From nobody Thu Jun 1 00:51:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D73512E053 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 00:51:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HPQvgnInZ9cw for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 00:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62B6212E051 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 00:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:55462 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dGKtC-0005ii-4P; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 00:51:26 -0700 To: Nico Williams , Julian Reschke References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <20170531161931.GB2903@localhost> Cc: ietf@augustcellars.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <592FC776.9050003@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 09:51:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170531161931.GB2903@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MjXXdWTOD0CkIbgVf9OQ4NP5Of4NNLdAA" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, ietf@augustcellars.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, nico@cryptonector.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 07:51:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --MjXXdWTOD0CkIbgVf9OQ4NP5Of4NNLdAA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cOr6v03TdPIg0J20k8wDCce6V4MTkhCWR"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Nico Williams , Julian Reschke Cc: ietf@augustcellars.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <592FC776.9050003@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <20170531161931.GB2903@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20170531161931.GB2903@localhost> --cOr6v03TdPIg0J20k8wDCce6V4MTkhCWR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nico, On 2017-05-31 18:19, Nico Williams wrote: > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:31:03PM +0200, Julian Reschke wrote: >> We had epic discussions about this topic, [...] >=20 > We'll all agree to that! >=20 >> [...], and IMHO the general feeling= was >> that paginated output really isn't that important. Even the attribute = you're >> referring to didn't get a real consensus. >=20 > It's easy to say we're divided on this so there's no consensus, but I > think that's just lame -- this isn't an Internet protocol we're > discussing, but a document format and tools. The real question is > whether *implementors* are going to implement this, and so far the > answer is "no", leaving users who want this to submit a PR as they > (naturally) cannot force implementors to do it -- that seems fair > enough. Umm ?? I started the discussion about having page break controls in the v3 vocabulary because I'd just added a PI to break before the ToC in xml2rfc 2.6.0, which I released yesterday. Am I misunderstanding what you mean when you write 'implementors'? Henrik >> Why would we ever want to control whether the ToC starts on a new page= or >> not? (yes, that's a serious question). >=20 > When the abstract runs long and causes the ToC to be split weirdly > between two pages, it looks ugly. Especially to the reader who reads a= > printout. Whenever the ToC fits on one page, it is very, very nice to > have it be on one page when you print the doc -- you can more easily > find it. >=20 > How often do you print I-Ds/RFCs? >=20 > Nico >=20 --cOr6v03TdPIg0J20k8wDCce6V4MTkhCWR-- --MjXXdWTOD0CkIbgVf9OQ4NP5Of4NNLdAA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZL8d2AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcawPMQAMvRN0a4vEC6guLcQNoVjNq+ fxyDGRdTU31aQKinzK267MLM4lX//ilgMdXiVsQQrLMEgq1pDZqK73r0PrcJxdt6 UKIBgDTVFCPcExLuK9fL8idHzgmdXOFhs474mPaaEqE2zSqDJHby4F705RmuRFPE ULpzet52Vc2gUh/+lc8nRwLUNiOLC7CptunxAh3938XrfjMW1TrvHMUmzgP7NFj1 G7c0NYOzUuy6hLc2+dNbmrfHIxu+6sVlT5d4LP+iWtkT1C0HrGhbyIkCKU0BTUId QdvuYApB85tb2bcJLRLFWuyqSLg+BIJ6vniWvgfvOs/5Vac7o9dFucUL1LZavM0z OoosiWi1ZEPOaHV5C6kl8nw3XUc7wu5+bc8DBRWVewEpyTO6FGjq/zR3afS9A2Ad OkfNQLgbW1hojDC0kG1YvJjQ7OvbpqKA5geyMyMXiBQeKcXRo/wuDYCfH9gaoJPA 0a9wfBVqjoy7ga6c6de+AK2a8+RmHt7V+pIRkBbrakT+gdEEDRPX1ZAr8eUAEA9p iRXBGxowRaNOATVrQZ1XpCRXKOW/LrDBmkm7+cjnqJ4IkMGwI0V5DZz29SBOqvxr KgBYRhtU8TeV0YdYSaF2nPIezXeY2kEIvYj6KtU4c/2/0lzeqXr58AyUWftY9JRD HeYPUWoUtCzpxn4PW7B9 =0jJ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MjXXdWTOD0CkIbgVf9OQ4NP5Of4NNLdAA-- From nobody Thu Jun 1 02:58:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC074127867 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnjVnyd6WfDH for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96CD71200F1 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F001CA39B for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VDOYRW85Shw1 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:628:2017:12:c8f5:11f:4905:3dc6]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E94491CA388 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 02:58:02 -0700 (PDT) To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <771934e1-a4b1-18d9-d1cb-7c99cd339da4@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 11:58:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A28CE388DB64C4395324528D" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:58:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A28CE388DB64C4395324528D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/31/17 4:31 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> I don't personally really care whether it's done via PIs or vocabulary >> options, but I do care about having it. I suspect that there are people >> who very much would like to get rid of the PIs -- well, in that case, >> I think it's necessary to provide knobs in the vocabulary which does >> what's needed. Just ignoring page breaking isn't an option if we want >> to produce PDFs and paginated text that looks good. >> ... > > We had epic discussions about this topic, and IMHO the general feeling > was that paginated output really isn't that important. Even the > attribute you're referring to didn't get a real consensus. Hi all, Consensus on pagination was indeed rough. If you would like a refresh on the discussion, you can read the rfc-interest archives that hold that thread here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-February/thread.html Additionally, the design team discussed widows and orphans, and pagination in general, as we worked on the underlying principles for the work. We captured some of this discussion on the following wiki page: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=design:formats&s[]=semantic I'm not sure if the above information helps this particular discussion today, but I'd like folks to take a look at it and let me know if you have new information that informs the format work rather than having us end up rehashing what was already discussed. Thanks, Heather --------------A28CE388DB64C4395324528D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 5/31/17 4:31 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
I don't personally really care whether it's done via PIs or vocabulary
options, but I do care about having it.  I suspect that there are people
who very much would like to get rid of the PIs -- well, in that case,
I think it's necessary to provide knobs in the vocabulary which does
what's needed.  Just ignoring page breaking isn't an option if we want
to produce PDFs and paginated text that looks good.
...

We had epic discussions about this topic, and IMHO the general feeling was that paginated output really isn't that important. Even the attribute you're referring to didn't get a real consensus.


Hi all,

Consensus on pagination was indeed rough. If you would like a refresh on the discussion, you can read the rfc-interest archives that hold that thread here:

https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-February/thread.html

Additionally, the design team discussed widows and orphans, and pagination in general, as we worked on the underlying principles for the work. We captured some of this discussion on the following wiki page:

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=design:formats&s[]=semantic

I'm not sure if the above information helps this particular discussion today, but I'd like folks to take a look at it and let me know if you have new information that informs the format work rather than having us end up rehashing what was already discussed.

