From nobody Thu Apr 4 03:55:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DE112001E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:55:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BY-TSUee1XMK for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06CC212000E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47532 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hC01a-0005z1-OX; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 03:55:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 10:55:14 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/400 Message-ID: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 400 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 10:55:17 -0000 #400: ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file I am attempting to move to v3 with svg and ascii art diagrams. My workflow has the ascii diagrams in seperate files and I use a tool (github.com/blampe/goat) to render svg from this. This works well, however I am unable to src txt files in an artset block. i.e. renders correctly, but The command $ xml2rfc --v3 --html --text draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml complains with draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml(923): Error: Expected ascii-art text, but found none. $ xml2rfc --version xml2rfc 2.22.2 -- --------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.20.* Keywords: | --------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 4 05:25:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D081200EB for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 05:25:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vl_MFwB08Mi5 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9439812004E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:49876 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hC1RI-0006UO-3M; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 05:25:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 12:25:52 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/400#comment:1 Message-ID: <081.3ac9767810d1e3e89cab404f43dcbea2@tools.ietf.org> References: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 400 In-Reply-To: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 12:25:55 -0000 #400: ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file Comment (by henrik@levkowetz.com): Hi Tom A trivial attempt to duplicate this here fails; i.e., external source file content is included in the text output from the ascii-art block in artset, and the external content from the svg is included for the html output. Could you provide the xml file and external files which result in failure as attachments to this ticket? Maybe as a .tgz or .zip file, to preserve directory structure? Henrik -- ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.20.* Resolution: | Keywords: ---------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 4 06:56:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA38B120681 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:56:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQvBuEV_-Vaw for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE22012067F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jude (73.180.8.170) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:56:22 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: , CC: References: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 06:56:19 -0700 Message-ID: <005c01d4eaee$2fcc4820$8f64d860$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJDqApzjMyybbjcokx9pHadrfoXd6VOjCtw X-Originating-IP: [73.180.8.170] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 13:56:29 -0000 Is the issue that that you misspelt ascii-art as the type? > -----Original Message----- > From: xml2rfc On Behalf Of xml2rfc issue > tracker > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 3:55 AM > To: henrik@levkowetz.com; tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk > Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org > Subject: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be > sourced from a file > > #400: ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file > > I am attempting to move to v3 with svg and ascii art diagrams. My workflow > has the ascii diagrams in seperate files and I use a tool > (github.com/blampe/goat) to render svg from this. This works well, > however I am unable to src txt files in an artset block. > > i.e. > > > > renders correctly, but > > > > > > The command > $ xml2rfc --v3 --html --text draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml > complains with > draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml(923): Error: Expected ascii-art text, > but found none. > > $ xml2rfc --version > xml2rfc 2.22.2 > > -- > --------------------------------+---------------------------------- > Reporter: tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com > Type: defect | Status: new > Priority: medium | Milestone: > Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.20.* > Keywords: | > --------------------------------+---------------------------------- > > Ticket URL: > xml2rfc > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 4 07:21:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914BE1205CB for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 07:21:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fElT1ilwp9UY for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 07:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk (pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:42:150::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFCA12002F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 07:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com (auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.228]) by pegasus.erg.abdn.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E94BF1B002B3; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 15:21:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97ACE23331; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 10:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2019 10:21:27 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrtdehgdejfeculddtuddrgedutddrtddtmd cutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdp uffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvf fukfhfgggtuggjfgesthdtredttdervdenucfhrhhomhepvfhomhculfhonhgvshcuoeht ohhmsegvrhhgrdgrsggunhdrrggtrdhukheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehgihhthhhusgdrtg homhenucfkphepudefjedrhedtrddujedruddvnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhm pehsohhmvgdomhgvshhmthhprghuthhhphgvrhhsohhnrghlihhthidqgeehgeehtdduje dtqdduheehgedvgeehkedqthhomheppegvrhhgrdgrsggunhdrrggtrdhukhesfhgrshht mhgrihhlrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy:

