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I agree with Julian, and strongly advocate approach #1
(take locking out, keep bind out, make everything more modular, for the 
following reasons):

- WebDAV is already a family of specs (3253, ACL, redirect, ordering),
each of which defines an optional feature-package beyond what is defined
in the base spec.  It would be more consistent to handle locking
(which is an optional feature-package) the same way.

- Having a smaller "base WebDAV spec" I believe will make WebDAV more
accessible to new implementors, since the base spec will be less daunting 
in
size.  You don't have to read/understand the locking extensions to
understand versioning, ACL, redirect, or ordering, but the current 
packaging of locking in with the base protocol makes it look like you do.

- It allows us to make more rapid progress on getting the locking
functionality standardized (i.e. it doesn't have to wait until we've
resolved all the other issues in 2518bis).

Cheers,
Geoff


Julian wrote on 01/17/2004 03:52:29 AM:

> 
> In an off-list mail, Jim Whitehead wrote:
> 
>  > I'm tempted to just put BIND right into 2518bis -- worst case
>  > we recycle at
>  > Proposed, which I don't see as being a major adoption
>  > impediment anymore (we
>  > could perhaps call it WebDAV v2, to make it clear that we're making
>  > progress).
> 
> Well, I think that would be a radical change to our strategy...
> 
> Seems that opinions vary between
> 
> 1) take locking out, keep BIND out, make everyhing more modular and
> 2) keep locking in, add BIND, publish RFC2518+BIND (staying at the 
> "proposed level")
> 
> I'd definifively vote for 1).
> 
> Julian
> 
> -- 
> <green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760
> 



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Julian wrote on 01/16/2004 03:00:17 PM:

> Jason wrote in an off-list mail:
>  > ... But I think it's fine, and in fact advisible,
>  > to establish the basic vocabulary of bindings in 2518 and let
>  > the bindings draft just cover the optional issues and
>  > clarifications for bindings and multiple bindings.
> 
> I do agree that RFC2518bis *should* remove any inconsistencies with 
> BIND, where present. Note that one major problem was the definition for 
> DELETE, which (in RFC2518) required to remove all other bindings to the 
> resource as well. AFAIK, this has been fixed in RFC2518bis.
> 
> So besides the fact that RFC2518bis talks about "internal members" 
> rather than bindings, I'm not really sure that anything *needs* to be 
> fixed. Geoff?

It probably is worth making a pass through 2518bis to make sure that
all the language that deals with internal members is compatible with
bind semantics, but I didn't find any problems of that sort last time
I read through 2518bis (but I wasn't specifically looking for that, so
I could have missed something).

Cheers,
Geoff



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+1.

//Stefan

Am 02.02.2004 um 15:15 schrieb Geoffrey M Clemm:

>
> I agree with Julian, and strongly advocate approach #1
> (take locking out, keep bind out, make everything more modular, for the
> following reasons):
>
> - WebDAV is already a family of specs (3253, ACL, redirect, ordering),
> each of which defines an optional feature-package beyond what is 
> defined
> in the base spec.  It would be more consistent to handle locking
> (which is an optional feature-package) the same way.
>
> - Having a smaller "base WebDAV spec" I believe will make WebDAV more
> accessible to new implementors, since the base spec will be less 
> daunting
> in
> size.  You don't have to read/understand the locking extensions to
> understand versioning, ACL, redirect, or ordering, but the current
> packaging of locking in with the base protocol makes it look like you 
> do.
>
> - It allows us to make more rapid progress on getting the locking
> functionality standardized (i.e. it doesn't have to wait until we've
> resolved all the other issues in 2518bis).
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
>
> Julian wrote on 01/17/2004 03:52:29 AM:
>
>>
>> In an off-list mail, Jim Whitehead wrote:
>>
>>> I'm tempted to just put BIND right into 2518bis -- worst case
>>> we recycle at
>>> Proposed, which I don't see as being a major adoption
>>> impediment anymore (we
>>> could perhaps call it WebDAV v2, to make it clear that we're making
>>> progress).
>>
>> Well, I think that would be a radical change to our strategy...
>>
>> Seems that opinions vary between
>>
>> 1) take locking out, keep BIND out, make everyhing more modular and
>> 2) keep locking in, add BIND, publish RFC2518+BIND (staying at the
>> "proposed level")
>>
>> I'd definifively vote for 1).
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> -- 
>> <green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760
>>
>



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+1, for much the same reasons outlined in Geoff's post below.

Q: 2518 defines two levels of compliance, depending on whether locking 
is supported or not - would it make sense to try and extend this 
approach to cover all of the related specs?