Thanks,

Heather

--------------A28CE388DB64C4395324528D-- From nobody Thu Jun 1 03:08:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF64F12EB2C for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.302 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.302 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8CroRzNJ4LLz for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E50091293DF for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAFE1CA39C for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cXLI3NgIn5ak for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:628:2017:12:c8f5:11f:4905:3dc6]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F6391CA387 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:08:17 -0700 (PDT) To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <592EE6F0.7010708@levkowetz.com> <4c3d6aba-aa57-fb2b-f588-9ca050e67926@gmx.de> <592EFDAE.9080900@levkowetz.com> <326ed1c9-8399-2c2f-c5fd-f2deeeef1369@gmx.de> <592F0532.6040809@levkowetz.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <4a9bb0f4-7707-48f5-b9cc-e650c28ea1fa@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:08:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:08:35 -0000 On 5/31/17 8:30 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2017-05-31 20:02, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> ... >> Ok. And hmm. ... And the IAB has pronounced that mailing list >> discussions >> on the topic are to be ignored, as long as there is no ticket? >> ... > > No. I just don't think that the authors of the v3bis spec actually are > reading this. Indeed, several of the authors are not on this list. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have discussion here (or on rfc-interest; it does rather depend on what type of people you want to engage - implementors or authors). I support the idea of a github issues list as the easiest way I know to actually keep track of the requests and outputs for each -bis doc, but the discussions are perforce going to split between there and a mailing list. Rather typical IETF community behavior at the moment. -Heather From nobody Thu Jun 1 04:36:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645FB129B5D for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 04:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJIG0TQOuEwI for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 04:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F12A51292F5 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 04:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:59471 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dGOPM-0004i0-HO; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 04:36:53 -0700 To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <771934e1-a4b1-18d9-d1cb-7c99cd339da4@rfc-editor.org> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <592FFC4C.6030600@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 13:36:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <771934e1-a4b1-18d9-d1cb-7c99cd339da4@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JMXLJRencEHhf8R6DGPXeWmhuXlgnWuJ9" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, rse@rfc-editor.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 11:36:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --JMXLJRencEHhf8R6DGPXeWmhuXlgnWuJ9 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="68lDrHdqoDhGoHhWmG2RRXLg0LGxLjpIW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <592FFC4C.6030600@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <771934e1-a4b1-18d9-d1cb-7c99cd339da4@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <771934e1-a4b1-18d9-d1cb-7c99cd339da4@rfc-editor.org> --68lDrHdqoDhGoHhWmG2RRXLg0LGxLjpIW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Heather, Trying to sum up the realisation that grew out of this discussion, for me, in one paragraph: Not having any support in the v3 vocabulary for attributes that would aff= ect page breaking will, given the PI-stripping done by the preptool, essentia= lly take all editorial control out of the hands of the RFC editor for paginat= ed output produced from RFCs published in XML form. Best regards, Henrik On 2017-06-01 11:58, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: > On 5/31/17 4:31 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> I don't personally really care whether it's done via PIs or vocabular= y >>> options, but I do care about having it. I suspect that there are peo= ple >>> who very much would like to get rid of the PIs -- well, in that case,= >>> I think it's necessary to provide knobs in the vocabulary which does >>> what's needed. Just ignoring page breaking isn't an option if we wan= t >>> to produce PDFs and paginated text that looks good. >>> ... >> >> We had epic discussions about this topic, and IMHO the general feeling= >> was that paginated output really isn't that important. Even the >> attribute you're referring to didn't get a real consensus.=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Consensus on pagination was indeed rough. If you would like a refresh o= n > the discussion, you can read the rfc-interest archives that hold that > thread here: >=20 > https://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-February/thread.= html >=20 > Additionally, the design team discussed widows and orphans, and > pagination in general, as we worked on the underlying principles for th= e > work. We captured some of this discussion on the following wiki page: >=20 > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=3Ddesign:formats&s[]=3D= semantic >=20 > I'm not sure if the above information helps this particular discussion > today, but I'd like folks to take a look at it and let me know if you > have new information that informs the format work rather than having us= > end up rehashing what was already discussed. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Heather >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 --68lDrHdqoDhGoHhWmG2RRXLg0LGxLjpIW-- --JMXLJRencEHhf8R6DGPXeWmhuXlgnWuJ9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZL/xNAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaXEwP/0VVs7uS1qbkr6hhMnprvqAp pLgTN+kk6f8rJuSZvsOBxEbmaznzRU2UnOoswoqKchMZ2j0ad3HQFBdO8nOSYIJj +AcJCqhL9nxE/swkeE2nWt9qPy4gJYumTSO7WaRpw/9QLQG0Mw7gD4YjML4Z5oBi irWfTrg2pD1WF2U0YVnxmz0HOU/2qbVEN2+pR3mlGPyFhucUHvY7NL6NJoxnHVmq HoZhTNr65HKZ7xJBbPYflCNnYGAjDYCOKej1tGcPnH8Qt2LiDhAlqwqrvU2IvIpt owxE/V9F78cT8N2j/btvbFIAzkvZWsmxPqeyVGt63j0Jq+ecev49Bl2jCPCQsAGw 8JXDd9RsBQTPUbPxVRcT/2dNjpcG9Wq3CMu7RUkIlfNRqdJDkCPBLTlUG4iLZGpn 8xBU0P1MEIjWsUjn7V4zlDqQwX9MEsAgcR6keQClRUqMbB3nzHH8TRfIPA4Qboeq FsRKX+cMdyiaxuY6/gP/0R3R1Yv+TCERscOxv2LLeASLFRHKUGOOdGz5jaemsjk/ aLuXMJgXbQs0n60FwTB5BavAvO03oOv2k0q0+xTAd9S2APp9cfCn8s8MSnUqDdo+ YWi83yXw0PXo/9mCgd3XOJ32rDFyUJfpeZljxKVL67VaqJEkGekSB4uLdc3pgfLd 0xd0qzu0QqMQtywg+q0X =XJJX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JMXLJRencEHhf8R6DGPXeWmhuXlgnWuJ9-- From nobody Fri Jun 2 05:30:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF4129515 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:30:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nRDn0yYchXpA for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (www.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::4945:4343]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64353129AEE for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 51178 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2017 12:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 2 Jun 2017 12:30:05 -0000 Date: 2 Jun 2017 12:29:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20170602122943.2124.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: xml2rfc@ietf.org Cc: julian.reschke@gmx.de In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 12:30:09 -0000 In article you write: >> Beats me. If the references had come from bibtex, they'd be right, so >> who knows what other tools they haven't been using. As you surely know, >> we can write all the tools we want but we can't force people to use them. >> ... > >Well, we know that an xml2rfc processor *is* used. That processor could >do a sanity check on the DOIs, in which case the problem might have been >detected during AUTH48. Well, sure, it could fetch them and make sure they work, and not just for RFCs. Should I put in a feature request? R's, John PS: it is my impression that some RFCs were still coming through nroff until quite recently. From nobody Fri Jun 2 05:42:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5E4129515 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHSQY3qgO78E for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23F1A12EB6B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 05:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MTBLi-1dRBWN0NfS-00S9GU; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:42:05 +0200 To: John Levine , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <20170602122943.2124.qmail@ary.lan> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:42:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170602122943.2124.qmail@ary.