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charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] extra blank like, no charge X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:43:15 -0000 i want a compact list. i have compact=yes and subcompact=yes I do not want the blank line after this one o Before this list item o I like the lack of blank above this which is produced by I do not want the blank line after this one Before this list item I like the lack of blank above this clue bat please. randy From nobody Mon Mar 5 04:01:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C6812D7E6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:01:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xlTvAYbgG7GY for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C76812D778 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MCtLD-1f1rLu3pIJ-009eNt; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:01:45 +0100 To: Randy Bush , XML2RFC Interest Group References: From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <26f53db8-795a-a615-2582-c41e0d803355@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:01:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Y7/WQ2Xg+uddBMmkIGpsn8hF5wQEeSwbxBekGYN/t6zTVTrwDdt ucn8xspyODvU5Dsg7o75bGQhpOrBNaEoTMUbpidSn4PWsdVH8+NmbRSHzr5G9Y/klDt7D1g //wLTBLVte38JTZy15V+ET42RZU6x2zqV22WNcM3VQZUe9RUm5aaK/JdPgjyNbXYm4QunES 2nbVF0OA4bY8UeNbVPAJg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mKHa2KeOy7E=:7H4sqHhAc5FoxDJhC/4lXc MTSwniM2Ougf/+wGDG+eNJSjjVfCpPMc4zYCLuRjJRLZEcrKViJ4uvZ3t2teURBAiij8fzrMJ eGPrxLTjg4mbmhnm4S/NQBfAxU0W4CttLVOwMJbOBXetafxQMxZ6gUz0HLxUc66XVsG4LigM1 OtkPZYVDBgv6vHjTIVSg+YxT+bfEu0EcGwuB7WMZ/t+FvmMP3z3OzS8EAMQ5bX7bnzvDo+GER B3ixeoN4r3rMBlqQzt09kvhBWcUQ6Vxuh29ym0XUEqFCe5k4YK6a8JU5DTHMlKPHrMyPv3BX4 O9ssCPjwHeuiZU0lGnXgRixY4y9GmVd7MBInFeJ4uwn2kNjDtC2Vs1B7Gx9rbQ4tQraixmCbu 0KUctRuqvp0oJJBrEeU9PBEMJ0QdAkDOhZpmznGp5Adi3y1rvMviLvLRVjjmmStj0ZHgzqrb9 4mfd2g6RsyCnOjeP6lFocuPGUlQC+sXs+Al4Ntn6r/oYFHTwrY/Gty0rmuPcmIYb+vs9DecwT OgVAtFJeY+aiV7a5bPQpPiOVS79J3Ng+pLF1M/AxdjMC/vNio7oUFDtSrLgqlGjJjCKbzbPuk dnzmNwTRuDeHASkSFd6N6CJX6/TWa4TowHGVQ0RTivsWKkT0ndrDRhxTc1bZAYom6L0CQQsJd 1KIRPrkrElzLCZKKPIpZs57tDQaBG9yAtzpY//pTJFvc7h1HBdafIoB2biAWggkfhLqgHJ1+e FRvW45zg96ciNHxrGps9NxCwRGrzPJ/hk2IIkYQjXKf7m4qrmfET6/E5mg7ZWHAgUpqRp3ACT Vgi/phlxG4rc3Ydz0n6jaMRKNR/N/aGdVVJasQz9U36YdShDis= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] extra blank like, no charge X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:01:52 -0000 On 2018-03-05 12:43, Randy Bush wrote: > i want a compact list. i have compact=yes and subcompact=yes > > I do not want the blank line after this one > > o Before this list item > o I like the lack of blank above this > > which is produced by > > I do not want the blank line after this one > Before this list item > I like the lack of blank above this > > > clue bat please. > ... FWIW, in V3 a list is (will be) a block level element, so even if you can get the current processor to do this, this is unlikely to be supported (in RFCs) in one year from now. Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Mar 5 04:26:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EDC1241F8 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rV-MZrTI-Odg for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20ADE120713 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1espCd-0005Zx-Iz; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:26:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 21:26:49 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Julian Reschke Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group In-Reply-To: <26f53db8-795a-a615-2582-c41e0d803355@gmx.de> References: <26f53db8-795a-a615-2582-c41e0d803355@gmx.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/25.