Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:53:41 -0700

Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate addresses/domains to
test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T

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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:07:02 -0400

Tim,

You’re welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp: 

Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is valid), but it should be properly formatted.

I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct: reply.  I’m happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular response.

Paul

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate addresses/domains to test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T

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From: Eric Mill <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 22:12:32 -0400

This is making me want to set up my own. Paul, I can't seem to find yours?
404 at:

http://packetizer.com/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]

-- Eric

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>wrote:

> Tim,****
>
> ** **
>
> You’re welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp: ***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is valid), but it
> should be properly formatted.****
>
> ** **
>
> I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct:
> reply.  I’m happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular
> response.****
>
> ** **
>
> Paul****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
>
> ** **
>
> test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T****
>
> _______________________________________________
> webfinger mailing list
> [email-masked]
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>
>

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From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:35:10 -0700

You have to use https not http -T

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Eric Mill <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> You’re welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp: **
>> **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate addresses/domains
>> to test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T****
>>

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From: Evan Prodromou <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 03:06:56 -0400

On 13-07-14 05:53 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
> Working on some WF code... looking for some candidate 
> addresses/domains to test JRD wrangling.  Suggestions? -T
All pump.io accounts have Webfingers.

https://identi.ca/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]

-Evan

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From: Nick Jennings <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:01:28 +0200

You're welcome to test me email address as well.

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From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:34:24 -0700

Got an OpenID Connect provider? rel=
http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer

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From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:37:05 -0700

538> curl '
http://silverbucket.net/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]
'
curl: (7) couldn't connect to host

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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:49:56 -0400

I don't. Perhaps Mike Jones can direct you to somewhere?

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From: Mike Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:33:36 +0000

See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.

                                                            -- Mike

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Got an OpenID Connect provider? rel=http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
Tim,

Paul

From: [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]> [mailto:[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
To: [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>
Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

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From: Mike Jones <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 05:51:39 +0000

Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery please post specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim could use for testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?

                                                            Thanks all,
                                                            -- Mike

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

                                                            -- Mike

From: [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]> [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

You're welcome to test my addresses, including mailto: / acct: / xmpp:

I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct: reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular response.

Paul

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From: Nick Jennings <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:00:32 +0200

> curl: (7) couldn't connect to host

Hi Tim, thanks for the heads up. I'm running the dev branch of haproxy and
it's not quite stable yet :) restarted, should all work now.

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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:25:10 -0400

Edmund,

Note that we removed the “expires” header from the current WebFinger spec.  It’s OK to have it there, but it should be ignored by recipients.

Paul

From: Edmund Jay [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:15 PM
To: [email-masked]; Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

The following can be used : 

[email-masked] or

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

  _____  

From: Mike Jones <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>; Tim Bray <[email-masked]>; Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:51 PM
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

                                                            -- Mike

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]> wrote:

Tim,

Paul

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From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:37:04 -0700

Hm?  You mean the HTTP Expires header?  Why should recipients act in a
non-HTTP-standard way?  I don’t think we’re allowed to rewrite HTTP rules.
-T

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>wrote:

> Edmund,****
>
> ** **
>
> Note that we removed the “expires” header from the current WebFinger
> spec.  It’s OK to have it there, but it should be ignored by recipients.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Paul****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Edmund Jay [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 2:15 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]; Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
>
> ** **
>
> The following can be used : ****
>
>  ****
>
> [email-masked] or****
>
> [email-masked]****
>
> ** **
>
> -- Edmund****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Mike Jones <[email-masked]>
> *To:* "[email-masked]" <
> [email-masked]>; Tim Bray <[email-masked]>;
> Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:51 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
>
> ** **
>
> Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery please post
> specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim could use for
> testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?****
>
>  ****
>
>                                                             Thanks all,***
> *
>
>                                                             -- Mike****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email-masked] [
> mailto:[email-masked]<[email-masked]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:34 PM
> *To:* Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
>
>  ****
>
> See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID
> providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.****
>
>  ****
>
>                                                             -- Mike****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]<[email-masked]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
> *To:* Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs****
>
>  ****
>
> http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer****
>
>  ****
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>
> wrote:****
>
> Tim,****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>  ****
>  ****
>  ****
>  ****
>  ****
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:46:48 -0400

Sorry… I meant the “expires” member of the JRD returned has been removed.  Obviously, we cannot remove the HTTP header ;-)

Paul

From: Tim Bray [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:37 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: Edmund Jay; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Hm?  You mean the HTTP Expires header?  Why should recipients act in a non-HTTP-standard way?  I don’t think we’re allowed to rewrite HTTP rules.  -T

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]> wrote:

Edmund,

Paul

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

  _____  

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

                                                            -- Mike

Tim,

Paul

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From: Tim Bray <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:49:11 -0700

Thanks for the JRDs, the discovery bit seems to work fine.  -T

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Roland Hedberg
<[email-masked]>wrote:

> 21 jul 2013 kl. 07:51 skrev Mike Jones <[email-masked]>:
>
> testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?
>
> [email-masked]
>
> -- Roland
> "Education is the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty.” -
> Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
> --

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From: Edmund Jay <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT)

-- Edmund

________________________________

 
                                                            Thanks all,
                                                            -- Mike
 
From:[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
 
See
http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.
 