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Kbu/oQt49ra82/V7P1yU9hgQk8izbdj/c/VQQ/bODnlIl13Hai+ QDNwCg3IVgbcqvOsbZ9j4e4X9CnOwGJUvXxFrPs/1+Ho1Zj8a/+m1G69ctNMuO7skLCZwz2 kvhrCIlyp8NTa0AqwhKg1ffU6bfrUiQW7oPAydfh5cah4GqfeMesM/ti3uNHn0l6FLxADLy kfhyzMC4Xgd/MoLTFGnTg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:wOY2KnUewPw=:IYg8ep9UmDdVY6aIvR2d9j csY+Fk+UlPmmhTe584Uw7WguVNb2jcJceBBEkZqppCKg0n/26TV0zTjj6QXWQFJzLDUyXIwTt U9ajdxGCSV/Sbye4Su7YrbVNczHxuMvCPON7vu2AxcEB0jj601Avpl0O3/3wlxwHbS+Nbc0Qf ZrenSpQM1EiU9rtlm8XveJtc1bwuEozJ9DAalxYXbsS8KE7V9BrNofh9wCFXDSSZK+Ewy85yM bxTm2AiTgHTXcnwljJxM+Xs1c5+NHc2DJ9Ri8RitOsMlkElt3kv90XulSOUrEwupV+7Axeib6 KRiyV6TfT76XleAd5j5YGPEhRH3KUTOxHIJ9qujYInR01WVL77ma9neup1Nf7IpAQ5iQQYUD5 R8iV4y/ak7U0TeLidhCZXzolPNRJbe7QAqCYG4VFneSP53/RWkql7XNDuXVJwRvk5kaEOUAyc HK8TiGDJlEw2IuZFS9n5mJhY4JgyU8yh1ziBwXP9HRAUqe4siy9pyMMCFTZNzZRPI01eHbQNw Ll2AygkDOIWhZ1HmlNjgS44uvyHK14KJF+0HXn7aHL6neWTjBsTL+aYC1aiUHwdDXLxQ9VHCZ tgQrCRHOEbOHLn07mz7ORal2oVGQlTJUb70HvXWgSC/p7/9M7Qep4/fbY5pg0R24AemIkexzk 0KFsQi7ZiXvedV6YgjAxevzDwnDrowvxRjwPxp0DcmvR5lNNNo56knDd/1sQxj1PNF9BAPb8x CXICmddoHz6nqZKA7i94wXD1rQwcks/plB1Ia3fPR/LigtmWltOQ/PgphGIOvE56qvBaoQabE bAmiCE5 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 12:42:25 -0000 On 2017-06-02 14:29, John Levine wrote: > In article you write: >>> Beats me. If the references had come from bibtex, they'd be right, so >>> who knows what other tools they haven't been using. As you surely know, >>> we can write all the tools we want but we can't force people to use them. >>> ... >> >> Well, we know that an xml2rfc processor *is* used. That processor could >> do a sanity check on the DOIs, in which case the problem might have been >> detected during AUTH48. > > Well, sure, it could fetch them and make sure they work, and not just > for RFCs. Should I put in a feature request? > > R's, > John > > PS: it is my impression that some RFCs were still coming through nroff > until quite recently. ...those I found were already broken in the AUTH48 XML. Best regards, Julian From nobody Fri Jun 2 07:40:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88470128E19 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2WDuQu2hoADd for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF7E1242EA for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072401CA3D4; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r83zNSA3U8gM; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandygiozasmbp2.home (unknown [47.156.91.59]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC8591CA3D3; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Sandy Ginoza In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:40:54 -0700 Cc: John Levine , xml2rfc@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20170602122943.2124.qmail@ary.lan> To: Julian Reschke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:40:57 -0000 Julian, Did you use a script to check the DOIs? Would you be willing to share = with RPC so we can run it as part of our final checks before PUB?=20 Thanks, Sandy > On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:42 AM, Julian Reschke = wrote: >=20 > On 2017-06-02 14:29, John Levine wrote: >> In article you write: >>>> Beats me. If the references had come from bibtex, they'd be right, = so >>>> who knows what other tools they haven't been using. As you surely = know, >>>> we can write all the tools we want but we can't force people to use = them. >>>> ... >>>=20 >>> Well, we know that an xml2rfc processor *is* used. That processor = could >>> do a sanity check on the DOIs, in which case the problem might have = been >>> detected during AUTH48. >> Well, sure, it could fetch them and make sure they work, and not just >> for RFCs. Should I put in a feature request? >> R's, >> John >> PS: it is my impression that some RFCs were still coming through = nroff >> until quite recently. >=20 >=20 > ...those I found were already broken in the AUTH48 XML. >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 From nobody Fri Jun 2 07:53:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBAC12EBCF for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:53:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HahiHRSv5NNw for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D1E912953B for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLujU-1dFgQ72IrE-007lmm; Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:53:03 +0200 To: Sandy Ginoza Cc: John Levine , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <20170602122943.2124.qmail@ary.lan> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 16:53:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FPppuT5epFrRvHHvTqh91m5f/dgxUkZ8WI6n8Kfbay8RN2GBrkC Zl4tqH8ePuteXXR02JKkjQvdpopusYHAX838gmLZ4rJA/+k2N6aOLeubsuBRKxthm4dVvUz DYwVXiSprbQIV93vA/WEfhWcTUpIS19JB9b6SSmt710SL9DOegCDAhYeTql7TMbX0RFRHsX 0t9lXrbt6Xu/CeBqMfVMg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gT/rIAc8aoA=:cgAYSewqt9wG5c+snyvEzz QMGgpT7RvlPxjRsxH5rUV6RhVbI8jKeCfGAA57Z7mZwCk5WAyAwAYifQ7NIG7sxpssz0vJjBw yWwGorHwb4v/jE8VwCRT2Z4noN9W59Ny+dT1dVRj40WZa+Z3c0s7AmDV92P6lXLn0BL/E56w6 08OrNFrkxIOkyRoZMsR9RR25GmeyFppuN82vvbrKTIJIbroXNPhVZY2H37jNNtG7Pl3sBdjPi Nbq9Vh8L7yIrY3kgTs82pF7NmLxdMGnstwmUy5mGSL5yDqq+N3vAaloHMQhwL59bSn7vyB7tN N7XCPPGE6TOcD2tEDqqzFDysWiwfpkosnYpJl0Xxdgtv+STPhWpPGSiXMGT1x567n60BeTS6o 2vbsABNVWVXPFgv/zG4FdT78Damno7al9SGGAdjFDwDDMqaBB2EzL2w+7d6NON7KYQmUN726l h4pCoT0ZLgGyBe2wlHebrSJvr/07RqC4Rr2ke0sdP2NO9mJ8rkH5rEWWJgESNFeUUIpPQhDga IN4Wr8MRDIEXnvgyCr6LG2NfAGfTSThc/gAV3y4Jrc8oLT6VVLmnzTIzYIW79s6XD6xkrrXhh PQC5BmeGAZmI6CYEmTwFm/8JOpR2TF6TbBIMpOId8Hr5iMC9sBY6JjHdH/gxSxA7O0qHa6agh IUm8LnLWzMcnMwli/oJNWV20esSPprHKGG9xwXhK+kHmX5umbMZ3lxZc3PSQk11qbjw9SZYWy UJLlRO/2cPSgNsOFXF8s7XF5Laqxd3aYawGvSSHrMbdXPUVdF4SKOjnuwP51QC+oi5gkcJAX8 8OIWqNt Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:53:38 -0000 On 2017-06-02 16:40, Sandy Ginoza wrote: > Julian, > > Did you use a script to check the DOIs? Would you be willing to share with RPC so we can run it as part of our final checks before PUB? > > Thanks, > Sandy It's part of the diagnostics generated by rfc2629.xslt. The output for the (XML-formatted) RFCs in AUTH48 can be found (as news feed) at http://greenbytes.de/tech/tc/xml2rfc/rfcdiags.atom>. Best regards, Julian From nobody Sat Jun 3 08:25:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA0D12EAA4; Sat, 3 Jun 2017 08:25:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H8BVt7NKpC3W; Sat, 3 Jun 2017 08:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5D2112EA7C; Sat, 3 Jun 2017 08:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from henrik by durif.tools.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dHAvu-0000uR-Jn; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 08:25:42 -0700 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org Cc: codesprints@ietf.org, rfc-markdown@ietf.org Message-Id: From: Henrik Levkowetz Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 08:25:42 -0700 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: codesprints@ietf.org, rfc-markdown@ietf.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: v2.6.1 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 15:25:44 -0000 Hi, This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, v2.6.1, generated when running the mkrelease script. Release notes: xml2rfc (2.6.1) ietf; urgency=low * Inialised the widow and orphan limit settings from PIs. Did some related refactoring. * Added an option to show the known PIs, and their default values. Also commented out PIs for which there are no implementations from the internal PI list, and did some refactoring of the option parser setup. * Changed a number of numeric constants related to page breaking which occured inline in the code, so that appropriate settings on the writer are used instead: self.page_end_blank_lines, self.orphan_limit, self.widow_limit. Some refactoring. * Restored support for the quiet= argument to writers, as this is used by other tools that invoke writers, and backwards compatibility is desired. * Added a mkrelease script. * Limited the changelog on the pypi page to the 2 latest releases. The new version is available through SVN checkout, with 'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/2.6.1' Regards, Henrik (via the mkrelease script) From nobody Mon Jun 5 09:12:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8929129B43 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6rKj0lSmJhez for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [68.183.62.