Cheers,
Elias

Geoffrey M Clemm wrote:

>I agree with Julian, and strongly advocate approach #1
>(take locking out, keep bind out, make everything more modular, for the 
>following reasons):
>
>- WebDAV is already a family of specs (3253, ACL, redirect, ordering),
>each of which defines an optional feature-package beyond what is defined
>in the base spec.  It would be more consistent to handle locking
>(which is an optional feature-package) the same way.
>
>- Having a smaller "base WebDAV spec" I believe will make WebDAV more
>accessible to new implementors, since the base spec will be less daunting 
>in
>size.  You don't have to read/understand the locking extensions to
>understand versioning, ACL, redirect, or ordering, but the current 
>packaging of locking in with the base protocol makes it look like you do.
>
>- It allows us to make more rapid progress on getting the locking
>functionality standardized (i.e. it doesn't have to wait until we've
>resolved all the other issues in 2518bis).
>
>Cheers,
>Geoff
>
>
>Julian wrote on 01/17/2004 03:52:29 AM:
>
>  
>
>>In an off-list mail, Jim Whitehead wrote:
>>
>> > I'm tempted to just put BIND right into 2518bis -- worst case
>> > we recycle at
>> > Proposed, which I don't see as being a major adoption
>> > impediment anymore (we
>> > could perhaps call it WebDAV v2, to make it clear that we're making
>> > progress).
>>
>>Well, I think that would be a radical change to our strategy...
>>
>>Seems that opinions vary between
>>
>>1) take locking out, keep BIND out, make everyhing more modular and
>>2) keep locking in, add BIND, publish RFC2518+BIND (staying at the 
>>"proposed level")
>>
>>I'd definifively vote for 1).
>>
>>Julian
>>
>>-- 
>><green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760
>>
>>    
>>



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Yes, the specs all use the DAV: header to indicate what they support.
The only difference is that rather than using integers (1, 2), they use
strings.

Cheers,
Geoff

Elias wrote on 02/02/2004 02:30:50 PM:

> 
> +1, for much the same reasons outlined in Geoff's post below.
> 
> Q: 2518 defines two levels of compliance, depending on whether locking 
> is supported or not - would it make sense to try and extend this 
> approach to cover all of the related specs?
> 
> Cheers,
> Elias
> 
> Geoffrey M Clemm wrote:
> 
> >I agree with Julian, and strongly advocate approach #1
> >(take locking out, keep bind out, make everything more modular, for the 

> >following reasons):
> >
> >- WebDAV is already a family of specs (3253, ACL, redirect, ordering),
> >each of which defines an optional feature-package beyond what is 
defined
> >in the base spec.  It would be more consistent to handle locking
> >(which is an optional feature-package) the same way.
> >
> >- Having a smaller "base WebDAV spec" I believe will make WebDAV more
> >accessible to new implementors, since the base spec will be less 
daunting 
> >in
> >size.  You don't have to read/understand the locking extensions to
> >understand versioning, ACL, redirect, or ordering, but the current 
> >packaging of locking in with the base protocol makes it look like you 
do.
> >
> >- It allows us to make more rapid progress on getting the locking
> >functionality standardized (i.e. it doesn't have to wait until we've
> >resolved all the other issues in 2518bis).
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Geoff
> >
> >
> >Julian wrote on 01/17/2004 03:52:29 AM:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>In an off-list mail, Jim Whitehead wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm tempted to just put BIND right into 2518bis -- worst case
> >> > we recycle at
> >> > Proposed, which I don't see as being a major adoption
> >> > impediment anymore (we
> >> > could perhaps call it WebDAV v2, to make it clear that we're making
> >> > progress).
> >>
> >>Well, I think that would be a radical change to our strategy...
> >>
> >>Seems that opinions vary between
> >>
> >>1) take locking out, keep BIND out, make everyhing more modular and
> >>2) keep locking in, add BIND, publish RFC2518+BIND (staying at the 
> >>"proposed level")
> >>
> >>I'd definifively vote for 1).
> >>
> >>Julian
> >>
> >>-- 
> >><green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> 



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Elias Sinderson wrote:
> 
> +1, for much the same reasons outlined in Geoff's post below.
> 
> Q: 2518 defines two levels of compliance, depending on whether locking 
> is supported or not - would it make sense to try and extend this 
> approach to cover all of the related specs?
 > ...

I thought that this is what they're doing already?

Julian



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My apologies, as I am not entirely sure this question belongs here.

=20

I am quite new to WebDAV, and have run into a few problems.  I've been
staring at this particular problem for quite some time, and am hoping I =
can
get a fresh set of eyes to have a look.  Basically, when I attempt to =
open a
web folder (using Davenport as the DAV server), I get the message =
'Internet
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instead?'.

=20

I have tried a slew of changes to the Davenport source code with varying
degrees of success.  In this example, the 'shares' share will not =
display
properly in a Web Folder view.  If I attempt to view a subdirectory as a =
Web
Folder however, the subdirectory will display properly in Web Folders =
view.

=20

I am using Windows XP with IE6 (both fully patched) for the DAV client.  =
See
the listing below for the request/response.

