From nobody Tue Aug 9 08:43:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7C212D63A for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:43:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iqs0wWDToYRF for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1934C12D639 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter31-d.gandi.net (mfilter31-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.162]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B44C5A55; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:43:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter31-d.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.194]) by mfilter31-d.gandi.net (mfilter31-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wXiCIuMqE-YE; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:43:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 93.199.227.76 Received: from nar-4.local (p5DC7E34C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.227.76]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A240C5A71; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:43:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57A9FA16.4040305@tzi.org> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 17:43:18 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] DOI literature reference extraction proof of concept X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 15:43:26 -0000 kramdown-rfc2629 version 1.0.32 contains an experimental new tool "doilit" for extracting literature entries from DOIs. Call doilit with one or more DOIs to obtain kramdown-rfc formatted reference entries (indented just right for dropping them into the references YAML): doilit 10.6028/NIST.SP.800-183 10.1016/j.adhoc.2015.04.007 10.1109/MIC.2012.29 10.1145/2507924.2507954 --- seriesinfo: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST): report DOI: 10.6028/nist.sp.800-183 title: Networks of 'things' author: - name: Jeffrey M Voas ins: J. Voas date: '2016' --- seriesinfo: Ad Hoc Networks: Vol. 33, pp. 126-139 DOI: 10.1016/j.adhoc.2015.04.007 title: 'CoCoA+: An advanced congestion control mechanism for CoAP' author: - name: August Betzler ins: A. Betzler - name: Carles Gomez ins: C. Gomez - name: Ilker Demirkol ins: I. Demirkol - name: Josep Paradells ins: J. Paradells date: 2015-10 --- seriesinfo: IEEE Internet Computing: Vol. 16, pp. 62-67 DOI: 10.1109/mic.2012.29 title: 'CoAP: An Application Protocol for Billions of Tiny Internet Nodes' author: - name: Carsten Bormann ins: C. Bormann - name: Angelo P. Castellani ins: A. Castellani - name: Zach Shelby ins: Z. Shelby date: 2012-03 --- seriesinfo: ? Proceedings of the 16th ACM international conference on Modeling, analysis & simulation of wireless and mobile systems - MSWiM '13 : '' DOI: 10.1145/2507924.2507954 title: Congestion control in reliable CoAP communication author: - name: August Betzler ins: A. Betzler - name: Carles Gomez ins: C. Gomez - name: Ilker Demirkol ins: I. Demirkol - name: Josep Paradells ins: J. Paradells date: '2013' Add -v to see the original JSON (readably presented as YAML as well). I believe this POC demonstrates that automatic extraction from the DOI database does not work. E.g., see the last example: The page numbers aren't in the DOI database, so they have to be added manually. In general, after extraction you want a manual pass to fix or add information. So I don't think that is something that xml2rfc should do as an automatic processing step. Feedback welcome (particularly with DOIs of your choice and comments on how doilit messes up the reference). Grüße, Carsten PS.: Get the experimental tool using gem update or, if you haven't installed kramdown-rfc yet, gem install kramdown-rfc2629 From nobody Mon Aug 22 13:23:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7821912D7F6 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id udo0nFkzJDt6 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B91B12D0C8 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43779 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bbvkd-0001qj-UA; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:23:19 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/318#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.9a572437d36a8726bfe068010a10087c@tools.ietf.org> References: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 318 In-Reply-To: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #318 (Version 2 cli): Bug in the online XML2RFC HTML output X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:23:22 -0000 #318: Bug in the online XML2RFC HTML output Comment (by worley@ariadne.com): Here's another instance of the problem: The third paragraph of section 4 of the HTML output generated for https://svn.resiprocate.org/rep/ietf- drafts/worley/draft-ietf-sipcore-dns-dual-stack-08.xml It appears that the error works in this way: When the paragraph has this structure: For example, consider a server with DNS name example.com, with TCP transport specified. The relevant SRV records for example.com are: [items] The processing of results in this ordered list of target domain names: [items] The address records for sip-1.example.com, as ordered by , are [items] and the address records for sip-2.example.com, as ordered by , are: the text output is correct. But the HTML structure is incorrect; it has the correct sequence of running text sections and lists, but the running text is placed into the running text sections incorrectly. Each of the latter running text sections is broken into two parts, where the part before the element is placed correctly, but the and the following text is appended to the first running text section. The output has this structure: For example, consider a server with DNS name example.com, with TCP transport specified. The relevant SRV records for example.com are: [RFC2782] results in this ordered list of target domain names: [RFC6724], are [RFC6724], are: [items] The processing of [items] The address records for sip-1.example.com, as ordered by [items] and the address records for sip-2.example.com, as ordered by -- ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: worley@ariadne.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.5.x Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Mon Aug 22 13:49:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C677112D7FB for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D9StWKF4uCCl for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A38212D5F6 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id bw7rbCss61XXBbwA0bC0uw; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:49:32 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([73.100.16.189]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id bw9ybABq2m7dBbw9zbb1si; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:49:32 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u7MKnTck029324; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:49:30 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id u7MKnSFx029313; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:49:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: xml2rfc@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> (trac@tools.ietf.org) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:49:27 -0400 Message-ID: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDKD5ZAqy12UfvBnwx2ftDqHN764KjdaorsdTOOU9YGptBSWZB/HNi9EjHo8LcLjE84MMSkjPGAiqTPl/bapmaHCrsj/rMI09SkWEllLGxgJJ2oZ21Sl yJ5t/ih01K45dUM/aYka2MiNka9Bv895IUSQE/SO4i+vJVg86udcKQ9ztWKM/FV+liKIH6Q6RQ290JVlPcDmfJ8az//6ZPfUhJU= Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:49:34 -0000 Is there any hope I can get someone to look at issue 318 fairly soon? We have a draft in IESG review that trips this bug (bad HTML output) and I'd like to have it fixed in time for its publication. I've managed to characterize the problem fairly closely; see the latest comment on the issue. Thanks, Dale From nobody Mon Aug 22 14:12:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE1C12B026 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:12:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abhCDYXg5QAr for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 798A6127071 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:54617 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bbwWA-0003HB-QP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:12:27 -0700 Message-ID: <57BB6AAF.5040002@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:12:15 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dale R. Worley" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9HHofjFDEGjo1r9w3jfi9BitmqR7hJA9x" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, worley@ariadne.