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Hi,

last week we spent a day or so debugging why a TCP session on Contiki
stopped at a certain time to deliver data for about 3 seconds. We
ended up instrumenting various pieces of code with counters and
finally ended up with an issue in the 6lowpan code where the code
mistakenly believed it is in reassembly mode and hence it dropped
packets until the reassembly timer expired.  What really took us time
was that we had to instrument the code to in order to get an idea
where the packets were discarded (initially it was not even clear it
is the 6lowpan layer).

So I thought I write up a definition of a set of counters for the
6lowpan layer in the form of a MIB module - perhaps it is possible to
find agreement on the counters. For those scared by MIBs and SNMP, I
have included a JSON representation of the counters in the appendix,
based on translations that are in the making.

/js

On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 08:01:46AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
> 	Title           : Definition of Managed Objects for IPv6 over Low-Power Wireless Personal Area Networks (6LoWPANs)
> 	Author(s)       : Juergen Schoenwaelder
>                           Anuj Sehgal
>                           Tina Tsou
>                           Cathy Zhou
> 	Filename        : draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2012-07-04
> 
> Abstract:
>    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>    for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
>    In particular, it defines objects for managing IPv6 over Low-Power
>    Wireless Personal Area Networks (6LoWPANs).
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib
> 
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00
> 
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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To authors of <draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00>

I didn't go through the draft below, but reminded the previous work in
my memory due to a same subject in 6lowpan.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-01

Is it quite different ? Just curious.


Regards, Daniel.
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder
<j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> last week we spent a day or so debugging why a TCP session on Contiki
> stopped at a certain time to deliver data for about 3 seconds. We
> ended up instrumenting various pieces of code with counters and
> finally ended up with an issue in the 6lowpan code where the code
> mistakenly believed it is in reassembly mode and hence it dropped
> packets until the reassembly timer expired.  What really took us time
> was that we had to instrument the code to in order to get an idea
> where the packets were discarded (initially it was not even clear it
> is the 6lowpan layer).
>
> So I thought I write up a definition of a set of counters for the
> 6lowpan layer in the form of a MIB module - perhaps it is possible to
> find agreement on the counters. For those scared by MIBs and SNMP, I
> have included a JSON representation of the counters in the appendix,
> based on translations that are in the making.
>
> /js
>
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 08:01:46AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>
>>
>>       Title           : Definition of Managed Objects for IPv6 over Low-Power Wireless Personal Area Networks (6LoWPANs)
>>       Author(s)       : Juergen Schoenwaelder
>>                           Anuj Sehgal
>>                           Tina Tsou
>>                           Cathy Zhou
>>       Filename        : draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00.txt
>>       Pages           : 14
>>       Date            : 2012-07-04
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>>    for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
>>    In particular, it defines objects for managing IPv6 over Low-Power
>>    Wireless Personal Area Networks (6LoWPANs).
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> --
> Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
> Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany
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On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 09:16:07AM +0900, Daniel Park wrote:
> To authors of <draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00>
> 
> I didn't go through the draft below, but reminded the previous work in
> my memory due to a same subject in 6lowpan.
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-01
> 
> Is it quite different ? Just curious.

Yes. Read it.

/js

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On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 08:01:02AM +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 09:16:07AM +0900, Daniel Park wrote:
> > To authors of <draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-00>
> > 
> > I didn't go through the draft below, but reminded the previous work in
> > my memory due to a same subject in 6lowpan.
> > 
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-01
> > 
> > Is it quite different ? Just curious.
> 
> Yes. Read it.

To be more precise, our MIB proposal focuses on the functions provided
by the 6lowpan standard while draft-daniel-6lowpan-mib-01 more was a
blend of a 802.15.4 MIB with some mesh under stuff. But yes, read it
yourself.

/js

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Overall this is a good document and I support its approval. A few items
should be clarified before approval, please see below:=20

1. In the introduction:=20

>  In addition,
   IPv6 provides tools for autoconfiguration, which is particularly
   suitable for sensor network applications and nodes which have very
   limited processing power or a full-fledged operating system.

Did you actually mean to say 'nodes which have very limited processing
power or lack a full-fledged operating system'?=20

Also - what do you exactly mean by tools for autoconfiguration - is this
only about stateless IP-address autoconfiguration or (also) something
else?=20

2. In Section 2.1 - GAP stands for Generic Access Profile (as in the
text) or Generic Attribute Profile (as in the diagram)?=20

3. Section 2.3 we have=20

> ' A Bluetooth Smart device such as a sensor may use
   a public (obtained from IEEE Registration Authority) '

and then in 3.2.1=20


>  'The 48-bit public bluetooth
   address is globally unique and provided by the IEEE registration
   authority.'

These are slightly inaccurate. The individual addresses are not directly
assigned by the IEEE-RA. This authority only assigns OUIs to vendors
(first 24 bits of an address) which then are responsible on
administrating their own space (the last 24 bit) to generate unique
addresses. Actually another sentence in 2.3 gets it right when it says:=20

> ' The public address is created
   according to the IEEE 802-2001 standard [IEEE802-2001] and using a
   valid Organizationally Unique Identifier (OUI) obtained from the IEEE
   Registration Authority.  '

4. I do not believe that the requirement to BT SIG for the allocation of
an L2CAP channel ID needs to be mentioned in the IANA Considerations
section as it has nothing to do with IANA. =20

Regards,

Dan

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> Subject: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle-08.txt> (Transmission of
> IPv6Packets over Bluetooth Low Energy) to Proposed Standard
>=20
>=20
> The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 over Low power WPAN WG
> (6lowpan) to consider the following document:
> - 'Transmission of IPv6 Packets over Bluetooth Low Energy'
>   <draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle-08.txt> as Proposed Standard
>=20
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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> Abstract
>=20
>=20
>    Bluetooth Low Energy is a low power air interface technology
defined
>    by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (BT-SIG).  The standard
>    Bluetooth radio has been widely implemented and available in mobile
>    phones, notebook computers, audio headsets and many other devices.
>    The low power version of Bluetooth is a new specification and
enables
>    the use of this air interface with devices such as sensors, smart
>    meters, appliances, etc.  The low power variant of Bluetooth is
>    commonly specified in revision 4.0 of the Bluetooth specifications
>    and commonly refered to as Bluetooth 4.0.  This document describes
>    how IPv6 is transported over Bluetooth Low Energy using 6LoWPAN
>    techniques.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The file can be obtained via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle/
>=20
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>=20
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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#141: Donald Eastlake's DISCUSS comments on 6lowpan-nd

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 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Ticket close in r286.

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 Fixed #6 and #9.

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#135: IESG Editorial Comments


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 Fixed 10-21

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#135: IESG Editorial Comments

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Comment:

 Fixed 10-40

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#142: Stephen Farrel's Discuss comments

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Comment:

 Done in -19

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#138: Adrian Farrel's  DISCUSS comments and Suggestions


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 Done in -19

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#138: Adrian Farrel's  DISCUSS comments and Suggestions

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We have posted a new version of 6LoWPAN-ND, which the authors feel =
closes the editorial and technical issues related to the very thorough =
IESG review. We might still do some minor editing before Vancouver, =
which could result in another revision.

   Changes from -18 to -19:

      o Editorial improvements as a result of IESG comments (#135,
      #142).

      o Extended ABRO with longer version number and valid lifetime,
      while maintaining backward compatibility (#141).

      o Renamed optional features and described them as substitutable
      (#138).

One note to implementors that there was a technical change in this =
document that all existing implementors should be aware of. To solve a =
potential problem with ABRO version number locking, the Authoritative =
Border Router Option was extended with a 32-bit Version number and a new =
Valid Lifetime field. Although this was done in such a way so as to =
maintain backward compatibility, implementations should be updated to =
the final version of this document when possible.=20

Zach, Samita & Erik

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> To: zach@sensinode.com
> Cc: samita.chakrabarti@ericsson.com, nordmark@cisco.com
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-19.txt
>=20
>=20
> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-19.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Zach Shelby and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>=20
> Filename:	 draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd
> Revision:	 19
> Title:		 Neighbor Discovery Optimization for Low Power =
and Lossy Networks (6LoWPAN)
> Creation date:	 2012-07-16
> WG ID:		 6lowpan
> Number of pages: 59
> URL:             =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-19.txt
> Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd
> Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-19
> Diff:            =
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>=20
> Abstract:
>   The IETF 6LoWPAN work defines IPv6 over Low-power Wireless Personal
>   Area Networks such as IEEE 802.15.4.  This and other similar link
>   technologies have limited or no usage of multicast signaling due to
>   energy conservation.  In addition, the wireless network may not
>   strictly follow the traditional concept of IP subnets and IP links.
>   IPv6 Neighbor Discovery was not designed for non-transitive wireless
>   links, as its reliance on the traditional IPv6 link concept and its
>   heavy use of multicast make it inefficient and sometimes impractical
>   in a low-power and lossy network.  This document describes simple
>   optimizations to IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, its addressing mechanisms
>   and duplicate address detection for Low-power Wireless Personal Area
>   Networks and similar networks.  The document thus updates [RFC4944]
>   to specify the use of the optimizations defined here.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The IETF Secretariat

--=20
Zach Shelby, Chief Nerd, Sensinode Ltd.
http://www.sensinode.com
http://zachshelby.org  - My blog "On the Internet of Things"
http://6lowpan.net - My book "6LoWPAN: The Wireless Embedded Internet"
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