Received: from tom-desk.erg.abdn.ac.uk (tom-desk.erg.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.17.12]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CC76310393; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 10:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 15:23:44 +0100 From: Tom Jones To: Jim Schaad Cc: henrik@levkowetz.com, xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-ID: <20190404142343.GA2404@tom-desk.erg.abdn.ac.uk> References: <066.1326bc5f5aeb4fa510a71ad8f0d280ba@tools.ietf.org> <005c01d4eaee$2fcc4820$8f64d860$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005c01d4eaee$2fcc4820$8f64d860$@augustcellars.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:21:36 -0000 On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:56:19AM -0700, Jim Schaad wrote: > Is the issue that that you misspelt ascii-art as the type? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: xml2rfc On Behalf Of xml2rfc issue > > tracker > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 3:55 AM > > To: henrik@levkowetz.com; tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk > > Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org > > Subject: [xml2rfc] #400 (Version 2 cli): ascii artwork inside an artset > cannot be > > sourced from a file > > > > #400: ascii artwork inside an artset cannot be sourced from a file > > > > I am attempting to move to v3 with svg and ascii art diagrams. My > workflow > > has the ascii diagrams in seperate files and I use a tool > > (github.com/blampe/goat) to render svg from this. This works well, > > however I am unable to src txt files in an artset block. > > > > i.e. > > > > > > > > renders correctly, but > > > > > > > > > > > > The command > > $ xml2rfc --v3 --html --text draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml > > complains with > > draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud.xml(923): Error: Expected ascii-art > text, > > but found none. > > > > $ xml2rfc --version > > xml2rfc 2.22.2 > > It would be, sorry for the noise - [tj] From nobody Sun Apr 7 13:24:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F2812007C for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:24:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=earthlink.net; domainkeys=pass (2048-bit key) header.from=charles.perkins@earthlink.net header.d=earthlink.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wff8f-wBEe7N for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBE0F12007A for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1554668672; bh=ebweguqEEtZqzfQ2JjQDrIfikdDFpX8LOsnm EVHf7SM=; h=Received:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; b=nJd8CdrVmMCOPr5m V/cc3DdHVofIcBuo7R1hXk+VvP1leW6Jt4SThc3i+ho3PIwaWW5wkkQ5chieFXqwWwq EYiZTK8HUq+QjpY6q8FFpFMU1S2r2fJPNfcy/TrShR0b9WL+f4ItTQif4d59xNuDPld wT+uKg9ChhuJcU4i3RPpJ0SeScpoAH8PSG+vnKyngmtchyN4wD3Szv5MczarRMez6JZ 3ZTmwqusWoTQBdTO6RswExnqYcxul2LagDGG1LIdgJumIcxsBjYOweOaulFHyrZxk2T R7fPd/ykkJARlOCIRKdLYMCszWGy+usPrkFcdyMIpqrJJzDiXNCF/Tmzwg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=ZUgeRwu9+U4P1+eYGG7YXE3BrLbF+7tyjfXwZQrVpIJeNw5sLY96gZxmvzuXRxizvswIQfb8kRpwUzyp48S8UkYoOMvsv700m1X1m8rVPivfMEqZATU40v9hkjhh0axemhRi4qynhW22us0MSftge5Y9ZIAmtufqoOmhyPhpWzpNdZwQJnWOvwYN3Mrnuj8h8phRGLEj3WJuQjFzataN96YGHVMutwUgQs5eCC1jfkHzcY44Vg7Ft8UZvH2n4EyMuB1TZBIFG6jHcc0wvskogIzKPWrtlerfkq+oJtHJ6ko6ntT9fwfuVk1kN/OC7ZfbqnSQzfhkL2SJs0ohqwO6HA==; h=Received:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.51.72.196] (helo=[192.168.1.82]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1hDEL9-00084E-Pw for xml2rfc@ietf.org; Sun, 07 Apr 2019 16:24:31 -0400 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org From: Charlie Perkins Message-ID: <839e1f64-0e2a-b50b-5d14-c992f1de6597@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:24:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956846b590522b13c9568e8efe696aa4f25d3aee8d0b14b6911350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.51.72.196 Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Change in the results of using the "author" tag X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2019 20:24:34 -0000 Hello folks, My file contains the following source lines of .xml: > > "IEEE 802 Wireless" The citation has not changed in a good while, but I noticed the following change in the output from November to March: > [ietf_802-11] > "Dorothy Stanley", "IEEE 802.11 multicast capabilities", > Nov 2015. versus > [ietf_802-11] > "IEEE 802 Wireless", "IEEE 802.11 multicast capabilities", > Nov 2015. I prefer that the bibliographic citation show Dorothy Stanley as author, not IEEE 802 Wireless. Is this still possible? Or, if not, what is the correct way to express the authorship to get the desired result? Thanks in advance for your consideration of my request. Regards, Charlie P. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:phfJcq8922O1boHAEumA4DR00JYP6Y/bt6b+5wVVGK26C3vRItH x1CJIVX9U6DlYUBl/jHP6n26BziV5sua04YMgHWuKLIodzi/C1ScgDqLzyF8AAm0TkdvH4Y iAg1aekjCT1bZc/7cksWIGmYajq1k0iu6sUYENbmjcQ1SEaBMZcuYgXUAqtBH9Yipj1Y+P4 N4i7c78YvTGlCZRTTE5gQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lS5vNczf2jE=:Li6fgAcu0bXYbIvxctqc3s ToIC1Fdmh5auBl8BlbdDvnlcZqG+wNjdpcw2UMZ1B1Cxh4wsP7FGQBm2oFIxjLslyC2CLTLKR N59saL/NDUQtiYa2M5mB0XRRPjbIcD83GXoRsMaKXCdCWGnrPnTF8I7mqSmQBhF521zCshktN ao2OQwJTPbFtxkslNQwx9mjY9ck60D1nuPubMHZKWxg6uvh0RKxNoZOQa3Q7Bw82a1yLAHoE7 ipepUqRmH24L2zDXeSayOiaOKmwGX2YyQpB5kSn/rfijze/vkFECcIJXZ5ZmF480BBbJ7UD5T t6/o6PeSNldhcAIi0YFpaqzsFKC70RLyvr80+b8Oq9DpRLxSHKl9ozNmq3WlsR8Bss+NLWt/F SWbK4WKr0eOkOVCOc4LX6OoWiMrZikvPO4uWmu9Z0UoAizOreLSSKBv+mOo9tWz23QN1qWSoT n1+0wA83klKGIO3Id1D5Tnaq78ZPoWgeLdglYX0ZneWyPmJWUZwZAy4FamT81CnrMvM8TDQgm IUenYLSC7wTx36KctocLM/8YRC4yWGvIAtkdXq4OYGJCkVQ3V/gM77Fk6ghN/uZazkPnLtSWe ZP6GfVOdeSMuoky+s6vQD069ovMwVqD8ErLHJx51f0NMpHP/E5Jve9lz61fw3DrZ0mJmSC2j+ Da1zKXzhMNEKdkPkMr76cO67h2pRkUs+58dsTIscTVDkrOncw1aVjIOK/Wz7LSCGRvUaq0QCh rUPTydyUBu5QP+3Hkm4dSg8fDLEcUW8s2jRg3lt1gi6jRR5++bo8mVYIk3XulIjZUC2H1r9C/ uK1L6V/meskY/nr/U4hPvZY7jD7f5pRWXqbOe2g4zcNLPXoIUroBT6gr/y8HxPStABguzi07N xvv936Xq6ymY107xC+3MPuTUowulHt6xlk9yHLX9X9zsSfzimbDHaVrWw0SD2guwphanpN8nq Iz6VcepvxJw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Change in the results of using the "author" tag X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2019 21:23:17 -0000 On 07.04.2019 22:24, Charlie Perkins wrote: > Hello folks, > > My file contains the following source lines of .xml: > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "IEEE 802 Wireless" > > The citation has not changed in a good while, but I noticed the > following change in the output from November to March: > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0 [ietf_802-11] >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 "Dorothy Stanley", "IEEE 802.11 multicast capabilities", >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Nov 2015. > > versus > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0 [ietf_802-11] >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 "IEEE 802 Wireless", "IEEE 802.11 multicast capabilities", >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Nov 2015. > > I prefer that the bibliographic citation show Dorothy Stanley as author, > not IEEE 802 Wireless.