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I'm working on an I-D with a co-author and for various reasons we'd
like to include the author's job title in the author address block. I
don't see a place for that information in the DTD for RFC 2629. Adding
it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to be the
best I can do. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Peter

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On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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> I'm working on an I-D with a co-author and for various reasons we'd
> like to include the author's job title in the author address block. I
> don't see a place for that information in the DTD for RFC 2629. Adding
> it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to be the
> best I can do. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> ...

Don't :-)


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Peter,
I am interested in the "various reasons".
Could you give me at least three?
Thank you!

Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh


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> On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>> don't see a place for that information in the DTD for RFC 2629. Adding
>> it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to be the
>> best I can do. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> ...
>>
>
> Don't :-)
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HEre's some I could think of:

"Implementer of Running Code"

"Emperor"

"Consensus Builder"

etc.

Alex

Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zoltán Ördögh (GMail) a écrit :
> Peter,
> I am interested in the "various reasons".
> Could you give me at least three?
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards: Zoltán Ördögh
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de
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>         Adding
>         it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to
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>         best I can do. Any suggestions?
>
>         Thanks!
>         ...
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Hi Alexandru,
these are examples (thank you), not reasons.

Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Alexandru Petrescu <
alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> HEre's some I could think of:
>
> "Implementer of Running Code"
>
> "Emperor"
>
> "Consensus Builder"
>
> etc.
>
> Alex
>
> Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh (GMail) a =C3=A9crit :
>
>> Peter,
>> I am interested in the "various reasons".
>> Could you give me at least three?
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de
>> <mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de>**> wrote:
>>
>>     On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>
>>         -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>         I'm working on an I-D with a co-author and for various reasons
>> we'd
>>         like to include the author's job title in the author address
>>         block. I
>>         don't see a place for that information in the DTD for RFC 2629.
>>         Adding
>>         it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to
>>         be the
>>         best I can do. Any suggestions?
>>
>>         Thanks!
>>         ...
>>
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>>     Don't :-)
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Hi Alexandru,<br>these are examples (thank you), not reasons.<br clear=3D"a=
ll"><div><br>Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Alexan=
dru Petrescu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">HEre&#39;s some I could think of:<br>
<br>
&quot;Implementer of Running Code&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Emperor&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Consensus Builder&quot;<br>
<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh (GMail) a =C3=A9crit :<br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
Peter,<br>
I am interested in the &quot;various reasons&quot;.<br>
Could you give me at least three?<br>
Thank you!<br>
<br>
Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:julia=
n.reschke@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">julian.reschke@gmx.de</a><br></div><div=
>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">julia=
n.reschke@gmx.de</a>&gt;<u></u>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hash: SHA1<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 like to include the author&#39;s job title in t=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 block. I<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 don&#39;t see a place for that information in t=
he DTD for RFC 2629.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adding<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be the<br>
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<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks!<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...<br>
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I could be wrong, but I assume that Zoltán meant the question seriously. 
  In any event, I do.

We've gone 40+ years without job titles as part of RFC author 
information, and no evident problems caused by their absence.

In policy terms the change would be quite significant.  It therefore 
needs serious justification (and support), IMO.

d/

On 1/17/2013 8:04 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> HEre's some I could think of:
>
> "Implementer of Running Code"
>
> "Emperor"
>
> "Consensus Builder"
>
> etc.
>
> Alex
>
> Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zoltán Ördögh (GMail) a écrit :
>> Peter,
>> I am interested in the "various reasons".
>> Could you give me at least three?
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best regards: Zoltán Ördögh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de
>> <mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>
>>         -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>         Hash: SHA1
>>
>>         I'm working on an I-D with a co-author and for various reasons
>> we'd
>>         like to include the author's job title in the author address
>>         block. I
>>         don't see a place for that information in the DTD for RFC 2629.
>>         Adding
>>         it as a <street/> element seems like a hack, but it appears to
>>         be the
>>         best I can do. Any suggestions?
>>
>>         Thanks!
>>         ...
>>
>>
>>     Don't :-)
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Hi Dave,
that's exactly why I'd like to see reasons. Preferably, the good ones (i.e.
the top three).

Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> wrote:

> I could be wrong, but I assume that Zolt=C3=A1n meant the question seriou=
sly.
>  In any event, I do.
>
> We've gone 40+ years without job titles as part of RFC author information=
,
> and no evident problems caused by their absence.
>
> In policy terms the change would be quite significant.  It therefore need=
s
> serious justification (and support), IMO.
>
> d/
>
>
> On 1/17/2013 8:04 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> HEre's some I could think of:
>>
>> "Implementer of Running Code"
>>
>> "Emperor"
>>
>> "Consensus Builder"
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh (GMail) a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>>> Peter,
>>> I am interested in the "various reasons".
>>> Could you give me at least three?
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de
>>> <mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de>**> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>
>>>         -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>         Hash: SHA1
>>>
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Hi Dave,<br>that&#39;s exactly why I&#39;d like to see reasons. Preferably,=
 the good ones (i.e. the top three).<br clear=3D"all"><div><br>Best regards=
: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Dave C=
rocker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhc2@dcrocker.net" target=3D=
"_blank">dhc2@dcrocker.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">

I could be wrong, but I assume that Zolt=C3=A1n meant the question seriousl=
y. =C2=A0In any event, I do.<br>
<br>
We&#39;ve gone 40+ years without job titles as part of RFC author informati=
on, and no evident problems caused by their absence.<br>
<br>
In policy terms the change would be quite significant. =C2=A0It therefore n=
eeds serious justification (and support), IMO.<br>
<br>
d/<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On 1/17/2013 8:04 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
HEre&#39;s some I could think of:<br>
<br>
&quot;Implementer of Running Code&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Emperor&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Consensus Builder&quot;<br>
<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
Le 17/01/2013 16:39, Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh (GMail) a =C3=A9crit :<br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Peter,<br>
I am interested in the &quot;various reasons&quot;.<br>
Could you give me at least three?<br>
Thank you!<br>
<br>
Best regards: Zolt=C3=A1n =C3=96rd=C3=B6gh<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Julian Reschke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:julia=
n.reschke@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">julian.reschke@gmx.de</a><br>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">julia=
n.reschke@gmx.de</a>&gt;<u></u>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 2013-01-17 00:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I&#39;m working on an I-D with a co-author and =
for various reasons<br>
we&#39;d<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 like to include the author&#39;s job title in t=
he author address<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 block. I<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 don&#39;t see a place for that information in t=
he DTD for RFC 2629.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adding<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 it as a &lt;street/&gt; element seems like a ha=
ck, but it appears to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 best I can do. Any suggestions?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks!<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Don&#39;t :-)<br>
<br>
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nk">xml2rfc@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/__listinfo/xml2rfc" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/_<u></u>_listinfo/xml2rfc</a>=
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-- <br>
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=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://bbiw.net" target=3D"_blank">bbiw.net</a></font></sp=
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Given that xml2rfc supports private memos, this might be a marginally
useful feature to add.  But private memos are not really a primary
feature of xml2rfc, so that's not a really good justification.

Note though that having this feature wouldn't mean that it gets used
in actual RFCs.  It might be useful to be able to have something like
roles or job titles in I-Ds, but not in RFCs.  At any rate, I don't
need this feature, and I do think it's good that we keep job titles
out of RFCs *and* I-Ds.

To summarize: yeah, don't.

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On 1/17/13 9:12 AM, Nico Williams wrote:
> Given that xml2rfc supports private memos, this might be a
> marginally useful feature to add.  But private memos are not really
> a primary feature of xml2rfc, so that's not a really good
> justification.
> 
> Note though that having this feature wouldn't mean that it gets
> used in actual RFCs.  It might be useful to be able to have
> something like roles or job titles in I-Ds, but not in RFCs.  At
> any rate, I don't need this feature, and I do think it's good that
> we keep job titles out of RFCs *and* I-Ds.
> 
> To summarize: yeah, don't.

OK, I won't try to do this in xml2rfc.

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Le 17/01/2013 18:26, Peter Saint-Andre a écrit :
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> On 1/17/13 9:12 AM, Nico Williams wrote:
>> Given that xml2rfc supports private memos, this might be a
>> marginally useful feature to add.  But private memos are not really
>> a primary feature of xml2rfc, so that's not a really good
>> justification.
>>
>> Note though that having this feature wouldn't mean that it gets
>> used in actual RFCs.  It might be useful to be able to have
>> something like roles or job titles in I-Ds, but not in RFCs.  At
>> any rate, I don't need this feature, and I do think it's good that
>>  we keep job titles out of RFCs *and* I-Ds.
>>
>> To summarize: yeah, don't.
>
> OK, I won't try to do this in xml2rfc.

As a side note, some commonly use somehow wrongly that space to expose
that they look for new opportunities (-01 has afilliation, -02 same
person no affiliation).  Why not using a job title field instead.

Other (dubious) uses of the affiliation fields: this company paid my
travel so their name is on my badge, this other company pays my other
contract so their name is in my draft.

Maybe a job title may help to clarify readers (of badge and of draft) to
understand the particular interests of that particular person.

I've seen real business cards of respectable people with job title
"Router Goddess" which illustrates a high level of experience to some
readers.

Why not in the drafts.

Yours,

Alex


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This announces the new xml2rfc implementation for beta testing.  There =
are two components: a command line interface and graphical user =
interfaces.

XML2RFC Version 2
-----------------

The rewrite of xml2rfc in python, tagged with version numbers 2.x.y, =
have been unofficially available for some time, and it is now officially =
announced as available for use.