=20

=20

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=20

=20

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Mike

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>15:57:25
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Server: =
Jetty/4.2.14
(Windows 2000/5.0 x86 java/1.4.2_03)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Length: =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Type: =
text/xml; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&lt;?xml
version=3D&quot;1.0&quot; =
encoding=3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;?&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;multistatus
xmlns=3D&quot;DAV:&quot; =
xmlns:w=3D&quot;urn:uuid:c2f41010-65b3-11d1-a29f-00aa00c14882/&quot;&gt;<=
/span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;response&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;href&gt;http://host/davenport/server/shares&lt;/href&gt;</span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;propstat&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;status&gt;HTTP/1.1 200 MultiStatus&lt;/status&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;prop&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getcontenttype&gt;httpd/unix-directory&lt;/getcontenttype&gt;</span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;ishidden =
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;0&lt;/ishidden&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;iscollection =
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;1&lt;/iscollection&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;resourcetype&gt;&lt;collection/&gt;&lt;/resourcetype&gt;</span></font=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;getlastmodified =
w:dt=3D&quot;dateTime.rfc1123&quot;&gt;Thu,
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:"Courier New"'>01 Jan 1970</span></font><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> =
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>00:00:00</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
GMT&lt;/getlastmodified&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;displayname&gt;shares/&lt;/displayname&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;creationdate =
w:dt=3D&quot;dateTime.tz&quot;&gt;1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z&lt;/creationda=
te&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;isreadonly =
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;1&lt;/isreadonly&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getcontentlength =
w:dt=3D&quot;int&quot;&gt;98626961408&lt;/getcontentlength&gt;</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getetag&gt;&quot;195a6053b85db823650312a6f1705da6&quot;&lt;/getetag&g=
t;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;/prop&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;/propstat&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/response&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;/multistatus&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Mike</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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Mike McDonald wrote:

> My apologies, as I am not entirely sure this question belongs here.
> 
>  
> 
> I am quite new to WebDAV, and have run into a few problems.  I’ve been 
> staring at this particular problem for quite some time, and am hoping I 
> can get a fresh set of eyes to have a look.  Basically, when I attempt 
> to open a web folder (using Davenport as the DAV server), I get the 
> message ‘Internet Explorer could not open …Would you like to use the 
> default view instead?’.
> 
>  
> 
> I have tried a slew of changes to the Davenport source code with varying 
> degrees of success.  In this example, the ‘shares’ share will not 
> display properly in a Web Folder view.  If I attempt to view a 
> subdirectory as a Web Folder however, the subdirectory will display 
> properly in Web Folders view.
> 
>  
> 
> I am using Windows XP with IE6 (both fully patched) for the DAV client.  
> See the listing below for the request/response.
 > ...

1) You may want to check which version you have, see details at 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/webfolder-client-list.html>

2) Regarding the response... I'd start by removinf everything that's not 
required or not plain DAV, notably


>                     <ishidden w:dt="boolean">0</ishidden>
>                     <iscollection w:dt="boolean">1</iscollection>
>                     <displayname>shares/</displayname>
>                     <isreadonly w:dt="boolean">1</isreadonly>
>                     <getcontentlength 
> w:dt="int">98626961408</getcontentlength>
>                     <getetag>"195a6053b85db823650312a6f1705da6"</getetag>

In particular, having non-zero content lengths may be confusing for the 
webfolder client.

Regards, Julian

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Here's another idea.  What if we made locking required in the next
version of WebDAV?  Servers that support RFC2518 can always claim 
support for RFC2518 without changes but most servers support locking
anyway and wouldn't find this difficult.  For clients of course it's
no change at all.  Then WebDAV core would have almost no options.

lisa

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> Elias Sinderson wrote:
> > 
> > +1, for much the same reasons outlined in Geoff's post below.
> > 
> > Q: 2518 defines two levels of compliance, depending on 
> whether locking 
> > is supported or not - would it make sense to try and extend this 
> > approach to cover all of the related specs?
>  > ...
> 
> I thought that this is what they're doing already?
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> 
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Well one nit is that Multistatus is usually 207, not 200, as in the =
body.
=20
Normally collections don't have getcontenttype, getcontentlength, or
getetag.  I don't know if that's what's throwing off Web Folders.
=20
There are examples of PROPFIND responses that work with Internet =
Explorer in
my book :)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130652083/qid=3D1076106098=
/sr=3D1
-1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/103-3410589-6207009?v=3Dglance
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130652083/qid=3D107610609=
8/sr=3D
1-1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/103-3410589-6207009?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks> &s=3Dbooks
=20
You can also try comparing to the PROPFIND responses you get querying
directories on www.sharemation.com (where you can sign up for a free
account).  Sharemation runs Xythos software.  Similarly there are other
servers running other DAV implementations that are known to work well =
with
Web Folders - e.g. anything running mod_dav.  You might be able to =
PROPFIND
www.webdav.org.
=20
Lisa D.

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org] =
On
Behalf Of Mike McDonald
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:17 PM
To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
Subject: Strange Problems (Davenport)



My apologies, as I am not entirely sure this question belongs here.

