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I uploaded the minutes from Thursday=92s session.=20 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/minutes/minutes-91-webpush Many thanks to Ben Campbell for taking notes.=20 Shida= From nobody Wed Nov 19 23:48:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webpush@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: webpush@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A4D1A00B8 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:48:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id irxp5xce7MIs for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D0CC1A00B1 for ; 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boundary=bcaec511dd5c204d810508458f2e Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/webpush/2mmaMkwsE3JiOXiPR1w0NO4c79s Subject: [Webpush] WebLink headers X-BeenThere: webpush@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of potential IETF work on a web push protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:48:54 -0000 --bcaec511dd5c204d810508458f2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, reading section 4 of the spec [1], I'm wondering what are the correct headers to be returned from a successful registration. The section has the following sentence: "These URIs are included in link relations [RFC5988] that are included in Link header fields in the response." I interpreted that as to mean that there would be two Link headers, one of type "...:push:monitor", and one of type "...:push:channel" in the response. But a few lines down in the same section it says: "The push server includes the "monitor" link relation in a Location header field." Is it correct that there should only be one Link header, and one Location header both containing a WebLink? For example: location: ;rel="push:monitor" link: ;rel="push:channel", One last question about the relation type in the spec. What do the dots in "...:push:monitor" represent? Is it that anything can be added there or does it mean that it has simply not been defined yet? Thanks, /Daniel [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-webpush-http2-01#section-4 --bcaec511dd5c204d810508458f2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0

reading section 4 of the spec= [1], I'm wondering what are the correct headers to be returned from a = successful registration. The section has the following sentence:
=
"These URIs are included in link relations [RFC5988] th= at are included in Link header fields in the response."

=
I interpreted that as to mean that there would be two Link heade= rs, one of type "...:push:monitor", and one of type "...:pus= h:channel" in the response.

But a few li= nes down in the same section it says:
"The push server inclu= des the "monitor" link relation in a Location header field."=

Is it correct that there should only be= one Link header, and one Location header both containing a WebLink? For ex= ample:
location: <webpush/registrationId/monitor>;rel= =3D"push:monitor"
link: <webpush/registrat= ionId/channel>;rel=3D"push:channel",=C2=A0

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One last question about the relation type in the spec. What do th= e dots in =C2=A0"...:push:monitor" represent? Is it that anything= can be added there or does it mean that it has simply not been defined yet= ?

Thanks,

/Daniel

--bcaec511dd5c204d810508458f2e-- From nobody Thu Nov 20 23:38:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: webpush@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: webpush@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B36D1AD23D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gWGIGSRSJnTN for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x231.google.com (mail-oi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E07F1AD26E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id i138so3220088oig.22 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yLdjxsqCd0ehbT2SLp4vhRGyXIH/aT7XjpxEqVgGsTk=; b=xDyT17lKBY3lB4Igmj6XAD1zxqRJYN4WVnF3Yoq3O9To311qq3fwlIiv1x3CceO/gV VFl/4yIO+KUd3CoU+xARkSwM83wXt4Pl0nQiYpTipGzi78Ts7LLEuyOH2pZHGX6+cyM4 HFOppOAqRLQRhJ52B0ER3Prv598ShfQ0oOklf4MDTu4KSc4qR99/Dfrr6evH7QeF1pIt KMccZII0IkVT1RAoG9LkKavhVSG74UxDHlBFvz8geO88guXkHFQMmIR5xYMm3PF7NM1O lmCeTcZlkrStY5XGT2ERvaP7f2mU4UsLAUTe2PuL+QuZZwdHEiD5+zb4ro8NbAUjtUE4 5R3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.102.159 with SMTP id m31mr918120oik.67.1416555521341; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.115.4 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:38:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:38:41 -1000 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: Daniel Bevenius Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/webpush/ExAwt9ULXQwzOHSSQxVWyv28EZE Cc: "webpush@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Webpush] WebLink headers X-BeenThere: webpush@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of potential IETF work on a web push protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:38:44 -0000 On 19 November 2014 21:48, Daniel Bevenius wrote: > But a few lines down in the same section it says: > "The push server includes the "monitor" link relation in a Location header > field." > > Is it correct that there should only be one Link header, and one Location > header both containing a WebLink? For example: > location: ;rel="push:monitor" > link: ;rel="push:channel", Two Link, one Location. Same URI in two places: location: webpush/registrationId/monitor link: ;rel="push:channel", ;rel="push:monitor", (The second link is optional I guess.) > One last question about the relation type in the spec. What do the dots in > "...:push:monitor" represent? Is it that anything can be added there or does > it mean that it has simply not been defined yet? Not defined yet. Registering a URN is a time-consuming process (mostly, it's just lots of typing, it's not hard). I was lazy.