=C2=A0 Is this still possible?=C2=A0 Or, if not, w= hat is the > correct way to express the authorship to get the desired result? > > Thanks in advance for your consideration of my request. > > Regards, > Charlie P. You should be able to get the author name back by specifying surname and initials attributes. Best regards, Julian PS: for the details about what changed, Henrik should know... From nobody Sun Apr 7 18:13:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA5B12017F for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id srdb0jXX3VRC for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 18:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B252E120194 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2019 18:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0216.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0216.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.216]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44csqM63wCzyNy; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 03:13:03 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 $3445.9.1$) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <839e1f64-0e2a-b50b-5d14-c992f1de6597@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 03:13:03 +0200 Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 576378781.074774-57a073327ede30add2f437c0b51b0896 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <839e1f64-0e2a-b50b-5d14-c992f1de6597@earthlink.net> To: Charlie Perkins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Change in the results of using the "author" tag X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 01:13:09 -0000 Dorothy Stanley would be an unusual surname in the English-speaking = world. So I=E2=80=99m not surprised that the handling of that is weird and even = changed between versions. The logic in the version I=E2=80=99m looking at = (cli/xml2rfc/util/name.py, rev 2851 ~ December 2018) is: The attributes initials and surname are only used if both are set, = otherwise fullname is used (with some heuristics for generating = abbreviated initials that don=E2=80=99t work, e.g., in Spanish names), = and if that doesn=E2=80=99t exist either there is no name (which means = that the organization will be used if there is one). Which seems to be exactly what you are seeing. The only way to get Dorothy=E2=80=99s name with unabbreviated initials = seems to be to make that the org. But that lack of a feature is kind of = OK, because that=E2=80=99s not the way we do this: RFC 7322, 4.8.6.6. Referencing Other Standards Development = Organizations (SDOs) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On Apr 7, 2019, at 22:24, Charlie Perkins = wrote: >=20 > Hello folks, >=20 > My file contains the following source lines of .xml: >=20 >> >> "IEEE 802 Wireless" >=20 > The citation has not changed in a good while, but I noticed the = following change in the output from November to March: >=20 >> [ietf_802-11] >> "Dorothy Stanley", "IEEE 802.11 multicast = capabilities", >> Nov 2015. >=20 > versus >=20 >> [ietf_802-11] >> "IEEE 802 Wireless", "IEEE 802.11 multicast = capabilities", >> Nov 2015. >=20 > I prefer that the bibliographic citation show Dorothy Stanley as = author, not IEEE 802 Wireless. Is this still possible? Or, if not, = what is the correct way to express the authorship to get the desired = result? >=20 > Thanks in advance for your consideration of my request. >=20 > Regards, > Charlie P. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc >=20 >=20 From nobody Mon Apr 8 04:18:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4505F1201EB; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 04:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aT0gG2Sj5qU1; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 04:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durif.tools.ietf.org (durif.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::3d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9C3912006D; Mon, 8 Apr 2019 04:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from henrik by durif.tools.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hDSIW-0008DY-Hl; Mon, 08 Apr 2019 04:18:44 -0700 To: xml2rfc-dev@ietf.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org Cc: rfc-markdown@ietf.org Message-Id: From: Henrik Levkowetz Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 04:18:44 -0700 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rfc-markdown@ietf.org, xml2rfc-dev@ietf.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on durif.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] New xml2rfc release: v2.22.3 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 11:18:47 -0000 Hi, This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, v2.22.3, generated when running the mkrelease script. Release notes: xml2rfc (2.22.3) ietf; urgency=medium This release brings further tweaks and imporvements to the v3 text format output in the area of Table of Content formatting, and fixes a number of bugs. * Tweaked the handling of ToC page numbers in the v3 text format. * Tweaked the xml inserted by the preptool for the ToC to give ToC indentation and spacing which better match the legacy text format (and also looks better). * Added a rewrite of for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:02:13 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Input: {{{ € }}} Output: {{{ Traceback (most recent call last): File "/bin/xml2rfc", line 10, in sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/run.py", line 549, in main writer.write(filename) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 228, in write lines = self.render(self.root, width=72, joiners=joiners) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 2834, in render_rfc lines = self.ljoin(lines, c, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 446, in ljoin res = mklines(self.render(e, width, **kwargs), e) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 2024, in render_middle lines = self.ljoin(lines, c, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 446, in ljoin res = mklines(self.render(e, width, **kwargs), e) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 3102, in render_section lines = self.ljoin(lines, c, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 446, in ljoin res = mklines(self.render(e, width, **kwargs), e) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 3102, in render_section lines = self.ljoin(lines, c, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 446, in ljoin res = mklines(self.render(e, width, **kwargs), e) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 3470, in render_t text = fill(self.inner_text_renderer(e), width=width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 504, in inner_text_renderer text += self.render(c, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 271, in render res = func(e, width, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/text.py", line 4241, in render_u self.err(e, exception) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 1735, in err msg = self.msg(e, 'Error:', text) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 1676, in msg msg = "%s(%s): %s %s" % (file or self.xmlrfc.source, lnum, label, text, ) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\x80' in position 30: ordinal not in range(128) }}} -- -----------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version 2 cli | Version: 2.22.* Keywords: | -----------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 00:02:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4B8120277 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #401 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:02:29 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Changes (by julian.reschke@gmx.de): * component: Version 2 cli => Version_3_cli_txt -- ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 00:05:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB23120278 for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] #402 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 9 (HTAB) failure X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 07:05:12 -0000 #402: for code point 9 (HTAB) failure Input: {{{ }}} Output: {{{ e2.xml(596): Error: When looking for the name of " ", got: no such name Not creating output file due to errors (see above) }}} We could also disallow this codepoint (and CR LF as well), but that should then be added to the documentation. -- -----------------------------------+-------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Keywords: | -----------------------------------+-------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 01:32:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B2D120287 for ; 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That is: no controls except HTAB, CR, and LF. This *might* be considered a problem when documenting protocols where controls matter, but I guess this isn't new, and the purpose of is mainly to address non-ASCII characters. But it would be interesting see whether other people fell different. I also noticed that the current version of xml2rfc fails in different ways when the Unicode database doesn't have the expected entries. Filed for C1 controls such as HTAB and for C1 control= s. 2) Format string So we have two different format notations (see ). It would be good to document how exactly a processor decides between these two. Also, every time placeholders are used I routinely wonder whether we might need a way to escape them... Best regards, Julian From nobody Thu Apr 11 04:26:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D682112011D for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5HgrkKQyoIh for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCE90120099 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:35038 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hEXqS-0006XC-IK; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 04:26:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:26:15 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/401#comment:2 Message-ID: <084.773026c7d5bbae1849a3ff382e1ed331@tools.ietf.org> References: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 401 In-Reply-To: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #401 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:26:21 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Comment (by duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp): An error may be better than an exception. But one or the other is appropriate, because € is just an undefined control codepoint, and shouldn't turn up in an RFC at all. -- ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 05:36:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387B1201D9 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4t5Zj5oXCzHK for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47AF71201B6 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36673 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hEYvt-0000gv-UB; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:35:57 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/401#comment:3 Message-ID: <084.670beec749a2d4633797495bd088291c@tools.ietf.org> References: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 401 In-Reply-To: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #401 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:36:01 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Comment (by julian.reschke@gmx.de): AFAICT, it's not an undefined control point in Unicode - otherwise why does it show up in the Unicode database? But yes, *if* we want to exclude C1 controls, we need to clarify that in the documentation. -- ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 08:06:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAC012038D; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uk5RB021gF8V; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D16E120006; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A08E1C2B53; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eREjFUQfHriH; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.119.8.87] (unknown [74.115.160.217]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7DA11C38DB; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Heather Flanagan Message-Id: <3A0F4CD6-451F-44E2-9DA4-28235C638588@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_70EA8E26-3E37-43FE-B9DB-177E25DC9DDC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 $3445.104.8$) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:06:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: <308E0D17-7B84-4782-B17D-EE06EE80E6BE@rfc-editor.org> Cc: "rfc-markdown@ietf.org" , "xml2rfc-dev@ietf.org" , "xml2rfc@ietf.org" To: Julian Reschke References:

