From anthony.schoofs@gmail.com Wed Jul 1 07:21:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA763A6B8C for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 927EOM+okFo0 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f225.google.com (mail-bw0-f225.google.com [209.85.218.225]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D63A67AE for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz25 with SMTP id 25so548676bwz.37 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=90Wu30xOF5Iv4lPvHJTs/QUsQVz3uLc6W+/IVaDDkx8=; b=wNtl5tA9GpNY5FAoSKapcDr2fnqsL/v5YaohQ/JVs522kIL7HaGhfSppVXuGKsKRWU tbNzybhluR/WV7atyenha+wZV1x2iBruOdOVZGziE9xoEYDxDIopiLiuvqSuEU+dK1S+ 2b/ehpS0ckpsGTFEIn2o1sqLsge7CVrw2dzyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bglcbKFkuDvaULKbpSJuQDruBsN1k7i7kcIHy/SevbgfESw0hQoBH3fuiPsbv5399c SFkKF8ugB5eubwkumaYCreM1OYQkEegsOwG5SnWnwGTFNGNzKNTxeaWL0/B9RjEqmuFV i4EmCw0qSSU9fenWEIPRucuvF5NZBgG+nH+Nw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.211 with SMTP id g19mr6357494fap.39.1246457691684; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:14:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5ED76C03-235E-44CB-8236-A59CAE41E26A@archrock.com> References: <20090630170512.DD77E3A6A3E@core3.amsl.com> <5ED76C03-235E-44CB-8236-A59CAE41E26A@archrock.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: <28f107410907010714i81c1775j78c60cae3ba40101@mail.gmail.com> From: anthony schoofs To: Jonathan Hui , pthubert@cisco.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a717f0ce9c046da58bf4 Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05 X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:21:15 -0000 --001636c5a717f0ce9c046da58bf4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jonathan, Pascal, I had two general questions about the 6LoWPAN hc-05 draft. - Sections 3.2 and 3.3 define compression formats for IPv6 extension and UDP headers, using the LOWPAN_NHC header. Wouldn't it be a good opportunity to include now more compression formats, for instance for common headers such as TCP and ICMPv6? Having them included in a RFC would ensure interoperability at later stage whenever people wish to use them. This document might be the right place. - As the hc draft aims at updating RFC4944, some extra text could indicate what parts of RFC4944 are still valid, such as 6LoWPAN fragmentation. This would help for understanding how RFC4944 and the updating RFC complete each other. Kind regards, Anthony On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jonathan Hui wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Below is a summary of changes in this draft. Please send comments. Thanks. > > 1) Specify use of context 0 when CID is 0. > - addresses ticket #32 > > 2) Made prefix-based multicast encoding format more explicit for clarity. > - addresses ticket #33 > > 3) Indicate that first 64-bits is link-local prefix padded with zeros when > link-local prefix is elided. > - addresses ticket #34 > > 4) Full 128-bit address inline only in stateless encoding. > - Removes encoding redundancy and doesn't make sense to allow a > non-stateful mode when stateful compression is specified. > > 5) Removed support for compressing unspecified address. > - Falls out of change (4). Unspecified address probably won't be used much > since we are changing how DAD works in 6LoWPAN networks. > > 6) Added support for IPv6 Extension Headers as well as IP-in-IP with new > LOWPAN_NHC encodings. > - Mostly what we talked about at the SF meeting. > > 7) Allow for completely stateful compression. > - Changed wording around stateful compression so that inline bits can be > used as an additional index to identify the compressed address. > > -- > Jonathan Hui > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >> Date: June 30, 2009 10:05:12 AM PDT >> To: jhui@archrock.com >> Cc: pthubert@cisco.com >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05 >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05.txt has been successfuly >> submitted by Jonathan Hui and posted to the IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc >> Revision: 05 >> Title: Compression Format for IPv6 Datagrams in 6LoWPAN Networks >> Creation_date: 2009-06-30 >> WG ID: 6lowpan >> Number_of_pages: 19 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies an IPv6 header compression format for IPv6 >> packet delivery in 6LoWPAN networks. The compression format relies >> on shared context to allow compression of arbitrary prefixes. The >> information that is maintained in that shared context is out of >> scope. This document specifies compression of multicast addresses >> and a framework for compressing next headers. This framework >> specifies UDP compression and is prepared for additional transports. >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > --001636c5a717f0ce9c046da58bf4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jonathan, Pascal,

I had two general questions about the 6LoWPAN h= c-05 draft.

- Sections 3.2 and 3.3 define compression formats for IP= v6 extension and UDP headers, using the LOWPAN_NHC header.
Wouldn't= it be a good opportunity to include now more compression formats, for inst= ance for common headers such as TCP and ICMPv6? Having them included in a R= FC would ensure interoperability at later stage whenever people wish to use= them. This document might be the right place.

- As the hc draft aims at updating RFC4944, some extra text could indic= ate what parts of RFC4944 are still valid, such as 6LoWPAN fragmentation. T= his would help for understanding how RFC4944 and the updating RFC complete = each other.

Kind regards,
Anthony

On Tue, Jun = 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jonathan Hui <jhui@archrock.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Below is a summary of changes in this draft. Please send comments. Thanks.<= br>
1) Specify use of context 0 when CID is 0.
- addresses ticket #32

2) Made prefix-based multicast encoding format more explicit for =A0clarity= .
- addresses ticket #33

3) Indicate that first 64-bits is link-local prefix padded with zeros when = link-local prefix is elided.
- addresses ticket #34

4) Full 128-bit address inline only in stateless encoding.
- Removes encoding redundancy and doesn't make sense to allow a non-sta= teful mode when stateful compression is specified.

5) Removed support for compressing unspecified address.
- Falls out of change (4). Unspecified address probably won't be used m= uch since we are changing how DAD works in 6LoWPAN networks.

6) Added support for IPv6 Extension Headers as well as IP-in-IP with new LO= WPAN_NHC encodings.
- Mostly what we talked about at the SF meeting.

7) Allow for completely stateful compression.
- Changed wording around stateful compression so that inline bits can be us= ed as an additional index to identify the compressed address.

--
Jonathan Hui

Begin forwarded message:

From: IETF I-D Submission Tool <idsubmission@ietf.org>
Date: June 30, 2009 10:05:12 AM PDT
To: jhui@archrock.co= m
Cc: pthubert@cisco.= com
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05


A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05.txt has been successfuly sub= mitted by Jonathan Hui and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc
Revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A005
Title: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Compression Format for IPv6 Datagrams in 6LoWPAN= Networks
Creation_date: =A0 2009-06-30
WG ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6lowpan
Number_of_pages: 19

Abstract:
This document specifies an IPv6 header compression format for IPv6
packet delivery in 6LoWPAN networks. =A0The compression format relies
on shared context to allow compression of arbitrary prefixes. =A0The
information that is maintained in that shared context is out of
scope. =A0This document specifies compression of multicast addresses
and a framework for compressing next headers. =A0This framework
specifies UDP compression and is prepared for additional transports.



The IETF Secretariat.



_______________________________________________
6lowpan mailing list
6lowpan@ietf.org<= br> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan

