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#333: change to 'https' URLs in boilerplate text

 Please change 'http' to 'https' in boilerplate output as follows (for
 consistency with shift to 'https' URLs in references to RFCs):

 1) in Status of This Memo
 OLD:
    Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
    and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
    http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfcNNNN
 NEW:
    Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
    and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfcNNNN

 2) in Copyright Notice
 OLD:
    (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info)
 NEW:
    (https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info)

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#333: change to 'https' URLs in boilerplate text


Comment (by julian.reschke@gmx.de):

 Can we have a cutover date for this, so that old documents will be
 generated with the correct text as well?

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I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.

I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but 
don't believe so) and still get the error.

I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully 
complete.

So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate 
someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.

Bob


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﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE rfc SYSTEM "rfc2629.dtd" [
]>
<?xml-stylesheet type='text/xsl' href='rfc2629.xslt' ?>
<?rfc toc="yes" ?>
<?rfc symrefs="yes" ?>
<?rfc sortrefs="yes"?>
<?rfc compact="yes" ?>
<?rfc subcompact="no" ?>
<?rfc iprnotified="no" ?>
<?rfc strict="no" ?>
<rfc category="std" docName="-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00.txt"  ipr="trust200902">
 <front>
<title abbrev="ECC PKI Guide">Guide for building an ECC pki</title>
	<author fullname="Robert Moskowitz" initials="R." surname="Moskowitz" >
	<organization>Huawei</organization>
	<address>
	<postal> 
	  <street> </street>
	  <city>Oak Park</city>
	  <region>MI</region>
	  <code>48237</code> 
	</postal>
	<email>rgm@labs.htt-consult.com</email>
	</address>
	</author>
    <author initials="H." surname="Birkholz" fullname="Henk Birkholz">
      <organization abbrev="Fraunhofer SIT">Fraunhofer SIT</organization>
      <address>
        <postal>
          <street>Rheinstrasse 75</street>
          <city>Darmstadt</city>
          <code>64295</code>
          <country>Germany</country>
        </postal>
        <email>henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <author fullname="Liang Xia" initials="L." surname="Xia">
        <organization>Huawei</organization>
        <address>
        <postal>
        <street>No. 101, Software Avenue, Yuhuatai District</street>
        <city>Nanjing</city>
        <country>China</country>
        </postal>
        <phone></phone>
        <email>Frank.xialiang@huawei.com</email>
        </address>
    </author>
<date year="2017"/>
   <area>Security Area</area>
   <workgroup>LAMPS</workgroup>
    <keyword>RFC</keyword>
     <keyword>Request for Comments</keyword>
     <keyword>I-D</keyword>
     <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>

<abstract>
<t>
	This memo provides a guide for building a PKI (Public Key 
	Infrastructure) using openSSL.  All certificates in this guide are 
	ECDSA, P-256, with SHA256 certificates.  Along with common End 
	Entity certificates, this guide provides instructions for creating 
	Device certificates.
</t>
</abstract>
</front>
<middle>
<section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
<t>
	The IETF has a plethora of standards that depend on X.509 
	certificates and a PKI, going back decades.  Despite this long 
	history of specifying use of X.509 certificates, there has been no 
	easy way for developers and testers to create a working 'small' 
	pki.
</t>
<t>
	This effort provides the steps, using the openSSL application, to 
	create such a PKI of ECDSA certificates.  The goal is that any 
	developer or tester can follow these steps, create the basic 
	objects needed and establish the validity of the standard/program 
	design.  This guide can even be used to create a production PKi, 
	though additional steps need to be taken.  This could be very 
	useful to a small vendor needing to include 802.1AR iDevIDs in 
	their product.
</t>
<t>
	This guide was tested with openSSL 1.0.2k and creates PEM-based 
	certificates.  DER based certificates, at this time, fails.  Even 
	with openSSL 1.1.0f.  Also, at this time, CRL and OCSP support is 
	for future work.
</t>
</section>
<section anchor="terms" title="Terms and Definitions">
<section title="Requirements Terminology">
<t>
		The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL 
		NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and 
		"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described 
		in <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Notations">
 <t> This section will contain notations </t> 
</section> 
<section title="Definitions">
	<t>
		TBD
	</t>
</section> 
</section> 
<section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.  May be nothing for IANA.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Security Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
<section title="Acknowledgments">
	TBD
</section>
  
</middle>
<back>
<references title="Normative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2119.xml"?>
</references>
<references title="Informative References">
	TBD
</references>   
</back>
</rfc>

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And when I try the old converter at: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html

I get the error:

Unable to Validate File

xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML 
declaration

Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a draft 
that builds with no problems.

Bob

On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>
> I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but 
> don't believe so) and still get the error.
>
> I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully 
> complete.
>
> So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate 
> someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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    And when I try the old converter at:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html">http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html</a><br>
    <br>
    I get the error:<br>
    <br>
    Unable to Validate File<br>
    <br>
    xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML
    declaration<br>
    <br>
    Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a
    draft that builds with no problems.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert
      Moskowitz wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:d3b1bb3b-d366-53eb-837a-46dea9659e06@htt-consult.com">I
      am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
      <br>
      <br>
      I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem
      (but don't believe so) and still get the error.
      <br>
      <br>
      I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these
      successfully complete.
      <br>
      <br>
      So there is something here that I am just missing and would
      appreciate someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
      <br>
      <br>
      Bob
      <br>
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      <br>
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﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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]>
<?xml-stylesheet type='text/xsl' href='rfc2629.xslt' ?>
<?rfc toc="yes" ?>
<?rfc symrefs="yes" ?>
<?rfc sortrefs="yes"?>
<?rfc compact="yes" ?>
<?rfc subcompact="no" ?>
<?rfc iprnotified="no" ?>
<?rfc strict="no" ?>
<rfc category="std" docName="draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00.txt"  ipr="trust200902">
<front>
    <title abbrev="PKI Guide">Guide for building an ECC pki</title>
	<author fullname="Robert Moskowitz" initials="R." surname="Moskowitz" >
	<organization>Huawei</organization>
	<address>
	<postal> 
	  <street> </street>
	  <city>Oak Park</city>
	  <region>MI</region>
	  <code>48237</code> 
	</postal>
	<email>rgm@labs.htt-consult.com</email>
	</address>
	</author>
    <author fullname="Henk Birkholz" initials="H." surname="Birkholz">
      <organization>Fraunhofer SIT</organization>
      <address>
        <postal>
          <street>Rheinstrasse 75</street>
          <city>Darmstadt</city>
          <code>64295</code>
          <country>Germany</country>
        </postal>
        <email>henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <author fullname="Liang Xia" initials="L." surname="Xia">
        <organization>Huawei</organization>
        <address>
        <postal>
        <street>No. 101, Software Avenue, Yuhuatai District</street>
        <city>Nanjing</city>
        <country>China</country>
        </postal>
        <email>Frank.xialiang@huawei.com</email>
        </address>
    </author>
<date year="2017"/>
   <area>Security Area</area>
   <workgroup>LAMPS</workgroup>
    <keyword>RFC</keyword>
    <keyword>Request for Comments</keyword>
    <keyword>I-D</keyword>
    <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>

