Ok, I tried to look you from there just now, just in case, but couldn't find you so I assume you are in some meeting. I am now in the terminal room, and I will try to look you up immediately after we get the review tool review done. Hmm... Should we create jabber room for tools-team (my jabber account is kivinen@jabber.org)? -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 15:51:27 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G17Db-0005th-LJ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:51:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G17Da-0005tc-Ki for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:51:26 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G17DZ-00040B-1T for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:51:26 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6DJpOAw027418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6DJpNvc029608; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:23 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17590.42043.766486.882016@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:23 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org In-Reply-To: <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 9 min X-Total-Time: 8 min X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Bill Fenner writes: > >I remember that I had seen something like that earlier, but couldn't > >find it from the http://tools.ietf.org/inventory/all-tools (closest > >one was the Draft Dependency Vizualisation)... > Same database, different interface. Guessed so. > >What kind of method did you use to find normative vs non-normative > >references? I used very ad-hoc method tryign to find "normative > >references" vs "informative references" either in the beginning of the > >line or number followed those terms. > > I did similar - > > if (/^\s*(Appendix\s+)?(([A-Z]\.)?[0-9.]*\s+)?((\S+)\s+)?references:?\s*$/i) { > $type = $5 || "Reference"; > } elsif (/^\s*(([A-Z]\.)?[0-9.]*\s+)?(\S+ormative)\s*$/i) { > $type = $3; > } elsif (/^\s*References \((\S+ormative)\)\s*$/i) { > $type = $1; > } Hmm... bit different but about same. I noticed that this generates quite often normative and informative references to the rfc itself, as if there is page break inside the reference list it will have rfc xxxx in it. I assume you also search for (BCP|FYI|STD|RFC)\s*(\d+) regexp for references. Hmmm.. you do not seem to map BCP/STD/FYI numbers to actual RFC numbers. I did that so I can do the recursive search.... You also do not have the obsoleted / updated by information. My script takes the rfc-index.xml and gets that information from there. The recursive searchs also automatically follows obsoleted by references, i.e. if there is reference in RFC 4306 to RFC 2463 (PS), and that RFC 2463 is obsoleted by RFC 4443 (DS) then my draft will show 4306 having reference to 4443 i.e. reference to DS instead of PS. BTW, my database looks like this: CREATE TABLE rfc ( docid VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , title TEXT, status VARCHAR( 4 ) NOT NULL , PRIMARY KEY ( docid ) , INDEX ( status ) ) TYPE = MYISAM ; CREATE TABLE obsoletes ( docid VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , obsoletes VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , INDEX ( docid ), INDEX ( obsoletes ) ) TYPE = MYISAM ; CREATE TABLE updates ( docid VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , updates VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , INDEX ( docid ), INDEX ( updates ) ) TYPE = MYISAM ; CREATE TABLE refs ( docid VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , reference VARCHAR( 8 ) NOT NULL , type VARCHAR( 4 ) NOT NULL , INDEX ( docid ), INDEX ( reference ), INDEX ( type ) ) TYPE = MYISAM ; and searches are done like this: SELECT b.reference, c.status, c.title FROM rfc c INNER JOIN rfc a ON c.docid = b.reference INNER JOIN refs b ON a.docid = b.docid WHERE b.type = 'n' AND c.status IN ('PS') AND a.docid = 'RFC4302'; -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 17:48:19 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G192h-0002qA-RR; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G192h-0002pl-72 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G192f-0002bl-Vm for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38B28564; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10/Submit) id k6DLmHxJ014312; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:48:17 -0700 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200607132148.k6DLmHxJ014312@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Tero Kivinen Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> <17590.42043.766486.882016@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:48:17 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org >Hmm... bit different but about same. I noticed that this generates >quite often normative and informative references to the rfc itself, as >if there is page break inside the reference list it will have rfc xxxx >in it. I assume you also search for (BCP|FYI|STD|RFC)\s*(\d+) regexp >for references. It's kind of horrible, if (s/(draft-[-\w]*|rfc)\s*$/$1/i) { my $newline = <>; $newline =~ s/^\s*//; $_ .= $newline; } s/(draft-(?:[-\w]+(?=-\d\d)|[-\w]+))(-\d\d)?/$& . ".txt" ne $ARGV && handleref($1, $type); ""/ieg; s/(rfc|std|bcp|fyi)[- ]?