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] extra blank like, no charge X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:26:55 -0000 >> i want a compact list. i have compact=yes and subcompact=yes >> >> I do not want the blank line after this one >> >> o Before this list item >> o I like the lack of blank above this >> >> which is produced by >> >> I do not want the blank line after this one >> Before this list item >> I like the lack of blank above this >> >> >> clue bat please. >> ... > > FWIW, in V3 a list is (will be) a block level element, so even if you > can get the current processor to do this, this is unlikely to be > supported (in RFCs) in one year from now. and this is a good thing? randy From nobody Mon Mar 5 04:40:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DBD12D7E2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:40:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fvtM7XGdgrpk for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F13612D778 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MN748-1emCeH0BvU-006c9I; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:40:41 +0100 To: Randy Bush Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group References: <26f53db8-795a-a615-2582-c41e0d803355@gmx.de> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:40:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:q8Zras9+WYBPef/JmJdo/jU1JlUEqARPKHbUj8NKw74XTB1/aa1 73YrTynihV9DhEoDZe07eVymE5pTZVypPZOb5Qd612QsJB6Ks1j9Wl5BLCwfe+4mJSe3dpx xKg+fmq+A7E91AaHwry7KlE/lC6/IuvQPKfVa3OyEV2kA022S3LJ3l8NapZ9dK251Phrbke PGH8AXbQSX8NQJ/Iwuy4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KnwjuQ6qyJ0=:dQdrIVYx1CKdShlqa6dc1o aiAPDg76Bcsa1FmFHQ+oSz5XULZ9OxP49TpK0kjTorIXUVld/3PlNhhUe8ha1qQK0rr8b5O+M hT6mfbtd/8hbOBXlWLh4v5sJHQhrV/0xQVQRJyZHqY0dQlOJWGDaj9SAxD0NZVlhYSOx1k4Jy fv4kRNeoFxVY0VRQXypQd+dcoAcTpgSbhrtk6+cpUMhebXGaYavhXGJ/MMUJHkj0jGqcyiMFy 7t1a9FC43U5xu/0wupjILnn6cUr7tkH7gq3Qa161V/gpdJWlLNQhv/l+fqeguBeLDKG1L7y6s 6QR/g56QDGtbhUojvUxi3X3lyPNKQsGSsk1NP7w6XT2GjfsBHudhdbOJS304gxiSGB5cHVs8h TtxYlu7xEASSFGv3Ab5YTYeC3G1QNN13i2EA+r2jT75XDsOEO0SJwrVK6y7ekln0Q9SgTZZ8R Bg/IdmtiPVuz7EDXmU3aJttwj9SEFOf6NfsD5sbsSgnJuSRwwgnvhqzcFoA81h3yk5GEox1Fu cAFM+Ul8L3JhsXwIGAMoRRorQSkhCf/QfVRR4iJi6oR9ghxtMDEjOEDZgtHAeFzR+/NyRve0z CMGYNrFZ6jSqn6itcUbr0qWiRC665AFF7w8UkYTkdNmGJMNeL9LR2kstbtT24vgJjCi1nFASV H+ykbPUlbVkHEuM22Olz8uuy6UZE2Kz65W8KwDQ7Cfz33OM35XieiFjlGt8Oynkr/ruX6Sf6Q d0xABsm+ZSwO9EzFpWJJAgm//bg0/E2ygyWgiT/H069/1asxVvs5xiiNzy93AZGaJYBDLrDjw pSBkrjs3FjE+lpNk6T0RzNvpLJlNQyVHCxQjNXA3IIde0zRaeQ= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] extra blank like, no charge X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:40:47 -0000 On 2018-03-05 13:26, Randy Bush wrote: >>> i want a compact list. i have compact=yes and subcompact=yes >>> >>> I do not want the blank line after this one >>> >>> o Before this list item >>> o I like the lack of blank above this >>> >>> which is produced by >>> >>> I do not want the blank line after this one >>> Before this list item >>> I like the lack of blank above this >>> >>> >>> clue bat please. >>> ... >> >> FWIW, in V3 a list is (will be) a block level element, so even if you >> can get the current processor to do this, this is unlikely to be >> supported (in RFCs) in one year from now. > > and this is a good thing? Yes. Stop worrying about vertical white space. Best regards, Julian (ducks) From nobody Mon Mar 5 04:54:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA1E12DA02 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:54:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ICTQWByIsmef for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FD6712D94C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 04:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1espd6-0005gt-Sj; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:54:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 21:54:11 +0900 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Julian Reschke Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group In-Reply-To: References: <26f53db8-795a-a615-2582-c41e0d803355@gmx.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/25.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] extra blank like, no charge X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:54:17 -0000 i get it. who gives a damn how their document looke randy >>>> i want a compact list. i have compact=yes and subcompact=yes >>>> >>>> I do not want the blank line after this one >>>> >>>> o Before this list item >>>> o I like the lack of blank above this >>>> >>>> which is produced by >>>> >>>> I do not want the blank line after this one >>>> Before this list item >>>> I like the lack of blank above this >>>> >>>> >>>> clue bat please. >>>> ... >>> >>> FWIW, in V3 a list is (will be) a block level element, so even if you >>> can get the current processor to do this, this is unlikely to be >>> supported (in RFCs) in one year from now. >> >> and this is a good thing? > > Yes. Stop > worrying > about > vertical > white > space. > > Best > regards, > Julian > (ducks)