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:12:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9HHofjFDEGjo1r9w3jfi9BitmqR7hJA9x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dale, On 2016-08-22 22:49, Dale R. Worley wrote: > Is there any hope I can get someone to look at issue 318 fairly soon? > We have a draft in IESG review that trips this bug (bad HTML output) an= d > I'd like to have it fixed in time for its publication. >=20 > I've managed to characterize the problem fairly closely; see the latest= > comment on the issue. I should be able to work on this end of next week. There are a few other= important fixes needed for xml2rfc, too. So say I'd say there's hope for= a fix in about 2 weeks. Best regards, Henrik --9HHofjFDEGjo1r9w3jfi9BitmqR7hJA9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXu2qwAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaVcUP/iY3nrRCXjrvpawkkeFU9hGw 65Iuhpu+vkJmNBq54Fnnn6sU9DFiDtl5rqgIBrNgSGGfRVm/BpCtyKopdf9Frj2m P4k3lTgcW6LsVuMtFc5HlbXlVFhCoU/FOilkfLl85TIX7TGQxckY4ix2D4faMApQ Qs4rjns93IaPN5j9tqKVckWfMuuUOJylcuXK/Oja5U4N2kxsqeY1AyEWSEGl3U0a 4J9uPu6w4flPeZvb4kM6q4h/yW9QFTaau5ZzWW1buU54IANbTJjXNvW+5Z9DSfAb e6x8FZGCm07pBDFRc1JNxhZVMoeTox/yIccJQDx8g9bGQ+TRs/pdEPZJcVHpLx8l u4kNzyHKG/z/G1Q02AtKwYvHHSnkWUzgmrmriUz899xPT9C3+yzEq0+8q5mFys7z eh1MzwGjA8HmNodPfl7RPlaJEPSxr0WDYm1nIMFW3rNdnwGkHo4leA2tVmJpC3dZ 3Yj8MsdAT6ssLIcgo5JlRytFpGO7qzlw1golcQ0b76fz8N6//z46gWaHm8YxJWWb MrSZBR8pM2jPgUMekYLJ8pg9hhwAYTjULBINpX4SqfL4GXceKA9HiWHhOfikI3nR ObUIuhV90scP16XeSG0qGb8cZK4QZuHrDa18T3OnVLoRZ1gB72i8jVK/eEaJYNK7 fzDMS5w1Z2PHe8+Qen3a =X9zY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9HHofjFDEGjo1r9w3jfi9BitmqR7hJA9x-- From nobody Mon Aug 22 14:14:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36600127071 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Ls9W9-bW7_Y for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59AE412B026 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (50.39.87.30) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:26:14 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: "'Dale R. Worley'" , References: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> (trac@tools.ietf.org) <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:13:53 -0700 Message-ID: <018b01d1fcba$18fd38e0$4af7aaa0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQKJKgXcevK89nrI8c57U5xxo3rMqp7nIADg Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [50.39.87.30] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:14:30 -0000 I have started looking at these issues and expect to have fixes for review in the next month or so. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: xml2rfc [mailto:xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:49 PM > To: xml2rfc@ietf.org > Subject: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 > > Is there any hope I can get someone to look at issue 318 fairly soon? > We have a draft in IESG review that trips this bug (bad HTML output) and I'd like > to have it fixed in time for its publication. > > I've managed to characterize the problem fairly closely; see the latest comment > on the issue. > > Thanks, > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Tue Aug 23 03:06:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECE912D8F8 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:06:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=greenbytes.de header.b=NcnCeo/a; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=greenbytes.de header.b=NcnCeo/a Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e1Fj30aE-aKE for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (mail.greenbytes.de [5.10.171.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA62112D8F5 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 03:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.greenbytes.de (Postfix, from userid 117) id C897315A36A9; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:06:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=greenbytes.de; s=mail; t=1471946782; bh=5c4o3+/+KqPXIcV/M++giK50U6nczL3gKSAdKXt5zNo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NcnCeo/ay2VGDW7b4fG+PwPAoa1YdhR0c2Eg/u9LRObYEujEGygTOiXHt1KmnEMiG l5V7VufP9AgS71X4mNrwQ4tqDWIRuYjCSPrCuPt5mECO2TWvMcAeDwwVvBrou42FT1 3xKUuYoBlMVteZ7RO069+1PGKa7XH+g9TNrOqrlQ= Received: from [10.54.156.41] (unknown [88.128.80.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.greenbytes.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E39A15A36A7; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:06:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=greenbytes.de; s=mail; t=1471946782; bh=5c4o3+/+KqPXIcV/M++giK50U6nczL3gKSAdKXt5zNo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NcnCeo/ay2VGDW7b4fG+PwPAoa1YdhR0c2Eg/u9LRObYEujEGygTOiXHt1KmnEMiG l5V7VufP9AgS71X4mNrwQ4tqDWIRuYjCSPrCuPt5mECO2TWvMcAeDwwVvBrou42FT1 3xKUuYoBlMVteZ7RO069+1PGKa7XH+g9TNrOqrlQ= To: "Dale R. Worley" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <5853cc24-54e8-76e7-d41c-c0d0b332a67d@greenbytes.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:06:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8760qs34x4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:06:28 -0000 On 2016-08-22 22:49, Dale R. Worley wrote: > Is there any hope I can get someone to look at issue 318 fairly soon? > We have a draft in IESG review that trips this bug (bad HTML output) and > I'd like to have it fixed in time for its publication. > > I've managed to characterize the problem fairly closely; see the latest > comment on the issue. You can always choose a different tool to produce the HTML (https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html). 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Worley) To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <57BB6AAF.5040002@levkowetz.com> (henrik@levkowetz.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:00:15 -0400 Message-ID: <87fupv1nn4.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCaYTCmVDB41/NSoD9oP3Z42TqDcExJwoEoRpGmSr9yt57oJNgBxEWAVd/Lj+tyAyYqG7G/nb4oVVlcmRPzE6NqGHlRUoOlaoRMi1IefgudeX791a/oh f2JKtJnZTT7ehPxhPK1WU7y8qpwr/fcOuK39Y6/Ak5/eV/7rMjKH8KTA8KoTpFTU2aJkM2krFr6f30fjoW/DWZ0GZsA7kdXNS+0= Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] XML2RFC issue #318 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:00:21 -0000 Henrik Levkowetz writes: > I should be able to work on this end of next week. There are a few other > important fixes needed for xml2rfc, too. So say I'd say there's hope for > a fix in about 2 weeks. Ah, that would be great! Dale From nobody Tue Aug 23 11:53:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9754912D784 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I4XfNwi-Vk3i for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E48D612D749 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57407 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bcGom-0000xX-GD; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:53:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:53:00 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/325 Message-ID: <066.967f0b764179e5948e93511ae749248c@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 325 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: [xml2rfc] #325 (Version 2 cli): Broken links X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:53:02 -0000 #325: Broken links In page https://tools.ietf.org/ the link "http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/trunk/cli.tgz" to http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/trunk/cli.tgz is broken. In page http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ the link "It may be downloaded here." to http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc is broken. -- --------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: worley@ariadne.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Keywords: | --------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Tue Aug 23 12:24:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0768712D800 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:24:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iD7fqv4ohAz7 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #325 (Version 2 cli): Broken links X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 19:24:16 -0000 #325: Broken links Changes (by henrik@levkowetz.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed to point at https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/trunk/cli.tgz, which works. -- ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: worley@ariadne.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: fixed | Keywords: ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Wed Aug 24 03:41:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C712DC2A for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YtBzWGWT68aM for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D653212D900 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45405 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bcVcA-0004Y9-V7; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:40:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:40:58 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/318#comment:2 Message-ID: <081.ed193a6fba8a43122d58562b88fce922@tools.ietf.org> References: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 318 In-Reply-To: <066.a4054d4375a79d2a497493d755fbf11a@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, worley@ariadne.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #318 (Version 2 cli): Bug in the online XML2RFC HTML output X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:41:03 -0000 #318: Bug in the online XML2RFC HTML output Comment (by worley@ariadne.com): It looks like this is the fix: {{{ diff -u xml2rfc/writers/html.py.orig xml2rfc/writers/html.py --- xml2rfc/writers/html.py.orig 2015-05-18 14:13:43.000000000 -0400 +++ xml2rfc/writers/html.py 2016-08-24 06:31:04.235958917 -0400 @@ -412,8 +412,12 @@ br.tail = child.tail elif child.tag == 'list': self.write_list(child, parent, level=level) + # Having appended child(ren) to the parent, we must append a new + # E.P() child in which to place any further text in the . + current = E.P() + parent.append(current) if child.tail: - parent.append(E.P(child.tail)) + current.text = child.tail elif child.tag == 'figure': # Callback to base writer method self.write_figure(child) }}} This could create empty E.P() elements where there weren't any before. (I.e., after a in a , which is not followed by further running text.) I haven't checked into the consequences of this, though I can guess at three solutions: 1) It's the user's problem. The user created a within a , and can expect formatting anomalies. The previous code could create an empty E.P() before the if there is no running text in the before the . OTOH, that case is uncommon, whereas the case of no running text after in is more common. 2) If an empty E.P() generates "