--001636c5a717f0ce9c046da58bf4-- From jhui@archrock.com Wed Jul 1 15:55:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71573A6802 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7kJLlYUREMK for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sf.archrock.com (mail.sf.archrock.com [216.121.16.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE79F3A67AF for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sf.archrock.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C845AF860; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Received: from mail.sf.archrock.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.sf.archrock.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWSfbICffN4Z; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.7.22] (69-12-164-139.sfo.archrock.com [69.12.164.139]) by mail.sf.archrock.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4A7AF81E; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jonathan Hui To: anthony schoofs In-Reply-To: <28f107410907010714i81c1775j78c60cae3ba40101@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:55:39 -0700 References: <20090630170512.DD77E3A6A3E@core3.amsl.com> <5ED76C03-235E-44CB-8236-A59CAE41E26A@archrock.com> <28f107410907010714i81c1775j78c60cae3ba40101@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05 X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:55:28 -0000 Hi Anthony, On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:14 AM, anthony schoofs wrote: > I had two general questions about the 6LoWPAN hc-05 draft. > > - Sections 3.2 and 3.3 define compression formats for IPv6 extension > and UDP headers, using the LOWPAN_NHC header. > Wouldn't it be a good opportunity to include now more compression > formats, for instance for common headers such as TCP and ICMPv6? > Having them included in a RFC would ensure interoperability at later > stage whenever people wish to use them. This document might be the > right place. If we had a good proposal for compressing ICMPv6 and TCP, then I think you're right. We've basically punted on ICMPv6 and TCP simply because we haven't come up with something compelling yet. For TCP, we'd probably want some negotiation to avoid flow-based compression state and code complexity when that is undesired. > - As the hc draft aims at updating RFC4944, some extra text could > indicate what parts of RFC4944 are still valid, such as 6LoWPAN > fragmentation. This would help for understanding how RFC4944 and the > updating RFC complete each other. Sure. We'll add this into the next revision. Thanks. -- Jonathan Hui > Kind regards, > Anthony > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jonathan Hui > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Below is a summary of changes in this draft. Please send comments. > Thanks. > > 1) Specify use of context 0 when CID is 0. > - addresses ticket #32 > > 2) Made prefix-based multicast encoding format more explicit for > clarity. > - addresses ticket #33 > > 3) Indicate that first 64-bits is link-local prefix padded with > zeros when link-local prefix is elided. > - addresses ticket #34 > > 4) Full 128-bit address inline only in stateless encoding. > - Removes encoding redundancy and doesn't make sense to allow a non- > stateful mode when stateful compression is specified. > > 5) Removed support for compressing unspecified address. > - Falls out of change (4). Unspecified address probably won't be > used much since we are changing how DAD works in 6LoWPAN networks. > > 6) Added support for IPv6 Extension Headers as well as IP-in-IP with > new LOWPAN_NHC encodings. > - Mostly what we talked about at the SF meeting. > > 7) Allow for completely stateful compression. > - Changed wording around stateful compression so that inline bits > can be used as an additional index to identify the compressed address. > > -- > Jonathan Hui > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: IETF I-D Submission Tool > Date: June 30, 2009 10:05:12 AM PDT > To: jhui@archrock.com > Cc: pthubert@cisco.com > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05 > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc-05.txt has been > successfuly submitted by Jonathan Hui and posted to the IETF > repository. > > Filename: draft-ietf-6lowpan-hc > Revision: 05 > Title: Compression Format for IPv6 Datagrams in 6LoWPAN > Networks > Creation_date: 2009-06-30 > WG ID: 6lowpan > Number_of_pages: 19 > > Abstract: > This document specifies an IPv6 header compression format for IPv6 > packet delivery in 6LoWPAN networks. The compression format relies > on shared context to allow compression of arbitrary prefixes. The > information that is maintained in that shared context is out of > scope. This document specifies compression of multicast addresses > and a framework for compressing next headers. This framework > specifies UDP compression and is prepared for additional transports. > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:36:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6595F28C1E6 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:36:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r2X7Ol4U-7xx for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F0928C27D for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNlZK-0004Di-Dz; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:37:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:37:06 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/37 Message-ID: <060.1183fb733454f9d4ede47624eb1c5b7f@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 37 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #37: Remove "stateless" wording where possible X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:36:42 -0000 #37: Remove "stateless" wording where possible --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Based on list discussions with Jonathan, it was determined that "stateless" might be misleading with regard to the whiteboard procedures: Remove stateless from the draft, except in reference to the use of RFC4682 SAA while forming addresses (it is the name of the RFC...). -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C75328C29F for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #38: Forming addresses - mention more methods X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:38:10 -0000 #38: Forming addresses - mention more methods --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Clarify that other methods can be used to form addresses, not only SAA. For example manual configuration, DHCP or any other method (e.g. link- layer assignment). -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:40:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA5128C29F for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vlepcVKjozlG for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E5B28C287 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNldT-0006oX-1m; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:41:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: pthubert@cisco.com, zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:41:23 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/39 Message-ID: <060.ef8e338de5da613a43284b9083788589@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 39 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: pthubert@cisco.com, zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #39: Address and OII collision text X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:40:59 -0000 #39: Address and OII collision text --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: pthubert@cisco.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Improve the address and OII collision text, and the coverage of cases. From list discussions, there are some special cases where the current nd-03 OII collision detection text does not work well. List mail from Pascal: The text can definitely be improved. But Mostly we need something that works with all cases covered. Section 7.6 Address collision detection and resolution Seems we are missing text when the binding is for the same edge router different OII. This is a collision and causes a reject exactly like NA (different OII) during DAD. The text also says that upon positive re-registration, the edge router SHOULD set O in NA. This is misworded, in fact it SHOULD send NA(O) as a refresher and eventually a tie breaker if for some reasons (missed DAD) incompatible states have setup. An edge router with a registration should clean up at that point. Section 7.7 Duplicate OII detection As Richard said we need to be more precise on equal TID. That must be treated as a collision otherwise we'll flip flap forever. But then is if there is a risk of a packet getting duplicated over the network we might be doing the wrong thing. Would we need a nonce to discriminate that? Also, in the most pathologic case, if a packet sent to anycast is duplicated, can it reach 2 different packets received by 2 different edge routers? -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:42:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC4128C2DC for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:42:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VXWG3nP9SGii for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E86028C2DF for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNlen-0006s7-VQ; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:42:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:42:45 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/40 Message-ID: <060.bb91d765f42db1b4e3b33a00e7a34abf@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 40 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #40: Whiteboard description X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:42:22 -0000 #40: Whiteboard description --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Check throughout the draft that the Whiteboard is explained in a realistic way: its main purpose is to support DAD. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:49:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B2E3A6B86 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #41: Ad-hoc LoWPAN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:49:13 -0000 #41: Ad-hoc LoWPAN --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Fix the problem with the support of ad-hoc LoWPANs. The current nd-03 text basically describes how to make an Ad-hoc LoWPAN work just like a Simple LoWPAN - thus allowing nodes to function normally. People on the list have problems with this - as it assumes some node has more resources - enough to store the whiteboard. The ULA prefix generation functionality is actually a good feature for all Edge Routers for cases where the LoWPAN is for some reason without a global or manually conigured IPv6 prefix. This feature should be moved to Section 7. If a true "Ad-hoc LoWPAN" can not even support a Whiteboard - then in reality this draft can not help very much. As Ad-hoc networking is not the focus of the 6lowpan WG - this section could be removed all-together. Text should be included in Section 5 address formation on what to do if there is no whiteboard in the network. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 03:50:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A763A686D for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:50:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r94HNT1wyM+7 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60433A69CB for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNlmG-0007GY-GG; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:50:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:50:28 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/36#comment:1 Message-ID: <063.340d35c09053987163c4916b0ac8e9d6@tools.ietf.org> References: <054.3c0d9fa288432c9f49a36bbf05cc1cde@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 36 In-Reply-To: <054.3c0d9fa288432c9f49a36bbf05cc1cde@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #36: Address Option: S=2 never makes sense. X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:50:05 -0000 #36: Address Option: S=2 never makes sense. --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * owner: => zach@sensinode.com -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 6 03:56:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D533A6CFC; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:56:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.235 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.235 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qooXJfghdby2; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876373A6CFB; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n66AuGi6002910; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.107] (p5489FE35.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.254.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4BBB42E; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Carsten Bormann To: 6lowpan@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:56:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: ROLL WG Subject: [6lowpan] 6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:56:02 -0000 The 6LoWPAN and ROLL WGs are laying the groundwork to make the Wireless Embedded Internet a reality, but what application protocols will we use? Request-response protocols like HTTP are a poor fit to a communication model with battery-operated, mostly sleeping nodes. In addition, the usual data formats (both headers and body) are perceived to be too chatty for the 50-60 byte payloads possible in LoWPANs and to require too much code for the 8-bit and 16-bit processors dominating the Internet of Things. Still, it would be a mistake to start a new silo of application protocols that do not benefit from existing application area Internet experience. At IETF75, we will hold a Bar BOF to scope out possible IETF work and maybe form an opinion on which part should be done in which IETF area. Tentative information is at http://u.nu/6jfh = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp (and you are welcome to contribute to this Wiki page). -> Please tell us whether the envisaged date and time of ->Tue 18:30<- will work for you! A first version of a problem statement (where the above paragraph was stolen from) is at: http://tools.ietf.org/id/6lowapp (draft-bormann-6lowpan-6lowapp-problem-00.txt) I will start planning an agenda for the Bar BOF soon, so if you have something to say that would help in this conversation, please tell me (with an estimated amount of time). Gruesse, Carsten From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 04:03:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522A128C2D6 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YRgeF1KvUelE for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDD528C293 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNlz6-0007lX-Ne; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:03:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:03:44 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/42 Message-ID: <060.f5ec2885b5f8be2fa1f1025c97734372@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 42 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #42: OII formation X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:03:22 -0000 #42: OII formation --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Clarify how the OII can be formed from the EUI-64 of the node's interface. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 04:05:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09633A6CE3 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #43: NR/NC option clarification X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:05:12 -0000 #43: NR/NC option clarification --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Describe the use of Source link-layer address and Target link-layer address options in the NR/NC message better. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 6 04:09:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BC03A6A86 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #44: RA dissemination X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:09:15 -0000 #44: RA dissemination --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- The nd-03 draft does not describe in much detail the issues around RA dissemination throughout the LoWPAN in a Route Over configuration. Section 6 should elaborate on RA and prefix dissemination: 1. The use of the 6LoWPAN Multihop Information Option 2. Timings and timer values -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From geoff@mulligan.com Tue Jul 7 02:03:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFD23A6E27 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hLE7uy8MLCHn for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sobek.data102.com (sobek.data102.com [64.111.16.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BA63A6D3E for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.data102.com [127.0.0.1]) by sobek.data102.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF12D2282E for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:54:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at data102.com Received: from sobek.data102.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sobek.data102.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vPFuL7FFlr3P for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [199.233.92.20] (unknown [199.233.92.20]) by sobek.data102.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5BE2282D for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:54:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Geoff Mulligan To: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:54:34 -0600 Message-Id: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:03:12 -0000 Folks, While we wait for the final agenda for the IETF in Stockholm, we need to finalize the topics and agenda for the 6lowpan meeting. Both the HC and ND drafts have been updated and hopefully we can get reports on them. What additional items should we plan to discuss? geoff From hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 04:46:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BD33A6899 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 04:46:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WSJ43UTloqKB for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870073A679C for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so1787372anc.4 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:44:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vMWY6PQlxeD5IPzI974BDHsk5L87ecEzcgRAwvJW/TY=; b=xo/M78aVREKtfqPB0yE8E93wDZhrRRqBihhcDkfJiwWE24mrFb1wY6ygTWHDT7iLEA VIzxXGbAS3leP8eUf1Mnu9P3oelmvhfR6JnSEbAtqdVKmcYBfbKjJTsfclWwcfxnhJZf th6U0zztDGS0lkZ7BnZ4wlnOFEd1PMUoZ0fog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LjEGUw5HnRjhVsrI7WcHtmeUxjaTPflZf6/E338qNJ8lgMc9bAEf125qFcldRVRWwc CujXpiCgzTmGjvLpHJ8mzaJyDYT5A12XI+VgE9IgseWK+evEFeBLJe12ug/Y7GpuZKtd +NjjxcZaXfBOX1jcXKdteWKWOtBDVy31twP8Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.209.5 with SMTP id h5mr10469294ang.124.1246967081643; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:44:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> From: Hamid Mukhtar Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:44:26 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 96fd35412d982ade Message-ID: To: Geoff Mulligan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:46:04 -0000 Dear Geoff, I would like to request a slot for the 6LoWPAN SNMP optimizations draft if possible. Hamid On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > Folks, > =A0While we wait for the final agenda for the IETF in Stockholm, we need > to finalize the topics and agenda for the 6lowpan meeting. > > Both the HC and ND drafts have been updated and hopefully we can get > reports on them. > > What additional items should we plan to discuss? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0geoff > > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > From cabo@tzi.org Tue Jul 7 05:35:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35A3A6A99 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.771 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.771 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.608, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EbosA8XYVhaC for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605E73A6A97 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n67CZTtX013344; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:35:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (reingewinn.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F4ABC23; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:35:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann To: Hamid Mukhtar In-Reply-To: References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> Message-Id: <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:35:28 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:35:23 -0000 > I would like to request a slot for the 6LoWPAN SNMP optimizations > draft if possible. More generally, I'd think we should discuss the relationship between 6lowpan and the 6lowapps problem, but leave the apps-specific part to the Bar BOF, which seems to materialize on Tuesday evening. http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp Gruesse, Carsten From hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 05:59:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679483A6E59 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.48 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.48 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.373, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QNKWrqmANhyi for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58103A6E42 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so1801838anc.4 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:58:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WJrs7hysqbLQ2VqEDPsOCK4Ev8M1zLoly37PtxWjucE=; b=w0L+c3xWKNwESP8qedQLFYWk6EI1ORAE2n6XjqIG/xEludI+H4u2XqMYmLsV5aCzNF /56QmhEJdvRm8mqvWaxxoibvg8bvZ+DKx99o211rtO8SOZx4ASA+2TQEy3r97lujg+GO icjuttfCdbr4Xpv33HtKlKJsm5cSegMNihmqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iorSk+Iny6rVEWMR0kqODReeREC3TP3grAhuq2o0LX21K0s3+OwK2lzqJbnUEUO31C q88lIWoBIGAqjKzMq/yAzxRs8QlyWQK+gYFlgq3MaYbjll5zaSpLwiPt+KD9Lhgi1p4K fqs8BQUSvdXFQbON5xMiLPwUCKl4NLiWbvk+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.127.2 with SMTP id z2mr5807196anc.75.1246971138157; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:52:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> From: Hamid Mukhtar Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:52:03 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 022c13e2d9e36319 Message-ID: To: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:59:41 -0000 On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> >> I would like to request a slot for the 6LoWPAN SNMP optimizations >> draft if possible. > > More generally, I'd think we should discuss the relationship between 6lowpan and the 6lowapps problem, but leave the apps-specific part to the Bar BOF, which seems to materialize on Tuesday evening. > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp Ya Its fine. Either way, it's okay with me. From roberts@isoc.org Tue Jul 7 07:47:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1AA28C45C for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:47:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cXZqmZh1PHa4 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp190.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp190.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.190]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CC028C29A for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AEEF113D332F; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: roberts-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id C3E0E13D3341; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A535FFC.6020003@isoc.org> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:47:24 -0500 From: Phil Roberts User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hamid Mukhtar , 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:47:49 -0000 I would like to be in this BarBof. I would also like to be at the Social. I don't know whether both are possible.... Carsten Bormann wrote: >> I would like to request a slot for the 6LoWPAN SNMP optimizations >> draft if possible. > > More generally, I'd think we should discuss the relationship between > 6lowpan and the 6lowapps problem, but leave the apps-specific part to > the Bar BOF, which seems to materialize on Tuesday evening. > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp > > Gruesse, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan From cabo@tzi.org Tue Jul 7 08:21:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9495428C4C0 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.802 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.802 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.423, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DOJX0PUV7p9d for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FEF28C2E7 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n67FM35X027440; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.107] (p5489C1F0.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.193.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0EFBD77; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:19:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann To: Phil Roberts In-Reply-To: <4A535FFC.6020003@isoc.org> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> <4A535FFC.6020003@isoc.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:19:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Hamid Mukhtar , 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:21:56 -0000 On Jul 7, 2009, at 16:47, Phil Roberts wrote: > I would like to be in this BarBof. I would also like to be at the > Social. I don't know whether both are possible.... That's why I changed the start time to 1830 -- you may still be able to catch the social after the Bar BOF. I hope we can run this with a structured core meeting for 1 hour and maybe an extended (more Bar- BOFy) discussion afterwards. Gruesse, Carsten From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Tue Jul 7 08:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F1628C4D8 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:42:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.755 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.755 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.376, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IYOeDm9RHodr for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4946528C4B7 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837A8C00C8; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: matteo.lasagni@unimore.it, 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: [6lowpan] #45: hc-05 keeps an error derived from hc-03 X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:50:47 -0000 #45: hc-05 keeps an error derived from hc-03 --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: laser820@gmail.com | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: hc | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Keywords: --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Document hc-05, paragraph 2 says: the LOWPAN_IPHC encoding utilizes 11 bits, 3 of which are taken from rightmost bit of the dispatch type. The correct sentence it'd be "the LOWPAN_IPHC encoding utilizes 13 bits, 5 of which are taken from rightmost bit of the dispatch type" as it is in hc-04 -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From kkim86@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 09:19:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B3F3A6BDE for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.533 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_73=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cx3GN3aD-tVU for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939FF3A690F for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f9so1391553rvb.49 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:19:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=z1rQx7+2WbRb3FY6Uje+otsHc4Lt6ntYC7xJBJrJfrE=; b=f0xGbXxh7ciX+gZlc/2bTlqGxAedqLq8sj2ar/N+ICSltt7MFjCjb9JNinsCPUtW/S aQ9I4LY/OdisiEFY0eGNUDmNR4t0/IaMWeFYQv3PmQEoyMQXUQi8HcHmGJeCbvfnwSep lMbvk9F1qhz5nP4x4W9hya0p+iVl7PjidppEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=nMSXUnBztVjKLquxcjPHmlKz/J/QXrv/iKwsx305H5hLG/xxyPy5AU4mnlrTPQ5lGI /Ak/K24mGGsBY0kFoiID5U98856QZk0Ke/snmJnMwkwLDSvKTJi+g1T7ZsiN20fS0lEK 0Rs85c6TFdKL/g0UQ43EPEE5jcSUqotvhvPCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.20.9 with SMTP id x9mr3701264rvi.201.1246983566357; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:19:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> From: =?UTF-8?B?S2ktSHl1bmcgS2ltICjquYDquLDtmJUp?= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:19:06 +0900 Message-ID: To: Geoff Mulligan , Carsten Bormann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a9028374dc046e1ffceb Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:19:37 -0000 --000e0cd1a9028374dc046e1ffceb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geoff and Carsten,Can I request for the presentation time for 6lowpan MIB? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-00 __ Ki-Hyung Kim (=B1=E8=B1=E2=C7=FC, =D1=D1=D1=C3=FA=FB) Associate Professor, Ajou University, Korea, http://www.6lowpan.net Tel: +82-31-219-2433, Cel: +82-10-4760-2551 On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 02:54, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > Folks, > While we wait for the final agenda for the IETF in Stockholm, we need > to finalize the topics and agenda for the 6lowpan meeting. > > Both the HC and ND drafts have been updated and hopefully we can get > reports on them. > > What additional items should we plan to discuss? > > geoff > > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > --000e0cd1a9028374dc046e1ffceb Content-Type: text/html; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geoff and Carsten,
Can I request for the presentation time for 6lowpan = MIB?
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-00 