This package is a complete rewrite of the xml2rfc command-line =
functionality in python.  The command line tool is available from the =
main Python package repository, PyPi:

 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc

or alternatively from:

 http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

A number of alternative installation methods are available, described on =
the PyPi page for xml2rfc.

There are some known issues with the current release, none of them =
major.  These are listed in the issue tracker:

 http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/9

Bug fixing is actively happening.  If you find bugs which are not =
already listed in the tracker, please add them.  Please help us find the =
bugs.  They cannot be fixed if we do not know about them.  Also, =
suggestions for improvements are welcome.

New releases will be announced at the xml2rfc mail list.


GUI Frontends
-------------

There are also GUI frontends available for Mac, Linux and Windows.  =
These are not undergoing active bugfixing at the moment, but should =
overall be in good enough shape for production use if you prefer a GUI =
interface instead of command-line for your XML to draft/rfc operations.

If you are going to install the GUI version, it is suggested that you =
first install the latest command-line version, and then the GUI =
front-end.

The GUI components can be downloaded from here:

 http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/gui/

Please note that in some cases, the GUI installers come with an embedded =
version of the base tool, and this version will not necessarily be the =
latest version available.  If you download and install a later version =
of the command-line tool, the GUI component should use that if it comes =
before the embedded version in your PATH, which will normally be the =
case.


Feedback
--------

I hope you'll find that the rewrite of xml2rfc works well for you; it =
will certainly be easier to extend and bugfix than the previous version. =
 If you have feedback, regarding bugs or enhancement suggestions, please =
use the issue tracker at:

 http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/newticket


Best regards,

   Russ Housley
   IETF Chair

   Henrik Levkowetz
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 * Added a warning for too long lines in figures and tables.  No 
   outdenting for now; I'd like to consult some about that. Fixes issue #76.

 * Updated tests showing that all list format specifiers mentioned in 
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 * Changed spanx emphasis back to _this_ instead of -this-, matching the v1 
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   reinstalling lxml even when it was present.

 * Updated README.rst to cover the new --date option, and tweaked it a bit.

 * Added some files to provide an enhanced source distribution package.

 * Updated setup.py with maintainer and licence information.

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This release fixes all outstanding major bugs, details below.
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 * Updated the nroff writer to do backslash escaping on source text, to 
   avoid escaping nroff control characters.  Fixes issue #77.

 * Added a modified xref writer to the nroff output writer, in order to 
   handle xref targets which should not be broken across lines.  This, 
   together with changeset [688], fixes issue #80.

 * Added text to the section test case to trigger the second part of issue 
   #79.  It turns out that the changes in [688] fixed this, too; this closes 
   issue #79.

 * Tweaked the nroff generation to not break on hyphens, in order to avoid 
   hyphenated words ending up with embedded spaces: 'pre-processing' becoming 
   'pre- processing' if 'pre-' occurred at the end of an nroff text line.  
   Also tweaked the line-width used in line-breaking to have matching 
   line-breaks between .txt and .nroff output (with exception for lines ending 
   in hyphens).

 * Tweaked roman number list counter to output roman numbers in a field 5 
   spaces wide, instead of having varied widths.  This is different from 
   version 1, so may have to be reverted, depending on how people react.

 * Added a warning for too long lines in figures and tables.  No 
   outdenting for now; I'd like to consult some about that. Fixes issue #76.

 * Updated tests showing that all list format specifiers mentioned in 
   issue #70 now works.  Closes isssue #70.

 * Changed spanx emphasis back to _this_ instead of -this-, matching the v1 
   behaviour.  Addresses issue #70.

 * Make <vspace/> in a hangindent list reset the indentation to the 
   hang-indent, even if the bullet text is longer than the hang-indent.  
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 * Refined the page-breaking to not insert an extra page break for artwork
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 * Refined the page-breaking to avoid breaking artwork and tables across 
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 * Fixed a problem with centering of titles and labels.  Fixes issue #73.

 * Changed the leading and trailing whitespace lines of a page to better 
   match legacy output.  Fixed the autobreaking algorithm to correctly avoid 
   orphans and widows; fixes issue #72.  Removed an extra blank line at the 
   top of the page following an early page break to avoid orphan or widow.

 * Tweaked the generation of ToC dot-lines and page numbers to better 
   match legacy xml2rfc.  Fixed a bug in the generation of xref text where 
   trailing whitespace could cause double spaces.  Tweaked the output format 
   to produce the correct number of leading blank lines on the first page of a 
   document.

 * Modified the handling of figure titles, so that given titles will be 
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 * Tweaked the html writer to have a buffer interface that provides a 
   self.buf similar to the other writers, for test purposes.

 * Reworked the WriterElementTest suite to test all the output formats, 
   not only paginated text.

 * Added a note about /usr/local/bin permissions.  This closes issue #65.

 * Added files describing possible install methods (INSTALL), and possible 
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 * The syntax that was used to specify the version of the lxml dependency 
   ('>=') is not supported in python distutil setup.py files, and caused setup 
   to try to find an lxml version greater than =2.2.8, which couldn't succeed. 
   Fixed to say '>2.2.7' instead.  This was probably the cause of always 
   reinstalling lxml even when it was present.

 * Updated README.rst to cover the new --date option, and tweaked it a bit.

 * Added some files to provide an enhanced source distribution package.

 * Updated setup.py with maintainer and licence information.

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on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine

randy

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# python setup.py install
running install
running bdist_egg
running egg_info
writing requirements to xml2rfc.egg-info/requires.txt
writing xml2rfc.egg-info/PKG-INFO
writing top-level names to xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt
writing dependency_links to xml2rfc.egg-info/dependency_links.txt
reading manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
reading manifest template 'MANIFEST.in'
warning: no files found matching 'README.*'
writing manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
installing library code to build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg
running install_lib
running build_py
creating build
creating build/lib
creating build/lib/xml2rfc
copying xml2rfc/__init__.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
copying xml2rfc/log.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
copying xml2rfc/parser.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
copying xml2rfc/utils.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
creating build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/base.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/html.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
copying xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
creating build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
copying xml2rfc/templates/address_card.html -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
copying xml2rfc/templates/base.html -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-other.ent -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-xhtml.ent -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629.dtd -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/__init__.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/log.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/parser.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/address_card.html -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/base.html -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-other.ent -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-xhtml.ent -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629.dtd -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/utils.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/base.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/html.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/__init__.py to __init__.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/log.py to log.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/parser.py to parser.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/utils.py to utils.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py to __init__.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/base.py to base.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py to expanded_xml.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/html.py to html.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py to nroff.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py to paginated_txt.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py to raw_txt.pyc
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
installing scripts to build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
running install_scripts
running build_scripts
creating build/scripts-2.7
copying and adjusting scripts/xml2rfc -> build/scripts-2.7
changing mode of build/scripts-2.7/xml2rfc from 644 to 755
creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
copying build/scripts-2.7/xml2rfc -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
changing mode of build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/xml2rfc to 755
copying xml2rfc.egg-info/PKG-INFO -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
copying xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
copying xml2rfc.egg-info/dependency_links.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
copying xml2rfc.egg-info/requires.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
copying xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
zip_safe flag not set; analyzing archive contents...
xml2rfc.parser: module references __file__
xml2rfc.writers.html: module references __file__
creating dist
creating 'dist/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2-py2.7.egg' and adding 'build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg' to it
removing 'build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg' (and everything under it)
Processing xml2rfc-2.3.11.2-py2.7.egg
creating /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2-py2.7.egg
Extracting xml2rfc-2.3.11.2-py2.7.egg to /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
Removing xml2rfc 2.3.10 from easy-install.pth file
Adding xml2rfc 2.3.11.2 to easy-install.pth file
Installing xml2rfc script to /usr/local/bin

Installed /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2-py2.7.egg
Processing dependencies for xml2rfc==2.3.11.2
Searching for lxml>=2.2.8,<3.0
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/lxml/
Reading http://codespeak.net/lxml
Reading http://lxml.de/
Best match: lxml 3.0bugfix
Downloading https://github.com/lxml/lxml/tarball/lxml-3.0#egg=lxml-3.0bugfix
Processing lxml-3.0
Running lxml-lxml-bcfbb82/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir /tmp/easy_install-Jh0OtE/lxml-lxml-bcfbb82/egg-dist-tmp-xrrpAc
Building lxml version 3.0.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "setup.py", line 84, in <module>
    install_requires = ['lxml >= 2.2.8, < 3.0 '],
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py", line 152, in setup
    dist.run_commands()
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 953, in run_commands
    self.run_command(cmd)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 972, in run_command
    cmd_obj.run()
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/install.py", line 76, in run
    self.do_egg_install()
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/install.py", line 104, in do_egg_install
    cmd.run()
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 211, in run
    self.easy_install(spec, not self.no_deps)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 427, in easy_install
    return self.install_item(None, spec, tmpdir, deps, True)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 478, in install_item
    self.process_distribution(spec, dist, deps)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 519, in process_distribution
    [requirement], self.local_index, self.easy_install
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 563, in resolve
    dist = best[req.key] = env.best_match(req, self, installer)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 799, in best_match
    return self.obtain(req, installer) # try and download/install
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 811, in obtain
    return installer(requirement)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 446, in easy_install
    return self.install_item(spec, dist.location, tmpdir, deps)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 476, in install_item
    dists = self.install_eggs(spec, download, tmpdir)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 655, in install_eggs
    return self.build_and_install(setup_script, setup_base)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 930, in build_and_install
    self.run_setup(setup_script, setup_base, args)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/command/easy_install.py", line 919, in run_setup
    run_setup(setup_script, args)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 62, in run_setup
    lambda: execfile(
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 105, in run
    return func()
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/setuptools/sandbox.py", line 64, in <lambda>
    {'__file__':setup_script, '__name__':'__main__'}
  File "setup.py", line 226, in <module>
    
  File "setup.py", line 139, in setup_extra_options
    
  File "/tmp/easy_install-Jh0OtE/lxml-lxml-bcfbb82/setupinfo.py", line 79, in ext_modules
RuntimeError: ERROR: Trying to build without Cython, but pre-generated 'src/lxml/lxml.etree.c' is not available (pass --without-cython to ignore this error).