", assume that the browser will treat it as a no-op. 3) Have the serialization process ("self.buf.append(self._flush_temp_div())") explicitly ignore empty E.P() elements. It may already do this; I haven't checked. -- ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: worley@ariadne.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.5.x Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Aug 25 05:57:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4372E12D14A for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:57:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lgeb3_ouSgvQ for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10B8F12B01B for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34770 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bcuDi-0004Rt-AM; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 05:57:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, lars@netapp.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:57:22 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326 Message-ID: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, lars@netapp.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:57:25 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Because RFCs now have DOI numbers, the reference sections in RFCs are now supposed to include DOIs for all references for which they have been assigned (e.g., citations of academic papers). This currently places quite an extra load on the RFC Editor, which has to manually track those DOIs down and insert them into the XML source. This is esp. time consuming for IRTF documents, which tend to cite many academic papers. The good news is that the metadata for publications with DOIs is readily available in a number of formats; see http://crosscite.org/cn/ For example: {{{ # curl http://api.crossref.org/works/10.1145/1355734.1355746/transform/application/vnd.crossref.unixref+xml ACM SIGCOMM Computer Communication Review SIGCOMM Comput. Commun. Rev. 01464833 03 31 2008 38 2 10.1145/1355734 20080401112845 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1355734 OpenFlow enabling innovation in campus networks Nick McKeown Tom Anderson Hari Balakrishnan Guru Parulkar Larry Peterson Jennifer Rexford Scott Shenker Jonathan Turner 03 31 2008 69 10.1145/1355734.1355746 20080401112845 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1355734.1355746 ⏎ }}} So it is hopefully relatively easy to extend xml2rfc to transform that XML into something it can use to automatically populate citation entries with DOIs. -- -----------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Keywords: | -----------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Aug 25 09:22:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364ED12D841 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwHDYU0A1Qxh for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11D9912D1D0 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:22:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u7PGM4tL002112; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:22:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from roku (62-20-117-228.customer.telia.com [62.20.117.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3sKqFS19khz1sW3; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:22:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:22:02 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann To: xml2rfc issue tracker Message-ID: <9526a79e-ca43-4db0-8bbb-9df409d6f6e0@roku> In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="57bf1b2b_6b8b4567_14a8" Archived-At: Cc: "\"=?utf-8?Q?xml2rfc=40ietf.org?=\"" , "\"=?utf-8?Q?lars=40netapp.com?=\"" Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:22:11 -0000 --57bf1b2b_6b8b4567_14a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi xml2rfc, As I said previously, I do not believe the quality of the doi database is sufficient to do this in a fully automatic way. It is probably preferable to have an extraction tool and then a chance to manually fix up the nonsense coming out of the database. See the doilit tool coming with kramdown-rfc for a working example of such a tool. --57bf1b2b_6b8b4567_14a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hi xml2rfc,

As I said previously, I do not believe the = quality of the doi database is sufficient to do this in a fully automatic= way. It is probably preferable to have an extraction tool and then a cha= nce to manually fix up the nonsense coming out of the database. See the d= oilit tool coming with kramdown-rfc for a working example of such a tool.=

On 25 Aug 2016 14:57, xml2rfc issue tracker wrote:

=09

=23326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs&=2313;
&=23= 13;
Because R=46Cs now have DOI numbers, the reference sections in R= =46Cs are now&=2313;
supposed to include DOIs for all references for= which they have been&=2313;
assigned (e.g., citations of academic p= apers).&=2313;
&=2313;
This currently places quite an extra load= on the R=46C Editor, which has to&=2313;
manually track those DOIs = down and insert them into the XML source. This&=2313;
is esp. time c= onsuming for IRT=46 documents, which tend to cite many&=2313;
academ= ic papers.&=2313;
&=2313;
The good news is that the metadata for= publications with DOIs is readily&=2313;
available in a number of f= ormats; see http://crosscite.org/cn/&=2313;
&=2313;
=46or exampl= e:&=2313;
=7B=7B=7B&=2313;
=23 curl&=2313;
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&=2313;
<=3Fxml version=3D=221.0=22 encod= ing=3D=22UT=46-8=22=3F>&=2313;
<doi=5Frecords>&=2313;
= <doi=5Frecord owner=3D=2210.1145=22 timestamp=3D=222011-08-23 04:35:= 26=22>&=2313;
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<journal&= gt;&=2313;
<journal=5Fmetadata language=3D=22en=22>&=23= 13;
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<abbrev= =5Ftitle>SIGCOMM Comput. Commun. Rev.</abbrev=5Ftitle>&=2313; <issn media=5Ftype=3D=22print=22>01464833</issn>= &=2313;
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<= journal=5Fissue>&=2313;
<publication=5Fdate media=5F= type=3D=22print=22>&=2313;
<month>03</month&= gt;&=2313;
<day>31</day>&=2313;
= <year>2008</year>&=2313;
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<journal=5Fvolume>&=2313;
= <volume>38</volume>&=2313;
</jour= nal=5Fvolume>&=2313;
<issue>2</issue>&=2313= ;
<doi=5Fdata>&=2313;
<doi>10= .1145/1355734</doi>&=2313;
<timestamp>200804= 01112845</timestamp>&=2313;
<resource>http://portal.acm.= org/citation.cfm=3Fdoid=3D1355734</resource>&=2313;
= </doi=5Fdata>&=2313;
</journal=5Fissue>&=2313; <journal=5Farticle publication=5Ftype=3D=22full=5Ftext=22&= gt;&=2313;
<titles>&=2313;
<titl= e>Open=46low</title>&=2313;
<subtitle>ena= bling innovation in campus networks</subtitle>&=2313;
= </titles>&=2313;
<contributors>&=2313;
= <person=5Fname sequence=3D=22first=22 contributor=5Frole=3D= =22author=22>&=2313;
<given=5Fname>Nick</g= iven=5Fname>&=2313;
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= <person=5Fname sequence=3D=22additional=22 contributor=5Frole=3D= =22author=22>&=2313;
<given=5Fname>Tom</gi= ven=5Fname>&=2313;
<surname>Anderson</surn= ame>&=2313;
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= <person=5Fname sequence=3D=22additional=22 contributor=5Frole=3D= =22author=22>&=2313;
<given=5Fname>Hari</g= iven=5Fname>&=2313;
<surname>Balakrishnan<= /surname>&=2313;
</person=5Fname>&=2313;
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<person=5Fname sequence=3D=22additional=22 contribut= or=5Frole=3D=22author=22>&=2313;
<given=5Fname&g= t;Jonathan</given=5Fname>&=2313;
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<public= ation=5Fdate media=5Ftype=3D=22print=22>&=2313;
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into something it can use to automatical= ly populate citation entries with&=2313;
DOIs.&=2313;
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Reporter: lars=40netapp.com =7C Owner: henri= k=40levkowetz.com&=2313;
Type: enhancement =7C Status:= new&=2313;
Priority: medium =7C Milestone:&=2313;