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Ki-Hyung Kim (=B1=E8=B1=E2=C7=FC, =D1= =D1=D1=C3=FA=FB)
Associate Professor, Ajou University, Korea,  http://www.6lowpan.net
Tel: +82-31-2= 19-2433, Cel: +82-10-4760-2551


On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 02:54, Geoff Mull= igan <geoff@mull= igan.com> wrote:
Folks,
 While we wait for the final agenda for the IETF in Stockholm, we nee= d
to finalize the topics and agenda for the 6lowpan meeting.

Both the HC and ND drafts have been updated and hopefully we can get
reports on them.

What additional items should we plan to discuss?

       geoff


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--000e0cd1a9028374dc046e1ffceb-- From eunah.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 22:23:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E1328C2FB for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:23:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fqToJQvdTkpl for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324BD28C11F for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so128414wff.31 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:23:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RKe7xNviV/yvoI6py7sPHrwsR10lLVTbxXx6EZpYQA8=; b=J34Nf1sb/yRSlOsDm92dtHMAJxlAanoHbTX51olPO66D9XvenMOoRt+bj4yrR8/wsR 26FwmCfyCSjsMio0pBExAd1TIG7WkKL6wlOI+jxHSqqIGal2y+U/oxNYz71fjXRcMgrC mKl3aSy7saeh10Aqbacbl/iNhNfXcS67+nJYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NsiD+/fZm98ofAUfLVGNSVKFIFLVIBAXNzG+iNvaAP6Wh73pgyhlHP8T6T7axi6MR7 7UiakdRD4Zxxcekxbmrmd3YgXKyWYdwzDAxZ9XRJNDmaE16zGbt9BkmYXFdAhEvFECsZ sCc5LALhLMsXftR+MGVo/G9rQYIJ1yhvBqD4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr2186101wfc.21.1247030606145; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:23:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:23:26 +0900 Message-ID: <77f1dba80907072223ue0e871nd33464747d00e4fe@mail.gmail.com> From: "Eunsook \"Eunah\" Kim" To: Geoff Mulligan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:23:16 -0000 Dear Geoff, I'm planning to submit usecase-03 very soon. In addition, routing-requiremnts was updated to -02 just after the SF meeti= ng, and refinement (-03) will be done before the I-D cut-off. Please include the two drafts into the agenda. Thanks, -eunah On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > Folks, > =A0While we wait for the final agenda for the IETF in Stockholm, we need > to finalize the topics and agenda for the 6lowpan meeting. > > Both the HC and ND drafts have been updated and hopefully we can get > reports on them. > > What additional items should we plan to discuss? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0geoff > > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > From eunah.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 22:29:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B573A6B42 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:29:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMm07GjzGzmA for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-px0-f175.google.com (mail-px0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F353A6824 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi5 with SMTP id 5so1121590pxi.29 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:29:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VazSDDFNxrD5REneZN6WRKMAR43bKJ/hW5hVm/TffDc=; b=OCrOCtint94uOv+rb6aFqey4YbOA5yQpsThlV30buRGQsWpfMcczq0mhRM8nksPq5v Cj/oa8rwN6a9ZfnjJf9X6WbRx3piKrauvbqS4ght5T+0OuarJOCA8sjialtOltnrr2ea Z57zKnn0u9tRq/by6VAvneFxMhH+nFglH9oaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dsQ3hk+Hj6Mg3THsIy/OKOIkP2MvrNQQB/x5A2kH15w/7v0KYUwxxoPoxtCcwn/4sm xeZhS3+WcW4NpIqKvgoQPQbn47+b2ME8vFA0i6m0Zl8EZqozNFjPxbzmMtKmGKKSq+G4 UKE5xGdgndCW1c3IBpl2zdO7NBPZLc6OFuV0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.12.14 with SMTP id 14mr2168722wfl.161.1247030962156; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:29:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> References: <1246902874.25407.234.camel@dellx1> <85A36850-21B3-4815-809F-3D3FBE9DDB61@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:22 +0900 Message-ID: <77f1dba80907072229u71dd1d5fq4ae5d2e121129492@mail.gmail.com> From: "Eunsook \"Eunah\" Kim" To: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:29:23 -0000 Dear Carsten, While I was absent for a long while, it seemed that many productive discussion was made in 6lowpan. I'm now busy reading the accumulated emails, and found the Bar Bof information. Maybe i missed some imfortant information related to the meeting as I didn't catch up all 6lowpan emails yet, but if you still have space, I would like to join to the Bar BoF. See you. -eunah On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> I would like to request a slot for the 6LoWPAN SNMP optimizations >> draft if possible. > > More generally, I'd think we should discuss the relationship between 6lowpan > and the 6lowapps problem, but leave the apps-specific part to the Bar BOF, > which seems to materialize on Tuesday evening. > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp > > Gruesse, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > From pratikvimal.tech@gmail.com Wed Jul 8 04:28:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE643A6F17 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.175, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jcK0YBYJx2Op for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f226.google.com (mail-gx0-f226.google.com [209.85.217.226]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01828C571 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26so3021783gxk.13 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:28:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/xrJ9hpqCNID1h4m97fVwzNSwgw59nzRqRxjOA6IGi8=; b=YMwe8kqtt5HTbyo7SKPqBSxJ4H6i98RznsACqBIL/vbFAT6mN+s0g2kV8ks5vHeDSj VLF6StGiwg53AHBIv2TZr+fcQU096SmFJtEUN57cLBOry4nqlERLdZXGWCqOIfwJbiJV nrbps4B9CaRBBa/WfvJgtQt1VHjtMGWexvy0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n2Ku6MY1hE/xeAguUQqKL/WjqWC4wHqA+rKlxW+eBR7Rgd4QKCxncq732yy2NJvNTU +/Z8Og4rOiXY1ZSKdNyeY4olw4Odr7dolplj8ozQgMIcN/Mj1CtFt8dybn95I8o/bT1X CoNgqfnhTXJoHs/etbUZ1AVX2KAIFsKdDkzKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.137 with SMTP id h9mr2559976ibd.15.1247052521857; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:28:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8b5e90670907080427o678994bbsff4fc4df79df7325@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b5e90670907080427o678994bbsff4fc4df79df7325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:58:41 +0530 Message-ID: <8b5e90670907080428l7d7d0b89t54a25befc08713ce@mail.gmail.com> From: Pratik Vimal To: 6lowpan@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325575e5e94e478046e300a2f Subject: [6lowpan] 6LowPAN implementation-> compilation and simulation error X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:28:44 -0000 --000325575e5e94e478046e300a2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, When I'm giving the command "make micaz" in 6LowPAN implementation folder( http://tinyos.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tinyos/tinyos-2.x/tos/lib/net/6lowpan/) , then I'm getting the following error: make: *** No rule to make target `micaz'. Stop. Is there some problem with the code? Please let me know how to solve this problem. Regards, Pratik Vimal --------------------------------------------------------------- Pratik Vimal Third Year Undergraduate Department of Electrical Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur, India Kanpur - 208016 0091-9616242095 (phone) pvimal@iitk.ac.in (e-mail) --------------------------------------------------------------- --000325575e5e94e478046e300a2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,
When I'm giving the command "= make micaz" in 6LowPAN implementation folder(http://tinyos.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tinyos/tinyos-2.x/tos/= lib/net/6lowpan/) , then I'm getting the following error:
make: *** No rule to make target `micaz'.=A0 Stop.
=A0
Is there s= ome problem with the code? Please let me know how to solve this problem.
Regards,
Pratik Vimal

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Pratik V= imal
Third Year Undergraduate
Department of Electrical EngineeringIndian Institute of Technology Kanpur, India
Kanpur - 208016