=20

I am quite new to WebDAV, and have run into a few problems.  I've been
staring at this particular problem for quite some time, and am hoping I =
can
get a fresh set of eyes to have a look.  Basically, when I attempt to =
open a
web folder (using Davenport as the DAV server), I get the message =
'Internet
Explorer could not open .Would you like to use the default view =
instead?'.

=20

I have tried a slew of changes to the Davenport source code with varying
degrees of success.  In this example, the 'shares' share will not =
display
properly in a Web Folder view.  If I attempt to view a subdirectory as a =
Web
Folder however, the subdirectory will display properly in Web Folders =
view.

=20

I am using Windows XP with IE6 (both fully patched) for the DAV client.  =
See
the listing below for the request/response.

=20

=20

PROPFIND /davenport/server/shares HTTP/1.1

Content-Language: en-us

Accept-Language: en-us

Content-Type: text/xml

Translate: f

Depth: 0

Content-Length: 0

User-Agent: Microsoft Data Access Internet Publishing Provider DAV

Host: host

Connection: Keep-Alive

=20

=20

=20

HTTP/1.1 207 Multi Status

Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:57:25 GMT

Server: Jetty/4.2.14 (Windows 2000/5.0 x86 java/1.4.2_03)

Content-Length: 826

Content-Type: text/xml; charset=3D"utf-8"

=20

<?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>

    <multistatus xmlns=3D"DAV:"
xmlns:w=3D"urn:uuid:c2f41010-65b3-11d1-a29f-00aa00c14882/">

        <response>

            <href>http://host/davenport/server/shares</href>

            <propstat>

                <status>HTTP/1.1 200 MultiStatus</status>

                <prop>

                    =
<getcontenttype>httpd/unix-directory</getcontenttype>

                    <ishidden w:dt=3D"boolean">0</ishidden>

                    <iscollection w:dt=3D"boolean">1</iscollection>

                    <resourcetype><collection/></resourcetype>

                    <getlastmodified w:dt=3D"dateTime.rfc1123">Thu, 01 =
Jan
1970 00:00:00 GMT</getlastmodified>

                    <displayname>shares/</displayname>

                    <creationdate
w:dt=3D"dateTime.tz">1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z</creationdate>

                    <isreadonly w:dt=3D"boolean">1</isreadonly>

                    <getcontentlength
w:dt=3D"int">98626961408</getcontentlength>

                    =
<getetag>"195a6053b85db823650312a6f1705da6"</getetag>

                </prop>

            </propstat>

        </response>

    </multistatus>

=20

=20

Thanks,

=20

Mike

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one nit is that Multistatus is usually 207, not 200, as in the=20
body.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Normally collections don't have getcontenttype, =
getcontentlength, or=20
getetag.&nbsp; I don't know if that's what's throwing off Web=20
Folders.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>There=20
are examples of PROPFIND responses that work with Internet Explorer in =
my book=20
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130652083/qid=3D10=
76106098/sr=3D1-1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/103-3410589-6207009?v=3Dglance&amp;s=3Dboo=
ks">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0130652083/qid=3D107610=
6098/sr=3D1-1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/103-3410589-6207009?v=3Dglance&amp;s=3Dbooks</=
A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN =
class=3D774502022-06022004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>You=20
can also try comparing to the PROPFIND responses you get querying =
directories on=20
<A href=3D"http://www.sharemation.com">www.sharemation.com</A> (where =
you can sign=20
up for a free account).&nbsp; Sharemation runs Xythos software.&nbsp; =
Similarly=20
there are other servers running other DAV implementations that are known =
to work=20
well with Web Folders - e.g. anything running mod_dav.&nbsp; You might =
be able=20
to PROPFIND <A=20
href=3D"http://www.webdav.org">www.webdav.org</A>.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D774502022-06022004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Lisa=20
D.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org] =
<B>On=20
  Behalf Of </B>Mike McDonald<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 06, 2004 =
12:17=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> w3c-dist-auth@w3.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Strange =
Problems=20
  (Davenport)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My apologies, as I am =
not entirely=20
  sure this question belongs here.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am quite new to =
WebDAV, and have=20
  run into a few problems.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been staring at this =
particular problem=20
  for quite some time, and am hoping I can get a fresh set of eyes to =
have a=20
  look.&nbsp; Basically, when I attempt to open a web folder (using=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Davenport</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> as the=20
  DAV server), I get the message &#8216;Internet Explorer could not open =
&#8230;Would you=20
  like to use the default view instead?&#8217;.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have tried a slew of =
changes to=20
  the </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Davenport</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> source=20
  code with varying degrees of success.&nbsp; In this example, the =
&#8216;shares&#8217;=20
  share will not display properly in a Web Folder view.&nbsp; If I =
attempt to=20
  view a subdirectory as a Web Folder however, the subdirectory will =
display=20
  properly in Web Folders view.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am using Windows XP =
with IE6=20
  (both fully patched) for the DAV client.&nbsp; See the listing below =
for the=20
  request/response.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">PROPFIND=20
  /davenport/server/shares HTTP/1.1</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">Content-Language:=20
  en-us</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Accept-Language: =