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--57bf1b2b_6b8b4567_14a8-- From nobody Fri Aug 26 01:19:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2A12D1C7 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uScw_Linvdnq for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51D8F12D185 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53119 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdCLv-00010C-2Y; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:19:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:19:02 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:1 Message-ID: <078.64de3a0cd2e3ed1e5997cfad95a38abf@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:19:06 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by julian.reschke@gmx.de): I agree that a tool would be nice to have, but I disagree that it should be part of xml2rfc. -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 06:35:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDF812D985 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:35:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VK9XAYC-JpsV for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60AF412D98E for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36951 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdH71-0005ZP-JJ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:23:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:23:59 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:2 Message-ID: <078.9e78a89459dac057522a9befa996bd12@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:35:27 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by tony@att.com): I think a better method is to create a bibxml tool to generate the references. Doing a dig on http://dx.doi.org/${doi} with the header "Accept: application/citeproc+json" appears to generate a nicely formatted JSON reference object. According to Carsten, the data may not be as regular as we want, but it's a good start. My thoughts are to have http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml-doi /reference-DOI.${doi}.xml do the dig and conversion (keeping a local cache so multiple requests don't overwhelm dx.doi.org). -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 08:13:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F9112D10E for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:12:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V1MX7_P7YluQ for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4104412D0AC for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39051 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdIoP-0002JC-GK; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:12:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:12:53 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:3 Message-ID: <078.9ac6260a51fc1ce4af2f9f70e36d568f@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:12:59 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by johnl@iecc.com): It's not totally trivial, because different registration agencies support different formats, but it shouldn't be hard to get a 95% result. It is my impression that most of the publishers we're likely to reference such as ACM, IEEE, and the Elsevier journals, all use Crossref. -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 13:30:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180AA12D829 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:30:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ohnh6auYCBA for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8757B12B069 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50637 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdNm3-0007pE-7y; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:30:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:30:47 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:4 Message-ID: <078.c477f3683ec68f1c22309dbe55aae329@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:30:54 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com): > it shouldn't be hard to get a 95% result Which isn't good enough for automation. Since a human check will always be needed, this definitely needs to be separated from xml2rfc itself. Linking it to bibxml seems by far the best approach, given the likely users are mainly in the IRTF space. -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 13:50:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2412D0A7 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hX0PEuS134oN for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13D6E12D836 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50898 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdO4u-0002st-6J; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:50:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:50:16 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:5 Message-ID: <078.ade0b41ca313b972bbb43193b77141a5@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:50:25 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by johnl@iecc.com): >> it shouldn't be hard to get a 95% result > Which isn't good enough for automation. I don't see why not. If xml2rfc can't resolve the DOI reference to a usable chunk of bibxml, it fails like any other broken reference. It seems unlikely that a reference that works once would stop working, so I don't see how this would be a problem in practice. -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 15:59:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37126126D74 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:59:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fgwm82iKeWi3 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91C5B12B05E for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53201 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdQ6C-0004GV-BC; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:59:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:59:44 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:6 Message-ID: <078.b6a62eaf79effce658459d927b45dac3@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:59:53 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com): >If xml2rfc can't resolve the DOI reference to a usable chunk of bibxml, it fails like any other broken reference. Sure. But my concern is if it resolves to a syntactically correct but actually wrong DOI reference. -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 16:08:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9141912D13D for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id khi1LN5Ft6sA for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29C9912B05E for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53419 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdQEu-00063e-SR; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:08:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 23:08:44 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:7 Message-ID: <078.c0ae3263650aa3e404cf6d88d9971231@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 23:08:50 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by tony@att.com): I really doubt that 1 in 20 of the DOI citations returned by a lookup on dx.doi.org or api.crossref.org are returning information for the wrong document. I'd be surprised to find any incorrect documents returned from the tools. However, I wouldn't be surprised to find information missing from some of the entries. And I /think/ that's the 95% that John was referring to. John, would you care to elaborate more on your 95% estimate? -- ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: lars@netapp.com | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Aug 26 18:47:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C964912D1C2 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:47:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZnJnbWkgRlzS for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C3E912D130 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55649 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdSi3-0001Rr-Fr; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:46:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 01:46:59 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/326#comment:8 Message-ID: <078.6f8b151643164923c90aff053a944112@tools.ietf.org> References: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 326 In-Reply-To: <063.683be61a19e1ddb0e21eec3bcf749195@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, tony@att.com, johnl@iecc.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #326 (Version 2 cli): Add bibliography entries based on DOIs X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 01:47:09 -0000 #326: Add bibliography entries based on DOIs Comment (by johnl@iecc.com): The 95% is for DOIs issued by Crossref or by other DOI agencies who provide bibliographic info in the same formats that Crossref does so the same code can parse it. Since publishers upload the DOI and the bibliographic info at the same time, it's hard to think of a plausible way that they would be wrong very often. The other 5%, if that much, would be where the info is there but the publisher doesn't return it in a form we can parse, and in that case the code should know that it's failed. The page at crosscite lists a bunch of formats supported by Crossref, DataCite (used mostly for research datasets), and mEDRA (used by some European publishers), and most of those formats are supported by all three. 