=A00091-9616242095=A0 (phone)
pvimal@iitk.ac.in=A0(e-mail)
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--000325575e5e94e478046e300a2f-- From cabo@tzi.org Wed Jul 8 04:46:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9993A6A16 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:46:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qScw40QojZxC for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740C33A63C9 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:46:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n68BkUu7023310; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:46:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.107] (p5489AF17.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.175.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF17B215; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:46:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann To: Pratik Vimal In-Reply-To: <8b5e90670907080428l7d7d0b89t54a25befc08713ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b5e90670907080427o678994bbsff4fc4df79df7325@mail.gmail.com> <8b5e90670907080428l7d7d0b89t54a25befc08713ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <3DE1F30C-21B8-4331-B8A3-BEE4547A2FA1@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:46:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] 6LowPAN implementation-> compilation and simulation error X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:46:14 -0000 Hi Pratik, for somebody working in standardization, it is always great to see implementation questions coming up. Unfortunately, this is a list about 6lowpan standardization, not where the 6lowpan implementers meet. Maybe you will have more luck asking this in a tinyos forum? Gruesse, Carsten From rstruik@certicom.com Wed Jul 8 11:30:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3129E3A6BD0 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUcFeBoL9trc for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cx296.800onemail.com (CX296.800onemail.com [209.171.54.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9743A6B7A for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EX13-N04.exchserver.com ([10.7.5.66]) by cx296.800onemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n68ITCYT030595; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:12 -0400 Received: from EX41.exchserver.com ([169.254.1.219]) by EX13-N04.exchserver.com ([10.7.40.180]) with mapi; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:11 -0400 From: Rene Struik To: Carsten Bormann Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:10 -0400 Thread-Topic: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm Thread-Index: Acnyp5Q7ux4+KDw6SyuTdD9rKcs22gAwBpEAAX+DwHABpPGVMA== Message-ID: <473C2CD540AC5141858AD4D50149C4B3BB00DC@EX41.exchserver.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRXEFW-Info: Please contact Ceryx for more information X-CRXEFW-Virus: Clean X-CRXEFW-From: rstruik@certicom.com Cc: "6lowpan@ietf.org" <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Agenda for Stockholm X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:30:01 -0000 Dear Geoff, Carsten: I would like to request a slot for a short discussion on 802.15.4e during I= ETF 75 (not sure what the process for requesting agenda slots is). Best regards, Rene -----Original Message----- From: Rene Struik=20 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:35 PM To: 'Carsten Bormann' Subject: RE: IETF 75 meeting, Stockholm, Sweden Hi Carsten: Thanks. Indeed, such a short presentation would mainly serve as to making p= eople aware of some current work with 802.15.4e to broaden applicability in= target applications, with pointers to those documents. Idea would also to = provoke some feedback as to whether this makes sense/is useful/sufficient, = etc, also for future use with 6lowpan et al. Not sure what IETF usually doe= s, but such a presentation should not take too much time. Best regards,=20 Rene -----Original Message----- From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]=20 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:36 PM To: Rene Struik Cc: Rene Struik Subject: Re: IETF 75 meeting, Stockholm, Sweden Rene -- did you get my answer? (It seemed to me you had some email trouble.) Gruesse, Carsten On Jun 16, 2009, at 19:55, Rene Struik wrote: > I may be in Stockholm. Great! > Do you think it would have merit to discuss > some of the anticipated IEEE 802.15.4e features there? Most definitely. This probably should be a short presentation, =20 prepared by some pointers to things that were sent to the list =20 beforehand, with some time for questions/discussion. We won't have =20 time to go into things at a tutorial level of detail. > Would 6lowpan > be the best group for this? Is my assessment correct that this would be the group most affected =20 by .4e? If yes, I think so. In particular since one of the objectives for the meeting is to decide =20 on what we want to take up for the next round of rechartering. Gruesse, Carsten From geoff@mulligan.com Thu Jul 9 04:19:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063903A6BB9 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:19:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id miH5Cw2dFR7B for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sobek.data102.com (sobek.data102.com [64.111.16.14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4730C3A691A for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.data102.com [127.0.0.1]) by sobek.data102.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC4D22832; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #27: Update Terminology X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:47:07 -0000 #27: Update Terminology -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- Reporter: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com | Owner: Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: usecases | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- Changes (by eunah.ietf@gmail.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: solved at -03 -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From eunah.ietf@gmail.com Thu Jul 9 05:52:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA693A6963 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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Please give your comment on the revised version. As we discussed in the last SF meeting, we hope it goes to WGLC. Thanks, -eunah ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:44 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-usecases-03 To: eunah.ietf@gmail.com Cc: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com, nicolas.chevrollier@tno.nl, jpv@cisco.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-usecases-03.txt has been successfuly submitted by Eunsook Kim and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-6lowpan-usecases Revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A003 Title: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Design and Application Spaces for 6LoWPANs Creation_date: =A0 2009-07-09 WG ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6lowpan Number_of_pages: 31 Abstract: This document investigates potential application scenarios and use cases for low-power wireless personal area networks (LoWPANs). =A0This document provides dimensions of design space for LoWPAN applications. A list of use cases and market domains that may benefit and motivate the work currently done in the 6LoWPAN WG is provided with the characterisitcis of each dimention. =A0A complete list of practical use cases is not the goal of this document. The IETF Secretariat. From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jul 11 05:50:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ADE3A694F for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:50:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJDzBYdCCpr5 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20583A6818 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MPc2w-0006Zr-S3; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:51:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:51:18 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/41#comment:1 Message-ID: <069.63c08e5cceb0b33e1eedc075d7e94316@tools.ietf.org> References: <060.30ed37719484f706f8037f56df1bcd25@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 41 In-Reply-To: <060.30ed37719484f706f8037f56df1bcd25@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #41: Ad-hoc LoWPAN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:50:51 -0000 #41: Ad-hoc LoWPAN --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Decided to keep the term "Ad-hoc LoWPAN" but to clarify that the operation enabled there is identical to Simple or Extended LoWPAN operation. Moved Ad-hoc LoWPAN to Section 7 together with other LoWPAN operation definition. Moved ULA definition to the Simple LoWPAN section as it is useful in general when a global IPv6 prefix is not available. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jul 11 05:54:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CD83A692B for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:54:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nswF0owfhedF for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCE33A6835 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #35: 6LoWPAN Prefix Information Option, Length X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:54:33 -0000 #35: 6LoWPAN Prefix Information Option, Length --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed in nd-04. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jul 11 05:56:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D911A3A6835 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #36: Address Option: S=2 never makes sense. X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:56:20 -0000 #36: Address Option: S=2 never makes sense. --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: S=2 is now removed in nd-04. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jul 11 05:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC3B3A6835 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #39: Address and OII collision text X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:57:53 -0000 #39: Address and OII collision text --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: cabo@tzi.org Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * owner: pthubert@cisco.com => cabo@tzi.org -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jul 11 06:02:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F98D3A6982 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #37: Remove "stateless" wording where possible X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:02:29 -0000 #37: Remove "stateless" wording where possible --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: closed Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Removed one instance of statless with regard to short address generation by the ER. "Stateless Address Autoconfiguration" is used 4 times in the document, and those are preserved. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 04:15:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476AC3A67B3 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i9a+QsvtjKYN for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A761B3A69E2 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #39: Address and OII collision text X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:15:41 -0000 #39: Address and OII collision text --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: cabo@tzi.org Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Improved with an Owner Nonce in nd-04. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 04:45:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B0B3A68FD for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #38: Forming addresses - mention more methods X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:45:29 -0000 #38: Forming addresses - mention more methods --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed in nd-04. "A node MAY alternatively aquire a global unicast address using other suitable means, e.g. DHCPv6, L2 assignment or manual configuration." -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 05:14:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575EB3A699E for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C6jomXFPvLmx for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86D93A6857 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #40: Whiteboard description X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:14:26 -0000 #40: Whiteboard description --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: closed Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: worksforme Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => worksforme Comment: Checked through the text going into nd-04, and didn't find anything irrelevant about the Whiteboard description. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 05:14:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EF33A68AB for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #42: OII formation X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:14:50 -0000 #42: OII formation --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed in nd-04. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 05:41:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12103A68A6 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #43: NR/NC option clarification X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:41:59 -0000 #43: NR/NC option clarification --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: zach@sensinode.com Type: task | Status: closed Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Added in nd-04. "When performing Node Registration through a LoWPAN Router, the actual ER is transparent to the node by default (the router chooses the best ER). In order to provide nodes the possibility to control which ER they register with, Target link-layer and Source link-layer address options are used with NR/NC messages. LoWPAN Routers include a Source link-layer address option when relaying an NC to a node, this indicates the IID of the ER. When sending an NR to a LoWPAN Router, a node may choose to include a Target link-layer address option with the IID of the ER the node wants to register with. The router then attempts to make use of that ER if available." -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 12:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F78528C18C for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMQQ29Yh8ZMj for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC50028C174 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQ4z1-0006Pd-IP; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:45:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: zach@sensinode.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:45:11 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/30#comment:3 Message-ID: <069.32e3570df031b2b3a5103a892fa4b781@tools.ietf.org> References: <060.1286d749416d2d2d1418cbac0db75f19@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 30 In-Reply-To: <060.1286d749416d2d2d1418cbac0db75f19@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: zach@sensinode.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #30: IP forwarding examples X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:44:42 -0000 #30: IP forwarding examples --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: wontfix Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => wontfix Comment: This doesn't really fit into an ND draft.. Better explained e.g. in a ROLL draft as this is really a forwarding/routing issue. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Sun Jul 12 13:10:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98B73A6C68 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YX+DtFnDPhuQ for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242483A6C66 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #44: RA dissemination X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:10:14 -0000 #44: RA dissemination --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: zach@sensinode.com | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: nd | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by zach@sensinode.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: New subsection added to nd-04 on this issue. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From zach@sensinode.com Sun Jul 12 13:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D3128C1AD for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uz5dGljxFGr8 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from auth-smtp.nebula.fi (auth-smtp.nebula.fi [217.30.180.105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5FA28C19D for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snl-zach.local (line-7626.dyn.kponet.fi [85.29.76.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.nebula.fi (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6CKf4U5028816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:41:05 +0300 Message-ID: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:42:05 +0300 From: Zach Shelby User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04] X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:40:41 -0000 Hi, A new version of draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd is now available: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt I will present this in Stockholm, if there are any issues you want me to particularly touch on during the WG meeting, please drop me an e-mail. Changes since -03: o Moved Ad-hoc LoWPAN operation to Section 7 and made ULA prefix generation a features useful also in Simple and Extended LoWPANs. (#41) o Added a 32-bit Owner Nonce to the NR/NC messages and the Whiteboard, removed the TID history. (#39) o Improved the duplicate OII detection algorithm using the Owner Nonce. (#39) o Clarified the use of Source and Target link-layer options in NR/NC. (#43) o Included text on the use of alternative methods to acquire addresses. (#38) o Removed S=2 from Address Option (not needed). (#36) o Added a section on router dissemination consistency. (#44) o Small improvements and extensive editing. (#42, #37, #35) - Zach -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: zach@sensinode.com CC: pthubert@cisco.com,jhui@archrock.com,samitac@ipinfusion.com,Erik.Nordmark@Sun.COM A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt has been successfuly submitted by Zach Shelby and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd Revision: 04 Title: 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery Creation_date: 2009-07-12 WG ID: 6lowpan Number_of_pages: 56 Abstract: This document specifies Neighbor Discovery optimized for 6LoWPAN. The 6LoWPAN format allows IPv6 to be used over energy and bandwidth constrained wireless networks often making use of multihop topologies. However, the use of standard IPv6 Neighbor Discovery with 6LoWPAN has several problems. Standard Neighbor Discovery was not designed for non-transitive wireless links, and the standard IPv6 link concept and heavy use of multicast makes it inefficient. This document specifies a new ND mechanism allowing for the efficient detection of duplicate addresses over entire LoWPANs, which also optimizes other ND operations. In addition context dissemination, claim and defend address generation, and the support of Extended LoWPANs over Backbone Links are specified. The IETF Secretariat. -- http://www.sensinode.com http://zachshelby.org - My blog “On the Internet of Things” Mobile: +358 40 7796297 Zach Shelby Head of Research Sensinode Ltd. Kidekuja 2 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 13 05:50:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E042E3A6D96 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:50:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yoeXkQ+uIYqw for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05643A6D5B for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MQKzJ-0006qP-Ga; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:50:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:50:33 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/26#comment:1 Message-ID: <074.30e72016967ed1252a635b7ed8bffeff@tools.ietf.org> References: <065.3cd835f5bd96737d040c43d1cd8723eb@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 26 In-Reply-To: <065.3cd835f5bd96737d040c43d1cd8723eb@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #26: Error in calculating the avg. packet transmissions X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:50:06 -0000 #26: Error in calculating the avg. packet transmissions -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- Reporter: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com | Owner: Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: routing-requirements | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | -------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- Changes (by dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From wassim.haddad@ericsson.com Mon Jul 13 10:02:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887F128C564 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA03DB.CC1A765E" Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <941D5DCD8C42014FAF70FB7424686DCF0582B9D6@eusrcmw721.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 6lowpan security analysis Thread-Index: AcoD28v6qoVwq+kfQH6VxJ5/lzEzsQ== From: "Wassim Haddad" To: <6lowpan@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2009 17:03:09.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC414070:01CA03DB] Subject: [6lowpan] 6lowpan security analysis X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:02:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA03DB.CC1A765E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I've submitted a new version of the 6lowpan security analysis: Title : IPv6 over Low Power WPAN Security Analysis Author(s) : S. Park, et al. Filename : draft-daniel-6lowpan-security-analysis-03.txt=20 A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-daniel-6lowpan-security-analysi= s-03.txt=20 Comments are welcome! Regards, Wassim H. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA03DB.CC1A765E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 6lowpan security analysis

Dear all,

I've submitted a new version of the = 6lowpan security analysis:

Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : IPv6 over = Low Power WPAN Security Analysis
Author(s) =A0 : S. Park, et al.
Filename =A0 : draft-daniel-6lowpan-security-analysis-03.txt =

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-daniel-6lowpan-security-analysis-03.txt=20


Comments are welcome!