<abstract>
<t>
	This memo provides a guide for building a PKI (Public Key 
	Infrastructure) using openSSL.  All certificates in this guide are 
	ECDSA, P-256, with SHA256 certificates.  Along with common End 
	Entity certificates, this guide provides instructions for creating 
	Device certificates.
</t>
</abstract>
</front>
<middle>
<section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
<t>
	The IETF has a plethora of standards that depend on X.509 
	certificates and a PKI, going back decades.  Despite this long 
	history of specifying use of X.509 certificates, there has been no 
	easy way for developers and testers to create a working 'small' 
	pki.
</t>
<t>
	This effort provides the steps, using the openSSL application, to 
	create such a PKI of ECDSA certificates.  The goal is that any 
	developer or tester can follow these steps, create the basic 
	objects needed and establish the validity of the standard/program 
	design.  This guide can even be used to create a production PKi, 
	though additional steps need to be taken.  This could be very 
	useful to a small vendor needing to include 802.1AR iDevIDs in 
	their product.
</t>
<t>
	This guide was tested with openSSL 1.0.2k and creates PEM-based 
	certificates.  DER based certificates, at this time, fails.  Even 
	with openSSL 1.1.0f.  Also, at this time, CRL and OCSP support is 
	for future work.
</t>
</section>
<section anchor="terms" title="Terms and Definitions">
<section title="Requirements Terminology">
<t>
		The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL 
		NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and 
		"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described 
		in <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Notations">
<t>
	This section will contain notations 
</t> 
</section> 
<section title="Definitions">
<t>
	TBD
</t>
</section> 
</section> 
<section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.  May be nothing for IANA.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Security Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
<section title="Acknowledgments">
	TBD
</section>
  
</middle>
<back>
<references title="Normative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2119.xml"?>
</references>
<references title="Informative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2118.xml"?>
</references>   
</back>
</rfc>

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On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> A 500 error is odd. When I uploaded your xml file, I did not get any server errors. However, I did get the following error on your file:

And I do get error 500...

>
> ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
>   <string>: Line 123: Element section content does not follow the DTD, expecting ((t | figure | texttable | iref)* , section*), got (CDATA)
>   <string>: Line 132: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (CDATA)

The version I attached did have a problem there with the TBD line not in 
a text block.  I fixed that and still the problem.

>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 9:36 AM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Robert Moskowitz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>      
>      I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but
>      don't believe so) and still get the error.
>      
>      I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully
>      complete.
>      
>      So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate
>      someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>      
>      Bob
>      
>      
>


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]>
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<?rfc toc="yes" ?>
<?rfc symrefs="yes" ?>
<?rfc sortrefs="yes"?>
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<?rfc subcompact="no" ?>
<?rfc iprnotified="no" ?>
<?rfc strict="no" ?>
<rfc category="std" docName="draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00.txt"  ipr="trust200902">
<front>
    <title abbrev="PKI Guide">Guide for building an ECC pki</title>
	<author fullname="Robert Moskowitz" initials="R." surname="Moskowitz" >
	<organization>Huawei</organization>
	<address>
	<postal> 
	  <street> </street>
	  <city>Oak Park</city>
	  <region>MI</region>
	  <code>48237</code> 
	</postal>
	<email>rgm@labs.htt-consult.com</email>
	</address>
	</author>
    <author fullname="Henk Birkholz" initials="H." surname="Birkholz">
      <organization>Fraunhofer SIT</organization>
      <address>
        <postal>
          <street>Rheinstrasse 75</street>
          <city>Darmstadt</city>
          <code>64295</code>
          <country>Germany</country>
        </postal>
        <email>henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <author fullname="Liang Xia" initials="L." surname="Xia">
        <organization>Huawei</organization>
        <address>
        <postal>
        <street>No. 101, Software Avenue, Yuhuatai District</street>
        <city>Nanjing</city>
        <country>China</country>
        </postal>
        <email>Frank.xialiang@huawei.com</email>
        </address>
    </author>
<date year="2017"/>
   <area>Security Area</area>
   <workgroup>LAMPS</workgroup>
    <keyword>RFC</keyword>
    <keyword>Request for Comments</keyword>
    <keyword>I-D</keyword>
    <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>

<abstract>
<t>
	This memo provides a guide for building a PKI (Public Key 
	Infrastructure) using openSSL.  All certificates in this guide are 
	ECDSA, P-256, with SHA256 certificates.  Along with common End 
	Entity certificates, this guide provides instructions for creating 
	Device certificates.
</t>
</abstract>
</front>
<middle>
<section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
<t>
	The IETF has a plethora of standards that depend on X.509 
	certificates and a PKI, going back decades.  Despite this long 
	history of specifying use of X.509 certificates, there has been no 
	easy way for developers and testers to create a working 'small' 
	pki.
</t>
<t>
	This effort provides the steps, using the openSSL application, to 
	create such a PKI of ECDSA certificates.  The goal is that any 
	developer or tester can follow these steps, create the basic 
	objects needed and establish the validity of the standard/program 
	design.  This guide can even be used to create a production PKi, 
	though additional steps need to be taken.  This could be very 
	useful to a small vendor needing to include 802.1AR iDevIDs in 
	their product.
</t>
<t>
	This guide was tested with openSSL 1.0.2k and creates PEM-based 
	certificates.  DER based certificates, at this time, fails.  Even 
	with openSSL 1.1.0f.  Also, at this time, CRL and OCSP support is 
	for future work.
</t>
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<section anchor="terms" title="Terms and Definitions">
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<t>
		The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL 
		NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and 
		"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described 
		in <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Notations">
<t>
	This section will contain notations 
</t> 
</section> 
<section title="Definitions">
<t>
	TBD
</t>
</section> 
</section> 
<section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.  May be nothing for IANA.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Security Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
<section title="Acknowledgments">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
  
</middle>
<back>
<references title="Normative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2119.xml"?>
</references>
<references title="Informative References">
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	TBD.
</t> 
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On 08/24/2017 11:18 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 17:13, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> And this one has a BOM at the start, which shouldn’t be there own UTF-8.
>> I do not understand what you are referring to.
> Sorry, too much jargon.
>
> BOM is not about the text itself, but about a weird character coding artifact.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark
>
> Byte order mark
>  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> The byte order mark (BOM) is a Unicode character, U+FEFF  byte order mark (BOM), whose appearance as a magic number at the start of a text stream can signal several things to a program consuming the text:[1]
> 	• What byte order, or endianness, the text stream is stored in;
> 	• The fact that the text stream is Unicode, to a high level of confidence;
> 	• Which of several Unicode encodings that text stream is encoded as.
>
> Microsoft at some point decided that UTF-8 text files are so foreign they need to be adorned by BOMs.
> Apparently, you are using some software that follows this approach.
> Most tools (including kramdown-rfc) are now immune against BOM contamination, but not all are.

I am using Geany 1.31 in Fedora 24.  Been using it for a couple years.

I am narrowing this down.  I started over from an old xml that I tested 
that works.  I pared it down, made a few changes and it works.  I 
changed ONE keyword from SSLS to PKI and it fails.  See attached with 
the SSLS in.  I tried making the change in Geany and in Leafpad.  Can't 
see any special characters, but I get the failure with a keyword of PKI????

Maybe something even more.  I change the intro and it fails....