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X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:40:23 -0000 On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get redirected to htt= ps://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took for ever to reso= lve. But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get flipped to htt= ps. I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow. Maybe I shou= ld just wait until tomorrow. > xml2rfc.ietf.org Server: fritz.box Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 Non-authoritative answer: xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name =3D xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info ietf.org nameserver =3D ns0.amsl.com ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info ns0.amsl.com internet address =3D 4.31.198.40 ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2001:1900:3001:11::28 ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.79 ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.1 ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:6::1 ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.7.1 ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:7::1 ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.8.1 ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:8::1 ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.9.1 ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:9::1 Brian >=20 > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get redirected to h= ttps://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop to xml2rfc.iet= f.org first via another CNAME. >=20 > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://xml.resource.or= g I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cert only being v= alid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through anyway gives = me =E2=80=9Cpage not found=E2=80=9D messages. >=20 > I haven=E2=80=99t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to come up in a way= that sticks with a form there. >=20 > Sorry, but I can=E2=80=99t reproduce your issue. >=20 > Tony >=20 > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >=20 > FYI. 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([2406:e007:7e0b:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 184sm31813520pfg.20.2016.08.26.19.56.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Aug 2016 19:56:52 -0700 (PDT) To: "HANSEN, TONY L" , xml2rfc References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:57:02 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:56:55 -0000 On 27/08/2016 14:45, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > There is also the http->https flipping that=E2=80=99s getting into the = act and might be wrecking havoc. It is. When I manually go to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, firstly I get a c= ertificate error and if I accept that, I get to something that looks mighty like the= tools.ietf.org main page. I wonder if IPv6 is also part of the story. Brian > Tony >=20 > On 8/26/16, 10:40 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" = wrote: >=20 > On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get redirected = to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. > =20 > Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took for ever t= o resolve. > But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get flipped = to https. > I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow. Maybe = I should just > wait until tomorrow. > =20 > > xml2rfc.ietf.org > Server: fritz.box > Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 > =20 > Non-authoritative answer: > xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? > xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name =3D xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org > =20 > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns0.amsl.com > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info > ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info > ns0.amsl.com internet address =3D 4.31.198.40 > ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2001:1900:3001:11::28 > ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.79 > ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.1 > ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:6::= 1 > ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.7.1 > ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:7::= 1 > ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.8.1 > ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:8::= 1 > ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.9.1 > ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:9::= 1 > =20 > Brian > =20 > >=20 > > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get redirecte= d to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop to xml2r= fc.ietf.org first via another CNAME. > >=20 > > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://xml.resou= rce.org I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cert only b= eing valid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through anyway = gives me =E2=80=9Cpage not found=E2=80=9D messages. > >=20 > > I haven=E2=80=99t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to come up in= a way that sticks with a form there. > >=20 > > Sorry, but I can=E2=80=99t reproduce your issue. > >=20 > > Tony > >=20 > > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" wrote: > >=20 > > FYI. I have sent a ticket to ietf-action. > > =20 > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? > > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:47:53 +1200 > > From: Brian E Carpenter > > Organization: University of Auckland > > To: IETF action > > =20 > > Today, http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ (redirected from http://xml.r= esource.org/) consistently says: No input file > > =20 > > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ works normally > > =20 > > Regards > > Brian Carpenter > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > _______________________________________________ > > xml2rfc mailing list > > xml2rfc@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > > =20 > >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 From nobody Sat Aug 27 13:13:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188C12B030 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:13:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tp-UxdeHI56z for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0049512B00A for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:49700 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bdjz1-0004uO-IP; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:13:40 -0700 Message-ID: <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:13:32 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian E Carpenter , "HANSEN, TONY L" , xml2rfc References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fH7QcJ9oN3V5Rv113amvhaPceVC9Dk2hn" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, tony@att.com, brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:13:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --fH7QcJ9oN3V5Rv113amvhaPceVC9Dk2hn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-08-27 04:57, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 27/08/2016 14:45, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >> There is also the http->https flipping that=E2=80=99s getting into the= act and might be wrecking havoc. >=20 > It is. When I manually go to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, firstly I get a= certificate > error and if I accept that, I get to something that looks mighty like t= he tools.ietf.org > main page. I've just fixed the missing redirect from https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/. The cert is of course still broken, but= the redirect is there now. I'll talk with Glen about an alternative approach which may work better (but that depends on him having wildcard certs for ietf.org). Best regards, Henrik >=20 > I wonder if IPv6 is also part of the story. >=20 > Brian >=20 >> Tony >>=20 >> On 8/26/16, 10:40 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >>=20 >> On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >> > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get redirected= to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. >> =20 >> Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took for ever = to resolve. >> But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get flipped= to https. >> I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow. Maybe= I should just >> wait until tomorrow. >> =20 >> > xml2rfc.ietf.org >> Server: fritz.box >> Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 >> =20 >> Non-authoritative answer: >> xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? >> xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name =3D xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org >> =20 >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns0.amsl.com >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info >> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info >> ns0.amsl.com internet address =3D 4.31.198.40 >> ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2001:1900:3001:11::28 >> ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.79 >> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.1 >> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:6:= :1 >> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.7.1 >> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:7:= :1 >> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.8.1 >> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:8:= :1 >> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.9.1 >> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:9:= :1 >> =20 >> Brian >> =20 >> >=20 >> > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get redirect= ed to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop to xml2= rfc.ietf.org first via another CNAME. >> >=20 >> > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://xml.reso= urce.org I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cert only = being valid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through anyway= gives me =E2=80=9Cpage not found=E2=80=9D messages. >> >=20 >> > I haven=E2=80=99t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to come up i= n a way that sticks with a form there. >> >=20 >> > Sorry, but I can=E2=80=99t reproduce your issue. >> >=20 >> > Tony >> >=20 >> > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >> >=20 >> > FYI. I have sent a ticket to ietf-action. >> > =20 >> > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> > Subject: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? >> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:47:53 +1200 >> > From: Brian E Carpenter >> > Organization: University of Auckland >> > To: IETF action >> > =20 >> > Today, http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ (redirected from http://xml.= resource.org/) consistently says: No input file >> > =20 >> > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ works normally >> > =20 >> > Regards >> > Brian Carpenter >> > =20 >> > =20 >> > =20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > xml2rfc mailing list >> > xml2rfc@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >> > =20 >> >=20 >> =20 >> =20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 --fH7QcJ9oN3V5Rv113amvhaPceVC9Dk2hn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXwfRsAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaJPAP/2bvgkKDzVkxRsJTdFReVdkN Yu/jSyZaoX2eIokt+LFfJrzsx028bmhMcevHBXZD4PEJ70sSEiLOtxUH3G6F53ni Ettr/qIWWcLi633uHfG3KF9p7o/r4tE540/46kJMiLrPWO4Yg7+TVSSqajV5Q/YR Log04jwlyqGvvRxlHL02b5GgGZSq0M3NwB2NIZHYhb6vwYOPUOmej4n2oAwAHLAx qan2BPraHTrbM1BEApOumnWYeeN8vgWfcH+f0SbJutMnqu1jw0gZtuYmay7NhYTd mkxbB+nAVzhzy6Yj6VIv1DrbfN0ohIWUmCiDfcC5gYzNpDphAy/LmLsViE7K5qVl DoXzQ9OFzWHQFCHdGsIFue/IZi0ch4fpe8vBaBPynEwR9G+eokFqyV0ku79hSXZv Rl8a3i1hkM8Z+TrH7abNxA4ZYX11Gghl82Uykqoj9Vvs5SLag3qUEIAGp/asruWt wmn45LLhz6YX7VMJEzqGYbd4TxKtDLIDTK7SRK5YobpSNYs1FarV864/IjTd6lKZ GBeldfBm8O4JLZH3cAtdw/Zq3lk013Dd21TWn8SS3V2c6G7mi9nTHNxGbCFfwG1p XMJpmd17r/lpzs7dn5MYn/XnmwOMrTX52t8Ot+RALOU+ax5ycz4SFaABSr8zRNiI R/dlDgrCKAjPziPiLR74 =xlgq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fH7QcJ9oN3V5Rv113amvhaPceVC9Dk2hn-- From nobody Sat Aug 27 16:42:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C123C12D1BC for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c1KgG_rVhYd2 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x229.google.com (mail-pf0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF44712D0FB for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id h186so39693724pfg.3 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:organization:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ujh73lhJ4h6a7GOWAqutnZVxs1DdgQfTKNtagSrKUOk=; b=ruTRid+vLv0uFHNR7y+v2f780lsIkiBrVXkyFB33kBzCGcSq7deIE+K3KDmrQHJh1O jQgn5UGZSgeOV41ZVifw6nQGAgxryh8k8dJMeoUWqndEqJN7ngNmJ4FsFF22XnpZyTod zsKgAGHtxnD7GMVC4s8X7LM4bCTkVR6qdaYXathSajjTfs9aBEKe4Ki08VGXRmZPjJlT AJPRjbCG5KEFPS0XwD53FurC5q3svCq+NCxXmwd3h8Q/UMTkOoXSQIeMzg4fv4xcgxsz jwCEgNwX+R09Qx4fT/dZmtXtSbiImBRtuw/ytHCXKKcAii0IhqHV9wQ2+hduL+PRDLgR m9Eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ujh73lhJ4h6a7GOWAqutnZVxs1DdgQfTKNtagSrKUOk=; b=XkhraaY/wV0d2+j838ISFvfEAWrff4QEC8xsZDxUnkrqm+piYnP8emmz6BTINj7t3M EpbqncLZcgElUW8zAd0RWDQ+F2V0P+GCdUmChkV8f8sMrlB8UdTIhckDgzwg3DG70HQc wr/PBpTB6x2flhpczl+rZb745kaKe3YpwY1EH2X3QjxZqKidtfWOeMXxhx9xTs19xkAm XLRUxsTTdej3ZlkbOZUEiXvxGQpMigeHZEDjr6+F5Uzy8dZjVT9qwoFzGVyYnNOK+lys tk4Ozbr8sUHEcH/AY9PDg4NcNYeGt9t4L6inplRBhTiiDg5fGNiQhQSzp40s5xfYrz3Q hiEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPow0ynPcYuPf+9MqM3Txz6ICbyrMkiRp+/PiB/iml2//ELjC0nfyspE40hphLHNw== X-Received: by 10.98.69.73 with SMTP id s70mr18773341pfa.115.1472341353176; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2406:e007:794f:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781? ([2406:e007:794f:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c125sm38507561pfc.40.2016.08.27.16.42.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:42:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Henrik Levkowetz , "HANSEN, TONY L" , xml2rfc References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <4c03473b-3a85-b8e9-6cbc-ed30a44719d6@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:42:28 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 23:42:36 -0000 Right, thanks, and that works. What is still broken (and this is very recent) is that when I go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, browse to an xml file, and click submit, I get a "No input file" from https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2r= fc.cgi So, what seems to be happening is that the flip to https happens too late= =2E It should happen *before* I am able to browse to a file. I have an open ticket [www.ietf.org/rt #139048] for this. Regards Brian On 28/08/2016 08:13, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >=20 > On 2016-08-27 04:57, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 27/08/2016 14:45, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>> There is also the http->https flipping that=E2=80=99s getting into th= e act and might be wrecking havoc. >> >> It is. When I manually go to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, firstly I get = a certificate >> error and if I accept that, I get to something that looks mighty like = the tools.ietf.org >> main page. >=20 > I've just fixed the missing redirect from https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ to > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/. The cert is of course still broken, b= ut > the redirect is there now. I'll talk with Glen about an alternative > approach which may work better (but that depends on him having wildcard= > certs for ietf.org). >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 >> >> I wonder if IPv6 is also part of the story. >> >> Brian >> >>> Tony >>> >>> On 8/26/16, 10:40 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >>> >>> On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>> > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get redirecte= d to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. >>> =20 >>> Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took for ever= to resolve. >>> But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get flippe= d to https. >>> I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow. Mayb= e I should just >>> wait until tomorrow. >>> =20 >>> > xml2rfc.ietf.org >>> Server: fritz.box >>> Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 >>> =20 >>> Non-authoritative answer: >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name =3D xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org= >>> =20 >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns0.amsl.com >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info >>> ns0.amsl.com internet address =3D 4.31.198.40 >>> ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2001:1900:3001:11::28 >>> ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.79 >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.6.1 >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:6= ::1 >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.7.1 >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:7= ::1 >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.8.1 >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:8= ::1 >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.9.1 >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:8840:9= ::1 >>> =20 >>> Brian >>> =20 >>> >=20 >>> > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get redirec= ted to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop to xml= 2rfc.ietf.org first via another CNAME. >>> >=20 >>> > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://xml.res= ource.org I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cert only= being valid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through anywa= y gives me =E2=80=9Cpage not found=E2=80=9D messages. >>> >=20 >>> > I haven=E2=80=99t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to come up = in a way that sticks with a form there. >>> >=20 >>> > Sorry, but I can=E2=80=99t reproduce your issue. >>> >=20 >>> > Tony >>> >=20 >>> > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <= xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:= >>> >=20 >>> > FYI. I have sent a ticket to ietf-action. >>> > =20 >>> > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> > Subject: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? >>> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:47:53 +1200 >>> > From: Brian E Carpenter >>> > Organization: University of Auckland >>> > To: IETF action >>> > =20 >>> > Today, http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ (redirected from http://xml= =2Eresource.org/) consistently says: No input file >>> > =20 >>> > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ works normally >>> > =20 >>> > Regards >>> > Brian Carpenter >>> > =20 >>> > =20 >>> > =20 >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > xml2rfc mailing list >>> > xml2rfc@ietf.org >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >>> > =20 >>> >=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xml2rfc mailing list >> xml2rfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >> >=20 From nobody Sat Aug 27 17:37:07 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEF912D198 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FjjBmr9agbz0 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3E3912D0CD for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049295.