Regards,

Wassim H.

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA03DB.CC1A765E-- From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 13 14:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC08828C37E; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id weUFKJQYUOd9; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC8A28C36C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6DLFtvs004933; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.107] (p5489C4F4.dip.t-dialin.net [84.137.196.244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C39B607; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <827B8C0A-667E-441B-8396-D33FF007A7A0@tzi.org> From: Carsten Bormann To: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org>, apps-discuss@ietf.org, ROLL WG In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:15:54 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [6lowpan] 6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:15:36 -0000 Based on the extensive feedback I got for the 6LowApp Bar BOF, I have slightly extended the problem statement: http://u.nu/2bfj = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bormann-6lowpan-6lowapp-problem-01.txt Thanks to all the additional contributors. (I don't agree with all their comments, but I tried to err on the side of capturing as many requirements as possible.) The Bar BOF is still scheduled at ->Tue 18:30<-. I'm going to ask the ADs for a room so we can hear each other (and maybe use a projector). Again, please tell me if you want a slot in the structured part. Even after the I-D deadline, you can continue to capture information at the Bar BOF Wiki: http://u.nu/6jfh = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp Gruesse, Carsten On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:56, Carsten Bormann wrote: > The 6LoWPAN and ROLL WGs are laying the groundwork to make the > Wireless Embedded Internet a reality, but what application protocols > will we use? Request-response protocols like HTTP are a poor fit to > a communication model with battery-operated, mostly sleeping nodes. > In addition, the usual data formats (both headers and body) are > perceived to be too chatty for the 50-60 byte payloads possible in > LoWPANs and to require too much code for the 8-bit and 16-bit > processors dominating the Internet of Things. Still, it would be a > mistake to start a new silo of application protocols that do not > benefit from existing application area Internet experience. > > At IETF75, we will hold a Bar BOF to scope out possible IETF work > and maybe form an opinion on which part should be done in which IETF > area. > > Tentative information is at http://u.nu/6jfh = > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF75/6LowApp > (and you are welcome to contribute to this Wiki page). > > -> Please tell us whether the envisaged date and time of ->Tue > 18:30<- will work for you! > > A first version of a problem statement (where the above paragraph > was stolen from) is at: > > http://tools.ietf.org/id/6lowapp > (draft-bormann-6lowpan-6lowapp-problem-00.txt) > > I will start planning an agenda for the Bar BOF soon, so if you have > something to say that would help in this conversation, please tell > me (with an estimated amount of time). > > Gruesse, Carsten From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 13 15:06:07 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Message-ID: <18a603a60907160933j48404be5vfdcd2a148d66a873@mail.gmail.com> From: Pars Mutaf To: 6lowpan@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [6lowpan] Edge router crash, reboot or new edge router X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:40:13 -0000 Hello, I have some doubts about the 6lowpan ND protocol, concerning its reliablity. I believe understand the motivations behind avoiding broadcast NS messages upon incoming session. However, what happens if the whiteboard approach fails i.e. if whiteboard bindings are lost due to edge router crash, reboot or changing the edge router for whatever administrative reason? Is there any countermeasure for this scenario? Note that standard ND is costly but perfectly handles such a situation. A related question: how frequent you believe broadcast NS messages (i.e. incoming sessions) will be in a 6lowpan network? Or, sessions will be mostly initiated by 6lowpan nodes? Regards, pars From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 20 00:34:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F59A3A6A24 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sylbE0shba8j for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D98A3A6B6A for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:34:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6K7YPQD011154 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:34:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wlan-client-305.informatik.uni-bremen.de (wlan-client-305.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.117.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B39B71D; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:33:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <42BB33BD-F089-42D3-B71F-AFC60215900C@tzi.org> From: Carsten Bormann To: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:33:57 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: [6lowpan] Agenda pre-bash X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:34:43 -0000 LoWPANners, the 6lowpan agenda for our Tuesday, 2009-07-28 meeting is up at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/agenda/6lowpan.txt Linkified at: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/agenda Please review this and send updates to the chairs. Did I miss anyone? Is the allotted time OK? (Who was it that wanted to present another quick update on a related standards group? I seem to have lost the details.) Gruesse, Carsten From hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Mon Jul 20 19:33:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3433328C16B for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.847 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.847 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ttq7HAYa53d0 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2569E3A6DF5 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so1268065anc.4 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e3ZJJvHi5q/wQHfEuCnNy7EDGXobWDn1Qiacj9ODFGw=; b=tgj4s5LMzuFO1Qb3D2P3HZTm7R0CNE+CsbATp6j/2NuJLmqHB7jk736seRQ4zUiGKy LWJTNZAan6TeF1Ly7SbZ9091h0b7Lpdd+j6ujH37vYU6nqNLW+MI5y052svOEfbpxPuo HrBKWK1v6wvkEx88bAMh8qpG5wZxsYEul4fZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bZePi7IaD2DEJ3gruhae37L8l6YE3XXNdwoOr+DPLWoW7PJadLBfG6mKhB5SnoBcPH MDhWldh0m886EbRlAWfH2/4F/EeqqLqwXofcnFebZfb991fbxgKh886vKSaaDaH4ZH9B wlNYa6Utr/IkUfaK8jJ/P67gLkLYfChOLfAXE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hamid.mukhtar@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr7167436anb.166.1248143589083; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> References: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> From: Hamid Mukhtar Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:32:54 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 30073e8df8f33a4b Message-ID: To: Zach Shelby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04] X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:33:21 -0000 Dear Zach, I had a few queries=A0on the current ND. Firstly, what are the assumed capabilities of the 6LoWPAN Routers (the forwarding devices), are they supposed to have more memory than the end devices or are they assumed to be static or main-powered.=A0I presume they are not deployed for the sole purpose of forwarding. Moreover, is=A0the availability of a router in every 6LoWPAN link assumed ? Secondly, is the use of Neighbor and destination cache optional for the 6LoWPAN node in the new ND. Lastly, I guess some elaboration is needed for the routing of ER_ANYCAST. Is it assumed that the ROLL routing protocol, once they have a consensus over it, or some other routing protocol would be in place for that? Thanks, Hamid On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zach Shelby wrote: > > Hi, > > A new version of draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd is now available: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt > > I will present this in Stockholm, if there are any issues you want me to = particularly touch on during the WG meeting, please drop me an e-mail. > > =A0 Changes since -03: > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Moved Ad-hoc LoWPAN operation to Section 7 and made ULA pref= ix > =A0 =A0 =A0generation a features useful also in Simple and Extended LoWPA= Ns. > =A0 =A0 =A0(#41) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Added a 32-bit Owner Nonce to the NR/NC messages and the > =A0 =A0 =A0Whiteboard, removed the TID history. (#39) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Improved the duplicate OII detection algorithm using the Own= er > =A0 =A0 =A0Nonce. (#39) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Clarified the use of Source and Target link-layer options in > =A0 =A0 =A0NR/NC. (#43) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Included text on the use of alternative methods to acquire > =A0 =A0 =A0addresses. (#38) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Removed S=3D2 from Address Option (not needed). (#36) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Added a section on router dissemination consistency. (#44) > > =A0 =A0 =A0o Small improvements and extensive editing. (#42, #37, #35) > > - Zach > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04 > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: IETF I-D Submission Tool > To: zach@sensinode.com > CC: pthubert@cisco.com,jhui@archrock.com,samitac@ipinfusion.com,Erik.Nord= mark@Sun.COM > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt has been successfuly s= ubmitted by Zach Shelby and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd > Revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A004 > Title: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery > Creation_date: =A0 2009-07-12 > WG ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6lowpan > Number_of_pages: 56 > > Abstract: > This document specifies Neighbor Discovery optimized for 6LoWPAN. > The 6LoWPAN format allows IPv6 to be used over energy and bandwidth > constrained wireless networks often making use of multihop > topologies. =A0However, the use of standard IPv6 Neighbor Discovery > with 6LoWPAN has several problems. =A0Standard Neighbor Discovery was > not designed for non-transitive wireless links, and the standard IPv6 > link concept and heavy use of multicast makes it inefficient. =A0This > document specifies a new ND mechanism allowing for the efficient > detection of duplicate addresses over entire LoWPANs, which also > optimizes other ND operations. =A0In addition context dissemination, > claim and defend address generation, and the support of Extended > LoWPANs over Backbone Links are specified. > > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > > > -- > http://www.sensinode.com > http://zachshelby.org - My blog =93On the Internet of Things=94 > Mobile: +358 40 7796297 > > Zach Shelby > Head of Research > Sensinode Ltd. > Kidekuja 2 > 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND > > This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain le= gally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please= contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producin= g, distributing or retaining copies thereof. > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan From richard.kelsey@ember.com Wed Jul 22 09:08:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34FA3A684D for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:08:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yaY55a45gc9l for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EMPIRE.hq.ember.com (mail.ember.com [74.10.175.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463773A6AEF for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kelsey-ws.hq.ember.com ([192.168.81.60]) by EMPIRE.hq.ember.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:07:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:07:05 -0400 Message-Id: <874ot466s6.fsf@kelsey-ws.hq.ember.com> To: Zach Shelby In-reply-to: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> (message from Zach Shelby on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:42:05 +0300) From: Richard Kelsey References: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 16:07:09.