>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>> The first 11 lines? I have had those in for years.  I have xml drafts with exactly the same content that builds just fine.  Of course if I am behind the current best practice (nothing new there), please tell me what those lines should be.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>>
>>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 16:07, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And when I try the old converter at: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html
>>>>
>>>> I get the error:
>>>>
>>>> Unable to Validate File
>>>>
>>>> xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML declaration
>>>>
>>>> Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a draft that builds with no problems.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>>> I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but don't believe so) and still get the error.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
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﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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]>
<?xml-stylesheet type='text/xsl' href='rfc2629.xslt' ?>
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<rfc category="std" docName="draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00" ipr="trust200902">
 <front>
<title abbrev="PKI Guide">Guide for building an ECC pki</title>
	<author fullname="Robert Moskowitz" initials="R." surname="Moskowitz" >
	<organization>Huawei</organization>
	<address>
	<postal> 
	  <street> </street>
	  <city>Oak Park</city>
	  <region>MI</region>
	  <code>48237</code> 
	</postal>
	<email>rgm@labs.htt-consult.com</email>
	</address>
	</author>
    <author fullname="Liang Xia" initials="L." surname="Xia">
        <organization>Huawei</organization>
        <address>
        <postal>
        <street>No. 101, Software Avenue, Yuhuatai District</street>
        <city>Nanjing</city>
        <country>China</country>
        </postal>
        <phone></phone>
        <email>Frank.xialiang@huawei.com</email>
        </address>
    </author>
<date year="2017"/>
   <area>Security Area</area>
   <workgroup>LAMPS</workgroup>
    <keyword>RFC</keyword>
     <keyword>Request for Comments</keyword>
     <keyword>I-D</keyword>
     <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>
     <keyword>SSLS</keyword>
     <keyword>HIP</keyword>
     <keyword>SSE</keyword>
     <keyword>IOT</keyword>

<abstract>
<t>
	This memo provides a guide for building a PKI (Public Key 
	Infrastructure) using openSSL.  All certificates in this guide are 
	ECDSA, P-256, with SHA256 certificates.  Along with common End 
	Entity certificates, this guide provides instructions for creating 
	Device certificates.
</t>
</abstract>
</front>
<middle>
<section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
<t>
	The IETF has a plethora of security solutions targeted at IoT.  Yet 
	all too many IoT products are deployed with no or improperly 
	configured security.  In particular resource constrained IoT 
	devices and non-IP IoT networks have not been well served in the 
	IETF.
</t>
</section>
<section anchor="terms" title="Terms and Definitions">
<section title="Requirements Terminology">
<t>
		The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL 
		NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and 
		"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described 
		in <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Notations">
 <t> This section will contain notations </t> 
</section> 
<section title="Definitions">
	<t>
		TBD
	</t>
</section> 
</section> 
<section anchor="minimal" title="Minimal feature set">
<t>
	Minimal still implies something done.  In this case that something is:
</t>
<t>
	Minimal means the least amount of tools and one for each function, 
	with perhaps one for many functions.  Much of this is standard, but 
	later will be shown how to minimize its size and performance impact.
</t>
</section> 
<section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.  May be nothing for IANA.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Security Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
<section title="Acknowledgments">
<t>
	TBD
</t>
</section>
  
</middle>
<back>
<references title="Normative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2119.xml"?>
	<?rfc include="reference.I-D.hares-i2nsf-ssls.xml"?>
</references>
<references title="Informative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.7748.xml"?>
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Weird.  As I said, I started afresh, and have SOMETHING working, but I 
make a change and it fails.  For example I replace the text SSLS with 
PKI in a keyword block and it fails.  I replace the text block in the 
intro and it fails.

So it is either something wrong with my editors, or with my Firefox.  Is 
there some unix tool that will display special characters in a terminal 
window?  And my Firefox is a tad old at v54. (Fedora 24).

Doing some more digging....

Bob

On 08/24/2017 11:52 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> I’ve tried invoking xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org in a number of ways, with multiple browsers on my Mac, and cannot reproduce a 500 error.
>
>
> Still an error in your file:
>
> ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
>   <string>: Line 135: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (t)
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 11:23 AM, "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      
>      
>      On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
>      > A 500 error is odd. When I uploaded your xml file, I did not get any server errors. However, I did get the following error on your file:
>      
>      And I do get error 500...
>      
>      >
>      > ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
>      >   <string>: Line 123: Element section content does not follow the DTD, expecting ((t | figure | texttable | iref)* , section*), got (CDATA)
>      >   <string>: Line 132: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (CDATA)
>      
>      The version I attached did have a problem there with the TBD line not in
>      a text block.  I fixed that and still the problem.
>      
>      >
>      > 	Tony
>      >
>      > On 8/24/17, 9:36 AM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Robert Moskowitz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>      >
>      >      I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>      >
>      >      I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but
>      >      don't believe so) and still get the error.
>      >
>      >      I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully
>      >      complete.
>      >
>      >      So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate
>      >      someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>      >
>      >      Bob
>      
>


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Weird.

I can xml2rfc the file you attached.
It still has a BOM (Geany has an option =E2=80=9CDocument/Write Unicode =
BOM=E2=80=9D that you can switch off), but that should not be a problem =
here.
(I tried submitting the draft both with and without a BOM, and it does =
take the first hurdle.
Oops, I forgot to cancel the submission=E2=80=A6. Will try to do that =
now.)

Are you maybe in a less-than-pristine TLS environment?

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


> On Aug 24, 2017, at 17:52, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
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> On 08/24/2017 11:18 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 17:13, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>>> And this one has a BOM at the start, which shouldn=E2=80=99t be =
there own UTF-8.
>>> I do not understand what you are referring to.
>> Sorry, too much jargon.
>>=20
>> BOM is not about the text itself, but about a weird character coding =
artifact.
>>=20
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark
>>=20
>> Byte order mark
>> =46rom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>> The byte order mark (BOM) is a Unicode character, U+FEFF  byte order =
mark (BOM), whose appearance as a magic number at the start of a text =
stream can signal several things to a program consuming the text:[1]
>> 	=E2=80=A2 What byte order, or endianness, the text stream is =
stored in;
>> 	=E2=80=A2 The fact that the text stream is Unicode, to a high =
level of confidence;
>> 	=E2=80=A2 Which of several Unicode encodings that text stream is =
encoded as.
>>=20
>> Microsoft at some point decided that UTF-8 text files are so foreign =
they need to be adorned by BOMs.
>> Apparently, you are using some software that follows this approach.
>> Most tools (including kramdown-rfc) are now immune against BOM =
contamination, but not all are.
>=20
> I am using Geany 1.31 in Fedora 24.  Been using it for a couple years.
>=20
> I am narrowing this down.  I started over from an old xml that I =
tested that works.  I pared it down, made a few changes and it works.  I =
changed ONE keyword from SSLS to PKI and it fails. See attached with the =
SSLS in.  I tried making the change in Geany and in Leafpad.  Can't see =
any special characters, but I get the failure with a keyword of PKI????
>=20
> Maybe something even more.  I change the intro and it fails....
>=20
>>=20
>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>>=20
>>> The first 11 lines? I have had those in for years.  I have xml =
drafts with exactly the same content that builds just fine.  Of course =
if I am behind the current best practice (nothing new there), please =
tell me what those lines should be.
>>>=20
>>> Bob
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 16:07, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> And when I try the old converter at: =
http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I get the error:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Unable to Validate File
>>>>>=20
>>>>> xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML =
declaration
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a =
draft that builds with no problems.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>>>> I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem =
(but don't believe so) and still get the error.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these =
successfully complete.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> So there is something here that I am just missing and would =
appreciate someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> <draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-0-00.xml>


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I am using the v2 parser.  How do I get this out of the file?  I tried 
vi, but it does not show these bytes

I guess I want to convert the file to no BOM.  I found a check box in 
Geany for "Write Unicode BOM"