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 19:32 Randy Bush said the following:
> on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine

... <<snip>>

> RuntimeError: ERROR: Trying to build without Cython, but pre-generated 'src/lxml/lxml.etree.c' is not available (pass --without-cython to ignore this error).


This seems to be a problem with building lxml >= 3.0.  I've uploaded a new
version, 2.3.11.2 which requires lxml >= 2.3.8, < 3.0, which hopefully should
work better -- it installs as it should at least on my debian and os-x boxes.


Best regards,

	Henrik



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hi kenrik,

> This seems to be a problem with building lxml >= 3.0.  I've uploaded a new
> version, 2.3.11.2 which requires lxml >= 2.3.8, < 3.0, which hopefully should
> work better -- it installs as it should at least on my debian and os-x boxes.

that error was on 2.3.11.2, xml2rfc-2.3.11.2.tar.gz

randy

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 19:51 Randy Bush said the following:
> hi kenrik,
> 
>> This seems to be a problem with building lxml >= 3.0.  I've uploaded a new
>> version, 2.3.11.2 which requires lxml >= 2.3.8, < 3.0, which hopefully should
>> work better -- it installs as it should at least on my debian and os-x boxes.
> 
> that error was on 2.3.11.2, xml2rfc-2.3.11.2.tar.gz

Ok; did you use pip install or python setup.py install?


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> Ok; did you use pip install or python setup.py install?

the latter

randy

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On 2013-01-20 19:55 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Ok; did you use pip install or python setup.py install?
> 
> the latter

Ok, which version of python, distutils and setuptools do you have?

 $ python --version
 $ python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
 $ python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'


	Henrik

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[ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine

it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubuntu,
for those inclined:
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[ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine

it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubuntu,
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henrik,

> Ok, which version of python, distutils and setuptools do you have?
> 
>  $ python --version
>  $ python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
>  $ python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'

ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python --version
Python 2.7.2
ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
  File "<string>", line 1
    import distutils, print distutils.__version__
                          ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'
  File "<string>", line 1
    import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__
                           ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
2.7.2
ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
0.6c12

randy

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[ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> henrik,
>=20
> > Ok, which version of python, distutils and setuptools do you have?
> >=20
> >  $ python --version
> >  $ python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
> >  $ python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'

Try it with a semi-colon:

 python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'

Seems to work for me.

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[ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> henrik,
>=20
> > Ok, which version of python, distutils and setuptools do you have?
> >=20
> >  $ python --version
> >  $ python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
> >  $ python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'

Try it with a semi-colon:

 python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'

Seems to work for me.

grtz Miek

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> Try it with a semi-colon:

look a bit more carefully.  i did.  i just could not resist teasing
henrik for his not testing :)

> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python --version
> Python 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import distutils, print distutils.__version__
>                           ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__
>                            ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
> 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
> 0.6c12

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> Try it with a semi-colon:

look a bit more carefully.  i did.  i just could not resist teasing
henrik for his not testing :)

> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python --version
> Python 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import distutils, print distutils.__version__
>                           ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__
>                            ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
> 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
> 0.6c12

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On 01/20/2013 11:05 AM, Miek Gieben wrote:
> [ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
>> on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine
> 
> it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubuntu, 
> for those inclined: 
> http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> 

That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5
package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.

A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.

Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is
automatically updated?  I can help with this.

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On 01/20/2013 11:05 AM, Miek Gieben wrote:
> [ Quoting <randy@psg.com> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
>> on mountain where xml2rfc-2.3.10 built just fine
> 
> it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubuntu, 
> for those inclined: 
> http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> 

That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5
package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.

A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.

Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is
automatically updated?  I can help with this.

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I'm sorry, my mistake, please instead do

 $ python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
 $ python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'

[[ By the way, my results here are:

20:14 /tmp
henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
2.7.3

20:14 /tmp
henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
0.6c12

If you find versions substantially below these (not likely with distutils, but
could be the case with setuptools) it would be good to get a newer versions.

I had problems with the parsing of the dependency list in setup.py on os-x
before I fetched a newer version of pip... ]]

Best regards,

	Henrik

On 2013-01-20 20:06 Randy Bush said the following:
> henrik,
> 
>> Ok, which version of python, distutils and setuptools do you have?
>> 
>>  $ python --version
>>  $ python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
>>  $ python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'
> 
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python --version
> Python 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils, print distutils.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import distutils, print distutils.__version__
>                           ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__'
>   File "<string>", line 1
>     import setuptools, print setuptools.__version__
>                            ^
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
> 2.7.2
> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
> 0.6c12
> 
> randy
> 

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> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.3.11, available for =
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>   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>   http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

For those of us who installed 2.3.10 yesterday :-), are there =
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--Paul Hoffman=

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Hi Paul,

On 2013-01-20 17:58 Paul Hoffman said the following:
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.3.11, available for download
>> from:
>> 
>>   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>   http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
> 
> For those of us who installed 2.3.10 yesterday :-), are there instructions for easy updating?

On the command-line, with or without 'sudo' depending on your setup, do

  pip install xml2rfc --upgrade

or alternatively, download the package, cd into the unpacked top directory, and do

  python setup.py install

and you should be good.


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Hi Paul,

On 2013-01-20 17:58 Paul Hoffman said the following:
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.3.11, available for download
>> from:
>> 
>>   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>   http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
> 
> For those of us who installed 2.3.10 yesterday :-), are there instructions for easy updating?

On the command-line, with or without 'sudo' depending on your setup, do

  pip install xml2rfc --upgrade

or alternatively, download the package, cd into the unpacked top directory, and do

  python setup.py install

and you should be good.


Best regards,

	Henrik


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[ Quoting <petithug@acm.org> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> > it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubunt=
u,=20
> > for those inclined:=20
> > http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>=20
> That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5
> package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.

Ah... I never actually made the time to understand how Debian's diversion
scheme would work.

> A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.
>=20
> Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is
> automatically updated?  I can help with this.

Good idea and yes, your help is welcome. I'm a bit curious though
as what should actually be packaged for pandoc2rfc? In essence
it is just 1 file: transform.xsl ?

 Regards,

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[ Quoting <petithug@acm.org> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
> > it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for Ubunt=
u,=20
> > for those inclined:=20
> > http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>=20
> That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5
> package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.

Ah... I never actually made the time to understand how Debian's diversion
scheme would work.

> A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.
>=20
> Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is
> automatically updated?  I can help with this.

Good idea and yes, your help is welcome. I'm a bit curious though
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 Regards,

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On 2013-01-20 20:15 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Try it with a semi-colon:
> 
> look a bit more carefully.  i did.  i just could not resist teasing
> henrik for his not testing :)

:-P


	Henrik 	,:-))
	




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On 2013-01-20 20:15 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Try it with a semi-colon:
> 
> look a bit more carefully.  i did.  i just could not resist teasing
> henrik for his not testing :)

:-P


	Henrik 	,:-))
	




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On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>=20
> On 2013-01-20 17:58 Paul Hoffman said the following:
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.3.11, available for =
download
>>> from:
>>>=20
>>>  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>>  http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
>>=20
>> For those of us who installed 2.3.10 yesterday :-), are there =
instructions for easy updating?
>=20
> On the command-line, with or without 'sudo' depending on your setup, =
do
>=20
>  pip install xml2rfc --upgrade
>=20
> or alternatively, download the package, cd into the unpacked top =
directory, and do
>=20
>  python setup.py install
>=20
> and you should be good.

But, as Randy points out, am not.

# python --version
Python 2.7.2
# python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
2.7.2
# python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
0.6c12

--Paul Hoffman=

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On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
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> Hi Paul,
>=20
> On 2013-01-20 17:58 Paul Hoffman said the following:
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.3.11, available for =
download
>>> from:
>>>=20
>>>  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>>  http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
>>=20
>> For those of us who installed 2.3.10 yesterday :-), are there =
instructions for easy updating?
>=20
> On the command-line, with or without 'sudo' depending on your setup, =
do
>=20
>  pip install xml2rfc --upgrade
>=20
> or alternatively, download the package, cd into the unpacked top =
directory, and do
>=20
>  python setup.py install
>=20
> and you should be good.

But, as Randy points out, am not.

# python --version
Python 2.7.2
# python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
2.7.2
# python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
0.6c12

--Paul Hoffman=

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> I'm sorry, my mistake, please instead do

though not known for subtlety, evidently i was too subtle

> 20:14 /tmp
> henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
> 2.7.3
> 
> 20:14 /tmp
> henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
> 0.6c12
> 
> If you find versions substantially below these (not likely with distutils, but
> could be the case with setuptools) it would be good to get a newer versions.
> 
> I had problems with the parsing of the dependency list in setup.py on os-x
> before I fetched a newer version of pip... ]]
>
>> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
>> 2.7.2
>> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
>> 0.6c12

so how do i upgrade distutils on mtn lion?  i believe that have the cli
tools for the latest xcode.

randy

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 20:15 Randy Bush said the following:
>> > ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
>> > 0.6c12

Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
with pip, which might produce better results.  pip also has has an option
'--no-dependencies' which I don't have an equivalent option for using
'python setup.py'; that would let you install 2.2.8 <= lxml < 3.0 separately,
and then install xml2rfc without its dependencies.