(\d+)/handleref(lc($1) . $2,$type); ""/ieg; >Hmmm.. you do not seem to map BCP/STD/FYI numbers to actual RFC >numbers. I did that so I can do the recursive search.... Yeah, for your purposes my search is under-done - my purposes were to find what *I-Ds* refer to and specifically if a *given* draft had a downref. The info is surely in my databases somewhere ;-) >You also do not have the obsoleted / updated by information. s/have/display/ ;-) >i.e. if there is reference in RFC 4306 to RFC 2463 (PS), and that RFC >2463 is obsoleted by RFC 4443 (DS) then my draft will show 4306 having >reference to 4443 i.e. reference to DS instead of PS. Excellent. Visit https://compost.research.att.com/dbpeek/ and log in with username ietf, password ietf to see my data. My data was created for more general purposes so doesn't lend itself to an easy join (especially since draft info and RFC info are in different databases). Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 18:28:36 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19fg-0007RI-SJ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:28:36 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19fg-0007R4-0Q for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:28:36 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19f2-0007v9-C7 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:27:58 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6DMRsVq003355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:27:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6DMRsdm018768; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:27:54 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17590.51434.252641.766219@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:27:54 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org In-Reply-To: <200607132148.k6DLmHxJ014312@bright.research.att.com> References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> <17590.42043.766486.882016@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607132148.k6DLmHxJ014312@bright.research.att.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 10 min X-Total-Time: 12 min X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Bill Fenner writes: > >Hmmm.. you do not seem to map BCP/STD/FYI numbers to actual RFC > >numbers. I did that so I can do the recursive search.... > > Yeah, for your purposes my search is under-done - my purposes > were to find what *I-Ds* refer to and specifically if a *given* > draft had a downref. The info is surely in my databases somewhere > ;-) Couldn't find it from the tables you had... > >You also do not have the obsoleted / updated by information. > s/have/display/ ;-) Same for that.... > >i.e. if there is reference in RFC 4306 to RFC 2463 (PS), and that RFC > >2463 is obsoleted by RFC 4443 (DS) then my draft will show 4306 having > >reference to 4443 i.e. reference to DS instead of PS. > > Excellent. > > Visit https://compost.research.att.com/dbpeek/ and log in with > username ietf, password ietf to see my data. My data was created > for more general purposes so doesn't lend itself to an easy join > (especially since draft info and RFC info are in different databases). Them being in the different databases do not make joins impossible, you can simply refer them as draftdep.draftdep.foo and ietf.bar in select... One thing they asked when I talked to those doing reviews, was to get easy access to the document author email and working group chair's email. I.e. when they make the review of the document they need to send email to the review team, ad's and then authors and WG chairs. Getting those last 2 sometimes requires extra searching from the ietf web page, so if that information could be received directly by the tool I make it would make their work a bit easier. I noticed you have list of WG's in the database, but no email address of the chairs. Also ID database does not have email addresses of the authors. The trackerdata seems to have some notify emails, don't know what they are intended to be used. -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 18:30:03 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19h5-00085k-Ra; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:30:03 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19h3-00082k-Sj for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:30:01 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G11kz-0005If-Bq for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:01:33 -0400 Received: from fireball.acr.fi ([83.145.195.1] helo=mail.kivinen.iki.fi) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G11KX-0007Pa-QV for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:34:15 -0400 Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6DDY5DV018851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:34:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.5.20060308/8.12.11) id k6DDY5Vd022597; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:34:05 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17590.19405.58931.705936@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:34:05 +0300 From: Tero Kivinen To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org In-Reply-To: <44B64B0F.20505@levkowetz.com> References: <17589.1380.923471.83810@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <44B64B0F.20505@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 2 min X-Total-Time: 2 min X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > > Test those and tell what you think about. If we want to put it up to > > the tools.ietf.org it would be better to do it now here in the IETF so > > I can help setting it up there (makeing sure the configuration of > > mysql / apache etc is ok, and making necessary tables to database > > etc). > > Right. What about sitting down 16:30 in 520 and fixing this? I have meeting with the Sam Weiler and Mary Barnes at that time about the review team tools. We start 16:15 at the terminal