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[77882F50:01CA0AE6] Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04] X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:08:58 -0000 Zach, > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:42:05 +0300 > From: Zach Shelby > > A new version of draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd is now available: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt > > I will present this in Stockholm, if there are any issues you want me to > particularly touch on during the WG meeting, please drop me an e-mail. > > Changes since -03: > > o Moved Ad-hoc LoWPAN operation to Section 7 and made ULA prefix > generation a features useful also in Simple and Extended LoWPANs. > (#41) > > o Added a 32-bit Owner Nonce to the NR/NC messages and the > Whiteboard, removed the TID history. (#39) > > o Improved the duplicate OII detection algorithm using the Owner > Nonce. (#39) I skimmed through the changes and they are definitely an improvement. Using a nonce is simpler and more foolproof than the TID history, and uses less RAM as well. Given the reduced reliance on the TID, perhaps it could be a single byte. The 32-bit valid lifetime field in the Prefix Information Option definitely seems like overkill. That is a lot of precision. Saving space in the ND options may not matter a lot, given how rarely they are sent, but reducing the size of a whiteboard entry would be good. -Richard Kelsey From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 27 02:07:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772F13A6C3A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:07:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gKmgVUPG6hS3; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085BF3A6C3C; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6R973QK026832; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-161d.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-161d.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.22.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DEEB9B5; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <71C22460-1734-47D6-B7D4-C3A6D272CD42@tzi.org> From: Carsten Bormann To: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:06:57 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: ROLL WG , 6lowpan@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] 6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:07:17 -0000 The 6LowApp BOF is scheduled for Tue 18:30 at Room 202, see http://u.nu/6jfh I have been asked about the conflict with the social event at Tue evening. The idea is that we will take about an hour for structured discussion. At around 19:30, we will move to a more Bar-BOFy style. Those who want to go to the social will be able to then -- we will find out whether there still will be buses at that time or whether Taxis will be shared. So the Wireless Embedded Internet sub-schedule at IETF 75 for tomorrow, Tue 28, is: 0900-1130 6lowpan INT Cabaret 1520-1810 roll RTG Congresshall C 1830-19xx 6lowapp (APP) Room 202 Gruesse, Carsten From zach@sensinode.com Mon Jul 27 05:02:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0C28C0ED for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:02:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MQk1FOFiACDY for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from auth-smtp.nebula.fi (auth-smtp.nebula.fi [217.30.180.105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136C03A6848 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host-78-64-88-165.homerun.telia.com (host-78-64-88-165.homerun.telia.com [78.64.88.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.nebula.fi (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6RC1uiI027677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:01:56 +0300 Message-ID: <4A6D9736.7080700@sensinode.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:01:58 +0300 From: Zach Shelby User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pars Mutaf References: <18a603a60907160933j48404be5vfdcd2a148d66a873@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <18a603a60907160933j48404be5vfdcd2a148d66a873@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Edge router crash, reboot or new edge router X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:02:01 -0000 Hi Pars, Pars Mutaf wrote: > I believe understand the motivations behind avoiding broadcast NS messages > upon incoming session. However, what happens if the whiteboard approach fails > i.e. if whiteboard bindings are lost due to edge router crash, reboot > or changing > the edge router for whatever administrative reason? This is a good question. As whiteboards have soft state, and nodes refresh the addresses they are using periodically, a whiteboard failure is not a disaster to the network. If an Edge Router crashes: 1. If the ER reboots without state - the next NR message will refresh the entries. It could be nice if the LoWPAN somehow knew that this happened (how?) to avoid waiting up to NR_PERIOD. At least its default route will stop working, that is an indication. 2. If the ER reboots and kept its whiteboard state (recommended) - then of course the ER can't forward on behalf of the node while down. Same for any router, so this isn't a whiteboard problem. 3. If the ER goes down permanently, then the node will detect this because its default route no longer works or the NR can no longer be sent to the ER. It either starts using an alternative ER or continues operating until a new ER comes on-line. In any case the LoWPAN can continue to operate while an ER is down (routing within the LoWPAN). In an extended LoWPAN nodes will start using alternative ERs automatically. Several techniques could be used by an ER vendor to automatically switch state to an alternative ER, use non-volatile memory for Whiteboard state, use secondary bindings etc. Section 7.9 of nd-04 deals with this partially: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04#section-7.9 > A related question: how frequent you believe broadcast NS messages > (i.e. incoming > sessions) will be in a 6lowpan network? Or, sessions will be mostly initiated by > 6lowpan nodes? We aren't using NS messages at all inside the LoWPAN. Node Registration messages are always node initiated. - Zach > Regards, > > pars > _______________________________________________ > 6lowpan mailing list > 6lowpan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan -- http://www.sensinode.com http://zachshelby.org - My blog “On the Internet of Things” Mobile: +358 40 7796297 Zach Shelby Head of Research Sensinode Ltd. Kidekuja 2 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. From zach@sensinode.com Mon Jul 27 06:50:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3A23A6C8F for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id muqToKG1Jy3f for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from auth-smtp.nebula.fi (auth-smtp.nebula.fi [217.30.180.105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A753A6970 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-54ed.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-54ed.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.84.237] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.nebula.fi (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6RDnu2C032525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:49:56 +0300 Message-ID: <4A6DB086.3030901@sensinode.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:49:58 +0300 From: Zach Shelby User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hamid Mukhtar References: <4A5A4A9D.30502@sensinode.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04] X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:50:09 -0000 Hi, Hamid Mukhtar wrote: > Dear Zach, > > I had a few queries on the current ND. > > Firstly, what are the assumed capabilities of the 6LoWPAN Routers (the > forwarding devices), are they supposed to have more memory than the > end devices or are they assumed to be static or main-powered. I > presume they are not deployed for the sole purpose of forwarding. > Moreover, is the availability of a router in every 6LoWPAN link > assumed ? Of course a LoWPAN router will need a bit more memory than a host, but this depends mostly on the routing protocol state needed. ND only requires some RA variables and prefix information to be stored in addition to normal host state. They do not necessarily need to be mains powered. Routers can of course act as hosts as well. > Secondly, is the use of Neighbor and destination cache optional for > the 6LoWPAN node in the new ND. The neighbor cache is required, but the number of entries is usually pretty small as these are nodes you communicate with in link-local scope. If you only communicate with your on-link router then you don't necessarily have any neighbor cache entries. The destination cache is a MAY - thus optional. > Lastly, I guess some elaboration is needed for the routing of > ER_ANYCAST. Is it assumed that the ROLL routing protocol, once they > have a consensus over it, or some other routing protocol would be in > place for that? It is assumed that a routing protocol knows how to deal with ER_ANYCAST. ND is agnostic to which routing protocol (if any) is used in the LoWPAN. ROLL is an obvious candidate for sure. - Zach > Thanks, > Hamid > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Zach Shelby wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A new version of draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd is now available: >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt >> >> I will present this in Stockholm, if there are any issues you want me to particularly touch on during the WG meeting, please drop me an e-mail. >> >> Changes since -03: >> >> o Moved Ad-hoc LoWPAN operation to Section 7 and made ULA prefix >> generation a features useful also in Simple and Extended LoWPANs. >> (#41) >> >> o Added a 32-bit Owner Nonce to the NR/NC messages and the >> Whiteboard, removed the TID history. (#39) >> >> o Improved the duplicate OII detection algorithm using the Owner >> Nonce. (#39) >> >> o Clarified the use of Source and Target link-layer options in >> NR/NC. (#43) >> >> o Included text on the use of alternative methods to acquire >> addresses. (#38) >> >> o Removed S=2 from Address Option (not needed). (#36) >> >> o Added a section on router dissemination consistency. (#44) >> >> o Small improvements and extensive editing. (#42, #37, #35) >> >> - Zach >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04 >> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) >> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >> To: zach@sensinode.com >> CC: pthubert@cisco.com,jhui@archrock.com,samitac@ipinfusion.com,Erik.Nordmark@Sun.COM >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-04.txt has been successfuly submitted by Zach Shelby and posted to the IETF repository. >> >> Filename: draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd >> Revision: 04 >> Title: 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery >> Creation_date: 2009-07-12 >> WG ID: 6lowpan >> Number_of_pages: 56 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies Neighbor Discovery optimized for 6LoWPAN. >> The 6LoWPAN format allows IPv6 to be used over energy and bandwidth >> constrained wireless networks often making use of multihop >> topologies. However, the use of standard IPv6 Neighbor Discovery >> with 6LoWPAN has several problems. Standard Neighbor Discovery was >> not designed for non-transitive wireless links, and the standard IPv6 >> link concept and heavy use of multicast makes it inefficient. This >> document specifies a new ND mechanism allowing for the efficient >> detection of duplicate addresses over entire LoWPANs, which also >> optimizes other ND operations. In addition context dissemination, >> claim and defend address generation, and the support of Extended >> LoWPANs over Backbone Links are specified. >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat. >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.sensinode.com >> http://zachshelby.org - My blog “On the Internet of Things” >> Mobile: +358 40 7796297 >> >> Zach Shelby >> Head of Research >> Sensinode Ltd. >> Kidekuja 2 >> 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND >> >> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. >> _______________________________________________ >> 6lowpan mailing list >> 6lowpan@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan -- http://www.sensinode.com http://zachshelby.org - My blog “On the Internet of Things” Mobile: +358 40 7796297 Zach Shelby Head of Research Sensinode Ltd. Kidekuja 2 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system without producing, distributing or retaining copies thereof. From cabo@tzi.org Mon Jul 27 08:27:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B33A6B0D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tfXF4NxU8N7Y; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9:209:3dff:fe00:7136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E273A6AD4; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RFQxEL028768; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-52ef.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.82.