[ Grmph.  Package install tool troubles.  Grmph.  debian/rules! ]


Best regards,

	Henrik

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 20:15 Randy Bush said the following:
>> > ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
>> > 0.6c12

Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
with pip, which might produce better results.  pip also has has an option
'--no-dependencies' which I don't have an equivalent option for using
'python setup.py'; that would let you install 2.2.8 <= lxml < 3.0 separately,
and then install xml2rfc without its dependencies.

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On 01/20/2013 11:20 AM, Miek Gieben wrote:
> [ Quoting <petithug@acm.org> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
>>> it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for
>>> Ubuntu, for those inclined: 
>>> http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> 
>> That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5 
>> package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.
> 
> Ah... I never actually made the time to understand how Debian's diversion 
> scheme would work.

Unfortunately, I did :-)

Send me directly a tarball of your debian/*, and I'll update it for you.

> 
>> A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.
>> 
>> Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is 
>> automatically updated?  I can help with this.
> 
> Good idea and yes, your help is welcome.

OK, I already have a repository at debian.implementers.org for my own public
package, but perhaps a different name is better.  Choose a subdomain of
implementers.org, send me your ssh public key file and I'll setup everything.

> I'm a bit curious though as what should actually be packaged for
> pandoc2rfc? In essence it is just 1 file: transform.xsl ?

I was thinking about adding a wrapper so one can directly run "pandoc2rfc
file.mkd".  The Debian package would ensure that the correct versions of
xml2rfc and xsltproc are installed.


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On 01/20/2013 11:20 AM, Miek Gieben wrote:
> [ Quoting <petithug@acm.org> in "Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: ..." ]
>>> it's working fine on Ubuntu (12.10). In fact I created a .deb for
>>> Ubuntu, for those inclined: 
>>> http://miek.nl/downloads/2013/python-xml2rfc_2.3.11-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>> 
>> That's great, but the xml2rfc executable clashes with the xml2rfc 1.36-5 
>> package that is already in Debian.  Using a diversion would fix that.
> 
> Ah... I never actually made the time to understand how Debian's diversion 
> scheme would work.

Unfortunately, I did :-)

Send me directly a tarball of your debian/*, and I'll update it for you.

> 
>> A Debian package for pandoc2rfc would be great too.
>> 
>> Also, what about publishing them in a repository, so the package is 
>> automatically updated?  I can help with this.
> 
> Good idea and yes, your help is welcome.

OK, I already have a repository at debian.implementers.org for my own public
package, but perhaps a different name is better.  Choose a subdomain of
implementers.org, send me your ssh public key file and I'll setup everything.

> I'm a bit curious though as what should actually be packaged for
> pandoc2rfc? In essence it is just 1 file: transform.xsl ?

I was thinking about adding a wrapper so one can directly run "pandoc2rfc
file.mkd".  The Debian package would ensure that the correct versions of
xml2rfc and xsltproc are installed.


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> Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
> with pip, which might produce better results.

and then again, it might not :)

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install xml2rfc
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
    working_set.require(__requires__)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
    needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
    raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

> pip also has has an option '--no-dependencies' Which I don't have an
> equivalent option for using 'python setup.py'; that would let you
> install 2.2.8 <= lxml < 3.0 separately, and then install xml2rfc
> without its dependencies.

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install libxml
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
    working_set.require(__requires__)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
    needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
    raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

> [ Grmph.  Package install tool troubles.  Grmph.  debian/rules! ]

debian breaks my 30 years of unix fingers.  and ls in color?  puhleeze!

randy

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> Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
> with pip, which might produce better results.

and then again, it might not :)

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install xml2rfc
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
    working_set.require(__requires__)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
    needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
    raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

> pip also has has an option '--no-dependencies' Which I don't have an
> equivalent option for using 'python setup.py'; that would let you
> install 2.2.8 <= lxml < 3.0 separately, and then install xml2rfc
> without its dependencies.

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install libxml
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
    working_set.require(__requires__)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
    needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
    raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

> [ Grmph.  Package install tool troubles.  Grmph.  debian/rules! ]

debian breaks my 30 years of unix fingers.  and ls in color?  puhleeze!

randy

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 20:25 Randy Bush said the following:
>> I'm sorry, my mistake, please instead do
> 
> though not known for subtlety, evidently i was too subtle

Oh, I got it, eventually ,;-)

>> 20:14 /tmp
>> henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
>> 2.7.3
>> 
>> 20:14 /tmp
>> henrik@vigonier $ python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
>> 0.6c12
>> 
>> If you find versions substantially below these (not likely with distutils, but
>> could be the case with setuptools) it would be good to get a newer versions.
>> 
>> I had problems with the parsing of the dependency list in setup.py on os-x
>> before I fetched a newer version of pip... ]]
>>
>>> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> python -c 'import distutils; print distutils.__version__'
>>> 2.7.2
>>> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy>  python -c 'import setuptools; print setuptools.__version__'
>>> 0.6c12
> 
> so how do i upgrade distutils on mtn lion?  i believe that have the cli
> tools for the latest xcode.

Your versions look good; see my suggestion in my previous mail about using
pip.


This is of course not a great answer; I'd like to find out how to do things
better.

Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.



Best regards,

	Henrik

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> Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
> parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.

mehr besser!  and the resulting xml2rfc ran on my i-d.xml!!!

owe you an espresso, berlin i guess

randy

ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# mv ~randy/Desktop/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3.tar.gz ../distfiles/
ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# tar xf ../distfiles/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3.tar.gz
ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# cd xml2rfc-2.3.11.3/
ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3# python setup.py install
running install
running bdist_egg
running egg_info
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writing xml2rfc.egg-info/PKG-INFO
writing top-level names to xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt
writing dependency_links to xml2rfc.egg-info/dependency_links.txt
reading manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
reading manifest template 'MANIFEST.in'
warning: no files found matching 'README.*'
writing manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
installing library code to build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg
running install_lib
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copying xml2rfc/parser.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
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creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
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copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/base.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/html.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
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copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
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byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/base.py to base.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py to expanded_xml.pyc
byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/html.py to html.pyc
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byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py to paginated_txt.pyc
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creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
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copying xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
zip_safe flag not set; analyzing archive contents...
xml2rfc.parser: module references __file__
xml2rfc.writers.html: module references __file__
creating dist
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removing 'build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg' (and everything under it)
Processing xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg
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Removing xml2rfc 2.3.11.2 from easy-install.pth file
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On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:

> Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
> parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.

That fixed it for me.

--Paul Hoffman

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 20:38 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
>> with pip, which might produce better results.
> 
> and then again, it might not :)
> 
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install xml2rfc
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
>     working_set.require(__requires__)
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
>     needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
>     raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

If I understand this correctly (and I'm not certain I do), you have two versions
of pip installed, and the versions of the invocation script doesn't agree with
the installed package version.  I'd first do pip uninstall pip, then see if there's
still a pip script available, and remove that and any package (try this to get
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Once you don't have any pip script or package, choose your favourite install
method and install pip using that.

(For me, I always prefer debian packages first, then fall back to pip installs,
but as you've noted, YMMV ,;-)

Best regards,

	Henrik

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Hi Randy,

On 2013-01-20 20:38 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Hmm.  In this case, I really don't know what to suggest next, except trying
>> with pip, which might produce better results.
> 
> and then again, it might not :)
> 
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.2# pip install xml2rfc
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 2603, in <module>
>     working_set.require(__requires__)
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require
>     needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve
>     raise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here
> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

If I understand this correctly (and I'm not certain I do), you have two versions
of pip installed, and the versions of the invocation script doesn't agree with
the installed package version.  I'd first do pip uninstall pip, then see if there's
still a pip script available, and remove that and any package (try this to get
the package path: $ python -c 'import pip; print pip.__path__')

Once you don't have any pip script or package, choose your favourite install
method and install pip using that.

(For me, I always prefer debian packages first, then fall back to pip installs,
but as you've noted, YMMV ,;-)

Best regards,

	Henrik

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On 2013-01-20 20:46 Randy Bush said the following:
>> Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
>> parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.
> 
> mehr besser!  and the resulting xml2rfc ran on my i-d.xml!!!

Ok, cool! :-))


