From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 03 13:54:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnCw-00033q-8m; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:54:14 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYSnt-0007KF-Hx for tools-team@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:07:01 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com ([205.167.76.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYSnp-0003rL-CB for tools-team@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:07:01 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l32K6sno001377 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:06:54 -0700 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.8/8.12.11/Submit) id l32K6sXe001376 for tools-team@ietf.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:06:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:06:54 -0700 From: David Meyer To: tools-team@ietf.org Message-ID: <20070402200654.GA1363@1-4-5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "No wasted time, we're alive today, Churnin up the past, there's no easier way, Time's been between us, a means to an end, G_d it's good to be here walking together my friend" -- srv, Life By The Drop X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 093efd19b5f651b2707595638f6c4003 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:54:12 -0400 Subject: [Tools-team] can you give me a hint? [sandy@tislabs.com: difficulties with ram mailing list digests] X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0311746515==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org --===============0311746515== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from Sandy Murphy ----- > From: sandy@tislabs.com (Sandy Murphy) > To: lixia@CS.UCLA.EDU, ram-owner@iab.org > Cc: sandy@tislabs.com > Subject: difficulties with ram mailing list digests > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:30:55 -0400 (EDT) >=20 > Lixia, as I mentioned to you at the IETF, I am signed up to receive > digests for the ram mailing list. I do receive digests -- one per > message (thus defeating any purpose of signing up for digests :-)). >=20 > This morning I received several messages, each a digest, each containing > exactly one message. >=20 > Is there any way to fix this? If not, then I might as well sign > up for regular delivery. >=20 > Below are some parts of one burst of messages I received this morning > to show what I mean. >=20 > --Sandy >=20 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 > >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:40:15 2007 > From: ram-request@iab.org > Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 > ... > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: Incremental Deployment of LISP (Roland Dobbins) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:37:43 -0700 > From: Roland Dobbins > ... >=20 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 > >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:45:44 2007 > From: ram-request@iab.org > Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 36 > ... > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental > Deploymentof LISP] (Brian E Carpenter) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:37:14 +0200 > From: Brian E Carpenter > ... >=20 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 > >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:46:56 2007 > From: ram-request@iab.org > Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 > ... > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. RE: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental > Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 38 > ... > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: Incremental Deployment of LISP (Eliot Lear) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:44:27 +0200 > From: Eliot Lear > ... >=20 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 > >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:54:18 2007 > From: ram-request@iab.org > Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 39 > ... > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental > Deploymentof LISP] (Roland Dobbins) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 Apr=20 ----- End forwarded message ----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGEWJeORgD1qCZ2KcRAgI9AJ4k8LTVoZbj51WRpAPED/uiQCOfowCgkboC k0iz3M+3/pbKoVZO3zaF93Q= =KdNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- --===============0311746515== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============0311746515==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 03 14:10:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnSY-0004ic-RW; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:10:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnSX-0004iW-NN for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:10:21 -0400 Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.182]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnSW-0007yO-5h for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:10:21 -0400 Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6CD6A384A4; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC6538473; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C3D37E48; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:10:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HYnSS-00006c-5E; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:10:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4612988F.8020503@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:10:23 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Meyer Subject: Re: [Tools-team] can you give me a hint? [sandy@tislabs.com: difficulties with ram mailing list digests] References: <20070402200654.GA1363@1-4-5.net> In-Reply-To: <20070402200654.GA1363@1-4-5.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dmm@1-4-5.net, tools-team@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 29dc808194f5fb921c09d0040806d6eb Cc: tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0569513080==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0569513080== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig285999A92C365B91A2643E35" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig285999A92C365B91A2643E35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David, Sorry -- this is a list manager problem I haven't run into -- I don't have any particular good ideas... Is this a Mailman list? Is there any error messages in the list manager log files? Henrik on 2007-04-02 22:06 David Meyer said the following: > ----- Forwarded message from Sandy Murphy ----- >=20 >> From: sandy@tislabs.com (Sandy Murphy) >> To: lixia@CS.UCLA.EDU, ram-owner@iab.org >> Cc: sandy@tislabs.com >> Subject: difficulties with ram mailing list digests >> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:30:55 -0400 (EDT) >>=20 >> Lixia, as I mentioned to you at the IETF, I am signed up to receive >> digests for the ram mailing list. I do receive digests -- one per >> message (thus defeating any purpose of signing up for digests :-)). >>=20 >> This morning I received several messages, each a digest, each containi= ng >> exactly one message. >>=20 >> Is there any way to fix this? If not, then I might as well sign >> up for regular delivery. >>=20 >> Below are some parts of one burst of messages I received this morning >> to show what I mean. >>=20 >> --Sandy >>=20 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >> >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:40:15 2007 >> From: ram-request@iab.org >> Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 37 >> ... >> Today's Topics: >>=20 >> 1. Re: Incremental Deployment of LISP (Roland Dobbins) >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >>=20 >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:37:43 -0700 >> From: Roland Dobbins >> ... >>=20 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >> >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:45:44 2007 >> From: ram-request@iab.org >> Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 36 >> ... >> Today's Topics: >>=20 >> 1. Re: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental >> Deploymentof LISP] (Brian E Carpenter) >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >>=20 >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:37:14 +0200 >> From: Brian E Carpenter >> ... >>=20 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >> >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:46:56 2007 >> From: ram-request@iab.org >> Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 >> ... >> Today's Topics: >>=20 >> 1. RE: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental >> Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 38 >> ... >> Today's Topics: >>=20 >> 1. Re: Incremental Deployment of LISP (Eliot Lear) >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >>=20 >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:44:27 +0200 >> From: Eliot Lear >> ... >>=20 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >> >From ram-bounces@iab.org Mon Apr 2 11:54:18 2007 >> From: ram-request@iab.org >> Subject: RAM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 39 >> ... >> Today's Topics: >>=20 >> 1. Re: Thousands of large PI customers [Re: [RAM] Incremental >> Deploymentof LISP] (Roland Dobbins) >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >>=20 >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 2 Apr=20 >=20 > ----- End forwarded message ----- >=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-team mailing list > Tools-team@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --------------enig285999A92C365B91A2643E35 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFGEpiPeVhrtTJkXCMRAhnrAKDPrOqlJzLZVLUr3frP0oAELfiDggCgz/34 XR8R6lgejScW6q/liuqUa8I= =2OIA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig285999A92C365B91A2643E35-- --===============0569513080== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============0569513080==-- From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 03 14:28:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnkM-0003O4-39; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:28:46 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnkL-0003Nv-2U for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:28:45 -0400 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYnkB-0006qg-ER for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:28:44 -0400 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214D6147F00; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 14:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id l33ISZhm004029; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:28:35 -0700 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200704031828.l33ISZhm004029@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-team] can you give me a hint? [sandy@tislabs.com: difficulties with ram mailing list digests] References: <20070402200654.GA1363@1-4-5.net> <4612988F.8020503@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:28:34 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Cc: David Meyer , tools-team@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org I've never run into this either. However, my best guess is that the digest_size_threshold is set too low. See https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/admin/ram/digest It's set to 30 on all the lists I've seen, but perhaps it got set incorrectly for ram? Bill _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team From tools-team-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 04 19:26:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HZEry-0005IG-83; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:26:26 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpQR-00065F-F3 for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:16:19 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com ([205.167.76.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpQQ-0000YP-1q for tools-team@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:16:19 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l33KGHRb024674; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 13:16:17 -0700 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.8/8.12.11/Submit) id l33KGH8K024673; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 13:16:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 13:16:17 -0700 From: David Meyer To: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: [Tools-team] can you give me a hint? [sandy@tislabs.com: difficulties with ram mailing list digests] Message-ID: <20070403201617.GA24655@1-4-5.net> References: <20070402200654.GA1363@1-4-5.net> <4612988F.8020503@levkowetz.com> <200704031828.l33ISZhm004029@bright.research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200704031828.l33ISZhm004029@bright.research.att.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "No wasted time, we're alive today, Churnin up the past, there's no easier way, Time's been between us, a means to an end, G_d it's good to be here walking together my friend" -- srv, Life By The Drop X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:26:25 -0400 Cc: tools-team@ietf.org, Henrik Levkowetz X-BeenThere: tools-team@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "The purpose of the TOOLS team is to provide IETF feedback and guidance during the development of software tools to support various parts of IETF activities." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0766604885==" Errors-To: tools-team-bounces@ietf.org --===============0766604885== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:28:34AM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: >=20 > I've never run into this either. However, my best guess is that the > digest_size_threshold is set too low. > See https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/admin/ram/digest > It's set to 30 on all the lists I've seen, but perhaps it got set > incorrectly for ram? Thnx, it was set to zero. --dmm --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGErYRORgD1qCZ2KcRAj88AJ0S5MVxfUugSYGpB7tlsf8bwnMKHQCdGX2t xY3uaCSNmOaVEfIw9k5xzqM= =Zrpq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- --===============0766604885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-team mailing list Tools-team@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-team --===============0766604885==--