On Apr 9, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Heather Flanagan <rse@rfc-editor.org> = wrote:

On = Apr 9, 2019, at 09:01, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:

On 09.04.2019 17:37, = HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
On 4/9/19, 8:19 AM, "Julian Reschke" = <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:

   On 09.04.2019 14:11, HANSEN, TONY L = wrote:
...
How is the requirement to generate a single initial = communicated within the XML? By looking at the RFC number? Or by a = different attribute specified somewhere? While using the RFC number = might seem simpler, I think it's better to be transparent and use an = attribute.
...

   Yes.

   But we really should ask the RFC Editor = whether they are sure about
   this. After = all, it seems to be a violation of the style guide:
   <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7322#section-4.8.6.2>.
For re-rendering old RFCs that were = originally written using a previous style guide? The interesting thing = about style guides is that they do change over time.

Yes, but in that case the = rendering depends on the RFC the reference
appears in, not = on the referenced document.

FWIW, it would = be great if revisions to the style guide also defined a
precise start date from which the rules apply.

I know = that we've had various means of doing these stylistic machinations = through the years, such as code that says "if rfc number < some = value, do this special stylistic processing" or "if public date is = before some value, do this special stylistic processing ". The reason I = asked my question was that I don't know how the current V3 code is = making its decisions for these stylistic issues. My suggestion above is = that instead of having code like that, it should instead be "if some = <rfc> attribute is set, do this to the initials".