On 08/24/2017 12:06 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> Yeah, the file’s first few bytes are EF BB, which is a UTF-8 encoded FE FF Byte Order Mark.
>
> The OLD xml2rfc parser does not grok UTF-8 at all. The v2 parser is much more forgiving in that respect.
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 11:52 AM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Robert Moskowitz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      
>      
>      On 08/24/2017 11:18 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>      >> On Aug 24, 2017, at 17:13, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>      >>> And this one has a BOM at the start, which shouldn’t be there own UTF-8.
>      >> I do not understand what you are referring to.
>      > Sorry, too much jargon.
>      >
>      > BOM is not about the text itself, but about a weird character coding artifact.
>      >
>      > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Byte-5Forder-5Fmark&d=DwIDaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=Kz8VdgPVctDNSNPJ6PsBaw&m=ZbKcre0N9Go6c_WtHXn2109jTFcmbBqWReZF6EPJxpQ&s=nhqYSknoWYfFRVb1bvKliujraUh-y7Zmd4BYW1pvy1Q&e=
>      >
>      > Byte order mark
>      >  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>      > The byte order mark (BOM) is a Unicode character, U+FEFF  byte order mark (BOM), whose appearance as a magic number at the start of a text stream can signal several things to a program consuming the text:[1]
>      > 	• What byte order, or endianness, the text stream is stored in;
>      > 	• The fact that the text stream is Unicode, to a high level of confidence;
>      > 	• Which of several Unicode encodings that text stream is encoded as.
>      >
>      > Microsoft at some point decided that UTF-8 text files are so foreign they need to be adorned by BOMs.
>      > Apparently, you are using some software that follows this approach.
>      > Most tools (including kramdown-rfc) are now immune against BOM contamination, but not all are.
>      
>      I am using Geany 1.31 in Fedora 24.  Been using it for a couple years.
>      
>      I am narrowing this down.  I started over from an old xml that I tested
>      that works.  I pared it down, made a few changes and it works.  I
>      changed ONE keyword from SSLS to PKI and it fails.  See attached with
>      the SSLS in.  I tried making the change in Geany and in Leafpad.  Can't
>      see any special characters, but I get the failure with a keyword of PKI????
>      
>      Maybe something even more.  I change the intro and it fails....
>      
>      >
>      > Grüße, Carsten
>      >
>      >> The first 11 lines? I have had those in for years.  I have xml drafts with exactly the same content that builds just fine.  Of course if I am behind the current best practice (nothing new there), please tell me what those lines should be.
>      >>
>      >> Bob
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> Grüße, Carsten
>      >>>
>      >>>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 16:07, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>      >>>>
>      >>>> And when I try the old converter at: xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html
>      >>>>
>      >>>> I get the error:
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Unable to Validate File
>      >>>>
>      >>>> xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML declaration
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a draft that builds with no problems.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Bob
>      >>>>
>      >>>> On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >>>>> I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but don't believe so) and still get the error.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully complete.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> Bob
>   
>


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I turned off BOM in Geany and wrote out a version that works without 
BOM.  The dump shows:

$ iconv -f UTF-8 -t UTF-32BE draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-1-00.xml | 
hexdump | sed 3q
0000000 0000 3c00 0000 3f00 0000 7800 0000 6d00
0000010 0000 6c00 0000 2000 0000 7600 0000 6500
0000020 0000 7200 0000 7300 0000 6900 0000 6f00

And this fails with the server error using http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/

BTW, I have not used this tool since just before Prague.  It was not 
giving me any problems then.

Bob

On 08/24/2017 12:09 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> I use od, hexdump, and iconv as tools to help look at strange characters.
>
> For example, to verify that the characters at the beginning of that file were what I suspected they were, I did this:
>
> $ iconv -f UTF-8 -t UTF-32BE /tmp/draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00.xml | hexdump | sed 3q
> 0000000 00 00 fe ff 00 00 00 3c 00 00 00 3f 00 00 00 78
> 0000010 00 00 00 6d 00 00 00 6c 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 76
> 0000020 00 00 00 65 00 00 00 72 00 00 00 73 00 00 00 69
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 12:04 PM, "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      Weird.  As I said, I started afresh, and have SOMETHING working, but I
>      make a change and it fails.  For example I replace the text SSLS with
>      PKI in a keyword block and it fails.  I replace the text block in the
>      intro and it fails.
>      
>      So it is either something wrong with my editors, or with my Firefox.  Is
>      there some unix tool that will display special characters in a terminal
>      window?  And my Firefox is a tad old at v54. (Fedora 24).
>      
>      Doing some more digging....
>      
>      Bob
>      
>      On 08/24/2017 11:52 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
>      > I’ve tried invoking xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org in a number of ways, with multiple browsers on my Mac, and cannot reproduce a 500 error.
>      >
>      >
>      > Still an error in your file:
>      >
>      > ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
>      >   <string>: Line 135: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (t)
>      >
>      > 	Tony
>      >
>      > On 8/24/17, 11:23 AM, "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >      On 08/24/2017 10:10 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
>      >      > A 500 error is odd. When I uploaded your xml file, I did not get any server errors. However, I did get the following error on your file:
>      >
>      >      And I do get error 500...
>      >
>      >      >
>      >      > ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
>      >      >   <string>: Line 123: Element section content does not follow the DTD, expecting ((t | figure | texttable | iref)* , section*), got (CDATA)
>      >      >   <string>: Line 132: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (CDATA)
>      >
>      >      The version I attached did have a problem there with the TBD line not in
>      >      a text block.  I fixed that and still the problem.
>      >
>      >      >
>      >      > 	Tony
>      >      >
>      >      > On 8/24/17, 9:36 AM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Robert Moskowitz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >      I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>      >      >
>      >      >      I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but
>      >      >      don't believe so) and still get the error.
>      >      >
>      >      >      I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully
>      >      >      complete.
>      >      >
>      >      >      So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate
>      >      >      someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>      >      >
>      >      >      Bob
>      >
>      >
>      
>      
>


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With all the problems I am having with the online version, I decided to 
punt and actually install the local copy, but from back in June.

So I go to:

https://tools.ietf.org/tools/

And try going to:

https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/version2/gui.tgz

link not found.  OK....

I try

https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/

And see that only the cli is current.

I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file to.  
As if we are suppose to know...

So help would be appreciated.

Bob


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The short answer is

	pip install xml2rfc

Maybe we should make a go at cleaning up this forest of outdated =
misinformation...

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 19:12, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> With all the problems I am having with the online version, I decided =
to punt and actually install the local copy, but from back in June.
>=20
> So I go to:
>=20
> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/
>=20
> And try going to:
>=20
> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/version2/gui.tgz
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> link not found.  OK....
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> I try
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> And see that only the cli is current.
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> I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file =
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Hi Bob,

Sorry.  I'll update the tools pages to point at the current canonical
download page for xml2rfc, which is this:

  https://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc/

You should be able to install by using the standard python install tool,
'pip':

  $ sudo pip install xml2rfc


I hope that helps.


Best regards,

	Henrik

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> I try
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> I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file to.=
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Hi Carsten,

On 2017-08-24 19:40, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> The short answer is
>=20
> 	pip install xml2rfc
>=20
> Maybe we should make a go at cleaning up this forest of outdated misinf=
ormation...

Yes.  Doing that now.


Best regards,

	Henrik

> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>=20
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 19:12, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> With all the problems I am having with the online version, I decided t=
o punt and actually install the local copy, but from back in June.
>>=20
>> So I go to:
>>=20
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/
>>=20
>> And try going to:
>>=20
>> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/version2/gui.tgz
>>=20
>> link not found.  OK....
>>=20
>> I try
>>=20
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/
>>=20
>> And see that only the cli is current.
>>=20
>> I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file to=
=2E  As if we are suppose to know...
>>=20
>> So help would be appreciated.
>>=20
>> Bob
>>=20
>> _______________________________________________
>> xml2rfc mailing list
>> xml2rfc@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc
>>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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On 08/24/2017 01:40 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> The short answer is
>
> 	pip install xml2rfc

$ pip install xml2rfc
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): xml2rfc in 
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): lxml>=2.2.8 in 
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): 
requests>=2.5.0 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): 
urllib3==1.15.1 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from 
requests>=2.5.0->xml2rfc)
You are using pip version 8.0.2, however version 9.0.1 is available.
You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.