	Henrik

> 
> owe you an espresso, berlin i guess
> 
> randy
> 
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# mv ~randy/Desktop/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3.tar.gz ../distfiles/
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# tar xf ../distfiles/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3.tar.gz
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc# cd xml2rfc-2.3.11.3/
> ryuu.psg.com:/usr/local/src/misc/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3# python setup.py install
> running install
> running bdist_egg
> running egg_info
> writing requirements to xml2rfc.egg-info/requires.txt
> writing xml2rfc.egg-info/PKG-INFO
> writing top-level names to xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt
> writing dependency_links to xml2rfc.egg-info/dependency_links.txt
> reading manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
> reading manifest template 'MANIFEST.in'
> warning: no files found matching 'README.*'
> writing manifest file 'xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt'
> installing library code to build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg
> running install_lib
> running build_py
> creating build
> creating build/lib
> creating build/lib/xml2rfc
> copying xml2rfc/__init__.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
> copying xml2rfc/log.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
> copying xml2rfc/parser.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
> copying xml2rfc/utils.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc
> creating build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/base.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/html.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> copying xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py -> build/lib/xml2rfc/writers
> creating build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> copying xml2rfc/templates/address_card.html -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> copying xml2rfc/templates/base.html -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-other.ent -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-xhtml.ent -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> copying xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629.dtd -> build/lib/xml2rfc/templates
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/__init__.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/log.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/parser.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/address_card.html -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/base.html -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-other.ent -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629-xhtml.ent -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/templates/rfc2629.dtd -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/templates
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/utils.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/base.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/html.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> copying build/lib/xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/__init__.py to __init__.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/log.py to log.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/parser.py to parser.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/utils.py to utils.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py to __init__.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/base.py to base.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/expanded_xml.py to expanded_xml.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/html.py to html.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/nroff.py to nroff.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/paginated_txt.py to paginated_txt.pyc
> byte-compiling build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/xml2rfc/writers/raw_txt.py to raw_txt.pyc
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> installing scripts to build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
> running install_scripts
> running build_scripts
> creating build/scripts-2.7
> copying and adjusting scripts/xml2rfc -> build/scripts-2.7
> changing mode of build/scripts-2.7/xml2rfc from 644 to 755
> creating build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
> copying build/scripts-2.7/xml2rfc -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts
> changing mode of build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/xml2rfc to 755
> copying xml2rfc.egg-info/PKG-INFO -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> copying xml2rfc.egg-info/SOURCES.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> copying xml2rfc.egg-info/dependency_links.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> copying xml2rfc.egg-info/requires.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> copying xml2rfc.egg-info/top_level.txt -> build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg/EGG-INFO
> zip_safe flag not set; analyzing archive contents...
> xml2rfc.parser: module references __file__
> xml2rfc.writers.html: module references __file__
> creating dist
> creating 'dist/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg' and adding 'build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg' to it
> removing 'build/bdist.macosx-10.8-intel/egg' (and everything under it)
> Processing xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg
> creating /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg
> Extracting xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg to /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
> Removing xml2rfc 2.3.11.2 from easy-install.pth file
> Adding xml2rfc 2.3.11.3 to easy-install.pth file
> Installing xml2rfc script to /usr/local/bin
> 
> Installed /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc-2.3.11.3-py2.7.egg
> Processing dependencies for xml2rfc==2.3.11.3
> Searching for lxml>=2.2.8,<2.9
> Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/lxml/
> Reading http://codespeak.net/lxml
> Reading http://lxml.de/
> Best match: lxml 2.3.6
> Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/l/lxml/lxml-2.3.6.tar.gz
> Processing lxml-2.3.6.tar.gz
> Running lxml-2.3.6/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir /tmp/easy_install-Bu4SGP/lxml-2.3.6/egg-dist-tmp-Gf4MIO
> Building lxml version 2.3.6.
> Building without Cython.
> Using build configuration of libxslt 1.1.26
> Removing lxml 3.0.1 from easy-install.pth file
> Adding lxml 2.3.6 to easy-install.pth file
> 
> Installed /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/lxml-2.3.6-py2.7-macosx-10.8-intel.egg
> Finished processing dependencies for xml2rfc==2.3.11.3
> 
> 

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On 2013-01-20 20:48 Paul Hoffman said the following:
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
>> parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.
> 
> That fixed it for me.

Splendid! :-)


	Henrik


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Hi.

I just tried out 2.3.11.3 installation (after my problems with 2.3.10 
yesterday - tickets 97/98).
Seems to have fixed some of the problems - pip installation now works 
(more or less).
I take it that lxml version 3.x is not kosher for xml2rfc since you 
exclude it now... lxml 3.1beta1 downloaded and compiled Ok yesterday but 
I now have 2.3.6 for use with xml2rfc 2.3.11.x

BTW
the machine here is running
Ubuntu 10.04 on an old ASUS EEE-PC 1000 (Atom processor)
Python 2.6
setuptools 0.8
distutils 2.6.5


Both
sudo python setup.py install
and
sudo pip install xml2rfc --upgrade

work more or less as expected.  There are 3 minor issues;
1. The internal version of the version in the 2.3.11.3 package still 
reports itself as 2.3.11.1 with xml2rfc --version
2. If you don't have libxml2 and libxslt dev packages installed on 
Ubuntu lxml won't compile.
3.  There are still some minor issues with the install... transcript of 
pip install beloe:
  sudo pip install xml2rfc --upgrade
Downloading/unpacking xml2rfc
   Running setup.py egg_info for package xml2rfc
     warning: no files found matching 'README.*'
Downloading/unpacking lxml>=2.2.8,<2.9 (from xml2rfc)
   Could not fetch URL http://codespeak.net/lxml (from 
http://pypi.python.org/simple/lxml/): HTTP Error 404: Not Found
   Will skip URL http://codespeak.net/lxml when looking for download 
links for lxml>=2.2.8,<2.9 (from xml2rfc)
   Could not fetch URL http://codespeak.net/lxml (from 
http://pypi.python.org/simple/lxml/): HTTP Error 404: Not Found
   Will skip URL http://codespeak.net/lxml when looking for download 
links for lxml>=2.2.8,<2.9 (from xml2rfc)
   Downloading lxml-2.3.6.tar.gz (3.2Mb): 3.2Mb downloaded
   Running setup.py egg_info for package lxml
     Building lxml version 2.3.6.
     Building without Cython.
     Using build configuration of libxslt 1.1.26
     Building against libxml2/libxslt in the following directory: /usr/lib
     warning: no previously-included files found matching '*.py'
Installing collected packages: lxml, xml2rfc
   Running setup.py install for xml2rfc
     changing mode of build/scripts-2.6/xml2rfc from 644 to 755
     warning: no files found matching 'README.*'
     changing mode of /usr/local/bin/xml2rfc to 755
   Running setup.py install for lxml
     Building lxml version 2.3.6.
     Building without Cython.
     Using build configuration of libxslt 1.1.26
     Building against libxml2/libxslt in the following directory: /usr/lib
     building 'lxml.etree' extension
     gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/libxml2 
-I/usr/include/python2.6 -c src/lxml/lxml.etree.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/src/lxml/lxml.etree.o -w
     gcc -pthread -shared -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/src/lxml/lxml.etree.o -lxslt -lexslt -lxml2 
-lz -lm -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/lxml/etree.so
     building 'lxml.objectify' extension
     gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/libxml2 
-I/usr/include/python2.6 -c src/lxml/lxml.objectify.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/src/lxml/lxml.objectify.o -w
     gcc -pthread -shared -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.6/src/lxml/lxml.objectify.o -lxslt -lexslt 
-lxml2 -lz -lm -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/lxml/objectify.so
Successfully installed xml2rfc

Seems to work basically, BUT found a few slight differences with this 
version.
- centre field in footer is one character leftwards of 1.35 version
- hangindent=15 produces slightly different answers -- more white space 
between label and rest of text
- Reporting a reference not found as an 'IDREF not found' when it isn't 
an I-D is confusing.

Will do a proper report shortly.

Found a problem with an slightly old and very complicated draft that 
doesn't work in either 1.35 or 2.3.11.3 (in similar ways). Probably 
something to do with
<!ENTITY % rfc2629 PUBLIC "" 
"http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2629.xml">
which used to work when
  http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-routing-reqs-11.xml was published 
back in February 2009 but no longer
finds a number of the RFC references after the 3 described with PUBLIC 
(which seem to be found) and the rest are described with SYSTEM.

I am away from home and don't have access to an old xml2rfc to check 
that the old draft compiled on the old xml2rfc.

Regards,
Elwyn

On 20/01/13 19:51, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> On 2013-01-20 20:48 Paul Hoffman said the following:
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fwiw, I've uploaded 2.3.11.3 which requires lxml < 2.9; but if the version
>>> parsing is broken, I'm not sure that will help.
>> That fixed it for me.
> Splendid! :-)
>
>
> 	Henrik
>
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Hi Elwyn,

On 2013-01-20 23:42 Elwyn Davies said:
> Hi.
> 
> I just tried out 2.3.11.3 installation (after my problems with 2.3.10 
> yesterday - tickets 97/98).
> Seems to have fixed some of the problems - pip installation now works 
> (more or less).
> I take it that lxml version 3.x is not kosher for xml2rfc since you 
> exclude it now... lxml 3.1beta1 downloaded and compiled Ok yesterday but 
> I now have 2.3.6 for use with xml2rfc 2.3.11.x

I excluded 3.x because I hadn't tested xml2rfc with it, and didn't want
to do a release which pronounced it to be OK even if there might be
problems with it.

Assuming testing works, I'll allow it in the next release (but it looks
like I might have to exclude the 3.1 beta if they don't have the dependency
list in order)

> BTW
> the machine here is running
> Ubuntu 10.04 on an old ASUS EEE-PC 1000 (Atom processor)
> Python 2.6
> setuptools 0.8
> distutils 2.6.5
> 
> 
> Both
> sudo python setup.py install
> and
> sudo pip install xml2rfc --upgrade
> 
> work more or less as expected.  There are 3 minor issues;
> 1. The internal version of the version in the 2.3.11.3 package still 
> reports itself as 2.3.11.1 with xml2rfc --version

Right, I was a bit hurried with the 2.3.11.x minor releases, so missed
updating the version in one place.

> 2. If you don't have libxml2 and libxslt dev packages installed on 
> Ubuntu lxml won't compile.

Hm.  That's probably a bug in lxml's build dependencies, then.  I don't
know if  I should put in a guard for that in xml2rfc (I really shouldn't,
but might still do so it temporarily as a workaround).

> 3.  There are still some minor issues with the install... transcript of 
> pip install beloe:
>   sudo pip install xml2rfc --upgrade
> Downloading/unpacking xml2rfc
>    Running setup.py egg_info for package xml2rfc
>      warning: no files found matching 'README.*'

Right.  Already fixed in my sourcetree.

... <<snip>>

> Successfully installed xml2rfc
> 
> Seems to work basically, BUT found a few slight differences with this 
> version.
> - centre field in footer is one character leftwards of 1.35 version

Yes.  I can't make it come out exactly as 1.35 because of different
handling of centering in odd vs. even field widths, unless I override
Python's string centering, which I think is silly.

