From julian.reschke@gmx.de Thu Nov 1 02:56:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277C421F8529 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 02:56:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.216 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.216 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.917, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CU7-EVW+DVTb for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C98B21F8528 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2012 09:56:13 -0000 Received: from p5DD95FBD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.117]) [93.217.95.189] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 01 Nov 2012 10:56:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+KQ7ViAFKKU5M4SAWw9I9pKQtztQRTpqFXt09Ktm jgOLtbuuLbd4lH Message-ID: <50924735.5080605@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:56:05 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= References: <50900C24.1040303@wonderhamster.org> <50908224.70708@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <5090D95D.90606@gmx.de> <5092006B.1040808@it.aoyama.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <5092006B.1040808@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Problem with generated boilerplate for HTML output X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:56:16 -0000 On 2012-11-01 05:54, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: > ... > The name of the property may indeed be somewhat misleading. Fortunately, > there isno need to be overly sceptical. The spec says: > > nowrap > This value collapses white space as for 'normal', > but suppresses line breaks within text. > > It says "line breaks within text", not "line breaks at whitespace", so > it should be what we need. Testing with the attached file in the five > major browsers I have at hand here confirms this nicely. > ... Ack. That being said, as far as I can tell, the code in xml2rfc actually tries to do the reverse: make sure that the URI can be broken across lines in certain positions. Best regards, Julian From miekg@atoom.net Thu Nov 1 08:19:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A4421F8B38 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YTj3Ndf7echk for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elektron.atoom.net (elektron.atoom.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:32a::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAFB21F8B36 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elektron.atoom.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0A3BE3FF33; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:19:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:19:21 +0100 From: Miek Gieben To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list Message-ID: <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> Mail-Followup-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> User-Agent: Vim/Mutt/Linux X-Home: http://www.miek.nl Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:19:25 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "[xml2rfc] differences between v1 an..." ] > Hello, >=20 > I'm comparing the output of xml2rfc v1.36 with v2.3.5 (see > for yourself at:=20 > v1 version: miek.nl/downloads/draft.v1.txt > v2 version: miek.nl/downloads/draft.v2.txt >=20 > I like v2 as it is fast! The line numbers mentioned below are those > of draft.v2.txt. Just found at that there is a newer version of xml2rfc (version 2.3.9), =66rom http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc/2.3.9. Apparently xml.resource.org still lists 2.3.5 as the latest version. But the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see two differences: * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced in an "URIs" section: [1] This is completely missing in 2.3.9 * If you have a "", the following text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. Roman numerals works. Yeah! grtz Miek --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCSkvkACgkQJYuFzziA0Pa5fwCg5RAPo48ZAKwa6eU6AK9J4Zjc Kj0AoILSPK6mFOKPnG8Bmkdq3R+JXddN =u8yX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From miekg@atoom.net Thu Nov 1 08:19:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C73C21F8B53 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kz6PDK7vEg66 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7769321F8B4B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elektron.atoom.net (elektron.atoom.net [85.223.71.124]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA1FJRR8009096 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miekg@atoom.net) Received: by elektron.atoom.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0A3BE3FF33; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:19:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:19:21 +0100 From: Miek Gieben To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list Message-ID: <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> Mail-Followup-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> User-Agent: Vim/Mutt/Linux X-Home: http://www.miek.nl Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:19:48 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "[xml2rfc] differences between v1 an..." ] > Hello, >=20 > I'm comparing the output of xml2rfc v1.36 with v2.3.5 (see > for yourself at:=20 > v1 version: miek.nl/downloads/draft.v1.txt > v2 version: miek.nl/downloads/draft.v2.txt >=20 > I like v2 as it is fast! The line numbers mentioned below are those > of draft.v2.txt. Just found at that there is a newer version of xml2rfc (version 2.3.9), =66rom http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc/2.3.9. Apparently xml.resource.org still lists 2.3.5 as the latest version. But the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see two differences: * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced in an "URIs" section: [1] This is completely missing in 2.3.9 * If you have a "", the following text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. Roman numerals works. Yeah! grtz Miek --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCSkvkACgkQJYuFzziA0Pa5fwCg5RAPo48ZAKwa6eU6AK9J4Zjc Kj0AoILSPK6mFOKPnG8Bmkdq3R+JXddN =u8yX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Nov 1 16:25:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619C821F9803 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:25:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7c9z83EhPZS for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E2221F9802 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA1NP4uP028999 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stpeter@stpeter.im) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 840394012A for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:28:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:36:11 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:25:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm writing some text about handling of whitespace in a protocol, and I'd like to include inline examples with more than one space character in a row, e.g., a sentence that has "foo " with two spaces. In the txt output, the two space characters get reduced to one. Is there a way to control this in a element, or only in ? (It seems not, so I might simply remove the inline examples.) Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCS+VsACgkQNL8k5A2w/vx+FQCg8yfu8NB5EtaiOCFpo1WmFnIn +p0AoKRV9k7htdpGMpFNk9RgWl8cLyzK =CoyM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mcr@sandelman.ca Thu Nov 1 17:48:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A8221F9320 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aKW57KxmeaxA for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A9C21F8A4A for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.sandelman.ca (relay.cooperix.net [67.23.6.41]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA20mQwQ030617 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcr@sandelman.ca) Received: from sandelman.ca (wlan196.sandelman.ca [209.87.252.196]) by relay.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FFBC81AA; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (quigon.sandelman.ca [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5ABCA0BC; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:39:23 -0400 (EDT) To: Peter Saint-Andre In-reply-to: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> References: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> Comments: In-reply-to Peter Saint-Andre message dated "Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:36:11 -0600." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.3; nmh 1.3; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 22) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> From: Michael Richardson Cc: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:48:32 -0000 I think your protocol description would be clearer anyway if you used _ or something in place of the whitespace. -- Michael Richardson -on the road- From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Nov 1 17:57:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E53E21F9856 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:57:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eyCUr2-IBiBH for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AD421F9853 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA20vmTQ030979 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stpeter@stpeter.im) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BAD84011B; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:57:42 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Richardson References: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:57:51 -0000 On 11/1/12 6:39 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > I think your protocol description would be clearer anyway if you used _ > or something in place of the whitespace. Yeah, I think you're right. Peter From duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp Thu Nov 1 18:02:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C451E21F98B8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.24 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.24 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.550, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id guwq+pImroWu for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp [133.2.253.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D752C21F98B7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scmse01.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp ([133.2.253.231]) by scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (secret/secret) with SMTP id qA212d1m001690 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:02:39 +0900 Received: from (unknown [133.2.206.133]) by scmse01.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp with smtp id 4aa4_53a3_ffa211d4_2488_11e2_a48a_001d096c566a; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:02:39 +0900 Received: from [IPv6:::1] ([133.2.210.1]:44905) by itmail.it.aoyama.ac.jp with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for from ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:02:41 +0900 Message-ID: <50931BAA.30004@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:02:34 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiBKLiBEw7xyc3Qi?= Organization: Aoyama Gakuin University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <50900C24.1040303@wonderhamster.org> <50908224.70708@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <5090D95D.90606@gmx.de> <5092006B.1040808@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <50924735.5080605@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <50924735.5080605@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Problem with generated boilerplate for HTML output X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:02:51 -0000 On 2012/11/01 18:56, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-11-01 05:54, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: >> It says "line breaks within text", not "line breaks at whitespace", so >> it should be what we need. Testing with the attached file in the five >> major browsers I have at hand here confirms this nicely. >> ... > > Ack. > > That being said, as far as I can tell, the code in xml2rfc actually > tries to do the reverse: make sure that the URI can be broken across > lines in certain positions. Are you saying this based on other parts of the code? Or on how it worked previously? Or because that's what you think it should do? If the purpose is adding breakpoints, U+2060, which is explicitly a *non*-breaking space, is definitely the wrong thing to do. Something like U+200B, ZERO WIDTH SPACE, would be the way to go. But I still think using such characters is the wrong way to go, because it breaks copy-paste. Also, for HTML, I think introducing linebreaks in URIs/IRIs is not a good idea. For plaintext, that's different; there's simply no way to put an 80-char URI into a 72 column plaintext document. Regards, Martin. From ikanski@silentcircle.com Fri Nov 2 14:54:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D05E11E80F1 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:54:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cbeBGt7y8D7C for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.silentcircle.com (mail.silentcircle.com [IPv6:2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fedf:c526]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971911E80E1 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sc-1.home (pool-96-255-155-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.155.