Hi all,

I=E2=80=99m discussing this with Sandy and Alice now; a = response to the list may take a day or so as I=E2=80=99m traveling at = the moment.

And = coming back to this:

A longstanding = principle for referencing RFCs is to make the reference match what is on = the front page of the RFC itself, over what information is in any other = location. This is something we should be clearer about in the Style = Guide, but it is a practice we=E2=80=99ve enforced for quite a long = time.

Changing the tool to match this = longstanding practice is not ideal, but it is expedient given that the = proper way to handle this is an extensive data cleanup of the citation = library. I=E2=80=99ve asked the RPC to prioritize getting documents = published and format implementation over this kind of data cleanup for = now.

-Heather = Flanagan

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<561D7097-7155-4DDD-8C5D-FA65663B5105@att.com> <280b0cf8-a7d0-0334-42fe-a9cd6e7966d7@gmx.de> <1DC0E053-509F-4531-9EAF-1A287FFA4ECD@att.com> <8cedc522-614c-039c-e550-8f5494ab040f@gmx.de> <308E0D17-7B84-4782-B17D-EE06EE80E6BE@rfc-editor.org> <3A0F4CD6-451F-44E2-9DA4-28235C638588@rfc-editor.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <666df9be-1922-e82e-f3ed-047a7708937c@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 17:10:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A0F4CD6-451F-44E2-9DA4-28235C638588@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:WyrY1bUWDPLoi/MZLzRdFk9sP+jfTt9/DaYg+MRNgO1GWQ5BCSB hdvbopLAY5/XzLXlrREIXVRvUvmPOEf9e8eZPWp6BQuExMcTjz8Z9vaEEiwzhbFGJlOHtTs JXPm0aLyLEgMHpn96+v1W6keH4SN1UjKSNkQiLXRnt2kEsRgLIcc0WqkciIjWmxtEsjXAXa qOIPdiY8tNzjx22wzDeIA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:trjc7gyZ2G8=:GchDk7Z9Pq+kZPSrEZfEq5 e4+4jedCzhdEpB6EU963/faRJbrLe5zjKsxGXosAFgfWvFJG4LJLJzddS0GJDKxrO5pLlFTiS 4+hZVClsIqsUD1FZ4brAu7Wg/T8BjOtx0s4MjNwC92R93BYfE+FXfQiB9R9ywHupZpuWW4kiD YZUO81vvEbMx+Pw/AccfKuYvvGB8bf0cJ/4/0UF6ZGjtqzPtlTbCqDSFE3V/GGo7OwzM9ZMBm 4416NcgNDz337KKtLBNF+oohvZBcBxC1DRAmHmSP13EifKEnNYhdZ7SdlWC+E0qCIfXFCN1Xn p3GG1wa+g52ZVhKCGYhcPl1gNTWZc485ZtJFbmQk6i7S0x7Ap8S7FhOKhhmEfhUuY94wnntMC 6A/63QE4XvlEVri+6qw73vGmuobwjgIB4+9ZGH7g55Vb/DYAodTMZ+8s+vK5iRptPidEjJ9un c5sc0QPx1mU6sWnhLEOHWhMJlXSPNQxwd2tdcnVt5M2AU8Cl+RNk1RFBKUJXX/hE8unNsC2o7 fmQssKNEcolDkF4fduFUxcSBNi1ZsHia/wOKlr2wteziNwy7C9W6giyoDeLfeY8oyUdPB1YH9 6NwjN1zgTaZRNF2zM03ba26JcK2dVHtY8MC+NOXtvd5asCfezr0k4pSNJ5FDtdlkD8/00mjad kbvhaOlfc0WsA6V8FefJsDqbHwlZ+cMXb2xXSP0BMyVyzGl1WR5RSmycdgaxWpFOlg9RIO61D fR3R8tuYM34tMZUTkeDnmAfm+7jyDzAqcPe3P0dM9MF6Y3K4WszX5GZ/VHBf7BrH3+P7ul0s7 h5qZXF1Fhq/jG8xHvYYfUi17skluOFN8ThliXyvAXLnRkjZtIkSyKf/1Usx43TcCucj1u1n75 8NPBG4H5FOTk0AnvGHymAHANG6DuUGtJqR2faMaKbPLi3H9+VNFbpHT5NFOFM7Q2dZEiYSkkY JCsjwbNVbQA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] [Rfc-markdown] initials handling, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.22.3 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:10:56 -0000 On 11.04.2019 17:06, Heather Flanagan wrote: > ... > And coming back to this: > > A longstanding principle for referencing RFCs is to make the reference > match what is on the front page of the RFC itself, over what information > is in any other location. This is something we should be clearer about > in the Style Guide, but it is a practice we=E2=80=99ve enforced for quit= e a long > time. > > Changing the tool to match this longstanding practice is not ideal, but > it is expedient given that the proper way to handle this is an extensive > data cleanup of the citation library. I=E2=80=99ve asked the RPC to prio= ritize > getting documents published and format implementation over this kind of > data cleanup for now. > ... FWIW, this indeed is *not* a change in the style, as far as I can tell. Rather than that, it just highlights an inconsistency between the published elements and the actual RFCs. The fix IMHO is to fix the files when the problem shows up. Putting extra logic into the formatter seems to be clearly the wrong approach. Best regards, Julian From nobody Thu Apr 11 22:16:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED471200B3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:16:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RQJdnbUE7rQn for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95A66120077 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38463 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hEoYR-0000IG-FO; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:16:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:16:47 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/401#comment:4 Message-ID: <084.09ad59e69789dfe57bb2ffeda6481602@tools.ietf.org> References: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 401 In-Reply-To: <069.ffb6d47355c72e9e32510b3d614f397e@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik@levkowetz.com, julian.reschke@gmx.de, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #401 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:16:51 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Comment (by duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp): With "undefined control codepoint", I meant that it's a control, but it's not defined what kind of control. Some other controls have explanations (e.g. 009D = OPERATING SYSTEM COMMAND), see https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf. U+0080 doesn't. On top of that, even for those controls that have explanations, this is just the ISO/IEC 6429:1992 interpretation, and Unicode doesn't force that. As for documentation, I hope there is already something about how to use non-ASCII characters carefully. Not using U+0080 can easily be seen as including that, there's no need for explicitly mentioning it. -- ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Thu Apr 11 22:36:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6990D12017C for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FxZPhM1iOLHG for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] #401 (Version_3_cli_txt): for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 05:36:09 -0000 #401: for code point 128 (C1 control) causes exception Comment (by julian.reschke@gmx.de): Martin, the code fails in the same way for U+0092. -- ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: henrik@levkowetz.