> - hangindent=15 produces slightly different answers -- more white space 
> between label and rest of text

Ah.  I'll have a look at that.

> - Reporting a reference not found as an 'IDREF not found' when it isn't 
> an I-D is confusing.

Could you send me sample source for that, please?

> Will do a proper report shortly.

Ah, ok; thanks!

> Found a problem with an slightly old and very complicated draft that 
> doesn't work in either 1.35 or 2.3.11.3 (in similar ways). Probably 
> something to do with
> <!ENTITY % rfc2629 PUBLIC "" 
> "http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2629.xml">
> which used to work when
>   http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-routing-reqs-11.xml was published 
> back in February 2009 but no longer
> finds a number of the RFC references after the 3 described with PUBLIC 
> (which seem to be found) and the rest are described with SYSTEM.

Ok.

> I am away from home and don't have access to an old xml2rfc to check 
> that the old draft compiled on the old xml2rfc.

Ok.


Thanks for the report!


Best regards,

	Henrik

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Is a web version available for those of us who just use the one on 
http://xml.resource.org/

	Thanks,
	Paul

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In version 2.3.11.1, hangText does not seem to work.

For example, the XML=20

 <t><list style=3D"hanging">
            <t hangText=3D"Foo:"> Bar </t>
</list></t>

Ends up rendering just Bar in txt file but what I wanted was=20

     Foo: Bar=20

Thanks, Cullen=20

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Sorry, I did not have this correct - the example below works. It seems the =
problem is more when the text is empty so something like=20

   <t hangText=3D"destination_data "></t>

   <t>The destination value itself, which is an encoded
                DestinationData structure, depending on the value of
                "type".</t>

Looses the destination_data in the txt output=20



On Jan 28, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:

>=20
> In version 2.3.11.1, hangText does not seem to work.
>=20
> For example, the XML=20
>=20
> <t><list style=3D"hanging">
>            <t hangText=3D"Foo:"> Bar </t>
> </list></t>
>=20
> Ends up rendering just Bar in txt file but what I wanted was=20
>=20
>     Foo: Bar=20
>=20
> Thanks, Cullen=20


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It will take "1/4" and split it across two lines.



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It seems to take  a symbolic reference such as [I-D.ietf-p2psip-self-tuning=
] and split it on the "." so it is split across lines. =

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On 1/28/13 8:30 AM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I did not have this correct - the example below works. It
> seems the problem is more when the text is empty so something like
> 
> 
> <t hangText="destination_data "></t>
> 
> <t>The destination value itself, which is an encoded 
> DestinationData structure, depending on the value of "type".</t>
> 
> Looses the destination_data in the txt output

Because hangText doesn't work that way. For the output you want, use this:

   <t hangText="destination_data ">The destination value itself, which
is an encoded
                DestinationData structure, depending on the value of
                "type".</t>

If you want line breaks in there, use <vspace blankLines='1'/>.

Peter

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This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for download
from:

   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
   http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

With this release, all issues against the 2.x series of xml2rfc has been
resolved.  Without doubt there will be new issues in the issue tracker,
but the current clean slate is nice to have :-)

For full details on all tickets, there's always the issue tracker:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/.  An extract
from the commit log is available below.

Enjoy!


	Henrik

--------

  Release notes: 

  * In some cases, the error messages when validating an xml document are 
    correct, but too obscure.  If a required element is absent, the error 
    message could say for instance 'Element references content does not follow 
    the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got ', which is correct -- the DTD 
    validator  got nothing, when it required something, so it says 'got ', with 
    nothing after 'got'.  But for a regular user, we now add on 'nothing.' to 
    make things clearer.  Fixes issue #102.

  * It seems there could be a bug in separate invocation of 
    lxml.etree.DTD.validate(tree) after parsing, compared to doing parsing with 
    dtd_validation=True.  The former fails in a case when it shouldn't, while 
    the latter succeeds in validating a valid document.  Declaring validation 
    as successful if the dtd.error_log is empty, even if validation returned 
    False.  This resolves issue #103.

  * Factored out the code which gets an author's initials from the xml 
    author element, and made the get_initials() utility function return 
    initials fixed up with trailing spaces, if missing.  The current code does 
    not mangle initials by removing any initials but the first one.  Fixes 
    issue #63, closes issue #10.


  * Added code to avoid breaking URLs in boilerplate across lines.  Fixes 
    issue #78.
  * Added PI defaults for 'figurecount' and 'tablecount' (not listed in the 
    xml2rfc readme...)  Also removed coupling between explicitly set 
    rfcedstyle, compact, and subcompact settings, to follow v1 practice.

  * Refactored the PI defaults to appear all in the same place, rather than 
    spread out throughout the code.


  * Updated draw_table to insert blank rows when PI compact is 'no'. Fixes 
    issue #82.

  * Added tests and special handling for the case when a hanging type list 
    has less space left on the first line, after the bullet, than what's needed 
    for the first following word.  In that case, start the list text on the 
    following line.  Fixes issue #85.

  * Modified the page-breaking code to better keep section titles together 
    with the section text, and keep figure preamble, figure, postamble and 
    caption together.  Updated tests.  Fixes issue #100.

  * Added handling of tocdepth to the html writer.  Fixes issue #101.

  * Modified how the --base switch to the xml2rfc script works, to make it 
    easier to generate multiple output formats and place them all in the same 
    target directory.  Also changed the default extensions for two output 
    formats (.raw.txt and .exp.xml).

  * Tweaked the html template to not permit crazy wide pages.

  * Rewrote parts of the parsing in order to get hold of the number 
    attribute of the <rfc/> tag before the full parsing is done, in order to be 
    able to later resolve the &rfc.number; entity (which, based on how 
    convoluted it is to get that right, I'd like to deprecate.)  Fixes issue 
    #86.

  * Numerous small fixes to indentation and wrapping of references.  Avoid 
    wrapping URLs in references if possible.  Avoid wrapping 'Section 3.14.' if 
    possible.  Indent more like xml2rfc v1.

  * Added reduction of doublespaces in regular text, except when they might 
    be at the end of a sentence.  Xml2rfc v1 would do this, v2 didn't till now.

  * Generalized the _format_counter() method to consistently handle list 
    counter field-widths internally, and made it adjust the field-width to the 
    max counter width based on the list length and counter type.  Fixes an v1 
    to -v2 incompatibility for numbered lists with 10 items or more, and other 
    similar cases.

  * Added generic base conversion code, and used that to generate list 
    letters which will work for lists with more than 26 items.

  * Reworked code to render roman numerals in lists, to place whitespace 
    correctly in justification field.  Fixes issue #94.

  * Added consensus vs. no-consensus options for IAB RFCs' Status of This 
    Memo section.  Fixes issue #88.

  * Made <t/> elements with an anchor attribute generate html with an <a 
    name='...'/> elemnt, for linking.  Closes issue #67.

  * Applied boilerplate URL-splitting prevention only in the raw writer 
    where later do paragraph line-wrapping, instead of generically.  Fixes 
    issue #62.

  * Now permitting all versions of lxml >= 2.2.8, but notice that there may 
    be missing build dependencies for lxml 3.x which may cause installation of 
    lxml to fail.  (That's an lxml issue, rather than an xml2rfc issue, 
    though...)  This fixes issue #99.

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This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for download
from:

   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
   http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

With this release, all issues against the 2.x series of xml2rfc has been
resolved.  Without doubt there will be new issues in the issue tracker,
but the current clean slate is nice to have :-)

For full details on all tickets, there's always the issue tracker:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/.  An extract
from the commit log is available below.

Enjoy!


	Henrik

--------

  Release notes: 

  * In some cases, the error messages when validating an xml document are 
    correct, but too obscure.  If a required element is absent, the error 
    message could say for instance 'Element references content does not follow 
    the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got ', which is correct -- the DTD 
    validator  got nothing, when it required something, so it says 'got ', with 
    nothing after 'got'.  But for a regular user, we now add on 'nothing.' to 
    make things clearer.  Fixes issue #102.

  * It seems there could be a bug in separate invocation of 
    lxml.etree.DTD.validate(tree) after parsing, compared to doing parsing with 
    dtd_validation=True.  The former fails in a case when it shouldn't, while 
    the latter succeeds in validating a valid document.  Declaring validation 
    as successful if the dtd.error_log is empty, even if validation returned 
    False.  This resolves issue #103.

  * Factored out the code which gets an author's initials from the xml 
    author element, and made the get_initials() utility function return 
    initials fixed up with trailing spaces, if missing.  The current code does 
    not mangle initials by removing any initials but the first one.  Fixes 
    issue #63, closes issue #10.


  * Added code to avoid breaking URLs in boilerplate across lines.  Fixes 
    issue #78.
  * Added PI defaults for 'figurecount' and 'tablecount' (not listed in the 
    xml2rfc readme...)  Also removed coupling between explicitly set 
    rfcedstyle, compact, and subcompact settings, to follow v1 practice.

  * Refactored the PI defaults to appear all in the same place, rather than 
    spread out throughout the code.


  * Updated draw_table to insert blank rows when PI compact is 'no'. Fixes 
    issue #82.

  * Added tests and special handling for the case when a hanging type list 
    has less space left on the first line, after the bullet, than what's needed 
    for the first following word.  In that case, start the list text on the 
    following line.  Fixes issue #85.

  * Modified the page-breaking code to better keep section titles together 
    with the section text, and keep figure preamble, figure, postamble and 
    caption together.  Updated tests.  Fixes issue #100.

  * Added handling of tocdepth to the html writer.  Fixes issue #101.