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E7CBC09; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <7101F1BF-3003-42B0-BDE6-0502399CF988@tzi.org> From: Carsten Bormann To: ROLL WG , 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org>, apps-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <71C22460-1734-47D6-B7D4-C3A6D272CD42@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:26:24 +0200 References: <71C22460-1734-47D6-B7D4-C3A6D272CD42@tzi.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [6lowpan] 6LowApp: Application protocols for 6LoWPAN and other LLN X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:27:07 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:06, Carsten Bormann wrote: > the conflict with the social event Sorry for tricasting once more, but this is *important information*: -- the last bus to the social will leave at 7:30 PM from in front of the Clarion Sign and will wait for us. We are a big enough group that it was OK. (Obviously, not all of us *will* go to the social; happy discussions await the rest.) -- for those who asked what the "Bar" in the "Bar BOF" was about, this seems to be a variant spelling of "beer", and indeed there will be some beer available for the participants of the Bar BOF, sponsored by an entity very interested in progress on the 6lowapp problem. As I said, important information! See you tomorrow at 1830. Gruesse, Carsten From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 27 14:04:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF3E3A6A84 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id STB+hiL0KK9T for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5184F3A6A35 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVXN5-0003uH-Vq; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: jhui@archrock.com X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:04:35 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://svn.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/32#comment:1 Message-ID: <063.9419feec1fe55010a4980d774c64d7a7@tools.ietf.org> References: <054.8579aa141755ec07ce8c2182175eeeb0@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 32 In-Reply-To: <054.8579aa141755ec07ce8c2182175eeeb0@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jhui@archrock.com, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #32: "default context" is not defined X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:04:35 -0000 #32: "default context" is not defined --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: hc | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by jhui@archrock.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Specified default context ID to be 0. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 27 14:05:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273623A67E3 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #34: M/DAC/DAM = 1 1 01 incomprehensible X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:05:23 -0000 #34: M/DAC/DAM = 1 1 01 incomprehensible --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Component: hc | Version: Severity: - | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Changes (by jhui@archrock.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Made encoding of prefix-based multicast addresses more explicit by labeling each nibble. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From trac@tools.ietf.org Mon Jul 27 14:06:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F703A6CB6 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #33: SAC/SAM = 0 11 not fully defined X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:06:01 -0000 #33: SAC/SAM = 0 11 not fully defined --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: trivial | Milestone: Component: hc | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Changes (by jhui@archrock.com): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Clearly stated that the value of those bits are the link-local prefix padded with zeros. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Tue Jul 28 05:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B883A6F2F for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHTQh1KN7XCx for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D7D3A6F2E for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1752EC0051 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:32:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QI-YKLY2HIH4; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A36C0052; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 469B3B6EE1C; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:32:21 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: 6lowpan@ietf.org Message-ID: <20090728123221.GA12082@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: [6lowpan] snmp message size calculation X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:32:46 -0000 Hi, I found a bug in my SNMP message size calculation and to make things transparent, I am posting the full details here - just in case someone wants to check what I did. Note that the calculation assumes no payload and messages are sent without security (noAuthNoPriv in SNMP speak). A very rough way to estimate the size needed by a varbind that is essentially a number is the following formula: varbind-size = 6 + number-of-OID-subidentifier That is for sysUpTime (1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3), we get 14 bytes and thus the SNMPv1 message is 34 bytes and the SNMPv3/USM message is 81 bytes. And here are the promised details of my calculation. * SNMPv3 minimum message size calculation SNMPv3Message 2 byte msgVersion 3 byte msgGlobalData (HeaderData) 15 byte msgSecurityParameters 23 byte msgData (ScopedPDU) 24 byte ------- 67 byte UsmSecurityParameters 2 byte msgAuthoritativeEngineID 7 byte msgAuthoritativeEngineBoots 3 byte msgAuthoritativeEngineTime 3 byte msgUserName 2 byte msgAuthenticationParameters 2 byte msgPrivacyParameters 2 byte ------- 21 byte HeaderData 2 byte msgID 3 byte msgMaxSize 4 byte msgFlags 3 byte msgSecurityModel 3 byte ------- 15 byte ScopedPDU 2 byte contextEngineID 7 byte contextName 2 byte PDU 13 byte ------- 24 byte PDU 2 byte request-id 3 byte error-status 3 byte error-index 3 byte variable-bindings 2 byte ------- 13 byte * SNMPv1 / SNMPv2c minimum mesage size calculation SNMPv1Message 2 byte version 3 byte community 2 byte data (PDU) 13 byte ------- 20 byte /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From eunah.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jul 28 09:06:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC8E3A70FE for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yy1A8cc8doUg for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f192.google.com (mail-pz0-f192.google.com [209.85.222.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4D23A70D8 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk30 with SMTP id 30so89837pzk.31 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sVVQ98Fgc9+MzzvCn7NOnJsR5WzGv9pA8rQiuX+8Pec=; b=Bg3YYjovfnVjyl7xeJ+Cn4QLsLfWvUl4QQSFeXlqabg/0jlgLHSngy9Jd5xgrKHLdS nj4g6PViMkjdmnQ9Uz0gLoSodj+HX8WaUoVFoJGTXeyyd0qTt84edoZCi8gmwf9d3kbp tHPF1n73EQu3kA/nhoo+hb7K5LZya3fO2nztQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B7/e6TLehTfKVgEk0FM52im31KvvHYOynThQrm9yIkFWt/U+raD+l2ZwZW82CEhlz4 O7iBu5ZjqnZ6pCVrKQNYBvqIZe6l9p3gI6hhKBNRflS9p62h6Jv87nH9rdS5S/6zV6hO NlXeTJqlBACiIubcOa9zn9zM/p8ft2RsnNB2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.158.6 with SMTP id g6mr7130920wae.145.1248797194483; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:06:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090728155727.E8EF33A7056@core3.amsl.com> References: <20090728155727.E8EF33A7056@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:06:34 +0200 Message-ID: <77f1dba80907280906m1cdda4adv82e32c5f19e99ef1@mail.gmail.com> From: "Eunsook \"Eunah\" Kim" To: 6lowpan <6lowpan@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [6lowpan] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-routing-requirements-04 X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:06:44 -0000 Dear 6lowpaners, The draft of 6lowpan routing requirements are revised to -04, applying the comments at the meeting. JP worries the term *routing* in adaptation layer, and Eric gave us a good terminology to use there. Now you will find the description under the figure to reduce the confusion between "IP routing" and "mesh-under path computation + forwarding". :-) I would like to point out again that the figure is to show the basic architecture based on RFC4944 and WG concensus so far. Please check the revised version and give your comments. -eunah ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-routing-requiremen= ts-04 To: eunah.ietf@gmail.com Cc: dokaspar.ietf@gmail.com, carlesgo@entel.upc.edu, cabo@tzi.org A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-routing-requirements-04.txt has been successfuly submitted by Eunsook Kim and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-6lowpan-routing-requirements Revision: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A004 Title: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Problem Statement and Requirements for 6LoWPAN R= outing Creation_date: =A0 2009-07-28 WG ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6lowpan Number_of_pages: 32 Abstract: 6LoWPANs are formed by devices that are compatible with the IEEE 802.15.4 standard. =A0However, neither the IEEE 802.15.4 standard nor the 6LoWPAN format specification define how mesh topologies could be obtained and maintained. =A0Thus, it should be considered how 6LoWPAN formation and multi-hop routing could be supported. This document provides the problem statement and design space for 6LoWPAN routing. =A0It defines the routing requirements for 6LoWPAN networks, considering the low-power and other particular characteristics of the devices and links. =A0The purpose of this document is not to recommend specific solutions, but to provide general, layer-agnostic guidelines about the design of 6LoWPAN routing, which can lead to further analysis and protocol design. This document is intended as input to groups working on routing protocols relevant to 6LoWPAN, such as the IETF ROLL WG. The IETF Secretariat. From trac@tools.ietf.org Tue Jul 28 09:17:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE883A7004 for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:17:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h9d1i8UV63sk for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1:214:22ff:fe1f:1e54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5373A6E9C for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVpMR-0005nb-BY; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:17:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "6lowpan issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.1, by Edgewall Software To: jhui@archrock.com, cabo@tzi.org X-Trac-Project: 6lowpan Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:07 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/6lowpan/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/trac/ticket/31#comment:2 Message-ID: <063.88ed040771d1a4189d4b35f3769d6bd1@tools.ietf.org> References: <054.b8b6042fec408c6ee0f707a06da01bb8@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 31 In-Reply-To: <054.b8b6042fec408c6ee0f707a06da01bb8@tools.ietf.org> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jhui@archrock.com, cabo@tzi.org, 6lowpan@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] #31: 011 11111 is in conflict with ESC; IANA actions X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Reply-To: 6lowpan@ietf.org List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:07 -0000 #31: 011 11111 is in conflict with ESC; IANA actions --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Reporter: cabo@tzi.org | Owner: jhui@archrock.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: hc | Version: Severity: Active WG Document | Resolution: Keywords: | --------------------------------+------------------------------------------- Comment(by cabo@tzi.org): I believe that the ESC dispatch value was created (and assigned this specific value) as a reserve for future expansion. This expansion has not yet occurred, so it is appropriate to reassign the value. The combination TF=11, NH=1, HLIM=11 is reasonably likely. Making an exception for this combination (even by assigning another value) creates code complexity. Moving the 32-value range to a different place requires a subtraction where now a bitmask suffices. The obvious replacement ESC value to choose is 01 000000. HC should include IANA language to reassign this value. Downside: An implementation that went ahead and actually implemented ESC with 4944 semantics will be confused by the next byte. However, any actual implementation of HC would take care not to make this mistake. -- Ticket URL: 6lowpan