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.silentcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABF1D21C550 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Kanski Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9BA4CD5D-B8B0-4B4D-940E-715CF974FBB0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:54:43 -0400 Message-Id: <6AC8E3A2-8CDF-4645-AF6D-4F6C154E1B23@silentcircle.com> To: xml2rfc@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:05:18 -0700 Subject: [xml2rfc] Problem w/ ePub conversion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:56:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9BA4CD5D-B8B0-4B4D-940E-715CF974FBB0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FBF277C6-9FA4-46D5-AF78-0F1BB820DB8C" --Apple-Mail=_FBF277C6-9FA4-46D5-AF78-0F1BB820DB8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hello, We are experiencing the following error when attempting to convert our = xml RFC to an ePub. 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= --Apple-Mail=_FBF277C6-9FA4-46D5-AF78-0F1BB820DB8C-- --Apple-Mail=_9BA4CD5D-B8B0-4B4D-940E-715CF974FBB0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQlEEkAAoJEOdZPPcldMAuHdcH/27VnF4A4sd5aRmSN61ZqzGH ZJ6MXUM2vbm65B2EvjM2+m3sXhIYxU/NosyI516IoaChBNKl1UjZm52QXjGC5qtZ j0pw+f84jMhsf5ziZjuM5FxqrZhO73fX63NkKE1d5lT2tz5UVxz/KFjhPQ1EFW/0 j3npBhSLDBJCsWN3eiwQu2XoVPVMUdncmg7QBkOi7k7jNiIQbdoxT/UU4cpxSQQ1 5XIgNopgXJ1E6HDQtH9A6ZJnXdftoDNoBq+gg6Ys/RyrRQlHtC2wY98cyaeBTsff o4SMWkRHQktawpS9bTvJkEStLwp0g2Bj5LPlb7TA/3JtoUL41nn30NRzt6MeR+I= =MCKS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_9BA4CD5D-B8B0-4B4D-940E-715CF974FBB0-- From julian.reschke@gmx.de Sat Nov 3 06:01:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F6621F9C3F for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UQMF4vlfTlH for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6D021F9C3E for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id qA3D1GIX089241 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Nov 2012 13:01:10 -0000 Received: from p54BB3489.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.36]) [84.187.52.137] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 03 Nov 2012 14:01:10 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+EqiNB7ZKEptobd61YmKTh2rYCOidOLfSjtPa3AS B/0OyKi8uhILwk Message-ID: <50951592.2040206@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:01:06 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org, Michael Richardson Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:01:21 -0000 On 2012-11-02 01:57, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 11/1/12 6:39 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: >> I think your protocol description would be clearer anyway if you used _ >> or something in place of the whitespace. > > Yeah, I think you're right. > > Peter As a matter of fact, this is a case where non-ASCII characters (in the new format) might help (see for instance ). Best regards, Julian From stpeter@stpeter.im Sat Nov 3 20:12:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8265221F96B2 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:12:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.915 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.915 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.805, BAYES_05=-1.11, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49cDrfeQcbNP for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBBF21F962B for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA43C3IB007442 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stpeter@stpeter.im) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF1C34012A; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5095DD02.4080004@stpeter.im> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:12:02 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org References: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Richardson Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 03:12:06 -0000 On 11/1/12 6:57 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 11/1/12 6:39 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: >> I think your protocol description would be clearer anyway if you used _ >> or something in place of the whitespace. > > Yeah, I think you're right. I have learned from Alice Russo that you can use   to include multiple instances of ASCII space within a element in xml2rfc. Thanks, Alice! Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp Sun Nov 4 17:52:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB08821F8782 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.704 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.005, BAYES_50=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mhKHp0IOVKUo for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644A221F860D for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp [133.2.253.34]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA51q0Ts042147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:52:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp) Received: from scmse01.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp ([133.2.253.231]) by scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (secret/secret) with SMTP id qA51pscT026623 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:51:54 +0900 Received: from (unknown [133.2.206.133]) by scmse01.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp with smtp id 6e6c_15bd_60034836_26eb_11e2_adf7_001d096c566a; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:51:54 +0900 Received: from [IPv6:::1] ([133.2.210.1]:48849) by itmail.it.aoyama.ac.jp with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for from ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:51:55 +0900 Message-ID: <50971BB9.5070709@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:51:53 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiBKLiBEw7xyc3Qi?