Do I run this as root?

> Maybe we should make a go at cleaning up this forest of outdated misinformation...

No maybe about it.
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 19:12, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>
>> With all the problems I am having with the online version, I decided to punt and actually install the local copy, but from back in June.
>>
>> So I go to:
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/
>>
>> And try going to:
>>
>> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/version2/gui.tgz
>>
>> link not found.  OK....
>>
>> I try
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/
>>
>> And see that only the cli is current.
>>
>> I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file to.  As if we are suppose to know...
>>
>> So help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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On Aug 24, 2017, at 20:06, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 08/24/2017 01:40 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> The short answer is
>>=20
>> 	pip install xml2rfc
>=20
> $ pip install xml2rfc
> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): xml2rfc in =
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): lxml>=3D2.2.8 =
in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): =
requests>=3D2.5.0 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): =
urllib3=3D=3D1.15.1 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from =
requests>=3D2.5.0->xml2rfc)
> You are using pip version 8.0.2, however version 9.0.1 is available.
> You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' =
command.
>=20
> Do I run this as root?

(Depends on operating system and method of Python installation.)
Probably, given the pathnames in the informational messages.

The interesting observation is that you were done before you started: =
xml2rfc (probably an older version) is already installed.

But maybe you want to upgrade:

> sudo pip install --upgrade pip
> sudo pip install =E2=80=94-upgrade xml2rfc

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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On 08/24/2017 02:15 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2017, at 20:06, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/24/2017 01:40 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> The short answer is
>>>
>>> 	pip install xml2rfc
>> $ pip install xml2rfc
>> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): xml2rfc in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
>> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): lxml>=2.2.8 in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
>> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): requests>=2.5.0 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
>> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): urllib3==1.15.1 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from requests>=2.5.0->xml2rfc)
>> You are using pip version 8.0.2, however version 9.0.1 is available.
>> You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
>>
>> Do I run this as root?
> (Depends on operating system and method of Python installation.)
> Probably, given the pathnames in the informational messages.
>
> The interesting observation is that you were done before you started: xml2rfc (probably an older version) is already installed.
>
> But maybe you want to upgrade:

Considering that I believe the current online version is broken????

I am working on a Fedora 26 system.  Brand new install on an ARM 
(Cubieboard2).  No floating around cruft.  Sometimes I can make and 
addition and it works, and sometimes not.  I have 2 authors in the 
stub.  I add the third author, there is nothing to note about the 
content of the block.  It fails.

I have an empty section.  I add one test block.  It fails.

So something is seriously wrong since I last used it during the pre-IETF 
crunch.

So now I have to figure out how to run the installed version...



>
>> sudo pip install --upgrade pip
>> sudo pip install —-upgrade xml2rfc
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>


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On 08/24/2017 01:54 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Sorry.  I'll update the tools pages to point at the current canonical
> download page for xml2rfc, which is this:
>
>    https://pypi.python.org/pypi/xml2rfc/
>
> You should be able to install by using the standard python install tool,
> 'pip':
>
>    $ sudo pip install xml2rfc

# pip install xml2rfc
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): xml2rfc in 
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): lxml>=2.2.8 in 
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): 
requests>=2.5.0 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from xml2rfc)
Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): 
urllib3==1.15.1 in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (from 
requests>=2.5.0->xml2rfc)
You are using pip version 8.0.2, however version 9.0.1 is available.
You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.

How do I get it to the version 2.6.1, I am assuming that was what was 
running online prior to IETF.

>
>
> I hope that helps.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> 	Henrik
>
>    
>
>
> On 2017-08-24 19:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> With all the problems I am having with the online version, I decided to
>> punt and actually install the local copy, but from back in June.
>>
>> So I go to:
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/
>>
>> And try going to:
>>
>> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/version2/gui.tgz
>>
>> link not found.  OK....
>>
>> I try
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc2/
>>
>> And see that only the cli is current.
>>
>> I see an INSTALL, but this does NOT tell me where to untar the file to.
>> As if we are suppose to know...
>>
>> So help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the 
installed v 2.5.2.

Until 2.5.2 fails me, I will stay with it.  I have no idea how I got 
this on my system.  Perhaps some python install I did....

Bob

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The xml is GONE!

Fortunately I can recreate it, but I do not see an option to prevent this?

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Hi Bob,

On 2017-08-24 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> The xml is GONE!
>=20
> Fortunately I can recreate it, but I do not see an option to prevent th=
is?

It should not, and I've never seen it do that.  I'm right now going
to verify that it doesn't even have any code to delete anything.


Best regards,

	Henrik


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On 2017-08-24 20:55, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>=20
> On 2017-08-24 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> The xml is GONE!
>>=20
>> Fortunately I can recreate it, but I do not see an option to prevent t=
his?
>=20
> It should not, and I've never seen it do that.  I'm right now going
> to verify that it doesn't even have any code to delete anything.

Nope, I find no file delete operations in the code.


	Henrik



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Hi Bob,

On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with th=
e=20
> installed v 2.5.2.

Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.


Best regards,

	Henrik



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On 08/24/2017 02:55 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> On 2017-08-24 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> The xml is GONE!
>>
>> Fortunately I can recreate it, but I do not see an option to prevent this?
> It should not, and I've never seen it do that.  I'm right now going
> to verify that it doesn't even have any code to delete anything.

I recreated the xml and ran again and this time it left it.

All I can figure out was the first time there was no txt, and it deleted 
the xml?

I am good for now.

Bob


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> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with =
the installed v 2.5.2.

(You sent the .txt, not the .xml, so I can=E2=80=99t check that.)

> Until 2.5.2 fails me, I will stay with it. =20

That was a stable version for a long time, its bugs are well known :-)

But there is little reason to believe the weird online behavior you (but =
none of Henrik, Tony, or me) are seeing transfers to the local version.

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On 08/24/2017 02:57 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> On 2017-08-24 20:55, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> On 2017-08-24 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> The xml is GONE!
>>>
>>> Fortunately I can recreate it, but I do not see an option to prevent this?
>> It should not, and I've never seen it do that.  I'm right now going
>> to verify that it doesn't even have any code to delete anything.
> Nope, I find no file delete operations in the code.

Always possible that I did it in a file browser window.

At this point I am so frustrated with things.  I have lost a day on 
this.  I am getting a bit sloppy at this point.

Taking a 30 in break.

Bob


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To: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>, xml2rfc@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org server error
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Hi Bob,

On 2017-08-24 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> And when I try the old converter at: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.=
html
>=20
> I get the error:
>=20
> Unable to Validate File
>=20
> xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML=20
> declaration
>=20
> Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a draft =

> that builds with no problems.

So with the old converter, the problem was the byte order mark (BOM).

With the new converter, the problem was that the xml file you attached
had text directly in a <section/> element:

  <section title=3D"Acknowledgments">
        TBD
  </section>

If I change that to:

  <section title=3D"Acknowledgments">
    <t>
        TBD
    </t>
  </section>

the file is processed to .txt by 2.7.0, which is the latest version.

It is possible that 2.7.0 is stricter than 2.5.2 in its validation, and
that's the reason why you succeed with 2.5.2 but fail with the latest.