room, don't know how long it will take. -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 18:46:21 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19wr-0001Zf-SQ; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:46:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19wq-0001ZZ-N2 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:46:20 -0400 Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.183]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G19wp-0002Ch-AD for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:46:20 -0400 Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 83C5638144; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7391738015; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1129737E44; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G19wl-0003qL-N2; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:46:17 +0200 Message-ID: <44B6CD35.60209@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:46:13 -0400 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Macintosh/20060530) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tero Kivinen Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> <17590.42043.766486.882016@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607132148.k6DLmHxJ014312@bright.research.att.com> <17590.51434.252641.766219@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <17590.51434.252641.766219@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Cc: Bill Fenner , tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1867609968==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1867609968== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig33B7C26025FC1A9B7C003B77" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig33B7C26025FC1A9B7C003B77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on 2006-07-13 18:27 Tero Kivinen said the following: > I noticed you have list of WG's in the database, but no email address > of the chairs. Also ID database does not have email addresses of the > authors. The trackerdata seems to have some notify emails, don't know > what they are intended to be used. I maintain aliases for all wg chairs and ADs, of the form -chairs@tools.ietf.org and -ads@tools.ietf.org. There is no reliable source of author's email addresses, but I'm considering extracting them from the drafts using Jari's script, and push them into the draft status information I'm building up to support the notification engine. In that case I could also implement an idea from Bill of creating email aliases like draft-ietf-foo-barbar@tools.ietf.org which would go to authors, chairs and ads. Henrik --------------enig33B7C26025FC1A9B7C003B77 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFEts01eVhrtTJkXCMRAmt8AJ4q5E4t5aCP7Xl34Vl+sdcQraJ2TQCfaTPb +5m9JpVrjI6V5T8vfgjbvCA= =PEOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig33B7C26025FC1A9B7C003B77-- --===============1867609968== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============1867609968==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 13 19:13:58 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G1ANa-0005yb-Ib; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:13:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G1ANa-0005yW-1P for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:13:58 -0400 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G1ANX-0004WF-R8 for tools-team@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:13:58 -0400 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9A5147BD5; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10/Submit) id k6DNDsB7016443; Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:13:54 -0700 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200607132313.k6DNDsB7016443@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Tero Kivinen Subject: Re: [Tools-team] New tool, that might be useful to put on the tools.ietf.org References: <200607122247.k6CMlmDv006973@bright.research.att.com> <17589.32902.863696.171557@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607131146.k6DBkO1n029464@bright.research.att.com> <17590.42043.766486.882016@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> <200607132148.k6DLmHxJ014312@bright.research.att.com> <17590.51434.252641.766219@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:13:54 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org >Them being in the different databases do not make joins impossible, >you can simply refer them as draftdep.draftdep.foo and ietf.bar in >select... No, but I can't say "join with ietf.rfcindex if it's an rfc, otherwise join with ietf.allid and trackerdata.docs". >One thing they asked when I talked to those doing reviews, was to get >easy access to the document author email and working group chair's >email. I.e. when they make the review of the document they need to >send email to the review team, ad's and then authors and WG chairs. >Getting those last 2 sometimes requires extra searching from the ietf >web page, so if that information could be received directly by the >tool I make it would make their work a bit easier. I sometimes use Henrik's data for WG chairs, but I have no source for authors. >I noticed you have list of WG's in the database, but no email address >of the chairs. Also ID database does not have email addresses of the >authors. The trackerdata seems to have some notify emails, don't know >what they are intended to be used. That's for datatracker state change notifications. It's automatically populated with the WG chairs when the document is added, and can be edited by the AD. Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team