= Organization: Aoyama Gakuin University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <5092F95B.20707@stpeter.im> <29226.1351816763@sandelman.ca> <50931A86.3080408@stpeter.im> <50951592.2040206@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <50951592.2040206@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: xml2rfc@lists.xml.resource.org, Michael Richardson Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] whitespace handling X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 01:52:06 -0000 On 2012/11/03 22:01, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 11/1/12 6:39 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: >>> I think your protocol description would be clearer anyway if you used _ >>> or something in place of the whitespace. > As a matter of fact, this is a case where non-ASCII characters (in the > new format) might help (see for instance > ). Well, yes, up to the point where people want to copy/paste the example :-(. Regards, Martin. From miekg@atoom.net Wed Nov 7 00:31:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEE621F87E6 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EEdCDaBupQpk for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from elektron.atoom.net (elektron.atoom.net [85.223.71.124]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACDB21F87E3 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by elektron.atoom.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B21C13FF49; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:25 +0100 From: Miek Gieben To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list Message-ID: <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> Mail-Followup-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> User-Agent: Vim/Mutt/Linux X-Home: http://www.miek.nl Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:31:28 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..." ] > the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see > two differences: >=20 > * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced > in an "URIs" section: >=20 > [1] >=20 > This is completely missing in 2.3.9 >=20 > * If you have a "", the followi= ng > text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous > text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. And to add to that. Including a reference and *not* referencing it in v1, l= eads to an warning/error. In v2 is silently ignoring the reference. Regards, --=20 Miek Gieben http://miek.nl --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCaHF0ACgkQJYuFzziA0PapzQCg4Es38YWU2sDPy5NbrHgudtrB YYIAoL9TxBeGpO7UiJ1Lo66/2cuePNaM =TVcB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From miekg@atoom.net Wed Nov 7 00:31:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4398621F87F9 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MV88FIKdTtq1 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBE721F87EF for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from elektron.atoom.net (elektron.atoom.net [85.223.71.124]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA78VWph006870 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:31:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from miekg@atoom.net) Received: by elektron.atoom.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B21C13FF49; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:31:25 +0100 From: Miek Gieben To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list Message-ID: <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> Mail-Followup-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> User-Agent: Vim/Mutt/Linux X-Home: http://www.miek.nl Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:31:38 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..." ] > the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see > two differences: >=20 > * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced > in an "URIs" section: >=20 > [1] >=20 > This is completely missing in 2.3.9 >=20 > * If you have a "", the followi= ng > text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous > text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. And to add to that. Including a reference and *not* referencing it in v1, l= eads to an warning/error. In v2 is silently ignoring the reference. Regards, --=20 Miek Gieben http://miek.nl --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCaHF0ACgkQJYuFzziA0PapzQCg4Es38YWU2sDPy5NbrHgudtrB YYIAoL9TxBeGpO7UiJ1Lo66/2cuePNaM =TVcB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Nov 7 01:04:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116221F8740 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.636 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.636 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5p2G9y8kIcm for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AB8D21F8A6B for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2012 09:04:02 -0000 Received: from p5DD952D7.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.36]) [93.217.82.215] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2012 10:04:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19rC2hCSRVra9YcBzwyJeeC3YC01gNxRTCwPy2hDL 5cFKrAFRQYY8hp Message-ID: <509A23F9.1090107@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:03:53 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> In-Reply-To: <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:04:08 -0000 On 2012-11-07 09:31, Miek Gieben wrote: > [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..." ] >> the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see >> two differences: >> >> * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced >> in an "URIs" section: >> >> [1] >> >> This is completely missing in 2.3.9 >> >> * If you have a "", the following >> text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous >> text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. > > And to add to that. Including a reference and *not* referencing it in v1, leads > to an warning/error. In v2 is silently ignoring the reference. > > Regards, I don't think the developers are following this mailing list, so yo really should raise tickets over here: Best regards, Julian From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Nov 7 01:04:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6C621F8A6B for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.636 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.636 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SwrwZmgb-Qe8 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.public.resource.org (cyclone.public.resource.org [192.101.98.