  * Modified how the --base switch to the xml2rfc script works, to make it 
    easier to generate multiple output formats and place them all in the same 
    target directory.  Also changed the default extensions for two output 
    formats (.raw.txt and .exp.xml).

  * Tweaked the html template to not permit crazy wide pages.

  * Rewrote parts of the parsing in order to get hold of the number 
    attribute of the <rfc/> tag before the full parsing is done, in order to be 
    able to later resolve the &rfc.number; entity (which, based on how 
    convoluted it is to get that right, I'd like to deprecate.)  Fixes issue 
    #86.

  * Numerous small fixes to indentation and wrapping of references.  Avoid 
    wrapping URLs in references if possible.  Avoid wrapping 'Section 3.14.' if 
    possible.  Indent more like xml2rfc v1.

  * Added reduction of doublespaces in regular text, except when they might 
    be at the end of a sentence.  Xml2rfc v1 would do this, v2 didn't till now.

  * Generalized the _format_counter() method to consistently handle list 
    counter field-widths internally, and made it adjust the field-width to the 
    max counter width based on the list length and counter type.  Fixes an v1 
    to -v2 incompatibility for numbered lists with 10 items or more, and other 
    similar cases.

  * Added generic base conversion code, and used that to generate list 
    letters which will work for lists with more than 26 items.

  * Reworked code to render roman numerals in lists, to place whitespace 
    correctly in justification field.  Fixes issue #94.

  * Added consensus vs. no-consensus options for IAB RFCs' Status of This 
    Memo section.  Fixes issue #88.

  * Made <t/> elements with an anchor attribute generate html with an <a 
    name='...'/> elemnt, for linking.  Closes issue #67.

  * Applied boilerplate URL-splitting prevention only in the raw writer 
    where later do paragraph line-wrapping, instead of generically.  Fixes 
    issue #62.

  * Now permitting all versions of lxml >= 2.2.8, but notice that there may 
    be missing build dependencies for lxml 3.x which may cause installation of 
    lxml to fail.  (That's an lxml issue, rather than an xml2rfc issue, 
    though...)  This fixes issue #99.

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[ Quoting <henrik@levkowetz.com> in "[xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: 2.4....=
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> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for downlo=
ad
> from:
>=20
>    http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>    http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

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[ Quoting <henrik@levkowetz.com> in "[xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: 2.4....=
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> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for downlo=
ad
> from:
>=20
>    http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>    http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/

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On 2013-01-29 22:24 Miek Gieben said the following:
> [ Quoting <henrik@levkowetz.com> in "[xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: 2.4...." ]
>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for download
>> from:
>> 
>>    http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>    http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
> 
> debs at:
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> http://pandoc2rfc.implementers.org/testing/all/
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> (hat tip to Marc Petit-Huguenin)

Wow!  That was fast!


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Is, or will, this be available to those of us who use xml2rfc from 
http://xml.resource.org/?

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 1/29/13 3:43 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>
> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for download
> from:
>
>     http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>     http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
>
> With this release, all issues against the 2.x series of xml2rfc has been
> resolved.  Without doubt there will be new issues in the issue tracker,
> but the current clean slate is nice to have :-)
>
> For full details on all tickets, there's always the issue tracker:
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/.  An extract
> from the commit log is available below.
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> 	Henrik
>
> --------
>
>    Release notes:
>
>    * In some cases, the error messages when validating an xml document are
>      correct, but too obscure.  If a required element is absent, the error
>      message could say for instance 'Element references content does not follow
>      the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got ', which is correct -- the DTD
>      validator  got nothing, when it required something, so it says 'got ', with
>      nothing after 'got'.  But for a regular user, we now add on 'nothing.' to
>      make things clearer.  Fixes issue #102.
>
>    * It seems there could be a bug in separate invocation of
>      lxml.etree.DTD.validate(tree) after parsing, compared to doing parsing with
>      dtd_validation=True.  The former fails in a case when it shouldn't, while
>      the latter succeeds in validating a valid document.  Declaring validation
>      as successful if the dtd.error_log is empty, even if validation returned
>      False.  This resolves issue #103.
>
>    * Factored out the code which gets an author's initials from the xml
>      author element, and made the get_initials() utility function return
>      initials fixed up with trailing spaces, if missing.  The current code does
>      not mangle initials by removing any initials but the first one.  Fixes
>      issue #63, closes issue #10.
>
>
>    * Added code to avoid breaking URLs in boilerplate across lines.  Fixes
>      issue #78.
>    * Added PI defaults for 'figurecount' and 'tablecount' (not listed in the
>      xml2rfc readme...)  Also removed coupling between explicitly set
>      rfcedstyle, compact, and subcompact settings, to follow v1 practice.
>
>    * Refactored the PI defaults to appear all in the same place, rather than
>      spread out throughout the code.
>
>
>    * Updated draw_table to insert blank rows when PI compact is 'no'. Fixes
>      issue #82.
>
>    * Added tests and special handling for the case when a hanging type list
>      has less space left on the first line, after the bullet, than what's needed
>      for the first following word.  In that case, start the list text on the
>      following line.  Fixes issue #85.
>
>    * Modified the page-breaking code to better keep section titles together
>      with the section text, and keep figure preamble, figure, postamble and
>      caption together.  Updated tests.  Fixes issue #100.
>
>    * Added handling of tocdepth to the html writer.  Fixes issue #101.
>
>    * Modified how the --base switch to the xml2rfc script works, to make it
>      easier to generate multiple output formats and place them all in the same
>      target directory.  Also changed the default extensions for two output
>      formats (.raw.txt and .exp.xml).
>
>    * Tweaked the html template to not permit crazy wide pages.
>
>    * Rewrote parts of the parsing in order to get hold of the number
>      attribute of the <rfc/> tag before the full parsing is done, in order to be
>      able to later resolve the &rfc.number; entity (which, based on how
>      convoluted it is to get that right, I'd like to deprecate.)  Fixes issue
>      #86.
>
>    * Numerous small fixes to indentation and wrapping of references.  Avoid
>      wrapping URLs in references if possible.  Avoid wrapping 'Section 3.14.' if
>      possible.  Indent more like xml2rfc v1.
>
>    * Added reduction of doublespaces in regular text, except when they might
>      be at the end of a sentence.  Xml2rfc v1 would do this, v2 didn't till now.
>
>    * Generalized the _format_counter() method to consistently handle list
>      counter field-widths internally, and made it adjust the field-width to the
>      max counter width based on the list length and counter type.  Fixes an v1
>      to -v2 incompatibility for numbered lists with 10 items or more, and other
>      similar cases.
>
>    * Added generic base conversion code, and used that to generate list
>      letters which will work for lists with more than 26 items.
>
>    * Reworked code to render roman numerals in lists, to place whitespace
>      correctly in justification field.  Fixes issue #94.
>
>    * Added consensus vs. no-consensus options for IAB RFCs' Status of This
>      Memo section.  Fixes issue #88.
>
>    * Made <t/> elements with an anchor attribute generate html with an <a
>      name='...'/> elemnt, for linking.  Closes issue #67.
>
>    * Applied boilerplate URL-splitting prevention only in the raw writer
>      where later do paragraph line-wrapping, instead of generically.  Fixes
>      issue #62.
>
>    * Now permitting all versions of lxml >= 2.2.8, but notice that there may
>      be missing build dependencies for lxml 3.x which may cause installation of
>      lxml to fail.  (That's an lxml issue, rather than an xml2rfc issue,
>      though...)  This fixes issue #99.
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: 2.4.0
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Yes, as soon as we can.

