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Hi,

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[cc-ing tools-team]=0A=0AHmmm... I got no such warnings at all from idnits =
1.123 (same version you used)=0Ausing the old RFC 3978 IPR statement.=0ACan=
't explain why. =0A=0AI'm cc-ing the tools-team alias in case they know of =
a related issue and fix.=0AIf we don't hear back from them within a day or =
so, I'd suggest you go ahead and=0Asubmit. Next revision (after Feb 1) can =
use the new boilerplate.=0A=0Atnx,=0A=0A-gabriel=0A=0A----- Original Messag=
e ----=0AFrom: Syam Madanapalli <smadanapalli@gmail.com>=0ATo: gabriel mont=
enegro <gabriel_montenegro_2000@yahoo.com>=0ACc: Daniel Park <soohong.park@=
samsung.com>=0ASent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:52:34 AM=0ASubject: Re:=
 16ng analysis document revision=0A=0AThank you Gabriel.=0AI am now consist=
ently getting the following but the the xml2rfc is not=0Arecognizing RFC 47=
48 as of now. Shall I go ahead and submit=0Awith RFC 3978 IPR statement?=0A=
=0ARegards,=0ASyam=0A=0A=0Aidnits 1.123=0A=0Atmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-=
model-analysis-02.txt:=0A=0A=0A  Checking nits according to http://www.ietf=
.org/ID-Checklist.html:=0A=0A    Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 bo=
ilerplate...=0A=0A  - This document has ISOC Copyright according to RFC 397=
8, instead of the=0A    newer IETF Trust Copyright according to RFC 4748.  =
You should consider=0A    updating it; the new Copyright statement will be =
required from February=0A    1st, 2007=0A  - This document has an original =
RFC 3978 Section 5.5 Disclaimer, instead of=0A    the newer disclaimer whic=
h includes the IETF Trust according to RFC 4748.=0A    You should consider =
updating it; the new disclaimer will be required from=0A    February 1st, 2=
007=0A=0A  Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelin=
es.txt:=0A    Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of=0A  =
  1id-guidelines.txt yet).=0A=0A  Miscellaneous warnings:=0A    None.=0A=0A=
  Experimental warnings:=0A    None.=0A=0A    No nits found.=0A=0A=0AOn 1/1=
0/07, gabriel montenegro <gabriel_montenegro_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>=
 Syam,=0A>=0A> The offending line was #400 in a diagram. Turns out other di=
agrams also went=0A> beyond the 70 characters. To bring them back in I repl=
aced "To Internet"=0A> with=0A> "Internet" in the diagrams and now ID nits =
passes cleanly.=0A>=0A> I attach the resultant xml and .txt files.=0A>=0A> =
I used xml2rfc from:=0A>=0A>     http://xml.resource.org/=0A>=0A> I used ID=
nits from:=0A>=0A>     http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/=0A>=0A> The outp=
ut (verbose) was:=0A>=0A> idnits 1.123=0A>=0A> tmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-lin=
k-model-analysis-02.txt.txt:=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>  Checking nits according to=0A=
> http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html:=0A>=0A>  Checking conformance with=
 RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...=0A>=0A>  the boilerplate looks good.=0A>=0A> =
 No nits found.=0A>=0A>  Checking nits according to=0A> http://www.ietf.org=
/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt:=0A>  Nothing found here (but these checks do not =
cover all of=0A>  1id-guidelines.txt yet).=0A>=0A>  Miscellaneous warnings:=
=0A>  None.=0A>=0A>  Experimental warnings:=0A>  None.=0A>=0A>  No nits fou=
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ont-size:12pt"><div style=3D"font-family: courier,monaco,monospace,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 12pt;">[cc-ing tools-team]<br><br>Hmmm... I got no such warn=
ings at all from idnits 1.123 (same version you used)<br>using the old RFC =
3978 IPR statement.<br>Can't explain why. <br><br>I'm cc-ing the tools-team=
 alias in case they know of a related issue and fix.<br>If we don't hear ba=
ck from them within a day or so, I'd suggest you go ahead and<br>submit. Ne=
xt revision (after Feb 1) can use the new boilerplate.<br><br>tnx,<br><br>-=
gabriel<br><br><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,se=
rif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Syam Madanapall=
i &lt;smadanapalli@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: gabriel montenegro &lt;gabriel_mont=
enegro_2000@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Cc: Daniel Park &lt;soohong.park@samsung.com&g=
t;<br>Sent:
 Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:52:34 AM<br>Subject: Re: 16ng analysis docu=
ment revision<br><br><div>Thank you Gabriel.<br>I am now consistently getti=
ng the following but the the xml2rfc is not<br>recognizing RFC 4748 as of n=
ow. Shall I go ahead and submit<br>with RFC 3978 IPR statement?<br><br>Rega=
rds,<br>Syam<br><br><br>idnits 1.123<br><br>tmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-m=
odel-analysis-02.txt:<br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Checking nits according to <a =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html">http://www=
.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html</a>:<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Checking co=
nformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;- This docum=
ent has ISOC Copyright according to RFC 3978, instead of the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp=
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ou should consider<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;updating it; the new Copyrigh=
t statement will be required from February<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1st,
 2007<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;- This document has an original RFC 3978 Section 5.5 D=
isclaimer, instead of<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the newer disclaimer which=
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;&nbsp;No nits found.<br><br><br>On 1/10/07, gabriel montenegro &lt;gabriel=
_montenegro_2000@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Syam,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
 The offending
 line was #400 in a diagram. Turns out other diagrams also went<br>&gt; bey=
ond the 70 characters. To bring them back in I replaced "To Internet"<br>&g=
t; with<br>&gt; "Internet" in the diagrams and now ID nits passes cleanly.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt; I attach the resultant xml and .txt files.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
I used xml2rfc from:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"http://xml.resource.org/">http://xml.resource.org/</a><br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; I used IDnits from:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/">http://tools.=
ietf.org/tools/idnits/</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; The output (verbose) was:<br>&gt=
;<br>&gt; idnits 1.123<br>&gt;<br>&gt; tmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-model-=
analysis-02.txt.txt:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Checking ni=
ts according to<br>&gt; <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/ID=
-Checklist.html">http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html</a>:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;Checking
 conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;t=
he boilerplate looks good.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;No nits found.<br>&gt=
;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Checking nits according to<br>&gt; <a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt">http://www.ietf.org/=
ietf/1id-guidelines.txt</a>:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Nothing found here (but the=
se checks do not cover all of<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;1id-guidelines.txt yet).<b=
r>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Miscellaneous warnings:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;None.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Experimental warnings:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;None.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;No nits found.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -gabriel<br>&gt;<=
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Hi Syam, Gabriel,