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3024C21F8836 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by cyclone.public.resource.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id qA794AYj007233 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Nov 2012 09:04:02 -0000 Received: from p5DD952D7.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.36]) [93.217.82.215] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 07 Nov 2012 10:04:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19rC2hCSRVra9YcBzwyJeeC3YC01gNxRTCwPy2hDL 5cFKrAFRQYY8hp Message-ID: <509A23F9.1090107@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:03:53 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> In-Reply-To: <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:04:16 -0000 On 2012-11-07 09:31, Miek Gieben wrote: > [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..." ] >> the good news: 2.3.9 looks very good in my tests. In fact I only see >> two differences: >> >> * In version 1, a link like "XML of xml2rfc [1]", will be referenced >> in an "URIs" section: >> >> [1] >> >> This is completely missing in 2.3.9 >> >> * If you have a "", the following >> text is put on a new line, but the position is dependent on the previous >> text. In v1 it is just indented 3 spaces. > > And to add to that. Including a reference and *not* referencing it in v1, leads > to an warning/error. In v2 is silently ignoring the reference. > > Regards, I don't think the developers are following this mailing list, so yo really should raise tickets over here: Best regards, Julian From miekg@atoom.net Wed Nov 7 01:10:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925C921F87EE for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:10:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.346 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.346 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.254, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QEpmkLgI4l6I for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from elektron.atoom.net (elektron.atoom.net [85.223.71.124]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D60D21F87EA for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:10:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by elektron.atoom.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9C0423FEE2; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:10:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:10:52 +0100 From: Miek Gieben To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list Message-ID: <20121107091052.GA28252@miek.nl> Mail-Followup-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, Xml2rfc list References: <20121030131054.GA8089@miek.nl> <20121101151921.GA3968@miek.nl> <20121107083125.GA15005@miek.nl> <509A23F9.1090107@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <509A23F9.1090107@gmx.de> User-Agent: Vim/Mutt/Linux X-Home: http://www.miek.nl Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v1 and v2 (of xml2rfc) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:10:56 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..= =2E" ] > I don't think the developers are following this mailing list, so yo > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/70 Regards, --=20 Miek Gieben http://miek.nl --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Quoting in "Re: [xml2rfc] differences between v..= =2E" ] > I don't think the developers are following this mailing list, so yo > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/70 Regards, --=20 Miek Gieben http://miek.nl --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCaJZwACgkQJYuFzziA0PYTtQCeOM/OQO/g6qFfouVmb5ijF52P S30AoNzIk5KjSkMSB86ELgHZ7RCErzpX =ud2G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From tony@att.com Wed Nov 7 13:40:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C5C21F8C45 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:40:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvoM-u6EiS-2 for ; 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boundary="------------030506040709090805040908" X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.128.153] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=Pd1IcFdd c=1 sm=0 a=xwOvzTHDVLE4u4nGvK72ag==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=Ubqm-UuOl1wA:10 a=1I5aD5_xVbAA:10 a=vcm83xNcspUA:10 a=ofM] X-AnalysisOut: [gfj31e3cA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=K4-0MPfG] X-AnalysisOut: [lwAA:10 a=rqrk_YMJAAAA:8 a=d1bIkCESuTcCNG3Y5WcA:9 a=wPNLvf] X-AnalysisOut: [GTeEIA:10 a=a0KLm1r6dzMA:10 a=7I3y2t0KAAAA:8 a=-ZibtvBw8jm] X-AnalysisOut: [8P2qPuO4A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=19OwxX2fG_4A:10 a=i-nhUQ2s] X-AnalysisOut: [Z8xT7HWy:21] Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Problem w/ ePub conversion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:40:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030506040709090805040908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/2/2012 5:54 PM, Ian Kanski wrote: > We are experiencing the following error when attempting to convert our > xml RFC to an ePub. Phil has made changes to his RFC6189 and has used > your site in the past (which he speaks of highly). Thank you for your > help! > > Error:Conversion error to epub > sh: ebook-convert: command not found With help from Henrik, this has been fixed for http://xml.resource.org. There is still a problem producing ePub from http://xml.resource.org/experimental.html, which is being worked. Tony Hansen PS. Yes, hurricane Sandy was the reason for the delay in getting this fixed. --------------030506040709090805040908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/2/2012 5:54 PM, Ian Kanski wrote:
We are experiencing the following error when attempting to convert our xml RFC to an ePub.  Phil has made changes to his RFC6189 and has used your site in the past (which he speaks of highly).  Thank you for your help!

Error: Conversion error to epub
sh: ebook-convert: command not found

With help from Henrik, this has been fixed for http://xml.resource.org.

There is still a problem producing ePub from http://xml.resource.org/experimental.html, which is being worked.

    Tony Hansen

PS. Yes, hurricane Sandy was the reason for the delay in getting this fixed.