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E875D129B3A for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01QF6GWOGHA800TQ4M@mauve.mrochek.com> for xml2rfc@ietf.org; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:07:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01QF6F6TI08G007PE1@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 05 Jun 2017 09:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: "HANSEN, TONY L" , Julian Reschke , "ietf@augustcellars.com" , "xml2rfc@ietf.org" Message-id: <01QF6GWH8I7Y007PE1@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed In-reply-to: "Your message dated Wed, 31 May 2017 20:19:15 +0200" <592F0923.70602@levkowetz.com> Sender: Ned Freed References: <063.51428a1cd6409fe1fce654c06bff9ff4@tools.ietf.org> <078.790373a98a2bc1808546b983f4b0aa55@tools.ietf.org> <592ECE6B.2040409@levkowetz.com> <592EE6F0.7010708@levkowetz.com> <4c3d6aba-aa57-fb2b-f588-9ca050e67926@gmx.de> <592EFDAE.9080900@levkowetz.com> <326ed1c9-8399-2c2f-c5fd-f2deeeef1369@gmx.de> <592F0923.70602@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Page break controls (Was:#311 (Version 2 cli): ability to suppress author org on first page) X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 16:12:10 -0000 > Hi Tony, > On 2017-05-31 20:01, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > > On 5/31/17, 1:37 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Julian Reschke" wrote: > > > > On 2017-05-31 19:30, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > ... > > >> Then a formatter should just do that automatically. Why does it need a > > >> hint for that? > > > > > > Because there might be a judgement call here. But certainly, if the RFC > > > Editor makes a request for such a feature, it can be added! > > > > There are two different things that have been getting discussed here: > > 1) orphan+widow control, and 2) having some way to ensure that > > certain larger blocks are kept together. > > > > The v3 PDF spec requires that the processor does proper orphan and > > widow control. This is a given, at least for PDF output. > But it doesn't provide for any settings related to that. And as I just > discovered for one RFC, the desired number of lines kept together on > each side of the break may differ between what a human finds optimal, > and what's encoded in a tool. > > The current v3 text spec removed all discussion of pagification. If > > you dislike that, be a squeaky wheel. > I'm definitely objecting. And I thought it was and expressed desire to > get feedback on the specifications, as work on implementation got done? FWIW, I object as well. The ability to control pagination would be quite useful. > Was I wrong in that? If so, and if the IAB is willing to say that the > deficiencies I observe should be ignored, then, I won't feel there's > much sense in saying anything, of course. I share your doubts that there's any point to objecting. Again, FWIW: This argument about pagination control has been going on at least since the days of DEC-10 RUNOFF (1975?) and likely predates that. It's but one front in the never-ending war between abstact and device markup. The abstract markup folks point out, correctly, that device markup is inherently nonportable, so when you render on a device other than the intended one it's going to look like crap. The device markup folks point out, also correctly, that layout is a subtle and complex business, and no program has ever been designed that does it as well as humans do. And indeed, most programs do a surprisingly poor job. I could go on and talk about the counterarguments, compromise proposals, the various skirmishes in the development of various tools, and so on, but I see no point in rehashing all of it. The bottom line is that we usually end up with something that makes nobody happy: Device-specific positioning controls, if any are provided, are usually badly designed and inadequate. But at one point I realized something: I actually spend more time looking at the input source than I do looking at the output. So during the document production process any time I spend on prettying things up is applied to the source even though that's not something anyone else other than my coauthors is going to see. And in the case of Internet Drafts, I'm afraid I no longer look at my own xml2rfc output at all. I also don't bother giving aesthetic feedback to the RFC Editor during the final steps of document production. As for drafts from other people, I use the datatracker. And while there are cases where it would be really convenient to print something out, I no longer bother because I know what I'm likely to get. > > However, the v3 vocabulary does not have a way to say “keep this > > block together if at all possible”. If you want something along those > > lines, be a squeaky wheel. > I think that whoever is supposed to be in control of this specification > (and Julian's comment about 'raise tickets' makes me feel that exactly > who that is, is somewhat obscure) should care when deficiencies are > pointed out. Even if in some ears it sounds as a squeaky wheel. Channeling my inner Brian Reid, another thing I no longer care about is what it sounds like when I talk about this stuff. 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References: <68820C86-072E-49FA-B003-1375E1C5B04F@att.com> In-Reply-To: <68820C86-072E-49FA-B003-1375E1C5B04F@att.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:37:32 -0000 Using the online tool (https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/). I just found the problem =E2=80=A6 I deleted one extra by mistake =E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m sending you the file in pvt so you can use it to debug it why i= s not being reported correctly, in case is not my fault for whatever reason= =E2=80=A6. Regards, Jordi =20 -----Mensaje original----- De: "HANSEN, TONY L" Responder a: Fecha: lunes, 12 de junio de 2017, 17:32 Para: "jordi.palet@consulintel.es" , "xml2rfc@i= etf.org" Asunto: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? I think for this one, we=E2=80=99d need to see the input file. =E2=80= =9Cline 1, column 33851=E2=80=9D literally means the 33851st column of the = 1st line. Unless your input file consists of a single looooooooong line, th= ere=E2=80=99s probably a bug. =20 Also, we need to know if you=E2=80=99re using the online web page or yo= ur own standalone copy of xml2rfc. If the standalone copy, we=E2=80=99d als= o need to know which version. =20 Tony =20 On 6/12/17, 10:45 AM, "xml2rfc on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" wrote: =20 Hi, =20 I=E2=80=99m trying to upload a document with is a cut down version = from a previous one =E2=80=A6 =20 I believe everything is ok, and can=E2=80=99t find the problem, but= I get =20 WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section li= ne 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and= middle INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and= middle INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middle line 1 and = rfc INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line 1 =20 =20 What actually means column 33851? =20 Thanks! =20 Regards, Jordi =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.consulint= el.es&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=3DKz8VdgPVctDNSNPJ6PsBaw&m=3D= R2l2dxtFRERlf7u9mUgKZn3qStjAv6pSREv9bHD3Gqk&s=3Dvxb7wIu8-f2x8mH57u3NPr26iRB= Ti9V0sg5SrI8m66k&e=3D=20 The IPv6 Company =20 This electronic message contains information which may be privilege= d or confidential. 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[184.189.217.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a187sm17155993pgc.37.2017.06.12.09.10.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <0748C4BB-5FE8-4122-8988-1B79D35A73FB@consulintel.es> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:10:04 -0700 Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0748C4BB-5FE8-4122-8988-1B79D35A73FB@consulintel.es> To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:10:09 -0000 =46rom tools.ietf.org, Bill Fenner has an XML validator. = https://fenron.com/~fenner/ietf/xml2rfc-valid/. Note; the certificate is = expired, and Firefox will give you heartburn over the fact. But it is = usually better in its diagnostics than XML2RFC. > On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:45 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I=E2=80=99m trying to upload a document with is a cut down version = from a previous one =E2=80=A6 >=20 > I believe everything is ok, and can=E2=80=99t find the problem, but I = get >=20 > WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line = 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) > ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and = middle > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and = middle > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middle line 1 and rfc > INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line 1 >=20 >=20 > What actually means column 33851? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Regards, > Jordi >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The IPv6 Company >=20 > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged = or confidential. 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References: <0748C4BB-5FE8-4122-8988-1B79D35A73FB@consulintel.es> In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:12:31 -0000 Thanks Fred, all, I tried it, but didn=E2=80=99t worked =E2=80=A6 I needed to go again line by line doing a manual checking in my xml to find= the problem =E2=80=A6 Saludos, Jordi =20 -----Mensaje original----- De: Fred Baker Responder a: Fecha: lunes, 12 de junio de 2017, 18:10 Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ CC: Asunto: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? From tools.ietf.org, Bill Fenner has an XML validator. https://fenron.c= om/~fenner/ietf/xml2rfc-valid/. Note; the certificate is expired, and Firef= ox will give you heartburn over the fact. But it is usually better in its d= iagnostics than XML2RFC. =20 > On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:45 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I=E2=80=99m trying to upload a document with is a cut down version fr= om a previous one =E2=80=A6 >=20 > I believe everything is ok, and can=E2=80=99t find the problem, but I= get >=20 > WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line= 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) > ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and mi= ddle > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and mi= ddle > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middle line 1 and rfc > INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line 1 >=20 >=20 > What actually means column 33851? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Regards, > Jordi >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The IPv6 Company >=20 > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged = or confidential. 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Sample file with the problem (I deleted on extra at the end of the security section. -- ----------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: jordi.palet@consulintel.es | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Keywords: | ----------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Mon Jun 12 10:28:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACF01293FD for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSwPn_agVZya for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9119C1241FC for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049459.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049459.ppops.net-00191d01. 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References: <074.3eaf79aa79890352f16ea609b6949532@tools.ietf.org> <0324DF3A-4072-401B-B875-C9A7D31804AE@att.com> In-Reply-To: <0324DF3A-4072-401B-B875-C9A7D31804AE@att.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #332 (Version 2 cli): Getting error at column 33851 ... X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:33:23 -0000 I just realized that I got the original xml that I used to keep working on = this document from the RFC editor, as I wasn=E2=80=99t the original author,= so that may be the root of the problem. I will find the way to replace CR with newline across all the document to a= void this problem in the future anyway. Regards, Jordi =20 -----Mensaje original----- De: "HANSEN, TONY L" Responder a: Fecha: lunes, 12 de junio de 2017, 19:27 Para: "henrik@levkowetz.com" , "jordi.palet@consulint= el.es" CC: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" Asunto: Re: [xml2rfc] #332 (Version 2 cli): Getting error at column 33851 .= .. Using CR as the line separator is the root of the issue. The XML librar= y we use would treat that as whitespace, but not a newline. That would defi= nitely explain things. =20 Tony =20 On 6/12/17, 12:45 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of xml2rfc issue tracker" wrote: =20 #332: Getting error at column 33851 ... =20 I=E2=80=99m trying to upload a document with is a cut down version= from a previous one =E2=80=A6 =20 I believe everything is ok, and can=E2=80=99t find the= problem, but I get =20 WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatc= h: section line 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: secti= on line 1 and middle INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: secti= on line 1 and middle INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middl= e line 1 and rfc INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line = 1 =20 =20 I use Mac OS X BBEdit (before was TextWrangler), it seems to use x= 0D as line separator. =20 Sample file with the problem (I deleted on extra at th= e end of the security section. =20 --=20 ----------------------------------------+--------------------------= -------- Reporter: jordi.palet@consulintel.es | Owner: henrik@levko= wetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Keywords: | ----------------------------------------+--------------------------= -------- =20 Ticket URL: xml2rfc =20 _______________________________________________ xml2rfc mailing list xml2rfc@ietf.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org= _mailman_listinfo_xml2rfc&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=3DKz8VdgP= VctDNSNPJ6PsBaw&m=3DkZ61yPPYfcLI5mDaZdksoJisP9JePMxeUURd07oLc-Y&s=3DvO-MgLj= vdVih4H7n7uosS9jj_ko_UhsbWUMeh7urF1Y&e=3D=20 =20 =20 =20 ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or con= fidential. 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X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:43:59 -0000 On 6/12/17 12:12 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Thanks Fred, all, > > I tried it, but didn’t worked … > > I needed to go again line by line doing a manual checking in my xml to find the problem … I have no *good* way, but do have some unpleasant ways that usually work *eventually*: 1) always make xml changes a little bit at a time. Verify each with xml2rfc before doing more. 2) If I've just made a change to a file that previously worked and now doesn't, roll back the change. Then follow (1): start introducing it again a little bit at a time. 3) If for some reason you are faced with an xml file that doesn't work and no prior version that does, then binary search it for errors. Chop out a chunk that would leave the file well formed if all was well outside of it. Do this until you find a piece that contains the errors. Then start looking for smaller parts inside it that contain the error. This process can be quite painful to execute successfully. Or you might get lucky. Thanks, Paul > Saludos, > Jordi > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Fred Baker > Responder a: > Fecha: lunes, 12 de junio de 2017, 18:10 > Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > CC: > Asunto: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? > > From tools.ietf.org, Bill Fenner has an XML validator. https://fenron.com/~fenner/ietf/xml2rfc-valid/. Note; the certificate is expired, and Firefox will give you heartburn over the fact. But it is usually better in its diagnostics than XML2RFC. > > > On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:45 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I’m trying to upload a document with is a cut down version from a previous one … > > > > I believe everything is ok, and can’t find the problem, but I get > > > > WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) > > ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT > > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and middle > > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 and middle > > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middle line 1 and rfc > > INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line 1 > > > > > > What actually means column 33851? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Regards, > > Jordi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > IPv4 is over > > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > > http://www.consulintel.es > > The IPv6 Company > > > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > xml2rfc mailing list > > xml2rfc@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > > > > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc > From nobody Mon Jun 12 10:55:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599F12EAB2 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:55:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LFRxxBRgWLjR for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCE112952E for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60986 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dKTYW-0003ZZ-Fm; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:55:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:55:12 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/332#comment:1 Message-ID: <089.6cd737f96a8dcad331980bbea94a025a@tools.ietf.org> References: <074.3eaf79aa79890352f16ea609b6949532@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 332 In-Reply-To: <074.3eaf79aa79890352f16ea609b6949532@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #332 (Version 2 cli): Getting error at column 33851 ... X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:55:15 -0000 #332: Getting error at column 33851 ... Comment (by henrik@levkowetz.com): Thank you, Jordi. If I arrange things a bit differently internally in xml2rfc, in order to deal with the input file using MAC line endings, I get this error message instead; I hope that will help you proceed. I'll run the changes through the test suite, and make this fix part of the next release, so we deal bettwer with MAC line endings.): {{{ Parsing file tests/input/draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-transition-00.xml WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 299 and middle, line 634, column 12 (line 634) ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: tests/input/draft-palet-v6ops- rfc7084-bis-transition-00.xml /home/henrik/src/xml2rfc/trunk/cli/tests/input/draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084 -bis-transition-00.xml: Line 634: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 299 and middle /home/henrik/src/xml2rfc/trunk/cli/tests/input/draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084 -bis-transition-00.xml: Line 1: Document is empty /home/henrik/src/xml2rfc/trunk/cli/tests/input/draft-palet-v6ops-rfc7084 -bis-transition-00.xml: Line 1: Start tag expected, '<' not found }}} FWIW, the error message above tells me that the section which starts on line 299 doesn't have a matching end tag; instead a end tag was found. -- -----------------------------------------+--------------------------------- Reporter: jordi.palet@consulintel.es | Owner: Type: defect | henrik@levkowetz.com Priority: medium | Status: new Component: Version 2 cli | Milestone: Resolution: | Version: 2.4.x | Keywords: -----------------------------------------+--------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Mon Jun 12 11:31:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B857E129649 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:31:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yj8VMpD7GW0C for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C0EC129548 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049462.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. 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([2406:e007:7b4b:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s9sm5147902pfe.21.2017.06.12.13.35.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:35:26 -0700 (PDT) To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <0748C4BB-5FE8-4122-8988-1B79D35A73FB@consulintel.es> <051590FC-72DD-4BC3-8797-32013E0A873A@consulintel.es> <5fb483fc-171b-ec07-ec6f-4031ac343bf6@comcast.net> From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland Message-ID: <32114599-8352-9d6f-2895-ef34a28ea9f3@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:35:24 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5fb483fc-171b-ec07-ec6f-4031ac343bf6@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 20:35:30 -0000 On 13/06/2017 05:43, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 6/12/17 12:12 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> Thanks Fred, all, >> >> I tried it, but didn=E2=80=99t worked =E2=80=A6 >> >> I needed to go again line by line doing a manual checking in my xml to= find the problem =E2=80=A6 >=20 > I have no *good* way, but do have some unpleasant ways that usually wor= k=20 > *eventually*: >=20 > 1) always make xml changes a little bit at a time. Verify each with=20 > xml2rfc before doing more. I use "XML Copy Editor" to edit xml2rfc, and you can check that the=20 XML is well-formed with a single click while editing. (You have to provide it with rfc2629.dtd and the underlying .ent files.) That's significantly easier than invoking xml2rfc repeatedly. It doesn't catch everything, but it definitely catches a missing . Of course, it can't guess where the missing was meant to be. I just tried deleting a just before the Security Consideration= in a draft, and XML Copy Editor says this: Error at line 2135, column 5: mismatched tag and that line is actually , which is where any recursive descent= will catch the missing . Brian >=20 > 2) If I've just made a change to a file that previously worked and now = > doesn't, roll back the change. Then follow (1): start introducing it=20 > again a little bit at a time. >=20 > 3) If for some reason you are faced with an xml file that doesn't work = > and no prior version that does, then binary search it for errors. Chop = > out a chunk that would leave the file well formed if all was well=20 > outside of it. Do this until you find a piece that contains the errors.= =20 > Then start looking for smaller parts inside it that contain the error. = > This process can be quite painful to execute successfully. Or you might= =20 > get lucky. >=20 > Thanks, > Paul >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Saludos, >> Jordi >> =20 >> >> -----Mensaje original----- >> De: Fred Baker >> Responder a: >> Fecha: lunes, 12 de junio de 2017, 18:10 >> Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ >> CC: >> Asunto: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? >> >> From tools.ietf.org, Bill Fenner has an XML validator. https://fe= nron.com/~fenner/ietf/xml2rfc-valid/. Note; the certificate is expired, a= nd Firefox will give you heartburn over the fact. But it is usually bette= r in its diagnostics than XML2RFC. >> =20 >> > On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:45 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I=E2=80=99m trying to upload a document with is a cut down vers= ion from a previous one =E2=80=A6 >> > >> > I believe everything is ok, and can=E2=80=99t find the problem,= but I get >> > >> > WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: sectio= n line 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) >> > ERROR: Unable to parse the XML document: INPUT >> > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 = and middle >> > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line 1 = and middle >> > INPUT: Line 1: Opening and ending tag mismatch: middle line 1 a= nd rfc >> > INPUT: Line 1: Premature end of data in tag rfc line 1 >> > >> > >> > What actually means column 33851? >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jordi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ********************************************** >> > IPv4 is over >> > Are you ready for the new Internet ? >> > http://www.consulintel.es >> > The IPv6 Company >> > >> > This electronic message contains information which may be privi= leged or confidential. 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Worley) To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <0748C4BB-5FE8-4122-8988-1B79D35A73FB@consulintel.es> (jordi.palet@consulintel.es) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:41:52 -0400 Message-ID: <8760g0kc3j.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfI3w/0lhj30mo5K6K2GSjkBNHSj0nDmkzj9IOsQs/OfJlRGsuRCwE90uT5EXLDxcLKTauSBGip+Wo8rAFl/dgtIFXIMPh8rKlgNUplzJevZu1J85E+dY 4keCkmOdRz87pJJy2ROxJkjJgR3NxnwSG8t4Ygxq0+kY6YZSBTVjLj/IvnH7Bhs7iNI4w65Im+0CMOKccHPJ1qhIC19KY81xEyw= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] how to debug an error? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:41:59 -0000 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ writes: > I'm trying to upload a document with is a cut down version from a > previous one ... > > I believe everything is ok, and can't find the problem, but I get I use Emacs. The recent versions of Emacs have an XML mode that will tell you whether the file is well-formed. > WARNING: Parsing Error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: section line > 1 and middle, line 1, column 33851 (line 1) If a program thinks the input is one enormously long line, a common cause is that the line-endings in the file are something that the program doesn't recognize as line endings. 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Worley) To: "HANSEN\, TONY L" Cc: henrik@levkowetz.com, jordi.palet@consulintel.es, xml2rfc@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <0324DF3A-4072-401B-B875-C9A7D31804AE@att.com> (tony@att.