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Resolution: | Keywords: ------------------------------------+---------------------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Sun Apr 14 02:51:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF9912061C for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 02:51:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gHKOvhPwQc7c for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 02:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A02C120071 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 02:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34555 helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hFbnD-00052r-IF; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 02:51:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "xml2rfc issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.12.5 Precedence: bulk Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.12.5, by Edgewall Software To: julian.reschke@gmx.de X-Trac-Project: xml2rfc Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 09:51:19 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/ticket/403 Message-ID: <069.e2f39b44150eb14a42542b1878514edc@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 403 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: julian.reschke@gmx.de, xml2rfc@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] #403 (Version_3_cli_txt): HTAB in artwork/sourcecode is accepted X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 09:51:25 -0000 #403: HTAB in artwork/sourcecode is accepted ...but shouldn't, see . An example source file happens to be -- -----------------------------------+-------------------- Reporter: julian.reschke@gmx.de | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: medium | Milestone: Component: Version_3_cli_txt | Version: 2.22.* Keywords: | -----------------------------------+-------------------- Ticket URL: xml2rfc From nobody Sun Apr 14 03:55:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D359B120494 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yehQd8ZAjqkp for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF6FD120127 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:55:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1555239302; bh=BotanJp9gvl+ELzxMi6HuShKVW3F/4vsBj85E4Mw/WU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:To:Cc:From:Subject:Date; b=C1RisAY211xu1xtNoeBWzhWBOOPRky2S1+hW2N7Bz66z9uKYRghJq7HPZOoGyohs5 ctbB8x308HHjTxM9DAKrZgz/YweQkxLdVpxLgs2vMFHqyVcr+jzCqx7itdDkqrK9ku CAklb4ly12UfmI8jSkwkaCF8dHCHRQDNIGiBG8fE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.124] ([217.251.141.169]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MEo4s-1h46Tk0LWc-00G1c4; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:55:02 +0200 To: webmaster@tools.ietf.org Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:54:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:8pmTs4bBm76mSgb135cxqu9Rplu36PIpQCUAs39xntJ833X9UU2 ZOQVud3/vQ/i+vpDc08i3Q+7sBaMtf/7RPhS7EseaTl3Sz/gG5Pbd6jWQ0LAWZZ5ohQckOu n34Yv7/8f3y6H/wT1vsgBR/kapgvpB7sPDhBBz1ybo5ZlwrMPIySBfRrvcxWWN5JKxfxkAo hKnCB1ZRSqkdsZJxWOV8w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:NVZkpVesUcw=:xJuTpqJEGBx9NNblZw5krL dSyx6CodLs/MZIJZAbOEjBs1zrZy8sIy2HlNLuI6jPr/pPBWCOFtvHXzattc0QXGsj8F7/Swd rT6/LZra0+Re6ODp64eOFZf7MOLZxLxb2DhOrCDpsnKn3+CedC/CiZtho+opbPWmEQWoo9f8r rtWRa2AcbBFFykIobQ6qVONCGpcIUmL/9L9YP/IPfmp4tJykBFQE/ux7dfy7/9plM+pj+NkEy Vzn+AJANzjF8sQv2JcPaC2aPBIpMZoA4xOmpPfbrD61v9TPORUnVXnLL/eAO5ca06JV1infHy FaTB6bJP84k7GKRldCF4ueILvxVpVJ+QT1XbsS8pBennp8zBchjKtb/swr88tlo2ccvPPg1bu yuIE0X+M/4uHrXxwg873AQsHg/prQn+UU96bZrJKjWDcf9y85C/adLCaAA1Dx03Nq09Ff+osy N0bTpBBumyjTxY2D7KS6So2Pf0z+/UdUmQUFWm/nIQoycIxFTJ/IBaK+QDJ5qq+u5qJIEKnkj 0V9nXKwExUERRy3sKR4k4d5XsbjrTMsWC9iJ2yLPUfXMjd6mwg1a4wgAB9sIRYljdsH6HKYfw +9AGbGOzsWjopxg9goixrWu79gadePQCX9vJDAuJ/jDLxvqhEjggWbySB42/QiYo350ZUQVQI YmXPwUnShImQqoetsj+Gb881J1+lcRJXe8N3KCofK9Q8cn+kCirEJsk5c5A5xiciT6QZroomu dVn18t0lPFOJrBAmv0byqr0gmFhOtgosK/cCZMN0cQyoCj7ua6Mf15oXNUedpVAItc9DKp2cr ggAUbIcuhoXMM2/KQk7dHFwYzjmPL8zhvFBzBuOGDZANlRHvmA3e53ytCR1zHpSxYfEsMb1Z/ xFlpYiPyEvqApOOHhjC3HPtdctFtkhV0YyNZ6Fh1hAZVJCplLqU6EUdKBkfxNyMBapANEktNi 41KNTaBSjww== Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml seems to ban certain User Agent strings X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 10:55:14 -0000 Hi there, currently redirects to for most user agents. However some receive a 403, which makes things very hard to debug if this happens. Example: > curl -s -D- -A Java/1.8.0 https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.0952.xml yields > HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 10:52:45 GMT > Server: Apache > Content-Length: 368 > Connection: close > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > > > > 403 Forbidden > >