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(envelope-from ) id 1TdgAh-00058I-4i for xml2rfc@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:51:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:51:16 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: xml2rfc list User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Wed_Nov_28_20:51:16_2012-1" Subject: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:51:32 -0000 --Multipart_Wed_Nov_28_20:51:16_2012-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII i am probably just not seeing it, and the diagnostic message is a bit obscured. some darned resource is wanted, but durned if i can see what. xml2rfc draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-mib.xml Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/xml2rfc", line 4, in import pkg_resources File 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Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FC7321F85FE for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 04:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2012 12:14:26 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 13:14:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19laEBd6TdlcIU9rmDT3/8j4cdj/EQ/5rG/epXILV 3bWpygOKCsDk1f Message-ID: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:14:26 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:14:34 -0000 It seems something is wrong with resolving the included s. I never use them (because I think external dependencies are simply a bad idea), so I can't help you with that... Best regards, Julian On 2012-11-28 12:51, Randy Bush wrote: > i am probably just not seeing it, and the diagnostic message is a bit > obscured. some darned resource is wanted, but durned if i can see what. > > xml2rfc draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-mib.xml > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/xml2rfc", line 4, in > import pkg_resources > File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in > working_set.require(__requires__) > File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require > needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements)) > File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve > raise DistributionNotFound(req) # XXX put more info here > pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: xml2rfc==2.3.9 > make: *** [all] Error 1 > > sources are > > > > > randy > > > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 28 06:02:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF83D21F87F3 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.305 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.305 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.294, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UfMSPYxVX7U4 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC0121F87B0 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TdiDg-0005UT-VT; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:02:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:02:29 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> References: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:02:36 -0000 > It seems something is wrong with resolving the included s. hmmm. of course, this always used to work :) $ env | grep XML XML_LIBRARY=.:/Users/randy/refs/rfc:/Users/randy/refs/id and $ ls -l /Users/randy/refs total 0 drwxr-xr-x 56074 randy staff 1906516 Oct 26 18:31 id drwxr-xr-x 6592 randy staff 224128 Oct 26 03:31 rfc randy From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Nov 28 06:07:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6E21F87AC for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:07:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SkFOflyeP5xb for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:07:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9BAB21F87A3 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2012 14:07:18 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 15:07:18 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+J3nV67RuJbl2egFv8YxTLDuj6ca89pERdjMNjyD JpOG1B0RRdKw41 Message-ID: <50B61A96.1080403@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:07:18 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:07:23 -0000 On 2012-11-28 15:02, Randy Bush wrote: >> It seems something is wrong with resolving the included s. > > hmmm. of course, this always used to work :) > > $ env | grep XML > XML_LIBRARY=.:/Users/randy/refs/rfc:/Users/randy/refs/id > > and > > $ ls -l /Users/randy/refs > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 56074 randy staff 1906516 Oct 26 18:31 id > drwxr-xr-x 6592 randy staff 224128 Oct 26 03:31 rfc > > randy Does xml2rfc2 works the same way as the TCL version with respect to this? Best regards, Julian From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 28 06:11:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59C521F880F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:11:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.379 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.379 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.220, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F6Qu4xZJLs49 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1F21F881D for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TdiM6-0005X0-Hw; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:11:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:11:11 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: References: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:11:16 -0000 fixed by reinstalling with brew as opposed to download. randy From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 28 06:12:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0916021F880F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:12:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a6JPq9sISk2x for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9F021F8808 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TdiNJ-0005Xt-Lr; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:12:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:12:27 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <50B61A96.1080403@gmx.de> References: <50B60022.2050302@gmx.de> <50B61A96.1080403@gmx.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] (no subject) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:12:31 -0000 > Does xml2rfc2 works the same way as the TCL version with respect to this? best as i remember, yes randy From donald.fedyk@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Nov 29 16:22:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A5721F8A9C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:22:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HabpKLyjS-x2 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C56D21F890B for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id qAU0MAeY010096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:22:10 +0100 Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.48) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:22:09 +0100 Received: from US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.3.135]) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.48]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:22:08 -0500 From: "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Non IETF Xref reference examples Thread-Index: Ac3Oj3KENt7fTCiFTl6NbPJFEj5kbg== Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:22:08 +0000 Message-ID: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-puzzleid: {AE1EFC4B-EC91-4735-BE8C-7F81AEDBC640} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Aegs AuQY CJm0 Cgwh DzMo EPQe Eb8C GCqm GDjB GOlS GPcJ H337 IlOg JRds Joza JpeS; 1; eABtAGwAMgByAGYAYwBAAGkAZQB0AGYALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {AE1EFC4B-EC91-4735-BE8C-7F81AEDBC640}; ZABvAG4AYQBsAGQALgBmAGUAZAB5AGsAQABhAGwAYwBhAHQAZQBsAC0AbAB1AGMAZQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:12:56 GMT; TgBvAG4AIABJAEUAVABGACAAWAByAGUAZgAgAHIAZQBmAGUAcgBlAG4AYwBlACAAZQB4AGEAbQBwAGwAZQBzAA== x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.16] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Subject: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:22:18 -0000 Hi=20 This may be an old topic but I scanned the archives and could not figure ou= t how to put in references to non-RFCs.