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: <8737b4kbqa.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPVcPlMm07k+1/CMusum8TBrsDFguErmWfOb8YYqZuJzruA1eZw2Oaz6NtQo3PCD3feKrfBUSOtnW15sTCB0mGiHH7YreEzYqVCUAb//28U9cfA7PH8H Jzmbr5YQPXJ8/aAyZnri9t3a2DkXxO6u/Z+fbcagF2qYnJ9d+fMW5z/jvfJEk11BgV/8SwubEtTkHqzuFMA328a/TWyp/qWt1NWI+O8OS3HiecCbHxhtCamc gnTEXBsmp1o87VeKAR5gwQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #332 (Version 2 cli): Getting error at column 33851 ... X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:49:55 -0000 "HANSEN, TONY L" writes: > Using CR as the line separator is the root of the issue. The XML > library we use would treat that as whitespace, but not a newline. That > would definitely explain things. That's strange behavior, because the XML specification ("Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fifth Edition)", http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#sec-white-space), section 2.11 says that a naked CR must be translated into an NL: To simplify the tasks of applications, the XML processor MUST behave as if it normalized all line breaks in external parsed entities (including the document entity) on input, before parsing, by translating both the two-character sequence #xD #xA and any #xD that is not followed by #xA to a single #xA character. 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Release notes: xml2rfc (2.6.2) ietf; urgency=low * Refactored the input file reading to accept files with Mac line endings, using python's Universal Newline support. This should make xml2rfc deal correctly with input files following DOS, MAC and Linux line-ending conventions. The new version is available through SVN checkout, with 'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/2.6.2' Regards, Henrik (via the mkrelease script) From nobody Mon Jun 19 06:32:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7600131458 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5nXVeb_yaLL4 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F89E129534 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44794 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dMwmg-0001D2-Qu; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 06:32:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:32:02 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/332#comment:2 Message-ID: <089.3cbe4e44e14c4fdd395765c9cde7d1b6@tools.ietf.org> References: <074.3eaf79aa79890352f16ea609b6949532@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 332 In-Reply-To: <074.3eaf79aa79890352f16ea609b6949532@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #332 (Version 2 cli): Getting error at column 33851 ... X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:32:10 -0000 #332: Getting error at column 33851 ... Changes (by henrik@levkowetz.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed in [2339]: Refactored the input file reading to accept files with Mac line endings, using python's Universal Newline support. This should make xml2rfc deal correctly with input files following DOS, MAC and Linux line-ending conventions. -- -----------------------------------------+--------------------------------- Reporter: jordi.palet@consulintel.es | Owner: Type: defect | henrik@levkowetz.com Priority: medium | Status: closed Component: Version 2 cli | Milestone: Resolution: fixed | Version: 2.4.x | Keywords: -----------------------------------------+--------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Tue Jun 20 13:24:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FB7131636 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q2A31KCNbI3K for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7820313162C for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41845 helo=durif.tools.ietf.org) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dNPh7-0003WY-FI; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:24:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, cabo@tzi.org X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:24:13 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/308#comment:3 Message-ID: <082.acd4ddccb3df7498d1e8a554d974b913@tools.ietf.org> References: <067.c476289a4cc36deb4e5527f33b090f4c@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 308 In-Reply-To: <067.c476289a4cc36deb4e5527f33b090f4c@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, cabo@tzi.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #308 (Version 2 cli): Wrong links for elements X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:24:17 -0000 #308: Wrong links for elements Changes (by henrik@levkowetz.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => invalid Comment: The immediate issue here is that the html version on tools.ietf.org is generated from the text draft, not from the xml. However, the workaround of using xrefs and symrefs="yes" (which is also the default) should result in the bracketed reference string being rendered as the rfc string instead, which in turn will result in it being converted to a link to the document by the rfcmarkup script that creates that html version. In other words: This is not an issue with the xml2rfc program, it's an issue resulting from the fact that the tools.ietf.org/html/ documents are generated from the text version. -- ----------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: erik.wilde@dret.net | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: critical | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.4.x Resolution: invalid | Keywords: ----------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Fri Jun 23 09:21:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFCA1296B3 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rQ-q4VPvWe81 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 093901289B0 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FFD1CA52C; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id poy1fAgGk3k8; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-50-159-75-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [50.159.75.65]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C91551CA42C; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) To: xml2rfc@ietf.org From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:21:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:21:16 -0000 Hi all, Sorry it took a while. I've worked with Tony to revive the old xml2rfc-dev list (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc-dev) as a place where discussion around v3 tooling issues can happen (until such time as the tools go into production and become the default). My concern is that trying to have v2 tools AND v3 tools discussion on the xml2rfc@ietf list is too confusing and will miss some of the key authors on the v3 -bis drafts. One of the goals for discussion on xml2rfc-dev is to create well formatted issues to feed back into the -bis process for the various requirements documents, which will be posted in the appropriate github repository for tracking (see https://github.com/rfc-format for the pointers to all the -bis drafts). Thank you all for your interest and support! -Heather From nobody Tue Jun 27 11:28:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17E7127137 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V3ULUWRrhR_u for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F9B01292FD for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:56080 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dPvDb-0007iI-3Q; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 11:28:08 -0700 To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <12f796de-3ad1-13fb-2dd9-9767256e7f7a@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 20:27:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LSuLVJPxd52Q8aSJ8S8vG88WFnOebfPk6" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, rse@rfc-editor.