Best regards,

	Henrik


>=20
> Bob
>=20
> On 08/24/2017 09:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> I am getting a Error 500 from submitting the attached xml.
>>
>> I have cut out just about all of my content that MAY be a problem (but=
=20
>> don't believe so) and still get the error.
>>
>> I have compared it to other xmls I have created and these successfully=
=20
>> complete.
>>
>> So there is something here that I am just missing and would appreciate=
=20
>> someone helping me find what the cgi does not like.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
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On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the
>> installed v 2.5.2.
> Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
> the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
> I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.

Now I am really upset.

I went back to  the old version and it works.

I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new 
system and it works.

Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum hat.

I can't afford time like this.  here is one that works.  Sometimes and 
sometimes not.



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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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]>
<?xml-stylesheet type='text/xsl' href='rfc2629.xslt' ?>
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 <?rfc sortrefs="yes"?> 
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<rfc category="std" docName="draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-00" ipr="trust200902">
 <front>
<title abbrev="PKI Guide">Guide for building an ECC pki</title>
	<author fullname="Robert Moskowitz" initials="R." surname="Moskowitz" >
	<organization>Huawei</organization>
	<address>
	<postal> 
	  <street> </street>
	  <city>Oak Park</city>
	  <region>MI</region>
	  <code>48237</code> 
	</postal>
	<email>rgm@labs.htt-consult.com</email>
	</address>
	</author>
    <author fullname="Liang Xia" initials="L." surname="Xia">
        <organization>Huawei</organization>
        <address>
        <postal>
        <street>No. 101, Software Avenue, Yuhuatai District</street>
        <city>Nanjing</city>
        <country>China</country>
        </postal>
        <phone></phone>
        <email>Frank.xialiang@huawei.com</email>
        </address>
    </author>
<date year="2017"/>
   <area>Security Area</area>
   <workgroup>LAMPS</workgroup>
    <keyword>RFC</keyword>
     <keyword>Request for Comments</keyword>
     <keyword>I-D</keyword>
     <keyword>Internet-Draft</keyword>
     <keyword>PKI</keyword>
     <keyword>ECDSA</keyword>
     <keyword>802.1AR</keyword>

<abstract>
<t>
	This memo provides a guide for building a PKI (Public Key 
	Infrastructure) using openSSL.  All certificates in this guide are 
	ECDSA, P-256, with SHA256 certificates.  Along with common End 
	Entity certificates, this guide provides instructions for creating 
	Device certificates.
</t>
</abstract>
</front>
<middle>
<section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
<t>
	The IETF has a plethora of security solutions targeted at IoT.  Yet 
	all too many IoT products are deployed with no or improperly 
	configured security.  In particular resource constrained IoT 
	devices and non-IP IoT networks have not been well served in the 
	IETF.
</t>
<t>
	This effort provides the steps, using the openSSL application, to 
	create such a PKI of ECDSA certificates.  The goal is that any 
	developer or tester can follow these steps, create the basic 
	objects needed and establish the validity of the standard/program 
	design.  This guide can even be used to create a production PKi, 
	though additional steps need to be taken.  This could be very 
	useful to a small vendor needing to include 802.1AR iDevIDs in 
	their product.
</t>
<t>
	This guide was tested with openSSL 1.0.2k and creates PEM-based 
	certificates.  DER based certificates, at this time, fails.  Even 
	with openSSL 1.1.0f.  Also, at this time, CRL and OCSP support is 
	for future work.
</t>
</section>
<section anchor="terms" title="Terms and Definitions">
<section title="Requirements Terminology">
<t>
		The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL 
		NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and 
		"OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described 
		in <xref target="RFC2119">RFC 2119</xref>.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Notations">
 <t> This section will contain notations </t> 
</section> 
<section title="Definitions">
	<t>
		TBD
	</t>
</section> 
</section> 
<section anchor="BasicPKI" title="The Basic PKI feature set">
<t>
	A basic pki has two levels of hierarchy, Root and Intermediate. The 
	Root level has the greatest risk, and is the least used.  It only 
	signs the Intermediate level signing certificate.  As such, once 
	the Root level is created and signs the Intermediate level 
	certificate it can be locked up.  In fact, the Root level could 
	exist completely on a mSD boot card for an ARM small computer like 
	a RaspberryPi.  A copy of this card came be made and securely 
	stored in a different location.
</t>
</section> 
<section anchor="IANA" title="IANA Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.  May be nothing for IANA.
</t>
</section>
<section title="Security Considerations">
<t>
	TBD.
</t> 
</section>
<section title="Acknowledgments">
<t>
	TBD
</t>
</section>
  
</middle>
<back>
<references title="Normative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.2119.xml"?>
	<?rfc include="reference.I-D.hares-i2nsf-ssls.xml"?>
</references>
<references title="Informative References">
	<?rfc include="reference.RFC.7748.xml"?>
</references>   
</back>
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On 08/24/2017 03:04 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> On 2017-08-24 16:07, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> And when I try the old converter at: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/old.html
>>
>> I get the error:
>>
>> Unable to Validate File
>>
>> xml2rfc: error: input file "INPUT.xml" does not begin with an XML
>> declaration
>>
>> Don't understand this error.  I copied the header section from a draft
>> that builds with no problems.
> So with the old converter, the problem was the byte order mark (BOM).
>
> With the new converter, the problem was that the xml file you attached
> had text directly in a <section/> element:
>
>    <section title="Acknowledgments">
>          TBD
>    </section>
>
> If I change that to:
>
>    <section title="Acknowledgments">
>      <t>
>          TBD
>      </t>
>    </section>
>
> the file is processed to .txt by 2.7.0, which is the latest version.
>
> It is possible that 2.7.0 is stricter than 2.5.2 in its validation, and
> that's the reason why you succeed with 2.5.2 but fail with the latest.

I fat fingered that edit, taking out what I had in the Ack to figure out 
why the server error.  Previously I had:

<t>
     This work was jump started by the excellent RSA pki guide by Jamie
     Nguyen.  The openssl-user mailing list, with its many supportive
     experts, was of immense help and the openssl man pages website.
     Finally, "Professor Google" was always ready to point to answers to
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     the Professor never seems to tire answering even trivial questions.
</t>

I just cut out too much to put in the TBD.  This text works...



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How do I include this IEEE reference?

http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml

<references title="Informative References">
         <?rfc include="reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"?>
</references>

produces:

  draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 246: Unable to resolve 
external request: "reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"



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Hi Bob,

On 2017-08-24 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>=20
>=20
> On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with =
the
>>> installed v 2.5.2.
>> Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
>> the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
>> I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.
>=20
> Now I am really upset.
>=20
> I went back to  the old version and it works.
>=20
> I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new=20
> system and it works.
>=20
> Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum ha=
t.
>=20
> I can't afford time like this.

I'm sorry that things haven't been smoother.  I'm still trying to work
out if there's something I need to fix, and if so what it is.

> here is one that works.  Sometimes and=20
> sometimes not.

Thank you.  This one works for me with version 2.7.0 locally and through
the web service.


Best regards,

	Henrik



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Hi Bob,

On 2017-08-24 21:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> How do I include this IEEE reference?
>=20
> http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR=
_2009.xml
>=20
> <references title=3D"Informative References">
>          <?rfc include=3D"reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"?>
> </references>
>=20
> produces:
>=20
>   draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 246: Unable to resolve=20
> external request: "reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"

This works for me:

At the top of  the document, update the doctype declaration:

  <!DOCTYPE rfc SYSTEM "rfc2629.dtd" [=20
    <!ENTITY ieee_802_1ar SYSTEM "https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/r=
fc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml">
  ]>


In the references section, refer to the new entity:

  <references title=3D"Informative References">
        <?rfc include=3D"reference.RFC.7748.xml"?>
        &ieee_802_1ar;
  </references>  =20


Best regards,

	Henrik


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On 08/24/2017 04:24 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> On 2017-08-24 21:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> How do I include this IEEE reference?
>>
>> http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml
>>
>> <references title="Informative References">
>>           <?rfc include="reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"?>
>> </references>
>>
>> produces:
>>
>>    draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 246: Unable to resolve
>> external request: "reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"
> This works for me:
>
> At the top of  the document, update the doctype declaration:
>
>    <!DOCTYPE rfc SYSTEM "rfc2629.dtd" [
>      <!ENTITY ieee_802_1ar SYSTEM "https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml">
>    ]>

Short form that we use for IETF stuff does not work for IEEE.  Ok.