=20 I'm updating an existing XML draft but the external references were hand ed= ited.=20 For external refs that show up in informative references: I found this sort= of works: 8021Q "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Me= dia Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q" It produces this:=20 [r.8021Q] "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q", "8021Q", 2011. I wanted to use 8021Q as the anchor but that failed. I found ref.8021Q work= ed and I found I could shorten it to the above. There is an extraneous "802= 1Q" that must come from the title. However if I put all the text in the tit= le it shows up in the XREF text location. Is there a way around that? I g= uess I'm not using it the way it was intended.=20 Is there boiler plate for non IETF references somewhere?=20 Thanks, Don=20 From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Thu Nov 29 18:08:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19BB21F8660 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JyThUQT3e98J for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE62921F8419 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.102] (50-0-66-243.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qAU28j1q023465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:08:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:08:44 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C4C53CC-A82E-4A0A-B8F3-E365CE1F2C01@vpnc.org> References: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 02:08:53 -0000 On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:22 PM, "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" = wrote: > Hi=20 >=20 > This may be an old topic but I scanned the archives and could not = figure out how to put in references to non-RFCs.=20 >=20 > I'm updating an existing XML draft but the external references were = hand edited.=20 >=20 > For external refs that show up in informative references: I found this = sort of works: >=20 > > > 8021Q >=20 > > "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan = area Media > Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area > Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q" > >=20 > > > >=20 > It produces this:=20 >=20 > [r.8021Q] "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media > Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local = Area > Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q", "8021Q", 2011. >=20 >=20 > I wanted to use 8021Q as the anchor but that failed. I found ref.8021Q = worked and I found I could shorten it to the above. This is because (I believe) that xref links can't start with a digit. > There is an extraneous "8021Q" that must come from the title. However = if I put all the text in the title it shows up in the XREF text = location. Is there a way around that? I guess I'm not using it the way = it was intended.=20 You are not (but don't feel bad: many of us fudge here). An example of = something that has an author, a title and (for extra credit) a URL would = be: .ASIA CJK (Chinese Japanese Korean) IDN = Policies DotAsia Organisation --Paul Hoffman= From julian.reschke@gmx.de Fri Nov 30 04:46:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C11121F86E5 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:46:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zT1nGwC89kXB for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DBA321F86DE for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Nov 2012 12:46:29 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2012 13:46:29 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX192rdIziPp2Kc/OkBdM+wzr8j3YTUey18XrofToFr EKG+fsMkPTiwuk Message-ID: <50B8AAA4.8080909@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:46:28 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" References: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:46:32 -0000 On 2012-11-30 01:22, Fedyk, Donald (Don) wrote: > Hi > > This may be an old topic but I scanned the archives and could not figure out how to put in references to non-RFCs. > > I'm updating an existing XML draft but the external references were hand edited. > > For external refs that show up in informative references: I found this sort of works: > > > > 8021Q > > > "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media > Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area > Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q" > > > > > > > It produces this: > > [r.8021Q] "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media > Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area > Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q", "8021Q", 2011. > > > I wanted to use 8021Q as the anchor but that failed. I found ref.8021Q worked and I found I could shorten it to the above. There is an extraneous "8021Q" that must come from the title. However if I put all the text in the title it shows up in the XREF text location. Is there a way around that? I guess I'm not using it the way it was intended. > > Is there boiler plate for non IETF references somewhere? As Paul pointed out, anchors can not start with a digit (because they are XML IDs). Otherwise, the "8021Q" is not extraneous; after all, that's what you specified as title. On the other hand, you have lots of stuff in the element that doesn't belong there. Best regards, Julian From arusso@amsl.com Fri Nov 30 06:14:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB7E21F897A for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yFEJvcpCyiUX for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813B21F89CE for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3D912BB3A; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RUkK9NzKKxFl; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc2.home (pool-173-73-60-7.