                                                            -- Mike
 
From:[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 

 
Paul
 
From:[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

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From: Edmund Jay <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT)

Paul,

Thank you  for pointing that out. Header removed.

-- Edmund

________________________________
 From: Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>
To: 'Edmund Jay' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; 'Tim Bray' <[email-masked]> 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Edmund,

Paul
 
From:Edmund Jay [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:15 PM
To: [email-masked]; Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

 
-- Edmund

From:Mike Jones <[email-masked]>

                                                            Thanks all,
                                                            -- Mike

 
                                                            -- Mike

 

 
 
Paul

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From: Roland Hedberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:29:09 +0200

-- Roland
"Education is the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty.” - Mark Twain

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From: Javier Rojas Blum <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:50:52 -0400

acct:[email-masked]
acct:[email-masked]

-- Javier

On 07/22/2013 02:14 PM, Edmund Jay wrote:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *To:* "[email-masked]" 
> <[email-masked]>; Tim Bray 
> <[email-masked]>; Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
>
> specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim could use 
> for testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?
> Thanks all,
> -- Mike
> *From:[email-masked] 
> [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones
> *Subject:* RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
> See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of 
> OpenID providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.
> -- Mike
> *From:[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]> 
> [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *Cc:* [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
> Got an OpenID Connect provider? 
> rel=http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer
> I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the 
> acct: reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you want to check a 
> particular response.
> Paul
> *From:[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]> 
> [mailto:[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>] *On Behalf Of *Tim Bray
> *To:* [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [webfinger] Looking for JRDs
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:54:04 -0400

I get a 200 OK when I query, but the message body appears to be empty.

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Javier Rojas Blum
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:51 PM
To: Edmund Jay
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; Tim Bray;
Paul E. Jones
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

-- Javier

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

  _____  

From: Mike Jones  <mailto:[email-masked]>
<[email-masked]>
To:  <mailto:[email-masked]>
"[email-masked]"
<mailto:[email-masked]>
<[email-masked]>; Tim Bray
<mailto:[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>; Paul E. Jones
<mailto:[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> 
Cc:  <mailto:[email-masked]> "[email-masked]"
<mailto:[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:51 PM
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:34 PM
To: Tim Bray; Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list of OpenID
providers, most of which implement Discovery, including WebFinger.

                                                            -- Mike

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

wrote:

Tim,

Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is valid), but it
should be properly formatted.

I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in the acct:
reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you want to check a particular
response.

Paul

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Tim Bray
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

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From: Javier Rojas Blum <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:42 -0400

Please try this: 
https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer

Regards

-- Javier

On 07/23/2013 03:54 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
> *From:[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] 
> *On Behalf Of *Javier Rojas Blum
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:51 PM
> *To:* Edmund Jay
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]; Tim 
> Bray; Paul E. Jones
> acct:[email-masked] <mailto:acct:[email-masked]>
> acct:[email-masked] <mailto:acct:[email-masked]>
>
> -- Javier
>
>
>     [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]> or
>
>     [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
>
>     -- Edmund
>
>     *From:*Mike Jones <[email-masked]>
>     <mailto:[email-masked]>
>     <[email-masked]>
>     <mailto:[email-masked]>; Tim Bray
>     <[email-masked]> <mailto:[email-masked]>; Paul E.
>     Jones <[email-masked]> <mailto:[email-masked]>
>     *Cc:* "[email-masked]" <mailto:[email-masked]>
>     <[email-masked]> <mailto:[email-masked]>
>     Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery please
>     post specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax that Tim
>     could use for testing e-mail based discovery using WebFinger?
>
>     Thanks all,
>
>     -- Mike
>
>     *Cc:* [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>;
>     [email-masked]
>     On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Paul E. Jones
>     <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
>
>     Tim,
>
>     I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters in
>     the acct: reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you want to
>     check a particular response.
>
>     Paul
>
>     To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:24:54 -0400

That works, but why does it fail if the rel parameters is absent?  That
should not fail.

Paul

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Javier Rojas Blum
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:08 PM
To: Paul E. Jones
Cc: [email-masked]; 'Tim Bray'; [email-masked];
'Edmund Jay'
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Please try this:
https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]
rg
<https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked].
org&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer>
&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer

Regards

-- Javier

 

-- Javier

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

  _____  

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

                                                            -- Mike

Tim,

Paul

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From: Javier Rojas Blum <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:50:53 -0400

Fixed now.