>
>
> In the references section, refer to the new entity:
>
>    <references title="Informative References">
>          <?rfc include="reference.RFC.7748.xml"?>
>          &ieee_802_1ar;
>    </references>

I tried referencing this with:

         <xref target="ieee_802_1ar">IEEE 802.1AR</xref> iDevID Secure

But get an error

  draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 70: IDREF attribute target 
references an unknown ID "ieee_802_1ar"

thanks

Bob


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That is my firewall IP.

So it is probably my Firefox or my firewall NATing.  More likely Firefox.

On 08/24/2017 05:44 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> I spotted these in the error log on the xml2rfc server:
>
> [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/
> [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/
> [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/
> [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer: http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/
>
> I’m not sure if that’s you or not. (The timestamp is PDT, US/Pacific.)
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 4:09 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Henrik Levkowetz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>
>      Hi Bob,
>      
>      On 2017-08-24 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>      >> Hi Bob,
>      >>
>      >> On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >>> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the
>      >>> installed v 2.5.2.
>      >> Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
>      >> the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
>      >> I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.
>      >
>      > Now I am really upset.
>      >
>      > I went back to  the old version and it works.
>      >
>      > I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new
>      > system and it works.
>      >
>      > Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum hat.
>      >
>      > I can't afford time like this.
>      
>      I'm sorry that things haven't been smoother.  I'm still trying to work
>      out if there's something I need to fix, and if so what it is.
>      
>      > here is one that works.  Sometimes and
>      > sometimes not.
>      
>      Thank you.  This one works for me with version 2.7.0 locally and through
>      the web service.
>      
>      
>      Best regards,
>      
>      	Henrik
>      
>      
>      
>


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On 08/24/2017 04:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 08/24/2017 04:24 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> On 2017-08-24 21:52, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> How do I include this IEEE reference?
>>>
>>> http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml 
>>>
>>>
>>> <references title="Informative References">
>>>           <?rfc include="reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"?>
>>> </references>
>>>
>>> produces:
>>>
>>>    draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 246: Unable to resolve
>>> external request: "reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml"
>> This works for me:
>>
>> At the top of  the document, update the doctype declaration:
>>
>>    <!DOCTYPE rfc SYSTEM "rfc2629.dtd" [
>>      <!ENTITY ieee_802_1ar SYSTEM 
>> "https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1AR_2009.xml">
>>    ]>
>
> Short form that we use for IETF stuff does not work for IEEE.  Ok.
>
>>
>>
>> In the references section, refer to the new entity:
>>
>>    <references title="Informative References">
>>          <?rfc include="reference.RFC.7748.xml"?>
>>          &ieee_802_1ar;
>>    </references>
>
> I tried referencing this with:
>
>         <xref target="ieee_802_1ar">IEEE 802.1AR</xref> iDevID Secure
>
> But get an error
>
>  draft-moskowitz-ecdsa-pki-2-00.xml: Line 70: IDREF attribute target 
> references an unknown ID "ieee_802_1ar"

         <xref target="IEEE.802.1AR_2009">IEEE 802.1AR</xref> iDevID Secure

Does it.



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On Aug 25, 2017, at 06:06, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> wrote:
>=20
> Robert, can you re-run your test using =
http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html ?

To rule out the likely firewall mangling, an https:// URI is probably =
more useful.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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I had an eye appt this morning.  Still dilated a bit.  Hopefully soon I 
can set up a test.



On 08/25/2017 08:51 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> And running it both with http and https would provide even more information. :)
>
> On 8/25/17, 2:19 AM, "Carsten Bormann" <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>      On Aug 25, 2017, at 06:06, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> wrote:
>      >
>      > Robert, can you re-run your test using xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html
>      
>      To rule out the likely firewall mangling, an https:// URI is probably more useful.
>      
>      Grüße, Carsten
>      
>      
>


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Tony,

I just generated a server error message.

My first attempt worked.  Then I opened up a window to cnn.com which 
tends to bog down Firefox, and while cnn was loading, I tried xml2rfc 
again and it failed.

Bb

On 08/25/2017 12:06 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> Robert, can you re-run your test using http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html ?
>
> That’ll let me capture your exact inputs so I can see if the problem is on your side or mine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 5:59 PM, "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      That is my firewall IP.
>      
>      So it is probably my Firefox or my firewall NATing.  More likely Firefox.
>      
>      On 08/24/2017 05:44 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
>      > I spotted these in the error log on the xml2rfc server:
>      >
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer:
>      >
>      > I’m not sure if that’s you or not. (The timestamp is PDT, US/Pacific.)
>      >
>      > 	Tony
>      >
>      > On 8/24/17, 4:09 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Henrik Levkowetz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>      >
>      >      Hi Bob,
>      >
>      >      On 2017-08-24 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>      >      >> Hi Bob,
>      >      >>
>      >      >> On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >      >>> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the
>      >      >>> installed v 2.5.2.
>      >      >> Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
>      >      >> the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
>      >      >> I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.
>      >      >
>      >      > Now I am really upset.
>      >      >
>      >      > I went back to  the old version and it works.
>      >      >
>      >      > I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new
>      >      > system and it works.
>      >      >
>      >      > Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum hat.
>      >      >
>      >      > I can't afford time like this.
>      >
>      >      I'm sorry that things haven't been smoother.  I'm still trying to work
>      >      out if there's something I need to fix, and if so what it is.
>      >
>      >      > here is one that works.  Sometimes and
>      >      > sometimes not.
>      >
>      >      Thank you.  This one works for me with version 2.7.0 locally and through
>      >      the web service.
>      >
>      >
>      >      Best regards,
>      >
>      >      	Henrik
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      
>      
>


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Just tried https:// ...

and it did not like my file:

Resolving include... /home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2119.xml
Resolving include... /home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2118.xml
ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
  <string>: Line 135: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (t)
  <string>: Line 136: Element reference is not declared in t list of possible children

Using XML_LIBRARY=/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml4:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml5:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml8


Here is lines 135 - 138.