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.73.60.7]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D33612BAE0; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Alice Russo In-Reply-To: <50B8AAA4.8080909@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:14:39 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> <50B8AAA4.8080909@gmx.de> To: "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:14:42 -0000 Don, The citation libraries listed on http://xml.resource.org include = references for non-IETF documents. After W3C, JSF, and 3GPP libraries is = the "Miscellaneous" library = (http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/), which includes references = for ANSI, FIPS, IEEE, ISO, and ITU documents, among others. Generally, = these references can be used as a starting point and will require an = update. Example: = http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/_reference.IEEE.P802-1Q.1998.xm= l Potentially updated to: IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area networks -- Media = Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridged Local Area = Networks IEEE Thanks, Alice Russo RFC Production Center On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-11-30 01:22, Fedyk, Donald (Don) wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> This may be an old topic but I scanned the archives and could not = figure out how to put in references to non-RFCs. >>=20 >> I'm updating an existing XML draft but the external references were = hand edited. >>=20 >> For external refs that show up in informative references: I found = this sort of works: >>=20 >> >> >> 8021Q >>=20 >> >> "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan = area Media >> Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local = Area >> Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q" >> >>=20 >> >> >> >>=20 >> It produces this: >>=20 >> [r.8021Q] "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media >> Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local = Area >> Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q", "8021Q", 2011. >>=20 >>=20 >> I wanted to use 8021Q as the anchor but that failed. I found = ref.8021Q worked and I found I could shorten it to the above. There is = an extraneous "8021Q" that must come from the title. However if I put = all the text in the title it shows up in the XREF text location. Is = there a way around that? I guess I'm not using it the way it was = intended. >>=20 >> Is there boiler plate for non IETF references somewhere? >=20 > As Paul pointed out, anchors can not start with a digit (because they = are XML IDs). >=20 > Otherwise, the "8021Q" is not extraneous; after all, that's what you = specified as title. On the other hand, you have lots of stuff in the = element that doesn't belong there. >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 From donald.fedyk@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Nov 30 07:18:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E51121F8B31 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:18:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gjsosOFyTEG6 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB80021F8B25 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id qAUFHfkD005797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:18:21 +0100 Received: from US70TWXCHHUB04.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (135.5.2.36) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.63) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:18:14 +0100 Received: from US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.3.135]) by US70TWXCHHUB04.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.36]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:18:12 -0500 From: "Fedyk, Donald (Don)" To: Alice Russo Thread-Topic: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples Thread-Index: Ac3Oj3KENt7fTCiFTl6NbPJFEj5kbgAky1AAAAMUbIAACjo50A== Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:18:11 +0000 Message-ID: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805BC89@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <59E40B2663705C47B8C0A107CBFBA98805B797@US70TWXCHMBA09.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> <50B8AAA4.8080909@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:18:39 -0000 OK Thanks all, The examples is what I was looking for.=20 =20 Don=20 -----Original Message----- From: Alice Russo [mailto:arusso@amsl.com]=20 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:15 AM To: Fedyk, Donald (Don) Cc: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Non IETF Xref reference examples Don, The citation libraries listed on http://xml.resource.org include references= for non-IETF documents. After W3C, JSF, and 3GPP libraries is the "Miscell= aneous" library (http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/), which includ= es references for ANSI, FIPS, IEEE, ISO, and ITU documents, among others. G= enerally, these references can be used as a starting point and will require= an update. Example: http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/_reference.IEEE.P802-1Q= .1998.xml Potentially updated to: IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area networks -- Media Acce= ss Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridged Local Area Networks IEEE Thanks, Alice Russo RFC Production Center On Nov 30, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-11-30 01:22, Fedyk, Donald (Don) wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> This may be an old topic but I scanned the archives and could not figure= out how to put in references to non-RFCs. >>=20 >> I'm updating an existing XML draft but the external references were hand= edited. >>=20 >> For external refs that show up in informative references: I found this s= ort of works: >>=20 >> >> >> 8021Q >>=20 >> >> "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area= Media >> Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area >> Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q" >> >>=20 >> >> >> >>=20 >> It produces this: >>=20 >> [r.8021Q] "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area Media >> Access Control (MAC) Bridges and Virtual Bridge Local Area >> Networks. IEEE Std 802.1Q", "8021Q", 2011. >>=20 >>=20 >> I wanted to use 8021Q as the anchor but that failed. I found ref.8021Q w= orked and I found I could shorten it to the above. There is an extraneous "= 8021Q" that must come from the title. However if I put all the text in the = title it shows up in the XREF text location. Is there a way around that? = I guess I'm not using it the way it was intended. >>=20 >> Is there boiler plate for non IETF references somewhere? >=20 > As Paul pointed out, anchors can not start with a digit (because they are= XML IDs). >=20 > Otherwise, the "8021Q" is not extraneous; after all, that's what you spec= ified as title. On the other hand, you have lots of stuff in the element that doesn't belong there. >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 From charliep@computer.org Fri Nov 30 18:21:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564E521F893A for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:21:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ghj6d+BaAuC0 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B585C21F884F for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.51.72.196] (helo=[192.168.1.84]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Techq-00017T-1J for xml2rfc@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <50B9699E.1090606@computer.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:21:18 -0800 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Saratoga Blue Skies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad864ca03e960f72962fc8d35114392f5e91350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.51.72.196 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:28:50 -0800 Subject: [xml2rfc] Page break in xml2rfc X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 02:21:27 -0000 Hello folks, How do I get a page break in xml2rfc? Alternatively, how do I protect a table from getting a page break in the middle? -- Regards, Charlie P.