on 2007-01-10 20:25 gabriel montenegro said the following:
> [cc-ing tools-team]
> 
> Hmmm... I got no such warnings at all from idnits 1.123 (same version you used)
> using the old RFC 3978 IPR statement.
> Can't explain why. 

That's odd.  You should have been warned.  In which environment are you
running idnits (OS and version of awk, in particular)?

> I'm cc-ing the tools-team alias in case they know of a related issue and fix.
> If we don't hear back from them within a day or so, I'd suggest you go ahead and
> submit. Next revision (after Feb 1) can use the new boilerplate.

Work is under way to release a new version of xml2rfc which will emit the new
boilerplate, and if you use the pre-release version 1.32pre2 of xml2rfc you
will also get the correct boilerplate.  But even so, you're fine submitting
with the old boilerplate till the cutoff on February 1st.


	Henrik

> tnx,
> 
> -gabriel
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Syam Madanapalli <smadanapalli@gmail.com>
> To: gabriel montenegro <gabriel_montenegro_2000@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Daniel Park <soohong.park@samsung.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:52:34 AM
> Subject: Re: 16ng analysis document revision
> 
> Thank you Gabriel.
> I am now consistently getting the following but the the xml2rfc is not
> recognizing RFC 4748 as of now. Shall I go ahead and submit
> with RFC 3978 IPR statement?
> 
> Regards,
> Syam
> 
> 
> idnits 1.123
> 
> tmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-model-analysis-02.txt:
> 
> 
>   Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html:
> 
>     Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...
> 
>   - This document has ISOC Copyright according to RFC 3978, instead of the
>     newer IETF Trust Copyright according to RFC 4748.  You should consider
>     updating it; the new Copyright statement will be required from February
>     1st, 2007
>   - This document has an original RFC 3978 Section 5.5 Disclaimer, instead of
>     the newer disclaimer which includes the IETF Trust according to RFC 4748.
>     You should consider updating it; the new disclaimer will be required from
>     February 1st, 2007
> 
>   Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt:
>     Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of
>     1id-guidelines.txt yet).
> 
>   Miscellaneous warnings:
>     None.
> 
>   Experimental warnings:
>     None.
> 
>     No nits found.
> 
> 
> On 1/10/07, gabriel montenegro <gabriel_montenegro_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Syam,
>>
>> The offending line was #400 in a diagram. Turns out other diagrams also went
>> beyond the 70 characters. To bring them back in I replaced "To Internet"
>> with
>> "Internet" in the diagrams and now ID nits passes cleanly.
>>
>> I attach the resultant xml and .txt files.
>>
>> I used xml2rfc from:
>>
>>     http://xml.resource.org/
>>
>> I used IDnits from:
>>
>>     http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
>>
>> The output (verbose) was:
>>
>> idnits 1.123
>>
>> tmp/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-model-analysis-02.txt.txt:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Checking nits according to
>> http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html:
>>
>>  Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...
>>
>>  the boilerplate looks good.
>>
>>  No nits found.
>>
>>  Checking nits according to
>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt:
>>  Nothing found here (but these checks do not cover all of
>>  1id-guidelines.txt yet).
>>
>>  Miscellaneous warnings:
>>  None.
>>
>>  Experimental warnings:
>>  None.
>>
>>  No nits found.
>>
>> -gabriel
>>
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