<references title="Informative References">
<t>
     <?rfc include="reference.RFC.2118.xml"?>
</t>


On 08/25/2017 12:06 AM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> Robert, can you re-run your test using http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html ?
>
> That’ll let me capture your exact inputs so I can see if the problem is on your side or mine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 	Tony
>
> On 8/24/17, 5:59 PM, "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
>      That is my firewall IP.
>      
>      So it is probably my Firefox or my firewall NATing.  More likely Firefox.
>      
>      On 08/24/2017 05:44 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
>      > I spotted these in the error log on the xml2rfc server:
>      >
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer:
>      > [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer:
>      >
>      > I’m not sure if that’s you or not. (The timestamp is PDT, US/Pacific.)
>      >
>      > 	Tony
>      >
>      > On 8/24/17, 4:09 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Henrik Levkowetz" <xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>      >
>      >      Hi Bob,
>      >
>      >      On 2017-08-24 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>      >      >> Hi Bob,
>      >      >>
>      >      >> On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>      >      >>> The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the
>      >      >>> installed v 2.5.2.
>      >      >> Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
>      >      >> the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
>      >      >> I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.
>      >      >
>      >      > Now I am really upset.
>      >      >
>      >      > I went back to  the old version and it works.
>      >      >
>      >      > I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new
>      >      > system and it works.
>      >      >
>      >      > Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum hat.
>      >      >
>      >      > I can't afford time like this.
>      >
>      >      I'm sorry that things haven't been smoother.  I'm still trying to work
>      >      out if there's something I need to fix, and if so what it is.
>      >
>      >      > here is one that works.  Sometimes and
>      >      > sometimes not.
>      >
>      >      Thank you.  This one works for me with version 2.7.0 locally and through
>      >      the web service.
>      >
>      >
>      >      Best regards,
>      >
>      >      	Henrik
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      
>      
>


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    Just tried <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://">https://</a> ...<br>
    <br>
    and it did not like my file:<br>
    <br>
    <pre class="error">Resolving include... /home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2119.xml
Resolving include... /home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.2118.xml
ERROR: Unable to validate the XML document: INPUT
 &lt;string&gt;: Line 135: Element references content does not follow the DTD, expecting (reference)+, got (t)
 &lt;string&gt;: Line 136: Element reference is not declared in t list of possible children
</pre>
    <pre>Using XML_LIBRARY=/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml4:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml5:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml8


</pre>
    Here is lines 135 - 138.<br>
    <br>
    &lt;references title="Informative References"&gt;<br>
    &lt;t&gt;<br>
        &lt;?rfc include="reference.RFC.2118.xml"?&gt;<br>
    &lt;/t&gt; <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/25/2017 12:06 AM, HANSEN, TONY L
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:7677A789-4CF7-4FE1-BE1E-A4D23BA2844E@att.com">
      <pre wrap="">Robert, can you re-run your test using <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html">http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/index-tee.html</a> ?

That’ll let me capture your exact inputs so I can see if the problem is on your side or mine.

Thanks!

	Tony

On 8/24/17, 5:59 PM, "Robert Moskowitz" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com">&lt;rgm@htt-consult.com&gt;</a> wrote:

    That is my firewall IP.
    
    So it is probably my Firefox or my firewall NATing.  More likely Firefox.
    
    On 08/24/2017 05:44 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
    &gt; I spotted these in the error log on the xml2rfc server:
    &gt;
    &gt; [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer: 
    &gt; [Thu Aug 24 09:10:07 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer: 
    &gt; [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Malformed multipart POST, referer: 
    &gt; [Thu Aug 24 09:11:25 2017] [error] [client 50.253.254.14] Premature end of script headers: xml2rfc.cgi, referer: 
    &gt;
    &gt; I’m not sure if that’s you or not. (The timestamp is PDT, US/Pacific.)
    &gt;
    &gt; 	Tony
    &gt;
    &gt; On 8/24/17, 4:09 PM, "xml2rfc on behalf of Henrik Levkowetz" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.orgonbehalfofhenrik@levkowetz.com">&lt;xml2rfc-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of henrik@levkowetz.com&gt;</a> wrote:
    &gt;
    &gt;      Hi Bob,
    &gt;      
    &gt;      On 2017-08-24 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; On 08/24/2017 03:00 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
    &gt;      &gt;&gt; Hi Bob,
    &gt;      &gt;&gt;
    &gt;      &gt;&gt; On 2017-08-24 20:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
    &gt;      &gt;&gt;&gt; The attached fails online.  But builds just nicely on my system with the
    &gt;      &gt;&gt;&gt; installed v 2.5.2.
    &gt;      &gt;&gt; Unfortunately, you attached the .txt version, not the .xml version of
    &gt;      &gt;&gt; the -2-00 file, so I can't test it here.  If you have recreated it,
    &gt;      &gt;&gt; I'd like to test it with the latest xml2rfc to see what's up.
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; Now I am really upset.
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; I went back to  the old version and it works.
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; I did it on the new F26 system and it failed.  I moved it to the new
    &gt;      &gt; system and it works.
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; Something somewhere is really after me.  I better put on my aluminum hat.
    &gt;      &gt;
    &gt;      &gt; I can't afford time like this.
    &gt;      
    &gt;      I'm sorry that things haven't been smoother.  I'm still trying to work
    &gt;      out if there's something I need to fix, and if so what it is.
    &gt;      
    &gt;      &gt; here is one that works.  Sometimes and
    &gt;      &gt; sometimes not.
    &gt;      
    &gt;      Thank you.  This one works for me with version 2.7.0 locally and through
    &gt;      the web service.
    &gt;      
    &gt;      
    &gt;      Best regards,
    &gt;      
    &gt;      	Henrik
    &gt;      
    &gt;      
    &gt;      
    &gt;
    
    

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On Aug 25, 2017, at 21:34, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>=20
> Here is lines 135 - 138.
>=20
> <references title=3D"Informative References">
> <t>
>     <?rfc include=3D"reference.RFC.2118.xml"?>
> </t>

RFC 7749 says:

   references =3D
     element references {
       [ a:defaultValue =3D "References" ] attribute title { text }?,
       reference+
     }

   reference =3D
     element reference {
[=E2=80=A6]

So you need to take out the <t> and </t> tags.
Maybe you want to try xmllint to check your XML.
(Or switch to kramdown-rfc =E2=80=94 that is more likely to generate =
valid XML.)

Your previous experiment likely showed that something is broken with =
your TCP (client and/or middleboxes) and/or browser.
Using tools such as tcpdump and tcpflow, that could be debugged (not =
that I=E2=80=99m asking you to do that).

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#334: Non-contiguous URL numbers in text format

 The attached XML (generated via `kramdown-rfc2629` from the attached
 markdown) produces URLs `[1]` and `[3]`, but not `[2]`. The three links
 are:

 {{{
 <t><eref target="https://example.com/link1">Link 1</eref></t>
 <t><eref
 target="https://example.com/link2">https://example.com/link2</eref></t>
 <t><eref target="mailto:link2@example.com">link2@example.com</eref></t>
 }}}

 And from that `xml2rfc test.xml` (version 2.6.1 and online) generates the
 following text:

 {{{
 1.  Introduction

    Link 1 [1]

    https://example.com/link2

    link2@example.com [3]

 2.  References

 2.1.  URIs

    [1] https://example.com/link1

    [3] mailto:link2@example.com
 }}}

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#335: Mismatched URL references

 The XML source:
 {{{
 ...
     <note title="Note to Readers">
 <t>The source code and issues list for this draft can be found
 in <eref
 target="https://github.com/org/repo">https://github.com/org/repo</eref>.</t>
     </note>
   </front>
   <middle>
 <section anchor="introduction" title="Introduction">
 <t><eref
 target="https://this.is.2.in/the/body/but/1/in/the/refs/">Misnumbered</eref></t>
 ...
 }}}

 Produces:

 {{{
 1.  Introduction

    Misnumbered [2]

 2.  References

 2.1.  URIs

    [1] https://this.is.2.in/the/body/but/1/in/the/refs/
 }}}

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#336: Website should say to report issues to this Trac

 https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/experimental.html says to:

 * <Report issues with the V2→V3 conversion to the xml2rfc-dev mailing
 list.>
 * <Report other XML2RFC issues to the rfc-interest mailing list.>
 * <Report website issues [to tony@att].>

 At least the XML2RFC issues should link to
 https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ instead.

 https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ says to:

 * Report issues [to tony@att].
 * If you find errors, please report them in the trac system. [Finally a
 correct one!]

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