     Tony Hansen

On 1/29/2013 7:06 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> Is, or will, this be available to those of us who use xml2rfc from 
> http://xml.resource.org/?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Paul
>
> On 1/29/13 3:43 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>
>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for 
>> download
>> from:
>>
>>     http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>     http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
>>
>> With this release, all issues against the 2.x series of xml2rfc has been
>> resolved.  Without doubt there will be new issues in the issue tracker,
>> but the current clean slate is nice to have :-)
>>
>> For full details on all tickets, there's always the issue tracker:
>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/.  An extract
>> from the commit log is available below.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>>
>>     Henrik
>>
>> --------
>>
>>    Release notes:
>>
>>    * In some cases, the error messages when validating an xml 
>> document are
>>      correct, but too obscure.  If a required element is absent, the 
>> error
>>      message could say for instance 'Element references content does 
>> not follow
>>      the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got ', which is correct -- the DTD
>>      validator  got nothing, when it required something, so it says 
>> 'got ', with
>>      nothing after 'got'.  But for a regular user, we now add on 
>> 'nothing.' to
>>      make things clearer.  Fixes issue #102.
>>
>>    * It seems there could be a bug in separate invocation of
>>      lxml.etree.DTD.validate(tree) after parsing, compared to doing 
>> parsing with
>>      dtd_validation=True.  The former fails in a case when it 
>> shouldn't, while
>>      the latter succeeds in validating a valid document. Declaring 
>> validation
>>      as successful if the dtd.error_log is empty, even if validation 
>> returned
>>      False.  This resolves issue #103.
>>
>>    * Factored out the code which gets an author's initials from the xml
>>      author element, and made the get_initials() utility function return
>>      initials fixed up with trailing spaces, if missing.  The current 
>> code does
>>      not mangle initials by removing any initials but the first one.  
>> Fixes
>>      issue #63, closes issue #10.
>>
>>
>>    * Added code to avoid breaking URLs in boilerplate across lines.  
>> Fixes
>>      issue #78.
>>    * Added PI defaults for 'figurecount' and 'tablecount' (not listed 
>> in the
>>      xml2rfc readme...)  Also removed coupling between explicitly set
>>      rfcedstyle, compact, and subcompact settings, to follow v1 
>> practice.
>>
>>    * Refactored the PI defaults to appear all in the same place, 
>> rather than
>>      spread out throughout the code.
>>
>>
>>    * Updated draw_table to insert blank rows when PI compact is 'no'. 
>> Fixes
>>      issue #82.
>>
>>    * Added tests and special handling for the case when a hanging 
>> type list
>>      has less space left on the first line, after the bullet, than 
>> what's needed
>>      for the first following word.  In that case, start the list text 
>> on the
>>      following line.  Fixes issue #85.
>>
>>    * Modified the page-breaking code to better keep section titles 
>> together
>>      with the section text, and keep figure preamble, figure, 
>> postamble and
>>      caption together.  Updated tests.  Fixes issue #100.
>>
>>    * Added handling of tocdepth to the html writer.  Fixes issue #101.
>>
>>    * Modified how the --base switch to the xml2rfc script works, to 
>> make it
>>      easier to generate multiple output formats and place them all in 
>> the same
>>      target directory.  Also changed the default extensions for two 
>> output
>>      formats (.raw.txt and .exp.xml).
>>
>>    * Tweaked the html template to not permit crazy wide pages.
>>
>>    * Rewrote parts of the parsing in order to get hold of the number
>>      attribute of the <rfc/> tag before the full parsing is done, in 
>> order to be
>>      able to later resolve the &rfc.number; entity (which, based on how
>>      convoluted it is to get that right, I'd like to deprecate.)  
>> Fixes issue
>>      #86.
>>
>>    * Numerous small fixes to indentation and wrapping of references.  
>> Avoid
>>      wrapping URLs in references if possible.  Avoid wrapping 
>> 'Section 3.14.' if
>>      possible.  Indent more like xml2rfc v1.
>>
>>    * Added reduction of doublespaces in regular text, except when 
>> they might
>>      be at the end of a sentence.  Xml2rfc v1 would do this, v2 
>> didn't till now.
>>
>>    * Generalized the _format_counter() method to consistently handle 
>> list
>>      counter field-widths internally, and made it adjust the 
>> field-width to the
>>      max counter width based on the list length and counter type.  
>> Fixes an v1
>>      to -v2 incompatibility for numbered lists with 10 items or more, 
>> and other
>>      similar cases.
>>
>>    * Added generic base conversion code, and used that to generate list
>>      letters which will work for lists with more than 26 items.
>>
>>    * Reworked code to render roman numerals in lists, to place 
>> whitespace
>>      correctly in justification field.  Fixes issue #94.
>>
>>    * Added consensus vs. no-consensus options for IAB RFCs' Status of 
>> This
>>      Memo section.  Fixes issue #88.
>>
>>    * Made <t/> elements with an anchor attribute generate html with 
>> an <a
>>      name='...'/> elemnt, for linking.  Closes issue #67.
>>
>>    * Applied boilerplate URL-splitting prevention only in the raw writer
>>      where later do paragraph line-wrapping, instead of generically.  
>> Fixes
>>      issue #62.
>>
>>    * Now permitting all versions of lxml >= 2.2.8, but notice that 
>> there may
>>      be missing build dependencies for lxml 3.x which may cause 
>> installation of
>>      lxml to fail.  (That's an lxml issue, rather than an xml2rfc issue,
>>      though...)  This fixes issue #99.
>> _______________________________________________
>> xml2rfc mailing list
>> xml2rfc@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc
>>
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http://xml.resource.org has been running 2.4.0 for a few hours now and 
seems to be working fine. The HTML files need to make it out to the 
various mirrors, but that shouldn't take long.

     Tony

On 1/29/2013 10:09 PM, Tony Hansen wrote:
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>
>     Tony Hansen
>
> On 1/29/2013 7:06 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> Is, or will, this be available to those of us who use xml2rfc from 
>> http://xml.resource.org/?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Paul
>>
>> On 1/29/13 3:43 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>>
>>> This announces the release of xml2rfc version 2.4.0, available for 
>>> download
>>> from:
>>>
>>>     http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc
>>>     http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/cli/
>>>
>>> With this release, all issues against the 2.x series of xml2rfc has 
>>> been
>>> resolved.  Without doubt there will be new issues in the issue tracker,
>>> but the current clean slate is nice to have :-)
>>>
>>> For full details on all tickets, there's always the issue tracker:
>>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/report/.  An extract
>>> from the commit log is available below.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>>
>>>     Henrik
>>>
>>> --------
>>>
>>>    Release notes:
>>>
>>>    * In some cases, the error messages when validating an xml 
>>> document are
>>>      correct, but too obscure.  If a required element is absent, the 
>>> error
>>>      message could say for instance 'Element references content does 
>>> not follow
>>>      the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got ', which is correct -- the 
>>> DTD
>>>      validator  got nothing, when it required something, so it says 
>>> 'got ', with
>>>      nothing after 'got'.  But for a regular user, we now add on 
>>> 'nothing.' to
>>>      make things clearer.  Fixes issue #102.
>>>
>>>    * It seems there could be a bug in separate invocation of
>>>      lxml.etree.DTD.validate(tree) after parsing, compared to doing 
>>> parsing with
>>>      dtd_validation=True.  The former fails in a case when it 
>>> shouldn't, while
>>>      the latter succeeds in validating a valid document. Declaring 
>>> validation
>>>      as successful if the dtd.error_log is empty, even if validation 
>>> returned
>>>      False.  This resolves issue #103.
>>>
>>>    * Factored out the code which gets an author's initials from the xml
>>>      author element, and made the get_initials() utility function 
>>> return
>>>      initials fixed up with trailing spaces, if missing.  The 
>>> current code does
>>>      not mangle initials by removing any initials but the first 
>>> one.  Fixes
>>>      issue #63, closes issue #10.
>>>
>>>
>>>    * Added code to avoid breaking URLs in boilerplate across lines.  
>>> Fixes
>>>      issue #78.
>>>    * Added PI defaults for 'figurecount' and 'tablecount' (not 
>>> listed in the
>>>      xml2rfc readme...)  Also removed coupling between explicitly set
>>>      rfcedstyle, compact, and subcompact settings, to follow v1 
>>> practice.
>>>
>>>    * Refactored the PI defaults to appear all in the same place, 
>>> rather than
>>>      spread out throughout the code.
>>>
>>>
>>>    * Updated draw_table to insert blank rows when PI compact is 
>>> 'no'. Fixes
>>>      issue #82.
>>>
>>>    * Added tests and special handling for the case when a hanging 
>>> type list
>>>      has less space left on the first line, after the bullet, than 
>>> what's needed
>>>      for the first following word.  In that case, start the list 
>>> text on the
>>>      following line.  Fixes issue #85.
>>>
>>>    * Modified the page-breaking code to better keep section titles 
>>> together
>>>      with the section text, and keep figure preamble, figure, 
>>> postamble and
>>>      caption together.  Updated tests.  Fixes issue #100.
>>>
>>>    * Added handling of tocdepth to the html writer.  Fixes issue #101.
>>>
>>>    * Modified how the --base switch to the xml2rfc script works, to 
>>> make it
>>>      easier to generate multiple output formats and place them all 
>>> in the same
>>>      target directory.  Also changed the default extensions for two 
>>> output
>>>      formats (.raw.txt and .exp.xml).
>>>
>>>    * Tweaked the html template to not permit crazy wide pages.
>>>
>>>    * Rewrote parts of the parsing in order to get hold of the number
>>>      attribute of the <rfc/> tag before the full parsing is done, in 
>>> order to be
>>>      able to later resolve the &rfc.number; entity (which, based on how
>>>      convoluted it is to get that right, I'd like to deprecate.)  
>>> Fixes issue
>>>      #86.
>>>
>>>    * Numerous small fixes to indentation and wrapping of 
>>> references.  Avoid
>>>      wrapping URLs in references if possible.  Avoid wrapping 
>>> 'Section 3.14.' if
>>>      possible.  Indent more like xml2rfc v1.
>>>
>>>    * Added reduction of doublespaces in regular text, except when 
>>> they might
>>>      be at the end of a sentence.  Xml2rfc v1 would do this, v2 
>>> didn't till now.
>>>
>>>    * Generalized the _format_counter() method to consistently handle 
>>> list
>>>      counter field-widths internally, and made it adjust the 
>>> field-width to the
>>>      max counter width based on the list length and counter type.  
>>> Fixes an v1
>>>      to -v2 incompatibility for numbered lists with 10 items or 
>>> more, and other
>>>      similar cases.
>>>
>>>    * Added generic base conversion code, and used that to generate list
>>>      letters which will work for lists with more than 26 items.
>>>
>>>    * Reworked code to render roman numerals in lists, to place 
>>> whitespace
>>>      correctly in justification field.  Fixes issue #94.
>>>
>>>    * Added consensus vs. no-consensus options for IAB RFCs' Status 
>>> of This
>>>      Memo section.  Fixes issue #88.
>>>
>>>    * Made <t/> elements with an anchor attribute generate html with 
>>> an <a
>>>      name='...'/> elemnt, for linking.  Closes issue #67.
>>>
>>>    * Applied boilerplate URL-splitting prevention only in the raw 
>>> writer
>>>      where later do paragraph line-wrapping, instead of 
>>> generically.  Fixes
>>>      issue #62.
>>>
>>>    * Now permitting all versions of lxml >= 2.2.8, but notice that 
>>> there may
>>>      be missing build dependencies for lxml 3.x which may cause 
>>> installation of
>>>      lxml to fail.  (That's an lxml issue, rather than an xml2rfc 
>>> issue,
>>>      though...)  This fixes issue #99.
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