  en-us</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Content-Type:=20
  text/xml</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Translate:=20
  f</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Depth: =
0</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Content-Length:=20
  0</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">User-Agent: =
Microsoft Data=20
  Access Internet Publishing Provider DAV</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Host:=20
  host</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Connection:=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">HTTP/1.1 207 =
Multi=20
  Status</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Date: =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Fri, 06 Feb=20
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Server: =
Jetty/4.2.14=20
  (Windows 2000/5.0 x86 java/1.4.2_03)</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Content-Length:=20
  826</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Content-Type: =
text/xml;=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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New'"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">&lt;?xml =
version=3D"1.0"=20
  encoding=3D"UTF-8"?&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;multistatus xmlns=3D"DAV:"=20
  =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:uuid:c2f41010-65b3-11d1-a29f-00aa00c14882/"&gt;</SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;response&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  =
&lt;href&gt;http://host/davenport/server/shares&lt;/href&gt;</SPAN></FONT=
></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &lt;propstat&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &lt;status&gt;HTTP/1.1 200 =
MultiStatus&lt;/status&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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&lt;getcontenttype&gt;httpd/unix-directory&lt;/getcontenttype&gt;</SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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w:dt=3D"boolean"&gt;1&lt;/iscollection&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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New"=20
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New'">01 Jan=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">00:00:00</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">=20
  GMT&lt;/getlastmodified&gt;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> Here's another idea.  What if we made locking required in the next
> version of WebDAV?  Servers that support RFC2518 can always claim 
> support for RFC2518 without changes but most servers support locking
> anyway and wouldn't find this difficult.  For clients of course it's
> no change at all.  Then WebDAV core would have almost no options.

I think *that's' a bad idea. There are lots of servers that do not allow 
locking, or that do allow locking, but not on all resources.  Let's make 
things simpler, not more complicated.

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Lisa Dusseault wrote:

> Well one nit is that Multistatus is usually 207, not 200, as in the body.
> ...

The status *inside* the body correctly is a 200, it's just mislabeled as 
"multistatus" (that should be irrelevant, only the numeric code matters).

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I agree with Julian.  Implementing locking properly is not a trivial
task, and there will always be fine-grained resources for which locking
is not appropriate on a server that supports locking.  Interoperable
clients need to understand that locking may not be provided on all
servers, or on all resources on a server.

Cheers,
Geoff

Julian wrote on 02/07/2004 03:31:56 AM:

> Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> > Here's another idea.  What if we made locking required in the next
> > version of WebDAV?  Servers that support RFC2518 can always claim 
> > support for RFC2518 without changes but most servers support locking
> > anyway and wouldn't find this difficult.  For clients of course it's
> > no change at all.  Then WebDAV core would have almost no options.
> 
> I think *that's' a bad idea. There are lots of servers that do not allow 

> locking, or that do allow locking, but not on all resources.  Let's make 

> things simpler, not more complicated.



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Just an FYI for anyone interested...

=20

I worked through this problem with the help of the jCIFS list.  We
identified a couple potential problem areas, so I updated Davenport with
some suggestions there:

=20

I made the following updates to Davenport as per Julian's suggestions =
(on
the jCIFS list):

- Removed Microsoft proprietary properties.

- Does not return unknown timestamps (0 value)

- Does not return unknown eTags.

- Does not return a content length (where the resource is a Share)

=20

These changes allow the web folder to open properly in my XP client.  It =
was
in fact the getcontentlength property that 'broke' the client.

=20

Thanks for your help.

=20

Mike

=20

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From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org] =
On
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To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
Subject: Strange Problems (Davenport)

=20

My apologies, as I am not entirely sure this question belongs here.

=20

I am quite new to WebDAV, and have run into a few problems.  I've been
staring at this particular problem for quite some time, and am hoping I =
can
get a fresh set of eyes to have a look.  Basically, when I attempt to =
open a
web folder (using Davenport as the DAV server), I get the message =
'Internet
Explorer could not open .Would you like to use the default view =
instead?'.

=20

I have tried a slew of changes to the Davenport source code with varying
degrees of success.  In this example, the 'shares' share will not =
display
properly in a Web Folder view.  If I attempt to view a subdirectory as a =
Web
Folder however, the subdirectory will display properly in Web Folders =
view.

=20

I am using Windows XP with IE6 (both fully patched) for the DAV client.  =
See
the listing below for the request/response.