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049295.ppops.net-00191d01. 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([2406:e007:794f:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fj19sm39517767pab.37.2016.08.27.22.03.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:03:24 -0700 (PDT) To: "HANSEN, TONY L" , xml2rfc References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> <4c03473b-3a85-b8e9-6cbc-ed30a44719d6@gmail.com> <83DE218B-2C26-4F1D-9EA3-16C9F3E46E90@att.com> From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <65528232-24a6-b682-40f1-d7662a0a2601@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:03:21 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83DE218B-2C26-4F1D-9EA3-16C9F3E46E90@att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 05:03:28 -0000 On 28/08/2016 12:36, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > It=E2=80=99s weird: when I go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, my browsers = immediately redirect to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ and all is good f= rom then on. I=E2=80=99ve tried several different browsers and they all d= o it properly. I tried Safari, FF and Chrome on a Mac, and FF and IE on a= PC. All worked. >=20 > I=E2=80=99m flummoxed as to why your experience is different. Ditto. The redirect only seems to happen when I hit submit, i.e. trigger = a POST and presumably a CGI script. I just disabled IPv6: same problem I just had TunnelBear transport me to the UK: same problem. I just had TunnelBear transport me to the USA: same problem. I just cleared my browser cache. Problem solved - http://xml.resource.org/ now redirects to https://xml2rf= c.tools.ietf.org/ instead of http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/. And http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ also re= directs. So, something changed that invalidated whatever my browser had cached. Sorry for the distraction. I will update the ietf-action ticket. Brian >=20 > - Tony >=20 > On 8/27/16, 7:42 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" = wrote: >=20 > Right, thanks, and that works. > =20 > What is still broken (and this is very recent) is that when I go to= > http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, browse to an xml file, and click submit, > I get a "No input file" from https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin= /xml2rfc.cgi > =20 > So, what seems to be happening is that the flip to https happens to= o late. > It should happen *before* I am able to browse to a file. > =20 > I have an open ticket [www.ietf.org/rt #139048] for this. > =20 > Regards > Brian > =20 > On 28/08/2016 08:13, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >=20 > > On 2016-08-27 04:57, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> On 27/08/2016 14:45, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > >>> There is also the http->https flipping that=E2=80=99s getting i= nto the act and might be wrecking havoc. > >> > >> It is. When I manually go to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, firstly = I get a certificate > >> error and if I accept that, I get to something that looks mighty= like the tools.ietf.org > >> main page. > >=20 > > I've just fixed the missing redirect from https://xml2rfc.ietf.or= g/ to > > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/. The cert is of course still bro= ken, but > > the redirect is there now. I'll talk with Glen about an alternat= ive > > approach which may work better (but that depends on him having wi= ldcard > > certs for ietf.org). > >=20 > >=20 > > Best regards, > >=20 > > Henrik > >=20 > >> > >> I wonder if IPv6 is also part of the story. > >> > >> Brian > >> > >>> Tony > >>> > >>> On 8/26/16, 10:40 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" wrote: > >>> > >>> On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > >>> > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get red= irected to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. > >>> =20 > >>> Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took fo= r ever to resolve. > >>> But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get = flipped to https. > >>> I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow= =2E Maybe I should just > >>> wait until tomorrow. > >>> =20 > >>> > xml2rfc.ietf.org > >>> Server: fritz.box > >>> Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 > >>> =20 > >>> Non-authoritative answer: > >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? > >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name =3D xml2rfc.tools.ie= tf.org > >>> =20 > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns0.amsl.com > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info > >>> ietf.org nameserver =3D ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info > >>> ns0.amsl.com internet address =3D 4.31.198.40 > >>> ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2001:1900:3001:11::28= > >>> ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.= 6.79 > >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.= 6.1 > >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:= 8840:6::1 > >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.= 7.1 > >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:= 8840:7::1 > >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.= 8.1 > >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:= 8840:8::1 > >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address =3D 65.22.= 9.1 > >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address =3D 2a01:= 8840:9::1 > >>> =20 > >>> Brian > >>> =20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get r= edirected to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop = to xml2rfc.ietf.org first via another CNAME. > >>> >=20 > >>> > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://x= ml.resource.org I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cer= t only being valid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through= anyway gives me =E2=80=9Cpage not found=E2=80=9D messages. > >>> >=20 > >>> > I haven=E2=80=99t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to co= me up in a way that sticks with a form there. > >>> >=20 > >>> > Sorry, but I can=E2=80=99t reproduce your issue. > >>> >=20 > >>> > Tony > >>> >=20 > >>> > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpen= ter" = wrote: > >>> >=20 > >>> > FYI. I have sent a ticket to ietf-action. > >>> > =20 > >>> > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >>> > Subject: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? > >>> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:47:53 +1200 > >>> > From: Brian E Carpenter = > >>> > Organization: University of Auckland > >>> > To: IETF action > >>> > =20 > >>> > Today, http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ (redirected from http= ://xml.resource.org/) consistently says: No input file > >>> > =20 > >>> > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ works normally > >>> > =20 > >>> > Regards > >>> > Brian Carpenter > >>> > =20 > >>> > =20 > >>> > =20 > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > xml2rfc mailing list > >>> > xml2rfc@ietf.org > >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > >>> > =20 > >>> >=20 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> xml2rfc mailing list > >> xml2rfc@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > >> > >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 From nobody Sun Aug 28 04:30:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A01212D14D for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:30:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5z1a-3fNTb3T for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C33C12D50C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter42-d.gandi.net (mfilter42-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.172]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3655172094; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:30:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter42-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.196]) by mfilter42-d.gandi.net (mfilter42-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TdrfDvXzlafs; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:30:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 109.47.0.73 Received: from nar-4.local (ip-109-47-0-73.web.vodafone.de [109.47.0.73]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0B8E1720A4; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:30:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57C2CB84.1020001@tzi.org> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:31:16 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: xml2rfc Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:30:08 -0000 FWIW, https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/issues/27 It seems a bug in Ruby's open-uri library gets triggered by some of the recent changes. Fortunately, there is a reasonably easy workaround while this is being fixed. (Fetching a resource via HTTP used to be simple, foolproof, robust...) Grüße, Carsten Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > On 2016-08-27 04:57, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 27/08/2016 14:45, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>> There is also the http->https flipping that’s getting into the act and might be wrecking havoc. >> It is. When I manually go to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/, firstly I get a certificate >> error and if I accept that, I get to something that looks mighty like the tools.ietf.org >> main page. > > I've just fixed the missing redirect from https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ to > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/. The cert is of course still broken, but > the redirect is there now. I'll talk with Glen about an alternative > approach which may work better (but that depends on him having wildcard > certs for ietf.org). > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > >> I wonder if IPv6 is also part of the story. >> >> Brian >> >>> Tony >>> >>> On 8/26/16, 10:40 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >>> >>> On 27/08/2016 14:23, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>> > Whenever I try to go to http://xml2rfc.ietf.org I get redirected to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org via a CNAME. >>> >>> Interesting. My resolver sees the CNAME too, but it took for ever to resolve. >>> But the problem is reproducible (today). Also, I don't get flipped to https. >>> I'm wondering if Cloudflare is getting into the act somehow. Maybe I should just >>> wait until tomorrow. >>> >>> > xml2rfc.ietf.org >>> Server: fritz.box >>> Address: fd00::be05:43ff:fe8e:ce39 >>> >>> Non-authoritative answer: >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org ??? unknown type 46 ??? >>> xml2rfc.ietf.org canonical name = xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org >>> >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns0.amsl.com >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info >>> ietf.org nameserver = ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info >>> ns0.amsl.com internet address = 4.31.198.40 >>> ns0.amsl.com AAAA IPv6 address = 2001:1900:3001:11::28 >>> ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info internet address = 65.22.6.79 >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info internet address = 65.22.6.1 >>> ns1.hkg1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address = 2a01:8840:6::1 >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info internet address = 65.22.7.1 >>> ns1.mia1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address = 2a01:8840:7::1 >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info internet address = 65.22.8.1 >>> ns1.sea1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address = 2a01:8840:8::1 >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info internet address = 65.22.9.1 >>> ns1.yyz1.afilias-nst.info AAAA IPv6 address = 2a01:8840:9::1 >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> > >>> > If I go to http://xml.resource.org my browsers also get redirected to https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, after going through the hop to xml2rfc.ietf.org first via another CNAME. >>> > >>> > If I go directly to https://xml2rfc.ietf.org or https://xml.resource.org I get a bad certificate message complaining about the cert only being valid for *.tools.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org. Going through anyway gives me “page not found” messages. >>> > >>> > I haven’t been able to get xml2rfc.ietf.org to come up in a way that sticks with a form there. >>> > >>> > Sorry, but I can’t reproduce your issue. >>> > >>> > Tony >>> > >>> > On 8/26/16, 9:49 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" wrote: >>> > >>> > FYI. I have sent a ticket to ietf-action. >>> > >>> > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> > Subject: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? >>> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:47:53 +1200 >>> > From: Brian E Carpenter >>> > Organization: University of Auckland >>> > To: IETF action >>> > >>> > Today, http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ (redirected from http://xml.resource.org/) consistently says: No input file >>> > >>> > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ works normally >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > Brian Carpenter >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > xml2rfc mailing list >>> > xml2rfc@ietf.org >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> xml2rfc mailing list >> xml2rfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >> > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Sun Aug 28 04:42:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658F712D14F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KpqaXx6TW5vG for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3AE312D0A5 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 04:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter25-d.gandi.net (mfilter25-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.153]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AA7C5A46; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:42:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter25-d.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.194]) by mfilter25-d.gandi.net (mfilter25-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wC-1hyC2zzDB; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:42:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 109.47.0.73 Received: from nar-4.local (ip-109-47-0-73.web.vodafone.de [109.47.0.73]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F267EC5A54; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:42:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57C2CE68.3060203@tzi.org> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:43:36 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc References: <2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> <57C2CB84.1020001@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <57C2CB84.1020001@tzi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? 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X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:58:42 -0000 --57c37aa8_643c9869_46c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Tony, The workaround currently uses xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org and so avoids the ce= rt issue. =20 Would it be appropriate to rely on this for now and switch to the stable = URI once the cert is fixed=3F Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --57c37aa8_643c9869_46c Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Tony,

The workaround currently uses xml2rfc.tools.ie= tf.org and so avoids the cert issue.

Would it be appropriate = to rely on this for now and switch to the stable URI once the cert is fix= ed=3F

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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<2edb0b01-905f-4c05-a4d7-9ca1059f0473@gmail.com> <8c1f079b-e8ed-615c-7e5a-39de0eb98f94@gmail.com> <6e72ab70-745d-0e6d-778c-26899192d8cd@gmail.com> <2E1C92DA-944C-4462-8C92-CC1FE70B8015@att.com> <16286443-0809-850b-69b7-3cf2857416fc@gmail.com> <57C1F46C.2090501@levkowetz.com> <57C2CB84.1020001@tzi.org> <57C2CE68.3060203@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <57C2CE68.3060203@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gl5o3XKO3CqHgv65K4rRCSqXswtUexPf9" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com, tony@att.com, cabo@tzi.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fwd: http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/ broken? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:59:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gl5o3XKO3CqHgv65K4rRCSqXswtUexPf9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had Glen set up a server with proper certificates for xml2rfc.ietf.o= rg, which redirects to xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org. The cert issue should now be fixed, and when we're ready to move the online xml2rfc service off of too= ls, we can put it in place on the server which currently does the redirect. 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X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:33:26 -0000 Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > The cert issue should now be > fixed, Thanks. I can confirm that https://xml2rfc.ietf.org now works with kramdown-rfc (which will however continue to default on https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org for now to avoid an additional redirect). Grüße, Carsten