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:28:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LSuLVJPxd52Q8aSJ8S8vG88WFnOebfPk6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="usVw2M4xO9iLEuaRRqSffvtPF90MuUvEX"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <12f796de-3ad1-13fb-2dd9-9767256e7f7a@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion References: In-Reply-To: --usVw2M4xO9iLEuaRRqSffvtPF90MuUvEX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Heather, Thank you for this. I'm currently working on the v2v3 converter, and I've just run into something I'd like to ask about. Will do so there :-)= Best regards, Henrik On 2017-06-23 18:21, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Sorry it took a while. I've worked with Tony to revive the old > xml2rfc-dev list (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc-dev) as= > a place where discussion around v3 tooling issues can happen (until suc= h > time as the tools go into production and become the default). My concer= n > is that trying to have v2 tools AND v3 tools discussion on the > xml2rfc@ietf list is too confusing and will miss some of the key author= s > on the v3 -bis drafts. >=20 > One of the goals for discussion on xml2rfc-dev is to create well > formatted issues to feed back into the -bis process for the various > requirements documents, which will be posted in the appropriate github > repository for tracking (see https://github.com/rfc-format for the > pointers to all the -bis drafts). >=20 > Thank you all for your interest and support! >=20 > -Heather >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 --usVw2M4xO9iLEuaRRqSffvtPF90MuUvEX-- --LSuLVJPxd52Q8aSJ8S8vG88WFnOebfPk6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZUqOvAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcavdgQAM46F8fTxn+z/h8+pRQPbylt WW8zx8gwIgpUlB4rK1evMc7Ah8MDCtlBR9AIOvXfy8Gx9w0wYrCTFmw+KKpN3Oqo L8uG7X7AxVUfBYIwEzmeqpDW0Em7ZVyq7gXEsQo8y4B7oylzrwzd37h3GoTl7xS3 Gi+wnk+dACXI5FYVL3TKPcsWP461XgDpqHo3peZQbbIyNDp27baeBT2+IJ1eRt/G J7T14FumIexZnwREhupZcXvTWLEE0PYVUKW1OEvoZ9ouvawo9f/CA79fbovO1T2V CRq/Ls+gdvQwXsfEnjGFo+qe1YOTapuCTQEMpYk0afPZfVr6aFvhDiiQ6zErcc/w YcUJud39jazy2OOrO9XfYeB9xoFkPpyBYOfBPSVRFDF+RjAZKo7KvSqe5YOxBNxD xsowfbHgoFEwynTG3pF0cXX2W5Ytz2vkgb3R8jxN5QyCjutLu8I5hkJhHACXDiES OddXg0Z4DQEJnWpNUHuW0UL+/oYnJA6cTGvrHk7b5JjtUuXJNnYLTbvFmcEuImF1 lBuX2WGBacHJco9+j9zHL5BjOUmG2k8c+CT+7zxcxRiZusBoL6j4L4r0NEOWmEde Gmw9xPdkNWrvai6B7LZxMO7yFnH0g+wSb96Ad21c6X/Jd8pQmmxmES5YbnfMC7iB 0IeanqDaueDDypaRzFqk =W9q+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LSuLVJPxd52Q8aSJ8S8vG88WFnOebfPk6-- From nobody Tue Jun 27 12:56:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC80112EB21 for ; 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I'm currently working on the v2v3 converter, and > I've just run into something I'd like to ask about. Will do so there :-) > > Best regards, > > Henrik FWIW, prep-xml2rfc.xslt attempts some v2->v3 conversion as well. It would be interesting to compare notes and test results... Best regards, Julian From nobody Wed Jun 28 07:24:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0CD12EA81 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WFVaFw7VQuY9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 344CC129B23 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:63798 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by durif.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dQDsu-0000xr-Rg; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:24:01 -0700 To: Julian Reschke , "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <12f796de-3ad1-13fb-2dd9-9767256e7f7a@levkowetz.com> <92b71394-d030-cc1d-0a7d-85e750889e0f@gmx.de> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <2ac550d6-6197-cbb5-aae9-db33405e9505@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:23:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92b71394-d030-cc1d-0a7d-85e750889e0f@gmx.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x8LT1kf0J6W3CumAFLhxjradEnIVf99bI" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: xml2rfc@ietf.org, rse@rfc-editor.org, julian.reschke@gmx.de X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on durif.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:24:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --x8LT1kf0J6W3CumAFLhxjradEnIVf99bI Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOlDxAQ2Tkrk3lRJw8iS7dLQ4X1IxrIVU"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Julian Reschke , "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <2ac550d6-6197-cbb5-aae9-db33405e9505@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion References: <12f796de-3ad1-13fb-2dd9-9767256e7f7a@levkowetz.com> <92b71394-d030-cc1d-0a7d-85e750889e0f@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <92b71394-d030-cc1d-0a7d-85e750889e0f@gmx.de> --BOlDxAQ2Tkrk3lRJw8iS7dLQ4X1IxrIVU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Julian On 2017-06-27 21:56, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2017-06-27 20:27, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Heather, >>=20 >> Thank you for this. I'm currently working on the v2v3 converter, and >> I've just run into something I'd like to ask about. Will do so there = :-) >>=20 >> Best regards, >>=20 >> Henrik >=20 > FWIW, prep-xml2rfc.xslt attempts some v2->v3 conversion as well. It=20 > would be interesting to compare notes and test results... Indeed. I'll ping you when I think my version is feature complete (handl= es all deprecations mentioned in the RFC in what I believe is the appropriat= e way). Best regards, Henrik --BOlDxAQ2Tkrk3lRJw8iS7dLQ4X1IxrIVU-- --x8LT1kf0J6W3CumAFLhxjradEnIVf99bI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZU7v5AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaorgP/R0dAxIQAjBiBE8lqmBsQa07 mYCCBKkyA0FbIF5ikstSslyEepd+g0XFwDl1Y7giirK8M9y1p/NTgM4ZzEXBA1my 0UXxs7PGv2KIzcdSxZaVud/F1YQzDoWO2mt6yjbzXVygGIl/KgXdGVnbE3Jp12Ce hX2C3qgvXqNhyjGVBCFDD8LoWh3DSMYaY1OUooi8mCklT1NvEbedbTwGcgONajnn SheQxT9MK7KJTpKTeEnUD84EyklV8WQOjNOF3QzuCN7kmWoHxApYLiv77ONeLOW2 WxzH7PkCmHCkSbrQ+HkSU99E1EtYaeReelrAgy3er8+eUACK6dkAQ42W22g2aJv/ CWjrfTzd0ihq3eoGmQwOyHXxSPLCORL/qr1nmBO7IiEXa3RNWg42O2qPvhuXuFNo 5/qumyZX59AcxpyFZLz8io2ef+5dMN925e8p1GrxJdI9kYWHt5Ww77xtE2aCty8O /sCpxKOAJmOLO7cpy6hx61iY1uEMUqvVowLQvFHRyhWLljhJeGFUZst6MABDYdVn XUC8m/6Rn9qq64GwZB8BKn6BZWf3oUHSv0gLvf6q2DG4V/njaP4il5U8BvdWs6Jr eU3LMdfBv0It9R+rvhDIsdKXR+Q2f1sdtdKITPfErZpEO41RqbPMNduM9Ne3y3dB ADB1mj6CClAqqOnovKVz =gusi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x8LT1kf0J6W3CumAFLhxjradEnIVf99bI-- From nobody Wed Jun 28 07:49:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D9F129B09 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WiqkwoTSyP-u for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EA49129AF1 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPUlV-1dLZS21zLF-004g5q; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:19 +0200 To: Henrik Levkowetz , "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <12f796de-3ad1-13fb-2dd9-9767256e7f7a@levkowetz.com> <92b71394-d030-cc1d-0a7d-85e750889e0f@gmx.de> <2ac550d6-6197-cbb5-aae9-db33405e9505@levkowetz.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <096ad14e-1179-f84d-320e-6176acc5fd3c@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:49:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ac550d6-6197-cbb5-aae9-db33405e9505@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XaYioHGXb7wPHesBzoVCjs8Lk9eP8b5Nt5dk7PNL4Nl05EODRqq 5fGgrgGxxW0P3Ur4r8o/tlgT99xadaBpQbqp+HVROrcQ8y7OQ5p+uXTgMRa+8/NFwsDBuG7 iqQNiHD/Zmuv838pqZq4Du6GHt2ZXX96uVhhts2PlHzLvjRDrrfWUjWzUCIxjj3emxhDCsh veRCifCMxTXDjhvLfmQEg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ue5WVj8qTkI=:7DaMp67zgyY7/AAb3rLqim kIlTlrj6cAScdcLiaMd6f/AqZe6vr29rsVuHzRXW8rbthHCLu8e0eCojNM+OrOu1Nv2dlSGPj j5hrCjmY2UZSnX+mfRknkKp3Bs5Aqa7AdDF4juoQMC+bwV4EpObgCj6OXa4KsR3iNTJ6NO86R wGEyKIY7+Toxanjo8w96XYroAJPyiY4ySw144Jvv+tevTgNAiyY/q/tvPliKNOGLCU57xgfc+ EEbKQVzxdjkzeKUko5xIB3I/Vb9eEFAmHj5DJzoVsbmf2jd2k+Ov5s92NvMk/9p4+v2Jbhi0M 5nfWpUzPdVnGVok7MOrtj+MG7HmHxxxuvxREAXAoe2oTbJ4icNIxfu6ZOIJdhR/1PjU51MchC KCsV/P/E6DIHESVEXVn5pKaKm71ump1qad5Y6EEOaVzpLA4gjJk4U+KKeYazQ21pmo7tKuMxk GQ64+VvFcGwawghOQeqJQE9qWhz4UPSH5n0croH0NxaWwP+F48X9KB/L1LdMahnXeWbVs5Gnr 9C20PW7qSCj5BYk1yafIWy6vgLIrtjy4W1DmJZnAggu0RbvRlfmbUsU/CbHKIoL7XC07PgOp3 03pqlTtMiTJYZzNAPqK+PcRI1gwNmTMrlCx69mdtCKTch51Xk+NTLOlehaJJZsYlzLl6Y6//i Rr0oxv4/3eab5Xy9q3cqiR2FuDQnoo7PJq/wWY31RNdDOiUGmlnBJxug9d1hMBJv93Lj8/sRP +yi2fksVu0X8OdqnZ1m7bn8H7hdQzgnOS+0+vG0X3OULe5YDmpI4TD9Ff4V5BksDbRRSHtmD5 L/XeU4Z Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] v3 Format tools discussion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:49:35 -0000 On 2017-06-28 16:23, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Julian > > On 2017-06-27 21:56, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 2017-06-27 20:27, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Heather, >>> >>> Thank you for this. I'm currently working on the v2v3 converter, and >>> I've just run into something I'd like to ask about. Will do so there :-) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Henrik >> >> FWIW, prep-xml2rfc.xslt attempts some v2->v3 conversion as well. It >> would be interesting to compare notes and test results... > > Indeed. I'll ping you when I think my version is feature complete (handles > all deprecations mentioned in the RFC in what I believe is the appropriate > way). ...for some parts that'll be tricky, such as table styles :-) Let me know when you want to try prep-xml2rfc and can't get it to run... Best regards, Julian