=20

=20

PROPFIND /davenport/server/shares HTTP/1.1

Content-Language: en-us

Accept-Language: en-us

Content-Type: text/xml

Translate: f

Depth: 0

Content-Length: 0

User-Agent: Microsoft Data Access Internet Publishing Provider DAV

Host: host

Connection: Keep-Alive

=20

=20

=20

HTTP/1.1 207 Multi Status

Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:57:25 GMT

Server: Jetty/4.2.14 (Windows 2000/5.0 x86 java/1.4.2_03)

Content-Length: 826

Content-Type: text/xml; charset=3D"utf-8"

=20

<?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>

    <multistatus xmlns=3D"DAV:"
xmlns:w=3D"urn:uuid:c2f41010-65b3-11d1-a29f-00aa00c14882/">

        <response>

            <href>http://host/davenport/server/shares</href>

            <propstat>

                <status>HTTP/1.1 200 MultiStatus</status>

                <prop>

                    =
<getcontenttype>httpd/unix-directory</getcontenttype>

                    <ishidden w:dt=3D"boolean">0</ishidden>

                    <iscollection w:dt=3D"boolean">1</iscollection>

                    <resourcetype><collection/></resourcetype>

                    <getlastmodified w:dt=3D"dateTime.rfc1123">Thu, 01 =
Jan
1970 00:00:00 GMT</getlastmodified>

                    <displayname>shares/</displayname>

                    <creationdate
w:dt=3D"dateTime.tz">1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z</creationdate>

                    <isreadonly w:dt=3D"boolean">1</isreadonly>

                    <getcontentlength
w:dt=3D"int">98626961408</getcontentlength>

                    =
<getetag>"195a6053b85db823650312a6f1705da6"</getetag>

                </prop>

            </propstat>

        </response>

    </multistatus>

=20

=20

Thanks,

=20

Mike

=20


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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Just an FYI for =
anyone
interested...</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I worked through =
this
problem with the help of the jCIFS list.&nbsp; We identified a couple =
potential
problem areas, so I updated </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
  style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Davenport</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
with some suggestions there:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I made the =
following updates
to </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:"Courier New"'>Davenport</span></font><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> as
per Julian's suggestions (on the jCIFS list):</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>- Removed Microsoft
proprietary properties.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>- Does not return =
unknown
timestamps (0 value)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>- Does not return =
unknown eTags.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>- Does not return a =
content
length (where the resource is a Share)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>These changes allow =
the web
folder to open properly in my XP client.&nbsp; It was in fact the =
getcontentlength
property that 'broke' the client.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks for your =
help.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Mike</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Mike McDonald<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font =
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday,
 February 06, 2004</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font
 size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>4:17 PM</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
w3c-dist-auth@w3.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Strange Problems =
(</span></font><font
  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Davenport</span></font><fon=
t
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My apologies, as I am not =
entirely
sure this question belongs here.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am quite new to WebDAV, =
and have
run into a few problems.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been staring at this =
particular
problem for quite some time, and am hoping I can get a fresh set of eyes =
to
have a look.&nbsp; Basically, when I attempt to open a web folder (using =
</span></font><font
  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Davenport</span></font><font=

size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> as the DAV
server), I get the message &#8216;Internet Explorer could not open =
&#8230;Would
you like to use the default view instead?&#8217;.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have tried a slew of =
changes to
the </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>Davenport</span></font><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> source code with varying =
degrees of
success.&nbsp; In this example, the &#8216;shares&#8217; share will not =
display
properly in a Web Folder view.&nbsp; If I attempt to view a subdirectory =
as a
Web Folder however, the subdirectory will display properly in Web =
Folders view.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am using Windows XP with =
IE6 (both
fully patched) for the DAV client.&nbsp; See the listing below for the
request/response.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>PROPFIND
/davenport/server/shares HTTP/1.1</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Language:
en-us</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Accept-Language:
en-us</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Type:
text/xml</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Translate:
f</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Depth:
0</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Length:
0</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>User-Agent:
Microsoft Data Access Internet Publishing Provider DAV</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Host:
host</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Connection:
Keep-Alive</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>HTTP/1.1
207 Multi Status</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Date:
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:"Courier New"'>Fri, 06 Feb 2004</span></font><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> =
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>15:57:25
 GMT</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Server:
Jetty/4.2.14 (Windows 2000/5.0 x86 java/1.4.2_03)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Length:
826</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Content-Type:
text/xml; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&lt;?xml
version=3D&quot;1.0&quot; =
encoding=3D&quot;UTF-8&quot;?&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;multistatus xmlns=3D&quot;DAV:&quot;
xmlns:w=3D&quot;urn:uuid:c2f41010-65b3-11d1-a29f-00aa00c14882/&quot;&gt;<=
/span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;response&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;href&gt;http://host/davenport/server/shares&lt;/href&gt;</span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;propstat&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;status&gt;HTTP/1.1 200 MultiStatus&lt;/status&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;prop&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getcontenttype&gt;httpd/unix-directory&lt;/getcontenttype&gt;</span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;ishidden =
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;0&lt;/ishidden&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;iscollection =
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;1&lt;/iscollection&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;resourcetype&gt;&lt;collection/&gt;&lt;/resourcetype&gt;</span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;getlastmodified
w:dt=3D&quot;dateTime.rfc1123&quot;&gt;Thu, </span></font><font
 size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>01
 Jan 1970</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>00:00:00</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
GMT&lt;/getlastmodified&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;displayname&gt;shares/&lt;/displayname&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;creationdate
w:dt=3D&quot;dateTime.tz&quot;&gt;1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z&lt;/creationda=
te&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;isreadonly
w:dt=3D&quot;boolean&quot;&gt;1&lt;/isreadonly&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getcontentlength =
w:dt=3D&quot;int&quot;&gt;98626961408&lt;/getcontentlength&gt;</span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;getetag&gt;&quot;195a6053b85db823650312a6f1705da6&quot;&lt;/getetag&g=
t;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;/prop&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;/propstat&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/response&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2
face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&lt;/multistatus&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mike</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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Mike McDonald wrote:

> Just an FYI for anyone interested...
> 
>  
> 
> I worked through this problem with the help of the jCIFS list.  We 
> identified a couple potential problem areas, so I updated Davenport with 
> some suggestions there:
> 
>  
> 
> I made the following updates to Davenport as per Julian's suggestions 
> (on the jCIFS list):
> 
> - Removed Microsoft proprietary properties.
> 
> - Does not return unknown timestamps (0 value)
> 
> - Does not return unknown eTags.
> 
> - Does not return a content length (where the resource is a Share)
> 
>  
> 
> These changes allow the web folder to open properly in my XP client.  It 
> was in fact the getcontentlength property that 'broke' the client.

Great.

> Thanks for your help.

And thanks for the nice servlet!

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Hi,

a new draft is available: 
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-06.txt>

Main changes are:

B.6 Since 'draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-05'

    Added proposal for DAV:basicsearch operators for array-typed
    properties. Update all references.

Edits continue on

<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-latest.html>

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Is there an opensource version of webdav somewhere out there with versioning
that works?
Prefereably with Apache 1.3.29 over SSL?




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Slide supports basic DeltaV, and can be found at 
http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/index.html.

Chris.
On Feb 17, 2004, at 7:40 AM, Charlie Smith wrote:

>
> Is there an opensource version of webdav somewhere out there with 
> versioning
> that works?
> Prefereably with Apache 1.3.29 over SSL?
>
>



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Charlie Smith said  on 2/17/2004 7:40:

> Is there an opensource version of webdav somewhere out there with versioning
> that works?
> Prefereably with Apache 1.3.29 over SSL?
> 
Catacomb http://www.webdav.org/catacomb/
Runs with Apache2.

-Joe



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I would like to announce a WebDAV administration plugin for eclipse. 
It is called WebDAVPilot and runs as a plugin for eclipse 3.0M6. The 
usage is free. Following features are included:

*  WebDAV Navigator View: Tree view of a repository
* Display the standard WebDAV Properties in the eclipse Property View
* Property Editor: Editor for all DAV Properties
* Text Editor: Content editor
* XML Editor
* View for resource ACLs with edit support
* Version history view
* Compare current version with history version (Visual-Diffs)
* Restore version from the history
* Creation und Deletion of repository resources
* Renaming of resources
* Copy/Cut/Paste of resources in the navigator
* Image Viewer

The download link can be found here:
http://www.s-und-n.de/sunshine/ccos/produkte/english/webdavpilot

I would be thankful to get comments. Please feel free to email me.

Regards

-- 
Martin Dulisch
Open Source Group, S&N AG
mdulisch@s-und-n.de




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Good Evening,

Just wanted to say Hi to the group.  Trying to learn more about Webdav.

Steven Pierce
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714-841-9246



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Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to retrieve
files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client application
- word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type of
interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?




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Charlie Smith wrote:
> Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to retrieve
> files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client application
> - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type of
> interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?
> 
> 


there will be ... in one week!

worked on it for my bacc.work on university - now I have to join the 
code with the CVS from Group-Office (group-office.sf.net) ... so, if you 
are patient, you can see it in less than one week!

If you can't wait, I can give you an account on the test-server for now...

regards, mike



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I'd like to see ASAP.  I've several managers wanting to see this type of thing.

>>> "Michael Borko" <michael.borko@tgm.ac.at> 2/24/2004 11:29:23 AM >>>

Charlie Smith wrote:
> Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to
retrieve
> files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client
application
> - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type
of
> interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?
> 
> 


there will be ... in one week!

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code with the CVS from Group-Office (group-office.sf.net) ... so, if you 
are patient, you can see it in less than one week!

If you can't wait, I can give you an account on the test-server for now...

regards, mike





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Charlie Smith wrote:
> Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to retrieve
> files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client application
> - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type of
> interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?

I'm not sure about what you're looking for. If you use MS Office, you 
can open/modiffy/write back resources on a WebDAV server out of the box. 
If the server happens to support DeltaV and autoversioning, this will 
work automatically as well.

For OpenOffice, there may be a few issues with autoversioning DeltaV 
servers, as (last time I checked), OpenOffice does not lock resources...

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Is the same true of WordPerfect files? PDF files? and other MS applications?

>>> "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de> 2/24/2004 12:10:25 PM >>>
Charlie Smith wrote:
> Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to
retrieve
> files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client
application
> - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type
of
> interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?

I'm not sure about what you're looking for. If you use MS Office, you 
can open/modiffy/write back resources on a WebDAV server out of the box. 
If the server happens to support DeltaV and autoversioning, this will 
work automatically as well.

For OpenOffice, there may be a few issues with autoversioning DeltaV 
servers, as (last time I checked), OpenOffice does not lock resources...

Julian

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Charlie Smith wrote:

> Is the same true of WordPerfect files? PDF files? and other MS applications?

I know for sure for MS Office and OpenOffice.

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Michael,

I am interested in seeing it also, as soon as it is released.  I am
not in a rush for it, so when you have it out is fine.

Thank you.

> 
> Charlie Smith wrote:
> > Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav 
to retrieve
> > files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a 
client application
> > - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with 
same type of
> > interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> there will be ... in one week!
> 
> worked on it for my bacc.work on university - now I have to join the 
> code with the CVS from Group-Office (group-office.sf.net) ... so, if 
you 
> are patient, you can see it in less than one week!
> 
> If you can't wait, I can give you an account on the test-server for 
now...
> 
> regards, mike
> 
> 
> 

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"Charlie Smith" <SmithCW@ldschurch.org> schrieb:
> Is there available anywhere an open source example of using webdav to retrieve
> files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using a client application
> - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these files with same type of
> interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?
Interesting question. At the moment I can mount a WebDAV server as a filesystem,
can copy from to and create versions and baselines on the server.
(Using an Oberon client together with an Oberon server so it's probably not very
interesting for you)
The question is whether we really want to get and save seamlessly all the time.
Suppose you edit a big file, change just a couple of lines and save it again.
If you have a low bandwidth connection this will take a lot of time.
In this case the client should be intelligent enough to send a diff.
Is there a standard way a client and server could do that ?
Because that would be my next action point then :-)
Also if you want versioning you need at least an extended interface in your client.

Cheers, Edgar




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Adobe has a different approach in its client software, which is 
WebDAV-aware.  The "Save" and "Save as" operations prompt the user
to save locally.  It's the operations for sharing with a workgroup
that "publish" the document to a WebDAV repository.  This is key
for ease of working with large documents like Photoshop files :)

lisa

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> "Charlie Smith" <SmithCW@ldschurch.org> schrieb:
> > Is there available anywhere an open source example of using 
> webdav to retrieve
> > files through a browser and seemlessly work with them using 
> a client application
> > - word perfect or ms word.  Then, be able to save these 
> files with same type of
> > interface one would experience as if saving to local disk?
> Interesting question. At the moment I can mount a WebDAV 
> server as a filesystem,
> can copy from to and create versions and baselines on the server.
> (Using an Oberon client together with an Oberon server so 
> it's probably not very
> interesting for you)
> The question is whether we really want to get and save 
> seamlessly all the time.
> Suppose you edit a big file, change just a couple of lines 
> and save it again.
> If you have a low bandwidth connection this will take a lot of time.
> In this case the client should be intelligent enough to send a diff.
> Is there a standard way a client and server could do that ?
> Because that would be my next action point then :-)
> Also if you want versioning you need at least an extended 
> interface in your client.
> 
> Cheers, Edgar
> 
> 



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Status report for WebDAV Internet Drafts

(as seen by Julian Reschke; sorted by priority)


1) WebDAV Access Control Protocol (draft-ietf-webdav-acl)

Latest version: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-acl-latest.html>
Current Internet Draft: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-acl-13.html>
Issues list: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-acl-issues.html>

This draft is on the RFC Editor queue and is expected to become an RFC 
sometime in March. Note that the "latest" version contains some minor 
editorial corrections that will be integrated into the final RFC text.


2) Binding Extensions to Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning 
(WebDAV) (draft-ietf-webdav-bind)

Latest version: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-latest.html>
Current Internet Draft: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-03.html>
Issues List: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-issues.html>

This document is (and has been for some time) close to "last call". The 
only open recorded issue is error marshalling for Depth:infinity 
operations when there is a bind loop. Current proposal addresses this 
case, but can't be implemented if the server streams PROPFIND results to 
the client.

There's also an ongoing discussion about whether RFC2518 needs to be 
clarified regarding how bindings and locking interact (see mailing list 
messages in December 2003 and January 2004).

Goal: get to last call in 2004Q2.


3) Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) Redirect Reference 
Resources (draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol)

Latest version: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol-latest.html>
Current Internet Draft: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol-07.html>
Issues List: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol-issues.html>

The main issues here are marshalling changes for the distinction between 
the various redirect types (301, 302...), and also some tricky problems 
concerning compatibility with non-redirect-aware clients.

Goal: get to last call in 2004Q2.


4) WebDAV SEARCH (draft-reschke-webdav-search)

Latest versions: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-search-latest.html>
Current Internet Draft: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-search-06.html>
Issue List: 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-search-issues.html>

Main issues are editorial work (rewrite of error marshalling based on 
RFC3253), and how DAV:basicsearch needs to interact with typed properties.


-- 
<green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760



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