Thanks

-- Javier

On 07/23/2013 04:24 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>
> That works, but why does it fail if the rel parameters is absent?  
> That should not fail.
>
> Paul
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:08 PM
> *To:* Paul E. Jones
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; 'Tim Bray'; 
> [email-masked]; 'Edmund Jay'
>     [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Javier Rojas Blum
>     <mailto:[email-masked]>; Tim Bray; Paul
>     E. Jones
>         Could those of you with OpenID OPs that support discovery
>         please post specific identifiers using e-mail address syntax
>         that Tim could use for testing e-mail based discovery using
>         WebFinger?
>
>         Thanks all,
>
>         -- Mike
>
>         See http://osis.idcommons.net/wiki/Category:OC5_OP for a list
>         of OpenID providers, most of which implement Discovery,
>         including WebFinger.
>
>         -- Mike
>
>         Most of what is returned is just test data (though some is
>         valid), but it should be properly formatted.
>
>         I have aliases, properties, titles, and non-ASCII characters
>         in the acct: reply.  I'm happy to throw something in if you
>         want to check a particular response.
>
>         Paul
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:30:56 -0400

Verified!

Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:51 PM

Fixed now.

Thanks

-- Javier

Paul

Please try this:

Regards

-- Javier

 

-- Javier

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

  _____  

                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

                                                            -- Mike

Tim,

Paul

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From: Melvin Carvalho <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:58:22 +0200

> https://seed.gluu.org/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]&rel=http%3A%2F%2Fopenid.net%2Fspecs%2Fconnect%2F1.0%2Fissuer

I'm seeing a lot of global keys ("rel" parameters) that are not in the
official registry:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml

e.g. evan's "favourites" "lists", nick's "auth-endpoint", paul's "test" and
quite a few more -- it seems something of a free for all, how are clients
supposed to interpret these?

some of these links do not resolve anywhere such as :
http://schemas.google.com/g/2010%23updates-from

others such as "http://packetizer.com/rel/blog" seem to be creating
existing concepts -- would it not be better to reuse things long standing
dictionaries such foaf, schema.org, sioc, open graph protocol etc.

>  I get a 200 OK when I query, but the message body appears to be empty.***
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> On 07/22/2013 02:14 PM, Edmund Jay wrote:****
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From: Nick Jennings <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:12:57 +0200

> it's not quite stable yet :) restarted, should all work now.
Oh, and that should be 'https'

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From: Melvin Carvalho <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:55:50 +0200

>     https://identi.ca/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct:[email-masked]

There's a slight naming clash with "follows".  Of course in the social web
we naturally think of twitter followers, but I've seen this used in some
instances for things like 'Thursday' follows 'Wednesday' etc.

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From: "Paul E. Jones" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:55:24 -0400

Melvin,

Ideally, new values would be registered with IANA.  That ought to come in
the form of an RFC to fully explain their purpose so that there is no
misunderstanding as to the intent of any particular "rel" value.

The "blog" one I assigned under the packetizer.com domain was done since
there wasn't one (AFAIK) that meant precisely the same thing.  I expect some
non-registered values will conflict with other non-registered values.
That's OK.  People build products and need an identifier.  We see this with
every protocol.  Once there is a certain amount of momentum for it and/or
people feel a "rel" ought to be registered because it has wide
applicability, then definitely register a value.

Paul

From: Melvin Carvalho [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:58 PM
To: Javier Rojas Blum
Cc: Paul E. Jones; webfinger; Tim Bray;
[email-masked]; Edmund Jay
Subject: Re: [webfinger] Looking for JRDs

Please try this:

others such as "http://packetizer.com/rel/blog" seem to be creating existing
concepts -- would it not be better to reuse things long standing
dictionaries such foaf, schema.org, sioc, open graph protocol etc.

Regards

-- Javier

 

-- Javier

[email-masked]

-- Edmund

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                                                            Thanks all,

                                                            -- Mike

                                                            -- Mike

Tim,

Paul

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From: Melvin Carvalho <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:05:38 +0200

On 29 July 2013 05:55, Paul E. Jones <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Melvin,****
> misunderstanding as to the intent of any particular “rel” value.****
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> The “blog” one I assigned under the packetizer.com domain was done since
> there wasn’t one (AFAIK) that meant precisely the same thing.  I expect
> some non-registered values will conflict with other non-registered values.
> That’s OK.  People build products and need an identifier.  We see this with
> people feel a “rel” ought to be registered because it has wide

Regarding blog there's a few such as FOAF, DOAP, SIOC, Schema.org, vivo and
others.  I would think foaf : weblog is the most common (
http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/weblog )

Here's a handy tool for finding existing properties

http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/search/#s=blog

In a general sense, I would suggest best practice reusing where possible.
Otherwise create a new URL.  Only in a few cases, when you are sure there's
no clash or ambiguity to go for the registry route.

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> Paul****
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> *From:* Melvin Carvalho [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:58 PM
> *To:* Javier Rojas Blum
> *Cc:* Paul E. Jones; webfinger; Tim Bray;
> On 23 July 2013 22:07, Javier Rojas Blum <[email-masked]> wrote:****
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> Please try this:
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml****
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> e.g. evan's "favourites" "lists", nick's "auth-endpoint", paul's "test"
> and quite a few more -- it seems something of a free for all, how are
> clients supposed to interpret these?****
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> http://schemas.google.com/g/2010%23updates-from****
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> dictionaries such foaf, schema.org, sioc, open graph protocol etc.****
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> Regards
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> -- Javier****
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> On 07/23/2013 03:54 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:****
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> I get a 200 OK when I query, but the message body appears to be empty.****
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