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.= 0952.xml > on this server.
>

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden > error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the= request.

> while > curl -s -D- -A foobar https://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC.0952.xml returns: > HTTP/1.1 302 Found > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 10:53:45 GMT > Server: Apache > Location: https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml/reference.RFC= .0952.xml > Content-Length: 255 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > > > > 302 Found > >

Found

The document has moved here.

> Is this intentional? Best regards, Julian From nobody Fri Apr 19 10:59:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A693120321 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3VJP7VUYAd29 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:8006::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5B44120320 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.rg.net) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hHXnH-0002Dn-Uy for xml2rfc@ietf.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:59:24 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: XML2RFC Interest Group User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/25.3 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] url ref confusion X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:59:28 -0000 https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/FAQ-xml2rfcv3.html#name-how-do-i-reference-a-url says World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) i try Clos Network i get Error: Unable to validate the XML document: foo.xml : Line 1552: Element front content does not follow the DTD, expecting (title , author+ , date , area* , workgroup* , keyword* , abstract? , note*), got (title author) what am i doing wrongly this time? randy From nobody Fri Apr 19 11:19:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79BB1200B9 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cy9-Peuqs8hC for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 899DA120103 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:59011 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hHY6Y-0002pC-76; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:19:19 -0700 To: Randy Bush , XML2RFC Interest Group References: